Thing is that piracy is not legally stealing. It's copyright infringement and only if you are the one distributing it. Downloading is perfectly fine in terms of the law. (local laws may apply and your mileage might vary)
It's also an availability problem, there's shows that I actively don't watch because they are on a streaming service that I'm not paying for. It's not a mentality everybody has, but it works for me. Then again I keep ways to play physical media precisely so I can pick up stuff I don't have access to either new or secondhand.
@@nobodyinparticular9640MW3 being $70 and developed in mere months with a terrible story and pretty much only includes maps from the original MW2 looool
@@benedictrogers1478For me the availability problem is some of the shows I want to watch aren't avalable on _any_ streaming service and aren't on DVD either.
The argument I heard against piracy was "you wouldn't illegally download a pizza would you?" and my answer is absolutely. I would 100% download pizza for free if I could lol
The best part of that anti piracy video, is that the people that put it out, did not have the rights to the music they put on it. So the anti-piracy ad, used pirated music.
This is my real question, here - why does _literally everything_ need to be a subscription service now? Why does my file converter, my conference call software, and my _f***ing AAC app_ all feel entitled to a monthly stipend for a software that never changes and needs no upkeep?!
Because the companies have realised they can extract more money out of people by getting them to sub for $1.99 a month forever than they can by selling for $39.99 once. It's not about the product, it's about rent-seeking. Case in point - I bought MS Office 2013 retail for ~$200. I haven't given MS any more money for Office software since, and probably won't for another 10 years, because using Office365 at work makes it very clear that there's nothing new in current versions of Office that I actually need. 10 years (so far) for ~$200 up front vs $700+ ($5.99 a month for 120 months). They try to claim value-adds like OneDrive, but I don't wanrt cloud storage and if I did I can buy it seperately. None of this stuff *needs* to be a monthly subscription, but the corps can make more money if it is, so that's what will happen.
Because car makers would love to sell heating and AC as a premium subscription-only service and abuse the fuck out of the fact their expensive products can’t be easily replaced.
Because recurrent revenue means they can potentially extract more money than a one-time sale in addition to having a constant stream of income flowing in. It also means they can end the service and force everyone onto the next product in line.
Fun fact: Animaniacs ended at 99 episodes during its original run because at 100 it got some new status for the network and because the new boss didn't want his name attached to it, he axed the entire show.
@@rarewhiteape That would have been one of the best-looking sites on the Web back when that commercial was made! Have they ever seen an actual torrent site!? 😂
It's not just the gaming community, there was a legal fight between Disney and RedBox wherein Red Box would buy Disney movies for their rental service-- movies that came with digital vouchers. RedBox figured since the movies were all legal purchases, that they'd be legal to sell the digital vouchers. Disney said no, buying a movie isn't buying a movie. You bought a *liscense* to watch that movie, and the digital voucher cannot be re sold. The court agreed. I think that was 3 years ago.. You bet your ass that precident is gonna come back to bite ALL media in the ass
I'm pretty sure the "buying a movie is only buying a license despite you holding a physical copy of it" thing has been realized and legalized and supported LONG before that dispute. That's why as far back as VHS videos would have a warning at the front about them being for personal use only and not being able to redistribute copies. The idea being that if you bought a movie, couldn't take it home and start copying it endlessly to sell yourself. You also couldn't take it home and sell tickets to your own private movie theater for others to watch. You could of course resell that copy as long as you didn't illegally copy it first. You could also give it away with the same stipulation.
I cant even stream my steam link movies. I get black screen cause of drm, even using my phone to stream megamind with ads i get a black screen cause its not the original device. Couldn't stream borderlands 2 on steam link cause of same drm issue. Guess ill rewire house to have direct hdmi and dvi cables since internet im able to do less.
@@goodlookinouthomie1757 You make yourself sound like a clairvoyant. Everyone knew this was coming. Most normies don't care and never will though, so there's no stopping it. Most people probably don't even know they still had this content on their Playstation that they already moved on from.
🤔I think you could help fix this with legislation. First, disallow marketing or implying that a purchase of a temporary license is actually a purchase of a permanent license to the show. Another change would be similar to what happened in the movie industry years ago - movie _producers_ weren't allowed to own the _theatres_ where movies were shown, and had to allow (as far as I know) any theatre to purchase a license. For streaming, you'd want to force streamer-producers to sell licenses to their content; For example, you could stream a Netflix-produced show on Disney+ (or whatever). Shortening the horrendously long copyright term would also help a lot, since companies would have to compete more with existing media.
Unless you can keep the data you bought and nothing can interfere with your ability to use said data from a third party, then the concept of "digital ownership" doesn't actually exist and can't exist.
Friendly reminder that "terms of service" are not considered legal documents and are not enforceable in several parts of the world. If this affected you in any way, I recommend checking with a lawyer. Chances are, you have a really good shot at taking them to court and winning, specially if a bunch of people do the same.
...but corporations can sue countries for passing any laws that might limit their profits. And the trials are in front of corporate tribunals, not courts.
The problem is that the terms of service and EULAs are supplementary, they give you extra “protections” or “rights” that aren’t actually covered by law. Fighting license agreements makes no sense because it’s what gives you the license to the copyrighted work to begin with. If you somehow fought it and won you’d be left with a fun plastic frisbee with some game art on it or in the case of digital purchase you’d have made a generous donation to the rights holder.
I’ve generally stayed away from pirating stuff (more out of habit than any misplaced sense of “morality”) but the salty smell of the sea gets stronger every day… Also, if every pirated piece of media is a “lost sale,” surely cancelling a finished movie for a tax write-off is infinite lost sales?
I go through periods of not doing it but every time I take sail I find that it's easier than ever and I regret not doing it sooner. we're in a golden age that hasn't been seen since the east india trading company, you can literally just google shit and find whole reddits lol
@@mjc0961because lawyers never lie....? Right. Law does not equal Truth, but maybe we should not be addressing this in legal terms, like "Fraud" . If a Law does not serve the people, it's not an ethical Law in my book.
If they debunked it based on one-sided agreements that customers have no input over, which still don't stop the transactions from being falsely advertised as purchases, then the whole foundation of their "debunking" is rotten and only held up by plutocratic bulshit.
Before the rise of subscriptions the end game was "You'll own nothing and be happy" but now the end game is "You'll own nothing and pay for it". They'll turn everything from saving to accepting a quest in a game into either a pay wall or a massive grind, and there will be nothing you can do about it. We have to unionize and protest now to stop it.
Bullshit. The 'you'll own nothing and be happy" discussion paper was a RESPONSE to the rise of subscriptions and rentals in place of ownership: not the other way around.
@@jamesphillips2285 Yeah a positive response to this growing trend, and a trend the paper unambiguously encourages. It's not fair to call it an end-game (as stated), but you can't just deny all the cheer-leading it's doing either.
When people call Microsoft "pro-consumer" because its a buzzword they mindlessly regurgitate, I roll my eyes because this is the exact future they want too.
@@rotomfan63 this is what all of them want. Netflix was the perfect opportunity to soften people on digital media and they exploited it to its full potential.
Yeah people forgot about the always on drm of the Xbox one that definitely couldn't be patched out and was essential to maximize performance. You know the one that was later patched out.
I remember a story a while back (maybe around 2010) when Bruce Willis wanted to add his digital music library to his will, Apple told him that he didn't "own" the music, but rather the license to listen to it in as long as the license was valid (i.e his life, or for however long Apple decided it was valid). That was when I first realised that we'll never really own digital content, and that's the intention.
I hated when they did that to Willow, it was a fun fantasy show and Disney just threw it in the trash. Recently I also returned to physical media, the 4K blu ray of Raiders of The Lost ark has an unskippable anti-piracy warning. I've spent god knows what on what is essentially a luxury format and they still waste my time with this shit, and it's a FBI warning which is especially funny because I don't live in the US.
Can’t say I’m surprised. Cell phone manufacturers were always pulling this with their products. PC manufacturers too. Hell, even DVDs - DVDs still have region locks on them preventing customers from watching them. Yes, there’s plenty of ways around that but it shouldn’t exist in the first place.
I’m always happy to see the creepy fake sponsorships, it’s one of my favorite old gags from this show. As for NEW gags, Zilla’s song parodies are amazing, so the old and the new are working out Steph!
If you ever meet a video game, movie, TV, or music executive, you can ward them away by repeating the phrase "first sale doctrine" like you're trying to exorcise Pazuzu.
@banquetoftheleviathan1404 fix it, buy a Wii U, buy a new Wii. You atleast have options with physical media, especially if you take care of the items, you lack that option with digital media.
It's doubly obnoxious that not only are all the studious dividing up their content into separate streaming services, but this year they've started cracking down on password sharing which had been the only thing making those services affordable for a lot of people. Sure, it's maybe gonna give them a short-term revenue spike, which is of course the only thing investors care about, but in the long run this is probably gonna be the deathnell for most of those platforms as customers tighten their belts and become pickier about which services they are willing to pay for. All the while piracy is gonna be there as an alternative for dropped subscription, and once somebody crosses the hurdle of pirating even a single show, well then it all the easier to just keep pirating more and more until the notion of paying for any subscription at all becomes anathema. Late stage capitalism being demonstratably self-destructive at its finest.
Also, many people may change their minds about donating media to places like GoodWill and the Salvation Army. What good is extra space when you are paying more for less and less content?
That's why I love my physical complete editions. You get the game, a year worth of patches and even the DLCs all on one disc nobody can take away from you. That said, laws for digital ownership need to adapt and be overhauled.
@@fix0the0spadeHave not encountered any such game myself luckily but heard they exist. (playing on PS5). The Horizon Forbidden West complete edition even has two whole discs cause the game + DLC did not fit on one.
@@envoyofrot7046 You see it in the PC world especially, most boxed PC games have just been Steam keys on a disc for a while, and increasingly not even the disc!
It's why "digital only" consoles scare me. I can see the plot forming infornt of us. The game industry wants everyone to switch over to digital so they can charge us more when content "disappears" from storefronts. Remember when people paid a lot of money for VC games on the Wii U? Now they have to pay for those games in a subscription service.
As an Infinity Train fan, piracy is a VERY necessary evil. I was terrified the same thing would happen to the Owl House before it was done, and it still very much could happen
@@Stinkoman87 I specifically paid for Disney+ because I was like "Of course the Disney show (Tangled) produced by Disney for Disney channel based on a Disney product based on a story in public domain is gonna be there. It even showed up on Google to be there!" Nope. Then I went looking for a physical copy. Apperently it's exclusive to some club-thingy that's probably not even a thing in my country! Your whole shtick troughout your +100 years of existance is greed, why don't you want me to pay you?
