You sir, sound Australian, British and Southern American all at once. Great class by the way and I am very much inclined towards photographing smaller subjects. The concept of bellows as opposed to a regular macro lens was unknown to me. Thank you for a clear and concise explanation.
Allan, Even after 50 years of active photography, I have just learned a bunch of stuff on using a bellows and a better understanding of effective aperture and diffraction, just by listening to you for a half an hour. Thank you.
Allan, this is one of the clearest, most complete explanations I can recall ever having watched (regardless of photographic topic). You have a gift for making complex subjects understandable. Congratulations on your work and above all, thanks !
I spent two fruitless hours last night trying to get focus with my bellows. I tried 90mm Flat Field, 100mm, and 35mm lenses, all to no avail. In my 16 year absence from Macro photography I forgot to account for the extension of the bellows and the closeness of the subject distance. I just kept moving the wrong thing! Once I almost achieved focus by moving the tripod. Eventually I gave up and went to Our Friend Google. Alan Walls to the rescue! Easy-peasy explanations in Alan's video, and my brain clicked. The calculator link was a big help, too. Thank you for reviving my long-lost education. Tonight when I set up for Macro I have a sure guiding hand at my side.
As you noted, stacking seems to very popular these days with extreme macro photography and digital photography. I do have an old book on film photography which features a bellows-originated image of the head of an insect with the typically shallow depth of field. And I actually like the look of it. It is an interesting look with the super shallow depth of field. Just goes to show that there is no right or wrong way with this form of photography. A single image with no stacking can look good in it's own unique way though this may depend on the subject.
I now realize the world of bellows should have been on my "to do list" 50 years ago...thanks to YOU.... Of course, I subscribed and purchased the low brow Nikon F III bellows. Kudos.
Yesterday, had a beetle eating away at a large flower petal (outside, no flash needed); used this same setup with the reverse lense and set the camera's intervalometer to 1 second intervals and slowly rotated the lower dial as the shots were fired; thought this worked good for live subjects. Turned out better than any handheld work.
Thank you Allan. I bought a mint condition PB6 a few months ago. Haven't used it yet and now I am motivated to do so with your clear and concise directions. Look forward to watching all your streams. Thanks again. -Jim
Allan, you have a great gift for explaining things simply and clearly. Thank you for this video - it was immensely helpful and saved several hours of what would have been frustrating trail and error trying to use a bellows for the first time.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Bought a used like new PB-6 several years ago. Reading the manual didn't help much. Your video was an immense help. There are also the aperture levers that need to be addressed. Blessings to you.
14:30 also, the light drops off dramatically because you’re enlarging the image circle and the inverse square law comes into play. That’s why, regardless of aperture used, the picture gets darker and darker as the mag goes up.
Thank you for this great video. My set of Canon FD bellows arrived yesterday. And an M42 set should arrive later today. I tried out a few test shots with the FD bellows and my wife's house plants yesterday afternoon. I eventually, mostly, sorted out focusing through trial and error. I knew to focus by moving the entire rail. But I didn't realize calculators exist for sorting out what the actual working distance is. I also quickly discovered that my cheap but (normally) serviceable tripod isn't up to snuff for this style of macro photography. And while I have cable releases for my film cameras, I don't have a remote shutter release for my digital yet. But at least I can understand the problems my first attempt surfaced. I'll be checking your other videos for any details on your setup shown here. You link to a similar lab lift. And those are easy enough to find at affordable prices online now that I know what to call them. But it looks like you've got a tripod head mounted onto a slab of wood or countertop to provide a stable base? That makes sense to me given my experiences with a more standard tripod yesterday. When your depth of field is a couple of millimeters thick you really can't do too much to eliminate camera movement. My wife shoots large format view cameras so I have a vague grasp of bellows extension factor from her. I believe that's the same thing you discuss here when calculating effective aperture? For her purposes it's usually more about sorting out exposure than diffusion. I'm sure the calculator could help me figure out how much bellows she'd need to get 3x magnification with a 14 inch lens on an 8x10 view camera. But I don't want to think about it. You've earned a subscriber. And I'm sure your videos will help me suck less with using my bellows.
Ah, I found The Cage Project on your website. That's exactly the sort of stuff I was looking for. The review of the BenQ desk lamp on your blog is also super helpful.
Thanks for making this video. I knew the basics in theory, but it really helps to have someone walk through it in such a approachable, step-by-step fashion.
I have been using Nikon bellows (PB-4 and PB-6) for many years. Like Lysander Spooner who commented earlier, I am also using my PB-6 with an adapter to attach a Fujifilm X-T3 body. One of my favourite lenses to use in this setup is a scarce (rare?) short mounted Nikkor 105 mm f4 lens. In the good old film days I used these bellows with a Nikon F2 and a reversed mounted 28 mm f2.8 Nikkor to photograph live individual specimens of freshwater plankton swimming in a single drop of water. Electronic flash for lighting.
Hi Allan !! Nice to see you once again, this has been the only video I have seen in which there is a basic and simple explanation of how to use a bellows correctly, I thank you very much for all the time you take to research and prepare your videos because apart from your experience, you research and document yourself very well to make your videos, you are a professional and that is why I value you so much, I belong to two macro photography forums on facebook and every time they ask for advice or how to start macro photography, I recommend that they see your TH-cam channel and subscribe. Take good care of yourself there and I continue to enjoy and learn from your videos !!
I just got my bellows connected to a digital camera, a dream I've been brewing for many years. It's a D5300 and my initial problem is setting the light metering. You have me a crucial clew about working with f5. Thanks for your excellent post. My next challenge is to get more light with a slave flash setup.
Glad I saw this video!! I acquired a mint condition Nikon PB-4 bellows and was very disappointed when I couldn't get my Nikon D810 to mount on it. I was considering selling it when I came across this video and learned the "secret" to mounting a DSLR! Thank you!!!
Wow, what an amazing video! 🌟 This tutorial on operating a bellows in macro photography is absolutely top-notch! 📸 The way you explained the technical aspects of using a bellows was so clear and easy to follow. Your expertise and passion for the subject really shine through, making it a joy to watch. Keep up the fantastic work and thank you for sharing your knowledge with the community. 🙌💯
I must say I came across your Videos quite by accident this morning while researching for Objectives. So glad I did you've managed to make me want to get back into some macro work. Many thanks Allan, excellent work mate.
Thank you Allen so much for sharing your wealth of knowledge on macro photography and providing detailed videos for people, such as myself, who are just getting started at the age of mid-70's. I have a lot of catching up to do and with your guidance I hope to become proficient in due coarse. I am using the OM-1 MkII with 60mm & 90mm macro lenses. In-Camera photo stacking is limited to 15 photos and photo bracketing up to 999 photos. I have found that bracketing is the more favorable method and on your recommendation I have purchased Zerene Stacker for out of camera stacking processing. I am seeking some clarification regarding photo stacking and photo bracketing. Are they essentially the same thing or are there some fundamental difference between the two operations? You referrer many times to large focus stacking stacks in your videos, which raised the question for me. Do you create large stacks manually by selecting a range of different focusing points on the subject you wish to capture? I have also recently purchased the Novoflex BAL-MFT, Godox MF- with12-K2 flash with XPROII Trigger and the NiSi 200s focus rail, which were all influenced by your product reviews. So once again Allen, thanks for all the invaluable information you provide.
