Ford Gets Tesla Supercharger Access Today! I Test It Out And Explain Why It's Such a Big deal
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- I try out Ford's official NACS to CCS1 adapter and explain how to get one and how to use it.
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
02:02 Jovina Young From Ford Talks about the adapter
06:28 Unboxing Ford's NACS to CCS1 adapter
07:39 Plugginh in with the adapter
14:58 How to order the adapter from Ford
16:23 How did my Lightning charge with the adapter?
19:30 Why this is such a big deal
20:58 Outro
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Kudos to both companies and CEOs for making this happen. This is a win-win.
Tom Im a Tesla owner and an EV fan. Any legacy company willing to transition this fast deserves to survive and do well, I guess Ford more than any other know what you have to do to survive and its a credit to Jim Farley hes first out the gate to take up Teslas offer, you would be a fool not to, Jims no fool, Jims putting the customer first.
Well said. It was a genius strategic move.
Half heartedly agree…what’s the reason they didn’t have the leadership to enable to envision this two decades ago or more, back in the EV 1 timeframe. They all, since the 1960’s, have known this was inevitable, yet they stood idly by and persisted in putting profits first for so long. They could have started building out this network decades ago, and chose not to. Not exactly a glowing endorsement of the company. They couldn’t or didn’t do it themselves, waited for someone else to do it, and then paid $ to piggyback off of someone else’s success. Meh at best. They didn’t even engineer the adapter themselves. No gumption from Ford, just doing what Legacy OEMs do and pay $ to try and not go out of business, again.
@@aaronbounds1336 It wasn't inevitable and it's still not inevitable today. EVs are still just a very small percentage of cars on the road and the growth curve seems to be slowing. Mass adoption may eventually happen, but it's certainly not inevitable.
@aaronbounds1336 The comment below yours says it all. The innovative founder of Ford who thought ahead is long gone. They've been led by pencil pushers for decades now. The mentality below is their mentality. I give Farley a lot of credit for at least staying ahead of other legacy manufacturers, outside of the Kia/Hyundai group.
It was no stroke of genius by Jim Farley. Basically his EV launch face planted on the asphalt because they cynically tried to catch up with Tesla with no plans to build out the CCS charging network as he assumed other under capitalized start ups trying to build their tand alone charging networks. Elon Musk threw them a huge lifeline even though they mocked Tesla. He did open up a fantastic charging network he took the educated risk to build at great expense for his great vision and for the greater good of society.
Props to Tesla and Ford. Thanks for putting customers first. It will help the EV industry overall to grow.
Wouldnt really thank Tesla. Ford and other companies paid a ton for this contract with Tesla
@@andrebillups4079and if Tesla wasn’t there Ford and other companies would be a decade behind. So yeah Tesla is to thank here.
Ford lit a fire under all other car makers because this changes everything. Now if Ford can deliver faster charging, 250kw and solid curve. The truck is really cool
Shouldn't be that hard. My standard range lightning hit 170-160kw for 15 mins straight and then slowly ramps down.
So i just plan 15 mins stops every 2hrs-3hrs of driving and you can drive all day.
Actually it was the CEOs kid who asked him why they can’t just use superchargers while on their road trip.
So thank you kid.
Great video, Tom! Thanks for all your pioneering EV work; you’re a national resource.
Agreed. This was an exceptionally informative video.
A lot of viewers may not be aware of the depth of knowledge that Tom brings to these videos. He has over 10 years of experience with them and used to be a professional EV educator, visiting dealers to help their staff get up to speed with EVs.
Something to think about, higher utilization at Tesla SuperChargers means more revenue, which means funding for the faster deployment of more SuperCharger locations.
😱 O.M.G. You're the first one in the world to think of that!!
Also, means more wear and tear on the Tesla superchargers. Let’s hope they last.
