I'm a big 70s-80s music fan and I have had several chorus pedals and rack units but my favorite chorus is the Line 6 chorus set to the Tri-Chorus setting. It's really lush. The chorus included within the EHX Memory Man delay is also one of my favorites. The Rockman chorus set wide is another great chorus.
Nice. One thing I like to do if going for a stereo chorus is one in front doing the warbly part of the sound in mono and the other giving the width for the stereo effect. It's glorious!
Chorus. 100% NOT cheesy. When I was first playing and couldn’t afford big amps, I would put the rate at about 8 or 9 o’clock and dime the depth to fatten up the sound of my Princeton Reverb.
@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar Coffee and TV is one of Graham’s great achievements. He wrote a catchy hit single with super interesting guitar and he also sings it instead of Damon Albarn
Used an Ibanez chorus from 1987-1993 to thicken up my sounds on am Esquire. Sounded good..."to me". Band didn't come over and turn it off so.... Great info and good presentation! Best Regards and Best Wishes! Subscribed!
For some unique chorus tones check out the Old Blood Noise Endeavors Visitor, it's two modulation circuits running in parallel with the rate of the second circuit being continuously modulated by the depth of the first circuit. The first circuit has control to increase regen, and the further you blend in the second circuit past noon it starts to offset the delay of the two circuits by an increasing amount. Goes from normal to deeply lush to totally wacked out.
I used to have a CH-1 onboard, which is a great chorus pedal. I recently switched to the Corona with Brian May Toneprint. Makes the clean sound shine and gets a little flangeresque when paired with some dirt.. Nice vid!
I've never been an effects guy. I've bought some, toyed with them for a little while, then stuck on a shelf never to be used again. I just prefer the guitar, cord, amp sound. Just adjusting the volume and tone controls on the guitar to achieve what I want. I saw your video on the Flanger the other day and it opened my eyes to the possibility of buying another one and giving it another go! So I decided to watch this video and it definitely reinforced ALL the reasons why I hate Chorus! Thanks, I now know I will never again wonder if I'm missing something!
That vibrato trick is brilliant! I just tried on my behringer chorus and I almost cannot believe that it worked and I got a brand new pedal basically to play with!
Love me some chorus. I TOTALLY fall into the 80s side of things. I play it before my drives (like in your first example). I play in a melodic punk band and it’s great for adding a bit of flavour to a distorted tone
Awesome tips! Thanks Michael. As a chorus-freak, I learned new tricks, and got some ideas to build on your methods here. You have no idea how many chorus-obsessed players out there like me from all kinds of levels of guitar proficiency... 😂Please explore some of these in depth! Cheers!
Very Cool, Thankyou. Awesome tips and Sounds. I have been trialing using chorus to achieve a sort of 12 string sound using a 6 string guitar. Depth high , Rate low. Sounds ok. One day I will get a real 12 string guitar lol. Cheers
It's a bit out there but a set I messed with recently was a stacked chorus with an envelope filter and a specific delay, the Catalinbread CSIDMAN. Made for a nice vaporwave type tone, since the CSIDMAN can do glitch and skip type effects to the signal, adding alot of weird feedback type breakup that clashes perfectly with the the usually pretty chorus/EF sound. I personally prefer using the Tri-Chorus setting on the Keeley Electronics Dyno-My-Roto (comes with rotary and roto-flange modes too) and the Env. Filter I used was on the Dr. Scientist Dusk.
Awesome tips! Thanks Michael. As a chorus-freak, I learned new tricks, and got some ideas to build on your methods here. You have no idea how many chorus-obsessed players out there like me from all kinds of levels of guitar proficiency... Please explore some of these in depth! Cheer!
No. Update your knowledge. We AREN'T chorusing slow quiet parts of the music. We are putting chorus back where it belongs. In the LOUDEST PART of the songs. That's where chorus belongs! You DON'T play chorus on the verse. You DON'T play chorus on the solo. You DON'T play chorus on single note runs. No No No! You're crazy if you do that. You DON'T HAVE EQ on single notes. You pit EQ adjustments on chords. Guitarists have become really stupid. I'm sick and tired of all the guitarists lying all the time. I've heard so many lies from guitarists, I'm stopping them, now.
Out of curiosity: did the Strat in the Ice Chorus example (starting at 7:20) have pure-nickel wound strings? It sounded to me that way (or maybe the lows have been rolled off with equalization)
I once bought a flanger that gave me a chorus sound, and veered into phase shift territory I rarely use it now, but I have two different chorus pedals, a Roland Jazz Chorus amp, and a phase shifter pedal,
MICHAEL BANFIELD, if you listen to metallica clean tone is the roland JC120 stereo chorus which you don't hear the chorus effect much but listen to master of puppets album and justice for all clean guitar tones which is really the Roland JC120 stereo chorus used as not a chorus effect but to cancel out certain frequencies to get that metallica clean tone. Which chorus pedal can get close to this metallica clean tone?
