@@tvexpert_xd2388 no Ryan just makes the longer documentary style videos so it takes longer for him to churn one out, 45 is here to help make more videos for the channel
@@tvexpert_xd2388 No, Ryan just hired a second person so they could churn out more videos. Ryan still shows up in his own videos sometimes. :) Coming up with ideas, scripts, research, filming, editing etc takes time. Doing it all alone is not possible for anyone when channels get larger.
The fact you guys will recommend products you don’t sell is a rare piece of honesty. I happen to own/have owned everything shown here and I can’t find anything to disagree with.
They hardly make any gear videos any more, they’ve relinquished that role to Revzilla, so they’ve got the freedom they always wanted but much less budget for regularly intervaled videos
@@1gorSouz4 Just judging by the wording and the weird arguments for the new version - yes there is a chance. And we shouldnt forget that it's extremely pricey for beeing made out of extremely inexpensive truck tarp, that is sewn and welded/glued. none of those processes are expensive, none of the materials are either.
@@1gorSouz4 It would leave them open to all sorts of legal problems if it were an ad. TH-camrs in the USA and Canada have to tell the viewers when there is sponsored content.
Got to say. I was sceptical at first. When a successful concept brings in new people it's very common for it to be ruined. But 45 and all before him is a brilliant addition to the F9 team. He captures the feel of the "show" perfectly and it's even elevated it to a new level with the dynamic between you two. Well done.
It has taken 45 revisions to get to this point. How much of our spend at FortNine is going to this R&D? The jump in quality between 43 and 45 seems to indicate they have made some major progress with the system though.
I wasnt shure about 4x in his first apperance. I liked him by his second cameo. Now i cant imagine F9 without him, such an awesome team, really good videos, keep it up.
Same with the bicycle guy, imo, it's cool to see more videos, and still high quality content, just not always documentaries like Ryan seems to like to make
I own the Mosko panniers and love them. I’ve used the warranty twice and had them repaired at no charge, I drop my 1090 a lot. Great company with great customer service
Yep I agree about Mosko Moto. Their products are genius. So much attention to detail and they stand by their products. Their customer support is second to none as well. I’m not sponsored by them but I’m a huge fan. Their tank bag is amazing too.
I use Rhinowalk bags. Inexpensive, waterproof and modular. Lotsa size options as well. I have a z900 Cafe with a small pillion and a sport rack and have no trouble securely mounting these bags to my bike without a proprietary rack system. For street use, they work great for me. I got caught in a downpour and they are definitely waterproof. I cannot comment on off-road ADV bike use, but considering the prices quoted in this video, it's a viable cost-saving option. I hope this helps someone.
@@Boris-sc7pt I don't use any base, just a towel and strap the bags to the seat (tail) and rack. I use a 30L, with one 10L on top of it (they connect to each other with straps) and another 10L strapped to the sport rack.
I've been using the Rhinowalk medium saddle bags for offroad ADV on my DR650. They are great for the price. So far they have performed amazingly well. Having said that, the quality is miles away from mosko (as well as the price). While the bags are fine, Rhinowalk's straps feels very thin and cheap. I am pretty sure they will end up breaking. I've found that the best balance are the Tusk. I own the traverse panniers, a 30l duffel and a tank bag and they really are much better quality than Rhinowalk without breaking the bank.
@enriquejaimes3368 yea I lost three straps on my Rhinowalk tailbag I had on my G310GS. Cost of replacing them is more than the bag was worth so I just cut my losses and tied it down with Rok Straps from that point on.
Literally just bought Mosko backcountry 35 panniers on their Black Friday sale. Between the awful exchange rate, Canadian markups, and taxes, I took a midweek road trip to Portland, saved like 750$. They make incredible gear, worth the $$
I am LITERALLY going out to buy saddlebags tomorrow, so this video was spookily perfect timing... Except that I live in India and probably can't find any of these brands here and even if I did, your first-world definition of "cheap" is my definition of expensive. But hey, I'm still watching.
@@yamaha-rb9tk I had a harbor feright box on mine for a while and loved it but then the airtight valve wasnt working right and my registration turned pink from mold as well as the gloves I had in it, then I wrecked going 55 and it broke off anyway lol
Never underestimate the power of waterproofing spray. I bought some SW Motech stuff in a sale when I was a new rider 6 years ago. I didn’t realise it wasn’t waterproof until it arrived and both the tail bag and tank bag came with water proof liners. That seemed annoying so I used the waterproof spray that you use on clothes. I reapply it twice a year, I’ve literally never had a leak despite hours in torrential rain. If you want water proof water proof you need a dry bag tbh. You can’t relay on any waterproof motorcycle gear that isn’t brand new. Anything you use daily or often will spring a leak in the end and you’ll find out when it’s raining heaviest. Rubberised roll tops are best. But tbh you can probably avoid spending a lot of money and use what you have. I have a cheap Amazon motorcycle back pack I use for commuting. It’s made more than waterproof enough by a cheap Amazon back pack rain cover and a cargo net on the back seat. I’m not saying water proof gear is a waste of money, it’s just that if you ride in rain a lot you realise cheap hacks are actually often better than that storm proof do it all thousand dollar gear. I’ve never spring a leak on the SW Motech gear, but I always put my cloths inside a carrier bag if it’s a rainy day because it’s just common sense, and you know what? I still did the same with my old kreiga. Which was good because it sprung a leak after 2.5 years. Incidentally that could be fixed with a bicycle puncture repair kit lol. Look at it this way - we buy adventure suits with water proof liners and such, but when it’s actually a rainy day that’s stupid, you just put the $100 rain overalls over the top and get to work with bone dry gear not a soggy adventure suit to hang somewhere
What is your opinion on this big tail bag, having owned SW Motech gear: ION L tail bag 50 l. Black. 600D Polyester / Soft-Vinyl. Art. No.: BC.HTA.00.203.10000 $226.95 on sale at $140.00 TH-cam doesn't allow links, but it's right on the website. It's on sale because it's discontinued. I like it… the simplicity, the color, the lack of logos, the price now that it's on sale. I have a CB 500 X and this is just going to be for carrying stuff around, not necessarily for any big trips. Any red flags, in your estimation? thanks
@@timothywhieldon1971 True the The Videos seems to loose its essence and charm without Ryan. And the presentation also takes a huge hit. The content is just not captivating enough now
@@AthifKhan Ryan's videos were about epic things, like 3 wheeled deathtraps, the rune, riding dark side, how HD sucks... amazing off the beaten track content with an amazing flare for style and life and comedy. this is just mediocre motorcycle gear reviews and the channel seems to be grasping at whatever they think might be cool at the time vs making something amazing.
Mosko bags all day long. Fantastic design and customer service. It’s been years since I’ve bought product(s) from them- they keep performing as stated. I sold a VStrom stocked w/Mosko. Talk about replies w/no haggle.
