I always liked how they portrayed “The Bomb”. Even as a kid, not knowing what a nuclear weapon was, the way General Rogard reacts in stunned disbelief, the music drops, the silence after Mansley suggests it, all emphasize the gravity of Mansley’s idea. Even with a giant robot erasing tanks from existence, General Rogard hadn’t even considered using “The Bomb” and using it now, takes the fight to a very different, scarier level. Great writing says alot while saying very little and is why this film remains a masterpiece.
The bomb would destroyed everything he's a gen why? would consider that as a good tactical advantage it just showed how dumb the other guy was when he said " you want to bomb our selfs.?"
@@shengrant3088 The actual strategy was to try to lure the Giant into the ocean and bomb it there. But it's a perfectly reasonable threshold, given that that thing can vaporize battleships like it's nothing and no other weapon at that time period could damage it. To sacrifice one town of people in exchange for the big metal monster to not destroy the entire world is a reasonable tradeoff.
Well, when a military refuses to use something against a house-sized titan who can destroy some of the best tanks of the USA and takes battleship proyectiles like nothing, then whatever the thing they refuse to use must be something pretty powerful PD: sorry if my english is not good, it's not my native lenguage
@@shengrant3088 Oh I don't disagree. But the fallout from a tactical nuclear strike isn't actually that bad considering. It'd definitely irradiate a large section of ocean. But in terms of area, because they are ground detonated, the fallout isn't nearly as bad as it otherwise could be. Airburst "dirty" bombs are far nastier on that end of things.
This film came out the same time a lot of other emotionally heavily animated films did like Treasure Planet, Titan AE, Atlantis, this was honestly one of the golden ages of animated filmography
Back when they knew how to make stuff and everything wasn't ruled by Disney and Marvel who only set little goals on making money and looking good to a certain demographic of the public
That kid has some serious heart to be able to formulate even a single sentence while having a 100 foot tall giant mech in full battle mode pointing a cannon at his face.
@@jessetorres8738 That kid has some serious heart to be able to formulate even a single sentence while having a 50 feet/15 meters tall giant mech in full battle mode pointing a cannon at his face.
@@Knight_Igris That kid has some serious heart to be able to formulate even a single sentence while having a 50 feet/15 meters tall robot in full battle mode pointing a cannon at his face.
The perceived loss of Hogarth was so powerful that it physically affected the giants “mind.” What an excellent way to show how grief can actually change the brain
I love how even when he’s losing it he’s still doing what Hogarth taught him, he stops himself from touching what he thinks is dead and screams to make people “wig out” and think of him as a monster.
maybe it resonates with you because you could see yourself doing the same as you may believe God is dead within you and if that be the case, your demons want to rail against all sound wisdom...
This has to be one of the coolest weapon designs I had seen in any movie. That burst-fire-disc thing and the ball that deletes the tank out of existence are just amazing to look at.
@David Jones Indeed, some of the things that happened aren't survivable. For example the tank that was thrown into the air right at the start... That is a 40 ton machine that fell however many feet and then crashed against the ground. That's like crashing it at high speed. Not survivable.
+Liz Samaroo Not only that, it was also beat out at the box office (can you freakin believe it) by "The Sixth Sense". Seems they were both released at the same time and most moviegoers flocked to see TSS. I mean it wasn't a bad movie but it definitely ain't no Iron Giant....
I feel like a lot of movies at this time got overlooked by not being Disney, the only one I can think that was Disney Was Atlantis. Others include Anastasia, Prince of Egypt, this and El dorado
"What if a gun could think, and what if it didn't want to be a gun?" The entire premise of Iron Giant. This kids movie was way smarter than it had any right to be. And way more emotional than anyone expected.
It's a film that really explores the idea of "free will" in a very unique way for a children's film. You are what you choose to be regardless of how much influence pushes you in a certain direction. You always have a choice. It just may not be an easy one
I thought it also had a few similarities (a kid friendly version) with Of Mice and Men. Yeah he's friendly, acts childlike, and doesn't mean any harm, just like Lennie. Only instead of a few silly mishaps here and there that just get a slap on the wrist and a stern talking to. Things such as essentially leaving a trail of death in his wake in the form of mass animal homicide, multiple cases of assault as witness George Milton stated "...ALL THE DAMN TIME!...", 3 battery charges THAT WE KNOW OF... In order, there was Ms/Mrs Reddress Fieldruns Inweed, in which he tried to forcefully remove her dress... yeah... maybe another charge there. Then there was the second case likely to be charged as Aggravated Battery as well as attempted murder. The victim, Mr Curly Slimhand, son of the man Lennie was currently employed by I might add, who after being baited into a fight by Lennie, who is known to have had several run ins with him prior to this event and was likely planned at length by Lennie, who after waiting for his chance to get revenge, seized the opportunity and deliberately took advantage of Curly's emotionally compromised state. It was after this point the assailant, Lennie Small (dont let the name fool you he's big in real life), went LEAPS and BOUNDS, FAR beyond his supposed of claims 'self defense', after winning the fight, as well as failing to notice several eye witnesses fortunately for Mr Curly Slippyhand, a fight, that... AS STATED, he had spent so much time planning for, he went on to relentlessly and mercilessly crush Curly's hand until each bone had been completely crushed resulting in severe bleeding as the splintered bones began to pierce through his flesh as well as permanent nerve damage that not even a glove full of Vaseline was able to save. Lennie had to be forcefully removed before he could continue his bloodthirsty quest for vengeance, which required several people directly intervening to do so. That brings us to the 3rd battery charge as well as a murder in the first degree. After witnesses prevented him from slowly, brutally, and painfully murdering Mr Curly Swampglove, he decided he would still have his payback by going after Curly's beloved wife, Mrs Pruneyhand. While initial the initial investigation suggested a case of negligent homicide, in lieu of these previous events as well as reviewing the footage found on the hidden cameramannequin by the director after following a trail of dead animals that lead to the barn from old Rorikstead where the last mutilated remains of a puppy, reduced to a ball of bloody goop and fur the size of a stress ball, was found hidden under some hay which activated a Dwemer dramatic camera pan revealing the body of Mrs Soggyhand, it is safe to say that the murder of Mrs Picklehand was premeditated. He began by attempting to rip chunks of her scalp off of her skull by pulling her hair at which point she was heard saying "dont mess it up" she then began to scream in fear for her life when he was able to grab ahold a single strand of Maybelline reinforced hair yanking her towards him while simultaneously yelling in a commanding voice "GET OVER HERE". After grabbing her head and lifter her off the ground he used the physx engine to ragdoll flail and 'rubberband' her body when suddenly time on the footage seemed to slow as an xray view depicted her neck splintering at which point an otherworldly voice could be heard saying "FATALITY!" He then continued to stand in a fighting stance facing right side of the screen threw a few kicks at the air before awkwardly walking backwards still in a fighting stance for a few steps, then backflipping back towards the barn door. After an extensive manhunt and after changing his first name from George to Agent a courier approached Agent Milton and said "let courier six take the package" Almost as if the Mojave would sort him out or something after refusing to surrender the platinum chip to Captain Del Rio he discovered it was foil wrapped chocolate that had a slip of paper stuck in it and as fortune would have it he learned that Lennie had changed his name to Edgar Ross and was fishing by the river. He approached Lennie (Edgar pfft) and is on record as having said "I'm your huckleberry" at which point Lennie went to draw his 4 paw colt rabbit from his top hat but Arthur Morgan came out of the bushes screaming "WHERE ARE YOU LENNY, YOU'RE NOT LENNY" then made a campfire and cooked some thyme big game. Arthur, a long time friend of George used his dead eye on Lennie upon remembering that Lennie was not Lenny. Mr Morgan said "you're alright boa" to George Milten and slowly the silhouette of him and his horse disappeared over the horizon in search of Lenny but more importantly Redemption amiiiiiiid amid the crash of the wooooooooorld. But the Iron Giant Unlike Lenny or Lennie on the other hand could wipe out all of humanity at any moment when his combat mode kicks in and goes all metal gun hulk on kids with super soakers. Also Officer Tenpenny only gave George
It’s not he didn’t want to be a gun, his memory got wiped when he crash landed, and Hogarth replaces it with a new path for him and the power of choice.
Love it when mansley gets the missile launched and it's targeted to the giants location of which is right in front of them. And general Rogard says " that missile is targeted for the giants current position wheres the giant mansley. Mansley then shits himself and goes " oh we can duck and cover there's a fallout shelter right there. Rogards response is the best of his quotes. "There's no way to survive this you idiot" always makes me crease.
I like the way they portrayed the Military in this movie. The general was calm and collected and doesn't use unnecessary force, the only reason he attacked the giant is because Manley kept misinforming him on the giant's intentions in order to get a promotion. When he heard the giant "killed a kid" he decided that it was a public danger and acted accordingly. Its important to remember that the only time he actually saw the giant was when it was looming over the town, he never saw it holding hogarth or any of the kind things that we saw it do. You can even see him mourn the sacrifice of the robot after the nuke when he takes off his helmet. Also sending Hogarth the screw was honestly such a heart warming gesture .
You said it Leo. More often than not the military is treated as soulless drones whos sole purpose is to follow orders and fight. Unfortunately, this has some basis in reality: the harshness of the tasks and the strain of killing the enemy or putting your people in danger force most military officers, no matter their rank, to compartmentalize their emotions in order to avoid shattering under the pressure. The General's portrayal in this movie is a breath of fresh air, to be honest. Dangerous or not, the military exists for a reason. I believe a quote from Thor: Ragnarok said it best: "Never seek out war, but _always_ be ready for it."
I just noticed that despite the Giant going ballistic, he only attacks the military assets (tanks, general, warships etc.), he doesn’t harm (at least on screen) any civilians in the town unless you count his brief threat to Hogarth and the small amount of shots that managed to hit the buildings. He may have become a super weapon in this scene, but he wasn’t mindless, he only targeted the things he saw as a actual threat
@@saulhinojoza2457 He lost his temper after thinking himself and the military killed Hogarth, of course he’s going to miss a few times like an angry soldier just throwing the barrel around after watching his best friend die in his arms
Notice that the military were evacuating civilians. They were probably doing so before the giant even fired on them due to the proximity of the city. The rest of the civs would definitely hide or run from something like that as it's the 50s, so recording isn't happening. Maybe a few would watch I supposes.
He went back to his prime directive: the extermination of humanity. That was his original purpose. He was only attacking military assets, yes, but when exterminating an entire race, you hit the ones capable of resisting you first. While nowhere near the giants technological sophistication, the military is the closest thing able to stop, or at least hamper your mission, thus it takes priority. if the person that ran up to him when he changed back was anyone other than hogarth, he'd have killed him out of convenience. That cannon wouldn't have deactivated and the person would have been turned to glass
To be fair the after effects of radiation at this time were really underestimated. The fallout is the worst part, by miles. Sure you kill many, but the survivors within the fallout line are absolutely and completely SOL.
You're forgetting that that wasn't Mansley's plan. He intended to get the Giant a safe distance away before having them launch the nuke. Of course, he's still an idiot, but not as insane as General Rogard first thought when he suggested the bomb.
@@Zalgo-hr6qc That’s a good point, in 1957 when the story is set, many people were still understandably ignorant of the full effects of radiation and didn’t know any better because the concept was still fairly new to so many people (the atomic obliteration of Hiroshima and Nagasaki had only happened 17 years earlier) and back then they didn’t have the easy access to high-speed digital information that so many people take for granted today that easily catalogs and archives information for us so efficiently at an almost seamless rate. So information for them (not to mention the time it takes to digest, contemplate and comprehend said information) moved nowhere near as fast as it does now, due the 50’s understandable limitations of mass communication technology of the decade like radio, film and even television which was still in its infancy at the time.
@@Icelandic_Sand here's my take: The creator of the iron giants wants his giant back, so a full out alien invasion occurs. only hogarth and the reassembled giant can stop the invasion. When that doesn't work, the giant and hogarth travel to meet with the creator to convince him of the value of life.
@@AndreNitroX Idk, in my book this masterpiece of a film doesn't need a sequel, it stands perfectly well on it's own, and I personally believe a sequel would just bog it down, but that's just my opinion.
@Dee_Nice89 Mansley was the fault of that though, as Dean did warn Mansley that the Giant only reacts to Weapons, but Mansley twisted the story to the General as soon as Dean took off after them claiming "He said the monster's killed the kid!". Surely the General would've listened if Dean told him directly.
I find it funny how Vin Diesel is mostly famous for playing live-action tough-guy action heroes, but probably his most impactful roles are voicing few simple words spoken by huge brutish simple-minded extra-terrestrials of iron or wood who grow hearts over the course of their respective movies, ultimately sacrificing themselves for their new-found friends. Vin Diesel growls out a few words that bring the toughest of guys to tears: "I go. You stay. No Following." "We Are Groot."
He went into rage mode out of emotion instead of defense because his eyes turned red without a target or the sight of a gun. Just goes to show how much he cared for hogarth
If you thought this was impressive, just watch one of the new Rebuild Evangelion movies, or Neon Genesis Evangelion TV episodes. When those living robots called Evangelions go into berzerk mode, they become so INSANELY powerful. It's like when you use ALL the cheats for a game, simultaneously. They easily would mop the floor with the robot from Iron Giant.
Well, we don't really know how the Giant would react when faced with a REAL threat, like life-or-death, do we? He could become more powerful than anything we've seen.
I guess you could say the missile heading toward the town was a life-or-death situation but the Giant had already associated his weapons with being bad and liked the idea of Superman. So who knows what he would have done if Hogarth hadn't trained him to suppress his weapons. According to a deleted scene, it's suggested that the Giant's weapons have the capacity to wipe out the entire solar system.