An informative post and a cracking shot of an eye at the beginning. PB6 with copier attachment PS6 and cable currently at £175.00. To replace my PB4 today with its PS4 £199-£350. I think I paid over £100 in 1976 My main interest is micro photography on things I can't study with my eyes like Occulli, insects tongues and their sex organs. I've attached mine to some CNC rail and a stepper motor, but I've since altered it and now use a hand crank. I've geared it so every click is a fraction of a millimeter. I use an engineer's ruler to see how much depth of field I have with whatever lens I'm using. It took 111 shots the last time I did a small flies eye, My 10x Microscope lens needs 210mm of extension and luckily it has a 17mm working distance. I keep my bellows closed and use tubes for most of the extension as a lot of my use is outdoors and I don't like too much sun on the bellows. One thing I don't have is a adjustable deck and at high magnification the best position of the model is quite difficult to achieve. Adjustable lights are usefull, Jansjö lights from Ikea are cheap led ones and will run off Usb power packs and the mains.
Optics made for the large format cameras ( 4 x 5 >> 8 x 10 ) often can be stopped down to f/64 or f/90. Well known brands are Nikon. Fuji, Zeiss, Rodenstock , Scheider, Meyer, Voigtländer etc. Before WW II the photogroup F/64 was famous in the U.S.A.
Very nice. Beautifully put. While discussing about effective aperture, its actually the the intensity of light reaching the focus plane . As the distance between the optical center of the lens and focus plane increases the light reaching the film/sensor proportionately decreases. As the magnification increases, the depth of field decreases. In cameras like Mariya RB/RZ 67, we find scale in the sides to compensate for the same. That was needed as the cameras had no built-in meter.(barring one waist level finder?). With TTL metering in place in most cameras now, the manual competition is very helpful in most cases. The effective aperture here is only the light gathered at the film plane. By the way, Nikon made some beautiful, tiny lenses for their bellows, both short focal length and medium focal length. One of the tiny lens offers upto 27x or so on the bellows. No word of those lenses made specifically for use on these bellows, nowadays. Any idea, any one?? Really interested. Thanks.
Thank you for this interesting and helpful comment! The importance of the effective aperture is more than just the decreased light intensity, though that is an important consideration. As the physical aperture is moved further away from the sensor, it becomes smaller from the perspective of the sensor. The added distance between sensor and aperture allow more interference from the divergent rays and a subsequent loss of resolution. So the effective aperture is important to consider whenever the image distance is increased as it determines the limit of physical aperture size before diffraction softening become unacceptable.
@@AllanWallsPhotography .... Thank you for the response. From a light source, the luminosity decrease or increases by 1/2 per metre. In lenses where the whole group of lens elements move together while focusing, depending on the placement of aperture, diffraction is controlled relatively well. Lenses with internal focusing suffer a little more. In my opinion, diffraction is not necessarily because of size aperture alone but also because of its placement within the lens groups. The group of lens elements before the diaphragm and the convergence there at play a part. Thank you so much. That was indeed a good video...
Thank you! I happen to have this PB, I think bought it somewhere in the ‘80s. It’s very sturdy. The only think I miss is the rotation control you had with the PB4 bellows. If you rotate the lens slightly, the focal plane will also rotate, which can be very powerful. I do have a question: the 55/2.8 micro nikkor has floating elements, that change the optical charateristics slightly when focusing. Would it be better to set it to the minimal focusing distance when used on the bellows (that is: maximum use of the floating elements feature)?
Hi, Thanks for the great video. Just bought some bellows the other day. Thanks for the magnification link. Though I was wondering where you got that raise platform that you have the bottle on? Regards
Thank you so much for this wonderful informative video. I have read several books on macro photography and none of them covered Effective Aperture. This was critical information since I'm just getting involved in extreme macro photography. Please keep up the great work.
Thanks very much Allan, it was a great tutorial, I learn a lot, now I have to buy a Bellows. I ask my wife if she wants a 12' insect mural and the answer was: NO.
Thank you !! I am very happy to be attending this class with a master of photography, we know that our eternity is teaching knowledge and this will make a difference in my professional life. Thank you very much ...
I wonder if there's anything on TH-cam about things to do with my bellows once I have finished digitising my slides? Yup - and very clearly explained too. I think you've saved me quite a bit of head scratching! Subscribed.
It is mounted on one of these things... amzn.to/34TkwOb buttony for this demonstration. I actually use it mounted directly to my Stackshot automated rail. You could use it with the Z-lifter, but I would be concerned about sagging if I had a heavy camera or lens.
Great video . One suggestion - it may help others . If you use high magnification and you have issues with shallow DOF I use macro rail to move forward ( or backwards) instead bellows . It’s more precise especially if you have scale build in .
Allan, Thank you for your very informative and thought-provoking video! I think you've allowed me to take my bellows game (which i dusted-off and used for the first time in about 10 years because of your video) from a "C-" to a solid "B+"! Until now, I never fully understood the relationship and ultimate purpose of the three "knobs" on the bellows - adjusting focus vs. adjusting the reproduction ratio (aka "magnification"). Also, until your video, I'd never put two-and-two-together regarding how we're magnifying both the aperature and the glass diffraction effects: the proverbial circles-of-confusion at higher f-numbers; and, chromatic aberrations (colour fringing) at lower f-numbers. Once you explained the image "cone", things made so much more sense! Sometimes, it's the simplest thing that serves as the lynch-pin to our understanding! With macro photography, we're effectively "pixel-peeping" before the image becomes pixels! In my experience, using my lenses at their sharpest (sweet-spot) aperture when mounted "normally" on my PB-6 bellows works the best for achieving clear images regardless of the level of magnification. Meaning: my 50mm lenses seem to be sharpest at f/8 and f/11; in most cases f/16 and f/5.6 are "acceptable"; whereas, due to the aforementioned diffraction effects, f/4 and below and f/22 are unusable on my D850 for anything beyond a 1:1 reproduction ratio. Even regular photos (no bellows) taken with my old 50mm lenses on my D850 are noticeably soft at f-numbers below f/5.6 and above f/16. Maybe I missed it, but, I think you forgot to mention how to actually engage and lock the selected aperture using the levers on the sides of the front bellows element or using a mechanical remote shutter release. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge! Cheers, Scott. instagram.com/wsh.photos
Thank you Allan. Very well explained. I have never used a bellows rig, but it was easy to understand, because much of what you explained, I have done, with reversed lenses, and extension tubes.
Great video, thank you so much. In your experience, is using a bellows the preferred way for taking professional, extreme magnification macro images? Or do most people use stacked extension tubes, both with focus stacking?
Hi Allan thank you very much for this video. The way you put things makes it so much easier to understand. It would be nice, as a suggestion to make a video about the use of flash with macro photography. Particularly the use of a shutter release cable with two ends. Keep bringing this videos as they are magnificently useful.
Hi Alexandre, your timing is perfect. I am currently finishing up two videos that directly address the use of flash I'm macro photography. Should be out soon. Thanks!
Hi Allan, I have the Nikon 10x and have been using it with a 70-200 lens but was wondering if I could attach it to my Nikon PB 6 bellows and not use the 70-200 lens? If I could attach it what would I need for that connection? The plan is connected to a 52-30 and 77-52 step down ring. Love the channel. Thanks, Dave
Very informative. Would 3:1 magnification be about right if I wanted to fill the frame with the head of a fly? That's what I want to photograph specifically with a bellows with good detail in the eyes. So I guess I would shoot at around f5.6 in that case. Additionally, there are some very simple bellows units available that just have a knob to move the lens forward and back (just that one movement.) So I assume that movement would be dual purpose - to alter the magnification and to focus.
