EPIC Fastest Map Ever - ChamKyo (T) v gasvulture (P) on Styler - StarCraft - Brood War REMASTERED
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Fastest Map Ever but it's a 44min video with an epic tag?
Oh boy
The spamming that ChamKyo was doing around the 35 minute mark was (I assume) him continuously typing the Korean word "나가" - which means "leave" or "get out" (as you correctly guessed) - in broken sequences.
At around 35:57 when he got his SCVs stormed he said "굿" followed by "좋아." "굿" is the Korean adaptation of the English word "good" (they're also pronounced the same) and "좋아" is the Korean word for "good" or "I like it." He's basically being snobbish towards his opponent.
At around 38:00 where GasVulture's drop attempt got thwarted by Wraiths and turrets ChamKyo sent "ㅋ" twice. The character "ㅋ" is kind of the laughing sound in Korean. Usually many are sent together, like "ㅋㅋㅋㅋ," and sending only one like "ㅋ" has a somewhat negative connotation as if they're purposefully mocking the other person.
Thanks!
Thank u!
This comment should be pinned. Can u make that happen @FalconPaladin my brother? This is exactly what u asked for at the end of the video (with bonus translation(s) lol)
Ahhh...those carriers tried to kill a command center but were not able to because Cham managed to lift another CC and cover the original one. Sweet
The corner spawn locations are so much better to have than the non-corners. You get a funnel that your opponent has to travel through rather than a wider opening that is easier to retreat from
Lol brings me back to 20 years ago when I used to spend way too much time on this. I miss those days. My wife thinks I'm nuts for watching these lol
Dude mine to lol. They just don't understand.
You are not alone mate
My wife used to play and she still thinks it's a waste of time lol. I think it's a better hobby than watching sportsball
Gasvulture should have totally tried to mind control an SCV, he had the space and the income to try it. That would have been sooo cool
He did dropped a Dark Archon and then converted like 3 scvs, then was when the leave action began.
The conversation around 40:25 goes something like the following:
GasVulture: Have Carriers been nerfed? (캐리어 -> Korean pronunciation for Carrier, 하향 -> looking downward (nerf in this context))
ChamKyoYook: Your face has been nerfed. (얼굴 -> face)
GasVulture: I see you've become dumber.
The word that ChamKyo says after the GG means "master" or "owner" in Korean. I'm not sure why he said that, it's super random and makes no sense.
Maybe Protoss player is acknowledging that the Terran Player is a master.
Owner. Owned
Thanks for the insight Sean!
Oh man your comment was before covid 19 before I got stuck at home.. I miss my freedom days
But Sean
Spoiler Alert
Definitely entertaining. Felt like GasVulture was too strong to be beaten in battle yet too weak to win the war every time he tried to attack. Nice comeback by Cham, I loved his production transitions very smooth.
The protoss played as protoss for the first time it seems.
The Terran also went Bio which is just not the meta at all.
At 11:34, you say only a few SCV's died to the storm, but if you watch the population, 23 of them died in that :p I don't know if casting during a battle allows for quick population glances, since I've never cast, but it might help catch that kind of thing! Either way, keep up the good work, love the channel!
wow that was great really enjoyed it
Thanks for the visit!
Love these replays of normal people playing 1v1 on fastest, or any 2v2, 3v3. You know that. And you're getting waaaay better at observing the Minimap. In this one I think you didn't miss any "minimap" action, although you're still a couple seconds late, it's way more fun to watch now.
And by the way, I like how you responded in one video: "It's just how I cast" --- That felt a really good response.
ChamKyo for this wonderful cast!
Gasvulture's siblings are Mineralterran and Supplyzerg.
He DID actually Mind controlled the SCV (you can see it at 35:53 at the upper-right part of the screen). If he was able to recall it though, this would be a completely different game
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ChamKyoYook is the Romanization of the Korean word 참교육. The word "참" is often used as a prefix to indicate something "pure" or "true," and the word 교육 means "education" or "teaching." The word 참교육 (cham-gyo-yook) is often used in a rather fun context where you're going up against an opponent and you'll "teach them a good lesson" (i.e. you'll beat them good).
"참교육 시키다" (cham-gyo-yook shi-ki-da) is usually the full phrase in how it's used, the word "시키다" meaning "to impose" or "make someone do something."
At around 35 minutes, the terran player said "leave" and then he said "good"
Fun fact: One stim does nothing to change a marine's lifespan against cannons, but does heaps to improve his ability to kill cannons.
