The criminal negligence and incompetence of the two pilots in this incident is beyond belief - Ignore ATC instructions, ignore IFR/VFR protocols, ignore ECAM warnings, ignore GPWS warnings, ignore safety procedures..... Absolutely sickening. Another world class video though, thank you!
i am from bahrain, i live really close to where the crash happened, my dad told me when the crash happened it was so crowded and he saw floating bodies and the wing of the plane floating with many ambulances and screams
I just wonder if this video tells the whole story, especially from the pilots perspective. At one point I was thinking they didnt knew where they really are.
Absolutely insane how a person with thousands of hours of experience completely fails to rely on his fully working instruments right in front of him. Being presented with a "stressful situation" is not a good enough excuse to throw logic and reason out the window. What a terrible pilot.
It’s just a habit of pushing through exams by forcing the chances. He would have done a looping if he wanted to catch his wallet in the air.A complete fraud from A to Z.
There are many accidents of exactly the same nature that have happened over the years.A pilot trusts his feelings over his instruments which leads to a disaster.
I landed a Boeing 757 into Bahrain about 30 minutes before this accident. It was daylight then but very close to evening. The visibility was poor due to dust and haze; we (flight deck crew) commented how it looked like a low vis approach in a European winter rather than the Middle East in the summer.
@@tedwalford7615 No, no excuse. I'm not a pilot but I was shaking my head all the way through the narration of the landing approach. Much of it was just good sense thrown out the window. I mean like, do you land when you can't see a damn thing and you hear the ground proximity warning? No excuse.
It's a fine example of why it pays to be IFR certified. Where your brain and knowledge fails you, the computers will not. Only if the instruments are broken or displaying false information should you go VFR only.
The problem is that an instrument displaying false information not always will tell you so...see the crash of Aeroflot flight SU2003 on january 3rd 1976
What amazes me about so many flight accidents is the strong tendency for pilots to disbelieve or ignore the instruments, warnings, etc. Why do they always believe they are right and the instruments, etc., aren’t working? That is rarely, if ever, the case, pilots always believe they are right when they’re making huge pilot errors. What egos we humans have.
It is called confirmation bias. All humans are wired to search for clues that confirm their belief, while disregarding the true situation. Its quite similar to how disinformation is spread. It also amazes me, but it is not an ego thing To me it seems that there is also a factor of what the channel mentour pilot describes as “get-there-itis”: disregarding safe procedures to land sooner.
A big part of flying is being trained to believe your instruments and not your own body. But when you think about it, you’ve been believing your body your entire life so there is a bit of a natural instinct to overcome. Of course there’s also a lot of regulation, and rules that good pilots follow that these did not.
I’m not a pilot and I’m sure the various systems and processes required to fly a passenger jet are highly complex. But when an automated warning is telling you to pull up, don’t you just pull up rather than ignoring the warning?
i am from bahrain, i live really close to where the crash happened, my dad told me when the crash happened it was so crowded and he saw floating bodies and the wing of the plane floating with many ambulances and screams
In normal situations you would indeed. When landing in high elevation or between mountains you wouldn't necessarily. In fact sometimes they will turn off the altitude warning.
Spatial disorientation is the number one killer for most pilots flying into the weather or in this scenario not having the horizon or city as a reference. That is why we train on unusual attitudes. It’s always a weird feeling whenever flying through the cloud’s.
@@ismaelderas It seems like for the whole initial approach and subsequent approaches the crew never once had the aircraft in the right place or more importantly in the correct configuration, like not ever.
I’m just left baffled with each of these stories that have a plot ‘believing the plane was nose up/ascending’ because of how it felt. Do they not have an attitude indicator right in front of their face? I can totally see how easy it could be to get disoriented based on your own senses, but why do they seem to ignore all the instruments that they know they’re supposed to rely on? That’s why those instruments are there! Otherwise an airplane would just have a huge glass windshield, a speedometer, and an altimeter.
@@cremebrulee4759I agree. In many of these cases, I find myself screaming, "Look at your instruments!" But sometimes the instruments are faulty and misleading. Which is why they must also use visual cues (if possible). In this specific case, since visual cues were not possible given that it was completely dark, it baffles me that they even attempted to land. At the very least, ATC could have and should have assisted but there didn't seem to have been any communication at this critical period. It's completely mind numbing.
Spatial disorientation is no joke. It takes training to fight what your body tells you is happening and instead, go by the site of the instrument in front of you. These guys should’ve known better. Trust your instruments, not your body. God bless all of them and their families.