Absolutely brutal for the creators, too. Your work is gone. Residuals are impossible. Reputation suffers, portfolio suffers. Income stops. The corps want us to pay them recurringly, but they just want to pay us once 🤔
Just a few days ago I had reason to ride with Uber, and the driver informed me that he'd let his subscription for the push-button tailgate release lapse and it no longer worked, so I had to manually open it. Five years ago I'd have though he was bullshitting me. Now I just sigh and nod, because this is the world we live in: Having to continuously pay for everything we have, and have it taken away from us on a whim.
This problem is likely to get worse. The physical media/license issue was far more likely to be resolved in the consumers’ favour because of the existing precedent of, and the analogy to, buying physical books. But with e-shops, you actually are just buying licenses of books, games, and other media. And these are almost certainly going to offer worse terms than an agreement analogous to buying physical books would. After all, we live in an era of unregulated monopolies. These matters should be urgently regulated, but things are going to get far worse, with no impetus to change, at least until some major player shits the bed thoroughly. Which will inevitably happen - imagine something like expensive college textbooks vanishing off Kindles mid-semester because Amazon and the publisher got into a tiff.
Oops!!! Already happened in 1989. New York Times - "Amazon Erases Orwell Books From Kindle" This was back in the day that the Kindle had a keyboard on it so you could type notes. All the users notes, bookmarks, and highlighting, all vanished down the memory hole along with the books. The death of irony.
Licenses are worthless. If all you're selling is a license, the price should be zero. If you're charging more than that, you're clearly selling a product.
In the short term the only regulating body on this planet that seems to have any interest in regulating tech companies at all right now is the EU and when it comes to stuff like this, it won't help those of us who don't live there.
Even if purchasing copies were ownership piracy wouldn't be stealing by sheer nature of the original entity remaining entirely intact. Piracy is not theft, period. They are two entirely different acts. Piracy includes making facsimiles or replicas, people who reproduce music albums and famous paintings are performing the act of piracy. Theft is a direct property crime in which one party removes property from another party's possesion unlawfully and without consent of the possessor.
I say this every time I see digital content being dragged off online shops, but stories like these make me look at my 3DS and Switch cartridges like a lunatic survivalist looks at cans of baked beans.
Nintendo updating the 3DS firmware after they had fully abandoned digital sales on the platform as a petty final attempt to stop people pirating games they were no longer selling.
Jailbreaking my switch was the best thing I ever did for the system. Install mods, run emulators, change themes, back up your cartridges by dumping the files, and more. (And coincidentally I am much less affected now by limited-run games publications...)
We need overhaul of the copyright system, consumer protection, and the tax system. The tax write off needs to be applicable only if the product is released or if the project is less than a certain point from completion. In any situation where the rights holder has the possibility to prevent usage or viewing of purchased product, it should use 'leased' instead of 'buy' on the store page. Media should have a temporary removal of copyright protection if said piece of media isn't being used to generate revenue by the copyrights holder.
And if it's "leased", that should require a recurring payment. If the payment is one-time, it's a purchase, full stop. If a piece of media hasn't been available for sale for six months at any point after publishing, cancel the copyright and put it into the public domain early. We need to keep copyright holders on their toes with regards to availability. Keep it on sale if you want to keep your exclusivity for revenue. And just to head off a piece of potential loophole abuse, namely that of keeping it available in some obscure place just to keep the copyright, the availability requirement should be universal. If there is any place on Earth where you can't buy it for six months, your copyright goes bye-bye. Yes, that does mean you have to offer sales to North Korea, even if virtually nobody from there will ever actually visit your site. On the off chance that Kim Jong Un decides he wants to buy a copy, you have to have the possibility open to sell to him.
Can we overhaul patents as well? They were never meant to be a perpetual source of income for the first person who runs to the patent office to grab the rights to some vague concept. They were supposed to encourage inventors of new ideas to take their product to the market by ensuring them a limited amount of time by which they could be the one to exclusively profit from it. It wasn't meant to shackle that concept to them for all eternity. Now companies go to the patent office with the broadest possible concept to lay claim to as many things as possible in hopes that they will be able to secure loyalties from these obvious ideas. How vague can these patents be? Apple claim a patent on the idea of being able to hide "virtual graffiti" from your view. And recently a company was granted a patent for a novel form of 3D printer which another group had already developed. It wasn't even a new concept, but because they were the first to get to the patent office they got it.
@@NomadSoul76 My favoured reform for patents is to convert them to a prize system. Make something patent-worthy and the government pays you 100 years' worth of GDP Per Capita, which would be more than enough to set you up for life. No need for licenses, just look up the invention and use it. The inventor has been compensated for their work.
I had a friend laugh at the idea of buying physical media because it was all going to be digital someday. I always strongly disagreed. Digital services can take content down, and even shut you out of content you own. Or change it as they see fit. Buy your favorites on physical media.
He didn't laugh but a mate questioned why I still bought DVD's and Blu-rays, when you could get so much on streaming. This was in the days when the (falsely) claimed you could watch what you want, when you want. I stated I could already do that but he shook his head. Years later he asked to borrow a series from me because Amazon had taken it out of rotation and he was only part way through. I pointed out the irony and he didn't like that.
Unfortunately most of my favourite stuff either never got a physical release, or it was only physically released in the US meaning things like hefty shipping costs, wrong measurements and no dubs/translated subs. Sigh.
@@Elwaves2925 We all can't afford to get everything in physical media. I prioritize things that are meaningful or that I know won't be on streaming for long.
@@BatDad1984 Of course and that's the way it should be, I was simplly offering up another story with similarities to your own. 🙂 I don't buy anywhere near as much as what I did back then, partly because of cost and partly because I have so much. There's also sailing the high seas as an option (especially if there is no physical version) but that's not for everyone.
Here's hoping this goes to court and once and for all it's decided whether we are renting or BUYING this stuff and if we ARE renting it, then they can legally not put "Buy" anywhere near anything to do with money. Not even "Buy a license" People went to streaming to get away from ads and now even on those they give you ads for a service you are paying for.
Back in the 2000s, I naively thought that the future of media purchases would be USB thumb drives. They were getting incredibly cheap, so it seemed like that would be a new, universal method of physical media distribution, combining the ability to own a physical copy with far greater durability and extreme portability. Then everything went streaming, and discs have stuck around as the only physical media, hanging on despite their impracticality just because they've become a niche format for people with a very specific desire, like vinyl records after the invention of the CD.
I can't even find laptops with disc drives any more, and my joint issues make using a desktop painful. So any pc games I want to play need to be digital downloads. Steam thankfully hasn't screwed me over yet, I tend to play indies with no or limited physical releases any way. The one thing I love about consoles - at least the ones my family have - is that most games are available in physical form. The Nintendo e-shop may be down, but I still have my old 3DS pokemon games on cartridge should I choose to revisit them. And if I decide I'm done forever I can give them to someone else - something I can't do with my Steam games. It's sad to see some consoles going digital only too.
funny enough i have seen some asian shows do this. season 2 of thunderbolt fantasy was sold on 4 special looking USB sicks. and someone told me they bought season 3 which came as a custom external harddrive.
And as game companies increasingly move to live services that depend on a central server, we're just going to lose more and more shit! We're doing the silent film era again but intentionally this time. I hate it.
I still remember when all the movie and video game studios were up in arms over digital piracy. I am and always have advocated for paying for the content you enjoy, but it's also my opinion that sometimes the studios don't give you any other choice *but* to hoist the Jolly Roger. I think what would be really beneficial to everyone is if there was a universal, easy-access archive for streaming services, studios, etc. to move content that they no longer can keep in their own catalogue. I get it, there's a lot of games and movies to deal with and some may not sell enough to warrant keeping on their online stores, but removing content that people have already paid for and making it so they can't access that content should be illegal.
Oh how I remember those anti-piracy adverts, how they made us laugh back in the day. Now time has moved on and I've seen media evolve I get why they were so terrified about how the internet empowered consumers. In actuality the relationship of people who create (as opposed to selling) the content and those who pirate it is a lot more variable and mixed, especially in mediums where the biggest pirates are also the biggest spenders. There's a real discussion to be had about how much internet sharing is ethical, if it's okay to pirate something you later legitimately purchase, But it's a conversation those in power don't want, because the answer is going to erode total control by admitting that some stuff is a grey area.
Remember the P.T. Demo? I do. This feels like a natural extension of that. It’s why bought the disc version of the new consoles… but now game companies aren’t even putting the actual game on the disc! I really hope that these anti-consumer measures are rewarded as they actually deserve: with ever diminishing returns as less greedy alternatives come to the forefront.
They'll happily charge you more for the box though! Anyone remember when they said that digital distribution would lead to cheaper games since there'd be no shipping, printing, packaging, loss, etc. being clumped together in the final price? It's all part of a bigger problem; you'll own nothing and you'll be happy about it. Buy an expensive-as-all-hells fucking phone, only to have the manufacturer drop support after two years. Oh but you're not allowed to ever modify it yourself, despite having paid full price for it. If you do, suddenly the manufacturer doesn't have to do _anything_ should something in the phone break. Don't even dream about changing out the battery because it's a fucking fingerprinted part and will disable your camera and microphone if you do. Thinking of buying a new car? It comes with everything, but you have to endure adverts and pay a subscription fee to use the heated seats they fucking installed. The manufacturers saved money by removing options in the manufacturing process, yet have the gall to charge you extra for them to unlock them as DLCs. Oh and that fancy new CYbERtCuCK you bought ages ago, only to get delivered now when you no longer want it? Don't fucking think about selling it because it's still owned by Tesla even though you paid for it five years back! Late-stage capitalism is a fucking poison and needs to die.
Hmm...yes and no. While the P.T. thing is bad, and it is, no-one can be compelled to sell a thing if they choose they don't want to anymore. But everyone who had P.T., can still play it (assuming they didn't uninstall it, which is certainly a problem). Taking away content from people who explicitly bought said content is an entirely different kettle of fish, and a nastier level of severity. However, I am also more than willing to accept a point to the trend of disenfranchising ownership of digital goods
Note how the automotive market is trying a similar thing to the entertainment market with taking away your rights of ownership, gradually implementing DRM, DLC and subscription features.
