I have a Z1 with about 50 miles on it. I'm 5'10, about 200lbs with my backpack and all my stuff. I can get about 10 miles of range on mine before I'm out of juice. My area is rather hilly, but not like San Francisco hilly. I can GPS log it at 20mph and it stays there til my dash light turns red. Really debating about this mod vs just upgrading to an RX or even a Sur Ron. The weight is fine and I can carry it up and down from my 3rd story apartment without any issues. Also, I equate pedalling to being a little harder than a BMX bike. I've heard of larger people riding the Z1 but I wouldn't recommend it and that's the main reason I'm debating about going for the RX or Sur Ron. Overall, stellar build and thanks.
I recently bought a z1 on their Black Friday deal. I ended up saving about $465 with the shipping paid for and an additional coupon $100off they on top of that I was never charged tax at checkout! That being said I bought this as a bike for my daughter that I could also use whenever needed. I’m 5’10” 225lbs and I’m actually surprised that it will get me up any hill much less a steep one. But to my surprise with some peddling it does a pretty fair job. I too run the “RIDE” app and to my surprise I’m getting around 17mpc! My daughter who 5’ 110lbs gets about 22mpc! We do pedal some but it’s mostly throttle riding. I think I may have been one of the fortunate ones to get a decent battery. With all that being said if I hadn’t gotten that deal I’d feel pretty ripped off! For $1500 you can get 3x the bike elsewhere. You might not get the coolness factor but most likely you will end up with a better bike in the end. I still bought the z1 because I knew I could upgrade this bike better than the zx for the same amount of money. Something interesting though is I also have a rad mini and the stock z1 is faster and somehow gets me up the hills easier??? Not sure how a 36v 500w motor is beating out the 48v 750w on the rad mini? Wondering if it has something to do with the pedal assist?
RunPlayBack oh yes, I think I’m going to ride with my current setup for a bit and then find a good time to do the upgrade. Getting around to getting fixing my brake lines and then also putting a 44T crank on it.
@@kevo212 Nice! I thew on this 46T crankset I had leftover from my fixie. Definitely feels better pedaling except anything over 25mph is pretty much pedaling air lol. But better than stock crank.
Mannnn I can’t wait to get my stuff. Just waiting on the throttle (September), battery (2-3 weeks), and controller (September). Luckily southern California has great weather
nice! I think sometimes we get used to Prime delivery that it feels weird to wait a month for something to arrive. I'm trying to get as much riding done now because Michigan winters are brutal.
@@RunPlayBack Are you going to make a video how you added the fog lights any the physical on off switch, I'd really like to do this mod cause it looks so good, your video on this mod is the main reason I'm getting the z1. Great work man keep it up.
@@SovereignOfEmbers yeah for sure I can do that..its pretty simple wiring...are you on the Super73 modders group FB? I posted a little video on how I wired it up.
That's sick. I think you said the links are on this page. So the controller, battery, and throttle with lcd? So does the throttle need to be replaced or is it part of the controller or battery?and would the pas have been easy to install since you had everything out already? Thx
Hey Johnny! Haha yeah it actually doesn't get too hot but I'm also in Michigan and as soon as November hits it will basically become a seat warmer. :) Cheers!
Thanks for doing all this, great work! At 10:35, your screen shows about 20 miles and 25% of battery remaining. Were those 20 miles done on one trip? If so, would you agree that maybe 20 miles of range is expected if you are going to ride the bike hard?
Hey Bill! That's a good question, honestly I can't remember as I've been doing that same route every day so all these rides start blending in. :) However, it could also be around the time I was testing power monitoring settings which may have been a little off. That's something I need to take a closer look on calibrating. A more accurate reading would be the voltage which is roughly 52v full charge and 40v cutoff. I wouldn't recommend riding until cutoff to increase longevity of the battery. Yeah my best guess is around 20 miles range riding it hard. Honestly, my days are pretty full I just haven't had the time or need to ride far enough and long enough for me to test that as I live right near downtown. I will try soon though!
