One thing I love about Dave Allen is the fact 90%of his act is "anti-religion" but he always ended with "And may your God go with you". Jokes yes, but still he respects people's rights to belief!
As an Irishman I'm So Delighted to see Mr Dave Allen still appreciated to this day his humour and storytelling was amazing thank you both of you for introducing him to a neew audience. much love
Dave Allen was regular viewing in the 70s, very funny man. Cant remember whats its called but try and watch the sketch where he finds a £5 note sticking out from under a car tyre and then waits in a cafe for the driver to drive way, classic
We grew up listening to Dave Allen and Dick Emery. Loved Dave Allan, and my dad recalled meeting him at a gig in Dublin when me and my sister were 14/15. A very nice guy, and being Irish he was my dad's favourite comedian.
I am a educated and trained aircraft engineer having worked on both European and American owned planes from European and American airliners. They do to in US. She are just one of them thinking, that when they urge you to study the safety card that says what to do in an emergency, it does not apply to her. Besides that the part of the seat you are sitting on actually are made in a way that will make it usable as a flotation device you CAN use if you land on water. That part of the seat are only fixed there by velcro for same reason. IF a plane lands on water and eventually sinks and/or breaks up their updrift are higher than the velcro attachment, thus it will float to the surface. If the landing are perfect on water, like we saw Captain Sullenberg execute it, on the Hudson River in NYC and the plane do not break up or sink, people have sufficient time to get their life jackets from below the seat where it are in a small container. The seat as a flotation device will not give enough lift to hold up a grown persons weight (displacement and all that!) but should give a helping hand. I can add that the box you see at each passenger door contain a slide that can be inflated very fast in case of an emergency evacuation of the plane. These slides have some features that can be used to transform them into boat like platforms in case of a landing on water. I am sure you can find clips of this here on TH-cam if you look for it. Given my education I have to remind all that the drive to the airport always statistically will be a much greater risk than the flight itself, no matter if you get to the airport by foot, bicycle, car, bus, train. And can I finally add that I hope the entire world will boycott flying until the big passenger plane manufacturers, like Boeing and Airbus, produce the jet engines and planes needed to fly in a climate neutral way! WE NEED Hydrogen fuelled planes and we need them NOW. It are fully technologically possible to do this today with existing knowledge. EITHER we build something better than planes for long distance travel, like a continent connecting vacuum based hyperloop OR we get hydrogen fuelled planes. WE CANNOT allow the amount of flying we do today with the amount of fossil fuels it burns off daily! There are NO planet B!
Watching comedy reactions with you guys is great👍you're always happy and cheerful, really uplifting thank you. Peace and love from a grey, cold and wet UK🤣 take care now✌️
I was 9 in 1980 when my father died and not long after, with all the religious talk I went through (my aunt died the same week) I saw Dave Allen on PBS and he makes so much sense, he de-indoctrinated me from being a Christian in about 5 minutes. Very smart.
naw, just dumb.....now you think men are women and women are men....ohhh and let's not forget about the murder of babies in the womb which is totally racist as the proportion of black babies murdered is far higher then any other ethnic group
My dad and I used to watch this together every week in Australia when I was 14 and piss ourselves laughing, then we’d watch The Two Ronnie’s. It is because of my dad that I have such a strong love for British comedy, which I have passed to my son who has a massive collection of everything funny and British. I lost my wonderful dad on the 3rd December, and this will be the first time I have watched Dave Allen since losing him. Will probably cry my eyes out, but the memories with my dad are magical.
Several comedians I would recommend: Billy Connolly - Scottish comedian Eddie Izzard - Star wars canteen Michael McIntyre - Scottish money Robin Williams - Golf Jasper Carrott - insurance claims These are some of my favourite comedians from the uk apart from the late Robin Williams. I hope you find these videos I hope you enjoy them.
Great video. Recommend you look at Jasper Carrot. He is another stand-up comedian from nearly the same area (England, not Ireland) but performs several hilarious skits. My fav is the Chinese chicken one. Enjoy!