Wolfman saddle bags are the best! I have been using mine since 2016. Many crashes and broken limbs later they still work perfectly. I wouldn’t even consider any other bags
Awesome review and some interesting options. I'd just ordered the Mosko Reckless 80 yesterday and I really can appreciate that your top recommendation is one you don't sell. Speaks to this channels integrity
My only issue with most of the bags reviewed is that they mount very high - which is (usually) necessary if you want to go 'rackless'. However, if you are willing to put racks on your bike I think getting the weight down lower is a real benefit to off road handling. I have been using a pair of adventure spec Magadan's for years now and really like them - similar features to the Mosko moto's, but they mount much lower. Great video as always - love it when ever a new Fort9 vid pops up! Kudo's to you guys for not just selling what you sell, but actually reviewing all kinds of products. Very Canadian of you!
Meh, I think that depends on your specific kind of "off roading", for stoney deserts, sure. For the ruts, ponds, and mud that we have around most of Western Europe, not really, I want my stuff well above the intake, so even if I sink the bike, my spare socks stay dry.
Agreed, these solutions leave the weight up high. I've been after a set of the old MK2 Magadan panniers for some time, very rarely do any come up for sale.
I LOVE how your bags have dirt on them. I never thought to check another reviewers stuff before but that dirt shows that you actually used these things. 45 FOR PRESIDENT!
I had the Mosko Rekless 40L 3.0 and returned it and kept the Kreiga OS. The amount of fiddeling that's required with the Mosko is worth 4 sets of Kriega IMO. The Mosko 40L side bags are very narrow. And so much weight and straps.
Cant agree enough, Mosko is too intense, Kriega is simple and so so functional and honestly sits better than the Mosko over bumpy terrain, the Mosk flaps but the Mosko is rock solid.
I've been using Mosko bags for years and they've held up incredibly well. Currently run the Kriega OS for day rides and a Mosko Reckless 80 for longer trips. Love both systems.
Rocky Mountain ATVMC also make the Tusk Highland X2 bags which are the best budget friendly option in my opinion. They're similar to the Musko Moto at half the price. I've done the Wyoming BDR with them, and ridden from South Dakota to Florida and back with them and it's a great system. With the large duffel bag and the 4 added 2L bags, you can get upwards of 90 liters of space. And the duffel bag comes off with just a couple clips so having all your clothes in that bag is handy for taking it into the tent or hotel room.
I can't be the only one thinking $1200 for saddlebags is insane, right?!? The current 'ADV' trend must be making a new billionaire every week now, it's the new crypto. Sell your mining rigs and start making ADV accessories! :D
The good thing about kriega, and why I went for it is I can use a single bag as a daily comuter as a "backpack" to go to university when I installed the shoulder strap. Attach it to the bike without the base just the lops and ready to go no luggage straped to me. And as an extra I can use it as a system with another bag to go adv riding on weekends.
I appreciate the frank assessment of some of the most popular bag options...but I also feel like you're leaving out some pretty important points, at least when it comes to the Giant Loop Coyote. Admittedly, as a GL ambassador I probably have more time with the Coyote than you were able to spend with it before making this video...so in the spirit of fairness I just feel like it bears mentioning that 1. All Giant Loop products have a lifetime warranty. You mention the 10 year warranty on another company's product but left this out when talking about Giant Loop. 2. Yes the Coyote is not 100% waterproof on it's own but as you mentioned GL includes the dry bags and I've used the bags in all kinds of weather and you'd literally have to submerge them to get them to leak. 95% of users will never see a drop of water inside their bag even without the dry pods. 3. Your pricing is off or at least not up to date. In the US, the GL Coyote is $469 and the Mosko Rackless 40 is $800 when ordering directly from the manufacturer. 4. The orange is not for everybody, but it also comes in black. 😂 5. The bag in this video is the non-updated version. They've made some changes in the last year. You mention the updated Mosko but compared it to the old version of the Coyote. 6. The Coyote weighs less than 5 lbs. Not so for the other setups mentioned. Yes I'm biased...but I also have 1000's of miles on the Coyote and have tons of viewers who bought it on my recommendation and have been very happy with it. They do look like a pair of waders when opened up and empty. I'll give you that.
I have Mosko paniers and have to say I was blown away with the details that make using and evening mounting it super easy. Also their customer support is amazing. When I will change the bike I will definitely go with Mosko again.
I have their OG tank bag "Nomad" before they changed the name to "Nomax". I've been dying to get the newest version but I can't justify it because their old one is still going strong all these years. Their Pannier system is having the same problem, quality so good you can't justify new because they're still holding up strong years later. Haha
@@ralpho4942 it's built how they used to make things back in the day that were intended to outlast the user. I wish more companies would transition back to a well built and repair manufacturing instead of cheaply and easy replacement.
I recently trimmed a lot of my TH-cam subscriptions, and FortNine was the only surviving motorcycle channel. I'm probably going to trim some more, but FortNine isn't going anywhere. Keep up the great work yall.
I went with rigid storage from Happy Trails and still love them after 15+ years. Requires a rack but the rack offers good bike protection when the side cases are off (which is most of the time). Almost like a rear crash bar. Hard mounted the trunk and wired it up for admore lighting as well as internal power for usb charging; perfect size for storing my helmet. Completely waterproof, been through many crashes with minimal damage (plus repairable by welding if damaged), and can strap on soft luggage if more space is needed. Plus, zero brand logos so I don't look like an advertisement rolling down the road. Heavier but insanely practical.
Recommending a $1200 product that you don't even sell is ballsy, especially after demonstrating how to make your own storage solution for cheap from scrap. But I appreciate that both ends of this were covered, and I appreciate the honesty enough that if you're going to recommend expensive bags you were willing to mention the ones you can't even sell. Love that everything is getting covered.
I just bought the Rackless 40 3.0 this spring, by coincidence. I’ve never heard of Mosko before (europe). I’ve seen them on a big international motorcycle fair/convention. I’ve seen the rackless there and bought it on the spot (well, next day I came again to the fair). I just found it so well thought out on their demo bike. I used it this summer for 3 holidays and just love it, on every trip my packing of it got more refined and optimized.
Jumping in to endorse Mosko Moto bags. They are worth every penny, their construction is top notch and the support from the Mosko Moto team is superb. I have them strapped over my KTM 690 and have ridden the Washington/Oregon BDR for the last 2 years with these bags. I use a hood tank bag here in the Seattle area for my daily commute and it shakes off every drop. For little day rides I swap to a pica bag to carry my phone, keys and multi too.
I like my Dryspec D20. They're inexpensive, waterproof enough (I've tested them in storms), have a semi-rigid piece to hold their shape when half full and have about 40L of storage. I did have to make my own mounting rig out of nylon webbing and rok straps.
What I liked about this video is that it was a straightforward review, without any overproduction gimmicks. Don't get me wrong, I love the fantastic production quality of F9 vids, all the scenery, great action shots, slick dialogue, but for this sort of product review video, a simpler style is perfect.
After going through numerous different including hard boxes, soft pannier, rackless, and duffles "systems", which I bought with my own money. The Mosko Moto 35L Backcountry are my winners. Warning: They are NOT cheap. All of the losing bags were resold or traded away to friends. These bags have been used for a few years now on my ADV (which I have dropped often) and street bikes. People have commented that they still look brand new. Buy once, cry once.