No, he reverted to his original programming (the bump on his head straightened out). Iron Giant _is_ a weapon. An immensely powerful weapon, possibly sent here to destroy us. Something went wrong, however. Something during the transit, the atmospheric entry or the impact which made him "forget" what or who he is. Hogarth essentially teaches him that he can be humane and doesn't have to be a weapon, which he remembers in this scene.
Bezo Bezovic Not necessarily, because the Giant has a “civilian” mode where he’s not kitted out to the nines with guns, it’s something he transforms into. If the race that built him wanted a pure weapon, they would have just built him with the guns showing regularly right?. I think he’s like a probe that can observe a culture and assess its intentions and development. If he’s targeted by weapons, he reacts with violence. Because of the bump on his head, we can only guess at his purpose, but it wasn’t purely benign. The chest gun is way beyond a “conventional” response to meeting equivalent force, unless there are Very Big Problems out there. The mystery is what makes the movie good. Your VonNeuman idea is interesting, thanks for sharing.
For anyone who still cares, an added scene in the Signature Edition contains a dream/flashback that explains his origins. The Iron Giant is indeed a war machine. In the dream, it shows an army of them attacking cities on his home world, eventually destroying the entire planet. That's how he was flung into space and reached Earth, his planet exploded. In a way, it makes it more touching, in that he chose to not be what he was designed for. He wanted to be good, not just a gun.
@@conorgleeson2453 Hands help it do some things. as we saw it needs to eat metal for some reason, the hands probably allow for that. Also having all of those weapons activated probably uses a ton of energy, so if it didn't need the guns at the time it's probably something like an armored power saver mode.
Weapons like the Iron Giant are probably built to attract a planet's military and cause havoc on the best weapons they're forced to muster against the overwhelming threat. If it's destroyed, then the host will probably figure that the planet requires more for a successful invasion and the second wave might bring something like a Steel Behemoth, or maybe half a dozen of 'em.
This movie has such great attention to detail. I especially love how the privates and corporals are scared shitless while Rogard keeps his calm completely. Dude definitely saw combat in WW2 and the Korean War.
3:45 I like his gasps after he's fully back to normal, like he's scared of himself and what he's been doing. Anyone who's really lost control of themselves in a bad way can relate.
Notice that after his initial howl of rage, he doesn’t display any further emotion. He reverts back to the mindless killing machine he was created to be.
One of the main things I find cool about his transformation is how his voice completely changes when he screams in anger, normally he’s pretty slow spoken and gentle, but then he suddenly lets out this extremely human like scream out of nowhere.
That scream. That bloodcurdling scream. You can feel both the rage and sadness of someone who has lost something dear to them. Vin Diesel did an amazing job.
I find the “think your friend is dead when they’re actually still alive” cliche overdone, but here it works really well. The Giant just learned what death is yesterday so he’s not going to know to check for a pulse or make sure Hogarth’s still breathing. The only thing he knows is the deer was limp and now Hogarth is, so naturally he’s going to draw that conclusion. This movie is the king of heart.
Exactly. He just learned how to grasp the concept of death and now the only friend he's ever known is, to him, lying dead on the floor. Dude was totally broken and no doubt blaming himself.
and the fact that it looked like iron giant was dead but wasn't due to his rebuilding nature was a twist that was supporting the not dead cliché, but it actually worked pretty well here, as it made more sense than most scenarios of this in movies. And let's be honest, we all love Iron Giant, we all loved seeing him staying alive and smiling at the end!😊
This movie did a great job fleshing out Dean's character. He genuinely cares about Hogarth throughout the film. With a lot of kids films, the adult and the kid always butt heads and hate each other in the beginning and then slowly begin to respect and care about each other as the film goes on. But here Dean is likeable and relatable as soon as he's introduced. And the fact that his relationship with Hogarth's Mom is SECONDARY and not the main reason why he's in the film makes his character a breath of fresh air compared to a lot of films.
It helps a lot that Dean is very much part of the beatnik community, an outcasted group undermined for their lack of conformity to societal norms (the very norms Mansley represents). He [Dean] sees a lot of himself in Hogarth, who was moved up a grade for being far smarter than his age would suggest. It doesn't faze him that the kid is a bit of an oddball, even taking into account his relationship with a 50-foot-tall alien war machine. To him, the world could use more unconventional types rather than the inflexible, married-to-the-rules types that leave no room for personal autonomy or outside-the-box thinking (concepts that allow the Giant to break free from his programming).
I just realized, at 1:15, the general fired his pistol at the laser arms from it's back, and actually hit it twice, while in a moving car, being shot at, on rough terrain, with someone yelling in his ear. He was genuinely a badass.
Not to mention he’s pragmatic enough to hear Dean out when the Giant returns. Hell if Mansley hadn’t launched that nuke, the Giant and the general probably would have talked out what the Giant was.
Something I only just noticed is that there's actually a lot of realism in the Giant's weapons. The three lasers coming out of his back for instance: You'll notice that right before they fire, they cast what looks like a beam of blue light. It could be that their creating an ionized path for the energy based projectiles to follow. Something similar could be happening with the little disc... thing he uses. Perhaps the ports on the sides of the disc are outputting a high pressurized mix of gas and ions, and the arms are igniting them in rapid bursts. Technologically speaking, this movie might be way more ahead of its time than we thought.
I have the toy of this version of the Giant. His leg "Lights" are called "Phonton"-Somethings. I'm not sure if it's related to anything remotely close to ionization, but it's good to see someone who knows their stuff, scientifically or science-fictionally speaking. But to the movie's credit, it was based on mid-1900's sci-fi movies. It could be possible that some of the Giant's offensive weaponry could be a direct inspiration from "War of the worlds" in 1953. In that movie, the Martian beams are said to "Nullify Matter" by cancelling out the electrical bond between atoms. This could be that.
@@nickthepick8043 Well, I can't say for certain, but the idea of a "photon converger" does exist. Its the principle that photons are super fast and super light weight particles that - if you could gather enough together - could be used to make a super high velocity projectile based on the power of light. Depending on the energy output of such a device, it would theoretically have similar kickback to that of a railgun though, so it makes a bit of sense that they would be in the giant's legs where they would have the most stability. It would also certainly make sense to utilize sci-fi ideas of the time like you said. War of the Worlds has been reimagined plenty of times and is often regarded as some of the first of the sci-fi genre.
I still shudder seeing The Giant's full arsenal in action. - His ability to reassemble from injury or damage. - His Right hand Cannon great for Anti-Light Cavalry and Heavy Infantry - His Left arm Disintigrator great for Anti-Heavy Cavalry and Anti-Defense - His Right Fore-arm (I call it a) Pokey Gun great for Anti-Infantry - Those Serpentine Blasters I can only assume are a combination of Anti-Air, Anti-Artillery, and Anti Armor and Infantry. & - HIS CORE Sphere Blaster. Which doesn't seem like an anti-anything other than anti-that direction. I mean it made a blast sphere the size of a city... so to me it looks like a if he see's an enemy coming from "that way" he uses this to just... delete "that way" Dude's a One-Man Invasion... and yet the species or entity that enlists them is shown (in a cut scene from the movie) That they would send a Legion to conquer and/or devestate a planet.
I respect how the film contains anti-violence themes, but does not demonize the military. General Rogard is a rational, disciplined man; the civilian Mansley is power-hungry, impulsive, and cruel.
That's usually how government's work. The so-called "Boots on the ground" have no desire to kill, maim etc. but the meatball politicians in charge, out of harms way and others of similar ilk are all to eager for bloodshed.
Fun Fact: There's a deleted scene where the giant has a dream. The dream was supposed to hint at the giant's origins but it was cut. From what I could tell, the giant is an alien weapon sent to earth to cripple the world powers so the aliens can take control, but the dent in his head gave him amnesia and he reverted back to a program that causes him to absorb and retain information like a child.
1:14 Woah that General isn't just firing at it blindly. He is actually trying to take out one of those snake thingies...with his pistol. Talk about bad ass.
Well sadly guns dont have souls and dont get to choose what they're used for. Could be shooting targets in a shooting range, animals, or Jihads in a pointless war. That gun ain't gonna fire itself
True. Nautilus did not have nuclear weapons. It's anachronistic for there to be an SSBN, as the very first, USS George Washington, wasn't in service until about 1960, and this film is in late 1957. It's not a big deal for me though, as it's fiction and one of the best films I've ever seen
Actually it might not be that Nautilus If you watch closely in the part when the "Battleships" are firing You can see a Sumner DD with FRAM I modernization (That program wasn't started on this class till 1959 and this is set two years prior) and just behind it is an actual BB But the hull number on it reads "51" USS Montana (BB-51) of the South Dakota class was never finished So in this Alternate Universe, not only was she completed, but she also most likely served in WWII and was modernized after it
I think he was trying to take out the laser guns from the giant's back. But it's not like a small gun like that would take down something that big but ya gotta respect his effort.
@@RandomPamtriFella you gotta respect a man who never stops trying. And it’s been a minute since I’ve seen that scene but I’m pretty sure when they are in the car running front the giant the general was firing at the giants joints. Like shoulder blades and stuff. Aka trying to find weak points instead of just firing blindingly. But still he’s a boss for never stoping.
At 0:25 I freaking LOVE the way the giant shudders. That primal feeling of pure rage just begging to be released, and finally he lets it out. It’s a very human and therefore relatable moment, perfectly captured in the animation.
For me what does it is right after he pulls out his 1st weapon you can see his head slowly glancing down as if he was aiming at something specifically down the sites with anger and intent on getting even Because in the giant's mind all he had was Hogarth and they just took it all away from him Because he saw Hogarth as the peak of humanity cut down by a gun And in his moment of rage all he saw was guns all around him probably looking Inside his own programming seeing that he himself is more of a gun than he realized but he didn't have to be we realized that later that he didn't have to be but in this particular moment he didn't know that
@@wellthen.......9384 Yes indeed. His primal instinct after witnessing Hogart visible demise from the shot of a gun is to become a gun himself. Ironic when you think about it.
To this day, I still get chills when I see the raw levels of emotion that the giant shows whenever he thinks that Hogarth is dead. Everything from his hands trembling to the heartbreaking whimpers really demonstrate just how far the character has come since the beginning of the movie. His first few scenes have his body moving in a much more robotic and stiff way and this scene shows beautifully just how human the giant has become. This movie has always remained one of my all times favorite pieces of cinema, let alone animated films. There’s a reason that this film has a cult following and I am so happy when I see new people getting introduced to it.
I feel ashamed that I was only able to watch the end part of the movie twice when I was young, then watched it fully yesterday after remembering about it. I watched it in a pirated website since I was absolutely desperate to rewatch it, it was beautiful yet saddening but I hate that I wasn't able to cry in the movie since I wasn't attached to it when I was young. 😞
I adore this film. I find firearms fascinating and even cool, but the overall message about the film and being anti-war resonates with me on a pretty deep level. "We are who we choose to be."
@Repent-and-believe-in-Jesus1keep your illogical and irrelevant bull shit out of threads like this, this adds NOTHING to the discussion, besides, religion is clearly designed to appeal to morons, of which you clearly qualify. ‘God’ does not exist, it’s a man made fiction to sucker morons and control the easily manipulated.
@@cpob2013yeah i read and researched about that also , WB failed to market and advertise the Iron Giant movie properly before it's eventual release in movie theaters , hence the so-called "Box Office Bomb" failure that followed suit
0:12 That signs of pain, trying to find an answer and finally falling into pain and anger, without telling a word, is the most painful part of the movie for me.
This scene is the most powerful and emotive depiction of the transition to pure furious rage I've ever seen. It's Sci-fi, but every man knows what it feels like to get pushed to that point beyond reason where suddenly you see red and switch into battle mode.
The giant's exposed spine just took a direct hit from 406mm AP shells at near point blank range (For a ship's cannon at least). You can't get any more badass than that
Something I always thought about was how weird the bump on his head actually is. But I think the idea is that his bump is more symbolism than science. When he falls to earth and gets the bump, it’s literally just him losing his memory and main function due to blunt force trauma, sure, but when he goes berserk, the bump fixing itself is a way to show he’s resigned to reverting himself back to a gun. Which is even more powerful when Hogarth helps him calm down - the bump doesn’t reform, his head is still fine, he’s just at the point where he’s learned to suppress that function without forgetting it entirely.
One of the most powerful scenes in the history of film Because he thought they killed Hogarth, The Iron Giant went from "I am not a GUN" to "Due to your ignorance I will now become a gun the likes of which the Earth has never seen"
Guns are just tools. Iron giant is a machine made for destruction but those abilities also give him the strength to save the earth from nuclear holocaust.
@@Eradicator-jv9xrwhoever he's creator is has sinister intentions for Earth obviously but why because the creator fears humanity becoming a future threat or is there something important on the planet that's alien?
@@Elitesolider1023 pretty sure it was not mentioned. But it's a kids movie so it's best to just assumed the aliens wanted to invade simply for the natural resources
Something I noticed just now rewatching this, notice the group's reaction to Annie saying that Hogarth is down with the giant "No! No stop! My son is out there!" 3:12 Everyone in the scene reacts with shock and horror, looking out towards the Giant. Everyone... except Mansley, who looks out with anger, as if to say "That damned boy is in my way again." Really says a lot about his character.
It says even more when, after claiming everything he was doing was in defence of his Country and ordering the missile launch (against the General's orders) and realising he had effectively targeted himself as well, he tried to run away shouting "Sc**w our country! I wanna live!"
Jampolo And he probably got arrested and sentenced to prison for lying to the army and government and nearly almost killed everyone because of his selfishness, stubbornness and pride.
