This video is great! Everybody else that I've watched, had immediate success. You showed that there was a chance that something could go wrong. You found a solution and helped people understand that even if you didn't have the software update, there were ways around it. Love your work, very informative and you've got a great sense of humor. Thanks!
Just made the first road trip in my Mach E with a borrowed Tesla adapter (mine is scheduled to arrive in October). It is a game changer! LA and the Bay area have tons more EVs than non Tesla chargers. Getting such waiting is a real possibility. But the number of Tesla chargers is incredible. They always have open slots and the chargers nearly Always work. The adapter erased any anxiety. You can just enjoy your car
Great video Craig! Answered all of my questions for charging my F150 Lightning at Tesla superchargers...except WHY my adapter order (from the 29th Feb AM) says it won't be shipped until August 2024!
@@m-khs-1748 I'm waiting for one to arrive from Lectron, as I put a lot of miles on my truck and constantly frustrated by the other charging networks, so looking forward to reducing my 'charging anxiety'.
@@EVPulse keep us posted. Please. Our truck is at the dealership getting a battery module replaced. Yuck! But I did check and we haven’t received that update yet.
I don't get how at one time the Magic Dock/Tesla Supercharger would work on any EV and now the Superchargers won't work unless updates on car or chargers happen and a needed NACS x CCS adapter. Wonder if the Magic Dock's still work?
Don't forget the fees. Started when Magic Dock was released, non-Tesla EV's pay around 23-37% more or you can pay $12.99 per month to get the same pricing as charging a Tesla. - Inside EV's.
Don't be too excited as I just found out that non Tesla EV customers will have to shell out almost twice what Tesla customers pay for supercharger .Enjoy 😅
Is there going to be a solution for the short Tesla charging cables? I'm guessing there are several Tesla charging stations that won't allow for plugging into the front left side.
As a fellow EV enthusiast (R1T and Y Performance) I for one, welcome you to the SC (and soon to the RAN) network. I believe you will experience painless road-trip charging. Both networks are very well maintained. Will there be the inevitable initial hick-ups…probably but they will quickly be resolved. Tesla has success charging other vehicles in Europe without difficulty so I believe that success will be manifested here in North America. Will there be Tesla owners who frown or are vocal against non-Teslas using the network…without a doubt. But hopefully this is a rare occurrence. We all want to further the transition so let’s be patient with one another and be understanding if that Chevy Bolt is charging at a snails pace or some vehicle is taking up two spaces. These are first world problems. Kudos to Farley and Musk for having the wisdom to make this happen.
It's March 2nd and I still do not have the update on my lightning? Actually, that adapter will work on most other EVs right now but not plug and charge on those vehicles
Yes I believe you can. I did it the other day at a magic doc. The Tesla app only showed about four charging stations in the Metro Detroit that are compatible. And the one he's at did not show up there . At first I thought that's what the problem was. You can only charge using that adapter on Generation 3 chargers and above. That's a minimum of 250 KW charger. There are a lot of older generation Chargers out there that it won't work on, hopefully they update the entire network soon.
Nice video showing the issue with the vehicle before it received the update. Hopefully more out there point it out an propagate it on social media to avoid confusion. But this is absolutely game changing for EV adoption in North America. What are the EV haters going to do after the Tesla network is opened to all CCS vehicles by the end of this year? By the way, what was the charging speed you were getting at 60% SoC?
@@EVPulsev1/V2 Superchargers won't work They are still CanBus and not PLC w/iso15118-20 J3400 and CCS are PLC w/iso15118-20 for communication protocols for Plug'n'Charge Same physical connector and different communication protocols.
Great Job! I noticed you had the car powered up when you started the charging process, so is that okay to charge your Mach-E while the car is powered on? I received conflicting information on if your car should be in the off position when charging?
There’s a massive back order on these adapters. The worst part of buying the car is that you have to wait at least six month to get the adapter. It’s a marketing scam.
What needs recognising is that you charge at Superchargers by the goodwill of Tesla / Elon Musk. The only company that has taken responsibility for charging the vehicles they make. This is a genuinely generous gesture which should be recognised as a benefit to society, enabled by Tesla innovation.
No. It's only for fast charging at Tesla Superchargers (or other NACS-equipped DC fast chargers). You'll need a level 2 adapter to convert NACS to J-1772 for that.
Ford owners finally get an update (not over the air though) and it is designed, engineered and manufactured by Tesla. If you don't see the future soon all the refueling stations will be Tesla powered unless you plug in at home Tesla will make a profit on electricity they pay next to nothing for store it in MegaChargers then sell at 4X cost, glad I own stock in Tesla
It's funny. Computer professionals / IT folks know better than to try new software on release day. You have to wait at least 24 hours to account for rollout problems, rollbacks and re-rollouts, bug fixes and on and on. EVs are basically computers on wheels.