I’m a fan of Mosko clothing apparel. I have several of their clothing items (Basilisk, Rak, Woodsman, Ectotherm, and Jackaloft). So far the Wildcat backpack is my only piece of Mosko luggage. I struggle pulling the trigger on the Reckless 40/80 due to their empty weight. I can fit a lot of gear in my GL Coyote before its weight matches the empty weight of the Mosko stuff. I love overbuilt bomb proof gear, but on a bike weight is an important decision to consider. Oh, the GL Coyote is nearly bomb proof too.
I am running the coyote as well and truly if you think about it, they are very similar designs, minus the ass ton of molle mosko adds to every exterior, I've found the taurpilin material of the GL to be nearly indestructible
Definitely like their clothing although the woodsman pant combined with the workhorse jersey left me begging for cooler climates this summer on the IDBDR. Works great in everything below 80F but above that they had me sweating like crazy.
If you don’t have the money for the mosko moto pack, try the alternative from 21 Brothers. I bought them for a two months off-road trip around east Europe and I love them. They’re a lot simpler than the mosko moto ones but I can tell you they can take a beating. I’ve fallen multible times off-road and even once at 50km/h on the road. Only scratches and the outer pocket got scuffed. The inner bag is still 100% waterproof.
had a few rackless set ups , the rack/bag combo is just soo much easier to use by every measure , Tusk Olympus for the $ hands down best ive used or even seen anyone else use , i tried to talk myself into the way sexier Mosko Moto or Giant Loop rack/soft bag set up but they are both over 3X the cost , ive seen them in person touched them i dont know how they could be 3X better
Not all bikes can accept a rack - like my 501. That being said, I just sold my Mosko 40(way too small to be practical for anything other than a weekend trip) and will be replacing with a Tusk 80 unit.
For ADV rides, I have had the SW Motech 70L drybag for 2 years and it has been flawless. Work computer and groceries on the weekdays, or load it up on the weekend.
Did ammo cans on my 2007 KLR and they were great! Kept them high so I had to modify the rear directionals by removing the extension piece and swapping it out with threaded rod I drilled out to accommodate the wiring. Best mod I did on that bike!
Once again a thoughtful and well done review. 24 countries so far with 21 of those being 2up. The security and durability of locking metal side bags (Jesse) has kept our gear and electronics safe and . I can see the advantages of soft bags but the physical security and durablity of metal bags provides us some distinct and unique advantages. We still strap a small Ortlieb Duffel with the waterproof T-zip closure on the tail rack surrounded by a PacSafe Anti-Theft Backpack & Bag Protector and lock that to the bike. With metal bags you know exactly how much room you have to split lanes in busy cities because the bike's width never changes and you don't have to monitor loose straps. I am a tank bag user and really like my Enduristan Sandstorm Tank Bag, (and their accessory bits). W carrying a spare map sleeve in one of the saddlebags as a document case, as well as, an extra clip and strap. Nothing is more useless than a tank bag that has lost its ability to remain attached to your tank.
I bought a Nemunu u-bag, made in-shop in Lithuania.. While the euro exchange was so depressed, it cost about 1/4 of a giant loop.. Love it so far, along with the extra $600 I saved!
I've got Mosko's rack-mounted Back Country panniers on my 890... 0 issues after 6,000+ miles, hitting terrain on the northern CO BDR and many miles of double track and fire roads. They've been dragged through sand, gravel and mud, brushed against rock walls in tight trails... hell I don't even hesitate to get 2-3 feet of air with them fully loaded!
Dude, I only buy Mosko Moto luggage. It costs several fortunes, but is 100% worth it. Not just the quality and functionality of the gear, but their service is second to none.
@@russetwolf13 Which a $40 pair of mad doggs do. These are silly over priced to me. Calling $200 cloth bags "Cheap" is such a slap in the face and detached from reality. This video is the definition of pretending to care to sell over priced stock that's sitting around gaining dust after black friday
@@jimtitt3571 you sound like every guy who spent too much on an adventure bike. I race a class motocross and would absolutely stomp you on anything. If im trail riding, its single track or hard enduro. Everything else is too boring and too likely to get smoked by a sxs. You probably thinking riding down 2 tracks is "gnarly"
That's my exact subway order for the last 10 years... with tomato, olive, red onions, mayo, salt, pepper, oil, and vinegar. I'm still planning to do the ammo boxes on my tc185. I got some 50cal cans, but snow just dropped, so my bike is winterized until May or June.
While Ryan is a better presenter, it took him years of practice to get there, and he’s only one man. These videos are better than what Ryan put out so early in his career, I’m excited to see what the clones make in the future. Plus, it frees up Ryan from talking about gear to making higher production value videos, where his presenting talents are better utilised. Discouraging new presenters because they don’t yet live up to the absolute GOAT of motorcycle videographers is shortsighted.
I own the Reckless 80 v3.0 and it's quite possibly the most well built piece of luggage I've ever owned. It's nearly perfect. The bag almost withstood a 70mph slide down the asphalt in Montana, but it did break through both the shell and liner. I only had some minor damage to the contents. Their warranty is beyond and above others.
I got a GL Coyote saddle bag since about 2015. Actually my profile picture shows my set-up 2016 in Honduras. Much use and abuse and practically indestructible. And will be used now on an 890 for a long trip around the southern part of South America. I do like the simplicity of the concept and the minimalistice style. And I trust the quality. A friend just used a mosko rackless 80 for a several weeks trip enduro trip and is totally convinced about usability and quality. Any good rackless system is by defintion superior in offroad conditions.
I have the reckless 80 and the small boy, amazing bags, they do NOT let water in and they're very tough. Also, if you do mess one up, you can take it to a seamstress and they can fix it up so nobody knows what you did. Even after a hard hit, the bags still didn't leak, didn't fall apart and lasted the rest of the trip.
$270 for the Nelson-Rigg Hurricane bags. They're huge, they keep everything dry, have an external pocket for fuel or water bottles, plenty durable as long as you're not throwing your bike down rock slides on the regular. And Nelson-Rigg is a good company to work with. My set was missing a double-D ring for the straps when I got it. I contacted them and they sent me a whole extra strap set. You're gonna want some hardware to support them, though. I bought Givi mounting brackets so I can upgrade to panniers later if I want to.
I love the look of my 2nd generation Bandit 1200 S and I would never ruin it plastic hard luggage. To that end, I opted for the Kriega US. US means Universal System and that's exactly what it is. Only 4 small nylon loops and visible and I can strap on any combination from the 20l bag all the way up to the 40l bag and all the bags connect to each other. For my daily commute, I just use my 20l with the shoulder strap that it came with. There is also an optional universal tank bag adapter, but it has to be partially removed to fill the tank. Thanks for the detailed review Clone 45 and RF9.
From what I heard from multiple people on the IDBDR last summer, their Mosko moto bags are constantly having issues and customer service is sub standard. Pair that with being incredibly expensive and weighs more than most other saddlebag systems, I’m very glad I went with Kriega. They’ve withstood multiple falls with no damage, are some of the lightest in the industry, and price point makes them the best IMHO. Downside is I do really like the additional pockets and options Mosko has built in to their system that makes storage more convenient.
