Loomis Method, How to Find the Centerline Part 1

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  • Loomis Method and Reilly Method require the artist to place the centerline for the face. We discuss the process to find the centerline for the Loomis and Reilly methods.
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  • @SnowCompanion
    @SnowCompanion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This is the best tutorial because all the new ones never show the process. They just tell you to draw two circles without showing you how to derive the measurements and placements

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you for your comment.

  • @sixpathspanda
    @sixpathspanda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I'm one month into drawing and there is so much to learn. thank you so much for your videos, you're a great teacher!

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you I am glad your are enjoying the videos and finding them helpful.

    • @oceaniccurrents
      @oceaniccurrents ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you still drawing? I’m almost 1 month in

    • @somebodyoncetoldme1704
      @somebodyoncetoldme1704 ปีที่แล้ว

      How are you holding up 2 years and a month in?

  • @pronoun171
    @pronoun171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I would be lost without your videos. Thank you the effort and the depth you provide in your explanations.

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am glad they have helped! Please help get the word out.

    • @aashutoshkashyap1886
      @aashutoshkashyap1886 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      10:50 he is using a katana blade instead of scale.

  • @mackels716
    @mackels716 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You have the most accurate, most precise and most comprehensive set of videos about Loomis. Thank you Master!

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Mik. I am glad you enjoyed the video. Parts 2 and 3 really compete the approach for finding the center line this is really just a first step.

    • @alexbarb2829
      @alexbarb2829 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      master is a good term a lot of my actual teachers in my school don't even draw Loomis's method

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexbarb2829 I wasn't trained in Loomis in college either. I came across later in my professional career. There are other methods along with measuring, triangulation, basic proportions and so forth but I recognize Loomis would have taken my drawing to a professional level quicker if it had been taught to me in school.

  • @supernova7848
    @supernova7848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks ! Very well explained !

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for your comment.

  • @patklim761
    @patklim761 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You are a great teacher...Thank you so much!

  • @hosseinesmaeilisohi5472
    @hosseinesmaeilisohi5472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Spectacular, Thanks

  • @hugomartinez536
    @hugomartinez536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you have the best loomis tutorials

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Hugo Thanks for the comment. I appreciate it.

  • @InkRebellion
    @InkRebellion ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant!!!

  • @noirwerewolf1111
    @noirwerewolf1111 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for this ONE!

  • @tyroneperry5008
    @tyroneperry5008 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. Really helpful.

  • @xvarzka33
    @xvarzka33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, thank you

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your comment. I am glad you enjoyed it.

  • @ScilexGuitar
    @ScilexGuitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like a lot of people just skip learning to draw boxes, spheres, cylinders but mostly PLANES in different perspectives and jump straight to "ok lets draw a head using this cool loomis method I found". I was one of those people and i never understood how to construct it properly. But after practicing simple forms, contour lines, center lines in perspective, when I got back to loomis head I felt like I was drawing in 3D, I was placing the centerline on an actual 3D form

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your comment. I am glad you enjoyed the video. Combined with learning perspective basics Loomis and Reilly are very powerful methods.

  • @Scale48
    @Scale48 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I can't believe I've found a left-handed artist. Almost got to thinking I might be the only one.

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you for watching! There are alot of left handed artists out there you are not alone. :)

    • @ArneList
      @ArneList ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KevinMcCainStudios I am also lefthanded, but the other day, I found myself using the right hand for a broader background. I was surprised, but this is, how I also paint walls.

    • @mikeynyc6857
      @mikeynyc6857 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another amazingly talented left handed artist is Alex Tzavaras from simplify drawing and paining.
      I watch them both.

  • @MsZzzipper
    @MsZzzipper 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yes. I’m a nurse, and “nursing intuition” is sometimes carried as a magical enhancement that only few nurses carry. I’ve often thought that it’s the years of practice, or exposure to families in healthcare. A type of cultural capital, I think. I really appreciate your down-to-Earth teaching style. 😀

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you for the compliment.

  • @afolabiadegorite4815
    @afolabiadegorite4815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for these videos plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz keep them coming!!

  • @keshavyaduvansh4530
    @keshavyaduvansh4530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much

  • @jewelnavarrete3935
    @jewelnavarrete3935 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hope I got this right, draw the circle first and then put it in a box. Glad you demonstrated that. I am drawing 10 heads a day to get caught up on my drawing. It takes alot of commitment and practice to my art to get better and to feel more relaxed about the process.