In this case it is the reviewer’s fault. He should have done his homework how this was supposed to work. Once he discovered his mistake, he should have edited out the beginning of the video, which was not a real fair review.
The Mach E is on my short list of evs I'm considering. Tesla is still number 1 but it's so nice that this update allows others to use the tesla charging network. Downside I can see, the tesla chargers will be much more occupied.
The Mach-E is a few years old at this point, and there are better EVs out there today, but it's still an excellent choice. It's remarkable how good the vehicle was right out of the gate. Ford did a great job, and the Mach-E is aging very well. - Craig
It's not Ford's Tesla adapter but Tesla's NACS adapter which functions now on Ford ev's and later on every NACS adaptor. More customers at 30 percent higher prices and a hefty government reward on top. Easy money. Smart.
No you cannot buy that adapter for the last couple of years. There's only two other companies that are making a similar adapter. And I don't think their shipping yet either. You may be thinking about a level 2 adapter? Those have been out for years. And there are adapters that I've been out for years that allow Tesla's to charge on CCS Chargers. The exact opposite of what this adapter does.
It's just a date you have to order it by. There's only so many cars on the road right now but they already sold. I think all the new cars are going to ship with an adapter .
As a cloud IT professional, I loved seeing the real-time pros and cons of software updates. I’m more impressed how a Ford rep showed up at the charging station. 😳 … An excellent video! … My interests are what is Ford doing to improve battery tech for the F-150 Lightning and PowerBoost platform? 🙃🍷🛻
Craig is an amazing host! I appreciate the informative material layered with humor. Keep up the great videos!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you so much!
- Craig
Why is he only charging up to 80%?@@EVPulse
@@EVPulse I don’t have charge assist app on my car
This video is great! Everybody else that I've watched, had immediate success. You showed that there was a chance that something could go wrong. You found a solution and helped people understand that even if you didn't have the software update, there were ways around it. Love your work, very informative and you've got a great sense of humor. Thanks!
Thanks so much for watching and I'm glad you found the video useful.
- Craig
Glad Jim Farley left the adapter on his desk for you to pick up!
I think Ford (specifically Jim Farley) and Tesla did a fantastic roll-out. I guess I'm an optimist. It's the journey, folks.
Just made the first road trip in my Mach E with a borrowed Tesla adapter (mine is scheduled to arrive in October). It is a game changer! LA and the Bay area have tons more EVs than non Tesla chargers. Getting such waiting is a real possibility. But the number of Tesla chargers is incredible. They always have open slots and the chargers nearly Always work. The adapter erased any anxiety. You can just enjoy your car
5:00 Ouch! It's cool that you can start/stop charging from a button on the port.
Like the yellow mustard MachE --Nice!
I like your dance moves brother nice keep up the good work informing the public on new tech its very helpful.
Does the Ford precondition the batteries when navigating to a supercharger?
It should, since it recognizes it as a fast charger location, but Ford didn't specify.
It can precondition if you navigate to a charger.
12:30 I am experiencing yellow MachE and BlueCruise envy.
Great video! Covers many of the issues that many BEV owners will encounter.
Great video Craig! Answered all of my questions for charging my F150 Lightning at Tesla superchargers...except WHY my adapter order (from the 29th Feb AM) says it won't be shipped until August 2024!
Where does it say shipment date? I reserved on the 29th and haven’t seen shipping ino
@@m-khs-1748 it is found in the confirmation e-mail from Ford. I believe there is a link to check on shipment.
@@biztransitioncoach thanks you. I just found it. It’s says July . Are you going to purchase one from lectron or a2z?
@@m-khs-1748 I'm from neither...just an F150 Lightning owner...
@@m-khs-1748 I'm waiting for one to arrive from Lectron, as I put a lot of miles on my truck and constantly frustrated by the other charging networks, so looking forward to reducing my 'charging anxiety'.
Thanks for this video! We have a Lightning, and just reserved our adapter. Should have it in April. YAY!!!
We did get the update on Monday but we’ll have to wait for our own adapter to see if plug and charge works like it’s supposed to.
@@EVPulse keep us posted. Please. Our truck is at the dealership getting a battery module replaced. Yuck! But I did check and we haven’t received that update yet.
Why is the CCS adapter so BIG and the Tesla much smaller. Do both do the same thing or is the CCS superior?
Thanks for the video. Off topic, love your coat, can you share where you bought it?
I have never met a ford dealer "rep" that is properly trained to answer questions I have about my mach e
I don't get how at one time the Magic Dock/Tesla Supercharger would work on any EV and now the Superchargers won't work unless updates on car or chargers happen and a needed NACS x CCS adapter. Wonder if the Magic Dock's still work?
