Beethoven: 5. Sinfonie ∙ hr-Sinfonieorchester ∙ Andrés Orozco-Estrada
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- Ludwig van Beethoven:
5. Sinfonie ∙
(Auftritt) 00:00 ∙
I. Allegro con brio 00:17 ∙
II. Andante con moto 07:25 ∙
III. Allegro 17:12 ∙
IV. Allegro - Presto 24:38 ∙
hr-Sinfonieorchester - Frankfurt Radio Symphony ∙
Andrés Orozco-Estrada, Dirigent ∙
Ludwig van ... ∙
Alte Oper Frankfurt, 12. Februar 2016 ∙
Website: www.hr-sinfonieorchester.de ∙
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This has become my "go to" orchestra, especially now with social distancing, sheltering in place, etc. What a great source of uplift and encouragement.
For me, a person who is much into renaissance and baroque music, this has become my ONLY to go orchestra. :)
They have apparently opted to forego income from their video views, and we can therefore watch an entire piece without being interrupted by commercials. THANK YOU.
@@davidlohman1475 or you can use Brave for the others
@@davidlohman1475 Part of the thanks goes to the german taxpayers who pay for this orchestra (and many others). None of the national broadcast channels have ads on their videos, I guess they wouldn't even be allowed to
refuse the c - vaxx
The transition to the third to fourth movement is one of the best moments in all beethoven symphonies.
I literally can't help grinning from ear to ear every single time I hear it. It's pure magic.
Yes, it represents the transition from misery to triumph.
In all of music.
Absolutely. I love how the whole symphony just builds and builds as the tension grows thicker and thicker and then it just explodes as the 3rd movement gives way to the 4th, and all that is left is pure ecstatic release.
@@rahulradhakrishnan5591 really? Can you give me a time stamp for the transition?
I have to mention this...I read once about a critic, who when he first hear the 5th Symphony, said that after hearing it he went to put on his hat "but couldn't find my head." Fifty years ago when I first heard this work I couldn't find my head either, and I wasn't wearing a hat. This work leaves me breathless every time I hear it!
I love this HR FRANKFURT SYMPHONY. I love its clean pure sound, its strings, its wood winds, its brass, its splendid theater, and of course its conductor.
A big part of it is the recording equipment, but if you don't have good sound, it won't translate well in the recording. I think it's less quality live at the theatre than in the recording but it's still definitely world class. This is my favourite symphony and conductor.
yes this conductor is truely marvelous
And the best Part is That all people in germany have to pay for it. Even if they hate it😉
Just a bit too fast for my liking but only a bit!
@@awakenedbahamut2574I wholeheartedly disagree.. musicians > recording quality
Andrés Orozco's full-body conducting is like seeing music.
Aber sein Dirigieren scheint nicht mit den Einsätzen übereinzustimmen. Entweder schlecht gefilm oder er hatte keinen guten Tag.😂
Mr. Duchamp commented that this performance is played with "open strings", and he misses the vibrato usually heard; even so, he gives it a general thumbs-up. So do I...and certainly it is a matter of taste, whether vibrato or not...but I find this open-string approach to be eminently expressive. Many of us are "old" enough to remember how the more "traditional" interpretations sounded...and it is very refreshing to hear these flatter tones, the crisper tempi, and the resulting clarity; check out the 3rd set, when the basses and celli enter with their rapid fugal theme; what once sounded like so many tiddelywinks falling on the floor now has total order. Oh yes, another superlative HR Orchestra/Orozco- Estrada achievement! JAT
In addition to the wonderful maestro and musicians, a special shoutout to the superb sound engineers and director who clearly has an intimate knowledge of the music and cuts between cameras in perfectly synch. Magnificent
When Beethoven heard this profomence in heaven he would have been deeply satisfied and very pleased this is spectacular playing by a truly magnificent orchestra.
This is one of the finest versions of the fifth that I have listened to in over 60 years . Impeccable conducting and orchestra performance . 10 likes .