Gulfair management has some serious questions to answer over this tragedy. How could they pair these 2 together incl a timid 1st officer with only 608 flight hours with a captain of only 86 hours experience in command! That's asking for trouble.
In many cases the behavior of pilot monitoring is surprising. Ok, the captain is disoriented and makes a mistake manually flying the plane. Pilot monitoring in the critical phases of the flight is exactly what is there to prevent something like this from happening.
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Extreme incompetence? Seems like the captain missed all the obvious cue points, starting with initial instructions from control tower, while the junior co-pilot was completely outside his range of experience. I'm likely to be extremely reluctant to fly on any future Gulf Air flights. RIP to all who perished . . .
I think the real issue here was the non standard 360 orbit initiated way too close to the runway. When this failed it put the Captain under excess stress and disorientation from which he never recovered, the first officer didn’t have the experience or the personality to contradict the Captain. This is why we have std missed approaches which in this case should have been initiated 6 or 7 miles out and if followed would have been almost routine on a clear calm night. Perhaps we could ask if the unreasonable pressure felt by the Captain to try to pull off a dangerous approach was a personal flaw or created in any part by culture within the airline?
It was (eventually) a missed-approach. After the circling maneuver (which, had the crew initiated a standard-rate turn would have gone off smoothly enough) the pilots recognized that they had overshot the extended centerline and thus declared a missed approach. After breaking off over the shoreline they faced out into a moonless seascape with no reference point visible. Instead of going back onto auto-pilot and letting the computers do the flying, the captain attempted to hand-fly out over the Gulf, and got disoriented. Crash followed. Turning on the autopilot and dialling in 3,000 feet would have avoided this.
@@jvaneck8991 I agree that use of the autopilot could have helped to reduce workload and given the Captain time to catch up with the aircraft. Having watched again I still feel they should have declared a missed approach at the Approach Fix (11:10 in the video), by the time the Captain started the orbit he was way to close to the runway (less than 1 mile). I know how hard it is to catch up once you get behind an aircraft and I think it was the decision made at the Approach Fix that resulted in a chain of events and the final tragedy.
This is just one of many reasons I don't fly anymore. You don't know who is in the cockpit. All the safety features of the modern aircraft and they still screw up royally.
This is the most heinous and egregious crash ever. Only the worst of the worst can fly a perfectly good airplane into the ground/sea. This is CFIT at its worst. The captain didn’t deserve a drivers license. How in the actual F does this happen? How many instructors looked the other way? How negligent was the carrier? Wow just wow
I'm not a pilot, but when the tower told them they were cleared for 3,500, and they were at 7,000, it's time to request a course to bleed that altitude safely. You don't need to be a pilot to have sense.
You are correct,they ended up not knowing where they were especially since runway lights were no longer visible.Surely they completed that 360° loop in under 1 minute
@@niku30504 True that it is not normal. But it is not against any rules or procedures. The Airbus is one of the most idiot proof airliners in the sky, should not have been an issue
"News spread quickly". That was an understatement. I was at the airport at the time. Within minutes the roads approaching the airport were packed. Half of the island seemed to be heading for the area.
In 2001 after this accident, I joined a ship that was used in the body recovery job and salvage. I heard a lot of stories from the crew. I have flown in and out of Bahrain many times, on Gulf Air. I was told by a GA Employee that after this accident that they would have change the pilot crew make up.
i am from bahrain, i live really close to where the crash happened, my dad told me when the crash happened it was so crowded and he saw floating bodies and the wing of the plane floating with many ambulances and screams
Hello there! Just a reminder: for Airbus aircraft we use the term “auto thrust”, the term you used “auto throttle” is only for Boeing aircraft. Lots of lack of procedures in this case and many other factors, truly sad. Cheers!
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It all started with terrible non-standard phraseology by ATC. You can read it at 07:00. Also the narrator tells how the previous controller cleared for the descent by also freaking non-standard: "three point five approved" ... which was not recognized by the aircrew as a descent clearance. Simply terrible communication standards by ATC and all the following neglectance of both pilots to simply follow standard procedures. No excuses to both parties here! 😢
@AirCrashInvestigation Strangely today, another popular channel called « Green Dot Aviation » just released his take on the incident of Gulf Air 072, I’m sure it’s just a coincidence
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Absolutely wild flying, almost unbelievable they would get that low in a turn like that. Makes me think they didn't really understand what the flaps do.
Just. appalling airmanship and professionalism. Very poor standard from Gulf Air. Unstable Too fast Too high... Who checked out this new Captain??? He hasn't got a clue...