@@jadedheartsz Even so, it'd just be a matter of time before old reliable/repairable cars are then fazed out, like it now being hard to get physical copies of games or just games without online requirements of any form.
Piracy is morally justified in some cases. Remember to vote for your local pirate party to get better consumer rights in the digital age. Especially if you're from central Europe where pirate parties have a bigger foothold.
In the US, unfortunately, they have a bit of a severely blinkered view of, "make sure to vote for one these two almost equally awful parties who have mostly the same terrible ideology and are both in the pocket of a gaggle of corporations, or else your vote is 'wasted'!"
Considering old EULA's tried to make clear that the software (the game) you bought from them was only a license that they could revole at any point, I'm surprised it's taken this long for them to enforce & talk about in the digital age. Long live DRM-free physical.
You'd think it's because this should be legally unenforcable before court. One of western law's principles is "if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's a duck." The entire conversation around "buying" and "owning" games is so deeply ingrained to mean that people spend an up-front price for a product in exchange for unlimited and unregulated use of it - like a consumer good, sold at market. Steam is a "storefront" where you "buy" games and can download and play any game you "own" from "your library." This is a completely coherent, logical and uncontroversial sentence to make. But if we were to take EULAs seriously, this sentence would read like this: Steam is a licencing agency where you rent game licences and can download and play any game you have a valid licence for. This sentence is silly and flies in the face of how people feel about and treat the service. Logically, the most elegantly worded EULA and the most legally founded ToS should still be thrown out of court if 1) the real-life experience of the average consumer is not reflected in the text and 2) the language around the service implies another contract. Otherwise you're selling a preventive for $200 and taking the customer to your hotel room for a demonstration of its application, free of charge.
@@Beremor This is exactly why there has NEVER been a successfully prosecuted case in ANY court regarding these fraudulent EULA's, which are actually illegal in many countries. These companies KNOW that their bullshit EULAs are worthless and just conditioning, and they know that they would be thrown out of court immediately
Reminder that the old school general rule of good manners is to have an upload/download ratio of at least 2.0! Make sure that you're spreading as much as you can!
its doesnt really. physical media is largely wasteful. i mean, its a good reason to get physical media, but its a need born purely out of the greed of corporations. like basically every game ever is available on torrent and literally no one is getting paid out of that.
@@ince55ant yeah my thoughts exactly, the answer to this problem isn't still rewarding the companies but with physical media, it's by using digital media that is just a file (no drm, no special software) which can then be stored with thousands of other media in the space of a single cd case
There’s no such thing as physical media, it’s the same digital file with the same license agreement and drm. It doesn’t matter that you “own” the disc, if the rights holder blocks it in drm and you find a way to access the content on the disc another way then you are already breaking the same law that covers piracy. You might as well just download it to begin with.
Physical media doesn't mean you own it. It's just an alternate way to deliver the data and you are still just purchasing a license. The solution is for governments to regulate DRM and license's out of existence so when you buy something digitally the bits and bytes are yours to do with as you see fit including selling those bits and bytes second hand. You all get hung up on the fucking DVD/bluray you hold in your hand when that's not the issue at hand.
Two Words: Alpha Protocol. Where did it go? What happened to it? I had a copy of it, it was *unlisted* after being downloaded, when I tried to re-download, it was *deleted* from my computer. Literally the only way to obtain it is "non-standard distribution." "PIRACY IS A DISTRIBUTION PROBLEM."
Not picking it up for $40 when I and the chance is one of my biggest game collecting regrets. It's not a good game but as a huge Godzilla fan it's a celebration of the franchise I still want to experience.
As long as you make backups, you're fine. Unfortunately, proprietary systems are anti-backup as well as anti-ownership. Your real path is open-source-powered machines. Want a console? Cheap PC running a flavour of Linux optimised for TV use, such as SteamOS (if the standalone version is out yet). DVR? Same thing, but add a TV tuner card and blue-ray drive. Portable console? Steam Deck, or one of its many clones. Phone? Wipe what the manufacturer supplied and install an open-source Android version, like LineageOS (there are phone-oriented Linux distributions, but they're not ready to replace Android just yet).
Once you've experienced the nightmare, though, your ability to recall it may be revoked if they feel like your continuing recollection is inconvenient or unprofitable for them.
@DmonHiro Bro, lets use proper terminology. An all-streaming/subscription is a nightmare. Your videogames and software have ALWAYS been digital things, the only difference is how they were distributed and stored.
I recently had an epiphany; the only thing truly keeping someone from making money and getting rich (or at least economically) is their own conscience, a conscience that AAA game companies (and in fact all corporations under capitalism) do not have, but know we do, and they exploit the absolute fuck out of that for their own benefit via copyright law and appeals to our human decency.
I remember when Steam came out and I thought to myself, "Cool idea, but what happens to the stuff I bought if Steam goes out of business?" Remarkably, this is now the least of my concerns moving forward.
@@manjackson2772 Yeah, they said people would keep their games, but I'm not sure how exactly- what about games people have not downloaded? And how do they remove the DRM?
@@henryfleischer404 Steam is one of those services which seem to require publishers for their licenses to be perpetual, so that even if the sale of a digital produst on Steam is stopped, people who bought the license still have it in their steam library, and Steam will continue hosting the game's file depot on their CDN. Unfortunately, this doesn't mean the game will be playable. Only single-player games with optional networking features will remain functional. For always-online games, the files are effectively a game client which will be unable to do anything if the servers shut down or become platform-exclusive in the next update.
For years i am telling my friends they are digging their own grave only using renting services like netflix, spotify and now xbox gamepass. In the long run they will gouge you twice the price and everything will be drm'd so you will have to pay what they determine. But sure, enjou your midtier games each month for 15 bucks and dont forget to pay full price digital deluxe on the fifa and cod.
Without a disc drive and physical game, the Xbox Series S "future of affordable gaming" is an overglorified Zeebo, and Sony is following suit as ruthlessly as possible.
I feel about media the way my parents' generation felt about real estate; if you can't put your hand on it, if you can't hold it, if it's not a tangible thing (if you don't own the land), *you own nothing.*
That song was so catch tho! These don't always hit for me but I gotta admit, I kinda dig it how every Jimquisition episode is also a musical episode now. Reminds me of Phineas and Ferb that originally wasn't meant to have a song in every episode but then they did it once and just kinda kept doing it since
If pirating media is easier than buying media, more people will be inclined to commit piracy. It's quite simple. This is what happens whenever companies try to force consumers to do things their way. So apparently what these companies want is for everyone to acquire media illegally. By all means, continue with the senseless greed. I'm sure it will go swimmingly.
Physical media 4 lifeeeeeee. This is why I have 2 large storage cabinets in my house. One for movies and one for video games because when the digital apocalypse hits I’m going to be ready.
Works great until the discs degrade and stop working, or something happens to your collection (like the house burning down), or they shut the servers off, or if they do like most companies nowadays and release an unfinished product that you require a patch (or several) to play. A lot of "physical games" don't even contain a game, they're just boxes with download codes. The best way is to keep digital backups on a couple of hard drives and replace them every couple of years. Nothing lasts forever, especially not physical products (and especially when most people don't go out of their way to properly maintain the product with cleaning and storage).
@@leetri I'd wonder if releasing games as buggy unstable messes is a sneaky way to encourage future customers away from second-hand gaming in favour of (working) new games, especially with how common huge 1st day patches are. But then I remember companies' seeming incapability of thinking in the long run, so it's probably just gonna become a profitable coincidence. That and turning every game's piracy/modding into a typical Bethesda experience.
To be perfectly honest I don't think this is really practical for a lot of people these days, purchasing physical media is quite expensive for video, audio and written works and virtually impossible for software nowadays, even if your software comes on physical media it will very likely require a online activation which can easily be refused or simply deprecated rending even the physical media worthless. This is an issue but not one that is really possible to address as an individual, this requires collective action.
@@NukkuiskoHyvinVaiPois Nah it's just a consequence of poor planning by the management and exceptionally brutal deadlines. It's also sorta how the software business in general operates nowadays. It's better to get your product out there to start earning back all the money you spent developing it and then adding more features and fixing bugs over time. If you wait until the product is completely done before releasing someone else might beat you to the punch, plus you'll be in the negatives for longer since your product can't start making back its development cost until it's released. That's why early access and the likes are so popular, you can start earning money while developing the game instead of having to work for a couple of years before the money rolls in.
Heh, reminds me of a quote from a streamer I like... "Remember, kids... With a gun, you can rob a bank; but with a bank, you can rob the WORLD." - Tex of The Black Pants Legion
What trash companies. The older I get, the more respect I have for pirates because they're rescuing a good chunk the media I love. Also, loved the song at the end! It's been a minute since I've checked out a Jimquisition video, it sounds like these are in other videos as well? I'd totally buy an album, that was great. :D
Yo-ho, yo-ho, a pirate’s life (because it’s obnoxious to purchase goods and then come home to discover the kind merchant broke into your house and stole them from you post-purchase, so another pirate swiped the goods back from the merchant and hands them to you because we’re all in this together against the merchants who resemble, but are legally distinct from pirates) for me!
.... soooo uh... on the "selling a license not the game" is older than 2004. If you read the EULA for games released in the 80s and 90s, it _ALSO_ confirms license claims What is more, this is normal across ALL of the Software Industrial. I'd continue--but going further is likely to summon RMS... Actually, you know what? Let's actually summon RMS onto Sony and Discovery. Sony has had RMS nearby talking to them coming for a while now
I used to naiively think "oh what they did to Doctor Who was awful, glad they've learned their lesson and know that everything is preserved now" Right R-right?
This is why I both never bought any digital films from the Sony and why I buy physical dvd/blurays of my favorite films and shows. digital films should only cost as much as a rental not the full retail price as if its a dvd.
Someone once said that online colleges don't count because you shouldn't be able to accidentally X-out your entire school with a misclick. That's basically my thoughts on all-digital gaming. I've had friends complain about losing access to their accounts and therefor their entire gaming library, and I'm here standing in front of my wall of physical copies like "Huh, wish there was some way to have prevented that."
If only all games had physical copies, theres no way to prevent this with the huge amount of media that never gets a physical release. Over half my library of games doesn't exist outside of digital copies.
