Why Proposing Tip Jars For Mainstream Videogames Is Either Stupid Or Malicious (The Jimquisition)
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Former Blizzard president Mike Ybarra thinks big budget games should offer players the ability to add a tip on top of already spending $70. For a number of reasons it's dumb to add tipping to big corporate games, but when it's been suggested by a literal corporate leader, the whole proposal seems more sinister than stupid. - เกม
Whoa now, he's right. Blizzard didn't nickel and dime people.
They took way more than that. Dollared and Pounded them.
Dollar and pounded you, and didn't even have the common courtesy to let you finish so you'd have to come back for another chance
Pounding them
And pounding them
Pounding them
POUNDING THEM
I didn't realize Blizzard were pounding people in the UK. Suddenly America don't seem so bad
@@Vesperitis doin' the lords work.
@@AuxCableCheck Pretty sure they pound people everywhere, but, to be fair, mostly their employees.
I was convinced buying cosmetics *was* the tips, are you telling me that their $20 skins are not selling enough???
If you want all of the money, there is not enough money to be had.
There are very few, maybe two, games that I like enough and feel would die if the overlords felt it wasn't being profitable enough that I will toss some money for premium currency to spend on cosmetics and other crap. Not because I SUPER NEED that new hat, but because I like the game and would prefer it not be suddenly disappeared.
@@thinman25 they will kill it anyways. That is the doom of the rental model.
@@thinman25 unless you occasionally give them all the money in the world, your live service isn't safe.
see but you have to pay someone to make the skin. with tips you dont have to pay anyone else
*Tip culture:* You pay more when you can least afford to do so, because corpos won't despite being the most able to.
If I had a nickel for every time I ran into a commenter I recognize from PlayFrame on another channel, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it makes me smile it happened twice (and is still more than I'm willing to "tip" game publishers).
@@Ahrpigi lol Hi to you too
I'm also a fixture on leftist YT and prone to cringe thirst comments too but at least I'm self aware haha
The corpos are most able to exactly because they don't.
Or, or, stop tipping and letting them get away with it. Let the staff revolt
And tricking the workers into thinking it's a good thing because the money they make on shitty wages + tips is more than the money they would make on slightly less shitty (minimum) wage alone. Despite the fact that, you know, they should have both minimum wage (preferably more) and tips.
WHY NOT MAKE A TIP TO HELP OUR DEVELOPERS MAKE ENDS MEET, snivels man in charge of paying those exact developers.
But if he pays his developers properly, he might not be able to buy another diamond studded swimming pool, and we can't have that.
Protip: when a corporate executive tries to push an idea, be suspicious and afraid. Be VERY suspicious and afraid.
But mostly angry.
You're both on point.
No, I'm angry and insulted...
Just reject it.
@@arx3516 I’d rather reject it too.
“Because some games are just that special” Then just fucking make those special games
Most of the games he described as being that special are games I wouldn't buy for $10 on sale, let alone pay $70 for and then tip during credits for.
So then you would tip for the games you do love, or not at all cause it would be optional. Can no one think sensibly anymore ?
@@trentonemy4241I feel that the thing that stings people so much is the sheer audacity. These companies are really not in the risk of bankruptcy (unlike their employees). It's analogous to Bill Gates himself asking for tips in Windows pop-ups. It's not a matter of whether you're forced or not, it's how one could put it: "not a good look chief".
Sure it's optional and no one who hates this idea will give corporations any tips, but you can still mock the comically astronomical levels of greed these specimens manifest without any drop of shame. And I will mock them and I will laugh at them, because pretending it's not ridiculous is being an even worse clown. It's not like it's gonna affect their hoarded treasury anyway, so they really don't need your defending.