What makes this scene so impactful for me is that the Giant thought he failed in protecting Hogarth, and he thought the military was the cause for it. The Giant wasn't just going ballistic, he was seeking vengeance against the ones who he believed killed his only friend.
0:27 This battle sequence is the moment that sold me on this movie. The Giant getting angry enough from Hogarth seemingly being killed and still getting attacked to cause the bump on his head that made him forget his original purpose to heal itself, revealing that the less harmful, child-like state he was in for most of the movie was a malfunction, and then using the guns he was built with to defend himself before being brought back down to earth by Hogarth. It validates both positions to take on the Giant in the movie, that Kent was right in him being a threat to national security, and that Hogarth was right in that he has some form of ethos worth preserving, but at the end of the day it's a giant alien robot with free will. Hogarth keeps denying it and trying to make him into a wholly good person who can assimilate into society (as a kid like him sees it) by idolizing "good" in Superman and demonizing "evil" in Atomo, and reducing his purpose to buzzwords like "guns kill" and "you are not a gun, you are good", something he becomes more convinced of throughout the movie as he teaches the Giant more about life and death. Kent keeps denying it by speculating where it came from and who made it (as the government wants to pacify it and keep him to research his origins and potentially affect the Cold War) or the potential destruction it could cause as he now knows that a giant killer robot is feasible, which he becomes more convinced of throughout the movie as keeps seeing evidence of its existence that he can't prove yet without being met with ridicule, like all of the metal structures getting bitten and Hogarth's extreme protection of the Giant. However, while he has both good and evil qualities, they both want him to stay, but because of what he is he inevitably can't. Even when under the influence of others, he has free will, he's effectively invincible, and will act in his own interests alien to those of humans, which can bring both good and bad things to them. The Iron Giant isn't a movie about friendship or politics or humanity, it's about innocence, and that's why it's a good movie.
An excellent point. From a realistic perspective, this one scene gives every ounce of veracity the General and Mansly ever needed for their arguments about this entity. It _is_ a weapon, and one they cannot hope to stop as the end of the movie showed. Yet because the movie deals in innocence, the Giant isn’t the scary monster he most certainly is meant to be. By sheer chance, he’s given the opportunity to become something different. Perhaps even something _good._ It’s a fantastic, frank look at our world through the lens of sci-fi alien robots. I love it so much.
@@OneBiasedOpinion but at least **ONE** of them had enough common sense to unnecessary launch an atomic bomb and endangering civilians. That missile is targeted at the giant's current position!! Where's the giant, Mansley!?!?
@@warrioroflight6872 The only thing they're really aware of is some guy from homeland security says there was a giant robot and after they thought it was just a prop it turned out to be real.
0:09 He flips him over like a bug he doesn't want to hurt, and the following "I don't know what to do" gesture is heartbreaking. They conveyed so much with visual storytelling.
His gestures are so childlike before he buries his head in his hands Like "I didn't want this" "what can I do?" "He's so small he didn't deserve this" it's pure helplessness he has no one else to turn to😢 and he even wants to touch him again maybe even pick him up but he's remembering Hogarth's words to not man-handle a dead thing just like with the deer so he is actually listened and learned from Hogarth and accidentally thinks he's death Powerful visual story telling
One thing I really like about the portrayal of the military - and the General in particular - is that they are NOT IDIOTS. They may have been fooled and taken in temporarily by Manley's paranoia. But all the soldiers are operating from reasonable doctrine given the information they have and what they've been trained for. Which means, unfortunately, that except for Hogarth talking the Giant down, they would have been SCREWED. But it wouldn't be from being outright dumb themselves. No - the only person holding the idiot ball in this film is Manley.
That is a nice observation, one that I feel gets overlooked in this underrated film. And you know what having the military being portrayed as competent (though outgunned..) did nothing to subtract from the film, in fact it only made it all the better in my opinion! I guess MY point is maybe more film makers should give this approach a try, having competent good, neutral or bad guys (or whomever is the military guys in a story) can open up some intresting possibilities.
I like how Manley, after triggering the nuclear attack, attempts to flee the scene and the General apprehends him, sarcastically telling him to stay like a good soldier. If they are all going to die, the idiot responsible should die with them!
No one else has said it so I will. There’s an interesting comparison of Hogarth and the dead deer earlier in the film. Giant’s instinct is to touch the deer when he sees its lifeless body, and Hogarth says “Don’t do that!” Telling the Giant to respect the dead body. Giants confusion with death is sorted with the idea that souls don’t die. But it makes his grief at the beginning of this scene so raw. Because he’s met with his instinct again to pick up Hogarth who he thinks is dead. And he stops himself and you can read in him the helplessness he feels in that moment. He even reaches out to Hogarth a second time before burying his face in his hands. Confronted with death again, and confronted by the lesson he learned, he crumbles under the emotional weight, and he loses control. A super small detail that goes a long way. Fuckin love it.
@@joyboy6134 Normally cartoons tend to portray generals as crazy, loud, belligerent authority figures, but this movies does this professionally. The general is a strategic man who only orders his men to fire due to the risk of civilian casualties. And he orders his men to stand down once Hogarth is still alive. Best part about this movie is when the missile explodes, you can briefly see the general saluting.
3:36 I love Hogarth wincing when he says "Choose," clearly thinking "I hope this actually works." And yet it doesn't detract from how touching the whole scene is.
To the untrained eye most viewers will not notice how the background goes from a somber white to a seething orange/red as the Iron giant goes mad. And continually shifts as his anger becomes more apparent.
The eyes going wide and the seamless movements of attack. Thats pure rage. Someone who loses all emotion is a heck of a lot scarier than someone being overly emotional. This movie taught me an important lesson: No matter how upset you are, you can ALWAYS calm down. Even if you are a nuclear powered sentient robot from outer space
when he said battleships from here at 2:50 it is a baltimore-class heavy cruiser he could have said all cruisers fire at the robot. NOW! NOW DAMN IT NOW!
Pretty cool line given the context. For the military personel to witness an alien machine capable of rendering most of the units into molecular particulates or scrap. It's a desperate move for them to resort to the strongest form of conventional weaponry they have. Even then, the stakes became higher when they decided to escalate to small-scale nuclear bombardment. Also, I like that the battleships design resembles a modernized mix between the North Carolina and Iowa classes of battleships
This movie is over twenty years old and it’s STILL amazing. The animation is just gorgeous to look at, the story telling is perfection. And I still cry at the end when he sacrifices himself. It’s by far my favorite movie I’ve ever seen.
I love how at the ending of the movie, The Giant essentially puts itself back together which brings up the horrifying aspect that not even a Nuclear Explosion can destroy this thing which means if Hogarth didn't calm it back down, the Giant literally would have vaporized the entire planet Taking heavy inspiration from War of the World's where the EMP shielding was so futuristic and indestructible that even when they started dropping Nukes on top of it they just bounced right off.
A direct hit from a nuke is needed to merely incapacitate the robot. But it could still be contained if the parts are kept separated. Now imagine how doomed the world would be if an entire army of such robots arrived...
Interesting angle, I'd never considered that. I always thought of the "giant rebuilding itself" as being for the purpose of the movie having a happy ending, but this gives it far more ominous ramifications. Which means Hogarth truly saved the world when he thought he was just saving his friend.
1:25 the blank expression of the soldier coupled with General Rogard yelling into the radio for an artillery strike is probably one of my favorite moments in this scene.
He was probably among the few soldiers that hadn't seen the Giant yet, and now that he is seeing it, he's so shocked that he can't express words. Let's be honest if anyone saw something like the Giant in real life we'd probably have the same expression.
I still get goosebumps. I’m o e if those peeps who get very emotional charged by scenes sounds and music. I can actually feel the Iron Giant’s rage when he screams out.
Can we just acknowledge the fact that the general went full on Patton and started shooting at the giant with a pistol after watching tank rounds bouncing off it. Edit: dam a hell of alot of likes but at the same time the replys are somewhat scary.
@@botyaltotertutal468 He was hit by a SLBM Nuclear Warhead, which is comparable to the Titan-II Warhead, which would yield 9 megatons. I don't think that in proportion Castle Bravo 6 more megatons would make such a difference.
2:58 The silence before seeing the sheer damage the Giant can really do, followed by Mansley just looking at the general over a nuclear option gives me chills to this day.
1:10 I never noticed this before, but General Rogard is shooting at the giant with his handgun, despite things like tank cannons clearly having no effect against it. Dude has balls of steel
John Smith actually he was a part of a war with an army of giant Giants. the war destroyed their own Planet he was a Survivor and crashed on Earth after I blew up. him getting so angry remove the bump and Jogged his memory of what he was.
Lucky LeftEye there was a deleted scene that was in storyboard form as a special feature. they completed it and few other and added them to the signature edition for the 15th anniversary of the film.
Ok so first of all, notice how organic and human-like the Giant’s mannerisms are when he sees Hogarth’s seemingly dead body in comparison to how static and robotically he moved when Hogarth found him at the power plant. Secondly, that scream at 0:26 is chilling. You can feel the Giant’s sorrow and anger. He’s mad at himself for letting his friend seemingly die, he’s angry at these people who are shooting at him. He’s furious at them for shooting his feet and making and Hogarth fall, for causing him to drop his friend. He doesn’t go ballistic just because he’s being fired at. This time he enters his “kill mode” due to the sheer fury and pain he’s feeling. What a movie
I think it works based on friction as in the disc spins very fast and the claw things poke and scratch against it creating sparks. Yeah... That is pretty cool.
Jeff Daniels that was only because of Disney's Tarzan was also playing in the theaters that year. I believe the Iron Giant is the better movie then Tarzan.
Can we appreciate the giant just attacking only the military instead of the innocent folks in town? At least he has a specific enemy type and won't harm anything unless it's armed.
The giant was fully in control of his weaponry at this point; he didn't revert to his original programming. He just went berserk out of sheer uncontrolled anger.
You know it's amazing how this movie has the same message as Lilo and Stitch. Just because a being is programmed and built for a seemingly singular purpose does not mean that they cannot develop a purpose of their own to choose to be what they are or to choose what they could be.
Silent Soul Ken SSK A shame that if something is literally programmed for something, it won't change since it literally cannot unless it is programmed with the ability to change.
Originally... if you looked at some of the deleted scenes of this movie. The iron giant was sent from another planet to destroy or conquer it. But somehow the reason for the bump on his head that must’ve happened to the iron giant while impacting on earth he became good. And humble. But as soon as his rage returned his bump went away and turned into his normal state the real reason he was sent there in the first place
What makes this scene so much more powerful to me isn't the excessive amount of force the Iron Giant displays. It's the enraged, digitized scream it emits as it transforms. It gives the impression of an implacable war machine driven not by humans or mere directives, but by sheer rage. And that is both awesome and terrifying.
Thing is, it _isn't_ a machine that's doing the screaming. What we are hearing is the grieving, broken howl of a _person,_ a thinking, feeling entity that has just been convinced that, through a combination of their failings and the violence of others, their friend is dead. Not everyone believes it to be possible, but the fact of the matter is that the human body, in particular, the brain, is just an impossibly complex machine. Everything that our brains are capable of can be mechanically replicated, so long as the system is complex enough. It isn't too much of a stretch to realize that, if a machine can think like a human, it can _feel_ like one too. What the Iron Giant is experiencing here is a twisted amalgam of pain, grief, despair and *hatred.* However, the last of these is in fact the result of the American army's, in the words of the immortal Samuel Jackson, "stupid-ass" decision to keep attacking him. His friend is gone, and these _insects_ have the nerve to keep trying to kill them? After everything that happened, including him actively trying to _resist_ his self-defense protocols? The Iron Giant finally classifies them as an enemy...and in doing so, snaps the mental lock. In an instant, he knows what to do. He knows what they _deserve._ In the words of the Ninth Doctor? Exterminate.
I'm 6'2, so I tower above all my friends. One of them outright betrayed me and he's seen what a giant can do to a pipsqueak little twig like him. I'm not even bulky, just tall. But more muscle per bodymass, so I'm bigger, still lol
@@michaelaluna7684 Especially when it was not just a friendship, either. We had a close connection, but he never saw it that way. Now I'm filling that void with the friends who've came through to replace that. Using that salt as seasoning
@@dauntless0711At that point he didn't lose it. He was trying to lure it to open or empty land to destroy it. He didn't lose it until everyone found out the Giant was friendly and no one was trying to destroy it.
@@armorpro573 Movies almost always forgo realism due to lack of research, and most people don't know that there's more than two men inside the average American tank. I myself used to think that tanks only had one driver and one machine gun operator and that all the other functions like reloading of the main cannon were done automatically with machinery. Besides, you can find plenty of cartoons and games where tanks are operated by only one or two guys, so I don't think there's any reason to assume that this movie is any more accurate, especially since it's supposed to be family-friendly and I can point out other things in it that aren't accurately depicted.
The scariest thing is... If the nuke had actually hit the town... Their would be no one to report what had happened and the US government would see it as a Soviet provocation... In other words... *TOTAL ATOMIC ANIHLATION* ...
@@slyseal2091 You can't transmit shit after a nuclear blast. Even after it's over, the fallout would continue to scramble radio frequencies. If the sub has ELF-capability (Extremely Low Frequency), then that might be a way, but that would still be a really slow process, because each morse letter gets stretched over the course of multiple seconds. If there's any encryption on the message, that would drastically lengthen the time to transmit. It takes about 15 minutes for the first wave of ICBMs to hit.
There's plenty of inconsistencies in this film. The SLBM shown wasn't in service yet during the year the movie was created. Additionally, nuclear strikes require either direct authorization from the President or for a submarine to be unable to communicate for some time with command, make the assumption that nuclear weapons have destroyed their country, and launch a retaliatory strike. And NORAD would easily be able to tell where the launch occurred by radar tracking soon after it happened, referencing it with the position of the submarine and other naval forces in the area, and probably conclude that it was a Broken Arrow incident of some kind.
