I've managed to keep the obsession and compulsion at bay for a few years, but my daughter and granddaughter is moving out to their own place this weekend and I'm scared of the loneliness. Loneliness was exactly where my drinking started decades ago. The drinking thoughts have already crept back in. Thanks for your videos.
@dionel8 I can totally relate, I believe the only reason I haven’t gone back to drinking is because I haven’t been alone in over 35 yrs and now my son is in college and I’ve finally found AA - this has been informative - I want what the program promises - I’m so tired of the obsession - it’s been in the form of food for the past 20 plus years and my health has suffered because of it. I truly believe that God (as I understand Him) put me in AA to prevent a relapse - if I take it seriously, and I’m working ok - I hope to have what the Big Book promises - what everyone boasts about - true sanity!! I’m only 45 days in so far, how are you doing? I see this was about a year ago - would love to hear from you - would you check in?
Thanks for sharing this. Congratulations on getting this far and on choosing to be vulnerable enough to share your experience. You are definitely helping us experience the power within and finally get our awakening so please keep sharing.
Ego is the problem, same for all spiritual teachings. The 12 steps deflate the ego as much as the effort out into them. All steps build humility, the greatest tool against the ego. Step 2, also says, we are not the power greater than anything. The ego loves to think it is the power, the nature of the ego is survival, therefore it’s selfish, self centred in its core, is where all fear arises hence, it is the core problem.
@@chrish7969 yes, so it is worded that way for the egotistical to begin to open the door and let in the light. All power is God, or the field, or consciousness or Love and light. All faiths say the same thing once we see through the dogmatic rules of early people’s egos. The ego wants to claim that power, hangs onto the illusion of separation. God is everything or it is nothing, we are in God, God is in us. Such as proven in the double split experiment. A soul is a piece of Source. All is God
This was really really helpful!! I really enjoyed this and it really explains the steps in a different way kind of, than how my sponsor showed me. And I like it!! Why on earth does this only have 86 views??? Oh my goodness!!! This needs to be shown to every newcomer who walks into a hall!!! Like orientation at a new place of work.
Thank you for taking the time and explaining these steps the way you did. I will be saving this video to help aid in taking these steps. May you continue to help others just like you have me tonight. God Bless you sir.
Joining "A" Home Group helped me immensely. So grateful for my being brought into all three Legacies from the get go... 01/03/91 and remaining active in all three which I will never outgrow... Nice, well done presentation... TY 💖
I can confirm that this program works for those that want it. I am still an atheist, now happy with life and feel so free. I am now in my 18th year of sobriety.
Hi I'm Paul and I'm an alcoholic I believe I still have the spiritual maladie even though I've been sober 5 and a years because I never worked the twelve steps properly even though I went through them with a sponsor that has been sober for 35 years. It's not his fault it's mine I never was completely honest with him or made amendments properly or truly believe in a higher power , I'm glad I watched these videos it's helped me see where I'm going wrong , now I have to put a few things right and work on my own ego 👍 .
Hi Paul, I don't want to steer you wrong because it sounds like you've had some wonderful insights. I'm just concerned that AA can encourage us to beat ourselves up too much, and that doesn't work, at least not for me. That patronizing and oppression, the interpretation of everything is my fault, I'm innately selfish, and I have to be self deprecating and self depriving I think is something that will make people more prone to distance themselves eventually and probably relapse, because it's using the 12 step principles, such as taking responsibility, aggressively and spinning them into shame. Shame is deadly and keeps us from real progress and change. And a lot of our symptoms or I suppose "character defects" can be things we were taught or responses to trauma. Therefore, this perspective that we are selfish at the core is not true for many of us, and it's a harmful, downgrading, and oppressive message for our souls. There might be really narcissistic, manipulative people and people who committed crimes and severe abuse against others who might be a better fit for that intense and aggressive approach, but not all of us.
@@noellegrace_Purrriah I've a feeling your right, I do tend to be far to hash on myself which in turn leaves me down and depressed , I know that I stopped drinking because I joined AA but I'm not sure what I'm getting from it now , I'm finding it is making me more self conscious and that's not good for me. I dont need to remind myself that drink fucks me up every time but the danger for me is when I'm not good with my mental health I feel like fucking my self up and I don't care about anything or anybody and I don't truly know how I've got through things when I've been like that I suppose it just passes some how but at the time it feels like it's never ending when I'm not like that I'm a good family man a pretty good husband and father and have a good sense of humour but that all goes when the head goes , I think that's when I need AA but I'm not sure anymore.
52 1/2 years sober. Love to listine to all that think they are better than other. When Clarence Snyder took me through the steps and taught me to apply the 12 steps, the 12 traditions and the 12 concepts
Ive had many spiritual awakenings last year i sat the worst hell ever i didn't give up i made it multiple yrs in recovery only by working hard on myself and keeping myself positive and working on things more better
I have 34 years of sobriety. Best years of my life..my family have benefitted and they are not members ..I don’t have a higher power or get on my knees nor do gratitude lists I have a home group and never miss it if possible..I love the AA way of life due to,its lack of dogma ..it was inclusive of all since its inception years ago. Ask for help and you will find it..I did 30 years service in the local prison and most members were atheist….great people.