Excellent info, Allan. I managed to find a PB-4 bellows, near mint condition, at a good price on eBay a while back. Decided to go for that even though cost more than the PB-6 so I can have the tilt/shift feature. I have to admit to being bit of a T/S junky as use a 24mm and 85mm in other areas of work. Such versatile and exciting lenses to use! Because fitting the camera to the bellows as you demonstrate is a little fiddly, I keep an old but robust 12mm extension tube on the back of the bellows, gives that little but of extra space. Don't use cheap plastic tubes for this though. You will probably cover this when you discuss reversed lenses, but I always felt a bit ansty abut the exposed rear element of the lens when reversing it. I solved this by attaching a Nikon BR-6 adaptor to the lens mount, then putting a 52mm filter onto the adaptor. The lens is protected, and you can pop a lens cap onto the filter when work is finished. The BR-6 also has the facility to stop the lens down and locking the aperture after focusing.
Hi Mike, the PB-4 bellows are (and have been) on my wish list. I would love to be able to use the tilt/shift functionality. The PB-4 with that 24mm - reversed - would be fun to play with!
Hi Alan, thanks for your video on the use of the bellows. During the video you mentioned "do'nt mind the focus ring on the lens used, focussing is done by the focussing ring. I have a question though: Like with the aperture setting, every lens also has a "sweet spot" for sharpness at the focussing of the lens (mostly around 2-3 meters). Do you use this or do you always put the lens focusring at infinety?
The most famous bellows brand in the world is Novoflex; the company cconstructs the bellows for Hasselbladand Rollei. Plus the universal models with auto aperture with every camery body mount. Plus reflexmirror box for Leica M cameras.
Just what I needed! Bought a bellows year’s ago and boxed it up because I didn’t know how to use it properly. Your video explained the process and expectations superbly. It worked right out of (the old) box! Thank you. The bad news is I hate bugs and macro photography has its obsession with those critters. The less bugs the better, I say. I noticed you worked one in at the very end. Flowers and pollen are boring. Have you ever photographed a spark? 20 amps on 220 V? Just wondering. I have been told I can be difficult. But I sure enjoy your art of structure and process.
Hi Allan. Your explanations possess wondrous clarity. I don't see my question in the comments so I'll ask it. Is it possible to use the PB-6 with a Stackshot? Thanks. Owen
I can't thank you enough for help. My eye sight isn't what it use to be. Have you used a tether cable for focusing on a large computer screen? Thanks again you are an inspiration.
Jim Egerton Just noticed your question Jim. I don’t know if Alan does but I certainly do tether. It’s not easy to use the camera LCD to establish focus, especially on minute parts of insects. I useHelicon Remote tethered to my camera which also has focus peaking. That helps me compose and focus with more ease.
Hi Satheesh, and thanks for the kind words! The stand is a simple and inexpensive "lab lifter". I have added a link in the notes above. If you follow that you find a selection of options in different price ranges. Mine is 4" by 4".
@@AllanWallsPhotography Thanks Allan. I forgot to mention one thing in my comment. The way you explain about Bellows has the quality of a great teacher. Thanks again for the great video. Satheesh.
Very helpful video - but I have a few questions (for Allan or anyone else who knows): 1) You say not to touch the focus ring on the lens. What is the reason for this? I understand that the ability to focus would be limited, but can’t it be used for fine focus? Also - where do you set it, or does it matter? Do you set it to the closest focus? 2) When doing focus stacking, if you move the whole camera/lens combo forwards and backwards, won’t that change the size of the image, making the photos too different to combine? Or does the software scale the photos and manage this? 3) What is the problem with using longer shutter speeds to close down the aperture more? I know if you go too far you get diffraction, but it seems like you could at least use native ISO and choose the optimum aperture. Wouldn’t a longer shutter speed, for a camera fixed on bellows like that, actually reduce blur? Or is it just that the magnification is so extreme that even a tiny bit of movement becomes a big issue? Is there a rule of thumb for required shutter speed (like the normal 1/shutter speed for handholding, etc.)? thanks!
I haven't used a bellows as yet but I have used a macro lens in combination with an extension tube so I might be able to offer a little bit of insight with your first question. You can't really use the focusing ring on the lens for fine focus and it's not really useful for general focusing either. You don't have much choice but to move the whole camera and lens together to get proper focus. Though the focus setting on your lens can make a difference (at least with an extension tube setup.) I assume it would be the same for a bellows setup. When I was photographing a small spider recently with an extension tube, setting the focus ring closer to the minimum distance appeared to increase the magnification. And setting it closer to infinity appeared to decrease the magnification.
As beautifully engineered as thePB-6 bellows is, I think the PB-4 is even better! It has a shifting and/or swinging front lens mount. This enables the ability to shift/adjust the focal plane of the subject to achieve even more perspective and depth of field. Please comment on this???
Hi Christopher - I must say I miss the perspective control of the PB-4, but given the higher magnifications that I am most often working with, there really is no practical benefit from the PC mechanism. My depth of field is still going to be 7um, regardless of the plane it falls on. For single shot work, of course, it is invaluable. I seldom need a single frame, but one exception is my work with semiconductor circuits. That is when I would really like to be free to adjust the focal plane. I destroyed one PB-6 by modifying the front upright to turn by 30 degrees each way. I won't try that again. I still keep my eye out for a mint PB-4!
@@AllanWallsPhotography Thank you for the promptness of your response. I've found PB-4s on E-bay from time to time. That's how I got the one I have now. I did have to replace the accordian bellows as it had started to dry out and was full of pinholes! I did some research online and found a bellows maker that was able to send me a replacement which I contact cemented in place of the original. Works great and the bellows is like new.
Nice explanation. I would like to flip lens and check if diffraction reduces at the subject of focus. The image might still be softer but wondering if the diffraction problems are towards the perphery like vignetting or so. Just thoughts, need to confirm.
Dear Allan, I'd love to be able to hook up my Mamiya RZ67 lenses to my Nikon D610. You showed several times clever adapters. Any suggestions? (besides the fotodiox which is not available at the time). Thanks & greatings from Holland, Tom
Hi Tom and sorry for the late response - I don't know of any other than the trusty Fotodiox, which is out of stock over here. Your best bet would be to contact RAF Camera - they have a spectacular selection of unusual adapters. The problem is they are in Eastern Europe and may even be a Ukrainian company. The website is functional. I would give them a try and I will check with some of my contacts over here.
@@AllanWallsPhotography Well, being a bit impatient I dicided to build an adapter myself. Some pvc rain pipe sizes fit nicely even a smooth sliding part. It works good enough to check the sharpness and cropfactor of the Mamiya 50 and 110mm in comparisson to my Nikon 50mm and Sigma 105mm; the sharpness in my opinion does not make a lot of difference. anyway it was a nice experience.
Thank You for the knowledge you share! What is your opinion about bag bellows? I am the type seeking technical challenges and want to make the bellows myself.
The method of extension you use should make no difference as long as it does not leak light. I have used the paper tube inside a roll of kitchen paper, with excellent results!
Sometimes the macro bellows is the lthick/long i when it is all turned together. Then a extension tube is needed. Extension tubes are sold in a set of three or four. In 10 mm, 20mm , 30 mm length.
Nostalgy. I begin this since lot of years with Canon FD bellows and I have ask the question why do canon do not replace his bellows at the beginning of EF adventure? And the answer have come, The MPE-65 mm. I have hesitate to use my bellows on the field, but with the MPE I use almost always in the field. It is so versatile and easy (compare to other ultra magnification systems). We can consider today bellows as completely out of date for field work. (for studio it is different). I knows that the PB-6 is a very good bellows but I prefer the PB-4 what have tilt and shift option (The Canon FD was as the PB-6 without tilt and shift option). Indeed today if you look for bellows the best are Novoflex with electronic contacts and tilt and shift possibility. Perfect communication between the camera and the lens (especially for aperture settings and TTL). Construct like tank. A little expensive. For lesser specialised people today there are more versatile solutions like the Laowa lenses what allows true 2:1 (3,6 with APS-C) magnification without accessoires if you want higher magnification the Laowa 25 mm 2,5X to 5. It is so good priced when you compare to our lenses during the eighties (I remember an Olympus macro lens at 2500 euros)! The quality is incredible. Indeed I continue to love the aesthetic of bellows but definitely not for the field. All the best.