I'm not so sure about that. This is a kid-friendly movie, so I don't think it's a stretch to say that nobody died. More importantly, I didn't know for most of my life that tanks have more than two people in them. I just assumed that it was machinery reloading the cannon and whatnot. I mean, in most games, you can just get in a tank and control all of its functions. I thought that's how they worked in real life. So maybe the movie makers thought the same thing and these tanks are somehow only manned by two soldiers because of movie logic. Therefore, there wasn't anyone in the tank when it got destroyed. The final thing worth mentioning is that the General was willing to stop fighting the Giant when he found out that it was inherently gentle. He's obviously a smart guy, but I'm not sure he would have been so willing to stop attacking if he knew some of his men had died. But I don't know for certain. Maybe you're right that some guys died, but I don't think that it's an inevitable outcome of this scene.
One of my favorite details about this scene is how they use the sky to reflect the Giant's psyche. It starts off grey and relatively peaceful, but it's subtley tainted orange after the Giant tries to pick up Hogarth and mistakenly believes him to be dead. As soon as the military fire on him and the Giant screams in rage, the sky turns blood red. The Giant is done holding back. If they want a gun, he's going to give them a gun. As a side note, the electric disc at 1:20 is still one of the most unique and creative sci-fi weapons I've ever seen. I was fascinated by it as a kid, and I'm still fascinated by it as an adult.
Never noticed that until you pointed it out. Whenever I rewatch this movie I always find something new I’ve never noticed before. It’s incredible how much there is to examine and praise about this film
@@guardsmen6274 it really amazing - i mean, when don't know how sounds some weird alien hi-power weapon. This sounds frightening and funnily enough real. Cheers to the sound engineer.
I always liked how they portrayed “The Bomb”. Even as a kid, not knowing what a nuclear weapon was, the way General Rogard reacts in stunned disbelief, the music drops, the silence after Mansley suggests it, all emphasize the gravity of Mansley’s idea. Even with a giant robot erasing tanks from existence, General Rogard hadn’t even considered using “The Bomb” and using it now, takes the fight to a very different, scarier level. Great writing says alot while saying very little and is why this film remains a masterpiece.
The bomb would destroyed everything he's a gen why? would consider that as a good tactical advantage it just showed how dumb the other guy was when he said " you want to bomb our selfs.?"
@@shengrant3088 The actual strategy was to try to lure the Giant into the ocean and bomb it there. But it's a perfectly reasonable threshold, given that that thing can vaporize battleships like it's nothing and no other weapon at that time period could damage it. To sacrifice one town of people in exchange for the big metal monster to not destroy the entire world is a reasonable tradeoff.
@@HertzyandEunice i agree only problem it was explained in the movie " fallout"
Well, when a military refuses to use something against a house-sized titan who can destroy some of the best tanks of the USA and takes battleship proyectiles like nothing, then whatever the thing they refuse to use must be something pretty powerful
PD: sorry if my english is not good, it's not my native lenguage
@@shengrant3088 Oh I don't disagree. But the fallout from a tactical nuclear strike isn't actually that bad considering. It'd definitely irradiate a large section of ocean. But in terms of area, because they are ground detonated, the fallout isn't nearly as bad as it otherwise could be. Airburst "dirty" bombs are far nastier on that end of things.
This film came out the same time a lot of other emotionally heavily animated films did like Treasure Planet, Titan AE, Atlantis, this was honestly one of the golden ages of animated filmography
Tyler MacRae
YES Good Times
And the Fantom Menace XD
It's a shame 2d movies are no longer made. They don't make animated movies like they used to.
Back when they knew how to make stuff and everything wasn't ruled by Disney and Marvel who only set little goals on making money and looking good to a certain demographic of the public
omg, you're right Tyler I am now having a breakdown nostalgia moment lol :( Goodtimes HBO, etc.
@@aodvisions yes it was..... and because of the way the world is now we will never have another again
That kid has some serious heart to be able to formulate even a single sentence while having a 100 foot tall giant mech in full battle mode pointing a cannon at his face.
The Iron Giant is actually about 50 feet/15 meters tall.
@@jessetorres8738 That kid has some serious heart to be able to formulate even a single sentence while having a 50 feet/15 meters tall giant mech in full battle mode pointing a cannon at his face.
Aren't mechs driven by humans/living beings thought iron giant was a robot
@@Knight_Igris That kid has some serious heart to be able to formulate even a single sentence while having a 50 feet/15 meters tall robot in full battle mode pointing a cannon at his face.
@@Drummerboykhari12 , I love your sense of humour/srs
The perceived loss of Hogarth was so powerful that it physically affected the giants “mind.” What an excellent way to show how grief can actually change the brain
Well he basically stopped resisting his programming and let it take over since he was so furious.
@@mattgerrish908Don't we all, when we get angry. Civilization goes out the window
@@TheTeodorsoldierabvbGot that right. You never think about murdering somebody until they take the life of somebody you love
the fact they wouldn't let him grieve for 5 seconds truly made him snap
I love how even when he’s losing it he’s still doing what Hogarth taught him, he stops himself from touching what he thinks is dead and screams to make people “wig out” and think of him as a monster.
The scream of the iron giant fully giving into his purpose of being a weapon once he thinks hogarth is dead will always send a chill down my spine.
At which part?
I reckon at 0:31 ain’t it mate?
maybe it resonates with you because you could see yourself doing the same as you may believe God is dead within you and if that be the case, your demons want to rail against all sound wisdom...
Same
Vin Diesel was just meant to be the Iron Giant
This has to be one of the coolest weapon designs I had seen in any movie. That burst-fire-disc thing and the ball that deletes the tank out of existence are just amazing to look at.
Word. This scene is what got me into giant mechs as a kid
looks like the cyclonic torpodes in warhammer 40k rare but fuckton damage
I always wondered what the leg cannons did.
@@NiquidFox I want a giant Mecha fight with every mech.
@David Jones Indeed, some of the things that happened aren't survivable. For example the tank that was thrown into the air right at the start... That is a 40 ton machine that fell however many feet and then crashed against the ground. That's like crashing it at high speed. Not survivable.
This movie was robbed of Oscar nominations.
At least it's a beloved classic.
+Liz Samaroo
Not only that, it was also beat out at the box office (can you freakin believe it) by "The Sixth Sense". Seems they were both released at the same time and most moviegoers flocked to see TSS. I mean it wasn't a bad movie but it definitely ain't no Iron Giant....
+Liz Samaroo This movie stands the test of time. It's loved by almost everybody I know. :)
I feel like a lot of movies at this time got overlooked by not being Disney, the only one I can think that was Disney Was Atlantis. Others include Anastasia, Prince of Egypt, this and El dorado
The reason this movie didn't do too well in box office is because it was poorly promoted when it was released so no one really saw it
"What if a gun could think, and what if it didn't want to be a gun?"
The entire premise of Iron Giant. This kids movie was way smarter than it had any right to be. And way more emotional than anyone expected.
It was "What if a gun had a soul?"
“What if a gun had a soul, and chose not to be a gun”
It's a film that really explores the idea of "free will" in a very unique way for a children's film. You are what you choose to be regardless of how much influence pushes you in a certain direction. You always have a choice. It just may not be an easy one
I thought it also had a few similarities (a kid friendly version) with Of Mice and Men. Yeah he's friendly, acts childlike, and doesn't mean any harm, just like Lennie. Only instead of a few silly mishaps here and there that just get a slap on the wrist and a stern talking to. Things such as essentially leaving a trail of death in his wake in the form of mass animal homicide, multiple cases of assault as witness George Milton stated "...ALL THE DAMN TIME!...", 3 battery charges THAT WE KNOW OF... In order, there was Ms/Mrs Reddress Fieldruns Inweed, in which he tried to forcefully remove her dress... yeah... maybe another charge there. Then there was the second case likely to be charged as Aggravated Battery as well as attempted murder. The victim, Mr Curly Slimhand, son of the man Lennie was currently employed by I might add, who after being baited into a fight by Lennie, who is known to have had several run ins with him prior to this event and was likely planned at length by Lennie, who after waiting for his chance to get revenge, seized the opportunity and deliberately took advantage of Curly's emotionally compromised state. It was after this point the assailant, Lennie Small (dont let the name fool you he's big in real life), went LEAPS and BOUNDS, FAR beyond his supposed of claims 'self defense', after winning the fight, as well as failing to notice several eye witnesses fortunately for Mr Curly Slippyhand, a fight, that... AS STATED, he had spent so much time planning for, he went on to relentlessly and mercilessly crush Curly's hand until each bone had been completely crushed resulting in severe bleeding as the splintered bones began to pierce through his flesh as well as permanent nerve damage that not even a glove full of Vaseline was able to save. Lennie had to be forcefully removed before he could continue his bloodthirsty quest for vengeance, which required several people directly intervening to do so. That brings us to the 3rd battery charge as well as a murder in the first degree. After witnesses prevented him from slowly, brutally, and painfully murdering Mr Curly Swampglove, he decided he would still have his payback by going after Curly's beloved wife, Mrs Pruneyhand. While initial the initial investigation suggested a case of negligent homicide, in lieu of these previous events as well as reviewing the footage found on the hidden cameramannequin by the director after following a trail of dead animals that lead to the barn from old Rorikstead where the last mutilated remains of a puppy, reduced to a ball of bloody goop and fur the size of a stress ball, was found hidden under some hay which activated a Dwemer dramatic camera pan revealing the body of Mrs Soggyhand, it is safe to say that the murder of Mrs Picklehand was premeditated. He began by attempting to rip chunks of her scalp off of her skull by pulling her hair at which point she was heard saying "dont mess it up" she then began to scream in fear for her life when he was able to grab ahold a single strand of Maybelline reinforced hair yanking her towards him while simultaneously yelling in a commanding voice "GET OVER HERE". After grabbing her head and lifter her off the ground he used the physx engine to ragdoll flail and 'rubberband' her body when suddenly time on the footage seemed to slow as an xray view depicted her neck splintering at which point an otherworldly voice could be heard saying "FATALITY!" He then continued to stand in a fighting stance facing right side of the screen threw a few kicks at the air before awkwardly walking backwards still in a fighting stance for a few steps, then backflipping back towards the barn door. After an extensive manhunt and after changing his first name from George to Agent a courier approached Agent Milton and said "let courier six take the package" Almost as if the Mojave would sort him out or something after refusing to surrender the platinum chip to Captain Del Rio he discovered it was foil wrapped chocolate that had a slip of paper stuck in it and as fortune would have it he learned that Lennie had changed his name to Edgar Ross and was fishing by the river. He approached Lennie (Edgar pfft) and is on record as having said "I'm your huckleberry" at which point Lennie went to draw his 4 paw colt rabbit from his top hat but Arthur Morgan came out of the bushes screaming "WHERE ARE YOU LENNY, YOU'RE NOT LENNY" then made a campfire and cooked some thyme big game. Arthur, a long time friend of George used his dead eye on Lennie upon remembering that Lennie was not Lenny. Mr Morgan said "you're alright boa" to George Milten and slowly the silhouette of him and his horse disappeared over the horizon in search of Lenny but more importantly Redemption amiiiiiiid amid the crash of the wooooooooorld.
But the Iron Giant Unlike Lenny or Lennie on the other hand could wipe out all of humanity at any moment when his combat mode kicks in and goes all metal gun hulk on kids with super soakers.
Also Officer Tenpenny only gave George
It’s not he didn’t want to be a gun, his memory got wiped when he crash landed, and Hogarth replaces it with a new path for him and the power of choice.
I love how the general is shooting at the giant with his pistol while the agent is losing his shit, really shows the difference in character.
General Rogard spent most of his adult life fighting the Germans, Japanese, and North Koreans. While Mansley was in school.
Lol same, at least we know he got guts
Love it when mansley gets the missile launched and it's targeted to the giants location of which is right in front of them. And general Rogard says " that missile is targeted for the giants current position wheres the giant mansley. Mansley then shits himself and goes " oh we can duck and cover there's a fallout shelter right there. Rogards response is the best of his quotes. "There's no way to survive this you idiot" always makes me crease.
Yes. I love that. He even reloads lol it’s so great. This whole movie is made so good by the little details.
mansley’s freaking tf out while the general loads his m1911 like he’s seen it a million times before and doesn’t want to see it anymore
I like the way they portrayed the Military in this movie. The general was calm and collected and doesn't use unnecessary force, the only reason he attacked the giant is because Manley kept misinforming him on the giant's intentions in order to get a promotion.
When he heard the giant "killed a kid" he decided that it was a public danger and acted accordingly. Its important to remember that the only time he actually saw the giant was when it was looming over the town, he never saw it holding hogarth or any of the kind things that we saw it do.
You can even see him mourn the sacrifice of the robot after the nuke when he takes off his helmet.
Also sending Hogarth the screw was honestly such a heart warming gesture .
You said it Leo.
More often than not the military is treated as soulless drones whos sole purpose is to follow orders and fight. Unfortunately, this has some basis in reality: the harshness of the tasks and the strain of killing the enemy or putting your people in danger force most military officers, no matter their rank, to compartmentalize their emotions in order to avoid shattering under the pressure.
The General's portrayal in this movie is a breath of fresh air, to be honest. Dangerous or not, the military exists for a reason. I believe a quote from Thor: Ragnarok said it best: "Never seek out war, but _always_ be ready for it."
You should be an English teacher.
@@turinmormegil7715 you’re a fucking weirdo
@@joeynyesss1286 that's your best shot?
@@turinmormegil7715 lmao what is your problem ahaha I just made the most innocent comment ever and you’re hostile. Get a life you actual loser.