@@shrichaudhary They have to be replaced every 4-5 years anyways
For higher DC fast charging speed.@@ruthwik081
lol exactly! I predict their income from energy delivery will eventually eclipse their income from car sales. They are going to make a fortune over this
“Ford’s done it!” - Glad Ford was the first to sign up and get access to the Tesla Supercharger Network. Sounds like Rivian is next possibly.
Tesla did a great job getting the superchargers updated to support the communication boards. Tesla also built a beefy adapter that exceeds the max charge possible for non-Tesla vehicles.
I don’t believe Tesla made a mistake Tom because if you think about it now, EVgo and Electrify America and ChargePoint, etc. etc. etc. are all adding plugs that will charge his vehicles at an extraordinary amount of locations that he doesn’t currently occupy and that actually some Tesla owners buy adapters so they can utilize. What this will do will help him to be able to focus his money on updating his equipment instead of continuously expanding it and then he’ll be able to expand it on top of that once he has it all updated. He’s ahead of the crowd as usual, and this is just one more step in that same direction. 21:30 #greatvideo‼️
Thankyou Tom.... Most people didn't know what you shared about the companies. All the people who purchased new Tesla's don't realize their purchase price included the expansion and service of the Tesla Supercharging network. And on a true funny fact. Jim Farley's children encouraged him on a road trip in the Lightning to join the Tesla network because they said it always works.
Congrats Tom. I only had confidence to buy my F150 lightning as my first ever EV because of your videos. 13k miles later and love it. I had never even driven an EV when I ordered my F150.
Great video Tom! Really looking forward to the interview tomorrow and glad you have a great relationship with Ford that they waited for you to personally hand you the adapter!
The orientation your charging in will block a charger unless you are on the last charger on the right and there is a vacant spot next to it. charging a lightning will eliminate a charger for someone else this is a big issue when most superchargers only have 8 will cause many fights with impatient people hopefully Tesla will address this with more orientation changes for the newer installations.
I know you are friends with Kyle, but your video is much more informative even though videos are similar length 🙂
Thanks - but you know he'll get 100X more views!😃
Kyle who?
@@NicholasShanksKyle for Out of Specs channel.
The thumbnail said "Ford's Done it".. Let's give Tesla the credit here, they designed and manufactured the adapter and charging network.. Ford signed some paperwork and updated their software.. Tesla's Done it!
You're correct also. The title means Ford's gained access to the best charging network in America and they were able to do it first
It's likely Tesla's software engineers were heavily involved with the updates to Ford's software. I bet they wrote, or at least de-bugged the software on the Ford side. After all, they are the experts on how to talk to the activation process for the chargers...
Thanks for doing this with your vehicle. It’s a real show of confidence by Ford to allow you to roll up in a vehicle that they didn’t prep for the occasion. It’s a “nothing up my sleeve” moment for you and Ford.
8:25 Hey Tom, I just bought my Ford Lightning a few weeks ago and I can confirm that you still get the 250kWh of free charging! Just a tid bit of info for you.
Tom has often expressed his disapproval of the free charging deals. It's a serious issue when it's unlimited free charging for months or years.
But, I think a small amount like this is a great idea. First two or three fast charges for free. Just enough to familiarize yourself with the process and get to know your EV.
@@davidmenasco5743 I have no problem with limited free charging offers like what Ford offers. The unlimited free packages are what drives me crazy
Thank you Tom for supporting and informing us EV operators.
Excellent, and mostly accurate, informative video by a non-Tesla owner. Well done.
From a long time Tesla owner, some items to consider: if there is a normal parking spot available to the right of the Tesla chargers, a non-Tesla vehicle which doesn’t have its charge port on the left rear or right front should always park in that spot and use the charger at the far right, not taking up two charging spots for their visit; you won’t find Tesla charging locations with 13 (or 11, or 9) chargers - the chargers are paired, and thus will always be installed in even numbers.
Elon was criticized for his decision a couple of years ago to unilaterally call the Tesla standard by its new name, the North American charging standard. But, as has happened so many times over the years, he has successfully turned another vision into
a reality.
