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Turns out the books to read to follow the main X-Men storyline are... The main X-Men books.
"Tired of this marvel crap..."
Dawn of X was the line-wide initiative that came after House/ Powers of X. Dawn, Reign and Destiny were not retroactively named, they were marketed as such before the books were released. There were reading orders with key art for Reign and Destiny of X (i’m not sure about Dawn) just like Hitch’s Fall of X poster. By Benny’s logic, DC’s Rebirth and Dawn of DC are events, when in reality, they’re just line-wide initiatives too. I think his issue is more that X-Men has a whole line-wide initiative for themselves instead of the entirety of Marvel, which if he said that would be fine, but otherwise this doesnt make much sense.
There was a reading order with art for dawn cause I just finished the dawn of x and x of swords portion on marvel u
@@shiningnight12 there ya go. And they’ve had the reading orders in the back of issues since dawn too
@@realretro_1999 that's the only way I've been able to keep track cause I definitely misread one book before the other
Thank you Sal for acknowledging that you were too cynical about Echo. I remember the rant where you said hearing impaired. That irked me because it is hard of hearing. Another think that irked me is that Echo could be someone's Sleepwalker. I did not know to communicate my frustration so I left it alone. I did not want to misspeak for the deaf community. I am disabled, but I am not deaf. I am legally blind, have type 1 diabetes, and deal with bipolar 1. I also did not want to come across as rude because I was livid when I heard the rant. I will probably listening to the descriptive audio of Echo.
Always stay classy!
I started watching this after The Problem With. This feels like a Part 2 featuring Sal
Fall of X is doing what every labeled Era of X-Men has done, Dawn, Reign, Destiny, you didn’t have to read them all cause there’s no overarching story. Reading them all does help create the interconenctive web of the era that rewards small details but ultimately the main driving force are all the books with the name X-Men on them.
Fall of X era of X-Men are found in X-Men, X-Men Red, and Immortal X-Men. Everything else is just read about your favorite characters
Also enjoyed night terrors. Deadman’s story, Ivy’s, batman, Superman, Harley, and was my first event as a reader so I enjoyed it
Benny's wildin about the Fall of X. Every X-mencomic since Hickman has had a reading list in the back. Since the end of Hox/Pox X-Men has honestly been pretty a-la-carte save for the events that Sal mentioned. The Hellfire Gala set up the current status quo and its up to you to follow those characters or stories you're into and chill the hell out.
Agreed
Yea I don't read xmen so as a new fan I had no idea ir was like this
29:03 I'm waiting to see if zur will use guns lol
The Nolan movie is essentially a drama rather than a superhero movie.
I always thought of them as a publishing initiative, or a “line wide initiative.” I also think the Fall of X books are all 5 issues to make it easy for an omnibus, which have become incredibly popular.
Let's not forget that Batman now has a robot hand😅😂
Dope episode like always yall have the best discussions even if there aint much to discuss
You know what I miss in Marvel?
Event stories where you have a core book and the tie ins were optional
I'm glad Benny asked it feel the same way about xmen I hace no idea how to just jump in to what's going on and I thought it was an event this whole time too but it's Def more like a status que after hearing yall talk about it
Its how xmen worked since 2018
Its started
With The Dawn of X
Which had house of X and Powers of X
Which gets called hox pox
Alpha flight is good. It’s alpha flight working to play both sides against the Canadian government’s sentinel program
Benny, you had me at Hot Sauce. Im from tha South.
0:24 Gell-Mann amnesia effect in action...
32:09 Is zur batman going to be like ok soldier where the zur robin suit lol
Fall or X just feels like a “thing” that’s happening.
Like Superior was a “thing” that happened.
It’s a transition between one era to the next
I like manga about the example Benny brought up was bad, Those spinoffs aren’t needed to read the full picture for the main series. Vigilantes, takes place in the past and doesn’t affect the main current plot at all
sal almost said "Emma stone" instead of "Emma frost" XD
I’m really liking this Batman run and the art omg the art
6:36 It’s meant to be mini events that have a overall event connection.
Instead of the entire family choosing Catwomen’s side, the majority are busy with other things. I would of liked just Steph, Cass, and Time being involved with Steph on cat’s side, and Tim on bat’s side.