Hello Allan, I hope you are still answering on the PB-6. While researching the item I found there were problems attaching modern digital Nikons, but adding a tube was advised. So I bought a PB-6 on e-bay described as unused !! £130.00 and it certainly looks it. I then saw your TH-cam including turning the camera mount 90 degs. trouble is my camera mount does turn as yours when depressing black button, the quality is so good I’m sure it’s genuine, so I was wondering if there are two versions or the very small two screws set diagonally at the camera mount end need adjusting? Not something I would rush into without asking. I do have a PK-13 on order anyway if my mount will not turn. I am also awaiting a EL-Nikkor 50mm f/2.8 N as you recommend in another Y/Tube. Many thanks Allan, your talks are always very informative. Regards Pete.
Hi Pete, you are going to love using these awesome bellows - so well made. It is a little fiddly getting late model cameras mounted, but once you a trick or two, you will be set. Bring the rear of the bellows (the camera mount) all the way back to the end of the rail. Depress the black button on the right of the camera mount and rotate the silvered sleeve counter clockwise unit the red indexing mark is at 9 0'clock. Place you camera onto the mount - it will be at a 45 degree angle when the mounting marks are aligned. When it is seated, rotate the camera another 90 degrees counter clockwise - it will straight up and down when it clicks into place. Then depress the black button on the bellows and rotate the camera back into landscape orientation - it will click into place. I shoot with a D850 and have no trouble doing it this way. As for the mount not turning, that is interesting. There is only one version of the bellows, that I know of. The set screw on the silvered part of the mount only functions as a stop for the camera. The two on the black part of the mount fit into the inner channel of the mount itself, to stop it from separating from the main body. I suppose, if one was over tightened, that might be the problem. Giving them a 10 degree turn CCW may do the trick. It shouldn't hurt anything. Are you depressing the black button fully? It doesn't free up the mount until it is all the way in. The mount only rotates 90 degrees - the index mark only goes from 12 to 9 and back again. If you are still having a problem, shoot me an email (contact@allanwallsphotography.com) and we can set up a quick Zoom meeting to figure it out.
You mean the silver thing? It is just a lab lifter (use that keyword) with a 4" x 4" steel anvil on top - this is the anvil... amzn.to/3qWuaGW - I like it because it holds everything still, and this is the lifter...amzn.to/3zIyLAI. good luck!
The Depth of Field problem: Why stay with the 50 mm lens? With a longer lens, the working distance for a given magnification is longer and the depth of field is deeper. Result, single photo rather than stacking. Just before we went digital, I was taking jewelry photos for advertising. I used extension tubes on a 135 mm lens from several feet away from the subject. The whole piece of jewelry was in sharp focus and I could fill the frame with a single ring. Thanks for the refresher course on the bellows.
Hi Francis, thanks for the thought provoking comment! Yes, the working distance is considerably longer and the depth of field is increased. At 125mm of extension you would indeed reach 1:1 magnification. Which would be excellent for shooting a piece of jewelry, but not very helpful for the 1mm subjects that I am shooting. The shorter primes give a great deal more magnification for the same extension. A 28mm prime on the same 125mm extension (at f/5.6) can get me close to 5:1. By the way, I shoot my jewelry photographs with a longer macro lens - same idea!
Bought my PB-6 in the mid-1980’s. It’s still going strong after a lot of usage. That said, it still needs to be handled with reasonable care. I wish they still sold them new. The third party choices are generally too cheap or too expensive. The PB-6 is a great choice for Nikon users.
Hi Bob... I just responded to another comment with exactly the same advice! Some of the bargain brands are really of very poor quality, and the expensive ones make no sense.
They're called laboratory lifting platforms. You can get one on Amazon. I assume the use is to elevate the subject by tiny increments. www.amazon.com/Laboratory-Platform-Stainless-Adjusting-Position/dp/B07VNGJQ68
@@keeskraaijeveld4704 I think it's a block of plastic or something. Most likely to make it a little higher so he can the subject in focus where he wants. Once your camera is on slide rails and your bellows are on, it lifts the camera up fairly high, so you need your subject matter at the height of the lens. It's actually a good idea, I've been putting my subjects on books and adjusting the height with parts of cardboard. I'll probably be ordering one of these for myself.
Hi Kees. I see Charley has already answered the question. It is a camera base that I through on there just to add weight to the platform (for stability). I have since added an XYZ trimming table for more accurate control, so I don't need to use the extra part.
@@AllanWallsPhotography ok, thx. I have the same lab platform, but wanna make it a little bid higher. But it must stay stable. You use a iron block or something?
It is a basic camera stand - I can't remember where I got this one from, it is very old. This is the new and improved model (I have ordered on myself!)... www.amazon.com/Neewer-Upgraded-Release-Camcorders-Aluminium/dp/B07W2W7N5R/ref=asc_df_B07W2W7N5R/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459717376558&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5657997942456643560&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9012939&hvtargid=pla-831916670049&psc=1
Hi Allan. What is that adjustable platform on the table that your bellows is attached to? Also the platform that your subject bottle is stood on? Thank you
You sir, sound Australian, British and Southern American all at once. Great class by the way and I am very much inclined towards photographing smaller subjects. The concept of bellows as opposed to a regular macro lens was unknown to me. Thank you for a clear and concise explanation.
Thank you, kind sir! 20 years in the south of England, followed by 40 years in the deep south - that will do it, every time!
Allan, Even after 50 years of active photography, I have just learned a bunch of stuff on using a bellows and a better understanding of effective aperture and diffraction, just by listening to you for a half an hour. Thank you.
Allan, this is one of the clearest, most complete explanations I can recall ever having watched (regardless of photographic topic). You have a gift for making complex subjects understandable. Congratulations on your work and above all, thanks !
Seriously, now I want bellows. He explained it all so well. I'm hooked.
I spent two fruitless hours last night trying to get focus with my bellows. I tried 90mm Flat Field, 100mm, and 35mm lenses, all to no avail. In my 16 year absence from Macro photography I forgot to account for the extension of the bellows and the closeness of the subject distance. I just kept moving the wrong thing! Once I almost achieved focus by moving the tripod. Eventually I gave up and went to Our Friend Google. Alan Walls to the rescue! Easy-peasy explanations in Alan's video, and my brain clicked. The calculator link was a big help, too. Thank you for reviving my long-lost education. Tonight when I set up for Macro I have a sure guiding hand at my side.
As you noted, stacking seems to very popular these days with extreme macro photography and digital photography. I do have an old book on film photography which features a bellows-originated image of the head of an insect with the typically shallow depth of field. And I actually like the look of it. It is an interesting look with the super shallow depth of field. Just goes to show that there is no right or wrong way with this form of photography. A single image with no stacking can look good in it's own unique way though this may depend on the subject.
I now realize the world of bellows should have been on my "to do list" 50 years ago...thanks to YOU....
Of course, I subscribed and purchased the low brow Nikon F III bellows. Kudos.
Yesterday, had a beetle eating away at a large flower petal (outside, no flash needed); used this same setup with the reverse lense and set the camera's intervalometer to 1 second intervals and slowly rotated the lower dial as the shots were fired; thought this worked good for live subjects. Turned out better than any handheld work.
Thank you. I just bought a used bellows on a whim, and this tutorial was exactly what I need to get me started.
I just bought one on a whim too! I’m waiting for it to arrive. Are you enjoying using it?