You would think that at least one of the brilliant engineers at all of the car companies, including Tesla, could figure out that all that is needed to fix the issue with charging port placement is to install longer cables on the Superchargers. Seriously! This isn't that hard!
@@chiplangowski3298 except it is SMDH, a longer cable causes wear issues, handling issues, warranty issues&service.
A longer cooled cable also requires more material to build it increasing costs for every single charger installed to. 😏
@@4literv6exactly, a lot of people has no concept of how chargers work but sound so confident in their opinions
@@khuo0219 well said! The internet has only exacerbated this to the extreme imo. 😐
Tom has also been a Tesla owner.
As a Tesla owner that uses Tesla Superchargers, I wish you had pointed out that because Ford EVs occupy TWO Tesla charging slots because of the location of the charging port on the front driver's side, it's important that Ford EV owners make an effort to using the RIGHT-MOST Tesla charger to maximize the number of vehicles that can charge simultaneously.
No doubt, Tom will make a video, probably multiple videos, focusing on this very issue.
But still, you can expect non-Tesla EVs to be parked in every second space at Superchargers without even realizing there's an issue. It's the American way.
Awesome … had my Tesla universal wall charger installed today based on your videos. -pick up my Mach E tomorrow. My first EV
I am one looking at a new EV and this put Ford on my list. Love their trucks and I know we have a time limit to get one of these adaptors free. Thanks!
If you wait until next year to buy your Ford EV, you will have the connector built-in, no adapter needed!
Ha! After having seen Kyle's video a couple hours ago and he said he was in NJ, I wondered how close you were from each other.
Same spot.
I would have been there with Kyle in the morning, but I was flying home from Sweden
And with the same Ford rep, I knew it had to have been close.
LOL, same supercharger site? That’s pretty close, albeit only in space. In time, they were half a day apart like Tom said re: his flight.
Tom is giving credit where credit is due. Thanks FoMoCo and thanks Tom.
Thanks Tom, good show and tell of the Ford adapter to Tesla SCs. It seems that Ford is one of the big legacy makers that is really working hard to keep their EV customers and make it easier to own, drive and charge them. Good job Ford, keep it up.
Your videos are always so full of great info! Being a Tesla owner I'm just hoping many more charging stations are on the horizon, which I'm sure is the case. Glad to see this happening it will help the ev movement!
Thanks for this Tom! This is great news, finally my Lighting can go anywhere my Model Y can go. Maybe now I can make it to one of your meet ups😂
Incredible, I can’t wait for the race!
Thanks for the Focus Electric mention!!
Great video - thank you!
The next hurdle is the location of the charging port on the vehicle vs the length of the cable and the location of the charging station. Your session shows this issue - your parked in the space next to the one where a Tesla would use that station.
Your video has more information than the others I have seen - simply mentioning the Ford website and needing to order the free adapter, was worth you making this video.
I'm glad I watched to the end. Tom gives so much helpful and detailed info.
Not that I even have a Ford, but I might one day. And I just find Tom's videos very edifying.
Thanks Tom. Reserved mine about an hour after the press release. ETA for mine with no specific date just "May 2024". It will be worth the wait. (F-150 Lightning, also known as Sparky!)
Good Job, Tesla! You guys did good... This is for the greater good.
Everything Tesla does is for the greater good. Wait until Ford joins with Tesla to integrate FSD into all their vehicles. Only 2 years from now....maybe less from what I see happening in my Model Y every day.
Thanks Tom. Im seen EVERY one of your videos. I picked up my Lighning July 2023 and just passed 42K (26k miles) on my Extended range XLT. Ordered my adaptor and currently it says arrival date of September 2024. I cant seem to find any 3rd party adaptors available here in Toronto area. Keep up the great work.
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing
Great video and great review of the Tesla/Ford adapter. I'm looking forward to your test of the aftermarket adapters. Your trip with Kyle should be a lot of fun and very interesting.
Union County New Jersey! 💪🏾
Great video.
