Thanks for taking the time to make and upload this comparison. You did a great job highlighting the pros and cons efficiently and effectively! I'm looking at bicycle panniers from Rhinowalk, but this gave me some idea of what to expect in terms of quality. I think I will avoid zippers as much as possible and look for a simple roll top design with fewer points of ingress/failure. I can always add some seam sealer where needed.
Thank you for your evaluation of the bags. This was very useful for me. Also nice to hear your New Zealand voice. It reminded me of my two sea kayak trips in New Zealand. Good memories.
Thank you for the excellent review. What I gather is that for someone who doesn't really care about water protection, the rhinowalk is a resonable solution. The kriega is better overall and apparently specifically better when it comes to wet. The rhinowalk has a small edge in terms of storage with their 20L carrying somewhere between Kriega's 20 and 30. I just thought I'd throw it out there that for someone who is dead-set on saving money but wants even better than the Kriega waterproofing reliability an option would be to buy a Kriega replacement liner (presumably the US30) and put it inside the liner of the Rhinowalk. Not sure if the correct move there would be the Kriega US20 liner ($18) or the US30 ($23).
Hey! Great summary. For function, they both work. I’m doubtful about liner interchangeability, as the bags are essentially different shapes - diameter and length. But you could just pop inside stuff in a plastic bag, or get a water resistant backpack cover for the whole thing.
@@spannerworks2709 Do you still have both these bags? If there's a chance the liners are compatible that would be beyond amazing. Even if theyre not compatible, it probably wouldn't be too hard to sew a zipper onto a better quality drybag and try it with the rhinowalk. I have a couple coming in the mail, might be worth a try.
It certainly is, can’t argue with that! One of my considerations in the upgrade was that the Kriega team did the design ‘legwork’ to develop the features of the bag system originally. By buying Kriega I was doing my little bit for product development, to get more great innovation for bikers!
Great review. Definitely needed this as I'm trying to deliberate on which of the two to purchase. I think I'll just do exactly what you. Get the Rhinowalk for now then save up for the Kreiga. Thank you
Thanks for the comparison, The kriega looks more robust over time with the extra bits at stress points. Does the clips from Rhinowalk clip into the kriega ,which would make more versatile. I use kriega since 2005,although changed a little over time,my only gripe is ,once everything on outside is wet and you unroll the top,dragging clean clothes out over wet surfaces of outer bag.If they made out of tarpaulin typle material, would dry fast. Apart from that ,they are great.
Excellent work, thanks for the effort, its really helped me. I'm going in on the rhinowalk as the money saving is too tempting. I have a kriega 20 as a tail pack, and it's good, but not 'waterproof ' still have to have an extra drybag inside for safety.
I’ve not regretted the upgrade, it’s sturdier and the fabric is standing up to daily wear and tear better. Appreciate that we all have different financial considerations, so it’s great to have options that achieve a similar function.
been a Kriega users from 20L(warranty claimed) to 30L(unused) Drypacks and R3 Waistbag(deteriorating at the moment LOL) and a R22 backpack. The only thing that justifies the price is their 10 year warranty. Yes its more robust in the beginning but will still degrade in few year you'll end up tired of claiming warranty. I love their backpacks but for motorcycle bags, I think Rhinowalk's with your stuff in ziplocks is as good as Kriega's waterproofing and is better than nothing. cheers.
Thank you for a very thorough and eye opening review. I was looking at both options but waterproofing is vital for me! I’ve hit subscribe and Will share your channel among friends 👍🏼
Im torn between the two - so that was very useful, thank you. Kreiga for me - hang the expense. The quality will be enjoyed long after the sting of the purchase price is forgotten.......lol
Gracias no entendi nd de lo que dijistes pero gracias a tu video supe como cariños se cerraba la bolsa por la parte superior y que aparte hay otras formas de cargarlas que solo por atrás! Gracias saludos desde panamá 🇵🇦🙋🏽♂️
Very well made video thanks a lot! After watching your wonderful comparison video one question comes to my mind. Could it be that the Rhinowalk bag is the 30l version? How come it is exactly the same size as the 30l Kriega bag?
Hi, thanks for the feedback I appreciate it. That’s a sensible question - I scratched my head over that too. On the order and the ticketing, the Rhino was definitely a 20L. I have also borrowed a 30L Kriega from my brother-in-law and it is noticeably bigger again than the Rhino 20L.
I understand! Thanks a lot for clarifying. Now i am not sure which size to get... i gues i will order both and send back the one which does not suit my needs!
Coming from Malaysia, most of biking accessories are really expensive, especially when the price has been converted to Malaysian Riinggit and + the taxes involved. Often I had to resort to Chinese knock-off brands than the real deal since I love the design and practicality of that certain models. The thing I can comment is out of 10 products I bought, 8 failed. And for the authentic ones 10 i bought, about two failed. So better save some money and get the real deal.