Thank you Allan. I bought a mint condition PB6 a few months ago. Haven't used it yet and now I am motivated to do so with your clear and concise directions. Look forward to watching all your streams. Thanks again. -Jim
Allan, you have a great gift for explaining things simply and clearly. Thank you for this video - it was immensely helpful and saved several hours of what would have been frustrating trail and error trying to use a bellows for the first time.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Bought a used like new PB-6 several years ago. Reading the manual didn't help much. Your video was an immense help. There are also the aperture levers that need to be addressed. Blessings to you.
Thanks Ernst! Glad you liked it!
14:30 also, the light drops off dramatically because you’re enlarging the image circle and the inverse square law comes into play. That’s why, regardless of aperture used, the picture gets darker and darker as the mag goes up.
Brilliant macro table set-up!
My bellows just arrived now to watch this another couple of times. Great stuff thanks.
Thank you for this great video. My set of Canon FD bellows arrived yesterday. And an M42 set should arrive later today. I tried out a few test shots with the FD bellows and my wife's house plants yesterday afternoon. I eventually, mostly, sorted out focusing through trial and error. I knew to focus by moving the entire rail. But I didn't realize calculators exist for sorting out what the actual working distance is. I also quickly discovered that my cheap but (normally) serviceable tripod isn't up to snuff for this style of macro photography. And while I have cable releases for my film cameras, I don't have a remote shutter release for my digital yet. But at least I can understand the problems my first attempt surfaced.
I'll be checking your other videos for any details on your setup shown here. You link to a similar lab lift. And those are easy enough to find at affordable prices online now that I know what to call them. But it looks like you've got a tripod head mounted onto a slab of wood or countertop to provide a stable base? That makes sense to me given my experiences with a more standard tripod yesterday. When your depth of field is a couple of millimeters thick you really can't do too much to eliminate camera movement.
My wife shoots large format view cameras so I have a vague grasp of bellows extension factor from her. I believe that's the same thing you discuss here when calculating effective aperture? For her purposes it's usually more about sorting out exposure than diffusion. I'm sure the calculator could help me figure out how much bellows she'd need to get 3x magnification with a 14 inch lens on an 8x10 view camera. But I don't want to think about it.
You've earned a subscriber. And I'm sure your videos will help me suck less with using my bellows.
Ah, I found The Cage Project on your website. That's exactly the sort of stuff I was looking for. The review of the BenQ desk lamp on your blog is also super helpful.
Thanks for making this video. I knew the basics in theory, but it really helps to have someone walk through it in such a approachable, step-by-step fashion.
I have been using Nikon bellows (PB-4 and PB-6) for many years. Like Lysander Spooner who commented earlier, I am also using my PB-6 with an adapter to attach a Fujifilm X-T3 body. One of my favourite lenses to use in this setup is a scarce (rare?) short mounted Nikkor 105 mm f4 lens. In the good old film days I used these bellows with a Nikon F2 and a reversed mounted 28 mm f2.8 Nikkor to photograph live individual specimens of freshwater plankton swimming in a single drop of water. Electronic flash for lighting.
There were only about 2,500 of this lens made. I also own one.
Hi Allan !! Nice to see you once again, this has been the only video I have seen in which there is a basic and simple explanation of how to use a bellows correctly, I thank you very much for all the time you take to research and prepare your videos because apart from your experience, you research and document yourself very well to make your videos, you are a professional and that is why I value you so much, I belong to two macro photography forums on facebook and every time they ask for advice or how to start macro photography, I recommend that they see your TH-cam channel and subscribe. Take good care of yourself there and I continue to enjoy and learn from your videos !!
Greetings Enrique! I hope you are well. Thank you for the kind words!
I just got my bellows connected to a digital camera, a dream I've been brewing for many years. It's a D5300 and my initial problem is setting the light metering. You have me a crucial clew about working with f5. Thanks for your excellent post. My next challenge is to get more light with a slave flash setup.
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used this nikon PB 6 Bellows for many years for very minute and Accurate closeup photography. I appreciate this video
Glad I saw this video!! I acquired a mint condition Nikon PB-4 bellows and was very disappointed when I couldn't get my Nikon D810 to mount on it. I was considering selling it when I came across this video and learned the "secret" to mounting a DSLR! Thank you!!!
Excellent - thanks! Your bellows has the added advantage of allowing you to manipulate the focal plane - definitely a piece of gear to hang on to!
Really interesting. Thank you for posting. 👏👏👏
I'm going to start calling Allen "Sherlock" - - he solves mysteries!
Wow, what an amazing video! 🌟 This tutorial on operating a bellows in macro photography is absolutely top-notch! 📸 The way you explained the technical aspects of using a bellows was so clear and easy to follow. Your expertise and passion for the subject really shine through, making it a joy to watch. Keep up the fantastic work and thank you for sharing your knowledge with the community. 🙌💯
I must say I came across your Videos quite by accident this morning while researching for Objectives. So glad I did you've managed to make me want to get back into some macro work. Many thanks Allan, excellent work mate.
Excellent! Let me know if I can help!
Thank you Allen so much for sharing your wealth of knowledge on macro photography and providing detailed videos for people, such as myself, who are just getting started at the age of mid-70's. I have a lot of catching up to do and with your guidance I hope to become proficient in due coarse. I am using the OM-1 MkII with 60mm & 90mm macro lenses. In-Camera photo stacking is limited to 15 photos and photo bracketing up to 999 photos. I have found that bracketing is the more favorable method and on your recommendation I have purchased Zerene Stacker for out of camera stacking processing. I am seeking some clarification regarding photo stacking and photo bracketing. Are they essentially the same thing or are there some fundamental difference between the two operations? You referrer many times to large focus stacking stacks in your videos, which raised the question for me. Do you create large stacks manually by selecting a range of different focusing points on the subject you wish to capture? I have also recently purchased the Novoflex BAL-MFT, Godox MF- with12-K2 flash with XPROII Trigger and the NiSi 200s focus rail, which were all influenced by your product reviews. So once again Allen, thanks for all the invaluable information you provide.
Allan, Can you explain how you mounted the bellows unit to the piece of wood please
Excellent video, well explained and easy to understand. The formula for calculating effective aperture is especially good to know, thanks!
Great video...would it be possible to mount a sony a6300 and sony lens to this bellows with adaptors?
An informative post and a cracking shot of an eye at the beginning.
PB6 with copier attachment PS6 and cable currently at £175.00. To replace my PB4 today with its PS4 £199-£350. I think I paid over £100 in 1976
My main interest is micro photography on things I can't study with my eyes like Occulli, insects tongues and their sex organs.
I've attached mine to some CNC rail and a stepper motor, but I've since altered it and now use a hand crank. I've geared it so every click is a fraction of a millimeter. I use an engineer's ruler to see how much depth of field I have with whatever lens I'm using. It took 111 shots the last time I did a small flies eye, My 10x Microscope lens needs 210mm of extension and luckily it has a 17mm working distance. I keep my bellows closed and use tubes for most of the extension as a lot of my use is outdoors and I don't like too much sun on the bellows. One thing I don't have is a adjustable deck and at high magnification the best position of the model is quite difficult to achieve.
Adjustable lights are usefull, Jansjö lights from Ikea are cheap led ones and will run off Usb power packs and the mains.
Optics made for the large format cameras ( 4 x 5 >> 8 x 10 ) often can be
stopped down to f/64 or f/90.
Well known brands are Nikon. Fuji, Zeiss, Rodenstock , Scheider, Meyer,
Voigtländer etc.
Before WW II the photogroup F/64 was famous in the U.S.A.
Great video. I had the PB-6 but gave it up for the PB-4 for the front element shift and tilt functions. Both good though.
Very nice. Beautifully put.