Agree. Excellent conductor.
je suis d'accord avec vous! Je redécouvre cette symphonie grâce à cette version magistrale!@@adrimellet3964
Allegro con brio - 0:15
Andante con moto - 7:24
Allegro - 16:50
Allegro - Presto - 24:39
thx
@Nikolai Fernando no idk
Andante com moto mkkkkkkkk
Danke
I stumbled across these guys by accident and they're absolutely captivating. I've been a "Karajan/Berlink Philharmoniker" guy all my life but this orchestra under Orozco-Estrada has redefined Beethoven's symphonies for me. Gloriously well done!
Likewise... I always thought no one would be able to approach Karajan or Fürtwangler... but I was wrong!
When you heard Beethoven 5th so many times, you could almost know the next pharse. Andres manged to give new meanings to the dynamics, balance between strings, brass and woodwinds, even to the intensity of the tone colors. Such new meanings give the music a new life without compromising what Beethoven trying to communicate to his audience. Well done!!
I know Beethovens symphonies by heart and can sing along to every note 🙃
@@sisfantasto7004 They are the best "earworms" even when they are not on!
Love this orchestra and this conductor. Have heard this piece hundreds of times, but picked up some nuances here that I had missed before. And those cellists are rock stars.
60여년전 소낙비 천둥소리 번개가 치는 과수원 오두막에서 트란지스터 단파 라디오로 운명교양곡을 아늑하게느워서
들을때 비소리 바람소리 와 함께어울린 음악을 잊을스가없이 해복 했습니딘
Props to the sound technicians! I had never been able to listen to the piccolo flute in the last movement and it indeed deepens the dimension of the symphony.
It's just so mind bending that any human could come up with just these certain placing of notes and instruments together. The themes, developments, harmonies, assigning of certain notes and little supporting figures large and small to the different voices of the orchestra. Incredible genius. And people who know nothing of all this fabulous world of great music Do know when a work is great, and when it's not so great. What an incredible blessing that Beethoven, Mozart, Schubert, Schumann, Strausses, Wagner, and a few others were given the heavenly gift of musical genius, that they might then enrich all our lives. We who live all over the planet. And what an ineffable gem is this orchestra and its splendid conductor! Deo gratias.
Maestro Estrada brings out the magic in every work. He makes the connection between the composer and the public. Pure magic!
He truely is one of a kind and very valueable to the classical community
It’s an awful performance….not every conductor on the planet is great. This nonsense has to atop
@@sark4786 why is it awful?
@@0uttis dry, missed multiple cues, when he does cue it’s dry, hence the dry performance. Tempo issues all over the place . It’s abundantly clear the musicians are not happy with the conductor
@@sark4786 which performance would you recommend for this symphony?
Amazing performance, incredible orchestra under the batton of the great conductor Orozco-Estrada. You can hear his breathing between the tiny pauses at the end of the piece.
The genius Beethoven comes alive and they're breathing together. ❤
Just finished my 5-page paper analyzing of the form of the first movement! Listening to the transition into the 4th now as a treat, and ... wow, it's always blown me away, but coming at it after the total, hope-crushing end of the first movement is just so fantastic.
This is my favorite Beethoven symphony followed closely by his 7th. I love this one so much because the whole transcends the parts. The whole things just comes together beautifully, especially as it builds up towards the fourth movement and finally ruptures in pure ecstasy.
40 years and i listen to this composition, and everytime i found something new, new variation new melodies new notes never heard before
Liebes hr-Sinfonoieorchester,
ich bin in Frankfurt aufgewachsen und habe die Stadt 2017 verlassen, um in Köln Musik zu studieren. Ich traue mir ein Urteil über die Qualität von Orchestern dieser Liga nicht zu und möchte euch mit niemandem vergleichen, Köln hat tolle Orchester. Ich kann nur jenseits von jedem Musikmangel und - wie gesagt - jenseits von jedem objektiven qualitativen Urteil sagen:
Ich vermisse euch, "die Persönlichkeit eures Orchesters". Ihr seid einfach der Hammer.
Liebe Grüße an Uli Franck und an alle anderen!
Felix Läpple
Everything about this was phenomenal! The energy of the orchestra, the purity of the sound of each instrument, the amazing camera work. And of course, the wonderful Maestro. Bravissimo!!!!!!