Forgive me if this was covered but you can set the rate at zero then use the depth between 40-60% (same for mix) and it sounds a bit like an amp resonance emulator or a ‘distance’ effect
I have an old Ibanez digital chorus, and I mostly only ever set it to a watery vibrato/Leslie sound, or static. If I turn the width all the way down like you described for the static sound, I can then use the delay time control to sweep through a range of tones that sound sort of like a reverb tone, but with no tail. At the most extreme, it sounds like my amp is sitting in the bottom of an oil drum or a well. With a small practice amp, that effect makes it sound a bit like I’m playing through a larger cabinet, so I used to sometimes use it as a pseudo-cab sim.
Wrong. When you finish playing the verse, you then play the CHORUS in the song. The loud part that everyone sings which creates a chorus effect in the church. When everyone sings the chorus, you hit the chorus pedal and play along with those chords. Your guitar sound will fit in with the chorusing voices type of sound.
Hey thanks, I think it's '64. The pickups can be a bit edgy and rattly but it's a lovely in between compared to a full size jazz box and a heavier more solid 335 style. Thanks for commenting
Just when I'm thinking I can sell that cheapo chorus pedal coz I own an scf and the funds will go to more cool gear ... "stacked chorus" is thrown into the mix! 🤯
Well, you can use it as a paperweight, to knock some burglar on the head or standing on a living room table as a piece of conversation but I like to use it with my electric guitar.....call me weird.
Wrong! You've never gone to church, so you've never heard people sing together. You've never understood what chorus singing is. You have no idea about playing verse chorus verse etc... When they sing the chorus, you play the chorus pedal and your guitar sounds will fit in with the voices that are creating the chorus sound. You DON'T chorus single notes! You DON'T chorus quiet parts of the music! There are OTHER PEDALS for those parts of the music.
Awesome tips! Thanks Michael. As a chorus-freak, I learned new tricks, and got some ideas to build on your methods here. You have no idea how many chorus-obsessed players out there like me from all kinds of levels of guitar proficiency... Please explore some of these in depth! Cheer!
The only gear channel that makes me want to go play with the pedals I already have instead of buying new stuff.
Also great videos for multifx pedal owners
Never thought of it that way but you're absolutely right. 👍👍
Literally such a brilliant point.
This comment made me subscribe. Anything I can do to curb the GAS!
I agree. Great sounds that he makes that inspire us all.
That rotary thing for grunge and 00s-rock took me years took figure out, I was always convinced they had actual leslies haha, great vid!!
Chorus with the depth set low is one of my favorite substitutes for delay or reverb because it's way less cluttered
I'm a big 70s-80s music fan and I have had several chorus pedals and rack units but my favorite chorus is the Line 6 chorus set to the Tri-Chorus setting. It's really lush. The chorus included within the EHX Memory Man delay is also one of my favorites. The Rockman chorus set wide is another great chorus.
I love watching your videos like a good movie! Thank you for your highly informative and enjoyable content! 👍🏽😊😊
Nice. One thing I like to do if going for a stereo chorus is one in front doing the warbly part of the sound in mono and the other giving the width for the stereo effect. It's glorious!
Chorus. 100% NOT cheesy. When I was first playing and couldn’t afford big amps, I would put the rate at about 8 or 9 o’clock and dime the depth to fatten up the sound of my Princeton Reverb.
Great video! I was thinking to pull the chorus out of the pedalboard, but I could now try some of this examples. Thanks!
That off-kilter “seasick” use of the effect at 4:30 reminds me of Graham Coxon’s playing in Blur
Thanks! I think Coffee and TV is one of the best examples where he does that, great stuff
@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar Coffee and TV is one of Graham’s great achievements. He wrote a catchy hit single with super interesting guitar and he also sings it instead of Damon Albarn
Good timing. Iv'e been playing around with combinations of chorus lately.
Best Channel to learn how to upgrade your essantial pedal game! keep it up Michael :)
Thank you!
Used an Ibanez chorus from 1987-1993 to thicken up my sounds on am Esquire. Sounded good..."to me". Band didn't come over and turn it off so.... Great info and good presentation! Best Regards and Best Wishes! Subscribed!
For some unique chorus tones check out the Old Blood Noise Endeavors Visitor, it's two modulation circuits running in parallel with the rate of the second circuit being continuously modulated by the depth of the first circuit. The first circuit has control to increase regen, and the further you blend in the second circuit past noon it starts to offset the delay of the two circuits by an increasing amount. Goes from normal to deeply lush to totally wacked out.
Thanks for sharing that looks like a great pedal!
I used to have a CH-1 onboard, which is a great chorus pedal. I recently switched to the Corona with Brian May Toneprint. Makes the clean sound shine and gets a little flangeresque when paired with some dirt.. Nice vid!