Glad someone else said it… I’ve thrashed my Kriegas on my Africa Twin more times than I’d care to admit and they’re still perfect. I’ve owned a variety of Mosko products as well and they’ve all been either returned, or re-sold, with the exception of the tool roll, which was of course incredibly over priced and named with a weed reference (seriously, why though….?). I love F9 videos, but this was nothing more than a well produced 8 minute advertisement, that mosko inevitably paid for.
The Mosko gear is great. I borrowed the Reckless 40 for an 8 day adventure last year and had no complaints, other than I could have used a tad more capacity. When I decided to make a purchase however, I went with the Tusk Highland X2 w/small duffle for $460. A lot easier on the wallet and I believe you get most of the features/performance/durability of the Mosko kits.
And here I am driving around on my 50cc scooter with an Ortlieb pannier mounted on each side. Since I couldn't find a commercial rack for the scooter to mount the panniers I made my own out of a threaded rod. It worked good so far. With a duffle bag at the bag there is enough space for a long trip. Of course it looks a bit silly but it works.
I mounted two 20mm m548 ammo cans to my bike, holds 33L of air-tight and armored storage each. Cost me $150 to build Only downside is it weighs 50lbs dry.
I used to have Mosko Backcountry's for my F800GS, they were incredible and I love Mosko's gear. When I went to the Husky 701 I had to rethink my bags. I ALMOST bought this very Reckless system. The dealbreaker was that the Husky has a fuel cap in the back, and the saddle portion that holds the bags covers it up so I'd have to remove them every time I refuel. Enter Tusk. I don't want to say the Tusk Highlander x2 set is a Mosko copy... but someone was certainly paying attention... In my hands, having owned Mosko gear, there is very little difference except for color, but the BIG feature is that the saddle over the top has a space in it to access the gas cap on the back of the Husky. So if I have a tail back strapped into the beavertail I just have to undo 1 clip and flip it up out of the way instead of loosening or removing the whole set, OR mounting it in such an awkward spot that I get 1" of seat space or it hangs off the rear fender. It's a big feature Mosko missed there, and I wish they would add it. But for you Husky 701/KTM 690/GASGAS 700 owners with a rear fuel cap, Tusk has your answer. No regrets on mine whatsoever. I even bought their Olympus tank bag because I liked the other product so much.
My Mosko Moto Reckless 80L is one of the best gear i have bought. Well worth the money. Yes it is really expensive, luckily i got it slightly used for about 450$.
Watching a video about saddle bags reminds me that decades ago I had a friend who used a horse saddle for the seat on his Harley Davidson. And it looked good on it.😊
I made a saddle roll like Bronson (Then Came Bronson). It is oiled canvas with thin wooden slats for rigidity. Everything inside is packed in waterproof bags, the kind with a valve so everything soft can be compressed and strapped tight. Bronson seems to have influenced my life of motorcycling.
for around $800 cad I got a 57 litre Givi Monokey for my R1200RT. It's $2000 less than what BMW wanted for theirs ! and bigger. I recommend it strongly
For what it's worth, the cheeky bastard really did expense that footlong. ~RF9
And on such a mid tier sandwich. For shame.
I was half expecting the sub to be the end of #45 with all that coughing and choking.
The stylish font makes some hard to read
@@NateMcQuade In the next vid, 46 will extract a balled-up expense slip from 45's gullet.
"cheeky bastard" - his days are "numbered" .
FortNine videos used to be a rare treat, and now they are arriving at wonderfully regular intervals. I love it.
But less ryan
Is he fired?????
Hopefully not
@@tvexpert_xd2388 no Ryan just makes the longer documentary style videos so it takes longer for him to churn one out, 45 is here to help make more videos for the channel
@@tvexpert_xd2388 No, Ryan just hired a second person so they could churn out more videos. Ryan still shows up in his own videos sometimes. :)
Coming up with ideas, scripts, research, filming, editing etc takes time. Doing it all alone is not possible for anyone when channels get larger.
@@thathitauliagibran242045? what happened to 44? when did he die?
And Ryan is being replaced by clones that are both as funny and knowledgeable. Sucks to be Ryan.
"Universal mounting system, which means no matter what kind of bike you have it won't be perfect"- the most honest statement ever. Thx.
Or in clothing terminology, 'One size fits none.'
The fact you guys will recommend products you don’t sell is a rare piece of honesty. I happen to own/have owned everything shown here and I can’t find anything to disagree with.
They hardly make any gear videos any more, they’ve relinquished that role to Revzilla, so they’ve got the freedom they always wanted but much less budget for regularly intervaled videos
This could still be an ad, right?
@@1gorSouz4 paid for by Mosko? I doubt it.
@@1gorSouz4 Just judging by the wording and the weird arguments for the new version - yes there is a chance.
And we shouldnt forget that it's extremely pricey for beeing made out of extremely inexpensive truck tarp, that is sewn and welded/glued. none of those processes are expensive, none of the materials are either.
@@1gorSouz4 It would leave them open to all sorts of legal problems if it were an ad. TH-camrs in the USA and Canada have to tell the viewers when there is sponsored content.
Got to say. I was sceptical at first. When a successful concept brings in new people it's very common for it to be ruined. But 45 and all before him is a brilliant addition to the F9 team. He captures the feel of the "show" perfectly and it's even elevated it to a new level with the dynamic between you two. Well done.
could feel that he was getting used to the job in his early videos, but now that he's all warmed up, he's been a fantastic watch every time.
He good but if they fuck with Ryan I'm not watching the channel anymore
It has taken 45 revisions to get to this point. How much of our spend at FortNine is going to this R&D? The jump in quality between 43 and 45 seems to indicate they have made some major progress with the system though.
He was given a number so he could be easily disposed of
I wasnt shure about 4x in his first apperance. I liked him by his second cameo. Now i cant imagine F9 without him, such an awesome team, really good videos, keep it up.
Same with the bicycle guy, imo, it's cool to see more videos, and still high quality content, just not always documentaries like Ryan seems to like to make
I love that you future-proofed your comment
@@hugosales8102I'd be happy to not see the bicycle guy again.
@@Hugatree4meI thought it was a typo 😂
@MyName-sx3mr you could be happy watching something else but you'll probably complain about whatever else you watch too
I own the Mosko panniers and love them. I’ve used the warranty twice and had them repaired at no charge, I drop my 1090 a lot. Great company with great customer service
for twelve hundred fkin bucks they better have good customer service
Keep them coming 45. We are accepting you!
He will be replaced by 46 soon, thanks for your hard work 45 😂
Another Mosko Moto fan here. Tested on a few weeks trip around Europe. After a full year of heavy usage and 15k miles done I can confirm: It's great!
Yep I agree about Mosko Moto. Their products are genius. So much attention to detail and they stand by their products. Their customer support is second to none as well. I’m not sponsored by them but I’m a huge fan. Their tank bag is amazing too.