I miss the early 2000s!! Some of my best video game memories were me and my roommate playing 2v2s on battle.net
These Goliath hordes were soooo lovely!!!
26:38 did he use one of his alternate command centers to block his main one from being targeted? I have never seen that done before
Yep! Big brain stuff. :)
Yea another good tactic is to rush a barrax and fly it over the enemies minerals. Especially for zerg it will fuck them up for a long time if its done fast
@@FalconPaladin Do you eventually watch pewdiepie or markiplier?
Nope.
Thanks for the content bro! Love fastest maps! have a good one broski
Yeah, stasis for tanks and hallucination for arbiters were never used. Strange though. True for that he seemed to be not comfortable with toss.
Скорее всего играет не на профильной расе, судя по его тактике чел на тосе - зерг))
I feel like their entire manpower are built of SCV and Probes
26:31 thought this was a pro game for a minute there
Did it seem to anyone else that GasVulture was sort of messing around and not trying hard while ChamKyo took it really seriously?
Exactly the outcome I was looking for.
oh my god. the carrier control. it hurts to watch.. what kind of play of protos is that.
Sometimes I usually go for Protoss, even in this match they had a better position in the map than the Terran, but boy I was glad the Terran won, the other guy play style was odd to say the least. Ggs
Looks like a violent go at Sim City to me XD
Fun watch thanks man. 😀😀
Any time!
I don't get one thing. What's stopping GasVulture from setting up another base when things have turned for him? He had like 20K in the bank so he would get another base up and running in a couple of minutes and the Terran wouldn't even notice.
Feels like ChamKyo is using MapHack. 2:46 if you start looking at the mini map of blue scv scouting, it looks very suspicious. Once red probe found blue, the scv decides to skip left middle. But why would he skip left middle? there is 33% chance of red being there... idk i could be overly skeptical. At 4:46 when blue marines attacked the cannons he saw red's robotic facility so he built turrets after retreat. Here at 6:46 is the reason why i think blue is hacking. keep an eye on the mini map for the reaver drop AND also look at blue's marine movement at the same time. At 6:50 there is no way for blue to realize the reaver drop timing, but blue pulls his marines back immediately. it doesnt make sense, how does he know when and where the drop will be coming without scans. At 6:56 is only when blue is able to see red's shuttle, but the marines is already there waiting. also ironic how you said "nice timing on the turrets btw" lol. Maybe the protoss is also map hacking, at 8:18 red pulled his zealots before dropship was in vision of the pylon. UNLESS the pylon has vision range that can see pass the wall. Again this is all speculation, only replay with player POV can tell. there might be more evidences in the videos but i stopped watching, red's drop attempts were too frustrating to watch.
Even this comment?
why not?
Amazing!
Thanks RJB!
H a y falcon I've always admired your ability to stay impartial, even when it comes to your skills. I'd love to let you know royal we appreciate it, keep up the good work. How you got to be such an amazing person I'll never know. Keep it sleazy
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Chamkyo handled the drops and storms on his scv's and bio really well in the early and mid game. Some of the sloppy drops were Gasvulture trying to get the most out of Shuttles getting target fired(like dropping units on top of tanks so other tanks kill them) but if the drops get handled correctly by the T it becomes really difficult to get results with them. Gasvulture did almost everything as it should be done by the book, but Chamkyo answered correctly each time. Specifically his unit control sealed the deal.
The one time Gasvulture flew his Carriers into Chamkyo's base he was aiming for the main command center, but chamkyo saw it coming and immediately lifted another command center over it to block Gasvulture from clicking on it. Had he not done that or been slower he would have most likely lost the command center. Also, there's a certain point where you have to keep sending and pumping otherwise the opponent gets leverage over you, and that can come at the cost of some unit control. That's why some units from both sides went completely wasted even though they're both top level fastest players.
Dude, paragraphs
What i don't understand is why GasVulture didn't do more drops from the side, like dragoons on the high ground, or why he didn't utlize Arbiters. It seems like mass stasis would be super good in this.
Seesaw gang reppin'
this was pretty cool ;)
I don't think I've seen many bio vs protoss wins before
It works only on the early rush stage I believe.