35:28 If marvel gives mj jackpot her baseline spiderpowers from spider Island ill laugh so hard
Batman vs. Robin is to Lazarus Planet what Legion Quest was to Age Of Apocalypse
its honestly refreshing to have a podcast where the main hosts can disagree on something.
Im on sal's side on the whole "is Fall of X an event" "Debate"
Its not an event.
It can feel like it because they are trying to put EVERYONE in it.
But its missing the big components that makes for events.
This is merely an alteration to the current x-men universe.
Its not gonna have ramifications for the rest of the universe.
So Sal is following (understanding) Marvel/X-Men and Benny is following (understanding) DC, got it. I’m following and understanding both and I think and personally feel like we’re in an overall great place with both publishers at the moment
All the Batman Stans are pathetic when its comes to debating why Batman is Overrated
oh sal you should learn or read about the Toaru mangas. they have several different titles that all connect and even have times where they are in the same place at the same time but you see it from the others point of view. it is the best when it comes to this and its what and how it should be done. the fact they do it this way and do it so well and no one is copying them is so sad.
Is it an action story? Looks too cute
Iceman is very fun
I made the mistake of taking 2 months off comics now I have no idea the reading order and I have 60 books to read 💀
Netflix cowboy Bebop was great It felt like the show It was almost one to one. Would have definitely liked the season 2 if there was anything more they can do.
I thought daredevil was pretty good but its also my daredevil comic sooo ignorance is bliss. I guess😅
By Benny's logic Dawn, Reign and Destiny of X should be considered events because they all have reading orders
Ya his points were really, really thin.
@@Justice4Skye yea i dont really see where his confusion comes from. Fall is no different from any of the other krakoa periods we've had. you just read what you want and read the X-Men book for the main plot beats.
His point made sense to me, but I also see yours. He just likes things to be easily accessible like the reading order for fall of X, he wanted something more secret wars esque where the main plot was clear and you knew where it was and everything "else" was all over the place, whereas this event as a whole feels more like everything "else" from secret wars, disjointed and doesn't matter what order you read them. Your point is "they've done it before, why is this different" his arguement is "stop doing this to events" it's like he remembers the old days but you lived the future and therefore are accustomed... I think at least
@pokefreakgaming8175 in less words. He just wants a flagship title. He wants a series called "the fall of X" with tie-ins
@@Hammerheadcomedy That sucks for him but that's just never how this era has been
Did you guys Talk about Gang War? Another Spider-Man event
Great video
The “Fall of X” is an event because after hellfire gala ALL the mutants are either hunted or scattered to unknown places. It will run this way for 5 months. Then we’ll get our resolution. By having minis, it offers the chance to Rosie on characters simply having one title wouldn’t allow. It’s an “event” because we get to see how all mutants deal with this issue.
Beeennnnnyyyyyy, PLEASE REVIEW STARGIRL S1
Engagement and interaction with creator to please the mathemagics that choses what gets seen or not.
BEnnnnny, Sal, I love all your reviews but guys PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE REVIEW STARGIRL, it's a severely UNDERRATED SHOW
please do the video series "this is why x is stupid"
"We dont need an event"... Yeah if only Marvel could help themselves
Review StarGirl
Sal facts James Gunn
It’s not hard to follow, you pick up hellfire. Then look at the back.
👍
Disagree Secret Empire or bust
First couple Seconds in and already spittin facts.
Edit: In Sal's defense, people have been memeing and fighting about how confusing it is to get into the Fate series for over 10 years since it got popular
Even Elon knows Twitter is for porn, only explanation for X
Benny’s clearly bored and reaching for topics…
It really doesn't matter. The time line will be reset and everyone who died will all be back alive.
They stopped fucking with time in marvel when they do they treate it as non cannon
There's no more moira
There's just ways to revive characters now to avoid it getting messy
For hulks its green doors
For enternals its the earth
For mutants its the five which are split up
For everyone else theres a fuck ton of options
Valkyrie gets to permentally kill characters and revive em so if your favorite character dies and jane foster appears well your not going to see that character until she appears again