Hi, thanks for the feedback and the question. My commute is 30 mins and it would have been fairly heavy rain. The inside would be fine in a drizzle, but wouldn’t rely on the outside pocket to be very water resistant.
@@spannerworks2709 ok I have a US20 plus a Rinowalk 30L and yup Kreiga in general make top quality luggage. So all you can really do with the Rinowalk in heavy rain is to put contents in a waterproof roll sack then put all of that in the Rinowalk. Rinowalk luggage is way cheaper to buy than Kreiga so it seems like the waterproofing is one area where it falls down
@@Theorangeman.Kreiga is made in China but Rhinowalk is a Chinese company based in Shenzhen and as the video already hinted they basically ripped off the Kreiga design and use cheaper materials and cut corners like how the buckles are not double reinforced that’s why they are so much cheaper. Rewarding companies which ripoff designs is not being a smart consumer in the long run.
Thanks for taking the time to make and upload this comparison. You did a great job highlighting the pros and cons efficiently and effectively!
I'm looking at bicycle panniers from Rhinowalk, but this gave me some idea of what to expect in terms of quality. I think I will avoid zippers as much as possible and look for a simple roll top design with fewer points of ingress/failure. I can always add some seam sealer where needed.
Glad it was helpful!
This is the video I've been looking for. I'm considering both.
Thank you very much for this unique comparison side by side. I really couldn't find this info on the Internet
Thank you for your evaluation of the bags. This was very useful for me. Also nice to hear your New Zealand voice. It reminded me of my two sea kayak trips in New Zealand. Good memories.
The price difference is too much. A light weight dry bag will keep all the items dry. Good comparison. ...
Thank you for the excellent review. What I gather is that for someone who doesn't really care about water protection, the rhinowalk is a resonable solution. The kriega is better overall and apparently specifically better when it comes to wet. The rhinowalk has a small edge in terms of storage with their 20L carrying somewhere between Kriega's 20 and 30.
I just thought I'd throw it out there that for someone who is dead-set on saving money but wants even better than the Kriega waterproofing reliability an option would be to buy a Kriega replacement liner (presumably the US30) and put it inside the liner of the Rhinowalk. Not sure if the correct move there would be the Kriega US20 liner ($18) or the US30 ($23).
Hey! Great summary. For function, they both work. I’m doubtful about liner interchangeability, as the bags are essentially different shapes - diameter and length. But you could just pop inside stuff in a plastic bag, or get a water resistant backpack cover for the whole thing.
@@spannerworks2709 Do you still have both these bags? If there's a chance the liners are compatible that would be beyond amazing.
Even if theyre not compatible, it probably wouldn't be too hard to sew a zipper onto a better quality drybag and try it with the rhinowalk. I have a couple coming in the mail, might be worth a try.
So just to add the rhinowalk is like $60 USD right now add a kriega inner liker for $23 USD and you got yourself a waterproof bag for half the price
no won't work cause 1 is velcroed in and is smaller and the other is zipped in, it wouldn't be waterproof
Thank you for posting your review. I'm looking to get a set as well, its good to hear feedback from a real consumer
Just take the bag off before washing?
Nicely done, for a first or 100th review! Very helpful and timely information for me...I've been trying to make a decision between the two.
Thank you for the comparison :) it was really really helpful… hopefully there will be more motovlogs or moto related content :)
Rhinowalk is great for the Price.
It certainly is, can’t argue with that!
One of my considerations in the upgrade was that the Kriega team did the design ‘legwork’ to develop the features of the bag system originally. By buying Kriega I was doing my little bit for product development, to get more great innovation for bikers!
lets put it this way, the Rinowalk is more than adequate 90% of the times and the Kriega doesn't justify it's super high price tag
Great review. Definitely needed this as I'm trying to deliberate on which of the two to purchase. I think I'll just do exactly what you. Get the Rhinowalk for now then save up for the Kreiga. Thank you
Thanks for the comparison, The kriega looks more robust over time with the extra bits at stress points.
Does the clips from Rhinowalk clip into the kriega ,which would make more versatile. I use kriega since 2005,although changed a little over time,my only gripe is ,once everything on outside is wet and you unroll the top,dragging clean clothes out over wet surfaces of outer bag.If they made out of tarpaulin typle material, would dry fast.
Apart from that ,they are great.
I made this comparison also. The kriga is definitely better. But the price difference... I now own the rhinowalk.
Tish....you spoke New Zealander ! Say agin, again.
Nice review 👍
Excellent work, thanks for the effort, its really helped me. I'm going in on the rhinowalk as the money saving is too tempting. I have a kriega 20 as a tail pack, and it's good, but not 'waterproof ' still have to have an extra drybag inside for safety.