I just noticed that despite the Giant going ballistic, he only attacks the military assets (tanks, general, warships etc.), he doesn’t harm (at least on screen) any civilians in the town unless you count his brief threat to Hogarth and the small amount of shots that managed to hit the buildings. He may have become a super weapon in this scene, but he wasn’t mindless, he only targeted the things he saw as a actual threat
Uhhh at around 1:15 the left arm clearly throws that green ball at a building, and I'm pretty sure it's not a military building
@@saulhinojoza2457 well it’s not like he has his own mind anymore. Those weapons now take control
@@saulhinojoza2457 He lost his temper after thinking himself and the military killed Hogarth, of course he’s going to miss a few times like an angry soldier just throwing the barrel around after watching his best friend die in his arms
Notice that the military were evacuating civilians. They were probably doing so before the giant even fired on them due to the proximity of the city. The rest of the civs would definitely hide or run from something like that as it's the 50s, so recording isn't happening. Maybe a few would watch I supposes.
He went back to his prime directive: the extermination of humanity. That was his original purpose. He was only attacking military assets, yes, but when exterminating an entire race, you hit the ones capable of resisting you first. While nowhere near the giants technological sophistication, the military is the closest thing able to stop, or at least hamper your mission, thus it takes priority. if the person that ran up to him when he changed back was anyone other than hogarth, he'd have killed him out of convenience. That cannon wouldn't have deactivated and the person would have been turned to glass
"You scare me, Mansley." Absolutely. Man doesn't think detonating a nuke within spitting distance of himself is a bad idea.
Even worse, with thousands of civilians in the blast radius!
To be fair the after effects of radiation at this time were really underestimated. The fallout is the worst part, by miles. Sure you kill many, but the survivors within the fallout line are absolutely and completely SOL.
You're forgetting that that wasn't Mansley's plan. He intended to get the Giant a safe distance away before having them launch the nuke.
Of course, he's still an idiot, but not as insane as General Rogard first thought when he suggested the bomb.
@@Zalgo-hr6qc
That’s a good point, in 1957 when the story is set, many people were still understandably ignorant of the full effects of radiation and didn’t know any better because the concept was still fairly new to so many people (the atomic obliteration of Hiroshima and Nagasaki had only happened 17 years earlier) and back then they didn’t have the easy access to high-speed digital information that so many people take for granted today that easily catalogs and archives information for us so efficiently at an almost seamless rate. So information for them (not to mention the time it takes to digest, contemplate and comprehend said information) moved nowhere near as fast as it does now, due the 50’s understandable limitations of mass communication technology of the decade like radio, film and even television which was still in its infancy at the time.
wtf do you mean? its only a small blast radius
That scream before the transformation is haunting. It sounds almost human like when someone under intense stress finally snaps.
How would you feel if your best friend died right in front of you and then you get start getting attacked by the people who caused it
@@stevenpineda2863
Whoa calm down dude
It's never good when a nice person goes to rage. It's the most terrifying thing.
@@aaromotivestudio3869 shut up idiot never tell someone to calm down
@@aaromotivestudio3869 shut up never tell someone to calm down
Keep in mind, the giant is just one of thousands of his kind and they’re all equally as powerful as him.
Why isn’t there a sequel yet!?
So in numbers....
They can destroy planets!
@@AndreNitroX ok so tell me, what would a sequel to this be about?
@@Icelandic_Sand here's my take: The creator of the iron giants wants his giant back, so a full out alien invasion occurs. only hogarth and the reassembled giant can stop the invasion. When that doesn't work, the giant and hogarth travel to meet with the creator to convince him of the value of life.
@@AndreNitroX Idk, in my book this masterpiece of a film doesn't need a sequel, it stands perfectly well on it's own, and I personally believe a sequel would just bog it down, but that's just my opinion.
His scream of pure rage at 0:31 is awesome, heartbreaking, and terrifying at the same time.
0:30 beggining to the scream
"... chose."
"I am not a gun."
Well Dean warned Mansley and the general that the giant gets defensive when attacked and they chose not to listen
@Dee_Nice89 Mansley was the fault of that though, as Dean did warn Mansley that the Giant only reacts to Weapons, but Mansley twisted the story to the General as soon as Dean took off after them claiming "He said the monster's killed the kid!". Surely the General would've listened if Dean told him directly.
@@SledRider-bf3ih I know, Mansley basically started a war for nothing
Can we just take a moment to respect the voice acting here? The iron giant's noises of sadness are genuinely saddening to hear, and it's so good!
Not to forget his moment was pure rage and then when he returns to his normal self the panic in his voice is great
Thank Fast and Furious and Riddick and xXx actor Vin Diesel
Yup bin family diesel
I find it funny how Vin Diesel is mostly famous for playing live-action tough-guy action heroes, but probably his most impactful roles are voicing few simple words spoken by huge brutish simple-minded extra-terrestrials of iron or wood who grow hearts over the course of their respective movies, ultimately sacrificing themselves for their new-found friends. Vin Diesel growls out a few words that bring the toughest of guys to tears: "I go. You stay. No Following." "We Are Groot."
And then the anger and pure untamed rage
He went into rage mode out of emotion instead of defense because his eyes turned red without a target or the sight of a gun. Just goes to show how much he cared for hogarth
If you thought this was impressive, just watch one of the new Rebuild Evangelion movies, or Neon Genesis Evangelion TV episodes. When those living robots called Evangelions go into berzerk mode, they become so INSANELY powerful. It's like when you use ALL the cheats for a game, simultaneously. They easily would mop the floor with the robot from Iron Giant.
Well, we don't really know how the Giant would react when faced with a REAL threat, like life-or-death, do we? He could become more powerful than anything we've seen.
I guess you could say the missile heading toward the town was a life-or-death situation but the Giant had already associated his weapons with being bad and liked the idea of Superman. So who knows what he would have done if Hogarth hadn't trained him to suppress his weapons.
According to a deleted scene, it's suggested that the Giant's weapons have the capacity to wipe out the entire solar system.
No, he reverted to his original programming (the bump on his head straightened out). Iron Giant _is_ a weapon. An immensely powerful weapon, possibly sent here to destroy us. Something went wrong, however. Something during the transit, the atmospheric entry or the impact which made him "forget" what or who he is. Hogarth essentially teaches him that he can be humane and doesn't have to be a weapon, which he remembers in this scene.
jackrios4040 the biggest question i have is how does rage cause a bump on its head disappear
That moment when you realize the big goofy tin man you just shot in the back and pissed off is actually a planetary siege weapon.
Bezo Bezovic Not necessarily, because the Giant has a “civilian” mode where he’s not kitted out to the nines with guns, it’s something he transforms into. If the race that built him wanted a pure weapon, they would have just built him with the guns showing regularly right?. I think he’s like a probe that can observe a culture and assess its intentions and development. If he’s targeted by weapons, he reacts with violence. Because of the bump on his head, we can only guess at his purpose, but it wasn’t purely benign. The chest gun is way beyond a “conventional” response to meeting equivalent force, unless there are Very Big Problems out there. The mystery is what makes the movie good. Your VonNeuman idea is interesting, thanks for sharing.
For anyone who still cares, an added scene in the Signature Edition contains a dream/flashback that explains his origins. The Iron Giant is indeed a war machine. In the dream, it shows an army of them attacking cities on his home world, eventually destroying the entire planet. That's how he was flung into space and reached Earth, his planet exploded. In a way, it makes it more touching, in that he chose to not be what he was designed for. He wanted to be good, not just a gun.
@@conorgleeson2453 Hands help it do some things. as we saw it needs to eat metal for some reason, the hands probably allow for that. Also having all of those weapons activated probably uses a ton of energy, so if it didn't need the guns at the time it's probably something like an armored power saver mode.
Weapons like the Iron Giant are probably built to attract a planet's military and cause havoc on the best weapons they're forced to muster against the overwhelming threat. If it's destroyed, then the host will probably figure that the planet requires more for a successful invasion and the second wave might bring something like a Steel Behemoth, or maybe half a dozen of 'em.
@Ayden paragraphs are good for presenting information. Makes it easier to read and understand.
This movie has such great attention to detail. I especially love how the privates and corporals are scared shitless while Rogard keeps his calm completely. Dude definitely saw combat in WW2 and the Korean War.
This movie did an amazing job depicting the military with all the period accurate equipment as well
And Vietnam (slightly)
3:45 I like his gasps after he's fully back to normal, like he's scared of himself and what he's been doing. Anyone who's really lost control of themselves in a bad way can relate.
Omg :(
I'd much rather be the gentle person that never loses it, but when he does, havoc is seriously wreaked.
I relate to this on a personal level.
When his eyes go wide, and he starts attacking, that's the scariest person or being you can encounter.
One with no emotion. Terrifying.
@@enigmalfidelity or the calm one who finally lost his or her temper.
Notice that after his initial howl of rage, he doesn’t display any further emotion. He reverts back to the mindless killing machine he was created to be.
He’s in full control of all his weapons but he’s lashing out because of grief and lost
0:47 It almost looks like he’s smiling.
Genuinely scared me when I realized that.
@@infinitethoughts9744 he's not smiling. Its just his natural facial structure giving the illusion of smiling
@@radicalthunder5740 no crap, that's why he said "it almost looks like he's smiling..." which implicates that the giant is not actually smiling
One of the main things I find cool about his transformation is how his voice completely changes when he screams in anger, normally he’s pretty slow spoken and gentle, but then he suddenly lets out this extremely human like scream out of nowhere.
The disc gun on his arm is one of the coolest sci-fi weapons I've ever seen.
Agreed. Looks abit steampunk-y
And the tentacles-like appendages on his back are like those of the Tripods of the 2005 War of the Worlds.
Seeing that kind of weapon is scary.
what about the fact that he literally is just a portable BFG-10000
I totally agree.
ikr lets just take a moment to appreciate how cool all of the design is in this
That scream. That bloodcurdling scream. You can feel both the rage and sadness of someone who has lost something dear to them. Vin Diesel did an amazing job.
I thought you were joking at first, but no, I can't believe Vin fucking Diesel voiced the Giant.
@@ShogunMongol Family..
@@darkbrother339it’s ALWAYS about family…
Family and cars
@@morganbailey3231 And Groot
I find the “think your friend is dead when they’re actually still alive” cliche overdone, but here it works really well. The Giant just learned what death is yesterday so he’s not going to know to check for a pulse or make sure Hogarth’s still breathing. The only thing he knows is the deer was limp and now Hogarth is, so naturally he’s going to draw that conclusion. This movie is the king of heart.
Exactly. He just learned how to grasp the concept of death and now the only friend he's ever known is, to him, lying dead on the floor. Dude was totally broken and no doubt blaming himself.
and the fact that it looked like iron giant was dead but wasn't due to his rebuilding nature was a twist that was supporting the not dead cliché, but it actually worked pretty well here, as it made more sense than most scenarios of this in movies. And let's be honest, we all love Iron Giant, we all loved seeing him staying alive and smiling at the end!😊
This movie did a great job fleshing out Dean's character. He genuinely cares about Hogarth throughout the film. With a lot of kids films, the adult and the kid always butt heads and hate each other in the beginning and then slowly begin to respect and care about each other as the film goes on. But here Dean is likeable and relatable as soon as he's introduced. And the fact that his relationship with Hogarth's Mom is SECONDARY and not the main reason why he's in the film makes his character a breath of fresh air compared to a lot of films.
Emmett Brown from Back to the Future has the same dynamic.
Dean's character was great
It helps a lot that Dean is very much part of the beatnik community, an outcasted group undermined for their lack of conformity to societal norms (the very norms Mansley represents). He [Dean] sees a lot of himself in Hogarth, who was moved up a grade for being far smarter than his age would suggest. It doesn't faze him that the kid is a bit of an oddball, even taking into account his relationship with a 50-foot-tall alien war machine. To him, the world could use more unconventional types rather than the inflexible, married-to-the-rules types that leave no room for personal autonomy or outside-the-box thinking (concepts that allow the Giant to break free from his programming).
Dean reminded me alot of my late Dad he was welder like Dean
@@jldog134 im sorry :( hes in heaven looking down on u right now
"I do not fear the evil of the wicked. I fear the wrath of a once kind spirit."
"Beware the anger of the quiet man"
@@CHADCONTEXT check out the deleted scene
the bigger the heart, the bigger the rage
'There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in a storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.'- Patrick Rothfuss
@@harryfox7488 that's a good quote, i'll keep it in mind
I just realized, at 1:15, the general fired his pistol at the laser arms from it's back, and actually hit it twice, while in a moving car, being shot at, on rough terrain, with someone yelling in his ear. He was genuinely a badass.
That’s why he’s a general, he can fight as well as command
He’s got mad skills. Don’t fuck with the General.
Damn I've only realised that now and I've watched this loads.
He reload the gun to.
Not to mention he’s pragmatic enough to hear Dean out when the Giant returns. Hell if Mansley hadn’t launched that nuke, the Giant and the general probably would have talked out what the Giant was.
Something I only just noticed is that there's actually a lot of realism in the Giant's weapons. The three lasers coming out of his back for instance: You'll notice that right before they fire, they cast what looks like a beam of blue light. It could be that their creating an ionized path for the energy based projectiles to follow. Something similar could be happening with the little disc... thing he uses. Perhaps the ports on the sides of the disc are outputting a high pressurized mix of gas and ions, and the arms are igniting them in rapid bursts. Technologically speaking, this movie might be way more ahead of its time than we thought.