@@raccoontrashpanda1467Yeah, I play a lot of indie games, and so many of them never get physical copies to purchase- so if something happens and I lose access to my digital library apparently I'm shit out of luck
Oh wow do u honestly think people have the space for a wall of physical copies? You not only need to pay for the copies, but for the shelving, and must have enough space to keep them. It's nice you can afford that but that is a totally unrealistic expectation to hold other people to
@@talonhammer Dude, a bookshelf that holds, minimum, a hundred game cases costs like 30 USD. If you can afford A SINGLE MODERN GAME, you can afford two bookcases that can easily cover an entire bedroom wall. If space is the issue, then clean ya damn room. If your room is SO tiny that even a clean room doesn't leave you enough space for your collection, you've got bigger issues than your gaming collection. Be more selective with the games you buy. Put forth the money you spend on games toward bettering your life overall. If space, alone, is enough of an issue to restrict your gaming collection, reflect on that sentence.
The one and only truth: Stephanie and the production and output off all this knowledge has set something in stone forever; You are the MTV of these times, this may show my age but holy fuck this be a blessing upon us all. Also, maybe even a real life Max Headroom! I bet she goes on strange adventures where ghost of nostalgia and oligarchical/techno-feudalist/ corporate hegemony/allover-encompassing dystopia, fight/coexist with each other. A constant struggle session for those who are constantly distracted and “ill-advised “. Thank you for being my Max Heardroom!. Thank you for being my MTV ! And just congratulation all around
The problem is piracy isn't as robust as it once was. Back in the good old days the complaint was too much leechers not enough seeders, these days there are none of either.
I was already pissed I "missed" the new Willow series, now I find out Crater was yanked after 7 weeks? They're advertising the services with content and then erasing that content before people can even see it!
They would probably be like "Well, too bad, you should've watched it while it was up." I'd reply "Well, too bad, guess I'll keep my money and go pirate yo shit", heh
Z. Mann Zilla is an absolute treasure, absolutely love hearin these funny as hell songs in the jimquisition now. And as usual, great work on the video Steph, digital ownership needs some kind of regulation for the better, or shit like this will only get more and more agregious
This is why I’m pro-physical media for movies and video games. Digital content may be more convenient but it come with a price. And don’t buy into the whole capitalism reward artists nonsense
why though? lots of pirated media has the suffix "Webrip" for a reason. and physical releases are only bound to get more ridiculously expensive as Limited Run games and co. exploit this sentiment. Real game preservation is done by the likes of hShop, not the completionist buying every game off the eShop, putting away hard drives of encrypted data and forgetting to dump his console keys.
Even physical media is co-opted. DVDs degrade at an alarming rate, old CDs are very durable, but they changed how they made CDs so they would get damaged more easily. Now music is almost exclusively Spotify for most people, and Spotify pays artists even less than the old Industry companies did...
Physicals degrade over time. The solution is to digitize your physicals yourself so yoh bypass DRMs (when not baked right into the physicals...) AND get a digitalization together. Both Or You Lose Automatically.
Not really, unfortunately, as they degrade and often have regional lock-outs and other forms of DRM, not to mention that games in particular suffer greatly from not getting patches or getting authenticated by a console (some games strictly require internet connection for that particular reason on both xbox and ps, do correct me if I'm wrong). Sucks for regular folk either way.
Shit like this is why I’m not morally against stealing from the corpos and actively enjoy seeing them get screwed over. Afterall if they can take away something i bought from them i clearly don’t own it any more than if i simply took it without paying.
The problem is they are selling the *license to view* it. But the catch is when that licensable item comes back, you regain access to it. Unless of course, they do something even more underhanded like calling it a slightly different version by adding 2 extra seconds of bonus footage and making you buy it all over again. But they'd NEVER be so shady and underhanded as to do that.... Right?
"would make more money as a tax write off" Alas, this isn't new. Stuff made to keep rights and then write off has been around for a while. The main one I can think of is the Roger Corman Fantastic Four film.
There's a very similar situation with the game Sega MegaDrive/Genesis Classics.There used to be a plethora of games to download for it but eventually all but Shadow Dancer were taken down for sale. This left the Steam Workshop and modders to fill in the gaps as well as add completely new games. Granted, this situation is slightly different because if you purchased the roms for the system before they got taken down, you'd get to keep them, but the principle remains the same.
Revenue, not profits. There's way too many ways to make it look like you're not making any profit, but you can't disguise your revenue. Also, all management and executive positions should be volunteer ones and you should not be allowed to hold them if you own shares in the company. Sell them first, then you can take the position.
I remember that "yOu OwN tHe dIsK, nOt ThE cOnTeNt" thing coming up on the Xbox Forums. A lot of muppets defended it. I said, "No, I own the content on the disk. I don't buy a car and only license the engine. I own it all."
If buying something isn't ownership, then piracy isn't stealing!
Most underrated comments on this video. Shut up and take my like.
piracy is amazing no matter what that great thing is.
Piracy rings all across the world
Thing is that piracy is not legally stealing. It's copyright infringement and only if you are the one distributing it. Downloading is perfectly fine in terms of the law. (local laws may apply and your mileage might vary)
Fucking yes!
If a piece of media is used as a tax write off, then it should automatically become public domain!
Underrated comment right here
"You wouldn't steal a movie." Unless you're Sony and HBO and you have armies of lawyers that allow you to steal movies from your own customers.
irony is the music played in those ads was used without permission
"You wouldn't steal a TV!"
Seems a bit presumptuous
@@jadedheartszWait, what?!? What do I type into Google to find this?
@@jadedheartsz This is false. One ad of this type, which is lost media now, stole the song it used.
They don’t need an army of lawyers, it’s completely legal for them. US copyright law is a scourge
Don't make us tap the sign: "Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem"
I'd say it can be the latter too in cases
Mostly triple ay cases
It's also an availability problem, there's shows that I actively don't watch because they are on a streaming service that I'm not paying for. It's not a mentality everybody has, but it works for me.
Then again I keep ways to play physical media precisely so I can pick up stuff I don't have access to either new or secondhand.
@@nobodyinparticular9640MW3 being $70 and developed in mere months with a terrible story and pretty much only includes maps from the original MW2 looool
@@benedictrogers1478 I would say that imperfect availability is a type of service problem.
@@benedictrogers1478For me the availability problem is some of the shows I want to watch aren't avalable on _any_ streaming service and aren't on DVD either.
A perfect example of why the push towards an "all digital future" has me kicking and screaming
The more digital it all gets the easier it is to pirate it all.
Back it up on externals.
They don't teach sailing no more in class. Lern to swim
@@vincentvega3093Neither do they teach spelling
@@banquetoftheleviathan1404 Like that'll be a solution.
That anti-piracy "you wouldn't steal a..." advert always made my little contrarian child self want to go on a crime spree.
right? Like, oh, you know me that well, do you? You _know_ I wouldn't steal a car?
Yeah it just made downloading stuff seem more exciting.
The argument I heard against piracy was "you wouldn't illegally download a pizza would you?" and my answer is absolutely. I would 100% download pizza for free if I could lol
It's the dramatic music, you know you're cool downloading stuff now.
The best part of that anti piracy video, is that the people that put it out, did not have the rights to the music they put on it. So the anti-piracy ad, used pirated music.
This is my real question, here - why does _literally everything_ need to be a subscription service now? Why does my file converter, my conference call software, and my _f***ing AAC app_ all feel entitled to a monthly stipend for a software that never changes and needs no upkeep?!
Because the companies have realised they can extract more money out of people by getting them to sub for $1.99 a month forever than they can by selling for $39.99 once. It's not about the product, it's about rent-seeking. Case in point - I bought MS Office 2013 retail for ~$200. I haven't given MS any more money for Office software since, and probably won't for another 10 years, because using Office365 at work makes it very clear that there's nothing new in current versions of Office that I actually need. 10 years (so far) for ~$200 up front vs $700+ ($5.99 a month for 120 months). They try to claim value-adds like OneDrive, but I don't wanrt cloud storage and if I did I can buy it seperately.
None of this stuff *needs* to be a monthly subscription, but the corps can make more money if it is, so that's what will happen.
Because car makers would love to sell heating and AC as a premium subscription-only service and abuse the fuck out of the fact their expensive products can’t be easily replaced.
Because recurrent revenue means they can potentially extract more money than a one-time sale in addition to having a constant stream of income flowing in. It also means they can end the service and force everyone onto the next product in line.
Investors love that sweet recurring revenue. Means they don't have to make anything new. Every company aspires to be a landlord
@@ladyabaxa exactly!
Fun fact: Animaniacs ended at 99 episodes during its original run because at 100 it got some new status for the network and because the new boss didn't want his name attached to it, he axed the entire show.
It will never not be funny to me that the song used in the “you wouldn’t steal a car” add was used without compensating the creator.
In the age of 3D printers, yes, people _would_ download a car.
@@autobotstarscream765I'd love to download a car. Better yet, download a house, then I might actually be able to afford one.
I want someone to build a torrent hosting site to use the exact visual design of the one seen in this ad.
@@rarewhiteape That would have been one of the best-looking sites on the Web back when that commercial was made! Have they ever seen an actual torrent site!? 😂
This is false. One ad of this type, which is lost media now, stole the song it used.
It's not just the gaming community, there was a legal fight between Disney and RedBox wherein Red Box would buy Disney movies for their rental service-- movies that came with digital vouchers. RedBox figured since the movies were all legal purchases, that they'd be legal to sell the digital vouchers. Disney said no, buying a movie isn't buying a movie. You bought a *liscense* to watch that movie, and the digital voucher cannot be re sold.
The court agreed.
I think that was 3 years ago..
You bet your ass that precident is gonna come back to bite ALL media in the ass
It was just explicitly banned in the EU like last week
I'm pretty sure the "buying a movie is only buying a license despite you holding a physical copy of it" thing has been realized and legalized and supported LONG before that dispute. That's why as far back as VHS videos would have a warning at the front about them being for personal use only and not being able to redistribute copies.
The idea being that if you bought a movie, couldn't take it home and start copying it endlessly to sell yourself. You also couldn't take it home and sell tickets to your own private movie theater for others to watch.
You could of course resell that copy as long as you didn't illegally copy it first. You could also give it away with the same stipulation.
Why does this sound similar to the concept of NFTs???
It was inevitable that streaming would turn into cable 2.0. Greed upon greed, and history repeats itself.
I cant even stream my steam link movies.
I get black screen cause of drm, even using my phone to stream megamind with ads i get a black screen cause its not the original device.
Couldn't stream borderlands 2 on steam link cause of same drm issue.
Guess ill rewire house to have direct hdmi and dvi cables since internet im able to do less.