Hmmm, it seems a chronic pork insufficiency is directly related to subpar aviation skills. Or is it the fact that those guys come from an utterly corrupt society where you BUY your ATPL instead of earning it? Where you don't have to learn how to land an airplane, flying it (more or less) is enough?
Thinking you're climbing when actually you're doing CFIT into open water, is a very hard to make mistake in an Airbus. There is something causual missing in this story.
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Day 1 of asking for a video of the crash that accured On January 25, 2010, Ethiopian Airlines Flight 409, a Boeing 737-800, crashed into the Mediterranean Sea shortly after taking off from Beirut, Lebanon
Where do you even begin to unpack this one? This is so off-the-chart messed up it's inconceivable that either pilot had a license, let alone any time or experience operating an aircraft. You couldn't intentionally screw up to this extent if you tried.
I heard a cade where a fighter jet took off of a aircraft carrier and the pilot thought the aircraft was stalling so he pushed the nose down. When you have no lights or horizon line, heavy work-load, or lack of training then, using your senses instead of relying on your instruments is apparently a common thing
FAR's in the U.S. do not allow the pairing of two inexperienced pilots until the Captain has at least 100 PIC in the aircraft. In addition, the minimums are increased by one half mile visibility and the Minimum Descent Altitude is increased by 100 feet for the approach.
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The other factor is with Muslim pilots, when they recognize things aren't going well or there is an emergency, they don't necessarily try to fix things, revert to training or emergency procedures but rather they turn it over to God to handle it (Tawakkul).
Having spent several years in that part of the world training those guys, I can attest to that! Not all, of course, but enough to be a worry for any knowledgeable passenger.
This genuinely pisses me off. I wouldn’t trust these guys to ride my bicycle. How can one be trained THIS extensively yet hate aviation so much that one refuses to learn basic IFR flying? You’ve got HUGE screens in front of you as large as your face (not even a six pack jet; it has SCREENS), but you ignore them, ONLY rely on your senses, and ignore *every single PULL UP warning* at night? No excuses for these pilots at all. Total incompetence. Also flaps full while manoeuvring? How are these guys even pilots? This is sickening and an insult to pilots worldwide, just like Air France 447. They must have hated flying if they were THAT bad at it.
I don't fly commercial airlines anymore and this is one reason why. When you and the family walk onto the aluminum tube, you assume the flight crew are competent professionals, but you never know until it's too late if you made the correct decision. Incompetence has embedded itself into every facet of our lives including the aviation industry. Acceptance of mediocrity due to political correctness, social norms, and inclusion has dumbed down every fabric of our society.
My Dad had three filled flight type ratings cards so to say he was a high -time pilot is an understatement. Even he got a case of vertigo in the middle of a truly boring flight. It took about 5 minutes to clear out. The copilot was a good SIC.
I could see the missed approach if you weren't familiar with the airport but to leave the flaps fully extended constantly and not paying attention to the speed or altitude seems like the pilot was badly confused. The copilot didn't speak up because of poor crew management? I've heard back then middle eastern flight crews were very rank focused with copilots treating the pilot like they are unquestionable.
Im certainly not a pilot but, there are instruments and warning features, both audible and visual, for a reason. If the pilot thought they were climbing but they were really descending why not look at the attitude indicator and altimeter that would CLEARLY point out they were descending? When I'm driving my truck and I want to know fast I'm going I don't assume I'm not speeding by the "feel" of the truck, I look at my speedometer. It's incomprehensible why the pilot didn't look down at his instruments to assure the plane was doing what he wanted it to do.
From Manufacturer to airlines, everything is made to save money. Plane crashes are less likely than lethal car accident. But most plane crashes are due to human errors. The need for serious and responsible trainings need to be enforced.
Would be nice to see you speak about the Banat Air 166 incident of 1995 in Verona, where I live. You can find more information on the Italian version of the Wikipedia page, just translate
This might be a stupid question but when I'm doing something wrong in a video game, usually the game will tell me. Or if I make a wrong turn driving, the GPS is the first to let me know. Can't the autopilot or whatever chime in and tell the pilot "Dude, what the hell are you doing?"
