‘Absolutely excruciating’ - does Britain's dental industry need a complete overhaul?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2023
- We have never been known for our perfect teeth in this country - in fact, there used to be a TV programme called Britain's Worst Teeth.
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But now some people have to travel hundreds of miles for dental treatment - others resort to DIY treatment, pulling out their own teeth.
A damning report by the Health and Social Care Committee says it's becoming so hard for people to get access to the dental services they need, that the entire industry needs a complete overhaul - and fast.
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There is no NHS dentistry anymore.
exactly. None of them take on patients on benefits. Its basically "pay or suffer." And even then, most of them are fully booked only seeing migrants. Mine refused to take anyone on, whole waiting room was fighting aged men speaking in foreign tongue.
@@AzguardMike🤡
@@AzguardMike pay or suffer
It’s appalling the nhs dentists haven’t a clue what there doing there still halfway through there courses to all nhs patients are getting shoddy dental treatment
There's none around here. I set a search radius of 50 miles on the NHS website and there were no NHS dentists taking on patients.
I don't recall the reduction in NI or tax when we had this service removed
It is a national disgrace .Many dentists don 't want to go private but the contracts from government have made it impossible for them to deliver a good quality service for all .More money ,less stress working privately .Infuriating after paying national insurance for nearly 4 decades .The impact of bad teeth and gums affects all our general health too .A complete re- think is needed.
Lol forgot Channel 4 existed, another leftie sinecure funded by the hated Licence Tax
Surely you are wrong. The government said they put in £3 billion pounds into NHS dentistry last year, that is ca £250,000 per practice. There must be an abundance of practices offering NHS treatment. But then am I missing something? I live in Norfolk, maybe it is just Norfolk where NHS dentists have dried up since Covid.
@@zlmdragon. the problem is most damage is done teen/pre-teen or early 20's when most of us are not as concerned about health and generally believe we are immune... so once you start on the path of treatment thats a life long thing.. and even if you look after your healthy teeth going forwards, the work you had done before needs constant work going forwards.. Thats why NHS likes to pull teeth out.
@@malcolmabram2957No dentists accepting new NHS patients in Leicestershire,Lincolnshire, Rutland or Cambridgeshire either. This has being going on longer than covid effects. My dentist left due to Brexit as did the other NHS dentist in the practice so they went wholly private. Not had a dentist for 5 years now.
@margaret-yr6uh insurance would be better, we simply can't afford to pay for all the jobless the left wing imported / created in the country in their desperate bid for power
If you are not registered with an NHS dentist and go regularly you will be thrown off the list. The waiting lists are closed everywhere I have tried. I need 4 teeth out. I got some antibiotics via an emergency appointment with a NHS dentist. He gave me antibiotics for infection but refused remove the teeth once the infection had cleared up. They want us all to pay privately. If you can't afford it, tough luck. That is what this country has come to. If I were younger and in better health I would emmigrate. We need to stop all foreign aid and invest in NHS Dentists. Your own countries population and it's health should come first.
Do you think it will be better or worse next year when ANOTHER 300 thousand immigrants come here? What about in 2025 when the next 300k arrive and then in 2026 when the next 300k arrive. Do you think it will get better or worse. Come on now think REALLY hard about it.
Agree Samantha, not only are there no NHS dentists accepting new patients in my county, there are no dentists in the adjoining 3 counties. I haven’t been able to get an appointment for 5 years. This country is on it’s knees and it’s got sod all to do with immigrants, it’s because of this woeful government, even if we had zero immigration we would still have no NHS dentistry. Time to send the racists to Rwanda and kick the Tories out.
This is the problem - no money for healthcare but 8 million per day for hotels. 🤷♀️
@@Bandita2024 I'm talking about legal immigrants, which outnumber the boat people by 10 times. 300 thousand annually arrive here and are handed a visa and a benefits form. Over 25 years this has ruined Britain.
The UK Government and Parliamentary system needs the overhaul…… not the public services that have been gaslit for decades.
There is no mystery: if dentists treat patients on the NHS, they lose money because the state funding package does not cover their costs. Moreover, the NHS funded materials they would have to use are substandard and dentists hate using them, knowing that they will probably cause problems for the patients at some point.