Bro just scienced the shit out of this fuck
Bro if that shit is an ionized path then anyone who gets shined with it getting stage 6 cancer lmao
I have the toy of this version of the Giant. His leg "Lights" are called "Phonton"-Somethings. I'm not sure if it's related to anything remotely close to ionization, but it's good to see someone who knows their stuff, scientifically or science-fictionally speaking. But to the movie's credit, it was based on mid-1900's sci-fi movies. It could be possible that some of the Giant's offensive weaponry could be a direct inspiration from "War of the worlds" in 1953. In that movie, the Martian beams are said to "Nullify Matter" by cancelling out the electrical bond between atoms. This could be that.
@@nickthepick8043 Well, I can't say for certain, but the idea of a "photon converger" does exist. Its the principle that photons are super fast and super light weight particles that - if you could gather enough together - could be used to make a super high velocity projectile based on the power of light. Depending on the energy output of such a device, it would theoretically have similar kickback to that of a railgun though, so it makes a bit of sense that they would be in the giant's legs where they would have the most stability. It would also certainly make sense to utilize sci-fi ideas of the time like you said. War of the Worlds has been reimagined plenty of times and is often regarded as some of the first of the sci-fi genre.
I still shudder seeing The Giant's full arsenal in action.
- His ability to reassemble from injury or damage.
- His Right hand Cannon great for Anti-Light Cavalry and Heavy Infantry
- His Left arm Disintigrator great for Anti-Heavy Cavalry and Anti-Defense
- His Right Fore-arm (I call it a) Pokey Gun great for Anti-Infantry
- Those Serpentine Blasters I can only assume are a combination of Anti-Air, Anti-Artillery, and Anti Armor and Infantry.
&
- HIS CORE Sphere Blaster. Which doesn't seem like an anti-anything other than anti-that direction. I mean it made a blast sphere the size of a city... so to me it looks like a if he see's an enemy coming from "that way" he uses this to just... delete "that way"
Dude's a One-Man Invasion... and yet the species or entity that enlists them is shown (in a cut scene from the movie) That they would send a Legion to conquer and/or devestate a planet.
I respect how the film contains anti-violence themes, but does not demonize the military. General Rogard is a rational, disciplined man; the civilian Mansley is power-hungry, impulsive, and cruel.
Yeah I have not clearly noticed it when I was child. It is cool though.
Miniature Plane.
Yeah, me too.
Mansley was the one that pissed him off
That's usually how government's work. The so-called "Boots on the ground" have no desire to kill, maim etc. but the meatball politicians in charge, out of harms way and others of similar ilk are all to eager for bloodshed.
I was today years old when I got this and I'm in the jrotc dammit.
Fun Fact: There's a deleted scene where the giant has a dream. The dream was supposed to hint at the giant's origins but it was cut. From what I could tell, the giant is an alien weapon sent to earth to cripple the world powers so the aliens can take control, but the dent in his head gave him amnesia and he reverted back to a program that causes him to absorb and retain information like a child.
Someone said that his home planet got destroyed and he was launched into space towards Earth by the explosion. Kinda like that theory more.
@@zerosorigin8387 Much like Goku and Superman themselves. How ironic.
Yeah his landing on Earth being an accident
I saw the seen
It was actually added to the Signature Edition cut of the Movie.
1:14
Woah that General isn't just firing at it blindly. He is actually trying to take out one of those snake thingies...with his pistol. Talk about bad ass.
Killjoy45 he hit it every time too, the giant is impervious though lol. Dudes a crackshot
Killjoy45 I never noticed that until now. Amazing!
Hes the goddamn general for a reason
DillaWorld lol even had to reload
He has common sense
*“What if a gun had a soul, and chose not to be a gun.”*
that would be rly cool
Force it to be
Nihilist Boi
no, no
hes got a point
Well sadly guns dont have souls and dont get to choose what they're used for. Could be shooting targets in a shooting range, animals, or Jihads in a pointless war. That gun ain't gonna fire itself
@@rileyshugart2808 Huh? y'all don't know what a metaphor is? or the comment you made is ironic
Fun fact the uss nautilus was the first nuclear powered submarine.
but it wasn't capable of a nuclear strike. it only has torpedo tubes, no ICBMs
True. Nautilus did not have nuclear weapons. It's anachronistic for there to be an SSBN, as the very first, USS George Washington, wasn't in service until about 1960, and this film is in late 1957. It's not a big deal for me though, as it's fiction and one of the best films I've ever seen
The nautilus was built more on under water exploration rather than under water combat
@@cloud6254 True, but It was armed with torpedoes, so it was a combat submarine.
Actually it might not be that Nautilus
If you watch closely in the part when the "Battleships" are firing
You can see a Sumner DD with FRAM I modernization (That program wasn't started on this class till 1959 and this is set two years prior) and just behind it is an actual BB
But the hull number on it reads "51"
USS Montana (BB-51) of the South Dakota class was never finished
So in this Alternate Universe, not only was she completed, but she also most likely served in WWII and was modernized after it
Batman: "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain"
Giant: "I saw myself become a villain but I still died a hero"
everyone dies! whether or not you die a hero or a coward is up to you!
Still didnt die though Iron Giant a Real one
I think batman didn't say that one quote
@@elgordobondiola He didn't. Harvey Dent said it. But I said Batman because that's where it came from
Ah, very poetic indeed.
1:15 I love how the general is casually trying to take the giant down with a pistol lol
I think he was trying to take out the laser guns from the giant's back. But it's not like a small gun like that would take down something that big but ya gotta respect his effort.
@@RandomPamtriFella you gotta respect a man who never stops trying. And it’s been a minute since I’ve seen that scene but I’m pretty sure when they are in the car running front the giant the general was firing at the giants joints. Like shoulder blades and stuff. Aka trying to find weak points instead of just firing blindingly. But still he’s a boss for never stoping.
@@jakemallory12 also we can actually see him hit all of his shots!
@@Jörmungandr645well he is a general so how do you become a general without proper aim
Better than Mansley at least
At 0:25 I freaking LOVE the way the giant shudders. That primal feeling of pure rage just begging to be released, and finally he lets it out. It’s a very human and therefore relatable moment, perfectly captured in the animation.
For me what does it is right after he pulls out his 1st weapon you can see his head slowly glancing down as if he was aiming at something specifically down the sites with anger and intent on getting even Because in the giant's mind all he had was Hogarth and they just took it all away from him Because he saw Hogarth as the peak of humanity cut down by a gun And in his moment of rage all he saw was guns all around him probably looking Inside his own programming seeing that he himself is more of a gun than he realized but he didn't have to be we realized that later that he didn't have to be but in this particular moment he didn't know that
@@wellthen.......9384 Yes indeed. His primal instinct after witnessing Hogart visible demise from the shot of a gun is to become a gun himself. Ironic when you think about it.
Or atleast I think it is.
You ppl are thinking wayy to hard. Its just a shit movie
and 1999 CG animation at that
To this day, I still get chills when I see the raw levels of emotion that the giant shows whenever he thinks that Hogarth is dead. Everything from his hands trembling to the heartbreaking whimpers really demonstrate just how far the character has come since the beginning of the movie. His first few scenes have his body moving in a much more robotic and stiff way and this scene shows beautifully just how human the giant has become. This movie has always remained one of my all times favorite pieces of cinema, let alone animated films. There’s a reason that this film has a cult following and I am so happy when I see new people getting introduced to it.
I feel ashamed that I was only able to watch the end part of the movie twice when I was young, then watched it fully yesterday after remembering about it. I watched it in a pirated website since I was absolutely desperate to rewatch it, it was beautiful yet saddening but I hate that I wasn't able to cry in the movie since I wasn't attached to it when I was young. 😞
I adore this film. I find firearms fascinating and even cool, but the overall message about the film and being anti-war resonates with me on a pretty deep level.
"We are who we choose to be."
@Repent-and-believe-in-Jesus1keep your illogical and irrelevant bull shit out of threads like this, this adds NOTHING to the discussion, besides, religion is clearly designed to appeal to morons, of which you clearly qualify.
‘God’ does not exist, it’s a man made fiction to sucker morons and control the easily manipulated.
0:34 - Pulse cannon
0:39 - Beam imploder
0:49 - Watcher tentacles
1:20 - Storm disk
2:52 - The Annihilator
Is it in a book or something?
Anddddd last of all nuke
I think 2:52 should be called "the Annihilator" because of how ridiculusly powerful it is just like real annihilitation of matter.
@@jjaust
I'm just creative.
2:52 De-particalization cannon
I still can’t believe this was a box office bomb. One of the best movies of all time
Bro it never was a flop it literally earns more money than modern WB movies
@@Theboredgod 50M budget. 31M box office. It was a box office bomb. I’m sure it’s profitable today but at the time it lost money
Marketing. WB dropped the ball hard.
@@cpob2013 I’m glad they knew that was the case and bird still got to begin his incredible career. No pun intended
@@cpob2013yeah i read and researched about that also , WB failed to market and advertise the Iron Giant movie properly before it's eventual release in movie theaters , hence the so-called "Box Office Bomb" failure that followed suit
"Superman..."
Never cried so much as a kid before. The Iron Giant is a masterpiece.
Just even saying that word then adding iron giant next is enough
Amen
As a kid? I'm 19 and still cry
@@solaire2271 im 24, likewise
I'm 50 and... dammit why did the comment section get blurry all of the sudden?
I'm SOOOO glad they didn't go with the original idea of this being a musical.
WAIT THIS WAS GONNA BE A MUSICAL-
@@Daniel-wu6pl yes
Thats the worst idea i have heard
Now I'm imagining the Giant doing a Riverdance special
Yeah, I think they changed directors or something like that.
0:12 That signs of pain, trying to find an answer and finally falling into pain and anger, without telling a word, is the most painful part of the movie for me.
LOL remember the part where Dean had a squirrel in his pants and there was you know expresso hahaha that was funny hahaha bye now sorry
I wondered how much of that animation was based on Vin Diesel's recording performance?
@@JebHoge
Probably had more to do with Brad Bird peering around the corner and stepping in with a taser when necessary
Same
This scene is the most powerful and emotive depiction of the transition to pure furious rage I've ever seen. It's Sci-fi, but every man knows what it feels like to get pushed to that point beyond reason where suddenly you see red and switch into battle mode.
The mask comes off.
The giant's exposed spine just took a direct hit from 406mm AP shells at near point blank range (For a ship's cannon at least). You can't get any more badass than that
Tbf it did crash land on the earth also he survived a nuclear bomb
It did nothing, but was powerful enough to get his attention. Of course he's made from some incredible Alien metallic alloy
@@username.exenotfound2943 Also it got electrocuted and still ran after a certain boy turned off the power.
Those were Iowa’s?
I doubt those were Iowas they were probably heavy cruisers armed with 8 inch guns(203mm)
Something I always thought about was how weird the bump on his head actually is. But I think the idea is that his bump is more symbolism than science. When he falls to earth and gets the bump, it’s literally just him losing his memory and main function due to blunt force trauma, sure, but when he goes berserk, the bump fixing itself is a way to show he’s resigned to reverting himself back to a gun. Which is even more powerful when Hogarth helps him calm down - the bump doesn’t reform, his head is still fine, he’s just at the point where he’s learned to suppress that function without forgetting it entirely.
Wow! After years and years of appreciating this childhood gem of animation, this was a revelation ^_^
what
So essentially what happened to goku? Had all the aggression of a saiyan until he hit his head, became a kinder person and swore to protect the earth?
@@lyndonbaltazar21 exactly
I also like how when he calms down he panicked as if he was thinking oh my god what did I do
I like how nobody in the movie ever acknowledges the fact that an alien civilization quite literally sent a murder bot to attack humanity.
@Ray Field imagine if he is a "weak scout class"
And there is more powerful types... *Intense shiver*
@Ray Field creepy...
Actually wasn’t he was struck off-course. There was an extended scene with hundreds of em so he wouldn’t have been alone.
I was under the perception he was on Earth by mistake.
@@quillmaurer6563 he was.
I love how you just get a glimpse of what the Giant was actually created to do, and that's enough to terrify you
One of the most powerful scenes in the history of film
Because he thought they killed Hogarth, The Iron Giant went from "I am not a GUN" to "Due to your ignorance I will now become a gun the likes of which the Earth has never seen"
Guns are just tools. Iron giant is a machine made for destruction but those abilities also give him the strength to save the earth from nuclear holocaust.
@@dreamsprayanimationthe iron giant was intended to be the tool for an alien invasion of some sort.
@@Eradicator-jv9xrwhoever he's creator is has sinister intentions for Earth obviously but why because the creator fears humanity becoming a future threat or is there something important on the planet that's alien?
@@Elitesolider1023 pretty sure it was not mentioned. But it's a kids movie so it's best to just assumed the aliens wanted to invade simply for the natural resources
@@dreamsprayanimationvalid point, but also he didnt save the earth from nuclear annihilation, he saved Rockwell, Maine lol
The Iron Giant, The Incredibles, and Ratatouille. Brad Bird sure knows a thing or to. When it comes to animation.
He really does direct works of art
Eternal respect to Brad bird
You fucking think?! This is my favorite movie.
He's a legend.
for a moment i read ''The Incredibles'' as ''The Imbeciles''
Something I noticed just now rewatching this, notice the group's reaction to Annie saying that Hogarth is down with the giant "No! No stop! My son is out there!" 3:12
Everyone in the scene reacts with shock and horror, looking out towards the Giant. Everyone... except Mansley, who looks out with anger, as if to say "That damned boy is in my way again." Really says a lot about his character.
Wow! I actually never noticed that!
It says even more when, after claiming everything he was doing was in defence of his Country and ordering the missile launch (against the General's orders) and realising he had effectively targeted himself as well, he tried to run away shouting "Sc**w our country! I wanna live!"