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In addition to my comment, you can read the whole transcription of the voice recorder in the linked document in 4. Appendix B. Check this insanely terrible wording of ATC: "Affirmative. Three approvals you have: Direct for One Two. Three point five approved. One Two Seven Eight Five approved." Readback was: "Gulf Air 072 confirm we can go for Runway One Two." 😮
Hi everyone. The pilots did not performed as they were expected to do. On this day they were not competent! I will not criticize the pilots because they have been criticized enough. Now what was the responsibility of the airline in pairing inexperienced crew together. In the airline Operation Manual A, they have a chapter regarding pairing and scheduling inexperienced crew together. It is the responsibility of Crew Control, fleet management pilot, COO and the pilots themselves self to verify they are complying with this chapter. And unfortunately they failed to comply with that. And in reality the accident started at the crew reporting time for the flight to CAI.
Pilots with around 3500 to 4500 hours are most dangerous. They think that they did it all and have the experience. It not said all are dangerous but the attitude build on success is a human factor that most do not reconsider nor recognise. I have flow with many young men training them. It’s clear to me as data didn’t prove me wrong.
I couldn't finish watching the video as I could see where it was going to end in disaster. Got as far as 15:03. Bad crew fit with timid 1st officer. Not stabilized when on final. And I'm only a private pilot with 50 hours flight time! I wonder what the passengers were seeing and saying to each other.
Controller didnt have aircraft radar info to warn of overspeed??? No mention of f* circle the field nonprocedure maneuver ? Unqualify captain and 1st officer in instrument flight...
Sometimes you just wonder if the pilot's mind just warps to some alternate reality where all their actions are standard procedure and make perfect sense. It just seems that when a captain engages in fuckery, it's fully-dedicated fuckery.
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No excuses I’m no expert but this was a simple go around
Line up and land
The criminal negligence and incompetence of the two pilots in this incident is beyond belief - Ignore ATC instructions, ignore IFR/VFR protocols, ignore ECAM warnings, ignore GPWS warnings, ignore safety procedures..... Absolutely sickening.
Another world class video though, thank you!
i am from bahrain, i live really close to where the crash happened, my dad told me when the crash happened it was so crowded and he saw floating bodies and the wing of the plane floating with many ambulances and screams
Absolute incompetence
@@PistolP33 overconfidence.
I just wonder if this video tells the whole story, especially from the pilots perspective. At one point I was thinking they didnt knew where they really are.
@@Merilix2 Oh that's just great. We don't know where we are, can't see a damn thing, so let's just land. I sure am glad you're not a pilot.
Absolutely insane how a person with thousands of hours of experience completely fails to rely on his fully working instruments right in front of him. Being presented with a "stressful situation" is not a good enough excuse to throw logic and reason out the window. What a terrible pilot.
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I won't accept a human error explanation. That is just impossible.
It’s just a habit of pushing through exams by forcing the chances. He would have done a looping if he wanted to catch his wallet in the air.A complete fraud from A to Z.
Yeah, and on top of that, he was described as "sharp" by his colleagues.
There are many accidents of exactly the same nature that have happened over the years.A pilot trusts his feelings over his instruments which leads to a disaster.
I landed a Boeing 757 into Bahrain about 30 minutes before this accident. It was daylight then but very close to evening. The visibility was poor due to dust and haze; we (flight deck crew) commented how it looked like a low vis approach in a European winter rather than the Middle East in the summer.
Still no excuse for these guys though, right?
@@tedwalford7615 Very much no excuse at all.
@@tedwalford7615 No, no excuse. I'm not a pilot but I was shaking my head all the way through the narration of the landing approach. Much of it was just good sense thrown out the window. I mean like, do you land when you can't see a damn thing and you hear the ground proximity warning? No excuse.
Wow
It's a fine example of why it pays to be IFR certified. Where your brain and knowledge fails you, the computers will not. Only if the instruments are broken or displaying false information should you go VFR only.
Clearly being IFR certified was not enough.
The problem is that an instrument displaying false information not always will tell you so...see the crash of Aeroflot flight SU2003 on january 3rd 1976
Rubbish
@@janvanhaaster209350 years ago. There are still many more crashes due to pilot error than computer issues.
So you are saying international pilots flying an A320 are not IFR certified?
What amazes me about so many flight accidents is the strong tendency for pilots to disbelieve or ignore the instruments, warnings, etc. Why do they always believe they are right and the instruments, etc., aren’t working? That is rarely, if ever, the case, pilots always believe they are right when they’re making huge pilot errors. What egos we humans have.
It is called confirmation bias. All humans are wired to search for clues that confirm their belief, while disregarding the true situation. Its quite similar to how disinformation is spread. It also amazes me, but it is not an ego thing
To me it seems that there is also a factor of what the channel mentour pilot describes as “get-there-itis”: disregarding safe procedures to land sooner.