@@trentonemy4241think for one second about how a tip would mechanically work in this scenario. when a server at a bar hands you a drink, you are able to take a cash dollar out of your pocket and hand it to the person themself. how does that translate to a video game developer? does activision just list a kofi link or equivalent for every single game developer, that it very obviously doesn't care about on a human level (see: layoffs)? if they did that, they would also have to catalog a portfolio of what actual work each person or team did to create the finished game - which would be a lovely thing for the devs as it would serve as concrete resume material, but again, do you expect actiblizz to foster this? if they didn't - and they _wouldn't_ - then you would have no distinction of who, exactly, is getting your money. it would be one "donate" button speaking for tens, hundreds or thousands of people. what you would figuratively be doing is reaching your arm past the server at the bar and inserting your extra money directly into the register.
if you really love a game so much, there is a very simple and easy way to show that, and it has existed since video games were only a concept in the minds of creators: just buy another copy and gift it to someone.
And don't then lay off the people who actually made those special games so you can squeeze a few extra bucks out of a quarterly earnings report.
Can we have the reverse of a tip jar? A swear jar for every time a company lies in its marketing, media or pricing. If the company deceives you to get the sale, the have to pay a penalty.
Fines. You’re talking about fines
How 'bout every time the company lies in its marketing or proposes a "Road Map" 🙄 or has to deliver a First Day Patch to make the game even work, the price goes down by 5 bucks.
"Micro"transactions? 20 bucks less.
we have a swear jar already. its called Laws. now how do you plan to sue them while they drag it out in court on purpose?
@@gooberplexyeah.ut then the money lines the pockets of politicians who are just worse CEOs
Those are called fines, and have also been lobbied to have a cap on how much you can fine a company so that once you make a certain amount of profit from an illegal venture, the fine is simply a "cost of business"
Seriously though, when I first heard this I was 100% convinced it was an attempt to pay devs even less
makes perfect sense, given how america treats service employees and tips. It's not really like that in most of the rest of the world.
That's EXACTLY what it is. Less money will go into the pockets of Game Makers, as there will be less to go around. Already we see it with $70 games, because that means we have less money to buy more games.
Same logic as most aggressive tip culture pushing, I expect. Minimum wage doesn't mean as much when you can claim every employee position under you is "tip-supported".
It could be, tipped workers are exempt from the minimum wage in the US.
I wouldn't bet against it in a million years. it will ALWAYS be an attempt to shell out as little as possible while making as much as possible
Tipping is a holdover from slavery, its a way for employers to get out of paying employees. Fitting the American principle of finding low cost labor.
Yep
America Runs On Slavery
Which is why tipping culture was focused on service jobs that relate to household work (restaurant servers, hotel room cleaners, etc.): because those were the jobs recently freed slaves already had job skills for, and therefore those were the jobs they were primarily able to get. Allowing tipped workers to be paid a lower minimum wage was a continuation of the slavery that had just been outlawed.
Was about to make this same comment.
Didn't it also grow in the depression as a way to keep businesses afloat in the US but owners kept it because they realize it helped them not have to pay their workers a good wage and forced the problme onto the actual customer?
I suppose tips being a by product of either slavery, supressing starving workers or both doesn't really the image of tipping either way.
It's shit regardless.
I saw an article talking about this, and I just about had a stroke. $70 + tip? For the broken and buggy garbage they ship these days? AND the ceaseless onslaught of mtx stuffed into every conceivable crevice? It has to be some kind of a bad joke.
I think we fell into an alternate dimension around 2015. A much worse dimension, where everything gets dumber and dumber as time goes by, and nobody can seem to stop it.
And none of the money would be going to the devs.
The first three As are included in the base price of the game. You want A*4 games? Pay up buckaroo
No, you wouldn’t tip some buggy garbage. Duh ?
"Ah, but you see, the devs would be more inclined to not mess up their job if their pay depended on how much they get tipped", a billionaire CEO, probably.
AAA company just laid off 100 people.
“Tip the developers!”
Helping financially support the PEOPLE making a video game if I could? 100%. Donating money to money eating/spewing corporations and dragon hording CEOs? Absolutely no.
You shouldn't need to because buying the product SHOULD support those people because they should be being paid a fair wage in the first place though, innit.
This is why piracy is okay
Helping financially support the PEOPLE making a video game if I could? Absolutely no. Donating money to money eating/spewing corporations and dragon hording CEOs? Absolutely no.
Why is it our responsibility to financially support the people making a video game? It is their employer's responsibility to financially support their employees, not ours.