Yes the magic doc works a used one just the other day
How do you get the charge assist icon?
11:50 I actually listen to that song in my Mustang Mach-E basically every chance I get..... 😅
I wanted a Mach E since before they came out but it was cost prohibitive. I have an Ioniq 6 and LOVE it.
The Ioniq 6 is an excellent choice!
- Craig
@@AutoEsoterica Thanks, I LOVE it. It's a low trim (SE), AWD for 38K. I live in North Carolina.
Don't forget the fees. Started when Magic Dock was released, non-Tesla EV's pay around 23-37% more or you can pay $12.99 per month to get the same pricing as charging a Tesla. - Inside EV's.
Can you still get the Tesla monthly charger membership and use it with Plug and Charge to get the member per kW rate?
I certainly hope that the adapter prevents any possible unplugging during supercharging of either the nacs plug or adapter.
It does. The car locks the adapter which in turn the adapter locks the connector.
Don't be too excited as I just found out that non Tesla EV customers will have to shell out almost twice what Tesla customers pay for supercharger .Enjoy 😅
Is there going to be a solution for the short Tesla charging cables? I'm guessing there are several Tesla charging stations that won't allow for plugging into the front left side.
Tesla is actively upgrading its stations to V.4 Superchargers, which have a significantly longer cable.
Longer cable. Simple as that.
It's that, or you have every car go into the dealer and have their charging ports relocated to the end of the vehicle.
this is great and all, except I am still unable to reserve my adapter
As a fellow EV enthusiast (R1T and Y Performance) I for one, welcome you to the SC (and soon to the RAN) network. I believe you will experience painless road-trip charging. Both networks are very well maintained. Will there be the inevitable initial hick-ups…probably but they will quickly be resolved. Tesla has success charging other vehicles in Europe without difficulty so I believe that success will be manifested here in North America. Will there be Tesla owners who frown or are vocal against non-Teslas using the network…without a doubt. But hopefully this is a rare occurrence. We all want to further the transition so let’s be patient with one another and be understanding if that Chevy Bolt is charging at a snails pace or some vehicle is taking up two spaces. These are first world problems.
Kudos to Farley and Musk for having the wisdom to make this happen.
It's March 2nd and I still do not have the update on my lightning? Actually, that adapter will work on most other EVs right now but not plug and charge on those vehicles
I got update on 3/3/24. It will come
If this feature ever comes to my leased 2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5, I’ll need a lot more miles than my current 12,000 yearly limit!
It looked, in both attempts, that you didn’t fully latch the top silver part of the adapter into the car’s charging port.
That was not the problem. The vehicle didn't have the required OTA update.
0:32 So it's a NACS to CCS adaptor, made by Tesla. 🤔
Yup
Did he say if they are supporting the Lectron adapter?
He didn't say. We have one on order (along with our own Ford supplied one) and will test it as soon as it arrives.
I like a manager who wears blue jeans, tennis shoes, and a zip-up hoodie.
Could you initiate via the Tesla App?
Yes I believe you can. I did it the other day at a magic doc. The Tesla app only showed about four charging stations in the Metro Detroit that are compatible. And the one he's at did not show up there . At first I thought that's what the problem was. You can only charge using that adapter on Generation 3 chargers and above. That's a minimum of 250 KW charger. There are a lot of older generation Chargers out there that it won't work on, hopefully they update the entire network soon.
Nice video showing the issue with the vehicle before it received the update. Hopefully more out there point it out an propagate it on social media to avoid confusion. But this is absolutely game changing for EV adoption in North America. What are the EV haters going to do after the Tesla network is opened to all CCS vehicles by the end of this year?
By the way, what was the charging speed you were getting at 60% SoC?
We didn't take note, but we'll look at the raw footage to see if a number is visible.
At 69% SoC we were getting 49 kW. But that's all the data we could find. We weren't focusing on that for this video, TBH.
@@EVPulse Thanks for the update. That's expected at that high state of charge and no preconditioning. And thanks again for the very informative video.
Ford cars can only charge from the Gen 3 superchargers... the gen 2 with fat cables won't work.
Will any V3 Supercharger work? Got one by my parents house but it doesn't show up on the app. It is a V3.
Make sure your phone app is up to date as well as the car, and then any Supercharger should work.
@@EVPulsev1/V2 Superchargers won't work
They are still CanBus and not PLC w/iso15118-20
J3400 and CCS are PLC w/iso15118-20 for communication protocols for Plug'n'Charge
Same physical connector and different communication protocols.