Individually Chosen Recovery is a predictor of effectiveness. AA will likely work for those who feel it addresses their concerns. It can also harm and often kills people in practice because of it's singular belief that Empowerment is only found in Abstinence. For many reasons, it is important to understand Internal pain points to Intervene effectively. Health Realization, Empowerment based methods and a knowledge of our own experience of Trauma is Essential to Any effective Recovery. Video looks great. I caution all of us to find what speaks to us and works for us without the double whammy/threat of 'sinning' or 'failing' as the only alternative to salvation. Especially if that is being reinforced by people still sick and suffering from underlying neglected trauma and expressing it in a different way post-abstinence/'salvation'
@@lauriesmith8631 ive been around recovery, writing essays, etc for like 15 years, and somehow i have never seen it as simply put as that. not only is it "most any program can work", it is, "the most effective program is the one YOU CHOOSE". i mean, i guess its like the saying "the best program is the one you do", but still there is a lot buried in the idea that the most efficacious program for each individual is the one that they choose. so few people are offered a choice, but when you have a choice of several paths, of COURSE a person is going to choose the one that best aligns with their morals or whatever. but like... fuck, leave it up to 12 steps to create a dumb situation where morals have to be considered at all
@@lauriesmith8631 I don't understand why you are linking Alcoholism to Trauma. If traumatic experiences caused alcoholism there would be alcoholics everywhere and that's not the case. Only Alcoholics have the illness of alcoholism and in most cases they have it prior to drinking irrespective of their upbringing.
@@steve002025 do you Specialize in Trauma? I do. I also Specialize in Effective approaches for its resulting MH and SUD diagnosis. For 20 years. Ive also seen the far reaching and Generational outcomes of equating behaviors to moral failings and resulting criminalization of such. AA is an effecrive method...for a few. It is not and was never meant to be the only one. Even Bill W would have admitted that. Yet we rely on mandating this in the court systems, illegal loophole. Why might we do that? 🤔🤯🤦 Healing happens in many ways...but a Substance never caused as much damage as humans full of their own outwardly expressed Fears.
The point should not be to lose the desire. The desire to drink is a SURVIVAL drive for pleasure. The force of life. The point should be to recognize the desire as separate from yourself. Because it is. And realizing that will truly set you free.
Can anyone please tell me if it’s truly worth it. I’m alone and cannot go back to the rehab center I was forced into. It was just like prison all over again.
There are other ways, and you can do it on your own, contrary to cultural beliefs. Look into Rational Recovery/AVRT and Jack Trimpey. It can assist you in saving your own life. Best of luck to you.
BTW, big fan. I like your work. Excellent production and well stated. Congratulations. BUT (there's always a but with assholes like me) @ 8:10 You say "Step 10 is a maintenance step." That is another one of those meeting slogans that not only is NOT in the book, it directly contradicts what the book says. "This thought brings us to Step Ten, which suggests we continue to take personal inventory and continue to set right any new mistakes as we go along. We vigorously commenced this way of living as we cleaned up the past. We have entered the world of the Spirit. Our next function is to grow in understanding and effectiveness." Clearly step 10 is a "GROWTH" step. "Our next" (after step 9) "function is to GROW in understanding and effectiveness." The awakenings you experienced in 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 are the foundation upon which this growth occurs. 4) "Continue to watch for selfishness, dishonesty, resentment, and fear." Steps 6 & 7) "When these crop up, we ask God at once to remove them." Step 5} "We discuss them with someone immediately..." Steps 8 & 9) "and make amends quickly if we have harmed anyone." Step 12) "Then we resolutely turn our thoughts to someone we can help." (page 84 anonpress.org/bb/Page_84.htm ) "God will constantly disclose more to you and to us." anonpress.org/bb/Page_164.htm God bless and thanks for you service. (sd: 10-19-1987)
Admit your're an alcoholic, turn your will over to God, clean house and help others! 4 steps. That's what I learned. Been sober 21 years. I've watched almost everyone fail who didn't do these 4 important steps. I've sponsored people who could just not understand that the founders got these guys sober with the help of God in 2 weeks!
AA and NA have helped millions of people. Step 1 is important because you cant recover if you dont admit that you have a problem. AA is not a cult demanding your money. AA is a fellowship of people who value sobriety more than addiction. No one will blame or shame you. AA will welcome you
one thing in this you kind of have a bit wrong and thats saying that you had to do it " for the rest of your life " well I'll just say in my experience its "one day at a time " thats all we have to worry about. Not "for the rest of our life " for some people you say it that way and they think, fuck that, I cant do that.
thats the problem when the trasnformation isnt deep enough. for me its other non religious and diferetn terminologie like "intent momentum" but they say power and maintainance. for me its if i see the alchool i instantly scream NO in me and it owrk, cause i cannot not lisent the screaming order. its about how we let ego inner talk decide pathetic faith or we decide to be epci every single second and observe the ego talk conving us . brain dopamine see beer - convince ego to convince us to buy beer- "ohhh we could just get a sip" - transofrm the dopamine need trough SELF manipulative ego talk. The real self get the message from the manipulative ego that want dopamine "i have excuse to impose and order, so the true self will accept poison to itself so the ego can be calmer with the phisical mental spiritual addiction-problem, therefore "ohhh we could only drink 1 beer we deserve it" . there is no we! the true self vs the ego trip manipulation that know us very well. the demons arnt only outside !