From the instant I was compelled to install Steam in order to play Half-Life 2 in 2004, I saw this coming.
@@goodlookinouthomie1757 You make yourself sound like a clairvoyant. Everyone knew this was coming. Most normies don't care and never will though, so there's no stopping it. Most people probably don't even know they still had this content on their Playstation that they already moved on from.
Yeah, we were predicting this would happen the instant companies started showing interest in it. At least it's made piracy easier than ever.
🤔I think you could help fix this with legislation. First, disallow marketing or implying that a purchase of a temporary license is actually a purchase of a permanent license to the show. Another change would be similar to what happened in the movie industry years ago - movie _producers_ weren't allowed to own the _theatres_ where movies were shown, and had to allow (as far as I know) any theatre to purchase a license. For streaming, you'd want to force streamer-producers to sell licenses to their content; For example, you could stream a Netflix-produced show on Disney+ (or whatever). Shortening the horrendously long copyright term would also help a lot, since companies would have to compete more with existing media.
The reason corporations hate piracy isn't because it's stealing. It's because it's competition.
Unless you can keep the data you bought and nothing can interfere with your ability to use said data from a third party, then the concept of "digital ownership" doesn't actually exist and can't exist.
One of the reasons I try to buy physical media exclusively.
@@wesleythomas7125And you digitally back those physicals up so if/when the physicals break you've a no DRM copy still then?
Buying digital products is just renting
Yeah, the EU has better digital Rights laws than the US. This particular removing of your bought shows would gets destroyed over there.
@@wesleythomas7125 Works for shows, but not so much for games these days. Take MW3, 150 gig download day one. Just no way a DVD will contain that.
Friendly reminder that "terms of service" are not considered legal documents and are not enforceable in several parts of the world. If this affected you in any way, I recommend checking with a lawyer. Chances are, you have a really good shot at taking them to court and winning, specially if a bunch of people do the same.
Exactly what the games industry needs: so many class action lawsuits that they bend to our will out of exhaustion.
...but corporations can sue countries for passing any laws that might limit their profits. And the trials are in front of corporate tribunals, not courts.
Which gey nahtsee off of TH-cam University told you that load of horse pucky?
@@M_M_ODonnellin some backwards countries maybe, but in civilized places they cannot do such insanities.
The problem is that the terms of service and EULAs are supplementary, they give you extra “protections” or “rights” that aren’t actually covered by law. Fighting license agreements makes no sense because it’s what gives you the license to the copyrighted work to begin with. If you somehow fought it and won you’d be left with a fun plastic frisbee with some game art on it or in the case of digital purchase you’d have made a generous donation to the rights holder.
I used to be anti-piracy and pro-corporate.
Then I grew up.
I’ve generally stayed away from pirating stuff (more out of habit than any misplaced sense of “morality”) but the salty smell of the sea gets stronger every day…
Also, if every pirated piece of media is a “lost sale,” surely cancelling a finished movie for a tax write-off is infinite lost sales?
I go through periods of not doing it but every time I take sail I find that it's easier than ever and I regret not doing it sooner. we're in a golden age that hasn't been seen since the east india trading company, you can literally just google shit and find whole reddits lol
Ross Scott said it best, and it remains true: Games as service is fraud.
That wasn't true when he said it, and it's not true now. Actual lawyers debunked it.
@@mjc0961because lawyers never lie....? Right. Law does not equal Truth, but maybe we should not be addressing this in legal terms, like "Fraud" . If a Law does not serve the people, it's not an ethical Law in my book.
@@mjc0961 The State said this is the truth, so I believe it- you, in 1938, Aachen, western part of The Third Reich.
If they debunked it based on one-sided agreements that customers have no input over, which still don't stop the transactions from being falsely advertised as purchases, then the whole foundation of their "debunking" is rotten and only held up by plutocratic bulshit.
@@LarixusSnydes Indeed. An immoral law is an invalid law.
Before the rise of subscriptions the end game was "You'll own nothing and be happy" but now the end game is "You'll own nothing and pay for it". They'll turn everything from saving to accepting a quest in a game into either a pay wall or a massive grind, and there will be nothing you can do about it. We have to unionize and protest now to stop it.
Bullshit. The 'you'll own nothing and be happy" discussion paper was a RESPONSE to the rise of subscriptions and rentals in place of ownership: not the other way around.
If the game becomes an awful shite to play due to that... Then why play it at all?
@@jamesphillips2285 Yeah a positive response to this growing trend, and a trend the paper unambiguously encourages. It's not fair to call it an end-game (as stated), but you can't just deny all the cheer-leading it's doing either.
Don't buy that shit. Buy indies.
When people call Microsoft "pro-consumer" because its a buzzword they mindlessly regurgitate, I roll my eyes because this is the exact future they want too.
Don't pretend it's not what they all if not almost all want
@@rotomfan63 theyre not pretending that lol, hence they said "this is the exact future they want *too*".
@@rotomfan63 this is what all of them want.
Netflix was the perfect opportunity to soften people on digital media and they exploited it to its full potential.
Yeah people forgot about the always on drm of the Xbox one that definitely couldn't be patched out and was essential to maximize performance. You know the one that was later patched out.
Note that "pro-consumer" has never been the same thing as "pro-owner".
I remember a story a while back (maybe around 2010) when Bruce Willis wanted to add his digital music library to his will, Apple told him that he didn't "own" the music, but rather the license to listen to it in as long as the license was valid (i.e his life, or for however long Apple decided it was valid).
That was when I first realised that we'll never really own digital content, and that's the intention.
I hated when they did that to Willow, it was a fun fantasy show and Disney just threw it in the trash.
Recently I also returned to physical media, the 4K blu ray of Raiders of The Lost ark has an unskippable anti-piracy warning. I've spent god knows what on what is essentially a luxury format and they still waste my time with this shit, and it's a FBI warning which is especially funny because I don't live in the US.
Can’t say I’m surprised. Cell phone manufacturers were always pulling this with their products. PC manufacturers too. Hell, even DVDs - DVDs still have region locks on them preventing customers from watching them. Yes, there’s plenty of ways around that but it shouldn’t exist in the first place.
I’m always happy to see the creepy fake sponsorships, it’s one of my favorite old gags from this show.
As for NEW gags, Zilla’s song parodies are amazing, so the old and the new are working out Steph!
Seconding for the songs!
Zilla's production overall has been crazy these past few videos. He must be stopped before he gets stronger.
If you ever meet a video game, movie, TV, or music executive, you can ward them away by repeating the phrase "first sale doctrine" like you're trying to exorcise Pazuzu.
Don't insult Pazuzu like that, he's an extremely useful demon in SMT V.
Why I'm still pro physical media and why companies have made me pro-piracy
Was gonna buy a switch till I heard emulators ran Metroid Dread perfectly, thank you Kotaku.
I too am a Blu-ray/DVD collector to this day.
Yeah but what about when my wii stops working
@banquetoftheleviathan1404 fix it, buy a Wii U, buy a new Wii. You atleast have options with physical media, especially if you take care of the items, you lack that option with digital media.
@@saininjI always buy the shows/movies I love/adore when available. I'm still pissed I can't buy Star Wars Andor or Midnight Mass physically.
It's doubly obnoxious that not only are all the studious dividing up their content into separate streaming services, but this year they've started cracking down on password sharing which had been the only thing making those services affordable for a lot of people.
Sure, it's maybe gonna give them a short-term revenue spike, which is of course the only thing investors care about, but in the long run this is probably gonna be the deathnell for most of those platforms as customers tighten their belts and become pickier about which services they are willing to pay for.
All the while piracy is gonna be there as an alternative for dropped subscription, and once somebody crosses the hurdle of pirating even a single show, well then it all the easier to just keep pirating more and more until the notion of paying for any subscription at all becomes anathema.
Late stage capitalism being demonstratably self-destructive at its finest.
Also, many people may change their minds about donating media to places like GoodWill and the Salvation Army. What good is extra space when you are paying more for less and less content?
That's why I love my physical complete editions.
You get the game, a year worth of patches and even the DLCs all on one disc nobody can take away from you.
That said, laws for digital ownership need to adapt and be overhauled.
Sadly many 'physical' games now are little more than the installer or some recent cases a CD-Key in a case and nothing else.
@@fix0the0spadeHave not encountered any such game myself luckily but heard they exist. (playing on PS5).
The Horizon Forbidden West complete edition even has two whole discs cause the game + DLC did not fit on one.
For now... If there was some sneaky way for them to physically steal all your gamer crap back, without breaking home invasion laws, they would lol.
@@envoyofrot7046 You see it in the PC world especially, most boxed PC games have just been Steam keys on a disc for a while, and increasingly not even the disc!
And of course having the physical copy with actual data doesn't actually help when EA shuts your game's servers off
If you can steal a CRT tv that easily I feel like you've earned that tv.
Yeah, when the thing weighs more than half what you do, you've earned it.
haha, right? I have a 24 inch CRT I use for retro games and the damn thing is nearly 100 lbs.
It's why "digital only" consoles scare me. I can see the plot forming infornt of us. The game industry wants everyone to switch over to digital so they can charge us more when content "disappears" from storefronts. Remember when people paid a lot of money for VC games on the Wii U? Now they have to pay for those games in a subscription service.
As an Infinity Train fan, piracy is a VERY necessary evil. I was terrified the same thing would happen to the Owl House before it was done, and it still very much could happen
Piracy "evil"?
Thing you got wrong there who's actually evil, them cancer corpos, eh
There are a lot of cartoons that I just want to buy a bluray box set of, but I can't because they don't exist. Not even the Duck Tales reboot has one.
@@Stinkoman87 I specifically paid for Disney+ because I was like "Of course the Disney show (Tangled) produced by Disney for Disney channel based on a Disney product based on a story in public domain is gonna be there. It even showed up on Google to be there!" Nope. Then I went looking for a physical copy. Apperently it's exclusive to some club-thingy that's probably not even a thing in my country! Your whole shtick troughout your +100 years of existance is greed, why don't you want me to pay you?
Absolutely brutal for the creators, too. Your work is gone. Residuals are impossible. Reputation suffers, portfolio suffers. Income stops.
The corps want us to pay them recurringly, but they just want to pay us once 🤔
I have never heard a CITV character get so thoroughly eviscerated. Orinoco Flow was just uncalled for.
As a genuine Enya fan, I cackled at that line
Just a few days ago I had reason to ride with Uber, and the driver informed me that he'd let his subscription for the push-button tailgate release lapse and it no longer worked, so I had to manually open it.