I use Rhinowalk bags. Inexpensive, waterproof and modular. Lotsa size options as well. I have a z900 Cafe with a small pillion and a sport rack and have no trouble securely mounting these bags to my bike without a proprietary rack system. For street use, they work great for me. I got caught in a downpour and they are definitely waterproof. I cannot comment on off-road ADV bike use, but considering the prices quoted in this video, it's a viable cost-saving option. I hope this helps someone.
Which bags out of their lineup do you use? And do you use that universal saddle base as well?
@@Boris-sc7pt I don't use any base, just a towel and strap the bags to the seat (tail) and rack. I use a 30L, with one 10L on top of it (they connect to each other with straps) and another 10L strapped to the sport rack.
I've been using the Rhinowalk medium saddle bags for offroad ADV on my DR650. They are great for the price. So far they have performed amazingly well. Having said that, the quality is miles away from mosko (as well as the price). While the bags are fine, Rhinowalk's straps feels very thin and cheap. I am pretty sure they will end up breaking.
I've found that the best balance are the Tusk. I own the traverse panniers, a 30l duffel and a tank bag and they really are much better quality than Rhinowalk without breaking the bank.
@enriquejaimes3368 yea I lost three straps on my Rhinowalk tailbag I had on my G310GS. Cost of replacing them is more than the bag was worth so I just cut my losses and tied it down with Rok Straps from that point on.
Same, I have them for both motorcycle and bicycle, and they're tough as hell and 100% waterproof, and if I wreck one they're like $50 to $100.
Literally just bought Mosko backcountry 35 panniers on their Black Friday sale. Between the awful exchange rate, Canadian markups, and taxes, I took a midweek road trip to Portland, saved like 750$. They make incredible gear, worth the $$
Where did you go in Portland?
I am LITERALLY going out to buy saddlebags tomorrow, so this video was spookily perfect timing... Except that I live in India and probably can't find any of these brands here and even if I did, your first-world definition of "cheap" is my definition of expensive.
But hey, I'm still watching.
Took an aftermarket pelican case and bolted to the back of my xt and its perfect.
Tough, light, waterproof, lockable, and cheap.
Which model pelican case?
@@MattRhodes_Music it was the copy cat brand that harbor freight sales. Had it for almost a year, no leaks and no plastic fade from sunlight
@@yamaha-rb9tk I had a harbor feright box on mine for a while and loved it but then the airtight valve wasnt working right and my registration turned pink from mold as well as the gloves I had in it, then I wrecked going 55 and it broke off anyway lol
Never underestimate the power of waterproofing spray. I bought some SW Motech stuff in a sale when I was a new rider 6 years ago. I didn’t realise it wasn’t waterproof until it arrived and both the tail bag and tank bag came with water proof liners. That seemed annoying so I used the waterproof spray that you use on clothes. I reapply it twice a year, I’ve literally never had a leak despite hours in torrential rain.
If you want water proof water proof you need a dry bag tbh. You can’t relay on any waterproof motorcycle gear that isn’t brand new. Anything you use daily or often will spring a leak in the end and you’ll find out when it’s raining heaviest. Rubberised roll tops are best. But tbh you can probably avoid spending a lot of money and use what you have. I have a cheap Amazon motorcycle back pack I use for commuting. It’s made more than waterproof enough by a cheap Amazon back pack rain cover and a cargo net on the back seat.
I’m not saying water proof gear is a waste of money, it’s just that if you ride in rain a lot you realise cheap hacks are actually often better than that storm proof do it all thousand dollar gear. I’ve never spring a leak on the SW Motech gear, but I always put my cloths inside a carrier bag if it’s a rainy day because it’s just common sense, and you know what? I still did the same with my old kreiga. Which was good because it sprung a leak after 2.5 years. Incidentally that could be fixed with a bicycle puncture repair kit lol.
Look at it this way - we buy adventure suits with water proof liners and such, but when it’s actually a rainy day that’s stupid, you just put the $100 rain overalls over the top and get to work with bone dry gear not a soggy adventure suit to hang somewhere
The cheapest solution is to stop riding in the rain. Duh!
Yeah, gotta agree on the point about waterproof suits. A cheap rain jacket from K-Mart works really well.
What is your opinion on this big tail bag, having owned SW Motech gear:
ION L tail bag 50 l. Black.
600D Polyester / Soft-Vinyl.
Art. No.: BC.HTA.00.203.10000
$226.95 on sale at $140.00
TH-cam doesn't allow links, but it's right on the website.
It's on sale because it's discontinued.
I like it… the simplicity, the color, the lack of logos, the price now that it's on sale.
I have a CB 500 X and this is just going to be for carrying stuff around, not necessarily for any big trips.
Any red flags, in your estimation? thanks
also, can I ask you to recommend what waterproof spray you like for your Motech bags? Thanks again
The quality of these videos keeps getting better. Amazing work.
i disagree, they keep getting worse.
@@timothywhieldon1971 True the The Videos seems to loose its essence and charm without Ryan. And the presentation also takes a huge hit. The content is just not captivating enough now
@@AthifKhan Ryan's videos were about epic things, like 3 wheeled deathtraps, the rune, riding dark side, how HD sucks... amazing off the beaten track content with an amazing flare for style and life and comedy. this is just mediocre motorcycle gear reviews and the channel seems to be grasping at whatever they think might be cool at the time vs making something amazing.
Only Fortnine will take the fact that they don't sell something and say it's a good thing. Love your commitment to honesty. Love 45's videos as well!
Mosko bags all day long. Fantastic design and customer service. It’s been years since I’ve bought product(s) from them- they keep performing as stated.
I sold a VStrom stocked w/Mosko. Talk about replies w/no haggle.
Wolfman saddle bags are the best! I have been using mine since 2016. Many crashes and broken limbs later they still work perfectly. I wouldn’t even consider any other bags
Yes, Wolfman is a terrific, high quality product. Also, if you care, made in the USA.
Awesome review and some interesting options. I'd just ordered the Mosko Reckless 80 yesterday and I really can appreciate that your top recommendation is one you don't sell. Speaks to this channels integrity
My only issue with most of the bags reviewed is that they mount very high - which is (usually) necessary if you want to go 'rackless'. However, if you are willing to put racks on your bike I think getting the weight down lower is a real benefit to off road handling. I have been using a pair of adventure spec Magadan's for years now and really like them - similar features to the Mosko moto's, but they mount much lower. Great video as always - love it when ever a new Fort9 vid pops up! Kudo's to you guys for not just selling what you sell, but actually reviewing all kinds of products. Very Canadian of you!
Meh, I think that depends on your specific kind of "off roading", for stoney deserts, sure. For the ruts, ponds, and mud that we have around most of Western Europe, not really, I want my stuff well above the intake, so even if I sink the bike, my spare socks stay dry.
Agreed, these solutions leave the weight up high. I've been after a set of the old MK2 Magadan panniers for some time, very rarely do any come up for sale.
I LOVE how your bags have dirt on them. I never thought to check another reviewers stuff before but that dirt shows that you actually used these things. 45 FOR PRESIDENT!
