Most of these are universal on setup screen. Depending on the control module, in the settings you should nhave a few options for the throttle when PAS is equiped. On most, I believe its the c4 line in the settings screen. Setting that to lvl3 gives full throttle control. This overides the PAS no matter what PAS lvl you're on. That also keeps the trhottle accessible even when PAS lvlv is set to 0. This may work in your case. Hope it helps.
I'm glad you mentioned the throttle sensitivity compared to the PAS. I noticed the same thing with my throttle... that there was no easing into it. All or nothing, for the most part. I'll pick up this PAS for those moments when I want to truly dial in my speed, instead of just juicing/coasting with the throttle. Regarding your comment about how the PAS has somehow reduced the throttle sensitivity... I wonder if that has to do with the C1 setting? You now have it set to 3, which I believe is "standard" sensitivity for PAS. Values 0-2, I think, are higher sensitivities for PAS. C14 also influences PAS sensitivity (so many settings...) These settings could be influencing the throttle as well? Just a thought, not sure if its true. Also, putting your C7 at 1 will allow cruise control. While moving at the speed you want, hold the down arrow for about 3 seconds and a "CRUISE" will appear on the screen.
Hey Bill! Yup I changed up the settings so I believe it was C3 set to 0 that reduced throttle. I changed it to 8 and suddenly I had my full throttle power back on any PAS level. Good tip on the cruise control although I think I'd be too nervous to use that where I live. :)
I got into e-Longboard because of you and upgraded by Chinese Longboard. Now I'm buying a super 73 because of You! You're bad for my wallet, but great for my health. Was wondering if you'd be able to add pedal assist to the stock z1 or do you need to do the upgrade to the 48v battery and LCD screen? I'm not too worried about full speed as I only bike to run with my dog and only need to go 15 mph for him to keep up. Thanks for making all of these amazing tutorials for years.
Do you know the name of the stock Z1 thumb controller including the LED's? The rubber cap on the on off button fell off and im looking for that part lol! Thank you!
Hey Nick! I'm not 100% this site is legit but this seems to be in stock. A little pricey for what it is IMO. You might be able to DIY a rubber cap using Sugru www.paybanks.ga/ProductDetail.aspx?iid=23480018&pr=72.99
There is a PAS sensor on the European ZG but the connector is a 5 pin :( I have ordered the same PAS sensor for the new controller. Do you think it is easy to remove and swap the sensors ?
It might not be as easy as plug and play. You will most likely have to splice open that 5 pin and try to see which wires will match color wise. Unfortunately I've never done this before so I would only be guessing which colors to connect.
Yo Rick. Dino here.....what size Allen key wrench do I need to remove my pedal crank arms? ....i already bought the crank remover and bottom bracket remover. But need to know the size of the giant Allen key wrench I need to purchase?... The ev God.
I installed the same part yesterday. I'll definitely need some thread lock for the crank arm bolt. You were not kidding about putting that bolt on gently as a semi-snug fit will be too tight for the sensor and the sensor will not work. The bolt started to come off as I was riding because it's a fine line between tight and loose. Also worth noting that the stock crank is useless after 15mpp. I'm interested in your 46T crank so pedaling is useful at 20mph. Any brand you can recommend?
Hey Bill! Thanks for the update! So I pulled my 46T crankset from a leftover build - a single speed fixie converted to mid drive. But this looks to be very similar amzn.to/3ah6lkg
Best thing to do is to replace the bottom bracket. You need a 118 to 127. This is the length of the square bottom bracket arms. That will give you. Ore space for the PAS and your crank arms to fit properly. You def. Want those crank arms to be on nice and tight. A crank arm coming off while at speed will result in a very bad day.
@@RunPlayBack not sure….. it’s encased in aluminium….. see pic. I’ll just wire it in and see if it’ll take. Thanks for getting back though, really appreciate your work on your channel. Keep on trucking (or 73 ing) 👍
I don't think you can add it to the stock controller since it doesn't have a clear PAS input. You'll need to swap out the controller but you could just keep the battery stock.
@@RunPlayBack I had this question to, right now I don’t have any real need to upgrade the battery but I would like to get pedal assist, would I just need a controller and the pedal parts?
@@xJ3YQx yup that's correct and just make sure the connections will fit the stock motor connector and the stock throttle connector. You may also need an adapter for the battery.
how do you get to the menu? i was only able to get the the programming menu once, and that was by luck. but, damn the difference in speed is unreal. why did you choose wheel size 23" over 20"?
indabebe 23" seemed to be a more accurate representation of the fat tire for MPH. I believe its measuring standard bike tires which are thin. The Z1 tires are 20" but heavier than standard so rotation is slightly different.