You haven't here, either.
you referred to the gols as "mechwarriors" at one point...lmao I forgot about that game! was the first thing i thought when I first saw a goliath in SC
From like 98 to 2006 or so i played sc1 only. Not even brood war. I was a sc1 fastest map god destroying everyone with my illy account G()LI)FINGER. Now that I think back on it, i was probably shit, and it was just that anyone ggood played brood war.
Playing one of these , feels nice with the revamped skin
Hello Falcon keep up the good work.
need arbiters in order 2 deal with siege tonks
Yeah, just final stasis in the end...
This comment was read by Falcon.
and this one
this one too
also this one
this one might've been skipped but probably was read still
unsure about this one
GG ChamKyo 100% GG
you missed it !!! at 35:53 he mind controls an SCV !!! look closely near the refineries top right haha a tank instantly snipes it tho
Teeter totter in Utah for me haha
I think the Protoss in this battle were part Russian. They just KEEP coming. LOL
Toss should have been making reavers a lot sooner... terran was pushing up to his main base & he could have had 6 or 7 reavers holding the entrance
I legitimately forgot teeter totter and see saw were the same thing.
I’m pretty balanced between seesaw and teeter totter.
hi! please provide me a link to download the map. Thanks for your time.
I have recently got this game back after years.
I need to know where do i find this maps on game.
I called it teeter totter
20+ scvs killed at 9:22 with storm 🙃
No hallucination or stasis field?
+6,8 мариков в первой атаке и игра окончена😂
GasVulture had too many probes.
I prefer not using workers to scout on fastest in 1v1. The minerals being directly next to CC makes losing a worker to scout more expensive to ur raw macro production. just scout with first units etc. unless ur cannon rushing or stuff lol
Hi , i'm trying to find this map and i cant find it they all bad designs, can you put a link for this ".scm" map. Thanks
great game
Salute the marines
I wonder why toss not simple snatch a SCV at start or as soon as possible and then outmass the Terran?
It's against the rules in FME.
@@FalconPaladin Oh, okay, but one of the comment here say: He DID actually Mind controlled the SCV (you can see it at 35:53 at the upper-right part of the screen). If he was able to recall it though, this would be a completely different game
So was this an rulebreak then? Or is it simplke not allowed at start?
wtf he should have used the damn disruption webs
Falcon - a bit silly commentary on this. Dude, You seem not to care about economics in many games. Check out Gasvulture's run for minerals/gas. I thought he will just go for storm on one pile of his probes, then straight to mass carrier+arbiter. he lost he initiative just after 20:00 on the clock. btw watch the Peanut Buter Falcon movie.
Archons are better than EMP'd Temps... constant attack!!!
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So who won the tournament for brood war?
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Why is DWeb so under used? I used to use it all the time. It is wicked against tanks and bunks
The short, mostly accurate answer is, "Because it's not good enough to justify the cost," and the evidence for the answer is, "Or else the pros would do it more." To make use of dweb, you need corsairs. Corsairs are already not very good against Terran, because Terran rolls hard with mech, which is all ground. Their most common air unit is science vessels, but they don't run enough of those to give corsairs much to hunt.
So, the more dweb you use, the more corsairs you have sitting around not doing anything.
沒有海盜攻擊機的技能 神族生產在多兵也只是蒸發!!!
Did he ever get speed for zealots...
Ooohhhhh ils gooooood game OMG 😝😁😁😁
S T A S I S ! ! !
Is there fme for StarCraft 2?
25:00 wonder...where wraith?
21k is 210 zeolots
He transitioned to vultures too slow
Cast Dark Colony plz
@Falcon Paladin stop applying normal BW strategy thinking to fastest map. You will regularly see players committing to bad trades or not bothering to micro very much because it's not so important - they can lose 12 dragoons but make 24 more in the next 2 mins!
why doesn't any protoss player use recall. gas vulture wasted so much on shitty shuttle drops. back in my day when i got to that point in the game id defend myself enough to build up something absurd and then recall it into the prime spot. it always worked. am i crazy? have times changed?
Gasvulture big noob with is carrier control. OMFG.
Hi..i'm sucon
Hey
Hi Sucon!
Lol. Как можно было так слить игру?
Это просто паника от протоса, он тупо не знал, что сделать с этой толпой танков и голиафов)
Хотя, возможно, арбитры были бы неплохим решением с их инвизом, отзывом и стасисом..
Николай Ёлкин он почему-то не стал использовать дисрапшн веб корсаров, да и стазис не особо пользовал. С этими скиллами он бы мог выключать довольно большое количество танков. Ну и реколл арбитра с иллюзиями на базу сильно бы помог.