Intensive work with others living in steps 10 11 12. Will keep you well. We do recover ❤ we do them first 11 steps to do good 12 step work. That’s not just my experience it’s the facts ❤🙏🏿🧘📕
Hi, I was wondering if you'd be interested giving me some Advice on making addiction videos. I really like your style and have been trying to figure out how to share my store this way.
You don't, really. You are only responsible for the honest effort. And you change the behavior that created the need for the amends. They may not be talking to you now. But you never know what the future brings. More shall be revealed. When they are ready, so should you be.
Write a letter. If they chose not too respond it is on them. You can only do your part. Maybe we hurt them so much they decided to move on and can't forgive, or it will take time. ODAAT ❤🙏
Can’t even share from the big book now The great obsession of EVERY alcoholic is the desire to drink like the normal drinker The depressives have taken over the fellowship. (Can’t live without alchohol)
Do not allow yourself to either think about or talk about any real or imagined pleasure you once did get from drinking. Look for sober people and you will find them.
The Big Book calls out God and the creator as the higher power, God as we understand him. The 12 steps are designed to teach us how to die to ourselves and end the self-centeredness we all are born with. The reality is Jesus Christ is that God, we simply need to understand him by reading the scriptures, pray with humility, receive his freely given grace and see him as the creator in Genesis as well as the sin on the cross. The wages of sin is death, and Jesus is the power that resurrects us and cures the disease of alcoholism. Thank you for the well made videos David.
Yes, and the 12 Steps clears the conduit to God. As an alcoholic, I lost contact with God and alcohol took His place. I needed a way to have that relationship with my Savior but didn’t know how to do it. The purpose of the 12 Steps is to put me back in touch with God. God was there but I was not open to Him. I know several atheists that are now Christians because of AA. But that’s not to say this is a Christian program.
The dr and bill dont talk about this Higher power After step 2 they talk about a god as we see god as our higher power 1 2 3 then a god as i see it. This is what makes the 12 steps a miracle its spiritual growth
I am glad you are not praising Bill Wilson for he never achieved sobriety. He messed around with lsd and other mind altering drugs the remainder of his life and only experiencing abstinence from alcohol. He really became a quack of sorts. However I am grateful to God for using Wilson
Yeah, they're now finding hallucinogens are beneficial in recovery. The only requirement for membership in AA is a desire to stop drinking. You must of forgot about that!
using wolf of wallstreet clips is insane to me for this video, as those clips used the characters were heavily abusing substances. Most of the movie was about their level of substance abuse.
I don't recommend this video. Right off the bat..."It took fearless courage". This makes no sense. If fear is not a factor, if fear is not present then courage isn't required. Courage is always in the presence of fear. This is one of the worst descriptions of the 12 steps I've found on youtube. Talk about self-centered...he doesn't describe the 12 steps as written in the Big Book or 12 & 12, but rather his own self-centered perspective. He goes on and on about himself. He doesn't even talk about his sponsor who helped him. He doesn't even state what each step is.
What do you want to debate. AA works for alcoholics this is fact. AA is an evidence based program shared from people with lived experience. There would be no debate because AA doesn't need to prove anything to anyone.
Not sure what the debate would be. He kind of tip toeing around the word God and maybe used the ‘Power inside of you’ instead. He explained it pretty good for people who don’t know what the Steps are about.
It’s funny even after this video - people still think the meetings and the steps are the same thing 🤦♂️. The meetings = the fellowship. The steps = the program. The steps will give you permanent sobriety so long as you continue to work them. The meetings without the steps are like sands through an hourglass until your next drink. Step 12 - having had a spiritual awakening as the result of “these steps”… notice it doesn’t say meetings? Meetings are good - but they do not and never have and were never designed to produce the vital spiritual experience needed to overcome this disease. spiritual experience as defined in the back of the book: personality change sufficient to overcome alcoholism. The change happens through the steps - and only through the steps. Without taking inventory and making amends your conscience is dirty and your spirit is at dis-ease and without the thorough housecleaning provided in steps 4+5 and 8+9 you will remain too restless irritable and discontent to not drink. If you are alcoholic and avoid the steps long enough, you will either drink, find another substance to “take the edge off”, work the 12 steps, or blow your brains out. Sounds harsh, but I can’t think of any alternatives, if you’re alcoholic. If you aren’t, it doesn’t matter.
You lost me between your first video and this second one. You said the original 100 got sober without a big fellowship. They also only originally had 6 steps. So I guess what I’m trying to say-is in the first video you tell how AA changed, and their statistics of keeping people clean are dropping lower and lower- and what changed. Yet, the steps themselves have even changed. Which in this video - you make no mention of. So is AA better or worse now for it?