@@RunPlayBack there you go. Now it makes sense. Thanks. Just completed the upgrade and it was worth it. Just wish it could go up to 30s much quicker. Maybe I gotta find a 1500w that will fit the rear
Hi, if you're asking about the Super73-Z1 bike, you will have to check with Super73 directly to see what their international shipping policies are. We're only familiar with Super73 having presence in the US (super73.com), and also in the EU (eu.super73.com). If you're outside these areas, you can also check with your local electric bike vendors/shops and see if they have imported or plan on importing them. Hope that helps!
Putting a PAS on your electric moped is just dumb, it's not a peddle bicycle and what your doing medium term will ruin your ligaments around your knees.
I just added pedal assist today, it's so much fun! Although my sensor doesn't go all the way to the crank.
Liking the camera angles… and your reactions ;)
Glad you like them!
As always, great content. I don’t love PAS myself, but fun to see how it feels with the 48v setup. Thanks.
Steve Flannery yup same here, at least with this controller you can turn it on and off very easily. And it's cheap enough to be worth the addition.
How do you turn it on / off on the controller rik, thanks
@@ggspec l
Most of these are universal on setup screen. Depending on the control module, in the settings you should nhave a few options for the throttle when PAS is equiped. On most, I believe its the c4 line in the settings screen. Setting that to lvl3 gives full throttle control. This overides the PAS no matter what PAS lvl you're on. That also keeps the trhottle accessible even when PAS lvlv is set to 0. This may work in your case. Hope it helps.
I got a ebike in pas 1 i get 2amps in pas 5 still 2amps Do you think the sensor has the problem what are the converter has a problem
I'm glad you mentioned the throttle sensitivity compared to the PAS. I noticed the same thing with my throttle... that there was no easing into it. All or nothing, for the most part. I'll pick up this PAS for those moments when I want to truly dial in my speed, instead of just juicing/coasting with the throttle.
Regarding your comment about how the PAS has somehow reduced the throttle sensitivity... I wonder if that has to do with the C1 setting? You now have it set to 3, which I believe is "standard" sensitivity for PAS. Values 0-2, I think, are higher sensitivities for PAS. C14 also influences PAS sensitivity (so many settings...) These settings could be influencing the throttle as well? Just a thought, not sure if its true.
Also, putting your C7 at 1 will allow cruise control. While moving at the speed you want, hold the down arrow for about 3 seconds and a "CRUISE" will appear on the screen.
Hey Bill! Yup I changed up the settings so I believe it was C3 set to 0 that reduced throttle. I changed it to 8 and suddenly I had my full throttle power back on any PAS level. Good tip on the cruise control although I think I'd be too nervous to use that where I live. :)
@@RunPlayBack My range results here: www.reddit.com/r/Super73/comments/i6ko28/z1_48v14ah_range_test_results/
I don’t have PAS installed but do you recommend c3 to “8” to have the best throttle response ?
Just ordered all the stuff for 48v and PAS
Nice! Lemme know how it goes and if you have any questions! Good luck!
I got into e-Longboard because of you and upgraded by Chinese Longboard. Now I'm buying a super 73 because of You! You're bad for my wallet, but great for my health. Was wondering if you'd be able to add pedal assist to the stock z1 or do you need to do the upgrade to the 48v battery and LCD screen? I'm not too worried about full speed as I only bike to run with my dog and only need to go 15 mph for him to keep up. Thanks for making all of these amazing tutorials for years.
I think crank arm on my z1 is superglued on cuz it won’t budge with the crank arm remover
Try hitting it with some WD-40...might be rusty
God mode! Lol that's awesome
haha yup! 👍
Thanks again man.
hey no problem! hope that was helpful for you!
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great video, where did you get that screen 🤯
thanks! This is the one I got - www.ebay.com/itm/Ebike-36-48V-250-350-500W-Electric-bike-9-Mosfet-Sine-Wave-Controller-display/153561958171
Do you know the name of the stock Z1 thumb controller including the LED's? The rubber cap on the on off button fell off and im looking for that part lol! Thank you!
Hey Nick! I'm not 100% this site is legit but this seems to be in stock. A little pricey for what it is IMO. You might be able to DIY a rubber cap using Sugru www.paybanks.ga/ProductDetail.aspx?iid=23480018&pr=72.99
@@RunPlayBack Fantastic! Thank you! Great idea about Sugru!
There is a PAS sensor on the European ZG but the connector is a 5 pin :(
I have ordered the same PAS sensor for the new controller. Do you think it is easy to remove and swap the sensors ?
It might not be as easy as plug and play. You will most likely have to splice open that 5 pin and try to see which wires will match color wise. Unfortunately I've never done this before so I would only be guessing which colors to connect.
Does the bigger the sprocket the 46 teeth you bought make the bike faster from the original one the bike came with
It does not. It just gives you a little more resistance when pedaling.
Do you know? Can I install 2 pas sensors for dual motors and controllers? How ?