Five years ago I'd have though he was bullshitting me. Now I just sigh and nod, because this is the world we live in: Having to continuously pay for everything we have, and have it taken away from us on a whim.
name and shame that automobile manufacturer.
No answer would surprise me, and yet I think we all know which one it definitely is.
Let me guess, a KIA?
A fella, a clever fella, might install a push button switch wired directly to the release solenoid.
@@timothy8428yep
Absolutely insane Zaslav got paid by the taxpayers to destroy art and Batgirl didn't have to enter the public domain in return.
This problem is likely to get worse. The physical media/license issue was far more likely to be resolved in the consumers’ favour because of the existing precedent of, and the analogy to, buying physical books. But with e-shops, you actually are just buying licenses of books, games, and other media. And these are almost certainly going to offer worse terms than an agreement analogous to buying physical books would. After all, we live in an era of unregulated monopolies.
These matters should be urgently regulated, but things are going to get far worse, with no impetus to change, at least until some major player shits the bed thoroughly. Which will inevitably happen - imagine something like expensive college textbooks vanishing off Kindles mid-semester because Amazon and the publisher got into a tiff.
Oops!!! Already happened in 1989. New York Times - "Amazon Erases Orwell Books From Kindle" This was back in the day that the Kindle had a keyboard on it so you could type notes. All the users notes, bookmarks, and highlighting, all vanished down the memory hole along with the books. The death of irony.
Licenses are worthless. If all you're selling is a license, the price should be zero. If you're charging more than that, you're clearly selling a product.
Likely? Do you mean an absolute certainty?
In the short term the only regulating body on this planet that seems to have any interest in regulating tech companies at all right now is the EU and when it comes to stuff like this, it won't help those of us who don't live there.
If purchasing isn't ownership, then piracy isn't stealing.
Man, can I "not steal" this phrase for a T-Shirt?
@@h0laPlanetaIf you ask that enough on social media then bots will pick it up and auto generate a shirt you can buy. Really. Actually not joking.
Even if purchasing copies were ownership piracy wouldn't be stealing by sheer nature of the original entity remaining entirely intact.
Piracy is not theft, period. They are two entirely different acts.
Piracy includes making facsimiles or replicas, people who reproduce music albums and famous paintings are performing the act of piracy.
Theft is a direct property crime in which one party removes property from another party's possesion unlawfully and without consent of the possessor.
@@Vanity0666Piracy is like if someone steals your car but it's still there in the morning.
I say this every time I see digital content being dragged off online shops, but stories like these make me look at my 3DS and Switch cartridges like a lunatic survivalist looks at cans of baked beans.
Nintendo updating the 3DS firmware after they had fully abandoned digital sales on the platform as a petty final attempt to stop people pirating games they were no longer selling.
@@SetsuneW Oh yeah. I love their hardware and games, but Nintendo as a corporation are right bastards.
Plenty of Switch games are not complete on cartridge and require a download. Not to mention none of them have patches.
Jailbreaking my switch was the best thing I ever did for the system. Install mods, run emulators, change themes, back up your cartridges by dumping the files, and more.
(And coincidentally I am much less affected now by limited-run games publications...)
@SetsuneW And it STILL didn’t work! There was another jailbreak update the next DAY!
The massive takeaway here is that when piracy is the more moral option, something is terribly wrong with digital media distribution.
We need overhaul of the copyright system, consumer protection, and the tax system. The tax write off needs to be applicable only if the product is released or if the project is less than a certain point from completion. In any situation where the rights holder has the possibility to prevent usage or viewing of purchased product, it should use 'leased' instead of 'buy' on the store page. Media should have a temporary removal of copyright protection if said piece of media isn't being used to generate revenue by the copyrights holder.
And if it's "leased", that should require a recurring payment. If the payment is one-time, it's a purchase, full stop.
If a piece of media hasn't been available for sale for six months at any point after publishing, cancel the copyright and put it into the public domain early. We need to keep copyright holders on their toes with regards to availability. Keep it on sale if you want to keep your exclusivity for revenue.
And just to head off a piece of potential loophole abuse, namely that of keeping it available in some obscure place just to keep the copyright, the availability requirement should be universal. If there is any place on Earth where you can't buy it for six months, your copyright goes bye-bye. Yes, that does mean you have to offer sales to North Korea, even if virtually nobody from there will ever actually visit your site. On the off chance that Kim Jong Un decides he wants to buy a copy, you have to have the possibility open to sell to him.
Can we overhaul patents as well? They were never meant to be a perpetual source of income for the first person who runs to the patent office to grab the rights to some vague concept. They were supposed to encourage inventors of new ideas to take their product to the market by ensuring them a limited amount of time by which they could be the one to exclusively profit from it. It wasn't meant to shackle that concept to them for all eternity.
Now companies go to the patent office with the broadest possible concept to lay claim to as many things as possible in hopes that they will be able to secure loyalties from these obvious ideas.
How vague can these patents be? Apple claim a patent on the idea of being able to hide "virtual graffiti" from your view.
And recently a company was granted a patent for a novel form of 3D printer which another group had already developed. It wasn't even a new concept, but because they were the first to get to the patent office they got it.
@@NomadSoul76 My favoured reform for patents is to convert them to a prize system. Make something patent-worthy and the government pays you 100 years' worth of GDP Per Capita, which would be more than enough to set you up for life. No need for licenses, just look up the invention and use it. The inventor has been compensated for their work.
It's not piracy if they don't wanna sell it to you.
Emulation in a nutshell
I had a friend laugh at the idea of buying physical media because it was all going to be digital someday. I always strongly disagreed. Digital services can take content down, and even shut you out of content you own. Or change it as they see fit. Buy your favorites on physical media.
He didn't laugh but a mate questioned why I still bought DVD's and Blu-rays, when you could get so much on streaming. This was in the days when the (falsely) claimed you could watch what you want, when you want. I stated I could already do that but he shook his head. Years later he asked to borrow a series from me because Amazon had taken it out of rotation and he was only part way through. I pointed out the irony and he didn't like that.
Unfortunately most of my favourite stuff either never got a physical release, or it was only physically released in the US meaning things like hefty shipping costs, wrong measurements and no dubs/translated subs. Sigh.
@@Elwaves2925 We all can't afford to get everything in physical media. I prioritize things that are meaningful or that I know won't be on streaming for long.
@@BatDad1984 Of course and that's the way it should be, I was simplly offering up another story with similarities to your own. 🙂
I don't buy anywhere near as much as what I did back then, partly because of cost and partly because I have so much. There's also sailing the high seas as an option (especially if there is no physical version) but that's not for everyone.
If purchasing isn’t owning, piracy isn’t stealing
Here's hoping this goes to court and once and for all it's decided whether we are renting or BUYING this stuff and if we ARE renting it, then they can legally not put "Buy" anywhere near anything to do with money. Not even "Buy a license"
People went to streaming to get away from ads and now even on those they give you ads for a service you are paying for.
Back in the 2000s, I naively thought that the future of media purchases would be USB thumb drives. They were getting incredibly cheap, so it seemed like that would be a new, universal method of physical media distribution, combining the ability to own a physical copy with far greater durability and extreme portability.
Then everything went streaming, and discs have stuck around as the only physical media, hanging on despite their impracticality just because they've become a niche format for people with a very specific desire, like vinyl records after the invention of the CD.
I can't even find laptops with disc drives any more, and my joint issues make using a desktop painful. So any pc games I want to play need to be digital downloads. Steam thankfully hasn't screwed me over yet, I tend to play indies with no or limited physical releases any way.
The one thing I love about consoles - at least the ones my family have - is that most games are available in physical form. The Nintendo e-shop may be down, but I still have my old 3DS pokemon games on cartridge should I choose to revisit them. And if I decide I'm done forever I can give them to someone else - something I can't do with my Steam games. It's sad to see some consoles going digital only too.
you're better off buying from GOG as those are DRM free@@Ariento
funny enough i have seen some asian shows do this.
season 2 of thunderbolt fantasy was sold on 4 special looking USB sicks. and someone told me they bought season 3 which came as a custom external harddrive.
And as game companies increasingly move to live services that depend on a central server, we're just going to lose more and more shit! We're doing the silent film era again but intentionally this time. I hate it.
I still remember when all the movie and video game studios were up in arms over digital piracy. I am and always have advocated for paying for the content you enjoy, but it's also my opinion that sometimes the studios don't give you any other choice *but* to hoist the Jolly Roger. I think what would be really beneficial to everyone is if there was a universal, easy-access archive for streaming services, studios, etc. to move content that they no longer can keep in their own catalogue. I get it, there's a lot of games and movies to deal with and some may not sell enough to warrant keeping on their online stores, but removing content that people have already paid for and making it so they can't access that content should be illegal.
Oh how I remember those anti-piracy adverts, how they made us laugh back in the day. Now time has moved on and I've seen media evolve I get why they were so terrified about how the internet empowered consumers.
In actuality the relationship of people who create (as opposed to selling) the content and those who pirate it is a lot more variable and mixed, especially in mediums where the biggest pirates are also the biggest spenders. There's a real discussion to be had about how much internet sharing is ethical, if it's okay to pirate something you later legitimately purchase, But it's a conversation those in power don't want, because the answer is going to erode total control by admitting that some stuff is a grey area.
Remember the P.T. Demo? I do. This feels like a natural extension of that. It’s why bought the disc version of the new consoles… but now game companies aren’t even putting the actual game on the disc!
I really hope that these anti-consumer measures are rewarded as they actually deserve: with ever diminishing returns as less greedy alternatives come to the forefront.
They'll happily charge you more for the box though! Anyone remember when they said that digital distribution would lead to cheaper games since there'd be no shipping, printing, packaging, loss, etc. being clumped together in the final price?
It's all part of a bigger problem; you'll own nothing and you'll be happy about it. Buy an expensive-as-all-hells fucking phone, only to have the manufacturer drop support after two years. Oh but you're not allowed to ever modify it yourself, despite having paid full price for it. If you do, suddenly the manufacturer doesn't have to do _anything_ should something in the phone break. Don't even dream about changing out the battery because it's a fucking fingerprinted part and will disable your camera and microphone if you do.
Thinking of buying a new car? It comes with everything, but you have to endure adverts and pay a subscription fee to use the heated seats they fucking installed. The manufacturers saved money by removing options in the manufacturing process, yet have the gall to charge you extra for them to unlock them as DLCs. Oh and that fancy new CYbERtCuCK you bought ages ago, only to get delivered now when you no longer want it? Don't fucking think about selling it because it's still owned by Tesla even though you paid for it five years back!