While discussing about effective aperture, its actually the the intensity of light reaching the focus plane .
As the distance between the optical center of the lens and focus plane increases the light reaching the film/sensor proportionately decreases.
As the magnification increases, the depth of field decreases.
In cameras like Mariya RB/RZ 67, we find scale in the sides to compensate for the same. That was needed as the cameras had no built-in meter.(barring one waist level finder?).
With TTL metering in place in most cameras now, the manual competition is very helpful in most cases.
The effective aperture here is only the light gathered at the film plane.
By the way, Nikon made some beautiful, tiny lenses for their bellows, both short focal length and medium focal length. One of the tiny lens offers upto 27x or so on the bellows. No word of those lenses made specifically for use on these bellows, nowadays.
Any idea, any one?? Really interested.
Thanks.
Thank you for this interesting and helpful comment! The importance of the effective aperture is more than just the decreased light intensity, though that is an important consideration. As the physical aperture is moved further away from the sensor, it becomes smaller from the perspective of the sensor. The added distance between sensor and aperture allow more interference from the divergent rays and a subsequent loss of resolution. So the effective aperture is important to consider whenever the image distance is increased as it determines the limit of physical aperture size before diffraction softening become unacceptable.
@@AllanWallsPhotography ....
Thank you for the response.
From a light source, the luminosity decrease or increases by 1/2 per metre.
In lenses where the whole group of lens elements move together while focusing, depending on the placement of aperture, diffraction is controlled relatively well. Lenses with internal focusing suffer a little more. In my opinion, diffraction is not necessarily because of size aperture alone but also because of its placement within the lens groups. The group of lens elements before the diaphragm and the convergence there at play a part. Thank you so much.
That was indeed a good video...
Brilliant tutorial. I have learnt so much in this video clip.
Pro Tip: Keep up the great work of art & sience :) Thank you Sir.
Thank you! I happen to have this PB, I think bought it somewhere in the ‘80s. It’s very sturdy. The only think I miss is the rotation control you had with the PB4 bellows. If you rotate the lens slightly, the focal plane will also rotate, which can be very powerful.
I do have a question: the 55/2.8 micro nikkor has floating elements, that change the optical charateristics slightly when focusing. Would it be better to set it to the minimal focusing distance when used on the bellows (that is: maximum use of the floating elements feature)?
Hi, Thanks for the great video. Just bought some bellows the other day. Thanks for the magnification link.
Though I was wondering where you got that raise platform that you have the bottle on? Regards
Thank you so much for this wonderful informative video. I have read several books on macro photography and none of them covered Effective Aperture. This was critical information since I'm just getting involved in extreme macro photography. Please keep up the great work.
Thanks very much Allan, it was a great tutorial, I learn a lot, now I have to buy a Bellows. I ask my wife if she wants a 12' insect mural and the answer was: NO.
Hahaha! You shouldn't have asked! Make it a surprise (or shock may be a better choice of words!)!
Brilliant video glad I found it as I ordered a PB-6 bellows from eBay
Allen where were you 45 years ago. I know home computers were in the infancy stage. But thanks for the heads up and the formula.
Absolute pleasure to learn about bellows
Thank you !! I am very happy to be attending this class with a master of photography, we know that our eternity is teaching knowledge and this will make a difference in my professional life. Thank you very much ...
I wonder if there's anything on TH-cam about things to do with my bellows once I have finished digitising my slides?
Yup - and very clearly explained too. I think you've saved me quite a bit of head scratching! Subscribed.
Very interesting and clear explanation. All makes sense. Will the bellows work with a mirrorless body?
Yes, with the right adapter you can connect all mirrorless cameras. I have a Helicoil adapter for my Fuji X that I connect to an OM auto bellows.
thanks for a really great video. please tell what the bellows is mounted on?
It is mounted on one of these things... amzn.to/34TkwOb buttony for this demonstration. I actually use it mounted directly to my Stackshot automated rail. You could use it with the Z-lifter, but I would be concerned about sagging if I had a heavy camera or lens.
Great video . One suggestion - it may help others . If you use high magnification and you have issues with shallow DOF I use macro rail to move forward ( or backwards) instead bellows . It’s more precise especially if you have scale build in .
Allan,
Thank you for your very informative and thought-provoking video!
I think you've allowed me to take my bellows game (which i dusted-off and used for the first time in about 10 years because of your video) from a "C-" to a solid "B+"!
Until now, I never fully understood the relationship and ultimate purpose of the three "knobs" on the bellows - adjusting focus vs. adjusting the reproduction ratio (aka "magnification").
Also, until your video, I'd never put two-and-two-together regarding how we're magnifying both the aperature and the glass diffraction effects: the proverbial circles-of-confusion at higher f-numbers; and, chromatic aberrations (colour fringing) at lower f-numbers. Once you explained the image "cone", things made so much more sense! Sometimes, it's the simplest thing that serves as the lynch-pin to our understanding! With macro photography, we're effectively "pixel-peeping" before the image becomes pixels!
In my experience, using my lenses at their sharpest (sweet-spot) aperture when mounted "normally" on my PB-6 bellows works the best for achieving clear images regardless of the level of magnification. Meaning: my 50mm lenses seem to be sharpest at f/8 and f/11; in most cases f/16 and f/5.6 are "acceptable"; whereas, due to the aforementioned diffraction effects, f/4 and below and f/22 are unusable on my D850 for anything beyond a 1:1 reproduction ratio. Even regular photos (no bellows) taken with my old 50mm lenses on my D850 are noticeably soft at f-numbers below f/5.6 and above f/16.
Maybe I missed it, but, I think you forgot to mention how to actually engage and lock the selected aperture using the levers on the sides of the front bellows element or using a mechanical remote shutter release.
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge!
Cheers,
Scott.
instagram.com/wsh.photos
This was excellent, Allan! Thank you so much.
Thank you Allan. Very well explained. I have never used a bellows rig, but it was easy to understand, because much of what you explained, I have done, with reversed lenses, and extension tubes.
Great video, thank you so much. In your experience, is using a bellows the preferred way for taking professional, extreme magnification macro images? Or do most people use stacked extension tubes, both with focus stacking?
I've now got a headache... and that's ok. Thanks for your hard work.
Watch at 1.5x, you're welcome.
Hi Allan thank you very much for this video. The way you put things makes it so much easier to understand. It would be nice, as a suggestion to make a video about the use of flash with macro photography. Particularly the use of a shutter release cable with two ends. Keep bringing this videos as they are magnificently useful.
Hi Alexandre, your timing is perfect. I am currently finishing up two videos that directly address the use of flash I'm macro photography. Should be out soon. Thanks!
@@AllanWallsPhotography thank YOU.
Hi Allan, I have the Nikon 10x and have been using it with a 70-200 lens but was wondering if I could attach it to my Nikon PB 6 bellows and not use the 70-200 lens? If I could attach it what would I need for that connection? The plan is connected to a 52-30 and 77-52 step down ring. Love the channel. Thanks, Dave
Very informative. Would 3:1 magnification be about right if I wanted to fill the frame with the head of a fly? That's what I want to photograph specifically with a bellows with good detail in the eyes. So I guess I would shoot at around f5.6 in that case.
Additionally, there are some very simple bellows units available that just have a knob to move the lens forward and back (just that one movement.) So I assume that movement would be dual purpose - to alter the magnification and to focus.
Excellent info, Allan. I managed to find a PB-4 bellows, near mint condition, at a good price on eBay a while back. Decided to go for that even though cost more than the PB-6 so I can have the tilt/shift feature. I have to admit to being bit of a T/S junky as use a 24mm and 85mm in other areas of work. Such versatile and exciting lenses to use!