What controller are you using...cause the original controller for Z1 doesn’t have a “line” for PAS?
/Bklyn👑
Hey Robert! So I listed all the parts for my 48v mod, including the controller in the description here: th-cam.com/video/o6SQyMFBmyc/w-d-xo.html
What was the settings on ur PAS?
Can you throttle map the 48v so it doesn't lift the front tire from a dead stop?
Unfortunately no :( Its pretty much set on high torque even if u adjust power settings.
How did you manage to go so fast? Just the updated controller and battery?
pinnxlao99 yup I did a whole video on it here: th-cam.com/video/o6SQyMFBmyc/w-d-xo.html
How you connected it to the battery ?
This is how: th-cam.com/video/o6SQyMFBmyc/w-d-xo.html
Yo Rick. Dino here.....what size Allen key wrench do I need to remove my pedal crank arms? ....i already bought the crank remover and bottom bracket remover. But need to know the size of the giant Allen key wrench I need to purchase?... The ev God.
Ment to say....thanks e.v. God.
Try this! amzn.to/3tJUxiO it has every wrench you'll ever need
@@RunPlayBack RIC one more thing. Did you need to use a crank puller on the z?
@@dinoscottgrindle5384 Yup!
Have you noticed more range with the peddle assist ?
Not so much, I suppose if I keep it at level 1 power but I usually have it up to 5, maximum power. I honestly prefer the throttle.
I installed the same part yesterday. I'll definitely need some thread lock for the crank arm bolt. You were not kidding about putting that bolt on gently as a semi-snug fit will be too tight for the sensor and the sensor will not work. The bolt started to come off as I was riding because it's a fine line between tight and loose.
Also worth noting that the stock crank is useless after 15mpp. I'm interested in your 46T crank so pedaling is useful at 20mph. Any brand you can recommend?
Hey Bill! Thanks for the update! So I pulled my 46T crankset from a leftover build - a single speed fixie converted to mid drive. But this looks to be very similar amzn.to/3ah6lkg
I have the same problem
@@evandrocarvalho7660 Yup try replacing the crankset, it definitely helps.
Best thing to do is to replace the bottom bracket. You need a 118 to 127. This is the length of the square bottom bracket arms. That will give you. Ore space for the PAS and your crank arms to fit properly. You def. Want those crank arms to be on nice and tight. A crank arm coming off while at speed will result in a very bad day.
I want to add pas sensor to z1 but my controller has higo 6 pin from controller……do I add sensor to that do you know? Thanks
What controller did you go with? Do you have a link? Can’t really provide a clear answer unless more information is provided.
@@RunPlayBack not sure….. it’s encased in aluminium….. see pic. I’ll just wire it in and see if it’ll take. Thanks for getting back though, really appreciate your work on your channel. Keep on trucking (or 73 ing) 👍
How did you get the trottle i cant get one with a trottle
PREMIUM KOEN I'm not sure I understand? I changed the controller and bought a new throttle.
can I add the pas without the 48v
I don't think you can add it to the stock controller since it doesn't have a clear PAS input. You'll need to swap out the controller but you could just keep the battery stock.
@@RunPlayBack I had this question to, right now I don’t have any real need to upgrade the battery but I would like to get pedal assist, would I just need a controller and the pedal parts?
@@xJ3YQx yup that's correct and just make sure the connections will fit the stock motor connector and the stock throttle connector. You may also need an adapter for the battery.
how do you get to the menu? i was only able to get the the programming menu once, and that was by luck. but, damn the difference in speed is unreal. why did you choose wheel size 23" over 20"?
indabebe you have to hold the top and bottom buttons for a few seconds after you power on. It only works once you power on.
indabebe 23" seemed to be a more accurate representation of the fat tire for MPH. I believe its measuring standard bike tires which are thin. The Z1 tires are 20" but heavier than standard so rotation is slightly different.
@@RunPlayBack there you go. Now it makes sense. Thanks. Just completed the upgrade and it was worth it. Just wish it could go up to 30s much quicker. Maybe I gotta find a 1500w that will fit the rear
How much and can it be sent abroad?
Hi, if you're asking about the Super73-Z1 bike, you will have to check with Super73 directly to see what their international shipping policies are. We're only familiar with Super73 having presence in the US (super73.com), and also in the EU (eu.super73.com). If you're outside these areas, you can also check with your local electric bike vendors/shops and see if they have imported or plan on importing them. Hope that helps!
So i can pit this on my stock z1?
No you'll need a new controller as well.
Did you hot glue the sensor to the frame?
Nope, so the those teeth on the sensor hook onto the teeth on the crank and locks it into place.
Putting a PAS on your electric moped is just dumb, it's not a peddle bicycle and what your doing medium term will ruin your ligaments around your knees.
Ok great comment.