Hey Rik great job on your videos I’m always impressed with your work! I have a quick question about the new controller you used??? Can it be used with the 36v stock battery? I’m only looking to upgrade the controller and add pedal assist for now. Will most likely add a 48v later. It’s my daughters bike and I don’t want it too fast for her until she gets really comfortable with it. Thnx for these great videos!
I've gotten 30mph top speed on flat ground. Hill climbing is not an issue with the torque. It's still best practice to use the pedals when climbing hills to avoid killing the motor.
Thanks, it was a fun build for sure! You should check out the video where I upgraded it to 72v! I sold it already, but IIRC at 48v, top speed was around 33mph for me.
I would check in the used marketplace. Also possible that someone can 3D print it. There are other ways to attach/mount the battery and controller to the frame. The housing makes it easier though.
This is fresh. Have you found anything similar for the S1? I’ve looked around but haven’t seen anyone swap about the 14maH stock battery with the 17.5 one.
@@RunPlayBack Thanks, I've been (for better or worse) diving into subreddits trying to find the info. The possibility of spending $400-$900 on a new battery scares me (and my wallet) a bit. Lol.
RunPlayBack both would be nice, though I don’t know the realities of the s1 motor enough of its capabilities. Range would be definitely be good. I live in an area with a lot of hills, so the range isn’t quite what it would be if I lived in like Chicago
RIC, me dino again. A question about your controler. In your description of it you just said 48 bolt 9 mosfet done wave controler, but I'm not clear if you mean it's a 36 v to 48 v controler ( which all ready comes in a z1), or if you're saying it's a 48v to 52v or 72 v. Please let me know...it can't just be a 48v, it's either 36v to 48v, 48v to ?., I need to know because I'm shopping around...thx buddy.
Yup its 36v to 48v..I put a link in the description of the exact controller I'm referencing. If you take a look at that, you should be able to find something similar.
I believe you can. Try joining the Super73 Mod and Custom Builds group on Facebook. There's a few ZG owners there who have been swapping out their batteries and controllers.
I hope you reply: ive purchased over 20 of these bikes and I personally have broke 2 of them by charging them after they got wet snd shorting a controller on one and the battery on an other.. i realized doing this upgrade will be the best solution. I dont think the link to the battery works tho. This also is an old video... is there a different solution?
The upgrade process is pretty much the same but in terms of batteries, there's US vendors that have more quality battery cells than purchasing on ebay. Check out ChiBatterySystems or LiteSpeedBikes.
@@RunPlayBack Im sorry, could you link me to a source for where to get the 48V upgraded battery? Ive purchased two that I thought where 48v and arent... and just having the hardest time finding the bigger battery.
Glenn Ecalne so its pretty simple, you just plug it in between the battery and controller. If you ordered the XT60 connectors it should all be plug and play. If your controller or battery aren't XT60, you'll need an adapter.
I have the same controller wired everything the same but the 2 green hall sensor wire I notice had to be tied in with the 2 big wires in order to work properly. So it works fine but I notice lack of power going up hill and it’s shakes bad while throttling from complete stop any ideas?
@@RunPlayBack Mines is 36v all around so if upgrade the battery to 48v without the controller it should work right along as I have a battery 20ah. It should go faster 2 right
I really want to do this mod but with out the display and removing the charging port and on button. Basically keep it stock just add more power. Is there a way I can do this?
@@RunPlayBack the other tutorial with the display can it be don’t like that on the ZX? I’m just curious because I recently just got one and want to do some modifications to it. 😬
@@ThomasCrovvn Hmmm I can't say 100% for sure that it wouldn't work but there's a lot of wires on there that I'm not really sure what they do. It's also rated at 1000w which could blow the stock motor since its 500w. Did you see the controller one that I linked in the upgrade video? That's the only one I could say for sure will work since I've put so many miles on it.
At the time, we got it off eBay, depends on which seller you get it from and what capacity, can range from ~250 to 500 usd. The only problem is that the QA for these cheaper li-on batteries can be hit or miss. If you can afford it, we would recommend going with a reputable battery vendor, for quality cells and BMS, along with a backing warranty. GL!