They don't provide parachutes because the plane needs to be in stable flight to jump out of it. While the plane is in stable flight, it's under control of the pilots and your best chance of survival is a controlled emergency landing. You would only get sucked out of an airplane if the cabin is pressurized and you're at a high altitude. If you were to jump out of the plane with a parachute at that altitude, you would likely be unconscious by the time you would need to deploy the parachute. If you deployed the parachute at that altitude, you would be dead before you hit the ground due to lack of oxygen. Then there's the risk of exiting the airplane. You jump from the front emergency exits, you run the risk of hitting the wing or being ingested into the engine. You jump from the middle emergency exits, you'd be over the wing. You jump from the rear emergency exits, and you jump into the jetwash. The only safe place to jump from a jet airplane is from the rear cargo door, and most commercial jets don't have one. Finally, a mass evacuation using parachutes by untrained jumpers, would result in mid air collisions and entanglements. The survival rate of the landing would also be low if you don't know what to do.
I'm an aircraft engineer it's safer to fly than it is to travel to the airport Yes they do put a life jacket under your seat, parachute is too complex to use
The " Head in the lap " thing is about saving teeth so the coroner can use dental records to ID said unfortunates, depending how bad the crash is. Sorry 🤭
No, the head in the lap thing is so you don't flail around when you hit the ground, reducing the risk of snapping your neck or sustaining spinal cord injuries. Every instruction provided to you is to increase your chances of survival. Nobody needs to inspect your teeth after a crash. You're in your designated sheet and the manifesto will show who is who should the worst happen.
In fact the real reason is G forces. Most crashes involve a latteral force. Sitting upright your neck will break with about 7G but if you lie forward and that force is now pushing stright down on your head your neck can take about 30G before snapping.
When talking about Words & Euphemism, two Comedians comes to mind, George Carlin and Dave Allen It so happen both of them talks about Riding Airplanes and both of them are Irish
Typically, life vests are not on flights that are not scheduled to fly over water. Trans Atlantic or Pacific flights do have them. But let's face it. You slam into the ocean from 35000 feet, don't bother with the jackets. The G force will probably knock you out anyway.....possibly a blessing.
Try Micky Flanagan...'The Shits Abroad'. Hysterical. And I loved Dave Allen as a kid. Seeing u love him too now, is so awesome, I love it. Thank you so much.😊💕
you so need to watch " love thy neighbour" where a black couple move next door to a white couple , the wives get on and the white guy constantly makes outrageous fun of the black guy ,yet every episode the black guy comes out on top ,coming from a mixed race family this had us all in tears laughing
I flew on a plane 6 times but the anxiety got to me and now I can't get on a plane, imagine every time you fly your convinced you are going to crash.!! I'm happy staying in the UK having camping trips now 😂😂
I'm really enjoying the Americans reacting to the comedic genius of Dave Allen because at his prime - it was considered Americans wouldn't get his type of humour. How wrong they were- their loss
He was a Master of Comedy in Britain much Loved, His Take on Religion especially Catholic Religion. ( I personally don't follow any Religion) Obviously he's Irish from the Catholic community . His take on a young Child being introduced to Religion is fantastic. Another good one is Teaching how to read 📚 Time .Funny as Fuck
If I had to bet... I'd go with the mask and chair being a floatation device as most likely being means to keep the passengers in their chairs for identification purposes. That said I am fairly cynical these days XD
Still lifejackets on ✈️. Never.heard of floating seats. Ive flown around Europe, from Ireland to lax. To Australia, from uk via America, then Australia to uk, via Singapore. So ive crossed the Atlantic, Pacific and part of the Indian oceans
ALL commercial airliners carry life vests under the seats, ESPECIALLY if the plane is going to be travelling over water during its journey. They're USUALLY inflatable, but may also be the more conventional type if they don't like having several hundred pressurised CO2 gas canisters in the cabin.
Here is two woman to look up but only if you comfortable with plane disasters as it so rare Vesna Vulović (fell 30,000ft and survived, went back to flight attendant job until retired) Juliane Koepcke (fell 10,000ft and survived with a challenge to overcome)
Here in Scotland we have a lot of small islands and our planes are small too, so we still have life vests under the seats. The sea is so cold your gunna freeze anyway lol Its why I never leave my island
Im off sailing in the Pacific again in a couple of weeks and Id never really connected ditching a plane there vs sailing in an Ocean capable yacht. It's challenging enough on a boat. I don't even want to think about doing the same in an airplane with a rubber slide to cling to when you have thirty or forty foot waves that strech to the horizon. You're going to have to not die for several days and do half of i it n the dark without food ir water. Unless you have been there it is hard to comprehend quite how savage it can be. You can be further from the next humans than people on the ISS
One of my favorites is Stephen Wrigth (esp. the earlier ones). YT videos available, but he is not everyone's cup of tea. If you are unaware, maybe give it a listen?