I had two excellent dentists over the decades who just stopped doing NHS work for these reasons. Both my partner and I have had to resort to private dentistry for ages now (and we live in London).
Knowing that gum disease can lead to heart disease, this is a shockingly short-sighted attitude by the Government.
Cancer if the mouth and tongue are another thing that can be spotted.
@@cdean2789 Indeed!
I had no idea about the heart issue. Crazy. Maybe they want people to die on mass.
The bastards want us to die out anyway. Time to put the fear of God into them. Politically, that is.
The govt does not want to pay for it
out with the tories ffs
I’ve been with the same dentist for the past 35 years since I was a baby. Just last week received a letter telling me that they were no longer accepting any NHS patients and I’d need to sign up with them privately or go elsewhere. But no dentist in my town has been taking on new NHS patients for years. Its privatisation through the back door
Me too
Revolution coming! Lol
I had been with my dentist on the NHS for over 20yrs, that was until they went private. I’m disabled so can’t afford one now, my teeth have fallen into a terrible state and I can’t for the life of me find an NHS dentist.
I haven't had an NHS dentist in 11 years. The last time I saw one I was 18. It's not just disabled people who have this problem.
Yes . No NHS dentist for me for twenty years
@@nrclever8167 how have you managed.
It is a stupid situation that dentistry and optometry are primarily privatised. Does the general populations health not rely on people being able to eat a healthy diet or being able to see things? Ludicrous
.. yes, but the problem is these dentists want to earn a lot of money from their profession. They go through dental school.. highly skilled and frankly, dont want to earn an average salary. Understandable.. but the problem is the money just isn't with the client.. i.e. the general public.. to pay these rates. Dentists are leaving the NHS because NHS cannot afford to pay the high rates they want.
@@joecater894 Because the Tories aren't properly funding it! If a dentist has to perform multiple fillings, they get paid for 1 band 2 treatment, eg, they get the same pay for 1 extraction or filling as for 10 in one go. I eventually found a dentist who would take an NHS patient, 2 extractions and 2 fillings, it took 4 appointments, not efficient and not the best quality of care whn you have to keep waiting a week for each step, but I can't blame the dentist as she would essentially be paying for part of my treatment herself if se done them all in one appointment! This surely prolongs any backlog too!
@@joecater894dentists like any members of other professions want to be paid adequately.
Dentistry is stressful, entrails long hours and requires constant updating. Modern dentistry is expensive because equipment, staff and indemnity cost a small fortune. It will take 30 minutes to even place a small filling but doing it to a high standard. Why would a dentist want to do that for an average wage?
NHS dentistry is light years behind. It would simply cost the NHS too much to properly fund modern treatment.
That is why general healthcare is prioritised and dentistry is forgotten.
@@BBrunswick not average wage.. no. But the amount being charged is frankly unsustainable.. like i say , health of nation.. ways and means must be found to get the price down to an affordable level. The average salary for UK NHS dentist is around 55k, which seems very reasonable for a professional. Some of those salaries go well over 100k. I'm not against someone making money.. people should be able to make good money. But the problem is still... UK needs affordable dentistry by whatever means.. In poland for example.. all procedures are a fraction of the cost of the UK. They are obviously using the same energy and materials.. yet there is a dramatic difference in cost going on..
Yes, but profits.
My dentist is leaving but the practice is having trouble recruiting a replacement NHS dentist.
There's literally no slots for NHS dental patients i've been on a waiting list for 7 years and still nothing!!
Try getting Dental care in America. Even with insurance it's outrageous! I'm a Middle class America and I cannot afford Dental care . I feel for these people 😕
How much is it and how little is your income tax?? The issue with the uk is people pay higher rates of tax for the nhs then are not allowed to use it. The America system is fairer. Atleast you do not have to pay twice like we do.
@@robertjones2053 Try coming to America and get some dental work done ..then we will talk . I said I can feel for these people . I am just comparing the American system . And no it's not fair . We pay for dental insurance and it hardly covers anything besides yearly cleanings . Come here get a root canal or a bridge and see what I mean . It will literally cost you thousands.