Hi Nancy, I didn’t see the first video but it sounds like he was talking about the early days. That was a growing period. By the time the Big Book was published, the 6 steps from the Oxford Group expanded to the 12 Steps. The Oxford Group was a religious group, they had the blue print for what became the AA program. The statics of people getting sober were and I believe still accurate. They are watered down today because of courts sending people to AA that don’t want to get sober and others that don’t “really try”. See the Forward to the Second Edition of the Big Book. The program is the same and it still works. Do the steps with a good sponsor and do them from the Big Book.
You broke Tradition 11. Your still being selfish and self centered; the traditions are there for a reason. Great illustration of your journey. But you have to remember it’s your journey and although your journey has been awakened other people’s journey will be different and may be offensive to some watching this video.
Being “offended” is not a legitimate argument. When you think about it, ANY new idea, or insight that differs from our own perspective has the propensity to offend. It is by opening our mind to new ideas that we grow as human beings.
I recommend you read chapter to the agnostics, all AA asks is you have a willingness to believe in. Power greater then yourself, why not make it gravity ? You can't see, smell, taste, touch, or hear gravity! But we all have 100% faith in a force we only experience
Why...my god, why would you overload something, that is so profound and important with such cheesy imagery and narative? Are you trying to divert people from this method? The steps are no game. They are not a steping stone for you to get youtube revenue. Show some respect.
I wanted to share a resource that has been incredibly helpful in my recovery journey using the 12 steps program. The book, [12 Steps Workbook for Women: A Positive Approach to Step Work for Recovery and Sobriety], has provided me with invaluable insights and practical guidance, making a significant difference in my progress. The author's compassionate approach and clear explanations have made the 12 steps more accessible and meaningful. I highly recommend this book to anyone seeking support and direction in their recovery. It's a powerful tool that can truly make a positive impact. The author also have a workbook for Men titled [12 Steps Workbook for Men: A Guide to Sobriety, Recovery, and Overcoming Addiction while Building Emotional Resilience and Restoring Self-Esteem]
Just got back from my first AA meeting , I have this big blue book to read so I’ll start now
Well done. Welcome to our fellowship. Meetings are more important than steps. Your AA friends are a gift fromm God
First AA meeting January 20 2000 24 years of Sobriety! Thank you AA. Thank you people for putting the Massage out here. Love you ❤
Aa program has saved my life God bless aa program
Hey I think these last 2 videos were incredible. I’ve live by this program for 3+yrs. Keep making great content the community needs more of this.
I've managed to keep the obsession and compulsion at bay for a few years, but my daughter and granddaughter is moving out to their own place this weekend and I'm scared of the loneliness. Loneliness was exactly where my drinking started decades ago. The drinking thoughts have already crept back in.
Thanks for your videos.
Hope you are doing well. Hugs to you.
Get to a 12 steps program. Work the steps. Even if you're just addicted to internet, gambling or whatever. Get help. We'd love to see you with us.
There's online meetings too
Don’t put that out there. This might have been your reservation
@dionel8 I can totally relate, I believe the only reason I haven’t gone back to drinking is because I haven’t been alone in over 35 yrs and now my son is in college and I’ve finally found AA - this has been informative - I want what the program promises - I’m so tired of the obsession - it’s been in the form of food for the past 20 plus years and my health has suffered because of it. I truly believe that God (as I understand Him) put me in AA to prevent a relapse - if I take it seriously, and I’m working ok - I hope to have what the Big Book promises - what everyone boasts about - true sanity!! I’m only 45 days in so far, how are you doing? I see this was about a year ago - would love to hear from you - would you check in?
Amazing video, thank you so much! 5 days sober! Starting to feel my soul again
Literally was left in tears. Thank you for this video.
Thanks for sharing this. Congratulations on getting this far and on choosing to be vulnerable enough to share your experience. You are definitely helping us experience the power within and finally get our awakening so please keep sharing.
Thank you! AA works it really does. ❤️
Ego is the problem, same for all spiritual teachings. The 12 steps deflate the ego as much as the effort out into them. All steps build humility, the greatest tool against the ego. Step 2, also says, we are not the power greater than anything. The ego loves to think it is the power, the nature of the ego is survival, therefore it’s selfish, self centred in its core, is where all fear arises hence, it is the core problem.
When the spiritual malady is overcome we straighten out physically & mentally. Ego isn't an exclusive problem for Alcoholics. Everyone has an ego.
Lack of power, that was our dilemma.
@@chrish7969 yes of course, but for addicts, they are completely unaware of the ego.
@@chrish7969 yes, so it is worded that way for the egotistical to begin to open the door and let in the light. All power is God, or the field, or consciousness or Love and light. All faiths say the same thing once we see through the dogmatic rules of early people’s egos. The ego wants to claim that power, hangs onto the illusion of separation. God is everything or it is nothing, we are in God, God is in us. Such as proven in the double split experiment. A soul is a piece of Source. All is God
This was really really helpful!! I really enjoyed this and it really explains the steps in a different way kind of, than how my sponsor showed me. And I like it!! Why on earth does this only have 86 views??? Oh my goodness!!! This needs to be shown to every newcomer who walks into a hall!!! Like orientation at a new place of work.