Life vests are still on the plane and it's still explained how to put them on. The one thing that they don't do is let you see the vests because that frightens people.
@@trishblackham5766 They show the life jackets in the demo but the jackets are placed in a way that they are not readily seen. This is because panicky passenger can become very anxious seeing them wherever they turn. That's what I meant.
A parachute, you're going to "without training of any kind" jump out of a falling aeroplane at 500mph, opening a door and decompressing the aeroplane above 12,000ft or jumping under 12,000ft, and you think it increases your chances of survival? How many aeroplanes have you been in that actually went across any ocean or sea? US domestic flights may be different.
@@stevedarragh _Usually the over-ocean part of the flight, known as “coasting out,” is near Gander, Newfoundland, Canada. The “coast in” is the Irish coastline. Of the 3,435 nautical miles between Chicago and London, approximately 1,700 nautical miles are over the Atlantic_ ETOPS (extended Range Twin Operations) is twin engine effectively light freight or passengers... Passenger liners aren't really covered by this...
@@daveofyorkshire301 True. Passenger planes fly the shortest route possible within their flight paths. Flights between the U.S. and Europe usually fly over the Atlantic above the polar circle with nothing but water until they reach New York or the European mainland.
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One thing I love about Dave Allen is the fact 90%of his act is "anti-religion" but he always ended with "And may your God go with you". Jokes yes, but still he respects people's rights to belief!
As an Irishman I'm So Delighted to see Mr Dave Allen still appreciated to this day his humour and storytelling was amazing thank you both of you for introducing him to a neew audience. much love
He was a genius, a very brilliant man!
With you there, Liam, no-one tells an Irish joke (or any joke for that matter) like an Irishman 😁...centuries of craic & dark humour....
Dave would be chuffed he was still alive in our hearts and laughter.
I use to watch Dave Allen every week with my mum back in old days happy memories miss those times ❤️❤️
Dave teaching a child how to tell time is a must see.
Love your channel
Dave Allen was regular viewing in the 70s, very funny man.
Cant remember whats its called but try and watch the sketch where he finds a £5 note sticking out from under a car tyre and then waits in a cafe for the driver to drive way, classic
Dave is a legend.
🇮🇪
We grew up listening to Dave Allen and Dick Emery. Loved Dave Allan, and my dad recalled meeting him at a gig in Dublin when me and my sister were 14/15. A very nice guy, and being Irish he was my dad's favourite comedian.
We still have life vests on planes in Europe, I never heard of floating seats until you said it 😊
I am a educated and trained aircraft engineer having worked on both European and American owned planes from European and American airliners.
They do to in US. She are just one of them thinking, that when they urge you to study the safety card that says what to do in an emergency, it does not apply to her. Besides that the part of the seat you are sitting on actually are made in a way that will make it usable as a flotation device you CAN use if you land on water. That part of the seat are only fixed there by velcro for same reason. IF a plane lands on water and eventually sinks and/or breaks up their updrift are higher than the velcro attachment, thus it will float to the surface. If the landing are perfect on water, like we saw Captain Sullenberg execute it, on the Hudson River in NYC and the plane do not break up or sink, people have sufficient time to get their life jackets from below the seat where it are in a small container. The seat as a flotation device will not give enough lift to hold up a grown persons weight (displacement and all that!) but should give a helping hand. I can add that the box you see at each passenger door contain a slide that can be inflated very fast in case of an emergency evacuation of the plane. These slides have some features that can be used to transform them into boat like platforms in case of a landing on water. I am sure you can find clips of this here on TH-cam if you look for it. Given my education I have to remind all that the drive to the airport always statistically will be a much greater risk than the flight itself, no matter if you get to the airport by foot, bicycle, car, bus, train. And can I finally add that I hope the entire world will boycott flying until the big passenger plane manufacturers, like Boeing and Airbus, produce the jet engines and planes needed to fly in a climate neutral way! WE NEED Hydrogen fuelled planes and we need them NOW. It are fully technologically possible to do this today with existing knowledge. EITHER we build something better than planes for long distance travel, like a continent connecting vacuum based hyperloop OR we get hydrogen fuelled planes. WE CANNOT allow the amount of flying we do today with the amount of fossil fuels it burns off daily! There are NO planet B!