Because fitting the camera to the bellows as you demonstrate is a little fiddly, I keep an old but robust 12mm extension tube on the back of the bellows, gives that little but of extra space. Don't use cheap plastic tubes for this though.
You will probably cover this when you discuss reversed lenses, but I always felt a bit ansty abut the exposed rear element of the lens when reversing it. I solved this by attaching a Nikon BR-6 adaptor to the lens mount, then putting a 52mm filter onto the adaptor. The lens is protected, and you can pop a lens cap onto the filter when work is finished. The BR-6 also has the facility to stop the lens down and locking the aperture after focusing.
Hi Mike, the PB-4 bellows are (and have been) on my wish list. I would love to be able to use the tilt/shift functionality. The PB-4 with that 24mm - reversed - would be fun to play with!
Hi Alan, thanks for your video on the use of the bellows. During the video you mentioned "do'nt mind the focus ring on the lens used, focussing is done by the focussing ring. I have a question though: Like with the aperture setting, every lens also has a "sweet spot" for sharpness at the focussing of the lens (mostly around 2-3 meters). Do you use this or do you always put the lens focusring at infinety?
What a great little video, thanks. Keep well keep save and be happy.
im going to order these bellows tomorrow i hope they r as good as new, like the seller states 😀😀
Good tutorials for Extreme Macro Photography
The most famous bellows brand in the world is Novoflex;
the company cconstructs the bellows for Hasselbladand Rollei.
Plus the universal models with auto aperture with every camery body mount.
Plus reflexmirror box for Leica M cameras.
Just what I needed! Bought a bellows year’s ago and boxed it up because I didn’t know how to use it properly. Your video explained the process and expectations superbly. It worked right out of (the old) box! Thank you.
The bad news is I hate bugs and macro photography has its obsession with those critters. The less bugs the better, I say. I noticed you worked one in at the very end. Flowers and pollen are boring. Have you ever photographed a spark? 20 amps on 220 V? Just wondering. I have been told I can be difficult.
But I sure enjoy your art of structure and process.
An excellent video on the use of bellows. Thank you!
Just one question. What would you set the lens focus distance to infinity or its closest setting while on the bellows.? Thank you
Thank you so much for this video!
This was so helpful!
Hi Allan, a bellow is something i want to put in my equitementvault for a long time. So nice video again.
Go for it! You'll end up using it a bunch!
Hi Allan. Your explanations possess wondrous clarity. I don't see my question in the comments so I'll ask it. Is it possible to use the PB-6 with a Stackshot? Thanks. Owen
awesome and detailed explanation
I can't thank you enough for help. My eye sight isn't what it use to be. Have you used a tether cable for focusing on a large computer screen? Thanks again you are an inspiration.
Jim Egerton Just noticed your question Jim. I don’t know if Alan does but I certainly do tether. It’s not easy to use the camera LCD to establish focus, especially on minute parts of insects. I useHelicon Remote tethered to my camera which also has focus peaking. That helps me compose and focus with more ease.
Really helpful video, thanks
Very informative. Brilliant.
Thank you very much.
What an amazing video! Highly informative. I am curious to know more about the stand you are using to keep the bottle. It looks great. Thanks,
Hi Satheesh, and thanks for the kind words! The stand is a simple and inexpensive "lab lifter". I have added a link in the notes above. If you follow that you find a selection of options in different price ranges. Mine is 4" by 4".
@@AllanWallsPhotography Thanks Allan. I forgot to mention one thing in my comment. The way you explain about Bellows has the quality of a great teacher. Thanks again for the great video. Satheesh.
Thank you very much this helped me out a lot
Very helpful video - but I have a few questions (for Allan or anyone else who knows):
1) You say not to touch the focus ring on the lens. What is the reason for this? I understand that the ability to focus would be limited, but can’t it be used for fine focus? Also - where do you set it, or does it matter? Do you set it to the closest focus?
2) When doing focus stacking, if you move the whole camera/lens combo forwards and backwards, won’t that change the size of the image, making the photos too different to combine? Or does the software scale the photos and manage this?
3) What is the problem with using longer shutter speeds to close down the aperture more? I know if you go too far you get diffraction, but it seems like you could at least use native ISO and choose the optimum aperture. Wouldn’t a longer shutter speed, for a camera fixed on bellows like that, actually reduce blur? Or is it just that the magnification is so extreme that even a tiny bit of movement becomes a big issue? Is there a rule of thumb for required shutter speed (like the normal 1/shutter speed for handholding, etc.)?
thanks!
I haven't used a bellows as yet but I have used a macro lens in combination with an extension tube so I might be able to offer a little bit of insight with your first question. You can't really use the focusing ring on the lens for fine focus and it's not really useful for general focusing either. You don't have much choice but to move the whole camera and lens together to get proper focus. Though the focus setting on your lens can make a difference (at least with an extension tube setup.) I assume it would be the same for a bellows setup. When I was photographing a small spider recently with an extension tube, setting the focus ring closer to the minimum distance appeared to increase the magnification. And setting it closer to infinity appeared to decrease the magnification.
As beautifully engineered as thePB-6 bellows is, I think the PB-4 is even better! It has a shifting and/or swinging front lens mount. This enables the ability to shift/adjust the focal plane of the subject to achieve even more perspective and depth of field. Please comment on this???
Hi Christopher - I must say I miss the perspective control of the PB-4, but given the higher magnifications that I am most often working with, there really is no practical benefit from the PC mechanism. My depth of field is still going to be 7um, regardless of the plane it falls on. For single shot work, of course, it is invaluable. I seldom need a single frame, but one exception is my work with semiconductor circuits. That is when I would really like to be free to adjust the focal plane. I destroyed one PB-6 by modifying the front upright to turn by 30 degrees each way. I won't try that again. I still keep my eye out for a mint PB-4!
@@AllanWallsPhotography Thank you for the promptness of your response. I've found PB-4s on E-bay from time to time. That's how I got the one I have now. I did have to replace the accordian bellows as it had started to dry out and was full of pinholes! I did some research online and found a bellows maker that was able to send me a replacement which I contact cemented in place of the original. Works great and the bellows is like new.
Nice explanation. I would like to flip lens and check if diffraction reduces at the subject of focus. The image might still be softer but wondering if the diffraction problems are towards the perphery like vignetting or so. Just thoughts, need to confirm.
Brilliant video Allen , as usual.
Dear Allan,
I'd love to be able to hook up my Mamiya RZ67 lenses to my Nikon D610. You showed several times clever adapters. Any suggestions? (besides the fotodiox which is not available at the time).
Thanks & greatings from Holland, Tom
Hi Tom and sorry for the late response - I don't know of any other than the trusty Fotodiox, which is out of stock over here. Your best bet would be to contact RAF Camera - they have a spectacular selection of unusual adapters. The problem is they are in Eastern Europe and may even be a Ukrainian company. The website is functional. I would give them a try and I will check with some of my contacts over here.
@@AllanWallsPhotography Well, being a bit impatient I dicided to build an adapter myself. Some pvc rain pipe sizes fit nicely even a smooth sliding part. It works good enough to check the sharpness and cropfactor of the Mamiya 50 and 110mm in comparisson to my Nikon 50mm and Sigma 105mm; the sharpness in my opinion does not make a lot of difference. anyway it was a nice experience.
Very practical advice, well-delivered.
Thank You for the knowledge you share! What is your opinion about bag bellows? I am the type seeking technical challenges and want to make the bellows myself.
The method of extension you use should make no difference as long as it does not leak light. I have used the paper tube inside a roll of kitchen paper, with excellent results!
Quite clear and precise
Silly, but I had not noticeced that diffraction depends on magnification, even rhough it's perfecly logical. Thank you, Sir!