I tried many choruses until I found DOD Ice Box. There's different versions of it, I believe, but the light blue is the one. Got it cheap second hand.
I've never been an effects guy. I've bought some, toyed with them for a little while, then stuck on a shelf never to be used again. I just prefer the guitar, cord, amp sound. Just adjusting the volume and tone controls on the guitar to achieve what I want. I saw your video on the Flanger the other day and it opened my eyes to the possibility of buying another one and giving it another go! So I decided to watch this video and it definitely reinforced ALL the reasons why I hate Chorus! Thanks, I now know I will never again wonder if I'm missing something!
That vibrato trick is brilliant! I just tried on my behringer chorus and I almost cannot believe that it worked and I got a brand new pedal basically to play with!
Fantastic!
You just proved how usable Chorus is ! I would only use a Dimension C before, so thanks for the tips.
Happy to help!
This was great, and I had no idea about the dummy cable trick-this adds new life to my ancient CH-1, thanks!
Glad to help!
Love me some chorus. I TOTALLY fall into the 80s side of things. I play it before my drives (like in your first example). I play in a melodic punk band and it’s great for adding a bit of flavour to a distorted tone
Awesome tips! Thanks Michael. As a chorus-freak, I learned new tricks, and got some ideas to build on your methods here. You have no idea how many chorus-obsessed players out there like me from all kinds of levels of guitar proficiency... 😂Please explore some of these in depth! Cheers!
Ooh, the vibrato bit was brilliant. Thank you for that. I have an Ibanez SC10 that could be used for that.
Glad you liked it!
Very Cool, Thankyou. Awesome tips and Sounds. I have been trialing using chorus to achieve a sort of 12 string sound using a 6 string guitar. Depth high , Rate low. Sounds ok. One day I will get a real 12 string guitar lol. Cheers
I used to use #1 all the time until i got a dedicated rotary pedal. Sounded great as a work-around!
Boss rt-20?
It's a bit out there but a set I messed with recently was a stacked chorus with an envelope filter and a specific delay, the Catalinbread CSIDMAN. Made for a nice vaporwave type tone, since the CSIDMAN can do glitch and skip type effects to the signal, adding alot of weird feedback type breakup that clashes perfectly with the the usually pretty chorus/EF sound. I personally prefer using the Tri-Chorus setting on the Keeley Electronics Dyno-My-Roto (comes with rotary and roto-flange modes too) and the Env. Filter I used was on the Dr. Scientist Dusk.
The PS-6 is my favorite chorus sound, honestly. I run the +10/-10 cent detune into stereo. No movement, just glassy stereo separation.
Awesome tips! Thanks Michael. As a chorus-freak, I learned new tricks, and got some ideas to build on your methods here. You have no idea how many chorus-obsessed players out there like me from all kinds of levels of guitar proficiency... Please explore some of these in depth! Cheer!
No.
Update your knowledge.
We AREN'T chorusing slow quiet parts of the music.
We are putting chorus back where it belongs.
In the LOUDEST PART of the songs.
That's where chorus belongs!
You DON'T play chorus on the verse.
You DON'T play chorus on the solo.
You DON'T play chorus on single note runs.
No No No!
You're crazy if you do that.
You DON'T HAVE EQ on single notes.
You pit EQ adjustments on chords.
Guitarists have become really stupid.
I'm sick and tired of all the guitarists lying all the time.
I've heard so many lies from guitarists, I'm stopping them, now.
1:30 Perfect to make some Scofield on acid sound. Love it
You had me at "not cheesy"!
I love the Boss CE-2W (CE mode) stacked with a Caroline Somersault
Allways loved chorus 💙 use it subtle though.😊
Wow, that was beautiful. I’m really curious, what song was played at the 7:20 mark this clip.!
Out of curiosity: did the Strat in the Ice Chorus example (starting at 7:20) have pure-nickel wound strings? It sounded to me that way (or maybe the lows have been rolled off with equalization)
Nothing cheesy about 80s chorus tunes. It's still the benchmark of great guitar tones. Some of the fashion and videos is a different thing
I once bought a flanger that gave me a chorus sound, and veered into phase shift territory
I rarely use it now, but I have two different chorus pedals, a Roland Jazz Chorus amp, and a phase shifter pedal,
MICHAEL BANFIELD, if you listen to metallica clean tone is the roland JC120 stereo chorus which you don't hear the chorus effect much but listen to master of puppets album and justice for all clean guitar tones which is really the Roland JC120 stereo chorus used as not a chorus effect but to cancel out certain frequencies to get that metallica clean tone. Which chorus pedal can get close to this metallica clean tone?
Chorus before Drive sounded a lot like John Scofield. Which is brilliant!
Thanks for reminding me I went to the trouble of buying the Kurt Cobain Jag years ago but never bought a chorus pedal! I think it's time...