@@Mike-zx1kxWhat a load of Methane..
@@hansemannluchter643 You are welcome.
I'd recommend the story where he tries to teach his kid to tell the time. Unforgettable!
dave allen a master of observaional comedy and timing
he was .
Ireland had the late great Dave Allen, Scotland has/had Billy Connolly and England has Jasper Carrot.
Watching comedy reactions with you guys is great👍you're always happy and cheerful, really uplifting thank you. Peace and love from a grey, cold and wet UK🤣 take care now✌️
Thank you for reminding me of this very funny man. Proud to be Irish...
I was 9 in 1980 when my father died and not long after, with all the religious talk I went through (my aunt died the same week) I saw Dave Allen on PBS and he makes so much sense, he de-indoctrinated me from being a Christian in about 5 minutes. Very smart.
The life vest used to be just left of the ashtray.......lol
naw, just dumb.....now you think men are women and women are men....ohhh and let's not forget about the murder of babies in the womb which is totally racist as the proportion of black babies murdered is far higher then any other ethnic group
Why don't they put wings on it lmfao, that part got me.
My dad and I used to watch this together every week in Australia when I was 14 and piss ourselves laughing, then we’d watch The Two Ronnie’s. It is because of my dad that I have such a strong love for British comedy, which I have passed to my son who has a massive collection of everything funny and British. I lost my wonderful dad on the 3rd December, and this will be the first time I have watched Dave Allen since losing him. Will probably cry my eyes out, but the memories with my dad are magical.
Our memories of that time are the same. Dad, Dave Allen and the Two Ronnies.
Plus Hey Hey on Saturday
There are life vests under each chair on every plane I've ever been on xxx
Your reaction makes David even funnier! Thanks, guys. God bless!
When I was a child growing up in the UK. I watched Dave Allen shows every week on BBC. I love these reactions
you can,t beat Dave Allen years ahead of his time.
he had a good show back in the 70s & 80s. . . good days
Love your reactions have subscribed. Dave is great isn't he?
I love that you guys love Dave Allen. My parents used to watch him on TV all the time, and me and my sister laughed out loud. Hilarious.
Dave Allen was so funny and a legend.
Happy to see young people like you finding and sharing one of the old legends in comedy
Check out Dave Allen on Giving up smoking.
Hilarious! I love you guys! 😂👍
Several comedians I would recommend:
Billy Connolly - Scottish comedian
Eddie Izzard - Star wars canteen
Michael McIntyre - Scottish money
Robin Williams - Golf
Jasper Carrott - insurance claims
These are some of my favourite comedians from the uk apart from the late Robin Williams. I hope you find these videos I hope you enjoy them.
First time hearing Dave Allen and he’s hilarious! You both are a delight and such a cute couple. Thanks so much.
Great reaction, guys. Dave Allen with ANYTHING is worth watching. :)
Dave Allan was a comedic treasure.
Yes, it was over 30 years ago. Correct at the time. Glad you love it.
Great video. Recommend you look at Jasper Carrot. He is another stand-up comedian from nearly the same area (England, not Ireland) but performs several hilarious skits. My fav is the Chinese chicken one. Enjoy!
Mine was him talking about diy and him fixing toilet door…..hilarious
His shows ran from 1971-1979 with a comeback in the early 1990's. So funny and there'll never be anyone to beat him IMO.
Life jackets are still provided under the seat
I have never seen a person pulled from the water on a seat. 😂😂😂😂
Check out his British television show.
We call them aeroplanes btw.
Yeah, the stewardess would do the lifejacket routine back in the day.
Loved your reaction
They don't provide parachutes because the plane needs to be in stable flight to jump out of it. While the plane is in stable flight, it's under control of the pilots and your best chance of survival is a controlled emergency landing.
You would only get sucked out of an airplane if the cabin is pressurized and you're at a high altitude. If you were to jump out of the plane with a parachute at that altitude, you would likely be unconscious by the time you would need to deploy the parachute. If you deployed the parachute at that altitude, you would be dead before you hit the ground due to lack of oxygen.