His reaction and emotiom when he thought he lost his friend is incredibly human, you can legit feel his pain
@@GoodBroGoodcan't take over what's destroyed. And I'm pretty sure Giant had murder on the mind at that moment
Okay, I know he's a robot so he can't actually cry, but...those facial expressions were done so well that it broke my heart to watch.
Especially once he recognizes hogarth and he does that deep inhale of emotion because he knew he fucked up. Gets me everytime
He actually has a soul. The pitch for the movie was "what if a gun had a soul and didn't want to be a gun" so maybe he can cry
(1:52)
"You scare me Mansly."
When you scare a 3 star general you MIGHT be slightly insane.
mansley died from his car crashing into the giants foot
"Mansley”
@@SlavicUnionGaming No he didn't
He was wearing a helmet
Also the general told his soldiers to make sure he stayed in case the bomb actually hit
Jampolo And he probably got arrested and sentenced to prison for lying to the army and government and nearly almost killed everyone because of his selfishness, stubbornness and pride.
Maxx Gunner fuck prison, he ordered a nuclear strike on American soil. He was more than likely executed
What makes this scene so impactful for me is that the Giant thought he failed in protecting Hogarth, and he thought the military was the cause for it. The Giant wasn't just going ballistic, he was seeking vengeance against the ones who he believed killed his only friend.
well hogarth did tell him everybody dies or something along those lines. Maybe he wanted to confirm lol
That reminds me, how did he dent his head when cannon shells from a battleship can't?
Country Blumpkin because he fell millions of miles towards earth from space
But he still want to shut at Hogarth
0:27 This battle sequence is the moment that sold me on this movie. The Giant getting angry enough from Hogarth seemingly being killed and still getting attacked to cause the bump on his head that made him forget his original purpose to heal itself, revealing that the less harmful, child-like state he was in for most of the movie was a malfunction, and then using the guns he was built with to defend himself before being brought back down to earth by Hogarth. It validates both positions to take on the Giant in the movie, that Kent was right in him being a threat to national security, and that Hogarth was right in that he has some form of ethos worth preserving, but at the end of the day it's a giant alien robot with free will. Hogarth keeps denying it and trying to make him into a wholly good person who can assimilate into society (as a kid like him sees it) by idolizing "good" in Superman and demonizing "evil" in Atomo, and reducing his purpose to buzzwords like "guns kill" and "you are not a gun, you are good", something he becomes more convinced of throughout the movie as he teaches the Giant more about life and death. Kent keeps denying it by speculating where it came from and who made it (as the government wants to pacify it and keep him to research his origins and potentially affect the Cold War) or the potential destruction it could cause as he now knows that a giant killer robot is feasible, which he becomes more convinced of throughout the movie as keeps seeing evidence of its existence that he can't prove yet without being met with ridicule, like all of the metal structures getting bitten and Hogarth's extreme protection of the Giant. However, while he has both good and evil qualities, they both want him to stay, but because of what he is he inevitably can't. Even when under the influence of others, he has free will, he's effectively invincible, and will act in his own interests alien to those of humans, which can bring both good and bad things to them. The Iron Giant isn't a movie about friendship or politics or humanity, it's about innocence, and that's why it's a good movie.
An excellent point. From a realistic perspective, this one scene gives every ounce of veracity the General and Mansly ever needed for their arguments about this entity. It _is_ a weapon, and one they cannot hope to stop as the end of the movie showed. Yet because the movie deals in innocence, the Giant isn’t the scary monster he most certainly is meant to be. By sheer chance, he’s given the opportunity to become something different. Perhaps even something _good._
It’s a fantastic, frank look at our world through the lens of sci-fi alien robots. I love it so much.
@@OneBiasedOpinion but at least **ONE** of them had enough common sense to unnecessary launch an atomic bomb and endangering civilians. That missile is targeted at the giant's current position!! Where's the giant, Mansley!?!?
@@davidchism6081lol-
1:13 did anyone notice the general is trying to destroy one of the turrets on the Giants back? Man is smart.
That honestly is a good idea, the turrets seem to have a thinner body meaning they would be easier to take down
Holy shit i knew he was shooting at the robot but I never saw that they were contacting!
I mean if it were a boss fight thatd be where id start
He reloads on the middle too. Good animation, nice attention to detail.
Let’s not forget that he was hitting the giant’s turrets while on a moving vehicle.
General was never the bad guy it was always mansley
And the General's soldiers too. They were only trying to defend their country.
@@warrioroflight6872 The only thing they're really aware of is some guy from homeland security says there was a giant robot and after they thought it was just a prop it turned out to be real.
EXACTLY. Even now, I keep rooting for the Giant to just smash him.....
Mansley wasn’t a bad guy either
@@warrioroflight6872 Many innocent soldiers died in that one scene
Even the nicest of people has their breaking point
When the nice guy gets angry, the devil shivers
+Ryan Olivier correction "when a good man loses his patience, the devil shivers in fear"
Ryan Olivier image if Jesus ever got pissed....the devil would shit a brick...
Kargath Bladefist (WoD)
pretty sure that happened
or if you watch Doctor Who. "Demons run when a Good Man goes to war."
0:09 He flips him over like a bug he doesn't want to hurt, and the following "I don't know what to do" gesture is heartbreaking. They conveyed so much with visual storytelling.
His gestures are so childlike before he buries his head in his hands
Like "I didn't want this" "what can I do?" "He's so small he didn't deserve this" it's pure helplessness he has no one else to turn to😢 and he even wants to touch him again maybe even pick him up but he's remembering Hogarth's words to not man-handle a dead thing just like with the deer so he is actually listened and learned from Hogarth and accidentally thinks he's death
Powerful visual story telling
One thing I really like about the portrayal of the military - and the General in particular - is that they are NOT IDIOTS. They may have been fooled and taken in temporarily by Manley's paranoia. But all the soldiers are operating from reasonable doctrine given the information they have and what they've been trained for.
Which means, unfortunately, that except for Hogarth talking the Giant down, they would have been SCREWED. But it wouldn't be from being outright dumb themselves. No - the only person holding the idiot ball in this film is Manley.
Yes. For fucking once. It's a nice change of pace.
That is a nice observation, one that I feel gets overlooked in this underrated film. And you know what having the military being portrayed as competent (though outgunned..) did nothing to subtract from the film, in fact it only made it all the better in my opinion! I guess MY point is maybe more film makers should give this approach a try, having competent good, neutral or bad guys (or whomever is the military guys in a story) can open up some intresting possibilities.
Just goes to show you how f'ing powerful the Giant is
I like how Manley, after triggering the nuclear attack, attempts to flee the scene and the General apprehends him, sarcastically telling him to stay like a good soldier. If they are all going to die, the idiot responsible should die with them!
Soldiers are prepared for the worst and they are just following orders from General Rogard. He is also unaware of the Giant is not dangerous.
No one else has said it so I will.
There’s an interesting comparison of Hogarth and the dead deer earlier in the film. Giant’s instinct is to touch the deer when he sees its lifeless body, and Hogarth says “Don’t do that!” Telling the Giant to respect the dead body. Giants confusion with death is sorted with the idea that souls don’t die. But it makes his grief at the beginning of this scene so raw. Because he’s met with his instinct again to pick up Hogarth who he thinks is dead. And he stops himself and you can read in him the helplessness he feels in that moment. He even reaches out to Hogarth a second time before burying his face in his hands. Confronted with death again, and confronted by the lesson he learned, he crumbles under the emotional weight, and he loses control.
A super small detail that goes a long way. Fuckin love it.
And also if you look, when the giant starts shooting at the military, you can see the general reload and shoot one of the tentacle guns.
@@armorpro573 haha not really what I was talking about but God bless! Mans did put the G in General in this movie
@@joyboy6134 Normally cartoons tend to portray generals as crazy, loud, belligerent authority figures, but this movies does this professionally. The general is a strategic man who only orders his men to fire due to the risk of civilian casualties. And he orders his men to stand down once Hogarth is still alive. Best part about this movie is when the missile explodes, you can briefly see the general saluting.
0,0
"It's still alive!"
"Sh-SHOOT AT IT!!"
Worst. Decision. Ever.
Treajean Taumbo
A few seconds later
“LETS GET OUT OF HERE!”
Treajean Taumbo Agreed
.Lol.
Idiot humans will destroy what is not familiar to them
It was at this moment mansley realized he had FUCKED UP
3:36 I love Hogarth wincing when he says "Choose," clearly thinking "I hope this actually works."
And yet it doesn't detract from how touching the whole scene is.
0:30 that scream is the best, scary but the moment he finally snapped.
Fun fact the voice actor for iron giant was vin deisel
Bigbrainbeanboy everybody’s knows that.
Absolutely perfect
@@pastetatse4957
I Am Groot
I got evangelion vibes from the scream
Three things wise men fear:
A storm at sea.
A night with no moon.
The fury of a gentle soul.
Wisest comment on here.
Demons cower when a gentle man goes to war
Epic
beware of the nice ones.
Sovreign071 you’re just one of those commenters that make the video so much better to watch. :D
To the untrained eye most viewers will not notice how the background goes from a somber white to a seething orange/red as the Iron giant goes mad. And continually shifts as his anger becomes more apparent.
Good eye!!
Garry McMhastegut apparently his Emotions can control the Earth's Sky
Very good eye. It could be that or the effects of the sunset though
Good Boi MarkV the sunset didnt animate itself
DatOneNoder it’s a metaphor for how angry The Iron Giant is getting, it’s pretty obvious lol
The eyes going wide and the seamless movements of attack.
Thats pure rage. Someone who loses all emotion is a heck of a lot scarier than someone being overly emotional.
This movie taught me an important lesson: No matter how upset you are, you can ALWAYS calm down. Even if you are a nuclear powered sentient robot from outer space
You mean 0:30?
@@Frappucino487 yup.
I've been there. Black out rage.
When you "come to", whatever destruction you have caused is not remembered. It's a shocker
@@enigmalfidelity oh
“All battleships fire at the robot. NOW! NOW DAMN IT NOW!” That line truly amazing to me
Same here! It's like the writers said: "Screw it! Have the characters slightly curse in a kid's movie bc their life is danger not need to censor here"
when he said battleships from here at 2:50 it is a baltimore-class heavy cruiser he could have said all cruisers fire at the robot. NOW! NOW DAMN IT NOW!
also i think if an acuall battleship was used the robot would have been destroyed to pieces and put itself back toghether slowly
@@yumisuremaki2748 True but I think it also depends on the robot himself if he’s well armored
Pretty cool line given the context. For the military personel to witness an alien machine capable of rendering most of the units into molecular particulates or scrap. It's a desperate move for them to resort to the strongest form of conventional weaponry they have. Even then, the stakes became higher when they decided to escalate to small-scale nuclear bombardment.
Also, I like that the battleships design resembles a modernized mix between the North Carolina and Iowa classes of battleships
This movie is over twenty years old and it’s STILL amazing. The animation is just gorgeous to look at, the story telling is perfection. And I still cry at the end when he sacrifices himself.
It’s by far my favorite movie I’ve ever seen.
What would you do if you were as big and powerful as iron man, would you be kind or cruel?
@bigmatthews666 a sane person would watch cat videos
I love how at the ending of the movie, The Giant essentially puts itself back together which brings up the horrifying aspect that not even a Nuclear Explosion can destroy this thing which means if Hogarth didn't calm it back down, the Giant literally would have vaporized the entire planet
Taking heavy inspiration from War of the World's where the EMP shielding was so futuristic and indestructible that even when they started dropping Nukes on top of it they just bounced right off.
A direct hit from a nuke is needed to merely incapacitate the robot. But it could still be contained if the parts are kept separated. Now imagine how doomed the world would be if an entire army of such robots arrived...
War of the Worlds came after this movie though...
@@mitchellfitzgerald1817 My dude.. War of the worlds was written in 1897. You''re thinking of a movie remake it looks like.
Interesting angle, I'd never considered that. I always thought of the "giant rebuilding itself" as being for the purpose of the movie having a happy ending, but this gives it far more ominous ramifications. Which means Hogarth truly saved the world when he thought he was just saving his friend.
@@mrsidorax8623 The way you described containing the Giant makes him sound like an SCP lol.
1:25 the blank expression of the soldier coupled with General Rogard yelling into the radio for an artillery strike is probably one of my favorite moments in this scene.
Less blank, more shocked
He was probably among the few soldiers that hadn't seen the Giant yet, and now that he is seeing it, he's so shocked that he can't express words. Let's be honest if anyone saw something like the Giant in real life we'd probably have the same expression.
I wish I could go back to being 10 years old and watch this scene for the first time again. Pure adrenaline rush.
I still get goosebumps. I’m o e if those peeps who get very emotional charged by scenes sounds and music. I can actually feel the Iron Giant’s rage when he screams out.
I forgot that this was 1957, the height of the cold war era...
Makes me wonder what if the Iron giant crashed into the USSR instead where he did in the movie. What would the scenario be
@@MC-Phillips Our Iron Giant
@@MC-Phillips Considering that "The Iron Giant" is basically a Superman movie without Superman, it would probably be a "Red Son" type movie.
There was a 1959 Cadillac at Dean's junkyard though
It was 61, but tensions were grow high during the Sputnik Crisis too
Military: *attacks iron giant*
iron giant: *attacks back*
Military: *surprised pikachu face*
In The Military's defense, Giant's more powerful than them!
I don’t think they expected the thing to turn full terminator and pulling up 5 giant guns from his body.
@@florians9949 more like 6 with the extra gun in its gun in 1:21
@@rytlocknroll sure
@@wax_combative5569 7 considering its chest artillery, 8 if you consider the eye lasers too
Can we just acknowledge the fact that the general went full on Patton and started shooting at the giant with a pistol after watching tank rounds bouncing off it.
Edit: dam a hell of alot of likes but at the same time the replys are somewhat scary.