I had the Mosko Rekless 40L 3.0 and returned it and kept the Kreiga OS. The amount of fiddeling that's required with the Mosko is worth 4 sets of Kriega IMO. The Mosko 40L side bags are very narrow. And so much weight and straps.
Cant agree enough, Mosko is too intense, Kriega is simple and so so functional and honestly sits better than the Mosko over bumpy terrain, the Mosk flaps but the Mosko is rock solid.
As a video guy, I immediately recognised the Pro-Mist Filter and I absolutely love the Vibe it creates. Awesome shots, dude behind the camera.
45 is an awesome agent. Love watching these episodes!
I've been using Mosko bags for years and they've held up incredibly well. Currently run the Kriega OS for day rides and a Mosko Reckless 80 for longer trips. Love both systems.
Rocky Mountain ATVMC also make the Tusk Highland X2 bags which are the best budget friendly option in my opinion. They're similar to the Musko Moto at half the price. I've done the Wyoming BDR with them, and ridden from South Dakota to Florida and back with them and it's a great system. With the large duffel bag and the 4 added 2L bags, you can get upwards of 90 liters of space. And the duffel bag comes off with just a couple clips so having all your clothes in that bag is handy for taking it into the tent or hotel room.
Yep. Just go with Tusk. I can attest to the durability of DrySpec bags. Not insanely expensive.
Totally agree, maybe not as good but a quarter of the price.
I can't be the only one thinking $1200 for saddlebags is insane, right?!?
The current 'ADV' trend must be making a new billionaire every week now, it's the new crypto. Sell your mining rigs and start making ADV accessories! :D
I've had the Pilot for a couple years and 30k km, I can also recommend Tusk.
Those Adventure Spec pants that Ryan wears, (ADV approved) $600!!!! lol for...pants! @@raoulrr
If only the Internet could benefit from this level of honesty on other topics. Bravo F9!
The good thing about kriega, and why I went for it is I can use a single bag as a daily comuter as a "backpack" to go to university when I installed the shoulder strap.
Attach it to the bike without the base just the lops and ready to go no luggage straped to me.
And as an extra I can use it as a system with another bag to go adv riding on weekends.
I appreciate the frank assessment of some of the most popular bag options...but I also feel like you're leaving out some pretty important points, at least when it comes to the Giant Loop Coyote.
Admittedly, as a GL ambassador I probably have more time with the Coyote than you were able to spend with it before making this video...so in the spirit of fairness I just feel like it bears mentioning that
1. All Giant Loop products have a lifetime warranty. You mention the 10 year warranty on another company's product but left this out when talking about Giant Loop.
2. Yes the Coyote is not 100% waterproof on it's own but as you mentioned GL includes the dry bags and I've used the bags in all kinds of weather and you'd literally have to submerge them to get them to leak. 95% of users will never see a drop of water inside their bag even without the dry pods.
3. Your pricing is off or at least not up to date. In the US, the GL Coyote is $469 and the Mosko Rackless 40 is $800 when ordering directly from the manufacturer.
4. The orange is not for everybody, but it also comes in black. 😂
5. The bag in this video is the non-updated version. They've made some changes in the last year. You mention the updated Mosko but compared it to the old version of the Coyote.
6. The Coyote weighs less than 5 lbs. Not so for the other setups mentioned.
Yes I'm biased...but I also have 1000's of miles on the Coyote and have tons of viewers who bought it on my recommendation and have been very happy with it.
They do look like a pair of waders when opened up and empty. I'll give you that.
It's also a little weird FortNine is promoting a brand who sells direct to consumer and cuts out dealers and distributors.......
I have Mosko paniers and have to say I was blown away with the details that make using and evening mounting it super easy. Also their customer support is amazing. When I will change the bike I will definitely go with Mosko again.
I have their OG tank bag "Nomad" before they changed the name to "Nomax". I've been dying to get the newest version but I can't justify it because their old one is still going strong all these years. Their Pannier system is having the same problem, quality so good you can't justify new because they're still holding up strong years later. Haha
@@ralpho4942 thats why I want to sell it with my bike :D good to know abou the nomad/x as I was thinking about getting one
@@ralpho4942 it's built how they used to make things back in the day that were intended to outlast the user. I wish more companies would transition back to a well built and repair manufacturing instead of cheaply and easy replacement.
I recently trimmed a lot of my TH-cam subscriptions, and FortNine was the only surviving motorcycle channel. I'm probably going to trim some more, but FortNine isn't going anywhere. Keep up the great work yall.
whoever edits these videos, you sir have insane talent, can't stress that enough.
I think FortNine's in program adds are some of the funniest content of the video, and the only add I don't skip. Love the videos!
You guys make incredible content. Love the hosts, you guys have something really special
I went with rigid storage from Happy Trails and still love them after 15+ years. Requires a rack but the rack offers good bike protection when the side cases are off (which is most of the time). Almost like a rear crash bar. Hard mounted the trunk and wired it up for admore lighting as well as internal power for usb charging; perfect size for storing my helmet. Completely waterproof, been through many crashes with minimal damage (plus repairable by welding if damaged), and can strap on soft luggage if more space is needed. Plus, zero brand logos so I don't look like an advertisement rolling down the road. Heavier but insanely practical.
Got me some $70 AUD ones off ebay, the mounting system was mediocre but worked without pannier racks and the bags themselves are pretty great
You might have to improvise with some Grunt straps from Bunnings.
@@Jonathan-L not even, i think the issue was just with my bike (2008 cbf250) having weird rear fairings
Recommending a $1200 product that you don't even sell is ballsy, especially after demonstrating how to make your own storage solution for cheap from scrap. But I appreciate that both ends of this were covered, and I appreciate the honesty enough that if you're going to recommend expensive bags you were willing to mention the ones you can't even sell. Love that everything is getting covered.
I just bought the Rackless 40 3.0 this spring, by coincidence. I’ve never heard of Mosko before (europe). I’ve seen them on a big international motorcycle fair/convention. I’ve seen the rackless there and bought it on the spot (well, next day I came again to the fair). I just found it so well thought out on their demo bike. I used it this summer for 3 holidays and just love it, on every trip my packing of it got more refined and optimized.
Jumping in to endorse Mosko Moto bags. They are worth every penny, their construction is top notch and the support from the Mosko Moto team is superb. I have them strapped over my KTM 690 and have ridden the Washington/Oregon BDR for the last 2 years with these bags. I use a hood tank bag here in the Seattle area for my daily commute and it shakes off every drop. For little day rides I swap to a pica bag to carry my phone, keys and multi too.
I like my Dryspec D20. They're inexpensive, waterproof enough (I've tested them in storms), have a semi-rigid piece to hold their shape when half full and have about 40L of storage. I did have to make my own mounting rig out of nylon webbing and rok straps.
Spot on! They work with pannier racks too.
What I liked about this video is that it was a straightforward review, without any overproduction gimmicks. Don't get me wrong, I love the fantastic production quality of F9 vids, all the scenery, great action shots, slick dialogue, but for this sort of product review video, a simpler style is perfect.