Then there's the risk of exiting the airplane. You jump from the front emergency exits, you run the risk of hitting the wing or being ingested into the engine. You jump from the middle emergency exits, you'd be over the wing. You jump from the rear emergency exits, and you jump into the jetwash. The only safe place to jump from a jet airplane is from the rear cargo door, and most commercial jets don't have one.
Finally, a mass evacuation using parachutes by untrained jumpers, would result in mid air collisions and entanglements. The survival rate of the landing would also be low if you don't know what to do.
Always sit in the back of the plane because planes don’t reverse into mountains 😂
I'm an aircraft engineer it's safer to fly than it is to travel to the airport
Yes they do put a life jacket under your seat, parachute is too complex to use
Love Dave Allen. You two should try a duo of British comedians. The two Ronnie's or Morecambe and wise. Omg and Tommy Cooper
Brilliant Comedian
Genius.
The " Head in the lap " thing is about saving teeth so the coroner can use dental records to ID said unfortunates, depending how bad the crash is.
Sorry 🤭
No, the head in the lap thing is so you don't flail around when you hit the ground, reducing the risk of snapping your neck or sustaining spinal cord injuries.
Every instruction provided to you is to increase your chances of survival. Nobody needs to inspect your teeth after a crash. You're in your designated sheet and the manifesto will show who is who should the worst happen.
In fact the real reason is G forces. Most crashes involve a latteral force. Sitting upright your neck will break with about 7G but if you lie forward and that force is now pushing stright down on your head your neck can take about 30G before snapping.
Dave Allen Teaching his don the time Hilarious
The stewardess still use's the emergency procedure before taking off. on all British airlines.
great reaction from you two he was very popular in the 1970's when i was growing up this video is from 1993
Thank you for that...three other Irish comedians to check out...Dara Ó Briain, Dylan Moran and Tommy Tiernan...you won’t be disappointed🤩
Ok comedians in their own right but for me not a patch on the great Dave Allen
You guy's are fantastic
This was back in the '70s, and lifevests was all there was. lol
When talking about Words & Euphemism, two Comedians comes to mind, George Carlin and Dave Allen
It so happen both of them talks about Riding Airplanes and both of them are Irish
Typically, life vests are not on flights that are not scheduled to fly over water. Trans Atlantic or Pacific flights do have them. But let's face it. You slam into the ocean from 35000 feet, don't bother with the jackets. The G force will probably knock you out anyway.....possibly a blessing.
An airliner at 35,000 ft, with no power can glide for 20+ miles and land flat.
We have lost a lot of our best comedians, Dave was one of our best. Billy Connelly is another good stand up.
I fly regularly and the life vest is still a thing.
They have a vest under every seat
Try Micky Flanagan...'The Shits Abroad'. Hysterical.
And I loved Dave Allen as a kid. Seeing u love him too now, is so awesome, I love it. Thank you so much.😊💕
Recommend 'Milton Jones in Dublin' and Ray Alan and Lord Charles
To parachute you need to travelling about 90mph
you so need to watch " love thy neighbour" where a black couple move next door to a white couple , the wives get on and the white guy constantly makes outrageous fun of the black guy ,yet every episode the black guy comes out on top ,coming from a mixed race family this had us all in tears laughing
British humour is brilliant & witty.
How he lost his finger 😂
Love your videos!! Have you checked out an old British series known as 'Bottom' it's brilliant 👏 best wishes from Goathland North Yorkshire England 😊
lovely couple
Now play his monologue called Is Ed In. Dave Allen at his funniest. 🤣🤣
They still have life jackets under the seat.
I flew on a plane 6 times but the anxiety got to me and now I can't get on a plane, imagine every time you fly your convinced you are going to crash.!! I'm happy staying in the UK having camping trips now 😂😂
I'm really enjoying the Americans reacting to the comedic genius of Dave Allen because at his prime - it was considered Americans wouldn't get his type of humour.
How wrong they were- their loss
ah grew up watchin Dave Allen he cracked everyone up an still does today , yeah trully a great , aye ! P S just watch every thing .
The Black Box Recorder was invented in Australia
He was a Master of Comedy in Britain much Loved, His Take on Religion especially Catholic Religion. ( I personally don't follow any Religion) Obviously he's Irish from the Catholic community . His take on a young Child being introduced to Religion is fantastic. Another good one is Teaching how to read 📚 Time .Funny as Fuck
If I had to bet...