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What a great orchestra! Clean and tight even at this pace... And Orozco-Estrada is clearly into it as well.
This stunning and moving performance gives light to so many reflective moments in Beethoven's work, especially in the First Movement!
Thank you!!!
This performance is, for me, one of the major milestones in the wide variety of interpretations of Beethoven's Fifth Symphony (other major milestones: Karajan, Kleiber, Harnoncourt, Harding, Gardiner)
Hugo Olivares if you got spotify or anything like that search for „Ensemble Reflektor“ they have a recording of it in the album „Gewaltakt“ listen to that. It‘s insane. It‘s a german youth orchestra and they also play with natural french horn and natural trumpets and with not many people. The best recording i know
To that list, I would add Arturo Toscanini and Sir Georg Solti.
@@ricardopardo666 Agree
Bernstein,Ozawa e Jansons too!
@@serendrixsan9191 Thanks!! I will listen it!
Das Werk selbst ist ein Geniestreich, die ganze Umsetzung perfekt, ein einziger Genuss, ein Ohrgasmus folgt dem anderen. Berührend, wie der Maestro zum Schluss den Musikern applaudiert und die einzelnen Künstler und die Instrumentengruppen dem Publikum präsentiert. Wenn ich für mich selbst nur einen Wunsch freihätte, würde ich mir das Liveerlebnis so einer Aufführung erbitten.
Ohrgasmus, cooles Wortspiel👍
I listened to many symphonies performed by Frankfurt Radio Symphony under Andrés Orozco-Estrada and published here and I must admit they are all exquisite. I like the tempo, clarity of the sound, quality of the recording is marvellous.
Welch ein Glück dass wir in Deutschland so viele wunderbare Orchester haben. Und vor Allem:Diese so genannten B-Orchester ermöglichen uns wunderbare Klangerlebnisse in voller Länge.Das liebe BPO etc. schreibt euch mal hinter die Ohren.
Estrada's energy is contagious.
I love this HR FRANKFURT symphony, I will start with this clear sound, I love these strings, wooden instruments, all that brass, all this theater, this atmosphere, this conductor, I love this conductor, I admire..thank you maestro. Bravo....
Simplemente maravilloso! I have hear this symphony many, many times in different renditions. But today somehow, this version sounded just perfect!
Thank you Andrés Orozco-Estrada and hr-Sinfonieorchester. May I be able to attend one of your concerts one day!
Qué gusto tener a este compatriota dirigiendo a semejantes orquestas clásicas. Felicitaciones.
Бетховен в прошлой жизни был латиноамериканцем - взрыв эмоции.
Was für eine tolle Aufnahme! Sehr gute Tonqualität- ist eben auch das HR-Sinfonieorchester.
I love the quality of your recordings.Thank you very much for making them available.
I love the pace of this, and great sound quality!
alanlua Beethoven wanted it played at 108 bpm
That is fast
Meister Estrada hat es voll drauf .Er trifft alles genau im richtigen Ton und Tempo . Einer der besten
überhaupt .
Gruß
Bernd - Heinz DAIMER
wonderful, the 5th symphony needs to last immortal
What a Sound, what a Orchestra and this wonderful Conductor 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
vaya, dinámica directriz que mostrara Andrés y la perfección sustentada por hr-Sinfonieorchester ! felicidades !
One of the best symphonies ever written. Hands down. Well done, Maestro
The tempo is absolutely perfect! It reminds me the Jascha Horenstein version with Wien Philarmonic
love to the brass section of this orchestra ,
Thank you. That's the tempo. Beautifully done.
10:07 I was very happy to see that good shot on the violas. Beethoven was a master at harmonies such at this in the violas.
Absolutely joyful triumph! Thank you!
Andrés Orozco-Estrada fez história mais uma vez. Enorme riqueza de timbres e detalhes da partitura. Da mesma forma, fantástica eloquência interpretativa. Sua performance rivaliza-se com a melhor Karajan dos áureos tempos com a BPO, embora os estilos sejam totalmente diferentes. Verdadeiramente uma gravação distinta, obrigatória de conhecimento para todos os amantes da música de concerto. Uma versão personalizada com tudo de bom. BRAVO!!!!!