I have 48 hub motor 1,000 ebike kit DIY with 52 13 ah voltage ebike battery its even more faster and more miles but I have 72 volt ebike battery can go gone dangerous or crazy stpuid fast for sure more miles
@@chrisMc1972 not really...you could probably find more powerful hub motors that would fit the dropouts. The issue is pushing 48v into it. You'll probably get lower battery life and more voltage sag. 500 or 750w seems like the right size for this build.
@@mattrussell8958 That's fair. Those parts came in after the first video so it was more of an overview than a complete install. But for the solid state switch you basically just connect it between the controller and battery - super simple. The lighting is using a 12v step down and I'm using a Y splitter from the solid state into the step down and I just run positive/negative connections into the lights.
Good job on the Z1 build and thank you for the tutorials. Channel is dope man.
Thanks Jessie! Happy to help!
I have a Z1 with about 50 miles on it. I'm 5'10, about 200lbs with my backpack and all my stuff. I can get about 10 miles of range on mine before I'm out of juice. My area is rather hilly, but not like San Francisco hilly. I can GPS log it at 20mph and it stays there til my dash light turns red. Really debating about this mod vs just upgrading to an RX or even a Sur Ron. The weight is fine and I can carry it up and down from my 3rd story apartment without any issues. Also, I equate pedalling to being a little harder than a BMX bike. I've heard of larger people riding the Z1 but I wouldn't recommend it and that's the main reason I'm debating about going for the RX or Sur Ron. Overall, stellar build and thanks.
I recently bought a z1 on their Black Friday deal. I ended up saving about $465 with the shipping paid for and an additional coupon $100off they on top of that I was never charged tax at checkout! That being said I bought this as a bike for my daughter that I could also use whenever needed. I’m 5’10” 225lbs and I’m actually surprised that it will get me up any hill much less a steep one. But to my surprise with some peddling it does a pretty fair job. I too run the “RIDE” app and to my surprise I’m getting around 17mpc! My daughter who 5’ 110lbs gets about 22mpc! We do pedal some but it’s mostly throttle riding. I think I may have been one of the fortunate ones to get a decent battery. With all that being said if I hadn’t gotten that deal I’d feel pretty ripped off! For $1500 you can get 3x the bike elsewhere. You might not get the coolness factor but most likely you will end up with a better bike in the end. I still bought the z1 because I knew I could upgrade this bike better than the zx for the same amount of money. Something interesting though is I also have a rad mini and the stock z1 is faster and somehow gets me up the hills easier??? Not sure how a 36v 500w motor is beating out the 48v 750w on the rad mini? Wondering if it has something to do with the pedal assist?
Such a sweet mod Rik, thanks for the review and cool vid. keep up the good work!
Hey thanks Kevin! Still thinking of doing this mod? Definitely could helpful with climbing hills around you.
RunPlayBack oh yes, I think I’m going to ride with my current setup for a bit and then find a good time to do the upgrade. Getting around to getting fixing my brake lines and then also putting a 44T crank on it.
@@kevo212 Nice! I thew on this 46T crankset I had leftover from my fixie. Definitely feels better pedaling except anything over 25mph is pretty much pedaling air lol. But better than stock crank.
This helped so much thank you! I’m about to mod my bike just need to order the parta
No problem 👍
Mannnn I can’t wait to get my stuff. Just waiting on the throttle (September), battery (2-3 weeks), and controller (September). Luckily southern California has great weather
nice! I think sometimes we get used to Prime delivery that it feels weird to wait a month for something to arrive. I'm trying to get as much riding done now because Michigan winters are brutal.
Man, any other place where we can score this? The seller is too long for me to wait
indabebe my controller comes in a couple of days, way earlier than expected. Just gotta wait for that damn battery now!!
Good for you man, im jealous. I didnt even get a tracking number and I ordered it as soon as this video came out
@@therandomvlogs it's worth the wait! :) are you doing all 3 kits by yourself?
Thanks for doing a video on this mod now I'll go for the z1
no problem, I'm happy to help!