Thank you for taking the time and explaining these steps the way you did. I will be saving this video to help aid in taking these steps. May you continue to help others just like you have me tonight. God Bless you sir.
I loved the Chris R. speaking in the first video, AND the inference, that the power we WERE lacking is found within. Nicely done.
Most powerful thing I've ever heard. Im being to understand now. Thank you. From the bottom of my ❤️
Joining "A" Home Group helped me immensely. So grateful for my being brought into all three Legacies from the get go... 01/03/91 and remaining active in all three which I will never outgrow... Nice, well done presentation... TY 💖
I can confirm that this program works for those that want it.
I am still an atheist, now happy with life and feel so free.
I am now in my 18th year of sobriety.
What is your higher power if you are still an atheist?
Not asking sarcastically or assuming I know. Genuinely curious.
@@RaymondRAYCE The entire universe
Yeah … so God. You atheists are hilarious
@@ashpeers4500 If you're "into" pantheism, sure!
I would love to have you as a speaker at my homegroup. Thanks for your videos i needed this right now.
Hi I'm Paul and I'm an alcoholic I believe I still have the spiritual maladie even though I've been sober 5 and a years because I never worked the twelve steps properly even though I went through them with a sponsor that has been sober for 35 years. It's not his fault it's mine I never was completely honest with him or made amendments properly or truly believe in a higher power , I'm glad I watched these videos it's helped me see where I'm going wrong , now I have to put a few things right and work on my own ego 👍 .
Hi Paul, I don't want to steer you wrong because it sounds like you've had some wonderful insights. I'm just concerned that AA can encourage us to beat ourselves up too much, and that doesn't work, at least not for me. That patronizing and oppression, the interpretation of everything is my fault, I'm innately selfish, and I have to be self deprecating and self depriving I think is something that will make people more prone to distance themselves eventually and probably relapse, because it's using the 12 step principles, such as taking responsibility, aggressively and spinning them into shame. Shame is deadly and keeps us from real progress and change. And a lot of our symptoms or I suppose "character defects" can be things we were taught or responses to trauma. Therefore, this perspective that we are selfish at the core is not true for many of us, and it's a harmful, downgrading, and oppressive message for our souls. There might be really narcissistic, manipulative people and people who committed crimes and severe abuse against others who might be a better fit for that intense and aggressive approach, but not all of us.
@@noellegrace_Purrriah I've a feeling your right, I do tend to be far to hash on myself which in turn leaves me down and depressed , I know that I stopped drinking because I joined AA but I'm not sure what I'm getting from it now , I'm finding it is making me more self conscious and that's not good for me. I dont need to remind myself that drink fucks me up every time but the danger for me is when I'm not good with my mental health I feel like fucking my self up and I don't care about anything or anybody and I don't truly know how I've got through things when I've been like that I suppose it just passes some how but at the time it feels like it's never ending when I'm not like that I'm a good family man a pretty good husband and father and have a good sense of humour but that all goes when the head goes , I think that's when I need AA but I'm not sure anymore.
Paul, I'm Roland I'm an alcoholic. Keep coming back. It works if you work it.
Thanks for sharing this with the world!
52 1/2 years sober. Love to listine to all that think they are better than other. When Clarence Snyder took me through the steps and taught me to apply the 12 steps, the 12 traditions and the 12 concepts
Love this content.. so needing on social media ♥️♥️♥️ praise God for your talent
Ive had many spiritual awakenings last year i sat the worst hell ever i didn't give up i made it multiple yrs in recovery only by working hard on myself and keeping myself positive and working on things more better
Great video. I love the editing and sound. Plus, your narration is excellent.
you are helping me today. thank you
Love this video, thanks for making it, really inspiring ❤
I have 34 years of sobriety. Best years of my life..my family have benefitted and they are not members ..I don’t have a higher power or get on my knees nor do gratitude lists I have a home group and never miss it if possible..I love the AA way of life due to,its lack of dogma ..it was inclusive of all since its inception years ago. Ask for help and you will find it..I did 30 years service in the local prison and most members were atheist….great people.
Thank you for making this video
I'm now working on step 7
How are you working on step 7😂😂😂😂
None of your business?
Well done on this edit, puts a great message across, from a very contented "customer" of aa 😊
Health Realization worked best for me but each to one's own.