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello, I appreciate your questions. You create the circle and the ellipse that is 2/3 the height of the circle the you create the centerline that divides the front of the face from the side of the head. The you create a line on the outside of the face. Using the forehead and nose line and the two vertical lines. We use "x" marks the spot to find the middle. That is the first step. Part 2 and 3 finish the procedures for creating an accurate centerline. Thank you again for watching.

  • @ammonhawkins1968
    @ammonhawkins1968 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ty so much

  • @alessandrosoeiro2723
    @alessandrosoeiro2723 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Muito bom!!!

  • @remana8398
    @remana8398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you😔❤

  • @Trylobyte
    @Trylobyte ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Left most (3/4) view at 22.00mins -that method only produces a centre line left of measured centre if the brow line and/or the nose line are drawn in perspective first. Otherwise you just get measured centre and then still end up guessing!

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello Richard I appreciate your comment. This video is to help people getting used to finding the middle using "x" marks the spot. Part 2 of the video shows how to find perspective middle and take the guesswork out of the process.

  • @davidross8668
    @davidross8668 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just started learning to draw and your videos are incredibly informative. One question, how did you develop such amazing hand control? your strokes are so relaxing and precise, your lines and circles are amazing, I cant get near to a decent circle or straight line.

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I practice lines and circle for 15 minutes everyday before drawing or painting. It helps with precision.

  • @tulaysenturk8725
    @tulaysenturk8725 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Süpeeer helpfuull

  • @TT-ei1ge
    @TT-ei1ge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    嗯thank you

  • @paulrichardson4715
    @paulrichardson4715 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was wondering why this looked so natural to me, then I realised your a fellow lefty 😂

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for watching. If you watch part 2. It gives you the second part for finding the centerline. Check it out.

    • @paulrichardson4715
      @paulrichardson4715 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KevinMcCainStudios Thanks, I definitely will.

  • @tsdobbi
    @tsdobbi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thankyou for this. Even in Loomis's drawing the head and hands, specifically for certain perspectives it lacks the process and I would find myself not knowing what to do. I kinda ended up doing a hybrid of Loomis and the Huston method. Putting like a half cylinder as the "mask" of the face at the angle I'm going for. The square on the front kind of accomplishes the same task.

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate your comment. I am glad you enjoyed the video.

    • @JoyZoneYT
      @JoyZoneYT 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You need to read the text linked to the images and not just look at the images.
      All of the information is in the text.

  • @libernovuss
    @libernovuss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I tried to practice during the video, but I caaaaaaaaan't ): I will need to watch this video lesson again and again ):

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did my explanations seem confusing? Let me know how I could improve the video. I will make more videos explaining the subtle concepts of Loomis. If you go to sketchfab.com they have some 3D Loomis head you can position and sketxh from if that helps. You will have so do a search for the Loomis head on sketchfab.com bur it's a great resource.

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also I appreciate you watching the video and trying to use the concepts. Thanks so much.

    • @libernovuss
      @libernovuss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KevinMcCainStudios
      Thanks for the concern, professor! Your explanation is great, really, I see all the videos for that reason. I believe my problem is the lack of practice. I have the impression that I lack practice on straight and curved lines
      . But i will get there at some point.
      Thanks for the indication and the time. (and
      of course, sorry for the
      translator english).

  • @devantecarter1441
    @devantecarter1441 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Step one draw a perfect circle 🫠

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your comment. Your circle doesn't need to be perfect. Especially since it's going to be modified.

    • @devantecarter1441
      @devantecarter1441 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KevinMcCainStudios lol you’re right, I have to get past wanting it to look exactly like yours

  • @marylouniebrugge9174
    @marylouniebrugge9174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow do you know what angle to wrap the middle line up over the head at 3/4 view?

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The curve will echoe the curvature of the ellipse. This is mostly through feel from drawing thousands of ellipses. If you're not familiar with ellipse is start getting to know and drawing ellipses and the perspective of ellipses.

    • @moorek1967
      @moorek1967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KevinMcCainStudios Yes, good advice. But if you don't know the correct way to begin with, then you will build your foundation on the flawed perspective so you go on to make 1,000 ellipses the wrong way because of habit.
      Sorry to make a negative comment, but I have the same question as the poster.