Crisp, controlled yet fresh and not lacking in emotional impact. Bravo!
beautifully recorded. Fantastic audio.
Another stellar performance by brilliant maestro Orozco and this magnificent orchestra. Bravo, Bravissimi!!! Thank you!
It is so endearing that this conductor gives applause to his own orchestra and honors his musicians! I think Orozco-Estrada is the most sympathetic conductor of this era.
THE BEST IN ORIGINAL INSTRUMENTS!!!! BRAVO !!!!
love this orchestra and the maestro~ 👏👏
Diese Interpretation gibt dem Werk endlich das was es noch nie hatte, die Brutalität. Wunderbar.
Brutalität? - Na, ich weiß nicht. Das ist eher lärmend - und mit der Zeit für den Hörer ermüdend. Als ob der permanente Wechsel zwischen unhörbar leisen Stellen, knallig herausgestellten Sforzati/Fortissimo-Stellen und ziemlich rasanten Tempi allein schon den Charakter dieser Musik ausmachen würde. Die Streicher sind teilweise so leise und dünn, dass sie zum einen gar nicht mehr hörbar sind (oder nur sehr verwaschen) und zum anderen dabei die Klangbalance völlig flöten geht.
Hören Sie hier th-cam.com/video/de7QndXj5is/w-d-xo.html mal rein. Das ist für mich .mindestens genauso "brutal" - da wird obendrein aber noch richtig intelligent musiziert, sodass es mich als Hörer auch emotional anspricht. Und das kann ich mir auch mehrmals hintereinander anhören, ohne dass mir langweilig wird.
Bei dem, was Herr Orozco-Estrada hier als Beethoven 5 präsentiert, habe ich als Hörer leider schon nach dem ersten Mal das Gefühl, alles gehört zu haben.
@@conbrio825 Naja, diese Interpretation ist weder musikalisch besser noch authentischer. Lasen sie es mich erläutern!
1. Die Originale Instrumentenbesetzung ist bei diesem Stück unheimlich wichtig, dies wird bei der Interpretation leider vernachlässigt.
2. Werden in ihrer Interpretation normale Ventilhörner und Trompeten eingesetzt, da die Synphonie in der Trompeten und Hornstimme nur Töne der Naturtonreihe vorkommen wäre es problemlos möglich Natur- Hörner, Trompeten einzusetzen. Das macht es Stilechter.
3. Zu ihrer Kritik das das Stück so flötig klingen würde, wenn wir nun auf die Stilechte Original Disposition zurückgreifen dann haben wir nun einen sehr holzigen und "dicken" Klang. Wenn Beethoven diese beide Interpretationen hören würde würde er sich zu 100% für gar keine Entscheiden und seine eigene aufführen.
LG
@@christophmoller3962
"Diese Interpretation ist weder musikalisch besser noch authentischer." - Da gehen unsere Ansichten aber ziemlich weit auseinander.
zu 1./2.:
Was heißt "stilechter"? - Geht's hier um Möbel oder um Musik?
Entweder macht man's konsequent zu 100 Prozent "stilecht" auf historischen Instrumenten oder aber zu 100 Prozent mit einem modernen Instrumentarium. Alles andere ist für mich ein instrumentaler Mischmasch, der beim Hörer offenbar den Anschein von Authentizität erwecken soll: Seht her, ich mach's sogar mit originalen Instrumenten - da muss ja was Tolles dabei rauskommen.
Und warum haben eigentlich die Dirigenten und Orchester in den Jahrzehnten/-hunderten nach Beethoven die "originale" Besetzung nicht beibehalten, wenn sie denn angeblich so essenziell für Beethovens Sinfonik ist? Gerade diese musikalische Experten hätten doch um die angebliche Bedeutung für den Klang/die Interpretation dieser Sinfonik wissen müssen.
Im Übrigen ist eine originale Instrumentenbesetzung noch lange keine Garantie dafür, dass die Interpretation des Stückes auch überzeugend ist. Nach Ihrer Argumentation müsste man ja einfach nur alles auf historischen Instrumenten spielen lassen und - schwups - kämen grandiose 1A-Aufführungen heraus.