Individually Chosen Recovery is a predictor of effectiveness. AA will likely work for those who feel it addresses their concerns. It can also harm and often kills people in practice because of it's singular belief that Empowerment is only found in Abstinence. For many reasons, it is important to understand Internal pain points to Intervene effectively. Health Realization, Empowerment based methods and a knowledge of our own experience of Trauma is Essential to Any effective Recovery. Video looks great. I caution all of us to find what speaks to us and works for us without the double whammy/threat of 'sinning' or 'failing' as the only alternative to salvation. Especially if that is being reinforced by people still sick and suffering from underlying neglected trauma and expressing it in a different way post-abstinence/'salvation'
@@lauriesmith8631 ive been around recovery, writing essays, etc for like 15 years, and somehow i have never seen it as simply put as that.
not only is it "most any program can work", it is, "the most effective program is the one YOU CHOOSE". i mean, i guess its like the saying "the best program is the one you do", but still there is a lot buried in the idea that the most efficacious program for each individual is the one that they choose. so few people are offered a choice, but when you have a choice of several paths, of COURSE a person is going to choose the one that best aligns with their morals or whatever. but like... fuck, leave it up to 12 steps to create a dumb situation where morals have to be considered at all
@@lauriesmith8631 I don't understand why you are linking Alcoholism to Trauma. If traumatic experiences caused alcoholism there would be alcoholics everywhere and that's not the case. Only Alcoholics have the illness of alcoholism and in most cases they have it prior to drinking irrespective of their upbringing.
@@steve002025 do you Specialize in Trauma? I do. I also Specialize in Effective approaches for its resulting MH and SUD diagnosis. For 20 years. Ive also seen the far reaching and Generational outcomes of equating behaviors to moral failings and resulting criminalization of such. AA is an effecrive method...for a few. It is not and was never meant to be the only one. Even Bill W would have admitted that. Yet we rely on mandating this in the court systems, illegal loophole. Why might we do that? 🤔🤯🤦 Healing happens in many ways...but a Substance never caused as much damage as humans full of their own outwardly expressed Fears.
The point should not be to lose the desire. The desire to drink is a SURVIVAL drive for pleasure. The force of life. The point should be to recognize the desire as separate from yourself. Because it is. And realizing that will truly set you free.
Love you guys ❤
Can anyone please tell me if it’s truly worth it. I’m alone and cannot go back to the rehab center I was forced into. It was just like prison all over again.
There are other ways, and you can do it on your own, contrary to cultural beliefs. Look into Rational Recovery/AVRT and Jack Trimpey. It can assist you in saving your own life. Best of luck to you.
Thank you kindly brother 🙏
You're very welcome.
Love aa program it works I'm 💯 percent drug free and alcohol free
BTW, big fan. I like your work. Excellent production and well stated. Congratulations.
BUT (there's always a but with assholes like me) @ 8:10 You say "Step 10 is a maintenance step." That is another one of those meeting slogans that not only is NOT in the book, it directly contradicts what the book says. "This thought brings us to Step Ten, which suggests we continue to take personal inventory and continue to set right any new mistakes as we go along. We vigorously commenced this way of living as we cleaned up the past. We have entered the world of the Spirit. Our next function is to grow in understanding and effectiveness."
Clearly step 10 is a "GROWTH" step. "Our next" (after step 9) "function is to GROW in understanding and effectiveness." The awakenings you experienced in 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 are the foundation upon which this growth occurs. 4) "Continue to watch for selfishness, dishonesty, resentment, and fear." Steps 6 & 7) "When these crop up, we ask God at once to remove them." Step 5} "We discuss them with someone immediately..." Steps 8 & 9) "and make amends quickly if we have harmed anyone." Step 12) "Then we resolutely turn our thoughts to someone we can help."
(page 84 anonpress.org/bb/Page_84.htm )
"God will constantly disclose more to you and to us."
anonpress.org/bb/Page_164.htm
God bless and thanks for you service. (sd: 10-19-1987)
The maintenance allows more to be revealed. You aren’t going to grow if you stop and go back to the way you were living before doing the steps.
Admit your're an alcoholic, turn your will over to God, clean house and help others! 4 steps. That's what I learned. Been sober 21 years. I've watched almost everyone fail who didn't do these 4 important steps. I've sponsored people who could just not understand that the founders got these guys sober with the help of God in 2 weeks!
As you understand him. Can't leave that out.
@@Jguthro The original 4 steps said the word God. A.A members changed it for the BIg Book and added 8 more steps.
@@jbmoney357well the big book first 164 is the program off aa so.....
AA and NA have helped millions of people. Step 1 is important because you cant recover if you dont admit that you have a problem. AA is not a cult demanding your money. AA is a fellowship of people who value sobriety more than addiction. No one will blame or shame you. AA will welcome you
I hope you are well bro I am going to do the 12 steps I am only coming around again from a really bad drunken black out
I agree with you on everything.
I absolutely love this thank you
Thank you for your service. Good message. NY John - a few 24's.
I've seen some people hate on AA on some videos and yet not want comments on there youtube videos and i wonder why?
Still drinking need help again so tired of drinking
one thing in this you kind of have a bit wrong and thats saying that you had to do it " for the rest of your life " well I'll just say in my experience its "one day at a time " thats all we have to worry about. Not "for the rest of our life " for some people you say it that way and they think, fuck that, I cant do that.
Thanks
Bravo. Bravo. Did the work and was not down with the fellowship nor listening to fools.
manne I love this guy!!! tyty
Can you reference the names of all the movies that were in the video? Some look good to watch..
Thank you ❤ ( korean sober)
AA PROGRAM works .it takes work . God is in my life
Love this video
I know this is not typical, but I went to my AA meeting last Wednesday. Then another today, then another tomorrow. Will you sponsor me?