Love 45! Great video guys, makes workign the weekend a lot better!
After going through numerous different including hard boxes, soft pannier, rackless, and duffles "systems", which I bought with my own money. The Mosko Moto 35L Backcountry are my winners. Warning: They are NOT cheap. All of the losing bags were resold or traded away to friends.
These bags have been used for a few years now on my ADV (which I have dropped often) and street bikes. People have commented that they still look brand new. Buy once, cry once.
I’m a fan of Mosko clothing apparel. I have several of their clothing items (Basilisk, Rak, Woodsman, Ectotherm, and Jackaloft). So far the Wildcat backpack is my only piece of Mosko luggage. I struggle pulling the trigger on the Reckless 40/80 due to their empty weight. I can fit a lot of gear in my GL Coyote before its weight matches the empty weight of the Mosko stuff. I love overbuilt bomb proof gear, but on a bike weight is an important decision to consider. Oh, the GL Coyote is nearly bomb proof too.
I am running the coyote as well and truly if you think about it, they are very similar designs, minus the ass ton of molle mosko adds to every exterior, I've found the taurpilin material of the GL to be nearly indestructible
Definitely like their clothing although the woodsman pant combined with the workhorse jersey left me begging for cooler climates this summer on the IDBDR. Works great in everything below 80F but above that they had me sweating like crazy.
If you don’t have the money for the mosko moto pack, try the alternative from 21 Brothers. I bought them for a two months off-road trip around east Europe and I love them. They’re a lot simpler than the mosko moto ones but I can tell you they can take a beating. I’ve fallen multible times off-road and even once at 50km/h on the road. Only scratches and the outer pocket got scuffed. The inner bag is still 100% waterproof.
had a few rackless set ups , the rack/bag combo is just soo much easier to use by every measure , Tusk Olympus for the $ hands down best ive used or even seen anyone else use , i tried to talk myself into the way sexier Mosko Moto or Giant Loop rack/soft bag set up but they are both over 3X the cost , ive seen them in person touched them i dont know how they could be 3X better
Not all bikes can accept a rack - like my 501. That being said, I just sold my Mosko 40(way too small to be practical for anything other than a weekend trip) and will be replacing with a Tusk 80 unit.
Nelson Rigg for life, affordable with a lifetime warranty. Can't beat it, lots of luggage options
42 seconds since time of upload from FortNine? Say less - clicked, liked, and watched!
Nice
the production on this is next level ...love it!
The only 45 that speaks in coherent sentences. 👍
Mosko gear is indeed the “apex” in every class. Their clothing is outstanding too!
The Tusk bags should have been included in this review.
Agreed. The Highland X2 system is great. Similar to Musko but half the price.
Yep.@@kittenswithketchup
For ADV rides, I have had the SW Motech 70L drybag for 2 years and it has been flawless. Work computer and groceries on the weekdays, or load it up on the weekend.
I’m building my own from ammo cans lol. 100% waterproof and they are custom mounted. It’ll be good enough I hope
I think Ryan or someone did a vid on that a long time ago. Don't remember who, but I'd look it up.👍
Did ammo cans on my 2007 KLR and they were great! Kept them high so I had to modify the rear directionals by removing the extension piece and swapping it out with threaded rod I drilled out to accommodate the wiring. Best mod I did on that bike!
Once again a thoughtful and well done review.
24 countries so far with 21 of those being 2up. The security and durability of locking metal side bags (Jesse) has kept our gear and electronics safe and . I can see the advantages of soft bags but the physical security and durablity of metal bags provides us some distinct and unique advantages. We still strap a small Ortlieb Duffel with the waterproof T-zip closure on the tail rack surrounded by a PacSafe Anti-Theft Backpack & Bag Protector and lock that to the bike. With metal bags you know exactly how much room you have to split lanes in busy cities because the bike's width never changes and you don't have to monitor loose straps.
I am a tank bag user and really like my Enduristan Sandstorm Tank Bag, (and their accessory bits). W carrying a spare map sleeve in one of the saddlebags as a document case, as well as, an extra clip and strap. Nothing is more useless than a tank bag that has lost its ability to remain attached to your tank.
I've been using Rhinowalk bags and i think there's no better value for money at the moment.
I bought a Nemunu u-bag, made in-shop in Lithuania.. While the euro exchange was so depressed, it cost about 1/4 of a giant loop.. Love it so far, along with the extra $600 I saved!
Ryan ? Where u at ? We need you
I've got Mosko's rack-mounted Back Country panniers on my 890... 0 issues after 6,000+ miles, hitting terrain on the northern CO BDR and many miles of double track and fire roads.
They've been dragged through sand, gravel and mud, brushed against rock walls in tight trails... hell I don't even hesitate to get 2-3 feet of air with them fully loaded!
Wait. What happened to 44?
Gore-Tex. ~RF9
Dude, I only buy Mosko Moto luggage. It costs several fortunes, but is 100% worth it. Not just the quality and functionality of the gear, but their service is second to none.
Since when was a $200 saddlebag "affordable"
It isn't even waterproof for that? 0.o
Delusional
I just got a Silverwing and that's how much a set of the original hardcase bags is.
@@russetwolf13 which are better than these, rise the value of the bike, turns heads.. and the key sell point, mostly weather proof.
@@TrueHelpTV they also quick detach with handles so you can pack them like luggage.
@@russetwolf13 Which a $40 pair of mad doggs do. These are silly over priced to me. Calling $200 cloth bags "Cheap" is such a slap in the face and detached from reality. This video is the definition of pretending to care to sell over priced stock that's sitting around gaining dust after black friday
Currently rocking the Kriega trough Africa.
2 reasons for it:
The Price
The Simplicity
They are doing very well
The best saddlebag is a backpack. Change my mind
Well fill it up and go for multiday adventure with camping gear and you'll change not just your mind.
Stuff 30kg of junk in it, including metal objects and try to keep up with me on gnarly terrain. Better get good health and disability insurance first.
All depends on where you go and what you do
@@jimtitt3571 you sound like every guy who spent too much on an adventure bike. I race a class motocross and would absolutely stomp you on anything. If im trail riding, its single track or hard enduro. Everything else is too boring and too likely to get smoked by a sxs. You probably thinking riding down 2 tracks is "gnarly"
Products reviews have never been that fun to watch. Love the musical twist ☺️
This channel is just another motorcycling channel without Ryan, Ryan was what made it special
That's my exact subway order for the last 10 years... with tomato, olive, red onions, mayo, salt, pepper, oil, and vinegar.
I'm still planning to do the ammo boxes on my tc185. I got some 50cal cans, but snow just dropped, so my bike is winterized until May or June.
I've heard that the TC185 motor can be swapped into an RV! Thinking about trying it with mine. ~RF9
Where is Ryan? We want Ryan!
Nah, 44 is great or is it 45? Who can keep track.
45+47=2024!
Get it?
While Ryan is a better presenter, it took him years of practice to get there, and he’s only one man.
These videos are better than what Ryan put out so early in his career, I’m excited to see what the clones make in the future.