A big part of flying is being trained to believe your instruments and not your own body. But when you think about it, you’ve been believing your body your entire life so there is a bit of a natural instinct to overcome. Of course there’s also a lot of regulation, and rules that good pilots follow that these did not.
I’m not a pilot and I’m sure the various systems and processes required to fly a passenger jet are highly complex. But when an automated warning is telling you to pull up, don’t you just pull up rather than ignoring the warning?
Yes
Perhaps slight cognitive incapacitation there
i am from bahrain, i live really close to where the crash happened, my dad told me when the crash happened it was so crowded and he saw floating bodies and the wing of the plane floating with many ambulances and screams
Very odd. Wonder if the pilot just froze in a confused panic.
In normal situations you would indeed.
When landing in high elevation or between mountains you wouldn't necessarily. In fact sometimes they will turn off the altitude warning.
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I'm not a pilot but why was he flying on "feelings" when instruments were right in front of him?
Spatial disorientation is the number one killer for most pilots flying into the weather or in this scenario not having the horizon or city as a reference. That is why we train on unusual attitudes. It’s always a weird feeling whenever flying through the cloud’s.
You'd be surprised how often this happens....Colby Bryants helicopter pilot trusted his instincts and skill instead of his instruments in the fog.....
@@ismaelderas That is why the pilot monitoring should have been screaming at the top of his voice.
@@ismaelderas It seems like for the whole initial approach and subsequent approaches the crew never once had the aircraft in the right place or more importantly in the correct configuration, like not ever.
@@wilsjane Not in that culture!
I’m just left baffled with each of these stories that have a plot ‘believing the plane was nose up/ascending’ because of how it felt. Do they not have an attitude indicator right in front of their face? I can totally see how easy it could be to get disoriented based on your own senses, but why do they seem to ignore all the instruments that they know they’re supposed to rely on? That’s why those instruments are there! Otherwise an airplane would just have a huge glass windshield, a speedometer, and an altimeter.
The training is to believe the instruments, rather than your senses. When pilots ignore that training, this is what happens.
@@cremebrulee4759I agree. In many of these cases, I find myself screaming, "Look at your instruments!" But sometimes the instruments are faulty and misleading. Which is why they must also use visual cues (if possible). In this specific case, since visual cues were not possible given that it was completely dark, it baffles me that they even attempted to land. At the very least, ATC could have and should have assisted but there didn't seem to have been any communication at this critical period. It's completely mind numbing.
"a speedometer" 😂
@@MisterHowzatshhh please
@@MisterHowzat yeah, that is a seriously big speedo
Spatial disorientation is no joke. It takes training to fight what your body tells you is happening and instead, go by the site of the instrument in front of you. These guys should’ve known better. Trust your instruments, not your body. God bless all of them and their families.
Gulfair management has some serious questions to answer over this tragedy. How could they pair these 2 together incl a timid 1st officer with only 608 flight hours with a captain of only 86 hours experience in command! That's asking for trouble.
Management indeed is to blame. After this accident, only senior first officers are paired with new captains.
In many cases the behavior of pilot monitoring is surprising. Ok, the captain is disoriented and makes a mistake manually flying the plane. Pilot monitoring in the critical phases of the flight is exactly what is there to prevent something like this from happening.
Sorry but if your plane is telling you to "Pull Up" - you Pull TF up ASAP.
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Co pilot characteristics sounds like a typical Omani.
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Extreme incompetence? Seems like the captain missed all the obvious cue points, starting with initial instructions from control tower, while the junior co-pilot was completely outside his range of experience. I'm likely to be extremely reluctant to fly on any future Gulf Air flights. RIP to all who perished . . .
They haven't had any accident since 2001. I'm pretty sure they are one of the safest airlines to fly
How in the blue heck do you NOT pull up when the intrument that serves that VERY PURPOSE tells you "TERRAIN! TERRAIN! PULL UP! PULL UP!"!??!?
I think the real issue here was the non standard 360 orbit initiated way too close to the runway. When this failed it put the Captain under excess stress and disorientation from which he never recovered, the first officer didn’t have the experience or the personality to contradict the Captain. This is why we have std missed approaches which in this case should have been initiated 6 or 7 miles out and if followed would have been almost routine on a clear calm night. Perhaps we could ask if the unreasonable pressure felt by the Captain to try to pull off a dangerous approach was a personal flaw or created in any part by culture within the airline?