Come on now, Dragons aren't as bad as Executives. #not all dragons
Interestingly, a lot of the indie devs (the ones who would benefit the most from this) already have some sort of Patreon, buymecoffee or whatever donation gimmick going on. A billion dollar company exec proposing this means that the actual purpose of the idea is to cut their workers' wages and you cannot convince me otherwise
If you play a game, and "love it so much you could give the company more money" you can! Just buy a copy for a friend as a present.
And make it an indie or at least small/mid-tier publisher title while you're at it. Support and encourage the people who are not part of the problem! (And also those games have at least some chance to actually be fun, interesting or creative)
The idea of a AAA game company putting a tipping MTX function in their games is like Disney announcing that they’ve started a Patreon
Perfectly put. The best comment here
Freaking accurate!
They want to enable tips because they can both adjust the percentage they give to their developers but also use the existence of tips as a justification for a lower guaranteed salary. When the average person continues to get squeezed financially the tips will be the first thing people will stop contributing to, allowing experiments in raising prices to damage the workers before the executive/shareholder take home is affected. It’s just another attempt externalize risk, this time from the corporation to the workers.
yep. they ran out of ways to grow, so the next way is to literally steal even more money out of the pockets of the devs. I am almost impressed
I don’t think you understand what tipping means in this context. Your tip would not go directly to employees so no this would not be relevant to employee wages at all. It would be a sign of appreciation for developers who do an amazing job with their games and don’t flood them with micro transactions.
@@trentonemy4241 absolutely not. on paper it would be explained the way you think it works but in practice it would go exactly the way tipping goes in food-service(aka the way op explained it).
@@technopoptart no the tip would go to the company, not distributed to employees. No where in his quote does he say this should go direct to employees, that would be kind of impossible to implement. This is a feature of good will to the company who made the choice to make a real game, absent of horrendous micro transitions. I would have love to tip a few big games, and a ton of indies.
@@trentonemy4241 what you are not getting is everyone understands the employees are never going to see a single penny of any "tip". this will not matter, there will still be room for employers to _say_ the employees are getting the tip and then make rules and standards that account for employees getting tips and their pay being adjusted so that employees are still getting the legal minimum pay but now the "tip" will be considered part of the pay in a legal sense even if in a practical sense they don't get to see any "tip" money at all. it is a scam to make it so gamers are paying part of the dev team's salary(something they do NOT do currently outside of independent/personal projects)
when i was a teenager i lived in the us and food-service workers could be paid as little as 3.25usd per hour(even though the legal lowest pay you could give a worker was at the time 7.25) because they were "compensated" in tips. the trick was that all tips collected during the week were put in a pool and the pool was distributed among the servers and the boss only had to pay the difference between tips+reduced pay and what the law required them to pay the servers. if the servers did well in tips then the owner only had to pay them 3.25 an hour, if they didn't make enough to cover the differences the servers got fired because they cost the owner "extra" money.
So we have battle passes, MTX, DLC, a $10 price hike, and now tipping?
Eat shit, Ybarra, Wilson, and Yves-French Guy.
And you won't own your games either, if Ubi-shite have their say about it.
@@CharlieTheSupersaurus We already don't own them sadly, but hopefully Accursed Farms can lead the fight back on that one
MTX?
@@xxlepusxx MTX = Microtransactions
@@xxlepusxx MTX = Microtransactions.
Tipping is a ridiculous concept even in the industries where it's still customary/required. Adding it to another industry is pants-on-head stupid regardless of other factors.
couldn't agree more.
I love walking into a store, collecting all my own items from the shelves, checking them out myself at a self-checkout kiosk because none of the non-self lines are staffed, and then having said self-checkout kiosk ask me for a tip. Tip *_WHO?!_* I did all of the work. Instead of asking me for a tip I should be allowed to input a number for how long I worked in their store and they should pay me.
@@mjc0961That's actually a thing? WTF.