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@moorek1967 Thank you for your comment. First off we need to clarify some things. The is no such thing as a flawless drawing even from the most amazing artist you can point to, their drawing will have a certain amount of error build into the drawing. However it can be a small enough error that the eye won't perceive it. That is what we are shooting for, close enough that people can't perceive there is an issue. To answer the question of the angle, one needs to know about the major and minor axis for drawing ellipses. The ellipse drawn on the ball for this head uses an ellipse that is truly vertical or pretty close. If the ellipse representing the side of the head is 30 degrees with a vertical major axis then the center line ellipse that we are building off of would be 30 degrees with a vertical major axis and that ellipse would wrap the sphere or ball of the head. Now you could formally plot all this in perspective using boxes instead of free hand but you would gain very little.

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@moorek1967 Also part 3 of this series shows how to do this.

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also part 3 of this video shows where to wrap the center line and how to do it.

  • @MrBKuv
    @MrBKuv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is brilliant. I’ve been studying loomis method and it’s great until I go to draw someone and the features of most people are asymmetrical.

  • @girishamarchheda8269
    @girishamarchheda8269 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is difrant 1poin añd 2 point

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  ปีที่แล้ว

      True front view and true profile are 1 pt perspective views. All of the 3/4 views are 2 pt perspective.

  • @maxb1952
    @maxb1952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We have the same phone case

  • @laurenceelfenbein7772
    @laurenceelfenbein7772 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ditto

  • @Constantinesis
    @Constantinesis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First time I see exactly how much of the sides should be cut. I think not even Loomis doesn`t shows this.

  • @somebodyoncetoldme1704
    @somebodyoncetoldme1704 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:05 how is this 1 point perspective? All the lines are parallel. They should be converging.

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello, I appreciate your comment. When ever you are drawing as an artist we simplify objects. Artist will talk about the "Head in a Box" to describe the perspective. However the truth is the head is a wedge shape not a box. The box is a simplification. The box that is 90 degrees to the "Line of Sight" and is created with a true rectangle the lines are kept truly parallel as a simplification. I appreciate you watching the video.

  • @staceylynnash
    @staceylynnash ปีที่แล้ว

    Why isn’t the top right box 2 point perspective?? 😮

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Stacey thank you for your question. Anytime a box is created with a true rectangle, that box is in 1 pt. Perspective. This is a 1 pt perspective box rotated slightly to the left. I hope that helps. Thank you again for your comment.

  • @marybuffaloe1688
    @marybuffaloe1688 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    drawing head what size

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your comment. I am not sure about your question. You can use this on a head of any size.

  • @lisafred1362
    @lisafred1362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you have a video on how to do the side slice in 3/4 view? Mine are always wonky shaped. That makes the dias inside wrong. I know it is 1/3 of the total head space lopped off, but that doesn't help. Is there a way to do that slice in a foolproof way? Maybe I should draw a box for the side plane, then draw the ellipse inside instead of the ellipse and drawing the box outside... Heeeelp. I especially have trouble when the ellipse has a lot of box space on the far side away from head. (For example, when top of head extends down into far side of ellipse.) Thanks.

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If I understand it your having troubles with the ellipses. As long as the ellipse touches the 1/6 line from the top and the 1/6 line from the bottom and you create a vertical ellipse(the major axis is vertical) within those to lines it should be okay, the ellipse doesn't have to be perfect. If you have trouble drawing ellipses and circles practice doing those freehand for 5 minutes three times a week. I also have 3 videos on ellipse drawing. I hope that helps. Here is the first one th-cam.com/video/hS_crzJjkec/w-d-xo.html

    • @heliusfacenna4109
      @heliusfacenna4109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KevinMcCainStudios I think the issue might be in finding the line that marks each side of the facial plane? Is this to do with drawing a square that hits hairline and under the nose? Is it that square that gives you the correct placement for the sides of the face?

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@heliusfacenna4109 Yes the sides of the square gives the sides of the face on the left side in this case.

  • @neverhavingfun
    @neverhavingfun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👁🔺

  • @jcepri
    @jcepri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    good video, but a bit too repetitive.

    • @KevinMcCainStudios
      @KevinMcCainStudios  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching

    • @JoyZoneYT
      @JoyZoneYT 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Repetition makes for a good ingestion of information.
      This way, coming out of the video, you have retained most of it because it was explained and repeated throughout.

  • @dc-wp8oc
    @dc-wp8oc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Appreciated the information and agree this is a worthy foundational skill, but found the explanations verbose and too repetitive.