It was (eventually) a missed-approach. After the circling maneuver (which, had the crew initiated a standard-rate turn would have gone off smoothly enough) the pilots recognized that they had overshot the extended centerline and thus declared a missed approach. After breaking off over the shoreline they faced out into a moonless seascape with no reference point visible. Instead of going back onto auto-pilot and letting the computers do the flying, the captain attempted to hand-fly out over the Gulf, and got disoriented. Crash followed. Turning on the autopilot and dialling in 3,000 feet would have avoided this.
@@jvaneck8991 I agree that use of the autopilot could have helped to reduce workload and given the Captain time to catch up with the aircraft. Having watched again I still feel they should have declared a missed approach at the Approach Fix (11:10 in the video), by the time the Captain started the orbit he was way to close to the runway (less than 1 mile). I know how hard it is to catch up once you get behind an aircraft and I think it was the decision made at the Approach Fix that resulted in a chain of events and the final tragedy.
This is just one of many reasons I don't fly anymore. You don't know who is in the cockpit. All the safety features of the modern aircraft and they still screw up royally.
This is the most heinous and egregious crash ever. Only the worst of the worst can fly a perfectly good airplane into the ground/sea. This is CFIT at its worst. The captain didn’t deserve a drivers license. How in the actual F does this happen? How many instructors looked the other way? How negligent was the carrier? Wow just wow
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I'm not a pilot, but when the tower told them they were cleared for 3,500, and they were at 7,000, it's time to request a course to bleed that altitude safely.
You don't need to be a pilot to have sense.
Those guys shouldn't have been driving a bus, yet alone a plane. Thanks for the video. :)
LET alone. NOT yet!!!!
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Making a 360 within 1 nautical mile of runway is absolutely insane!
Why?
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Because it’s not how an airliner operates.
You are correct,they ended up not knowing where they were especially since runway lights were no longer visible.Surely they completed that 360° loop in under 1 minute
@@niku30504 True that it is not normal. But it is not against any rules or procedures. The Airbus is one of the most idiot proof airliners in the sky, should not have been an issue
@@stephenmapeka7774 they have instruments! A moving map and everything! Not insane. Not great technique either, poor situational awareness
"News spread quickly". That was an understatement. I was at the airport at the time. Within minutes the roads approaching the airport were packed. Half of the island seemed to be heading for the area.
@@b.nichols3255 Wow!
In 2001 after this accident, I joined a ship that was used in the body recovery job and salvage. I heard a lot of stories from the crew. I have flown in and out of Bahrain many times, on Gulf Air. I was told by a GA Employee that after this accident that they would have change the pilot crew make up.
Stupid people are everywhere, in all walks of life. So sickening.
i am from bahrain, i live really close to where the crash happened, my dad told me when the crash happened it was so crowded and he saw floating bodies and the wing of the plane floating with many ambulances and screams
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Pilot rostering,inexperienced captain ( 86 cmd hrs) and inexperienced copilot (608 hrs).The airline should know better.
They should not have been allowed to fly together.
Sad but true. After this accident, only senior first officers are paired with new captains.
Guys, our pilot has done it again, please watch and tell others
Hello there! Just a reminder: for Airbus aircraft we use the term “auto thrust”, the term you used “auto throttle” is only for Boeing aircraft.
Lots of lack of procedures in this case and many other factors, truly sad.
Cheers!
Never seen such Inkompetent pilots, thats Why i would never fly by an non western airline
I’m from Bahrain and thanks for covering this case in great detail. A horrific accident that shocked our small nation
Another excellent and informative video with superb graphics. Definitely now the best air accident investigation channel on TH-cam, along with Mentour Pilot.
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Thanks! :D
RIP
To the passengers and crew of Gulf Air Flight 072
It all started with terrible non-standard phraseology by ATC. You can read it at 07:00. Also the narrator tells how the previous controller cleared for the descent by also freaking non-standard: "three point five approved" ... which was not recognized by the aircrew as a descent clearance. Simply terrible communication standards by ATC and all the following neglectance of both pilots to simply follow standard procedures. No excuses to both parties here! 😢
Great video. Just the facts. Unfortunately 😮
@AirCrashInvestigation Strangely today, another popular channel called « Green Dot Aviation » just released his take on the incident of Gulf Air 072, I’m sure it’s just a coincidence
I think so, too! Such videos require weeks of preparation and research.
Well done, channel owner. All the best to you. You have brought us these details of the unfortunate accident of Gulf Air Flight 72. Because this accident was not broadcasted in the media except in the Kingdom of Bahrain.👏👏👏👏👏
Absolutely wild flying, almost unbelievable they would get that low in a turn like that. Makes me think they didn't really understand what the flaps do.
Just. appalling airmanship and professionalism.