So, I have a general policy against paying full price for ‘almost’ every game. If you wait a minute, and your backlog looks like you need infinity stones to get through it…well, there is no point in paying full price. That said, I paid full price for ‘Unicorn Overlord’ and have like 150 hours in, and am about half done with the campaign. It jumped to the top of my backlog, I was excited, and I wanted to support Vanillaware since 13 sentinels was one of my favorite games a few years back. I think that’s fine, me buying a game at full price IS me tipping…or a rough equivalent imho. There are 1,000’s and thousands of games out there to get
"Full price is tipping" is a good way to think about it.
@@jamesrule1338yeah, I think so. Paying full price is the most sincere form of flattery I am willing to give any game
What is it about large companies that think people want to constantly give them money for no reason?
Entitlement!
Because they know how much we're already overpaying them, and more just seems reasonable at that point.
Oh, they don't *think* people want to constantly give them money.
They *need* people to constantly give money. Or else, the line won't go up as much as it did last year, and that will scare the greedy investors.
They don't necessarily think that, they just keep throwing new ideas for ways they can be given money for no reason at the wall to see if any stick. Occasionally, some do. More often, people don't accept paying for nothing, but having pushed the envelope companies can then scale back the idea and offer something trivial that people are then okay with paying for because it seems reasonable next to paying for nothing. They feel entitled to our money, so they keep throwing out new ideas to get it.
The same large companies that have a customer base that gives them money for no reason.
These "tips" would, just like they have in the real world, swiftly mutate from "optional" "voluntary", to mandatory and expected.
Also there'd be a ton of guilt tripping on Twitter and places about how gamers are terrible people for refusing to tip the poor devs who aren't paid by their own damn company.
A little tweak and it would become tip to win.
The existence of tipping will drive dev salaries down as it has with most tipping industries.
I mean. there HAVE been games where when I finished them I thought "I wish I could give these guys some more money", but it's never been a game that cost $60+ and it's NEVER been a fucking game by blizzard. I guess MAAYBE lost Vikings back in the day but I bought that for a fiver from a yard sale or whatever. so blizz never saw penny one from me on that anyway.
The people who made rdr2... specifically the people, not the executives, or the people who overworked the people who made rdr2, which still makes the tipping idea redundant, because that money is going straight into some exec's pocket.
And if you like a studio that much, then just buy another game from them
""I wish I could give these guys some more money""
and lo and behold, unless you are a complete idiot, you could indeed have done just that. NOTHING IS STOPPING YOU FROM DONATING CASH TO ANY STUDIO YOU WANT. so either you are dumb, or lying that you wanted to actually give that studio some extra cash. choose.
@@andrecarpenter2432I'd like to but a lot of games I want to give more money to have no dlc and that's their only game. I suppose I could buy it for other people though
@@TheSteelKeeper that's the ticket, gift it to your friends if you love it. it's honestly the best way to both support them financially and help spread the word. I buy Kind Words and Unpacking for everyone I know who might need that kind of positivity in their lives. it adds up
And you just know Ybarra doesn't actually tip service workers
I imagine he's more the type that complains about the service nonstop, even when nothing is wrong, and then tips a penny before leaving.
While we're at it, can we just do away with the concept of tipping entirely?
It's refreshingly absent here in NZ, though transplanted Americans seem to constantly keep pushing the idea. Thankfully, nobody is listening to them. yet.
not as long as our society still stupidly believes it isn't a huge scam -- corpos depend on the average Joe not realizing how tipping is just another way employers have found to screw us out of a living wage, and that same average Joe will insist upon things staying the same because he doesn't know any better
Careful, you may activate the monkey's paw and leave red states to charge service workers just the $2.14 an hour without additional compensation or benefits, making it easier to exploit them.
Tip is an excuse to pay workers less.😅
No because these type of tips would not go direct to developers obviously. So it would have no impact on salary.
@@trentonemy4241unless a game getting less tips is considered a failure if the devs, and so they get paid less…
There have been times when I've played a 10 euro game and thought "wow, they should have sold it for 20". I've never played a 60 euro game and thought it should have cost 80.
There's exactly one game I've spent that much on, and in hindsight it was rather foolhardy. There are plenty I've bought twice or bought after seeing someone else's playthrough, though.