@@RunPlayBack Are you going to make a video how you added the fog lights any the physical on off switch, I'd really like to do this mod cause it looks so good, your video on this mod is the main reason I'm getting the z1. Great work man keep it up.
@@SovereignOfEmbers yeah for sure I can do that..its pretty simple wiring...are you on the Super73 modders group FB? I posted a little video on how I wired it up.
@@RunPlayBack No , I will be once I get a z1
Love your videos ❤️.. I’m wondering where can I get that helmet ? Or what model/brand is? Thanks !!
It's the Ruroc RG-1 DX
Maybe sometime in the next week or so, do a full charge to dead battery to get a solid range number if you were averaging 20-25mph
Yup I just need to find the route nearby.
That's sick. I think you said the links are on this page. So the controller, battery, and throttle with lcd? So does the throttle need to be replaced or is it part of the controller or battery?and would the pas have been easy to install since you had everything out already? Thx
Yup the throttle is easier to replace then trying to splice it with the stock one. Yeah the PAS is easy to install just gotta plug it in.
So you basically sitting on the battery. Well you won't be freezing your butt I guess :) Great video!
Hey Johnny! Haha yeah it actually doesn't get too hot but I'm also in Michigan and as soon as November hits it will basically become a seat warmer. :) Cheers!
Hey was curious if you had a link to the switch that you used for the headlights and fog lights?
Thanks for doing all this, great work!
At 10:35, your screen shows about 20 miles and 25% of battery remaining. Were those 20 miles done on one trip? If so, would you agree that maybe 20 miles of range is expected if you are going to ride the bike hard?
Hey Bill! That's a good question, honestly I can't remember as I've been doing that same route every day so all these rides start blending in. :) However, it could also be around the time I was testing power monitoring settings which may have been a little off. That's something I need to take a closer look on calibrating. A more accurate reading would be the voltage which is roughly 52v full charge and 40v cutoff. I wouldn't recommend riding until cutoff to increase longevity of the battery. Yeah my best guess is around 20 miles range riding it hard. Honestly, my days are pretty full I just haven't had the time or need to ride far enough and long enough for me to test that as I live right near downtown. I will try soon though!
Is this the best route for the Z1 when the controller goes out? This will be the third controller and I’m looking to do this right.
Hey Rik great job on your videos I’m always impressed with your work! I have a quick question about the new controller you used??? Can it be used with the 36v stock battery? I’m only looking to upgrade the controller and add pedal assist for now. Will most likely add a 48v later. It’s my daughters bike and I don’t want it too fast for her until she gets really comfortable with it. Thnx for these great videos!
Any time! Yes the controller can be used with the stock 36v battery and will take 48v if you decide to upgrade it later.
@@RunPlayBack thnx man that really helps! Always looking forward for your new videos, keep up the great work!
@@dankehrig3419 any time!
Thank you for your great videos! Can you please tell how many miles in the average you get out of these battery pack 48 Volt, 20'000 mAh? Thanks!
Thanks! I'd say it's similar to the stock range..maybe around 20 miles depending on weight and terrain.
Love the video. Thanks. Whats the top speed on flat ground and hill climbing ability?
I've gotten 30mph top speed on flat ground. Hill climbing is not an issue with the torque. It's still best practice to use the pedals when climbing hills to avoid killing the motor.
I thought you didn't have pedal assist?
@@bryangarfinkle5097 I had it and then removed it. By using the pedals to climb, I mean like just manual leg power to help the motor.
Awesome build! so what’s your top speed full battery on flats ?
Thanks, it was a fun build for sure! You should check out the video where I upgraded it to 72v! I sold it already, but IIRC at 48v, top speed was around 33mph for me.
Good morning I made the usual modification on my zg with 36w battery 36 control unit, how can I set the LCD parameters?
Do you know where I can find the housing under the seat that the battery and controller sit in?
I would check in the used marketplace. Also possible that someone can 3D print it. There are other ways to attach/mount the battery and controller to the frame. The housing makes it easier though.