I'd go with the mask and chair being a floatation device as most likely being means to keep the passengers in their chairs for identification purposes. That said I am fairly cynical these days XD
Still lifejackets on ✈️. Never.heard of floating seats. Ive flown around Europe, from Ireland to lax. To Australia, from uk via America, then Australia to uk, via Singapore. So ive crossed the Atlantic, Pacific and part of the Indian oceans
ALL commercial airliners carry life vests under the seats, ESPECIALLY if the plane is going to be travelling over water during its journey. They're USUALLY inflatable, but may also be the more conventional type if they don't like having several hundred pressurised CO2 gas canisters in the cabin.
I still fly today and they still have life vests.
They never tell you about turbulence either .And that can certainly be bad
Here is two woman to look up but only if you comfortable with plane disasters as it so rare
Vesna Vulović (fell 30,000ft and survived, went back to flight attendant job until retired)
Juliane Koepcke (fell 10,000ft and survived with a challenge to overcome)
I and millions watch him, you the younger GK, great
It depends on the airline they have to provide either a vest or flotation device both have their flaws
Floatation devices are not needed over flights that are flying over land.
Have a look at the Two Ronnie's, Fork Handles sketch.
Jarlath Regan a contemporary Irish comedian is worth checking out.
Here in Scotland we have a lot of small islands and our planes are small too, so we still have life vests under the seats. The sea is so cold your gunna freeze anyway lol Its why I never leave my island
I will simply recommend of dave allen. Vagaries of the English language. I promise you, you will laugh your socks off. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Im off sailing in the Pacific again in a couple of weeks and Id never really connected ditching a plane there vs sailing in an Ocean capable yacht.
It's challenging enough on a boat. I don't even want to think about doing the same in an airplane with a rubber slide to cling to when you have thirty or forty foot waves that strech to the horizon. You're going to have to not die for several days and do half of i it n the dark without food ir water.
Unless you have been there it is hard to comprehend quite how savage it can be. You can be further from the next humans than people on the ISS
You should react to
Josh Wolf best practical joke ever
When I go to Berlin, I have nothing to worry about.Tony
This would have been in the 70’s or 80’s when airplanes were always crashing or being hijacked.
I'm so doing that from now on 🦈
Check out Freddie Starr's Vincent Routine
You guys should watch, monty python, the dead parrot sketch
Once sat next to him in a restaurant in England..
International flights are different than flights that just travel the U.S.
Try
Al Murray (secretary)
@@tradeladder146 snowflake
One of my favorites is Stephen Wrigth (esp. the earlier ones). YT videos available, but he is not everyone's cup of tea. If you are unaware, maybe give it a listen?
You could try Danny Bhoy... he's Scottish Indian...try him..
Life vests are still on the plane and it's still explained how to put them on. The one thing that they don't do is let you see the vests because that frightens people.
I was in a flight last month and they do still show life jackets - it depends on the airline
@@trishblackham5766 They show the life jackets in the demo but the jackets are placed in a way that they are not readily seen. This is because panicky passenger can become very anxious seeing them wherever they turn. That's what I meant.
Commercial jets are moving too fast to parachute and you couldn't get the people suited up and out the door on time anyway.
A parachute, you're going to "without training of any kind" jump out of a falling aeroplane at 500mph, opening a door and decompressing the aeroplane above 12,000ft or jumping under 12,000ft, and you think it increases your chances of survival?
How many aeroplanes have you been in that actually went across any ocean or sea? US domestic flights may be different.
Is that ETOPS regulations that keep the flying time over open water to a minimum where possible. You never go 'as the crow flies'?
@@stevedarragh _Usually the over-ocean part of the flight, known as “coasting out,” is near Gander, Newfoundland, Canada. The “coast in” is the Irish coastline. Of the 3,435 nautical miles between Chicago and London, approximately 1,700 nautical miles are over the Atlantic_
ETOPS (extended Range Twin Operations) is twin engine effectively light freight or passengers... Passenger liners aren't really covered by this...
@@daveofyorkshire301 True. Passenger planes fly the shortest route possible within their flight paths. Flights between the U.S. and Europe usually fly over the Atlantic above the polar circle with nothing but water until they reach New York or the European mainland.