I used to buy games at the 60-euro price point and think it was normal, if not particularly agreeable. These days, very few games feel worth that much, to me. Elden Ring, Persona 5, maybe a few others. It's generally better to play the cheap, interesting games made by smaller teams or solo devs, though, I find; for one, it's less of a loss if the game isn't so good. It also lets you try more things for the same price. And there's a chance of brilliance not normally present in mainstream gaming products...
I'm disturbed by the amount of tip jars or requests I see popping up. There is a liquor store near me with tip jars for their cashiers...who just do cashier stuff. Just pay them more if you think they deserve it ffs!
but, but, if they do that their second house is never gonna get paid off and they might have to move back retirement from 35 to 37! won't you be reasonable and think of the bosses?
Imagine Blizzard suggesting that they don't nickel and dime you to begin with XD
games industry leaders should tip us for putting up with their bullshit this long.
They aren't just going to tip you, they'll go balls deep on you... with a cactus.
There are already myriad ways in which gamers show appreciation for great games. Helping other players in game, maintaining wikis, sharing memes, streaming, and lots of other things. All that stuff ultimately makes money for the game company and they're sure as hell not going to do it.
also, there was never anything stopping someone from giving these publishers/devs as much money as you want. really. you want to dump 50k on your favorite dev? go for it. nothing stopping you.
Oh, what fresh hell awaits today?
Tip jars?
In my videos games?
Oh, my….someone somewhere has lot the plot.
"who pays for twitter" - I spat my Drink out LAUGHING
Love the use of valheim to literally drag a giant leech out of the water
Adding to Steph's explanation of USAmerican tipping, there's a book CALLED "Nickel and Dime," literally about subminimum wage for restaurant employees living off of tips. Every word details how UNliveable tips-as-wages is.
'Nickel And Dimed', by the late Barbara Ehrenreich. She was the GOAT. 'Smile Or Die' by her is also great.
3:00 Based Stephanie Sterling for using one of my favorite SpongeBob clips
Tip jars? Isn't that basically how microtransactions are supposed to be? We know they make a mint on these things. Now they want people to *volunteer* money?
If I feel like giving a dev more money, I buy another of their games, or a microtransaction in the game for providing a good, reliable service. I don't just *give* them money, that would be insane!
Exactly... they get billions from microtransactions, yet they expect us to pay their underpaid staff... like what the actual fck
@@chinghamburger2200 Oh, they don't want you to pay their underpaid staff, that would be insane.
They want you to pay for their next yacht. The staff stays underpaid.
not even that works since the devs who made the game are likely not even working for the company anymore, the only way to tip developers is to find then on the internet and pay them directly, ironically you can do both on indie games because the devs stay in the company and they usualy have an itch page were you can donate
FWIW, NOTHING was ever stopping anybody from just donating whatever cash you want to any studio you want. It's weird how they are trying to sell this "we're poor, send us tips" BS.
Welcome to late stage capitalism...
A tip is supposed to be a bonus you give as a thanks for a very good service, wich the Triple A space as a whole lacks and actively sabotages.
A tip has to first make up for the difference between the minimum wage for tipped employees and everyone else before it is a bonus for good service
So then you’d only tip for the good games duh ?
@@trentonemy4241 If at all. A tip is supposed to be voluntary by the consumer. Not a forced requirement.
@@samuelantoniocastillomeza5034 exactly, and this is what a tip would be in this case too. It’s even more optional because there is no employee staring at you holding out a tip screen.
Of course it was an Activision CEO, should have seen that coming. I wouldn't tip a CEO even if they were competent.
On reflection, I do wanna tip the video game CEOs. Here's the tip: Be competent.
That tip would go right over there incompetent little heads.... they don't know what competent even means ffs.. they think failing in their positions is being competent, while thinking everyone under them should suffer for their stupidity and failures. Be it with lay-offs or being underpaid. Because CEO's only care about themselves, and what makes THEM the most money, damn everyone else.
"Serious Lee" completely caught me off guard. Nice work.
Remarkable how many ways these billion-dollar companies can find to reword "You should give us more money for no reason."