Aber was nützt das "stilechteste" Ensemble, wenn der Dirigent keinen blassen Schimmer davon hat, was in der Partitur vor sich geht bzw. was eigentlich "hinter den Noten" steht? Dann können auch die "stilechtesten" Instrumente das nicht wettmachen.
Und was ist mit den ganzen Beethoven-Interpretationen von Furtwängler, Toscanini, Klemperer, Böhm, Karajan etc. (von Günter Wand mal ganz zu schweigen). Sind die jetzt Ihrer Meinung nach alle Schrott und für die Tonne, nur weil die Herren nicht auf "stilechtem" Instrumentarium haben spielen lassen?
Worum geht's denn bei klassischer Musik? - Darum, auf welchen Instrumenten man spielt, oder eher darum, was der Komponist in seiner Partitur ausdrücken, welche Botschaft er vermitteln wollte? - Ich meine, es geht um letzteres:
- th-cam.com/video/kl6w4GUUoaQ/w-d-xo.html
- th-cam.com/video/kl6w4GUUoaQ/w-d-xo.html
Magistral sinfonia, excelente orquesta y muy buena dureccion de Orosco-Estrada.....felicitaciones.
Splendida orchestra. Eccellente ripresa sia audio che video. Direttore entusiasta e in piena sintonia con l'orchestra. La hr-Sinfonieorchester è un vero standard di qualità. Insieme alla Sinfonica de Galicia è la più bella realtà per l'ascolto e la visione della grande musica su youtube. Complimenti
Great ensemble and performance. I think working with Mr Orozco-Estrada is very pleasant. Great presence.
Such lovely crisp rhythms, all so energetic-it sounds like a fresh work! Bravo.
lovely crisp bald head youve got there bro
Que emoción ver al Colombiano Andres Orozco, impecable.
si, impecable. orgullo latinoamericano
Another remarkable performance by this extraordinary orchestra. Bravo!!
props to the hornist and the trumpetist who are using natural trumpets and horns. beautifully conceptualized!
Valentine's day 2022... vielen Dank Maestro Orozco-Estrada und hr Symphony Orchestra
danke vielmal
❣️wonderschön musik
Magnificent performance. No vibrato in the strings, and inclusion of the repeat passage in the third movement.
Exzellente Aufführung, vor allem das Scherzo gerade hervorragend!! Chapeau @hrSinfonieorchester
Como é difícil tocar essa obra e enfrentar o fantasma de Karrajan!!! Tem que ter muita coragem!!! É loucura! E Andrés Orozco-Estrada fez o impossível! E a orquestra também! O que é ótimo para a arte. Karajan é um gigante nesta obra e esta versão nada tem a dever para a de Karajan. Depois de tantos anos surgiu alguém a altura !!! Bravo HR!!!! Nada tem a dever a BPO. O Karajan deve estar aplaudindo do lado de lá!!!
Bravo 👏 great performance
대한민국에서도 듣고 있어요!
좋은 연주 감사합니다^^♡
Отличная энергичная подача и темп!!!! БРАВО!
Музыка объединяет нас как людей, несмотря ни на что.
Sí señor, excelente versión, orquesta y director.
World best symphony my favorite symphony excellent
Fantastic,Andre's
So nice to see Orozco-Estrada conduct anything!
When I first began listening to symphonies, there was Toscanini and Koussevitzky, and I was more taken with the latter's Romantic, emotional way with them than with the former's Classically-oriented precision which I thought lacked warmth. Orozco-Estrada's Beethoven definitely falls into the Toscanini tradition; he drives this most famous of all symphonies without mercy, with a strength and fury which seems to lack the heart and soul which other interpretations capture, the aforementioned Koussevitzky among them. My favorite recording of the stereo era is Karl Bohm's with the Vienna Philharmonic, which brings both the power and the more tender emotions as I'm sure Beethoven wished, as it's surely in the score.
For me the best conductor and the best orchestra
Amazing to think Beethoven wrote the 5'th and 6'th at the same time, such totally different pieces...
23:43 I'd never heard that before! The whole passage starting some 30 seconds before is amazing!