Saving private ryan vibes
Might weaken it or hits a weak spot making it a critical hit.
I liked the fact he reloaded his gun after firing TWO shots.
@@terrillwilliams1515 I'd doubt that
"Eat lead alien robit!"
1:10 General Rogard shooting at the giant with a handgun. Badass.
Idiodyssey87 also if you notice too the 🔫 shot sounds like the one from terminator 2
I’ve watched this scene more than 30 times over the years, and it’s your comment that made me notice that
Also, if you trace his line of fire, he's trying to take out the Cobra-Beams. He's not just shooting randomly.
Also reloading a fresh magazine while bouncing up and down too!
Nails every shot on what appears to be the Giant's weakest point. Man knows what he's doing.
Fun fact: even the “bomb” didn’t successfully destroy him, it just merely dismantled him.
No shit, we watched the movie.
Lol spoiler alert
If the iron giant can pull himself back together. could he disassemble himself as well?
@@pinheadlarry8006 hit him with the castle bravo then, the heat will melt him and the radiation will damage his components.
@@botyaltotertutal468
He was hit by a SLBM Nuclear Warhead, which is comparable to the Titan-II Warhead, which would yield 9 megatons. I don't think that in proportion Castle Bravo 6 more megatons would make such a difference.
2:58
The silence before seeing the sheer damage the Giant can really do, followed by Mansley just looking at the general over a nuclear option gives me chills to this day.
1:10
I never noticed this before, but General Rogard is shooting at the giant with his handgun, despite things like tank cannons clearly having no effect against it.
Dude has balls of steel
Didn’t matter to him since he fought in WW2, it was all hands on deck no matter how big no matter how small
If you look closely, he landed a shot on one of the laser turrets!
@@2fast790 two, actually! The general is a badass
"They beat the wolf until he bites, so they can say it's bad."
iam14andthisisdeep
What a quote...
Bullying in a nutshell
@@dinomite29 fr
That quote is so relevant here
This scene was terrifying. You realize the Giant was clearly sent to earth to destroy it. If he hadn't bumped his head he might have done just that
if it is sent for wanton destruction, why do the armaments only come out after it was attacked?
John Smith So the giant is exactly like Goku.
Dostoron there is a deleted scene that shows the giant as part of an alien army ravaging planets
John Smith actually he was a part of a war with an army of giant Giants. the war destroyed their own Planet he was a Survivor and crashed on Earth after I blew up. him getting so angry remove the bump and Jogged his memory of what he was.
Lucky LeftEye there was a deleted scene that was in storyboard form as a special feature. they completed it and few other and added them to the signature edition for the 15th anniversary of the film.
Demons flee when a good man goes to war.
I like that one
Demons run but count the cost. The battle's won, but the child is lost - Steven Moffat
When a gentleman loses his patience, the devil shivers.
Doctor who! lol
Bambi II 2006 Kung Fu Panda 2008
Ok so first of all, notice how organic and human-like the Giant’s mannerisms are when he sees Hogarth’s seemingly dead body in comparison to how static and robotically he moved when Hogarth found him at the power plant.
Secondly, that scream at 0:26 is chilling. You can feel the Giant’s sorrow and anger. He’s mad at himself for letting his friend seemingly die, he’s angry at these people who are shooting at him. He’s furious at them for shooting his feet and making and Hogarth fall, for causing him to drop his friend.
He doesn’t go ballistic just because he’s being fired at. This time he enters his “kill mode” due to the sheer fury and pain he’s feeling.
What a movie
1:20 I always thought it was cool that the Giant had some kind of super-powerful spark-thrower, really creative weapon design.
I think it works based on friction as in the disc spins very fast and the claw things poke and scratch against it creating sparks.
Yeah... That is pretty cool.
Sounds like something Tesla would have created. (The scientist not the car company)
twistedyogert Considering how Musk is slowly turning into a supervillain, don’t put it past Tesla to build a giant walking superweapon
I meant Nikola Tesla, but I agree with you, I've never trusted Elon Musk since day one.
I remember thinking,
“Music hurts doesn’t it eh?”
One of the best movies to bomb at the box office.
To bad it was underrated .
Fuck the Box Office. A lot of my most favourite films flopped there and I never regret watching any of those movies. Everyone decide for themself.
Shawshank redemption flopped at the box office too and now considered one of the best movies ever
It was mostly Warner Bros. fault. They didn't advertise it enough, so it came out without any anticipation.
Jeff Daniels that was only because of Disney's Tarzan was also playing in the theaters that year. I believe the Iron Giant is the better movie then Tarzan.
Can we appreciate the giant just attacking only the military instead of the innocent folks in town? At least he has a specific enemy type and won't harm anything unless it's armed.
Who knows? Maybe the Giant's robot-kind is programmed to only attack those who attack them.
@@nickthepick8043 it was meant to destroy all humanity
The giant was fully in control of his weaponry at this point; he didn't revert to his original programming. He just went berserk out of sheer uncontrolled anger.
He almost shot at Bogart, he shoots at everything that approaches him. The civilians just ran away.
If skynet went all out
The giant's rage scream gets me every time.
0:30 - That first shot wasn't part of his defense protocol - that one was personal.
You know it's amazing how this movie has the same message as Lilo and Stitch. Just because a being is programmed and built for a seemingly singular purpose does not mean that they cannot develop a purpose of their own to choose to be what they are or to choose what they could be.
Silent Soul Ken SSK
A shame that if something is literally programmed for something, it won't change since it literally cannot unless it is programmed with the ability to change.
Originally... if you looked at some of the deleted scenes of this movie. The iron giant was sent from another planet to destroy or conquer it. But somehow the reason for the bump on his head that must’ve happened to the iron giant while impacting on earth he became good. And humble. But as soon as his rage returned his bump went away and turned into his normal state the real reason he was sent there in the first place
GokuzKamehameha not really.
That's some deep stuff.
Except this movie is 100x better
What makes this scene so much more powerful to me isn't the excessive amount of force the Iron Giant displays. It's the enraged, digitized scream it emits as it transforms. It gives the impression of an implacable war machine driven not by humans or mere directives, but by sheer rage. And that is both awesome and terrifying.
Totally agree
Thing is, it _isn't_ a machine that's doing the screaming.
What we are hearing is the grieving, broken howl of a _person,_ a thinking, feeling entity that has just been convinced that, through a combination of their failings and the violence of others, their friend is dead.
Not everyone believes it to be possible, but the fact of the matter is that the human body, in particular, the brain, is just an impossibly complex machine. Everything that our brains are capable of can be mechanically replicated, so long as the system is complex enough. It isn't too much of a stretch to realize that, if a machine can think like a human, it can _feel_ like one too.
What the Iron Giant is experiencing here is a twisted amalgam of pain, grief, despair and *hatred.* However, the last of these is in fact the result of the American army's, in the words of the immortal Samuel Jackson, "stupid-ass" decision to keep attacking him.
His friend is gone, and these _insects_ have the nerve to keep trying to kill them? After everything that happened, including him actively trying to _resist_ his self-defense protocols?
The Iron Giant finally classifies them as an enemy...and in doing so, snaps the mental lock. In an instant, he knows what to do. He knows what they _deserve._ In the words of the Ninth Doctor?
Exterminate.
The scream sounded extremely human, it makes me wonder about the origins of the Giant
And all of it was Mansley's fault.
This is why you NEVER underestimate a gentle giant. They're damn scary when you push them too far.
Optimus Prime
BAG
I'm 6'2, so I tower above all my friends.
One of them outright betrayed me and he's seen what a giant can do to a pipsqueak little twig like him. I'm not even bulky, just tall. But more muscle per bodymass, so I'm bigger, still lol
@@IgnarHusky betrayal always stings, like salt in a wound....
@@michaelaluna7684 Especially when it was not just a friendship, either. We had a close connection, but he never saw it that way. Now I'm filling that void with the friends who've came through to replace that. Using that salt as seasoning
I didn’t even noticed The giant screamed in agony and rage at 0:31 until it was pointed out. Still gives me chills to this day
Bruh how do you not notice that
@@Stryker_Beats it’s been years since I saw this film
"You scare me, Mansley." Best line and the delivery is perfect
“You want us to bomb _ourselves_ in order to kill it?” Yeah, Mansley had clearly lost it.
@@dauntless0711At that point he didn't lose it. He was trying to lure it to open or empty land to destroy it. He didn't lose it until everyone found out the Giant was friendly and no one was trying to destroy it.
The way he wanted to lure the gaint away In order to destroy it made sense
Fun fact: the animators found it difficult to animate this scene without having the giant kill anyone
the poor tank loaders...
Commanders and maybe the gunner could’ve got lucky if they where on the top but screw the driver and the unlucky crew
@@sniptaclar5568 nah man for that much overpressure to flip a tank 20 ft everyone inside was strawberry jam
0:35 Those guys absolutely died.
@@armorpro573
Movies almost always forgo realism due to lack of research, and most people don't know that there's more than two men inside the average American tank. I myself used to think that tanks only had one driver and one machine gun operator and that all the other functions like reloading of the main cannon were done automatically with machinery.
Besides, you can find plenty of cartoons and games where tanks are operated by only one or two guys, so I don't think there's any reason to assume that this movie is any more accurate, especially since it's supposed to be family-friendly and I can point out other things in it that aren't accurately depicted.
The scariest thing is... If the nuke had actually hit the town... Their would be no one to report what had happened and the US government would see it as a Soviet provocation...
In other words... *TOTAL ATOMIC ANIHLATION* ...
The Nautilus was still there, and most likely would atleast have transmitted the message of a warhead being fired to the whitehouse.
@@slyseal2091 You can't transmit shit after a nuclear blast. Even after it's over, the fallout would continue to scramble radio frequencies. If the sub has ELF-capability (Extremely Low Frequency), then that might be a way, but that would still be a really slow process, because each morse letter gets stretched over the course of multiple seconds. If there's any encryption on the message, that would drastically lengthen the time to transmit. It takes about 15 minutes for the first wave of ICBMs to hit.
@@manictiger Or you know they could just send the "we fired the nuke" after they fired the nuke, not after it detonated.
@@slyseal2091 Ah, fuck that. This is the military we're talking about! Competence is not allowed! You're fired!
There's plenty of inconsistencies in this film. The SLBM shown wasn't in service yet during the year the movie was created. Additionally, nuclear strikes require either direct authorization from the President or for a submarine to be unable to communicate for some time with command, make the assumption that nuclear weapons have destroyed their country, and launch a retaliatory strike. And NORAD would easily be able to tell where the launch occurred by radar tracking soon after it happened, referencing it with the position of the submarine and other naval forces in the area, and probably conclude that it was a Broken Arrow incident of some kind.
This is my favorite part. Seeing him go absolutely insane is amazing.
SidWilson17 Holy shit! I never expected to even see you here like 😂😂
The Iron Giant or Kent Mansley? 😂
I love the part when kent at 1:10 is absolutely scared shitless and is yelling at a member to go faster
sorry
RIP to the Loader and Gunner who didn't bail out of the vaporized M41 in time. That thing has a crew of 4.
F
A short and sad history
Gunner and driver : (
I'm not so sure about that. This is a kid-friendly movie, so I don't think it's a stretch to say that nobody died.
More importantly, I didn't know for most of my life that tanks have more than two people in them. I just assumed that it was machinery reloading the cannon and whatnot. I mean, in most games, you can just get in a tank and control all of its functions. I thought that's how they worked in real life.
So maybe the movie makers thought the same thing and these tanks are somehow only manned by two soldiers because of movie logic. Therefore, there wasn't anyone in the tank when it got destroyed.
The final thing worth mentioning is that the General was willing to stop fighting the Giant when he found out that it was inherently gentle. He's obviously a smart guy, but I'm not sure he would have been so willing to stop attacking if he knew some of his men had died.
But I don't know for certain. Maybe you're right that some guys died, but I don't think that it's an inevitable outcome of this scene.
The 1st tank that took a hit got sent 100 feet in the air and nobody bailed out of that one lol
@@captainsternn7684 Yup. No way anyone could survive being inside a tank during that kind of impact lol.
The animation on this is better than anything I've seen from Disney.
Yeah. I said it.
For a 1999 film I'd call this animation pretty good.
I agree with you this is still one of my favorites
+Chase Hiltz for any film this is really good. I wouldn't call it the best but the fact that it's 17 years old and still looks great says a lot
You know this movie will always hold a special place in my heart. For it was the first Scifi movie I ever saw
+hoilst I can agree more!!
One of my favorite details about this scene is how they use the sky to reflect the Giant's psyche. It starts off grey and relatively peaceful, but it's subtley tainted orange after the Giant tries to pick up Hogarth and mistakenly believes him to be dead. As soon as the military fire on him and the Giant screams in rage, the sky turns blood red. The Giant is done holding back. If they want a gun, he's going to give them a gun.
As a side note, the electric disc at 1:20 is still one of the most unique and creative sci-fi weapons I've ever seen. I was fascinated by it as a kid, and I'm still fascinated by it as an adult.
Never noticed that until you pointed it out. Whenever I rewatch this movie I always find something new I’ve never noticed before. It’s incredible how much there is to examine and praise about this film
We all have our iron giant moments where we go from gentle and harmless to full ballistic.once we're pushed far enough
“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.”
0:38 - 0:45 is one of my favorite moments in sound design history. The charging up sound, the energy ball, the explosion. Oh, *magnifique!*
2:52
The charge up of his BFG is just amazing, you can FEEL the power behind the explosion
@@guardsmen6274 it really amazing - i mean, when don't know how sounds some weird alien hi-power weapon.
This sounds frightening and funnily enough real. Cheers to the sound engineer.
@@guardsmen6274 BIG FREAKIN’ GRENADE