Nice!!!! It’s gonna be so much better for charging while camping with my Four Wheel Camper at 1.7 Kw range. Great Video!
Ford never has been a company to offer free assistance they leave you going back to the dealer.
They still don't have a legend on the cover of a fuse panel, granted they give you a number that you have to go to the owners manual. There are to many auto manufacturers out there and the one's still in the running deliver everything that helps owning & maintaining a new vehicle and INFORMATION is number one on my list.
Great coverage on a important subject and glad Ford is stepping up.
Great job, as always, Tom!
Been waiting on you for this. After I saw Kyle OOS and Mach E Vlog and not you I was getting antsy since you are the authority on this topic.
Any discussion amongst car manufacturers about standardization of charging port location ? Obviously this is great for Ford vehicles (I own a Lightning and am very excited) but we also have 2 Teslas and this is going to block a charging location which may be a problem when there are several non-Teslas charging and the location is busy.
It appears that a Tesla could not use the space next to the Ford.
Or Tesla could install longer cables on the Superchargers.
Short answer - no
Great insightful video, Tom! A step in the right direction. What have you heard about Mercedes in regards to the NACS adaptor/usage? Keep doing what you're doing for the EV enthusiasts!!
Great Video!!!! Nicely Done. 👏👏👏👏👏
Glad to see it - anxiously awaiting GM's announcement for my Bolt EUV.
Side note Tom, I can see your truck has been through a spinning brush car wash many times. Those swirls on black paint are brutal! I'd recommend getting paint correction followed by ceramic coating and then going through touchless washes and/or hand washing as needed. Really helps keep the vehicles looking brand new. My EUV still looks near perfect after 18 months.
Yes! I have 0 fast chargers near me and only a couple level 2 ChargePoint so I need for my bolt asap!
Thanks Tom, this is great news!
Thanks, Tom. I'm surprised (and happy) you were able to get 173kW. Sounds like Ford has their act together. Good for them!
Aw, just leaving my 1997 Ford Ranger EV out of the club. lol. ;) Seriously, I give Ford and Jim a lot of credit for this.
Do you really have one?
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney No-no. I am only kidding. :)
Hey Tom, glad you made it back from Sweden bet that was fun and cold! I just returned from a TX to FL trip myself in my Lightning and along the I10 corridor I had to carefully plan my route based on where the level 3 fast chargers were. Some of the locations may be safe during the day but at night they’re a little spooky. I noticed that all the Tesla Superchargers were in bright lighted areas.
I did order my adapter yesterday when I found out and hopefully the next FL trip I’ll do I’ll have my Tesla adapter with me. Now I can go back to Buc’ees, yayyyy😅😅😂😂 cheers
Very cool, thanks Tom!
Great video Tom! 🔋
I am also a Tesla owner and it's great that Tesla give access to other brand. The only thing I am concerning about is the way different brand charging port that take 2 charging station per vehicle while charging. They should made the adapter with a long extension cable so that all vehicle are back in to charge, that way a 12 super charger can charge 12 vehicles not 6. Now on the Tesla app/screen map, the number of available charging station no longer a real number.
Good on Ford! They earned a lot of respect by being first to enable their customers to tie into the Tesla network.
Tom, fantastic video! As an owner of a Polestar, I'm intrigued to hear about your experience with Polestar during your trip to Sweden.
As a new Lightning owner, I am super-stoked about this. Way to get it done, Ford and Tesla!
Great Job Tom!
Solid video and technical explanation.
Thank you!
The best thing about this all is the integration of the Tesla network into Ford's network and making it all work seamlessly (Plug and Charge). It would be a good deal more of a hassle if we had to set up a Tesla account and payment arrangements etc.
Tom, I’m a Nissan Ariya owner and was happy to see Nissan be one of the first legacy Japanese automakers to announce NACS adoption. They will begin with an Adaptor strategy similar to Ford, for those of us with CCS ports on our Ariyas this year (2024) and starting next year (2025) will begin shipping Ariya and other future models with NACS built in. I am excited to have access to a larger more reliable charging network. I think the standardization is a good thing and overall provides a better charging experience for all EV owners over time.