World best music symphony my favorite music symphony orchestra world best Beethoven
Dans cet enregistrement magnifique il y a trois grands artistes : Le chef d'orchestre, ses musiciens et le travail très professionnel de la caméra ce qui est rarement mentionné dans la critique des auditeurs. Une version de référence de cette cinquième symphonie et de cet orchestre vraiment admirable et très bien dirigé. Bravo et merci !
Bonsoir. Bien que la précision et l'usure lente du métronome de Maelzel (sur lequel se fait Ludwig) soient parfois discutée s, il n'en reste pas moins que le tempo "nerveux" d'Orozco m'enchante, et avec lui cet orchestre fabuleux, digne des orchestres "stars"
Meravigliosa esecuzione.
OMG this is amazing!!!!!
This is the best performance for the Beethoven's 5th.! An excellent symphony orchestra and conductor!
This performance is bad. You obviously didn't listen to Carlos Kleiber's version. Here it is so listen, there is no better performance than this version: th-cam.com/video/RKcAAA1O2sc/w-d-xo.html
@@rastkojacimovic9727 I feel for people who can only like one thing, and everything else, for them, is bad; apparently they see one thing white and everything else black, no colors, no shades, no forms. Poor people. In humble my opinion, while Carlos Kleiber's rendition of the fifth is absolutely wonderful, among the best ever recorded, there are some other approaches that cast new light and new shine on art. It is art, after all, no cold arithmetic with one single correct answer, right?
Not long ago, a BBC magazine asked some one hundred of the leading conductors alive to vote for the 20 greatest of all time. As expected, these professionals only considered votes for conductors who left recordings, leaving aside conductors from the past even if their names were legend. Carlos Kleiber was named by his peers the greatest of all time, above Abbado, Von Karajan, Bernstein, Klemperer or Shostakovich; so, comparing (just to disqualify) every performance againts the equivalent by Kleiber, sounds a little fanatic and may not be very encouraging for those in the craft.
@@1117Sancho First of all, imagine my opinion as fanatical even though you don't know what you mean. Second, you asked a question; namely, that there are no answers that are right and wrong when it comes to art. They don't seem to have heard of aesthetics - a philosophical discipline that deals with, among other things, issues of this kind. You have asked your question in the form of a rhetorical question, and you have already assumed the answer, and that is that there is no right or wrong answer when it comes to aesthetic judgments. First, not everyone thinks so. Immanuel Kant, one of the greatest estheticians, believes that aesthetic judgments are objective, and that when I judge that something is beautiful, I have the right to ask others to agree with my claim, because there are objective criteria on the basis of which aesthetic courts. In other words, Kant thinks that aesthetic judgments are objective, not subjective as is usually naively assumed.
He dealt with this in his Critique of the Power of Judgment. And, besides, what you claimed - namely, that there are no right and wrong answers to aesthetic questions - stems from that naive assumption that tastes should not be discussed. If we accepted that, then aesthetics would not even exist. Also, I did not fanatically claim anything, but expressed my opinion. And now I ask you, how did you come to the conclusion that there is no color or other art forms of expression in Kleiber's interpretation? The list you are talking about is ridiculous, because the conductors you mentioned are not even close to the best. Abado is a horribly bad conductor. My favorite conductor is Sergiu Celibidache. Listen, for example, to his interpretations of Bruckner and everyone else, and you will see why he is the best conductor, as well as other works. I’m not saying all his interpretations are the best, but some are unattainable. as, for example, interpretations of Bruckner's symphonies with his slow tempo in which each individual element develops into one gigantic whole. It is the same with other symphonies and complex works in general. For example, his performance of Dvorak's 9th Symphony or Tchaikovsky's first piano concerto with Barenboim.
@@1117Sancho The three best conductors, in my opinion, are Sergiu Celibidache, Carlos Kleiber and Georg Solti. There are other great ones, but these three are exceptional.
@@rastkojacimovic9727 Generally speaking, there are those who know, and there are those who think they know.
The former have digested knowledge to form criteria, to build up wisdom; they respect and value everyone's point of view. Their opinions are usually full of nouns and verbs, and rarely based on adjectives.