Very poor standard from Gulf Air.
Unstable Too fast Too high...
Who checked out this new Captain???
He hasn't got a clue...
Hmmm, it seems a chronic pork insufficiency is directly related to subpar aviation skills.
Or is it the fact that those guys come from an utterly corrupt society where you BUY your ATPL instead of earning it? Where you don't have to learn how to land an airplane, flying it (more or less) is enough?
Thinking you're climbing when actually you're doing CFIT into open water, is a very hard to make mistake in an Airbus. There is something causual missing in this story.
Bravo! Thank you for respecting true speeds and for avoiding epic music,
Genuinely one of the highest quality and underrated channels in this realm of videos. I watch a bunch of different channels and always find myself coming back to this one.
Thanks mate!
Will never know what he was thinking when the warning sounded Pull up! Pull up!
These videos always say the #1 priority…just fly the plane.
And that, children is why we don't consider the seat of our pants to be a reliable precise flight instrument.
Quality research, descriptions, and narration; well done. 🏆🏆
Thank you kindly!
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Day 1 of asking for a video of the crash that accured On January 25, 2010, Ethiopian Airlines Flight 409, a Boeing 737-800, crashed into the Mediterranean Sea shortly after taking off from Beirut, Lebanon
Me stumbling on this channel randomly, subscribing and watching the Ad fully because, good job mate.
Awesome, thank you!
I would walk across the desert in the summer to get to that destination before I would board most Middle East airlines...
Where do you even begin to unpack this one?
This is so off-the-chart messed up it's inconceivable that either pilot had a license, let alone any time or experience operating an aircraft. You couldn't intentionally screw up to this extent if you tried.
Yeah when I reached the part where the plane crashed & killed everyone I thought "wut?"
I heard a cade where a fighter jet took off of a aircraft carrier and the pilot thought the aircraft was stalling so he pushed the nose down. When you have no lights or horizon line, heavy work-load, or lack of training then, using your senses instead of relying on your instruments is apparently a common thing
FAR's in the U.S. do not allow the pairing of two inexperienced pilots until the Captain has at least 100 PIC in the aircraft. In addition, the minimums are increased by one half mile visibility and the Minimum Descent Altitude is increased by 100 feet for the approach.
Two words - Follow Procedures (thats why they are there)
Appalling Gulf Air training standards..
An over promoted national who just had absolutely no idea of professional. aviation and correct procedure.
You're my new favorite channel, dear good mister! Keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
I absolutely love these videos man so comprehensive... if you were to set up a patreon or simliar to help you or something I would totally subscribe! keep it up :)
I appreciate that! 💛
You’re almost at 100k!
So close!
When does the next episode come?
Monday
The other factor is with Muslim pilots, when they recognize things aren't going well or there is an emergency, they don't necessarily try to fix things, revert to training or emergency procedures but rather they turn it over to God to handle it (Tawakkul).
Good point. My friend and I have noticed this on many occasions.
Having spent several years in that part of the world training those guys, I can attest to that! Not all, of course, but enough to be a worry for any knowledgeable passenger.
We shall land safely insha'Allah!
The God did handle it. Gave them permanent visa in heaven. 😂
I worked for an Arab Air Force and flat refused to fly with an Arab pilot 😢
FFS , similar on what happened to PIA. Do they really a pilot or they bought a fake pilot license?
New sub. Very professionally done. I hope this channel becomes very popular.
Thanks for the sub!
was looking for mayday air crash but found this , surprisingly pleased ! excellent content look forward to more !
Thanks!
Really like these videos and I also really like the voice over you use for them
It’s really interesting content
Glad you like them!
Looks like the flying scene from the Minions film
Pilot was trying to drift with the unorthodox left turn over runway instead of following protocol. Silly, immature & unprofessional 😢
This genuinely pisses me off. I wouldn’t trust these guys to ride my bicycle. How can one be trained THIS extensively yet hate aviation so much that one refuses to learn basic IFR flying? You’ve got HUGE screens in front of you as large as your face (not even a six pack jet; it has SCREENS), but you ignore them, ONLY rely on your senses, and ignore *every single PULL UP warning* at night? No excuses for these pilots at all. Total incompetence. Also flaps full while manoeuvring? How are these guys even pilots? This is sickening and an insult to pilots worldwide, just like Air France 447. They must have hated flying if they were THAT bad at it.
I don't fly commercial airlines anymore and this is one reason why. When you and the family walk onto the aluminum tube, you assume the flight crew are competent professionals, but you never know until it's too late if you made the correct decision. Incompetence has embedded itself into every facet of our lives including the aviation industry. Acceptance of mediocrity due to political correctness, social norms, and inclusion has dumbed down every fabric of our society.