This is fresh. Have you found anything similar for the S1? I’ve looked around but haven’t seen anyone swap about the 14maH stock battery with the 17.5 one.
I've seen some people talking about it, I'm sure it's possible. I just haven't seen anything documented on it.
@@RunPlayBack Thanks, I've been (for better or worse) diving into subreddits trying to find the info. The possibility of spending $400-$900 on a new battery scares me (and my wallet) a bit. Lol.
@@RyanFreshhh Yea I hear you, are you looking for more range or more power?
RunPlayBack both would be nice, though I don’t know the realities of the s1 motor enough of its capabilities. Range would be definitely be good. I live in an area with a lot of hills, so the range isn’t quite what it would be if I lived in like Chicago
RIC, me dino again. A question about your controler. In your description of it you just said 48 bolt 9 mosfet done wave controler, but I'm not clear if you mean it's a 36 v to 48 v controler ( which all ready comes in a z1), or if you're saying it's a 48v to 52v or 72 v. Please let me know...it can't just be a 48v, it's either 36v to 48v, 48v to ?., I need to know because I'm shopping around...thx buddy.
Yup its 36v to 48v..I put a link in the description of the exact controller I'm referencing. If you take a look at that, you should be able to find something similar.
Can you do these mods on the european version? I want to increase the range when i get mine.
I believe you can. Try joining the Super73 Mod and Custom Builds group on Facebook. There's a few ZG owners there who have been swapping out their batteries and controllers.
Need somebody in so cal to do this for me ASAP!!!!
awesome upgrade where can i get the upgraded battery?
Thanks! All the part links are in the description.
Love the video can you do this to the original old z1 S1 edition?
Hi, this WAS performed on the original Z1.
@@RunPlayBack 🫡
I did this mod and at a dead stop, why is it when I quarter throttle it’s fine, but at full throttle it cuts out?
I hope you reply: ive purchased over 20 of these bikes and I personally have broke 2 of them by charging them after they got wet snd shorting a controller on one and the battery on an other.. i realized doing this upgrade will be the best solution. I dont think the link to the battery works tho. This also is an old video... is there a different solution?
The upgrade process is pretty much the same but in terms of batteries, there's US vendors that have more quality battery cells than purchasing on ebay. Check out ChiBatterySystems or LiteSpeedBikes.
@@RunPlayBack Im sorry, could you link me to a source for where to get the 48V upgraded battery? Ive purchased two that I thought where 48v and arent... and just having the hardest time finding the bigger battery.
@@RunPlayBack would really appreciate it
does all that fit under the stock seat?
he did some fabrication to the seat housing but it fit the bigger battery and controller
Yup it all fits, my main goal was not to add anything on the inner frame and retain the minimal look as much as possible.
I'm thinking about doing the Luna Cycle Solid State Switch, but don't know where to start. Do you have a diagram of some sort?
Glenn Ecalne so its pretty simple, you just plug it in between the battery and controller. If you ordered the XT60 connectors it should all be plug and play. If your controller or battery aren't XT60, you'll need an adapter.
Thank you, Rik.
@@glennecalne3977 no problem, good luck!
I have the same controller wired everything the same but the 2 green hall sensor wire I notice had to be tied in with the 2 big wires in order to work properly. So it works fine but I notice lack of power going up hill and it’s shakes bad while throttling from complete stop any ideas?
That sounds like something wrong with the hall sensors or how you connected them.
What helmet is that
Ruroc RG-1 DX
I have a z1 can I just upgrade a 48v battery and keep the same controller the or it won't work.
It depends. If you just upgrade the amp hours it'll work. If you go any higher than 48v it'll burn out the controller.
@@RunPlayBack Mines is 36v all around so if upgrade the battery to 48v without the controller it should work right along as I have a battery 20ah. It should go faster 2 right
jelly, can you do any upgrades on an S2? ^^
Oh yeah you can do something similar, I just don't have an S2 to try it on.
I really want to do this mod but with out the display and removing the charging port and on button. Basically keep it stock just add more power. Is there a way I can do this?