What's the song at the beggining? Sounds lovely
It is a song titled "Frames" by solo guitarist Headlund - I found it on Epidemic Sound - they have a number of his compositions.
Have you used a C-mount microscope camera with the bellows and an objective? Very interesting!
Nikon PB6, Will the camera end fitting adapter clear the sensors of a modern digital camera? I ask because the design is around 35 years old
It will, but you will need an adapter. The bellows as a male F-mount bayonet. The Z-F mount adapter should work just fine.
Sometimes the macro bellows is the lthick/long i
when it is all turned together.
Then a extension tube is needed.
Extension tubes are sold in a set of three or four.
In 10 mm, 20mm , 30 mm length.
Nostalgy. I begin this since lot of years with Canon FD bellows and I have ask the question why do canon do not replace his bellows at the beginning of EF adventure? And the answer have come, The MPE-65 mm. I have hesitate to use my bellows on the field, but with the MPE I use almost always in the field. It is so versatile and easy (compare to other ultra magnification systems). We can consider today bellows as completely out of date for field work. (for studio it is different). I knows that the PB-6 is a very good bellows but I prefer the PB-4 what have tilt and shift option (The Canon FD was as the PB-6 without tilt and shift option). Indeed today if you look for bellows the best are Novoflex with electronic contacts and tilt and shift possibility. Perfect communication between the camera and the lens (especially for aperture settings and TTL). Construct like tank. A little expensive. For lesser specialised people today there are more versatile solutions like the Laowa lenses what allows true 2:1 (3,6 with APS-C) magnification without accessoires if you want higher magnification the Laowa 25 mm 2,5X to 5. It is so good priced when you compare to our lenses during the eighties (I remember an Olympus macro lens at 2500 euros)! The quality is incredible. Indeed I continue to love the aesthetic of bellows but definitely not for the field. All the best.
Great video.
Hello Allan,
I hope you are still answering on the PB-6. While researching the item I found there were problems attaching modern
digital Nikons, but adding a tube was advised. So I bought a PB-6 on e-bay described as unused !! £130.00 and it certainly looks
it. I then saw your TH-cam including turning the camera mount 90 degs. trouble is my camera mount does turn as yours
when depressing black button, the quality is so good I’m sure it’s genuine, so I was wondering if there are two versions or the very small two screws set diagonally at the camera mount end need adjusting? Not something I would rush into without asking.
I do have a PK-13 on order anyway if my mount will not turn.
I am also awaiting a EL-Nikkor 50mm f/2.8 N as you recommend in another Y/Tube.
Many thanks Allan, your talks are always very informative. Regards Pete.
Hi Pete, you are going to love using these awesome bellows - so well made. It is a little fiddly getting late model cameras mounted, but once you a trick or two, you will be set. Bring the rear of the bellows (the camera mount) all the way back to the end of the rail. Depress the black button on the right of the camera mount and rotate the silvered sleeve counter clockwise unit the red indexing mark is at 9 0'clock. Place you camera onto the mount - it will be at a 45 degree angle when the mounting marks are aligned. When it is seated, rotate the camera another 90 degrees counter clockwise - it will straight up and down when it clicks into place. Then depress the black button on the bellows and rotate the camera back into landscape orientation - it will click into place. I shoot with a D850 and have no trouble doing it this way. As for the mount not turning, that is interesting. There is only one version of the bellows, that I know of. The set screw on the silvered part of the mount only functions as a stop for the camera. The two on the black part of the mount fit into the inner channel of the mount itself, to stop it from separating from the main body. I suppose, if one was over tightened, that might be the problem. Giving them a 10 degree turn CCW may do the trick. It shouldn't hurt anything. Are you depressing the black button fully? It doesn't free up the mount until it is all the way in. The mount only rotates 90 degrees - the index mark only goes from 12 to 9 and back again. If you are still having a problem, shoot me an email (contact@allanwallsphotography.com) and we can set up a quick Zoom meeting to figure it out.
Thanks again Allan - very timely as I have a Nikon Bellows on its way to me. Barry :)
Hi Barry, You are going to love it!
that stage youve place the subject on, where did you buy it? or maybe its custom made?? what keyword would i need to use to find that?
You mean the silver thing? It is just a lab lifter (use that keyword) with a 4" x 4" steel anvil on top - this is the anvil... amzn.to/3qWuaGW - I like it because it holds everything still, and this is the lifter...amzn.to/3zIyLAI. good luck!
@@AllanWallsPhotography thx alot for the answer 😉😉
What's that lift (make, model, etc.) that you're using to raise and lower your subject?
I was wondering the same exact thing Dimitri! Did you ever find an answer?
The Depth of Field problem: Why stay with the 50 mm lens? With a longer lens, the working distance for a given magnification is longer and the depth of field is deeper. Result, single photo rather than stacking. Just before we went digital, I was taking jewelry photos for advertising. I used extension tubes on a 135 mm lens from several feet away from the subject. The whole piece of jewelry was in sharp focus and I could fill the frame with a single ring. Thanks for the refresher course on the bellows.
Hi Francis, thanks for the thought provoking comment! Yes, the working distance is considerably longer and the depth of field is increased. At 125mm of extension you would indeed reach 1:1 magnification. Which would be excellent for shooting a piece of jewelry, but not very helpful for the 1mm subjects that I am shooting. The shorter primes give a great deal more magnification for the same extension. A 28mm prime on the same 125mm extension (at f/5.6) can get me close to 5:1. By the way, I shoot my jewelry photographs with a longer macro lens - same idea!
Bought my PB-6 in the mid-1980’s. It’s still going strong after a lot of usage. That said, it still needs to be handled with reasonable care. I wish they still sold them new. The third party choices are generally too cheap or too expensive. The PB-6 is a great choice for Nikon users.
Hi Bob... I just responded to another comment with exactly the same advice! Some of the bargain brands are really of very poor quality, and the expensive ones make no sense.
A very well explained to the full detail as usual.Keep up your good work.
Nice video again. Top!! What is that black steel/metal (?) block subject on your lift-thing? Whats the use?
They're called laboratory lifting platforms. You can get one on Amazon. I assume the use is to elevate the subject by tiny increments.
www.amazon.com/Laboratory-Platform-Stainless-Adjusting-Position/dp/B07VNGJQ68
@@charleyh1480 Thx. OK. But on top of that is a block of iron or something? For what purpose?
@@keeskraaijeveld4704 I think it's a block of plastic or something. Most likely to make it a little higher so he can the subject in focus where he wants. Once your camera is on slide rails and your bellows are on, it lifts the camera up fairly high, so you need your subject matter at the height of the lens. It's actually a good idea, I've been putting my subjects on books and adjusting the height with parts of cardboard. I'll probably be ordering one of these for myself.
Hi Kees. I see Charley has already answered the question. It is a camera base that I through on there just to add weight to the platform (for stability). I have since added an XYZ trimming table for more accurate control, so I don't need to use the extra part.
@@AllanWallsPhotography ok, thx. I have the same lab platform, but wanna make it a little bid higher. But it must stay stable. You use a iron block or something?
What is the stand you have the bellows mounted on, please
It is a basic camera stand - I can't remember where I got this one from, it is very old. This is the new and improved model (I have ordered on myself!)... www.amazon.com/Neewer-Upgraded-Release-Camcorders-Aluminium/dp/B07W2W7N5R/ref=asc_df_B07W2W7N5R/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459717376558&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5657997942456643560&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9012939&hvtargid=pla-831916670049&psc=1
Thank you
Hi Allan. What is that adjustable platform on the table that your bellows is attached to? Also the platform that your subject bottle is stood on? Thank you
These are called lab jacks - you can get them on amazon or scientific supply places. They’re used in chemistry to flexibly raise/lower glassware.