I think D. Navarro uses dual chorus on "Classic Girl." I think.
awesome video thanks
Korn use the extreme setting in an excellent way
07:15 what Michael Jackson song would you choose to play with that setting?
Can i beam every other effect in a tc electronic pedal at the tone print setting?
I mean a phaser effect in the corona chorus or every other effect?
I use my MXR 117 Flanger as a chorus at times. It does a decent job.
I really want an MXR 117!
Nice 330, I owned a 61..I use Boss CH1 stereo chorus
That Static Chorus (#2) kinda sounds like Zeppelin's Houses of the Holy song. Not as intense, but along the same lines.
Forgive me if this was covered but you can set the rate at zero then use the depth between 40-60% (same for mix) and it sounds a bit like an amp resonance emulator or a ‘distance’ effect
Excelentes dicas!
Ten ways to use a chorus? Ok, I'm about to learn eight things😂
thems big frets and strings great guitar what is it a telecaster 70 s original?
Thanks! Yes it’s old one, I’ll do a video on it at some point.
I have an old Ibanez digital chorus, and I mostly only ever set it to a watery vibrato/Leslie sound, or static. If I turn the width all the way down like you described for the static sound, I can then use the delay time control to sweep through a range of tones that sound sort of like a reverb tone, but with no tail. At the most extreme, it sounds like my amp is sitting in the bottom of an oil drum or a well. With a small practice amp, that effect makes it sound a bit like I’m playing through a larger cabinet, so I used to sometimes use it as a pseudo-cab sim.
Wrong.
When you finish playing the verse, you then play the CHORUS in the song.
The loud part that everyone sings which creates a chorus effect in the church.
When everyone sings the chorus, you hit the chorus pedal and play along with those chords.
Your guitar sound will fit in with the chorusing voices type of sound.
I associated and despised chorus with cheezy 80's too.......then grew up and got into Stren ,Schofeild etc and can't play without
You really have to know the workings of pedals to make this informative video.
The "best" seasick effect is in the Boss Tera Echo
Bit of a “Rhubarb and Custard” thing going on there :)
An EHX Neo Clone into a Soul Food is my goto combo. They take up little space, too.
(:
Sounds sweet, yeah the neo version of the small clone is definitely more pedalboard friendly!
It's subtle, but it's also big with the master volume cranked.
(:
Hey Michael, what model is that hollow body Gibson you were playing? Is it something like a Casino?
Very similar to a casino, it's a Gibson ES-330
Guitar triangle:dirt, chorus, reverb❤
7:20
Oh it’s cheesy and like cheese too much or too smelly will make you sick but the right king on the right amounts are heavenly
My favourite Chorus pedal songs are Kim Carnes Bette Davis eyes and The Police Walking on the moon.
Keyboards I'm afraid 😃 listen again! And ehx flanger for Andy! No chorus there!😃
No one commenting on the absolutely epic 330. What year? Mines a 63
Hey thanks, I think it's '64. The pickups can be a bit edgy and rattly but it's a lovely in between compared to a full size jazz box and a heavier more solid 335 style. Thanks for commenting
Just when I'm thinking I can sell that cheapo chorus pedal coz I own an scf and the funds will go to more cool gear ... "stacked chorus" is thrown into the mix! 🤯
Never understood why people think chorus or all mod pedals must be used post dirt pedals. Quite the opposite really.
2:03 I don't hear any difference
I like the extra delay from vib pedals better..i just dont like chorus pedals as they are
5, 10 - I get Porcupine Tree vibes
You've hit the pedal a bunch of times and nothing happened? Also it's light does not go on
I liked your video, but you left THE 80s setting out : low rate and high depth!
Cheesy 80s music? I don't think so - that was the height of guitar !
The Pretenders use of it--NOT cheesy!!! 😝😝😝
Well, you can use it as a paperweight, to knock some burglar on the head or standing on a living room table as a piece of conversation but I like to use it with my electric guitar.....call me weird.
The only wrong thing about Chorus is not using it
Meh. Don't listen to the gainsayers: crank up the 80s chorus - be loud and proud!
Should get that jaw looked at by a doctor.
Wrong!
You've never gone to church, so you've never heard people sing together.
You've never understood what chorus singing is.
You have no idea about playing verse chorus verse etc...
When they sing the chorus, you play the chorus pedal and your guitar sounds will fit in with the voices that are creating the chorus sound.
You DON'T chorus single notes!
You DON'T chorus quiet parts of the music!
There are OTHER PEDALS for those parts of the music.
Sei molto bravo
Awesome tips! Thanks Michael. As a chorus-freak, I learned new tricks, and got some ideas to build on your methods here. You have no idea how many chorus-obsessed players out there like me from all kinds of levels of guitar proficiency... Please explore some of these in depth! Cheer!