@@ShitajiMado я думаю, что ключевой момент в том, что протосс не успевал прокликивать все гейтвеи и старпорты, хотя у него их было огромное количество.. у терана все было гораздо лучше с реализацией ресурсов и производством армии. Переломным моментом в игре стало строительство кучи Фэктори у террана, тот выдавил протоса. А сетки, штормы и стасисы в этом матчапе, пожалуй, не так сильно сыграли, как макро.
if u played unlimited resource map like this one...protoss must beat zerg or terran in one on one play....MIND CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!once u mind control one scv....u built tank against their tank.....400 population vs 200 population ...GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
That's very difficult to pull off. Your opponent basically has to donate an SCV to you.
@@Ravengagepvl nah u can use recall to make sure ur can get one scv to ur base
@@phantomtin I know, its still really hard to pull off. The dude barely got one storm on the SCVs after several attempts. Terran was just too good at defense.
You're right that its very very powerful. Im just saying its not that easy to do vs a good player.
many player can drop temper next to scv and make storm....why u cant use mass teleport and recall to grab one scv???i saw many korean player game on youtube...most of them can steal scv..
@@phantomtin Ok, but im talking about THIS game. You can see the Protoss trying to storm drop, it gets shut down the first few times.
Maybe in other games its more common, but in this game the Terran has really good defense.
how are they maxed out with no units to battle dafuq?
I'm liking the lower frequency of carbot-skin games. I think one every two months max.
4 to 5 hundred apm to mine lol average "hackers" make normal people feel bad haha 😄
I mean this was booring to me , it seemed like they were not giving it all they could me being a noob the teran just stood there with his base till min 20
Read and like this comment! You're getting pretty big, idk if you're gonna be able to read them all anymore! Congratulations with your rapid growth!
Thanks, Tyler! Can still read all my comments! :D
210 zealots not 2100 :)
True. :)
All good, you do s great job casting, we will let this one slide 👊
@@tamiro1992 We let about three slide every cast... I so love Falcon math :)
44 no epic
Bonkers should be one level above EPIC.
hmmmmmmmmmmm. I worry about rating inflation, though.
i dont see how this is epic
I'm curious if these maps could actually help you get better at real starcraft. Because you need to learn how to macro really well.
I played exclusively fastest maps in broodwar cause i was too scared to play on regular maps. when i went over to sc2 i found the macro to be incredibly easy and am pretty much steady in high plat/low diamond
@@isaacstjohn8044 Don't know how much credit you can give fastest maps for that. SC2 macro is pretty different than broodwar. Significantly easier I would say but I'm not saying it's easy especially when 3+ bases.
It's embarassing when Protoss loses when up 2:1 in minerals, gas, and supply for as long as they were because they stupidly throw units at a Terran turtle defense. Even worse when you lose to Goliaths + tanks because you don't know how, or don't want to rally ground units to send to a concentrated force and you keep streaming them. Also, that was some trash Carrier control. I'm fairly certain my Starcraft APM hovers around 80-100, maybe spikes to 150, and this guy just didn't play them well.
Even the drops were not well executed as this fool doesn't know how to poke at base defenses. Look at the minimap at the end of the game and you'll notice the Terran player has open space at the bottom of their base. Why is that? Because that's where the drops were focused and missile turrents aren't enough to prevent them, but Marines and Goliath's moving into position below suddenly can make the play. Adjustment? Approach where ground units cannot even engage you. Btw, this is also how you should attack with Carriers. Don't let a cluster of Goliath's even form up to have to deal with unless they're all under disruption web or storms. Otherwise, force them to stupidly path and line up in and around buildings while air units can concentrate on them one at a time. Air attacks and drops should have come from the north and hugged the east wall of the map. And FFS, build some damn shield batteries for those Carriers up there too.
The disruption web usage for this game was trash too. Disruption web works when it forces the would be shooters underneath the area to move closer than they want to (out of position), or move back out of range such that they aren't covering the area anymore. Best case scenario is when you drop web on units that can't even push back at all because it's smushed into their own base. I'd argue Disruption web is just as good as Dark Cloud for breaking frontline base defenses, but idiots like this guy don't know how to use it.
Literally anytime I see an epic TvP, or even ZvP, 95% of the time its the Protoss having an early lead, playing with a 80IQ and then losing the game.