Great review. The waterproof failure seems like a dealbreaker. I’d rather pay more for that level of security during the rain.
I’ve not regretted the upgrade, it’s sturdier and the fabric is standing up to daily wear and tear better. Appreciate that we all have different financial considerations, so it’s great to have options that achieve a similar function.
been a Kriega users from 20L(warranty claimed) to 30L(unused) Drypacks and R3 Waistbag(deteriorating at the moment LOL) and a R22 backpack. The only thing that justifies the price is their 10 year warranty. Yes its more robust in the beginning but will still degrade in few year you'll end up tired of claiming warranty. I love their backpacks but for motorcycle bags, I think Rhinowalk's with your stuff in ziplocks is as good as Kriega's waterproofing and is better than nothing. cheers.
Thank you for the review. Very helpful.
Awesome information, thank you, 🙏
Thank you for a very thorough and eye opening review. I was looking at both options but waterproofing is vital for me! I’ve hit subscribe and Will share your channel among friends 👍🏼
Im torn between the two - so that was very useful, thank you. Kreiga for me - hang the expense. The quality will be enjoyed long after the sting of the purchase price is forgotten.......lol
Gracias no entendi nd de lo que dijistes pero gracias a tu video supe como cariños se cerraba la bolsa por la parte superior y que aparte hay otras formas de cargarlas que solo por atrás! Gracias saludos desde panamá 🇵🇦🙋🏽♂️
The rhinowalk straps loosens after riding some distance and my bag was just hanging on one strap! very dangerous!
Very well made video thanks a lot!
After watching your wonderful comparison video one question comes to my mind. Could it be that the Rhinowalk bag is the 30l version? How come it is exactly the same size as the 30l Kriega bag?
Hi, thanks for the feedback I appreciate it. That’s a sensible question - I scratched my head over that too. On the order and the ticketing, the Rhino was definitely a 20L. I have also borrowed a 30L Kriega from my brother-in-law and it is noticeably bigger again than the Rhino 20L.
I understand! Thanks a lot for clarifying. Now i am not sure which size to get... i gues i will order both and send back the one which does not suit my needs!
Coming from Malaysia, most of biking accessories are really expensive, especially when the price has been converted to Malaysian Riinggit and + the taxes involved. Often I had to resort to Chinese knock-off brands than the real deal since I love the design and practicality of that certain models. The thing I can comment is out of 10 products I bought, 8 failed. And for the authentic ones 10 i bought, about two failed. So better save some money and get the real deal.
hey there, can u make a installation video for rhinowalk? i bought one of this but im looking for installation video :) i want to use single back bag
Thanks for an excellent review!
Hard to hear the price difference. Nice to add titles when discussing details.
So in the end, is the Kriega bag worth the price difference?
🙌Thank you for testing
What is the Rhinowalk model?
Very informative, thanks!
Thanks for the video. Hey does the rhinowalk mount across the seat instead of along the seat?
Hi, thanks for the question. You can do it either way depending on the positioning of the straps on the bike.
@@spannerworks2709 perfect. I got a 30l on the way. Thanks for the fast reply. Have a good day.
How's the kriega holding up?
Great information
Hey there, cool review. You said you had a waterproofing failure.... for how long were you riding in the rain and was it heavy rain?
Hi, thanks for the feedback and the question. My commute is 30 mins and it would have been fairly heavy rain. The inside would be fine in a drizzle, but wouldn’t rely on the outside pocket to be very water resistant.
@@spannerworks2709 ok I have a US20 plus a Rinowalk 30L and yup Kreiga in general make top quality luggage. So all you can really do with the Rinowalk in heavy rain is to put contents in a waterproof roll sack then put all of that in the Rinowalk. Rinowalk luggage is way cheaper to buy than Kreiga so it seems like the waterproofing is one area where it falls down
@@ljack383 Yes, a plastic bag costs pennies.
Just shows the gross profit margin of Kriega must be 80% 😅
you do realize the material that is used in the two bags are different aye
Are you using this as tank bag or tail bag?
as a tail bag :)
ok but Kriega costs 6 times more
So does probably most of your stuff. It's a small price to pay to ensure your belongings are safe.
It may be but what price do you put on the items inside.
Rhinowalk's from China. That on its own should be a dealbreaker.
Kreiga are also made in china
@@Theorangeman.Kreiga is made in China but Rhinowalk is a Chinese company based in Shenzhen and as the video already hinted they basically ripped off the Kreiga design and use cheaper materials and cut corners like how the buckles are not double reinforced that’s why they are so much cheaper.
Rewarding companies which ripoff designs is not being a smart consumer in the long run.