3:12 That was bar none the most vitriolic “Sit the *fuck* down.” I have EVER heard, bravissimo
9:47 Landlord tips already exist. They’re called “key money” and are especially common in Japan. On top of deposit (which is the amount of at least three months of rent) they expect you to gift them money for their “generosity” that they picked YOU to enter a rental contract for their flat.
i am ready to buy kojima ONE coffee in person. that´s it
It's just a matter of time before players and gamers realize we don't need the big corporations to have fun.
Aaaany day now … is what I've been saying for years.
@@rolfs2165 it's not a matter of saying it, it's a matter of pushing it. Showing to casual gamers that a single purchase of Terraria can give them tons more fun than whatever theyre paying subscription to.
I've never had Kool-Aid but I'll pick the red one because I'm easily led.
So, they want money for free now? Basically?
and their chips for nothing
no, wait, other way round
There has been a grand total of once that I felt that I had to pay more for a game I was playing. That was Dwarf Fortress. Because it is two guys, who love what they make and sharing it with the community.
Strike the Earth you bearded bastard! :)
Any time someone says "support" anything, be it developers, troops, or children, they're likely scamming you.
This reminds me of the sudden revelation I had when I was at the grocery store and the checkout machine asked me if I wanted to make a donation to charity. My brain immediately replied, "No, large corporation, that's your duty to society, not the role of the guy buying groceries with food stamps."
And who's going to make the large corporation do it? In fact, where in the book of capitalism does it say that's the large corporation's duty to society?
@@arturoaguilar6002When they colluded to hike the cost of living for everyone and called it "inflation" pretending like it's a force of nature when it's really just greed.
always a good day when there is a new Jimquistion
You mean every Monday? I know of a fat red cat who begs to differ.
There already is a tip jar feature built in to every game, it's called "Gifting the game to your friends"
Only way I tip is to buy DLCs and expansions. And the only game I constantly tip that way is Vampire Survivors.
My favorite Kool-Aid flavor is no kool-aid please. I'd rather have simply apple or orange juice.
Some of us couldn't afford juice when we were young and needed something to cover up the weird taste in the city water at grandma's house
@@Lectrikfro That's legit. I drank kool-aid as a child but don't have any sort of attachment to it. Which is for the better as Kool-Aid in America has allot of those bad additives that Europe regulates out of their drinks and or foods because they have a semblance of a government.
The entire premise is faulty. He says the AAA games industry deserves ""tips"" when it's offered an exceptional game with no hidden fees... but even if those hidden fees haven't cropped up by the time you make your "donation," there's no guarantee they won't be coming later. We've seen dozens of games say they wouldn't have microtransactions to lure in early buyers but once they've all been bled, the microtransactions come anyway.
Pretty sure the TRIPLE AYYY industry is physically incapable of releasing games without extra fees at this point so I don't know who he's trying to fool.
RE4 selling cheats two weeks after release lmao, nice tipping!
Who is rich enough to tip extra money for a game they liked? They are already $70.00. No thanks, I'll pass on that mate. If a game implemented this, it will still nickel and dime you on top of that. I liked how he added that little part as if it wouldn't.
As shown in the video, deluxe editions are sort of already doing that... These companies will squeeze their buyers if they can.
I'm an indie dev with a game on Steam, and Valve once refused my game build because it had a small, unobtrusive donation link in the game. Much like the example you offered about Twitch streamers with third party donation links, I have to find another place to post tip links because Steam will not facilitate any hint of a possibility of a transaction without Valve taking a cut.
That's outrageous. What game is it?
This can only work if people are confident they're not funding another stock buyback or executive bonus and video game companies are some of the least trustworthy companies ever.
I saw an article recommended to me last week that was in line with this. Something about how players want a game to stop putting out free updates and start charging them so they can give the developers more money. I think the game in question was balder gate 3.
Gaming CEOs saying they "support developers" is like republicans saying they "support the troops".
It like libs supporting Islam despite the fact they would throw your kind off of rooftops lol
In canada, tipping is considered a standard in restaurants despite the fact that legally people should be getting paid minimum wage and above... which obviously sucks, but becomes an on going topic of 'minimum wage needs to be LIVABLE wage' in order for us to not feel pressured to tip.