Trust me , you don’t want this guy as your sponsor
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Thanks!
Thank you
Owesome
You do all the steps, you will end back at step 1.
thats the problem when the trasnformation isnt deep enough.
for me its other non religious and diferetn terminologie like "intent momentum" but they say power and maintainance.
for me its if i see the alchool i instantly scream NO in me and it owrk, cause i cannot not lisent the screaming order.
its about how we let ego inner talk decide pathetic faith or we decide to be epci every single second and observe the ego talk conving us .
brain dopamine see beer - convince ego to convince us to buy beer- "ohhh we could just get a sip" - transofrm the dopamine need trough SELF manipulative ego talk.
The real self get the message from the manipulative ego that want dopamine "i have excuse to impose and order, so the true self will accept poison to itself so the ego can be calmer with the phisical mental spiritual addiction-problem, therefore "ohhh we could only drink 1 beer we deserve it" .
there is no we! the true self vs the ego trip manipulation that know us very well. the demons arnt only outside !
I think you end up back at step 10, 11, and 12 ( the maintenance steps). Or you can just keep drinking if you want. It’s really up to you.
Intensive work with others living in steps 10 11 12. Will keep you well. We do recover ❤ we do them first 11 steps to do good 12 step work. That’s not just my experience it’s the facts ❤🙏🏿🧘📕
Hi, I was wondering if you'd be interested giving me some
Advice on making addiction videos. I really like your style and have been trying to figure out how to share my store this way.
How do you make amends with people that won’t talk to you ?
You don't, really. You are only responsible for the honest effort. And you change the behavior that created the need for the amends. They may not be talking to you now. But you never know what the future brings. More shall be revealed. When they are ready, so should you be.
Write a letter. If they chose not too respond it is on them. You can only do your part. Maybe we hurt them so much they decided to move on and can't forgive, or it will take time. ODAAT ❤🙏
Can’t even share from the big book now
The great obsession of EVERY alcoholic is the desire to drink like the normal drinker
The depressives have taken over the fellowship. (Can’t live without alchohol)
I need help
Thanks AA
Do not allow yourself to either think about or talk about any real or imagined pleasure you once did get from drinking. Look for sober people and you will find them.
its not easy. its Gods love that gets us sober
He is our power in all of lifes roads.
Im going to clean my life up today.
Im going to stop cold turkey
Alot of isolation (i hate people so i will just spend me time in my bed asleep.)
Good luck. Not really recommended, especially if detoxing from alcohol. Medical attention should be sought.
AA 12 steps can work it if you work it
The Big Book calls out God and the creator as the higher power, God as we understand him. The 12 steps are designed to teach us how to die to ourselves and end the self-centeredness we all are born with. The reality is Jesus Christ is that God, we simply need to understand him by reading the scriptures, pray with humility, receive his freely given grace and see him as the creator in Genesis as well as the sin on the cross. The wages of sin is death, and Jesus is the power that resurrects us and cures the disease of alcoholism. Thank you for the well made videos David.
Yes, and the 12 Steps clears the conduit to God. As an alcoholic, I lost contact with God and alcohol took His place. I needed a way to have that relationship with my Savior but didn’t know how to do it. The purpose of the 12 Steps is to put me back in touch with God.
God was there but I was not open to Him. I know several atheists that are now Christians because of AA. But that’s not to say this is a Christian program.
You can call it Christian all you want , this prayer and meditation came from from Hinduism’ the first religion ever.
@@ashpeers4500 Christian prayer is not at all the same as meditation: th-cam.com/video/ieVDl58QQhA/w-d-xo.html
Genius
Why does alcoholics anonymous have 12 steps and 12 traditions?
(Evil angel number 1212? 🤔)
Well bro i am an indian your language is better easy to understand
I have 19 years
Jesus Rocks
The dr and bill dont talk about this Higher power After step 2 they talk about a god as we see god as our higher power 1 2 3 then a god as i see it. This is what makes the 12 steps a miracle its spiritual growth
To my deepest shame and regret I didn’t follow up the program, still a user, and I pray to God that he may forgive me
He will always forgive you! Today starts a new day for a new life
I am glad you are not praising Bill Wilson for he never achieved sobriety. He messed around with lsd and other mind altering drugs the remainder of his life and only experiencing abstinence from alcohol.
He really became a quack of sorts.
However I am grateful to God for using Wilson
Yeah, they're now finding hallucinogens are beneficial in recovery. The only requirement for membership in AA is a desire to stop drinking. You must of forgot about that!
using wolf of wallstreet clips is insane to me for this video, as those clips used the characters were heavily abusing substances. Most of the movie was about their level of substance abuse.
I don't recommend this video.
Right off the bat..."It took fearless courage".
This makes no sense.
If fear is not a factor, if fear is not present then courage isn't required. Courage is always in the presence of fear.
This is one of the worst descriptions of the 12 steps I've found on youtube.
Talk about self-centered...he doesn't describe the 12 steps as written in the Big Book or 12 & 12, but rather his own self-centered perspective.