Good stuff Tom!
Great video, Tom. Congrats to Ford and to Tesla! Now I'll have to tell my co-worker that owns a Mustang Mach-E to watch this video and order his own adapter.
As always, another well done and informative video. Near the end you finally hit on the point that I’ve been searching for all day and that is how do we know which Tesla superchargers are not compatible? CHARGE ASSIST. Tadaaaaa…….
Wow. I literally just bought a Lightning yesterday, and was able to order my adapter online. Great news, though Ford is telling me I won't get my adapter till August, which isn't such great news. I guess I'll have to buy one of those third party adapters you showed in the meantime.
Thanks for sharing!!!
Amazing this is happening already, I didn't realize they were turning them on so quickly!
Fantastic! Thank you
Great that they worked this quickly to get the adaptors out there. Now if only they would figure out the battery energy management system recall issue on my Ford Fusion Energi (going on 9 months now since they told me to not charge the battery, with no resolution in place).
Thanks Tom… awesome presentation as always…. Signed up for my free adapter already…. My order number is in the low 5000’s and it says May delivery. I watched your earlier reviews and pre ordered a Lectron adapter a month ago based on info from your interviews… still haven’t received it however and was wondering if you’ve heard of anyone that ordered the Lectron adapter and has received it yet? I’ve seen lots of the other adapter that has shipped already.
Thanks in advance.
Great news. Hope it is easy to find v3 with the ford app. Top notch. Thanks
*Great Video!!!*
Great day for Electric Vehicles!!! Especially Ford :-) Thank you!!
At 21:40 not all V3's will work. The vast majority of them do, but I have found several that don't. A good example is Baker, CA which has 20 V3 posts.
Tom, thanks for all of your videos. I’ve had my M3 since 2018 and my Lightning since 2022. You are correct that the charging infrastructure is far superior with a Tesla. I ordered my NACS to CCS adapter but it won’t be here until June. I see that you reviewed the A2Z adapter and I wanted to see if you think the A2Z adapter is as good as the Tesla/Ford adapter since I can get that in 2 weeks which means I’ll have it in time for my trip north for the Eclipse in April. Thoughts?
For anyone interested about wait times, I reserved mine last night (03/02) and estimated arrival is August. Free adapter, worth the wait.
What we are seeing here is the industry standardizing the plug type.
Funny Story-
A guy has just built himself a nice offgrid home. He has the solar up & was shopping for batteries to build his battery pack.
THEN, he recalled those Ford Lightning commercials which brag the Lightning can power a house. So, he looked into it
and found-
1-The Lightning has a bigger battery pack than he was designing
2-The Lightning cost LESS than the smaller battery pack he was looking to buy
SO,
He bought a Lightning to power his home. PLUS he has a truck to run to town for whatever. Very cool.
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So pulling your Lightning in to charge occupies 2 charging spots at a normal Tesla charging location. That is kind of a problem?
It is expected by both Ford and Tesla.
Not really.
@@CodyDavis91It is a problem because Tesla software won't know that it's a stupid vehicle using two bays, all it knows is that one stall is in use.
We see this in the UK, 8 bay supercharger location, two f'kin BMWs taking 4 bays. However the in car display says 6 stalls free.
Tesla are adding predictive free/busy but while they will know if Tesla cars enroute and with that destination in the plan, they are blind to non Tesla.
When there's an abundance of capacity, it won't be a problem but with existing queues, this won't work well.
I could see this being an issue if a supercharger location doesn't have the side mounted stations like those used for Teslas pulling a trailer.
A problem easily solved by installing longer cables on the Supercharger.
Excellent news and presentation Tom. Hopefully it will make it downstream to BMW (i4 driver) sometime soon.
Happy for Ford customers 🎉
Awesome video Tom and love your passion for EVs. Prices are still very high , especially with current interest rate , but I love the technology.