Late-stage capitalism is a fucking poison and needs to die.
Hmm...yes and no. While the P.T. thing is bad, and it is, no-one can be compelled to sell a thing if they choose they don't want to anymore. But everyone who had P.T., can still play it (assuming they didn't uninstall it, which is certainly a problem). Taking away content from people who explicitly bought said content is an entirely different kettle of fish, and a nastier level of severity.
However, I am also more than willing to accept a point to the trend of disenfranchising ownership of digital goods
@@Crawver except they are allowed to. It is in the TOS.
My first experience with that (Game not actually on the disk) was when I bought a "copy" of Portal.
What you should do instead is buy old hardware and maintain it, while installing security bypasses on it.
Note how the automotive market is trying a similar thing to the entertainment market with taking away your rights of ownership, gradually implementing DRM, DLC and subscription features.
that's why used cars are better
@@jadedheartsz Even so, it'd just be a matter of time before old reliable/repairable cars are then fazed out, like it now being hard to get physical copies of games or just games without online requirements of any form.
Piracy is morally justified in some cases. Remember to vote for your local pirate party to get better consumer rights in the digital age. Especially if you're from central Europe where pirate parties have a bigger foothold.
pirate parties? That sounds dope. I hope they have plenty of rum
Piracy is such an ugly word. Let's borrow a page out of the corporate weasel-word dictionary, and call it "Civil Consumer Product Re-acquisition".
The extraordinarily short list of circumstances that justify piracy include and are limited to:
All of them
In the US, unfortunately, they have a bit of a severely blinkered view of, "make sure to vote for one these two almost equally awful parties who have mostly the same terrible ideology and are both in the pocket of a gaggle of corporations, or else your vote is 'wasted'!"
@@gameygeemer4142Here a handy flowchart to go along with that:
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Fun fact: the music in that anti piracy ad was itself pirated for the ad. On top of that; the music was also plagiarised
Considering old EULA's tried to make clear that the software (the game) you bought from them was only a license that they could revole at any point, I'm surprised it's taken this long for them to enforce & talk about in the digital age. Long live DRM-free physical.
You'd think it's because this should be legally unenforcable before court.
One of western law's principles is "if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's a duck." The entire conversation around "buying" and "owning" games is so deeply ingrained to mean that people spend an up-front price for a product in exchange for unlimited and unregulated use of it - like a consumer good, sold at market.
Steam is a "storefront" where you "buy" games and can download and play any game you "own" from "your library." This is a completely coherent, logical and uncontroversial sentence to make. But if we were to take EULAs seriously, this sentence would read like this:
Steam is a licencing agency where you rent game licences and can download and play any game you have a valid licence for. This sentence is silly and flies in the face of how people feel about and treat the service.
Logically, the most elegantly worded EULA and the most legally founded ToS should still be thrown out of court if 1) the real-life experience of the average consumer is not reflected in the text and 2) the language around the service implies another contract.
Otherwise you're selling a preventive for $200 and taking the customer to your hotel room for a demonstration of its application, free of charge.
@@Beremor This is exactly why there has NEVER been a successfully prosecuted case in ANY court regarding these fraudulent EULA's, which are actually illegal in many countries.
These companies KNOW that their bullshit EULAs are worthless and just conditioning, and they know that they would be thrown out of court immediately
'Was meant to be one sentence.' Please continue writing the scripts like this, I love your prose!
I've always advocated for piracy and now I'm glad that this sentiment is being echoed by larger voices. Just remember Zoomers, seed your torrents.
Unfortunately, seeding isn't always possible. If my ISP thinks I'm "uploading too much" they'll throttle my bandwidth.
Reminder that the old school general rule of good manners is to have an upload/download ratio of at least 2.0! Make sure that you're spreading as much as you can!
And don't forget to use a VPN! 😉
We’ll have to teach some of them how to do this. Some of them have no idea how to pirate and I have no problem helping them out.
@@dahn57I really don't think a VPN will keep you safe in any way. VPNs lie about what they can actually do.
I like how that radical 90s "downloading is stealing" commercial makes so many false assumptions about what I wouldn't steal.
This only pushes the argument of the need to have physical media
And promotes piracy as well
its doesnt really. physical media is largely wasteful. i mean, its a good reason to get physical media, but its a need born purely out of the greed of corporations. like basically every game ever is available on torrent and literally no one is getting paid out of that.
@@ince55ant yeah my thoughts exactly, the answer to this problem isn't still rewarding the companies but with physical media, it's by using digital media that is just a file (no drm, no special software) which can then be stored with thousands of other media in the space of a single cd case
There’s no such thing as physical media, it’s the same digital file with the same license agreement and drm. It doesn’t matter that you “own” the disc, if the rights holder blocks it in drm and you find a way to access the content on the disc another way then you are already breaking the same law that covers piracy. You might as well just download it to begin with.
Physical media doesn't mean you own it. It's just an alternate way to deliver the data and you are still just purchasing a license. The solution is for governments to regulate DRM and license's out of existence so when you buy something digitally the bits and bytes are yours to do with as you see fit including selling those bits and bytes second hand.
You all get hung up on the fucking DVD/bluray you hold in your hand when that's not the issue at hand.
Two Words: Alpha Protocol. Where did it go? What happened to it? I had a copy of it, it was *unlisted* after being downloaded, when I tried to re-download, it was *deleted* from my computer. Literally the only way to obtain it is "non-standard distribution." "PIRACY IS A DISTRIBUTION PROBLEM."
welp that means my steam copy of it is literally useless, man i love the digital age
it got removed cause of it's use of that Autograph song in the Brayko boss fight.
This is the same reason why you can’t find a copy of Godzilla PS4 anywhere except at Conventions where you have to pay up to $250 for it.
There's also the fact that the game was really shit......
Not picking it up for $40 when I and the chance is one of my biggest game collecting regrets. It's not a good game but as a huge Godzilla fan it's a celebration of the franchise I still want to experience.
I've been telling this to people for years: a digital only future is a NIGHTMARE.
As long as you make backups, you're fine. Unfortunately, proprietary systems are anti-backup as well as anti-ownership.
Your real path is open-source-powered machines. Want a console? Cheap PC running a flavour of Linux optimised for TV use, such as SteamOS (if the standalone version is out yet). DVR? Same thing, but add a TV tuner card and blue-ray drive. Portable console? Steam Deck, or one of its many clones. Phone? Wipe what the manufacturer supplied and install an open-source Android version, like LineageOS (there are phone-oriented Linux distributions, but they're not ready to replace Android just yet).
Once you've experienced the nightmare, though, your ability to recall it may be revoked if they feel like your continuing recollection is inconvenient or unprofitable for them.
@DmonHiro Bro, lets use proper terminology. An all-streaming/subscription is a nightmare. Your videogames and software have ALWAYS been digital things, the only difference is how they were distributed and stored.
I recently had an epiphany; the only thing truly keeping someone from making money and getting rich (or at least economically) is their own conscience, a conscience that AAA game companies (and in fact all corporations under capitalism) do not have, but know we do, and they exploit the absolute fuck out of that for their own benefit via copyright law and appeals to our human decency.
I had the exact same epiphany about 15 years ago
I remember when Steam came out and I thought to myself, "Cool idea, but what happens to the stuff I bought if Steam goes out of business?"
Remarkably, this is now the least of my concerns moving forward.
True. I'm pretty sure that Steam still honors those video purchases people made, even though they closed down the video store ages ago.
They had an answer to that at the time, I'm pretty sure.
@@manjackson2772 Yeah, they said people would keep their games, but I'm not sure how exactly- what about games people have not downloaded? And how do they remove the DRM?
@@henryfleischer404 Steam is one of those services which seem to require publishers for their licenses to be perpetual, so that even if the sale of a digital produst on Steam is stopped, people who bought the license still have it in their steam library, and Steam will continue hosting the game's file depot on their CDN.
Unfortunately, this doesn't mean the game will be playable. Only single-player games with optional networking features will remain functional. For always-online games, the files are effectively a game client which will be unable to do anything if the servers shut down or become platform-exclusive in the next update.
For years i am telling my friends they are digging their own grave only using renting services like netflix, spotify and now xbox gamepass. In the long run they will gouge you twice the price and everything will be drm'd so you will have to pay what they determine. But sure, enjou your midtier games each month for 15 bucks and dont forget to pay full price digital deluxe on the fifa and cod.
Without a disc drive and physical game, the Xbox Series S "future of affordable gaming" is an overglorified Zeebo, and Sony is following suit as ruthlessly as possible.
I have been watching your work since the mid 2000s and I am so thankful that you're still at it! Love your work and thank Gods for you! ♥
With Second Wind and your weekly upload, I find it hard to *not* look forward to almost daily content ❤️
I feel about media the way my parents' generation felt about real estate; if you can't put your hand on it, if you can't hold it, if it's not a tangible thing (if you don't own the land), *you own nothing.*
That song was so catch tho! These don't always hit for me but I gotta admit, I kinda dig it how every Jimquisition episode is also a musical episode now. Reminds me of Phineas and Ferb that originally wasn't meant to have a song in every episode but then they did it once and just kinda kept doing it since
SHOUT OUT TO Z MAN!!! These bangers at the end really elevate the show considerably and drive home the absurdity of the topic even further!
"For to make me a piss"
I fucking love you
If pirating media is easier than buying media, more people will be inclined to commit piracy. It's quite simple. This is what happens whenever companies try to force consumers to do things their way.
So apparently what these companies want is for everyone to acquire media illegally. By all means, continue with the senseless greed. I'm sure it will go swimmingly.
Physical media 4 lifeeeeeee. This is why I have 2 large storage cabinets in my house. One for movies and one for video games because when the digital apocalypse hits I’m going to be ready.
Smart gamer.
Works great until the discs degrade and stop working, or something happens to your collection (like the house burning down), or they shut the servers off, or if they do like most companies nowadays and release an unfinished product that you require a patch (or several) to play. A lot of "physical games" don't even contain a game, they're just boxes with download codes.
The best way is to keep digital backups on a couple of hard drives and replace them every couple of years. Nothing lasts forever, especially not physical products (and especially when most people don't go out of their way to properly maintain the product with cleaning and storage).