How does an airline crew pilot have only 600 total hours?
500 hours gets you into the right seat.
@@jvaneck8991only in third world countries
My Dad had three filled flight type ratings cards so to say he was a high -time pilot is an understatement. Even he got a case of vertigo in the middle of a truly boring flight. It took about 5 minutes to clear out. The copilot was a good SIC.
love these graphics!
I could see the missed approach if you weren't familiar with the airport but to leave the flaps fully extended constantly and not paying attention to the speed or altitude seems like the pilot was badly confused. The copilot didn't speak up because of poor crew management? I've heard back then middle eastern flight crews were very rank focused with copilots treating the pilot like they are unquestionable.
This is quality content. Cannot believe it’s free. Thank you
Thanks!
great channel but why use a different voice than your own for the voice overs?
My voice does not fit this type of video
Another excellent video
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Atc will never say "from 090 degrees at 8 knots".
Edit, these pilots must have been drunk or on drugs. Should have been below 250 ages alrdy.
Im certainly not a pilot but, there are instruments and warning features, both audible and visual, for a reason. If the pilot thought they were climbing but they were really descending why not look at the attitude indicator and altimeter that would CLEARLY point out they were descending? When I'm driving my truck and I want to know fast I'm going I don't assume I'm not speeding by the "feel" of the truck, I look at my speedometer. It's incomprehensible why the pilot didn't look down at his instruments to assure the plane was doing what he wanted it to do.
From Manufacturer to airlines, everything is made to save money.
Plane crashes are less likely than lethal car accident.
But most plane crashes are due to human errors. The need for serious and responsible trainings need to be enforced.
Would be nice to see you speak about the Banat Air 166 incident of 1995 in Verona, where I live. You can find more information on the Italian version of the Wikipedia page, just translate
This might be a stupid question but when I'm doing something wrong in a video game, usually the game will tell me. Or if I make a wrong turn driving, the GPS is the first to let me know. Can't the autopilot or whatever chime in and tell the pilot "Dude, what the hell are you doing?"
I liked the photography and graphics. Because it is close to reality. Because this designer is very genius. Because this designer gave me the atmosphere of the disaster of flight 72.👏👏👏👏👏
Very good graphics. Be sure to have RW a320ceo check for accuracy. 3-4 places with misinformation.
In addition to my comment, you can read the whole transcription of the voice recorder in the linked document in 4. Appendix B. Check this insanely terrible wording of ATC: "Affirmative. Three approvals you have: Direct for One Two. Three point five approved. One Two Seven Eight Five approved." Readback was: "Gulf Air 072 confirm we can go for Runway One Two." 😮
That is what I call crappy flying. As a Cessna 152 pilot, I could have done better if I had never before set foot in that airplane!!! Db
Runway lights off
No communication with tower
Attempted landing in the dark
What could possibly go wrong?
Hi everyone. The pilots did not performed as they were expected to do. On this day they were not competent! I will not criticize the pilots because they have been criticized enough. Now what was the responsibility of the airline in pairing inexperienced crew together. In the airline Operation Manual A, they have a chapter regarding pairing and scheduling inexperienced crew together. It is the responsibility of Crew Control, fleet management pilot, COO and the pilots themselves self to verify they are complying with this chapter. And unfortunately they failed to comply with that. And in reality the accident started at the crew reporting time for the flight to CAI.
Pilots with around 3500 to 4500 hours are most dangerous. They think that they did it all and have the experience.
It not said all are dangerous but the attitude build on success is a human factor that most do not reconsider nor recognise. I have flow with many young men training them. It’s clear to me as data didn’t prove me wrong.
I couldn't finish watching the video as I could see where it was going to end in disaster. Got as far as 15:03. Bad crew fit with timid 1st officer. Not stabilized when on final. And I'm only a private pilot with 50 hours flight time! I wonder what the passengers were seeing and saying to each other.
Controller didnt have aircraft radar info to warn of overspeed??? No mention of f* circle the field nonprocedure maneuver ? Unqualify captain and 1st officer in instrument flight...
Sometimes you just wonder if the pilot's mind just warps to some alternate reality where all their actions are standard procedure and make perfect sense. It just seems that when a captain engages in fuckery, it's fully-dedicated fuckery.
Yep. Many of those pilots really are that bad, lacking even basic fundamental understanding of the aircraft, it's systems and the science of flight. 😢