I and many people don't get the tip option despite getting paid the same as resturaunt workers here but because tipping was never normalized beyond resturaunts it has raised the issue that tipping is also a method of preventing more people from demanding livable wages.
In a perfect world, tipping shouldn't be a nessecity, and what blizzard is doing is dangerous as hell since it will be more excuse not to pay their workers fairly even more.
you can blame Americans for the tipping culture in Canada. really. They keep trying to implement it here in New Zealand as well, but so far we've just told them to get bent.
canada mention!
lol no game at $70 is even worth that initial price much less extra
Tipping is rare here in Australia, only given for exceptional service that goes above and beyond. It's not the cultural norm that they want it to be. And nothing AB has made in the last twenty years could remotely be considered going above and beyond. Now, tipping the creators of indie gems Balatro and Boneraiser Minions is something I would do, but a massive company? Not a chance in hell.
Those Bruce Lee visual puns continue to be hilarious and awesome!
I liked the Hell No references too.
👏👏👏👏👏
Shoutout to whoever decided on the Mirror B music for the t-shirt part, that shit slaps
Fun fact: The US federal minimum cash wage for tipped employees (monthly tips of $30 or more) is $2.13
Source: US Department of Labour, Wage and Hour Division, as of 01.01.2024
....I've now learned you can harpoon leeches in Valheim...
Not gonna lie, this is me showing off that I just learned that recently as well :D
sadly they stopped selling Kool-Aid packets here, except in specialty import candy shops, but there was this colour changing one when I was a kid in the 80s that I loved
The “hell fucking no” graphic deserves a shoutout… omg superb.
I was amused to the point i would have to insult this person for his stupidity of not knowing what double dipping is.
some people are so out of touch of the reality, it's concerning
That credit music still slaps, it's been over ten years and it still gets me going.
living in America and directly experiencing it myself, I've always hated and still hate the purely tipping hierarchy for a large number of diners/restaurants. It's always been bad and always been ass-backwards yet for some reason it seems to only get more aggressive and worse as the years go by. We all agree that it needs to be do away with but virtually no company wants to step up and do something about it.
When people give me the "support the devs" argument i like to point out that the devs already got paid, and these days likely laid off, before you even had the chance to buy the game (indie devs excluded of course). As far as I understand it, devs generally aren't getting fucking residuals for game sales. Sure, the studio will get some money, and that money will go straight to executives
...I had to pause the video to stop laughing after the Hell Fucking No gag
Seems to me like Mike Ybarra just found out about Ko-Fi and went, "Why isn't all that money going into MY pocket?" Get bent, Mike!
Just wanted to say loved the 11:45 receipt, it feeds the obsessive pauser in me.
I spent way too much time on that thing and I'm so glad someone stopped to read it
I love this psychotic idea that you TIP A COMPANY! Like putting ten bucks in that starving underpaid dev's pocket is one thing, (it's a bad thing, these people should be paid and not out of the random kindness of their customers) but giving it to fucking EA is insane.
It's practically the same scam corporations pull when they ask you to donate to a charity at the checkout counter. That money doesn't go directly to the charity, but to the company so it winds up on their bottom line as revenue. Then when they donate it, sometimes with a matching donation, they get to write the whole thing off on their taxes for a better return despite them just conning more people into giving them money to make the books look better.
It is stupid for the same reason that NORMAL tip jars are fucking stupid.
It isn't so that good service gets more payment, but as a way for companies to avoid having to pay wages.
Did you hear about restaurants that started taking the tips up to distribute evenly among staff but what happened is that once the company got their hands on the money they started a policy of taking (stealing) 40% for the restaurant itself before passing them on to the employees.
Sterling no longer needs a weirding module!
Well, there is definitely this facet of it where studios absolutely will front and center just steal a giant portion of that tip money. But the other issue, and it's the same issue I have with normal tipping in any other setting, is... why isn't the studio just paying the employee more? If they are bringing so much value, and the studio knows this... Then why are they stealing it from them? Just pay them more. Why are average people expected to pay for goods AND subsidize the pay of the employees that make X/Y/Z company's business run so well? The company should be paying them enough that tips aren't necessary in the first place.
They don't sell Kool-Aid in the UK so I can't really say.