Unfortunately the only way to add more power is by changing the controller and the battery.
Would these modifications work on the ZX? 🧐
I believe the ZX is already at 48v.
@@RunPlayBack the other tutorial with the display can it be don’t like that on the ZX? I’m just curious because I recently just got one and want to do some modifications to it. 😬
hey, all the battery links are dead! looking for a 48v that will fit in the seat, anybody able to recommend ?
Is that a different seat then the stock one ?
Yup! Here's the video I made about the seat mod th-cam.com/video/H7MU6vRw8iE/w-d-xo.html
your helmet looks great. what is it
Ruroc RG1-DX
hey! i followed your tutorial and for some reason the 0 speed doesnt turn the motor and the top speed is only 20 mph.
0 speed won't engage the motor, only 1-5. Try turning it up to 5 to get past 20mph.
@@RunPlayBack thank you will do!
Is this with stock motor ?
yup
Do you have an xt60 splitter from the solid state switch to the controller and to the lights?
Yup that's right. I made my own but it looks something like this: amzn.to/3lKdK14
@@RunPlayBack nice move!
Do you have a 48v to 12v step down in there somewhere also? Or is that built in to the lights you bought?
@@JayChilli Yup I have a 48v to 12v step down that go to the lights.
Nice btw picked up those tires .... they ride even better than expected! Thanks again for the review!
Fixing to upgrade my z1 with a 750 watt Bafang motor just waiting on the battery
Hell yeah! That will definitely get you some serious torque! 👍
What controller do you have?
In this video it was just a generic eBay controller
Is stock motor ?
yup!
@@RunPlayBack Its not a 250w only motor ?
How much Max V upgrade one motor ?
Hey bro do you have a link to those fenders
Yup! super73.com/collections/accessories/products/super-73-s-series-fender-set?ref=runplayback
RunPlayBack thank you bro
Love your Z1 btw, one of the best I’ve seen👏
@@ThomasCrovvn thanks man much appreciated :)
By any chance do you know if this will work for your Z1 upgrade.
www.amazon.com/dp/B07T84RYBV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_2WasFbCDDR1PW
@@ThomasCrovvn Hmmm I can't say 100% for sure that it wouldn't work but there's a lot of wires on there that I'm not really sure what they do. It's also rated at 1000w which could blow the stock motor since its 500w. Did you see the controller one that I linked in the upgrade video? That's the only one I could say for sure will work since I've put so many miles on it.
How much was the battery?
At the time, we got it off eBay, depends on which seller you get it from and what capacity, can range from ~250 to 500 usd. The only problem is that the QA for these cheaper li-on batteries can be hit or miss. If you can afford it, we would recommend going with a reputable battery vendor, for quality cells and BMS, along with a backing warranty. GL!
I have 48 hub motor 1,000 ebike kit DIY with 52 13 ah voltage ebike battery its even more faster and more miles but I have 72 volt ebike battery can go gone dangerous or crazy stpuid fast for sure more miles
Why the P5 setting is 0 ?
I think it's the battery level damping setting. Like a way to calibrate your battery voltage display. It seemed to work fine at 0 for my battery.
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Would it be alot of trouble to install a larger Hub motor?
@@chrisMc1972 not really...you could probably find more powerful hub motors that would fit the dropouts. The issue is pushing 48v into it. You'll probably get lower battery life and more voltage sag. 500 or 750w seems like the right size for this build.
Can you build my bike I’ll pay you haha
U say to add all this extra stuff after the tutorial video without showing people how do add the extra things in, pretty lame
I appreciate your feedback! Now give me an example of all this extra stuff that you need help with.
@@RunPlayBackfor example how about adding in the solid state power switch
@@RunPlayBack along with the circuitry
@@RunPlayBack also the running lights
@@mattrussell8958 That's fair. Those parts came in after the first video so it was more of an overview than a complete install. But for the solid state switch you basically just connect it between the controller and battery - super simple. The lighting is using a 12v step down and I'm using a Y splitter from the solid state into the step down and I just run positive/negative connections into the lights.
That’s a s2