The later base their opinions in qualifications and disqualifications, normally full of adjectives. Often times they go through life with an "I-know-a-lot-because-I've-read-in-every-train-ride" attitude, and quoting some authority, normally out of context, as to support and accommodate their criticism. In doing so they manage to sound erudite (and pedantic) in front of most, but in reality their points rarely withstand a more in-depth analysis.
They forget every big thinker has been contradicted for at least another one just as big or more, if not by the massive evidence of the absurd; and Kant is no exception.
If the aesthetic judgment processes were as objective as you think Kant said, we would have to accept there is one, and exactly only one beautiful woman in the world, for any objective aesthetical judgement would be incompatible with the notion of two different beauties. For your sake, I hope it is your significant one.
Additionally, for somebody who defines himself as NOT having a fanatical opinion, your description of Claudio Abaddo sounds a little drastic, to say the least. Apparently the millions who loved his work, and gave him fame, praise and wealth, were wrong; they should have asked you before hiring him, and paying him money and recognition, right?
Thank God Kant does not say what you think he says (at least not the way you appear to understand it), and by the way, not even you believe it so deeply in your mind, as proven by your two last sentences. There you go subjective when presenting the names of your three (a plural number, which already contradicts your theoretical reasoning) favorite conductors, making crystal clear it is your opinion, and even stating there is a second tier of great conductors.
Well, I have to say I not only respect your subjective opinion, but I also agree that the ones you mention are among the top conductors in recorded history.
I just believe they are not the only ones; conductors have fields of expertise too (certain composers, genres or eras) in which they feel more comfortable and their performances are more pleasant to more people.
I respect the work done by Abbado as a conductor and as a musical director with some of the very best orchestras in the world, including LPO, VPO, BPO and others.
Finally I'm going to come up with a quotation, (something I normally try to stay away of):
In writing this, TS Eliot provided the base of the (later developed) pyramid organization of knowledge, in one of his most celebrated poems: "Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?"
Detonou!!!! Bravo!!!!
Wow! una composición de un Genio que nunca morirá! para mi, un fantástico compositor que quedó en la historia del planeta tierra!
That was so good! Thank you!
Wowwww!!!!! Finally Maestro Orozco re invented music !
After listening to his versions can’t go back to Karajan, Rattle or Bernstein because I will definitely fall sleep on their orthodox versions 👊👌
Thank you for this amazing performance 👍 Great understanding of music language, rhetoric, the storytelling. Rare to hear in classical music performances, as most seek perfection in the obvious technicalities - exactness, intonation, starting and finishing together, playing from soft to loud - which are of course necessary parts of music making but usually take away the focus from the main purpose of music composition - which is to speak through music by analysing and understanding that different group of notes represents different words, which need to be connected in a manner to form logical sentences and these sentences need to be connected furthermore to form meaningful stories full of different characters. It should be one of the main subjects in (classical) music education as it is not easy to grasp at all. It's almost but forgotten knowledge.
I love the period correct Instruments, it sounds so open and beautiful
Musica celestial . Asi toca el destino a nuestra puerta Ese es eĺ mensaje de esta sinfonia .
La música clásica purifica el espíritu,y da tranquilidad ,
"Bravissimo" to Maestro and the orchestra !
Preciosidade!!!!
simply wonderful.
Awesome performance!!!
I have already heard several interpretations of this Beethoven masterpiece, however this is one of the best heard so far, not only for the sensitivity of the amazing orchestral director but also for the performance of the orchestra.The sound is fabulous and the cadence magnificent. Thanks for this remarkable recording.
I've listened to several versions and this one is my favorite too. This version directs its energy more precisely, more deftly
Pela primeira vez q ouvi a quinta achei q a paixao seria eterna! Nao deu outra.
STRAORDINARIA!!!!!!!INTERPRETAZIONE MAGNIFICA.
Muito bem executado . Não fica atrás de nenhuma outra grande orquestra .
Beautiful performance! It is a joy to see a group of people commonly deliver such food for the soul. For me this artwork of Beethoven seems to me even existing before Beethoven came to life - just as the powerful and divine evangelium which Jesus revealed to us.
i saw him with the Houston symphony , an amazing conductor .
Bravo! Exzellent!
truly fantastic music!