That being said, Deep Rock Galactic is the only game that has a tip jar worth using.
because you don't pay a single IRL penny to actually use it :^)
plus it plays a cool animation and makes noises!!!
Rock and stone!
@@NetNeelsie To the bone!
The only "tip" i'd be willing to pay is for stuff like buying the soundtrack of a game seperately from the actual game, and even then the game has to be awesome, not merely good or even ok. Usually however, the only time I am willing to pay a second time in a premium game is for additional content after the game (Shadow of the Erdtree lets goooo!), but again, the game has to actuallly be good enough to warrant that. It'd be best if there was a sort of guarantee that the devs would see some of that money.
Big corpo don't need the money, since no matter how much money they end up getting, the devs will NEVER see any bonuses from it.
No shot that 10 to 20 buck "tip" goes to the actual workers who made the experience that so wowed Mike
I've never had Kool-aid, because of location. But I'd gladly offer whatever flavour they had at Jonestown to billionaires?
They'll never go for it, because Jonestown used the off-brand Flavor-Aid. Billionaires would probably see anything less than AAA-brand stuff as a personal insult.
@@DiggingForFacts I'll be sure to mix it in the kitchen, away from eyes. I'm pretty sure I can get away with it. Billionaires care about branding, but have no taste and clearly don't care about the difference between what's on and inside of the box.
Here's the deal if i like your game i'll consider buying it ☠️
Thats not enough. Dont be greedy
My first thought when I heard about this idea was... Execs would love this, so they could have an excuse to lower the wage they pay their employees and say "Well it's just like the American service industry. We can pay less, but you'll be fine cause you get tips." I hope this never happens, it would be a catastrophe for the normal people building our games. Can these people be MORE out of touch with normal folks? There is something TRULY wrong in their heads.
Another great video!
As others have pointed out, Tipping in America wasn't corrupted per se. It was always awful and that awfulness has just been masked over the years by restaurant industry propaganda.
The reason it took off here while it simultaneously went away in Europe was as a way to get around the 13th amendment without giving freedmen actual wages.
Not much has changed. And, as Steph pointed out, Mike Ybarra suggested this tipjar nonsense for the same reason.
You know who should pay the developers extra if they made a good game Mike? Their employer! YOU, MIKE! YOU were supposed to pay them more when they done a good developer job!
Every now and then a rich person reminds us they've never been poor and don't understand what things like tips are actually for.
Purple kool-aid is the only kool-aid.
Hey fun coincidence, I found out you can tip cops in the UK. Like, as an actual tip like in taxis and restaurants and not a bribe. My dealer was telling me about it a couple of days ago and it's the first I heard of it. Unless he just got rolled by a corrupt cop.
Jim is the Activision/Blizzard of former TH-cam video game creators.
Thanks for showing me Pulstario, Steph. Right up my alley and I have purchased it. :)
This is even dumber than the people who “donate” to multi-millionaire streamers, while simultaneously complaining about the cost of living.
It's when dumber than the people who give money to Trump even though he's allegedly a billionaire.
once again, did not get this on my homepage. I make sure to check my subscriptions every monday now to see your videos steph! BTW, I've been loving the outfits you've been wearing lately, but I was wondering if the pink suit would ever make a return cuz it's one of my favorites you've worn, it's fabulous.
Tough to decide on a favourite flavour as there's no Kool-Aid sold here.😋
The Shinra theme in the background was a nice touch. Hit the nail on the feckin head.
should i be ashamed that i recognized angela white before it panned up to her face?
I'm sure the developers would love those £0.001p tip when a £10 tip is split between an entire group of developers on a game... I'm so sure EA, Blizzard, Ubisoft, etc wouldn't somehow take advantage of tipping at all... no siree!
2:14 - very good point - Tipping being a 'gateway' to normalise the idea that games should get another hike in price to $90, and that we - the consumer - should be voluntarily clamouring for it. "People just want to pay $90 for our games, who are we to argue?"
And you can damn well bet they won't take tips off'f the subsequent $90 sequels when they come out, or the $110 sequels to those when they happen.
10:33 okay these visual puns are getting great now