I don’t understand the need or must have charging stats like you mentioned … I don’t care the flow rate for my gas Fusion - some pumps are quicker than others - but I get that it’s unique to electric vehicles .
Waiting for Ford’s updated MachE or other release as I plan my future vehicle .
Great work !
Just buy a model y. Cheaper than mach e and doesn't need silly adapter.
Another great video.
Yes others did videos before you but I ignored them all the minute I saw you had a video I watched it and liked it and not planning on watching any others anyway.
thank you
Great report, Tom and I am glad to see that OEMs reach out to you and your channel grows.
Question: Imagine less able person who can hold either Tesla cable or adapter but not both at the same time. Can you plug the adapter into the vehicle first, then the Tesla plug?
Very good question! I'm an able man but still notice the effort it takes to wrestle an EA charge cable to the port on the Lightening I'm driving. I have to think it could be a problem for disabled or weaker drivers, and adding an adapter would make it worse.
It took a while for Ford to understand what was needed for EV's but they now seem to understand and have made a huge step with this Tesla deal.
Looking forward to getting my adapter. Traded my Tesla M3 in for a Lightning standard range battery. I've been nervous that I made a mistake with this battery but being able to use the Tesla network makes me feel a lot better!
Your video / truck reminds me why #1 I hand wash and #2 why I’ll never by dark paint……Thanks for the video though, I enjoy your channel!
Rivian NACS coming SOOON! This will be a great addition to already solid CCS options
Looking forward to your three-way analysis of the adapters currently available. I'm waiting for that before deciding whether to buy one of the two now available. I have three Ford EVs so I have three of their free adapters coming. But they won't be here for months and I need to charge at Tesla Superchargers now!
Tom, Great video!!! Is there a way to tell what Tesla supercharger version the charger is visually by just looking at it? How do you know driving by it weather it is a V3 or V4?
Just curious, are you in the proper space for the charger or in the adjacent spot (due to short cable)?
Thanks for not taking 10 minutes from the start of your video to actually plug in the truck and all the 'Look at me, look at me' hype for your video. MUCH RESPECT.
dang it. i was hoping to see if the a2z /lectron crap worked at all. that's going to be an interesting video
Very soon
Busy day! Looking forward to this one!
Hopefully I will be able to use this for my Cadillac Lyriq in the next couple of months. I am looking forward to taking it on a long road trip without worrying about functional fast chargers.
Great comment about the trucks!
For the record, it was Aptera that was first company to petition the government to adopt the NACS. A bunch of Aptera fanboys, including myself signed a petition, for the new standard. Aptera has those Tesla connectors. Keep your eyes peeled for the show in Europe next week. One of the first PI builds should be there.
the one thing that makes me excited about many automakers switching to this plug is that the cruddy ev fast charging stations will now be directly competing with tesla's wonderfully maintained system. and i like the smaller connector too.😊
As a Hyundai EV owner, I'm excited for this now to hopefully ease the wait times at some of the CCS stations, but when Tesla allows Hyundais to charge, I'm just excited to have more options since there are some places where CCS chargers are spread out by 50 miles so if there's an issue at the charger that you planned to charge at, it's not always pleasant geting to the next closest one. I personally don't plan to charge at a Tesla Supercharging station unless there are issues at the CCS stations that I would normally use.
Love your videos. Ford is saying that delivery of the Tesla nacs to ccs about august of 2024. Can you do a video using the new Lectron adaptor to Ford F150 lightning using the lectron adaptor? I have one of those on order now but I don't know if it is going to work or not.
Kyle may have been first, but you are the BEST!!!
He only mentioned he was first a thousand times and took forever to actually do it.
Tom, I drive an ID.4 plus I have a Bolt EV. I have ordered at the First of last month an adapter from A2Z, when do you think I’ll be able to use the adapter on my ID.4 at a Tesla Supercharger?
Wow, this reminds me of the early days of cell phones when roaming started working and you could actually travel with your phone and use it.
Do you know if this is available in Canada?