@@leetri I'd wonder if releasing games as buggy unstable messes is a sneaky way to encourage future customers away from second-hand gaming in favour of (working) new games, especially with how common huge 1st day patches are. But then I remember companies' seeming incapability of thinking in the long run, so it's probably just gonna become a profitable coincidence. That and turning every game's piracy/modding into a typical Bethesda experience.
To be perfectly honest I don't think this is really practical for a lot of people these days, purchasing physical media is quite expensive for video, audio and written works and virtually impossible for software nowadays, even if your software comes on physical media it will very likely require a online activation which can easily be refused or simply deprecated rending even the physical media worthless. This is an issue but not one that is really possible to address as an individual, this requires collective action.
@@NukkuiskoHyvinVaiPois Nah it's just a consequence of poor planning by the management and exceptionally brutal deadlines.
It's also sorta how the software business in general operates nowadays. It's better to get your product out there to start earning back all the money you spent developing it and then adding more features and fixing bugs over time. If you wait until the product is completely done before releasing someone else might beat you to the punch, plus you'll be in the negatives for longer since your product can't start making back its development cost until it's released.
That's why early access and the likes are so popular, you can start earning money while developing the game instead of having to work for a couple of years before the money rolls in.
I was just about to complain about twin peaks and you did it for me thank you!...the whole series was on TH-cam for years and nobody cared..wtf
That opening analog was enthralling, I hope steph can get their chemically altered mostly safe for land walker consumption beverage product back
That Scorpion Scream Energy bit was an absolute masterwork of wordsmithing.
Remember folks: you can't steal from a corporation or the rich
Damn right.
Heh, reminds me of a quote from a streamer I like...
"Remember, kids... With a gun, you can rob a bank; but with a bank, you can rob the WORLD."
- Tex of The Black Pants Legion
It's not theft, it's reclamation.
@@Nathan_TalisienThat quote is older than my grandma.
@@Nathan_Talisien I don't know who that is, but that is quite possibly the greatest line I have read in the past 25+ years.
What trash companies. The older I get, the more respect I have for pirates because they're rescuing a good chunk the media I love.
Also, loved the song at the end! It's been a minute since I've checked out a Jimquisition video, it sounds like these are in other videos as well? I'd totally buy an album, that was great. :D
Yo-ho, yo-ho, a pirate’s life (because it’s obnoxious to purchase goods and then come home to discover the kind merchant broke into your house and stole them from you post-purchase, so another pirate swiped the goods back from the merchant and hands them to you because we’re all in this together against the merchants who resemble, but are legally distinct from pirates) for me!
.... soooo uh... on the "selling a license not the game" is older than 2004. If you read the EULA for games released in the 80s and 90s, it _ALSO_ confirms license claims
What is more, this is normal across ALL of the Software Industrial. I'd continue--but going further is likely to summon RMS...
Actually, you know what? Let's actually summon RMS onto Sony and Discovery. Sony has had RMS nearby talking to them coming for a while now
I agree with the sentiment that if buying isn't ownership, then piracy isn't theft.
And if piracy _IS_ theft, then what Sony did is destruction of property.
Any fan of Doctor Who understands exactly how much value executives have always placed on art preservation.
I used to naiively think "oh what they did to Doctor Who was awful, glad they've learned their lesson and know that everything is preserved now"
Right
R-right?
This is why I both never bought any digital films from the Sony and why I buy physical dvd/blurays of my favorite films and shows. digital films should only cost as much as a rental not the full retail price as if its a dvd.
I'm loving these Zmanzilla songs every episode. You guys should do shorts or whatever of it, put it out there
Someone once said that online colleges don't count because you shouldn't be able to accidentally X-out your entire school with a misclick. That's basically my thoughts on all-digital gaming. I've had friends complain about losing access to their accounts and therefor their entire gaming library, and I'm here standing in front of my wall of physical copies like "Huh, wish there was some way to have prevented that."
If only all games had physical copies, theres no way to prevent this with the huge amount of media that never gets a physical release. Over half my library of games doesn't exist outside of digital copies.
@@raccoontrashpanda1467Yeah, I play a lot of indie games, and so many of them never get physical copies to purchase- so if something happens and I lose access to my digital library apparently I'm shit out of luck
Oh wow do u honestly think people have the space for a wall of physical copies? You not only need to pay for the copies, but for the shelving, and must have enough space to keep them. It's nice you can afford that but that is a totally unrealistic expectation to hold other people to
@@talonhammer Dude, a bookshelf that holds, minimum, a hundred game cases costs like 30 USD. If you can afford A SINGLE MODERN GAME, you can afford two bookcases that can easily cover an entire bedroom wall.
If space is the issue, then clean ya damn room. If your room is SO tiny that even a clean room doesn't leave you enough space for your collection, you've got bigger issues than your gaming collection. Be more selective with the games you buy. Put forth the money you spend on games toward bettering your life overall. If space, alone, is enough of an issue to restrict your gaming collection, reflect on that sentence.
If only there was another way to actually own digital media...
Hold on, lemme ask those nice fellows on that ship with a skull flag 🏴☠️
The one and only truth: Stephanie and the production and output off all this knowledge has set something in stone forever; You are the MTV of these times, this may show my age but holy fuck this be a blessing upon us all. Also, maybe even a real life Max Headroom! I bet she goes on strange adventures where ghost of nostalgia and oligarchical/techno-feudalist/ corporate hegemony/allover-encompassing dystopia, fight/coexist with each other. A constant struggle session for those who are constantly distracted and “ill-advised “. Thank you for being my Max Heardroom!. Thank you for being my MTV ! And just congratulation all around
The problem is piracy isn't as robust as it once was. Back in the good old days the complaint was too much leechers not enough seeders, these days there are none of either.
I was already pissed I "missed" the new Willow series, now I find out Crater was yanked after 7 weeks? They're advertising the services with content and then erasing that content before people can even see it!
They would probably be like "Well, too bad, you should've watched it while it was up."
I'd reply "Well, too bad, guess I'll keep my money and go pirate yo shit", heh
Z. Mann Zilla is an absolute treasure, absolutely love hearin these funny as hell songs in the jimquisition now. And as usual, great work on the video Steph, digital ownership needs some kind of regulation for the better, or shit like this will only get more and more agregious
This is why I’m pro-physical media for movies and video games. Digital content may be more convenient but it come with a price. And don’t buy into the whole capitalism reward artists nonsense
why though? lots of pirated media has the suffix "Webrip" for a reason. and physical releases are only bound to get more ridiculously expensive as Limited Run games and co. exploit this sentiment. Real game preservation is done by the likes of hShop, not the completionist buying every game off the eShop, putting away hard drives of encrypted data and forgetting to dump his console keys.
Even physical media is co-opted. DVDs degrade at an alarming rate, old CDs are very durable, but they changed how they made CDs so they would get damaged more easily. Now music is almost exclusively Spotify for most people, and Spotify pays artists even less than the old Industry companies did...
@@acuteaura He thinks the ritualistic transfer of a plastic disc means something. In other words he fell for the propaganda.
I think you mean “convenience” but agreed
@@acuteaura just easier that way for me.
The song at the end was great. And that song at 17:42 was so nostalgic to hear. I miss Pokemon XD and Miror B.
Physical media is forever, at least until they figure out how to make blu rays explode after a number of uses
Don't give them ideas. The tech existed for dvds. They were disposable rentals basically that literally self destructed.
@@djaxisravenguard seriously? Wouldn’t that fuck up your dvd player?
Physicals degrade over time.
The solution is to digitize your physicals yourself so yoh bypass DRMs (when not baked right into the physicals...) AND get a digitalization together.
Both Or You Lose Automatically.
Not really, unfortunately, as they degrade and often have regional lock-outs and other forms of DRM, not to mention that games in particular suffer greatly from not getting patches or getting authenticated by a console (some games strictly require internet connection for that particular reason on both xbox and ps, do correct me if I'm wrong).
Sucks for regular folk either way.
So basically Flexplay was just ahead of its time?
(Yeah something less violent but similar was created, it just never took off.)
Shit like this is why I’m not morally against stealing from the corpos and actively enjoy seeing them get screwed over. Afterall if they can take away something i bought from them i clearly don’t own it any more than if i simply took it without paying.
If buying isnt owning piracy cant be stealing
The problem is they are selling the *license to view* it.
But the catch is when that licensable item comes back, you regain access to it. Unless of course, they do something even more underhanded like calling it a slightly different version by adding 2 extra seconds of bonus footage and making you buy it all over again.
But they'd NEVER be so shady and underhanded as to do that.... Right?
A new distributor logo and the year of the rerelease.
"would make more money as a tax write off"
Alas, this isn't new. Stuff made to keep rights and then write off has been around for a while. The main one I can think of is the Roger Corman Fantastic Four film.
I'm surprised you didn't mention that that "you wouldn't download a [blank]" clip that was everywhere was actually a copyright violation.
*if buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing*
I bought scott pilgrim vs the world the first time around... then it was gone. They brought it back, but my original purchase didnt come back.
"Who would take Black Adder's A Christmas Carol off in December?"
Same sort of fuck-sticks that removed Over the Garden Wall for autumn.
This is why I'm wary of cloud-digital games, either on consoles or pc. When a company steals from you - take it back.
Yes I've still got some digitally downloaded games, which no doubt are in an ownership limbo these days until some loser decides to disable access.
There's a very similar situation with the game Sega MegaDrive/Genesis Classics.There used to be a plethora of games to download for it but eventually all but Shadow Dancer were taken down for sale. This left the Steam Workshop and modders to fill in the gaps as well as add completely new games. Granted, this situation is slightly different because if you purchased the roms for the system before they got taken down, you'd get to keep them, but the principle remains the same.
If a CEO is paid so much as 1 dollar, their corporation should be fully taxed. No write-offs, no loop holes. 21% tax of the total gross profits.
If they don't make enough money, they shouldn't exist.
Revenue, not profits. There's way too many ways to make it look like you're not making any profit, but you can't disguise your revenue.
Also, all management and executive positions should be volunteer ones and you should not be allowed to hold them if you own shares in the company. Sell them first, then you can take the position.
I remember that "yOu OwN tHe dIsK, nOt ThE cOnTeNt" thing coming up on the Xbox Forums. A lot of muppets defended it. I said, "No, I own the content on the disk. I don't buy a car and only license the engine. I own it all."
Immediately upvoted. My fear is manifest. Fuck digital content. I want my games analogue. I WANT MY GAMES ON VYNAL!!!
Well, I'm sure there are plenty of games from the late 70's you can get on vynal.