He goes on and on about himself.
He doesn't even talk about his sponsor who helped him.
He doesn't even state what each step is.
Do some inventory on me and this video my guy
Your last video was 6mths ago . Did you relapse?
I did not. Doing better than ever. Just took a nice to break to focus on other things. I'll be uploading a few more videos this fall.
Step 1
Once take my seat......expect what?
I would love to debate the subject with you on ZOOM/ TH-cam podcasts.
I would love to see this as well Monica but I bet they don't have the balls to do it.
What would you debate? Whether his guidance on the 12 steps is in agreement with yours?
The great Debating Society! You're a Pickle , You're a Pickle.
What do you want to debate. AA works for alcoholics this is fact. AA is an evidence based program shared from people with lived experience. There would be no debate because AA doesn't need to prove anything to anyone.
Not sure what the debate would be. He kind of tip toeing around the word God and maybe used the ‘Power inside of you’ instead. He explained it pretty good for people who don’t know what the Steps are about.
what's with the music and the movie footage? really annoying tbh
It's for dramatic effect of course.
It’s funny even after this video - people still think the meetings and the steps are the same thing 🤦♂️. The meetings = the fellowship. The steps = the program. The steps will give you permanent sobriety so long as you continue to work them. The meetings without the steps are like sands through an hourglass until your next drink. Step 12 - having had a spiritual awakening as the result of “these steps”… notice it doesn’t say meetings? Meetings are good - but they do not and never have and were never designed to produce the vital spiritual experience needed to overcome this disease. spiritual experience as defined in the back of the book: personality change sufficient to overcome alcoholism. The change happens through the steps - and only through the steps. Without taking inventory and making amends your conscience is dirty and your spirit is at dis-ease and without the thorough housecleaning provided in steps 4+5 and 8+9 you will remain too restless irritable and discontent to not drink. If you are alcoholic and avoid the steps long enough, you will either drink, find another substance to “take the edge off”, work the 12 steps, or blow your brains out. Sounds harsh, but I can’t think of any alternatives, if you’re alcoholic. If you aren’t, it doesn’t matter.
You lost me between your first video and this second one. You said the original 100 got sober without a big fellowship. They also only originally had 6 steps. So I guess what I’m trying to say-is in the first video you tell how AA changed, and their statistics of keeping people clean are dropping lower and lower- and what changed. Yet, the steps themselves have even changed. Which in this video - you make no mention of. So is AA better or worse now for it?
Hi Nancy, I didn’t see the first video but it sounds like he was talking about the early days. That was a growing period. By the time the Big Book was published, the 6 steps from the Oxford Group expanded to the 12 Steps. The Oxford Group was a religious group, they had the blue print for what became the AA program.
The statics of people getting sober were and I believe still accurate. They are watered down today because of courts sending people to AA that don’t want to get sober and others that don’t “really try”. See the Forward to the Second Edition of the Big Book.
The program is the same and it still works. Do the steps with a good sponsor and do them from the Big Book.
If bill w got sober we all can get sober
I feel bad for watching this while drinking
You're watching it while drinking because you more than likely have an alcohol problem.
How did I not know the 12 steps program was religious for so long?
Ummm, be cause it isn’t?
...religious?....Spiritual yes!
AA is a sham now
Since the drug addicts took over...
where is your aa, what city?@@jbmoney357
Which City/country are you in?@@jbmoney357
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what city/country are you from?@@jbmoney357
You broke Tradition 11. Your still being selfish and self centered; the traditions are there for a reason. Great illustration of your journey. But you have to remember it’s your journey and although your journey has been awakened other people’s journey will be different and may be offensive to some watching this video.
Being “offended” is not a legitimate argument. When you think about it, ANY new idea, or insight that differs from our own perspective has the propensity to offend. It is by opening our mind to new ideas that we grow as human beings.
@@marklandis5794 Tradition 11 is for a reason, whether you break it or not it doesn’t negate the Tradition.
I dont understand why AMERICANS not realise YOU COME TO BELIEVE A POWER GREATER than yourself its not INSTANTLY..
James Hetfield 🤘
My local AA doesn't approve me for being atheist, they bash me for it
I recommend you read chapter to the agnostics, all AA asks is you have a willingness to believe in. Power greater then yourself, why not make it gravity ? You can't see, smell, taste, touch, or hear gravity! But we all have 100% faith in a force we only experience
@@alexanderkirk3126people don't have "faith" in gravity.
@shojaejlali1290 you can't see taste touch smell or hear gravity, therefore we have absolute faith in an invisible force we only experience
Will smith…Aaragorn…
Why...my god, why would you overload something, that is so profound and important with such cheesy imagery and narative? Are you trying to divert people from this method? The steps are no game. They are not a steping stone for you to get youtube revenue. Show some respect.
Do some inventory on me and this video my guy
Give up. Clean up. Make up . Grow up .
Sorry, but your explanations are way off, because your corner stone is not set in place. Tom.
How do you know what my cornerstone is or isn't?
Its a cult...beware!!
Came here to say this
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