Great Job! I noticed you had the car powered up when you started the charging process, so is that okay to charge your Mach-E while the car is powered on? I received conflicting information on if your car should be in the off position when charging?
We've charged a lot of cars powered on without issue. The car usually sorts that out.
You kick ass man
Is it true that DC charger ruin the battery?
We talk about it here -> th-cam.com/video/eMWLuxUfK5I/w-d-xo.html
There’s a massive back order on these adapters. The worst part of buying the car is that you have to wait at least six month to get the adapter. It’s a marketing scam.
What needs recognising is that you charge at Superchargers by the goodwill of Tesla / Elon Musk. The only company that has taken responsibility for charging the vehicles they make. This is a genuinely generous gesture which should be recognised as a benefit to society, enabled by Tesla innovation.
Does the car precondition when you navigate to a Tesla supercharger?
Yay!!! What's better than a yellow MachE? Two yellow Mach Es.
Will the adapter work at level 2 Tesla destination chargers?
No. It's only for fast charging at Tesla Superchargers (or other NACS-equipped DC fast chargers). You'll need a level 2 adapter to convert NACS to J-1772 for that.
Ford owners finally get an update (not over the air though) and it is designed, engineered and manufactured by Tesla.
If you don't see the future soon all the refueling stations will be Tesla powered unless you plug in at home Tesla will make a profit on electricity they pay next to nothing for store it in MegaChargers then sell at 4X cost, glad I own stock in Tesla
It's funny. Computer professionals / IT folks know better than to try new software on release day. You have to wait at least 24 hours to account for rollout problems, rollbacks and re-rollouts, bug fixes and on and on. EVs are basically computers on wheels.
In this case it is the reviewer’s fault. He should have done his homework how this was supposed to work. Once he discovered his mistake, he should have edited out the beginning of the video, which was not a real fair review.
The Mach E is on my short list of evs I'm considering. Tesla is still number 1 but it's so nice that this update allows others to use the tesla charging network. Downside I can see, the tesla chargers will be much more occupied.
The Mach-E is a few years old at this point, and there are better EVs out there today, but it's still an excellent choice. It's remarkable how good the vehicle was right out of the gate. Ford did a great job, and the Mach-E is aging very well.
- Craig
It's not Ford's Tesla adapter but Tesla's NACS adapter which functions now on Ford ev's and later on every NACS adaptor. More customers at 30 percent higher prices and a hefty government reward on top. Easy money. Smart.
Can non Fords use this?
No, Tom Molougney at State of Charge proved it.
Red Ring of Death!!🤣
Guess you have to make sure you have access to Ford reps before counting on this. Typical.
you might as well turn up to some lil baby (rapper) while you waiting on the car to charge lol 😂
As of September 2024, Ford is giving the adapter for free
You sir are a true professional, except when you not................................🙃
It’s not a special day for four dinners you could’ve went out and bought this adapter on Amazon or Best Buy for the last couple of years
No you cannot buy that adapter for the last couple of years. There's only two other companies that are making a similar adapter. And I don't think their shipping yet either. You may be thinking about a level 2 adapter? Those have been out for years. And there are adapters that I've been out for years that allow Tesla's to charge on CCS Chargers. The exact opposite of what this adapter does.
Hope that other vehicle manufactures do this as well.
We expect this to happen quickly, just like the announcements originally.
Red ring of death
So neither the car nor the charger will tell you the charging speed. That's crazy 😑
Seamless roll-out by Ford. Let me reach out to Ford to see, if they can send a vehicle with the right update in it. 🙄
Tesla was so far ahead by developing their own charging network. Unfortunate no other car company wants to enter that space.
Electrify America is entirely funded by Volkswagen Auto Group.
If Ford really cared about its customers, they would not set an end date for getting their adapter for free.
It's just a date you have to order it by. There's only so many cars on the road right now but they already sold. I think all the new cars are going to ship with an adapter .
OMG! You're so nerdy!
Watch out now, Craig. That cute nerd from Ford almost drew my eye away from you.
Too much trouble, waiting, and cost. I'll keep my 500+hp gas drinking monster!!! "Don't Mess With Texas!!!"
Its not a charge station fault, looks like a found on road dead fault.
THUMBS DOWN FOR FORD
BOYCOTT USA
LMAO
Should have just bought a Tesla....
All vehicle should have been updated before the release date. Poor performance on fords part.
“Game changer”? More likely nothingburger…
Ford supercharger.location is a laugh, while heading to a Tesla super charger....
As a cloud IT professional, I loved seeing the real-time pros and cons of software updates. I’m more impressed how a Ford rep showed up at the charging station. 😳 … An excellent video! … My interests are what is Ford doing to improve battery tech for the F-150 Lightning and PowerBoost platform? 🙃🍷🛻