Plus, it frees up Ryan from talking about gear to making higher production value videos, where his presenting talents are better utilised.
Discouraging new presenters because they don’t yet live up to the absolute GOAT of motorcycle videographers is shortsighted.
Advertising products you don't sell, these guys are legends
I own the Reckless 80 v3.0 and it's quite possibly the most well built piece of luggage I've ever owned. It's nearly perfect. The bag almost withstood a 70mph slide down the asphalt in Montana, but it did break through both the shell and liner. I only had some minor damage to the contents. Their warranty is beyond and above others.
I got a GL Coyote saddle bag since about 2015. Actually my profile picture shows my set-up 2016 in Honduras.
Much use and abuse and practically indestructible. And will be used now on an 890 for a long trip around the southern part of South America.
I do like the simplicity of the concept and the minimalistice style. And I trust the quality.
A friend just used a mosko rackless 80 for a several weeks trip enduro trip and is totally convinced about usability and quality.
Any good rackless system is by defintion superior in offroad conditions.
I have the reckless 80 and the small boy, amazing bags, they do NOT let water in and they're very tough. Also, if you do mess one up, you can take it to a seamstress and they can fix it up so nobody knows what you did. Even after a hard hit, the bags still didn't leak, didn't fall apart and lasted the rest of the trip.
$270 for the Nelson-Rigg Hurricane bags. They're huge, they keep everything dry, have an external pocket for fuel or water bottles, plenty durable as long as you're not throwing your bike down rock slides on the regular. And Nelson-Rigg is a good company to work with. My set was missing a double-D ring for the straps when I got it. I contacted them and they sent me a whole extra strap set. You're gonna want some hardware to support them, though. I bought Givi mounting brackets so I can upgrade to panniers later if I want to.
"Ootlander"... this tickles me nearly as much as "Firips Japan". Good one F9.
I like that they brought the clone into the videos. Makes for interesting lore for the channel and he presents information well too.
I Love how fortnine Always delivers the kind of topics im intrested in at the moment. Been thinking about saddle baggs for about a week now.
increased the frequency, maintained the production quality. Love it !
I love the look of my 2nd generation Bandit 1200 S and I would never ruin it plastic hard luggage.
To that end, I opted for the Kriega US. US means Universal System and that's exactly what it is. Only 4 small nylon loops and visible and I can strap on any combination from the 20l bag all the way up to the 40l bag and all the bags connect to each other.
For my daily commute, I just use my 20l with the shoulder strap that it came with.
There is also an optional universal tank bag adapter, but it has to be partially removed to fill the tank.
Thanks for the detailed review Clone 45 and RF9.
best youtube channel for sure! Thank you F9 for being here!
From what I heard from multiple people on the IDBDR last summer, their Mosko moto bags are constantly having issues and customer service is sub standard. Pair that with being incredibly expensive and weighs more than most other saddlebag systems, I’m very glad I went with Kriega. They’ve withstood multiple falls with no damage, are some of the lightest in the industry, and price point makes them the best IMHO. Downside is I do really like the additional pockets and options Mosko has built in to their system that makes storage more convenient.
Glad someone else said it… I’ve thrashed my Kriegas on my Africa Twin more times than I’d care to admit and they’re still perfect. I’ve owned a variety of Mosko products as well and they’ve all been either returned, or re-sold, with the exception of the tool roll, which was of course incredibly over priced and named with a weed reference (seriously, why though….?). I love F9 videos, but this was nothing more than a well produced 8 minute advertisement, that mosko inevitably paid for.
The Mosko gear is great. I borrowed the Reckless 40 for an 8 day adventure last year and had no complaints, other than I could have used a tad more capacity. When I decided to make a purchase however, I went with the Tusk Highland X2 w/small duffle for $460. A lot easier on the wallet and I believe you get most of the features/performance/durability of the Mosko kits.
got a mosko moto for my wife and myself.
amazing build quality!
And here I am driving around on my 50cc scooter with an Ortlieb pannier mounted on each side. Since I couldn't find a commercial rack for the scooter to mount the panniers I made my own out of a threaded rod. It worked good so far. With a duffle bag at the bag there is enough space for a long trip. Of course it looks a bit silly but it works.
#45 has got THE PERFECT subway sandwich. Absolute GOAT. I look forward to these videos! Thanks for the entertainment!
I mounted two 20mm m548 ammo cans to my bike, holds 33L of air-tight and armored storage each. Cost me $150 to build Only downside is it weighs 50lbs dry.
#45 videos are like the Borderlands of TH-cam. Underrated, vibrant, great situational music, and an experience you only know if you know.
I used to have Mosko Backcountry's for my F800GS, they were incredible and I love Mosko's gear. When I went to the Husky 701 I had to rethink my bags. I ALMOST bought this very Reckless system. The dealbreaker was that the Husky has a fuel cap in the back, and the saddle portion that holds the bags covers it up so I'd have to remove them every time I refuel. Enter Tusk. I don't want to say the Tusk Highlander x2 set is a Mosko copy... but someone was certainly paying attention... In my hands, having owned Mosko gear, there is very little difference except for color, but the BIG feature is that the saddle over the top has a space in it to access the gas cap on the back of the Husky. So if I have a tail back strapped into the beavertail I just have to undo 1 clip and flip it up out of the way instead of loosening or removing the whole set, OR mounting it in such an awkward spot that I get 1" of seat space or it hangs off the rear fender.
It's a big feature Mosko missed there, and I wish they would add it. But for you Husky 701/KTM 690/GASGAS 700 owners with a rear fuel cap, Tusk has your answer. No regrets on mine whatsoever. I even bought their Olympus tank bag because I liked the other product so much.
My Mosko Moto Reckless 80L is one of the best gear i have bought. Well worth the money.
Yes it is really expensive, luckily i got it slightly used for about 450$.
Classy presentation and straight talk from F9 regarding direct to consumer advantage. Keep it up clone.
Just bought a Reckless 80 yesterday, so was nervous watching this thinking you guys might trash them, haha. Glad they pass the test.
Hah, me too.
Watching a video about saddle bags reminds me that decades ago I had a friend who used a horse saddle for the seat on his Harley Davidson. And it looked good on it.😊
FortNine, thank you. exceptional as usual.
OGIO saddle bags -- best ive had and waterproof and great price!
I made a saddle roll like Bronson (Then Came Bronson). It is oiled canvas with thin wooden slats for rigidity. Everything inside is packed in waterproof bags, the kind with a valve so everything soft can be compressed and strapped tight. Bronson seems to have influenced my life of motorcycling.
Ive had a pair of Andy Strapz roll top canvas bags for 15 years. Water proof, dust proof, Aussie company, well worth it
For me it’s the Nelson Rigg hurricane series. Affordable, waterproof and good quality.
for around $800 cad I got a 57 litre Givi Monokey for my R1200RT. It's $2000 less than what BMW wanted for theirs ! and bigger. I recommend it strongly
Recommending stuff you don't sell... that's some serious boost in trust!
i love my Mosko's had hard boxes on a F800gs and swapped for the BC35s when i bought my 790 and they have been nothing but great.