I don’t think we have dentists here in the UK they are out of reach for ordinary citizens
@@margaret-yr6uhWhy don’t they accept NHS patients then???
@@margaret-yr6uh 🤦♂️
Whether it's a private or NHS dentist, I don't mind either way. However, it really annoys me that most dental practices require you to be registered as their patient before they offer any services. I'm fine with getting a scale and polish privately, but I don't want to go through the process of registering. Even the staff has mentioned that it's okay if I don't want to be registered, but they still insist on taking an x-ray for the scale and polish. It feels like they're only focused on making money.
That's cos they are only interested in profit plain and simple
I've seen 2 emergency dentist's in the last 3 weeks and both didn't do what needed to be done I've been in pain for weeks noone is taken on has I've been in the list for years waiting for a NHS dentist my teeth was perfect up until 2 years ago when I suffered some trauma and now grind my teeth in my sleep. Trying to get the right treatment and help is near impossible.
Biggest advice I can give you is get a plastic retainer. You can take the impression yourself and send off for them. The idea is you grind the retainer down and not your teeth. It's the same as the invisaline treatment but instead of straightening your teeth you just wear it as your teeth currently are.
@@robertjones2053 thank you, I'm waiting on delivery of one and I'm eating garlic for the pain which is working.
Go to the dentists in person and explain your problem, they find you harder to reject face to face. (Also overstate your pain, ham it up a little and use your worst day as your example)
@@lightskitty I'll try that thank you.
This is shocking! Britain has a dental industry? Who knew?
Filthy! 😝
Don't get your information from Austin Powers. Britain's dental quality is one of the highest in the world. Google it if you doubt me.
@@jdb47games Only if you can get an appointment and even then you have to consider if you can afford it without missing out on food and heating.
My dentist went fully private last year and ditched all NHS patients. On the bright side, when you go in now, while getting your teeth checked, you can also get botox, hair removal and a boob job. I look fabulous now but on reflection, the F cup was a bit much for a man in his late 40's
British have brown teeth and gum disease precisely because of dental neglect. Third world country where y’all can pay for your visitors hotels whilst your people walking like crack heads.
UK has dentists?? 🤨
Greedy bastards.. yes
Not NHS ones
Oh look, another Yank pushing the 'Brits with bad teeth' stereotype
This had all been put into plan by 2018/2019, well before the Con scam started. I can vouch for that because of what happened to me, when I was also removed from the patient list without any explanation whatsoever.
For four years, I desperately tried to find another NHS dentist to get urgently needed treatment, but was told by every practice I contacted that their patient lists were full. In desperation and agony, I ended up opting to pay for private treatment, and had most of my teeth removed so that I wouldn't need dental treatment anymore. I'm 72, so dentures are just fine.
I fear that the government have done away with NHS dental treatment by stealth. It is symptomatic of their neoliberalist approach to the economy. If you cannot afford to get what you need, or even to survive, then tough.
@@dc6807 BS. What would you do if you had a child in much pain and you cannot get treatment on the NHS? Go and troll someone with the same pathetic attitude as yourself.
@@dc6807when people with very little money have to do this it always impacts their quality of life elsewhere, borrowing money, eating poorly or very little, reducing their social life, buying poorer quality food for pets, intentionally neglecting themselves to save money. It's not an easy choice or option.
@@dc6807You are very fast to jump to conclusions! I understood that the poster wanted to save her own teeth but still could not afford to do that treatment privately when she needed it. So had to go down the dentures route as cheaper in the long term. Also nobody knows what financial situation she was in at the start or how she found the money later. Maybe her family left home so she could live in cheaper property? Maybe a family member died and left her some small amount that she could spend on her teeth. Maybe she sold her car as retired so didn't need it to get to work......
@@dc6807 it's not free anyway. I've paid £200+ a few times. Which would have been about 2 days earnings. And same with eye tests. Those are inexpensive but even having existing spectacles reglazed cost around £90 a pair. We could say Britain is the country of low pay. About a third of my low pay is NI tax and pension. Rent where I live is £1.5k to £2k for a one bed flat. Or £700 to rent a single room with limited use of other facilities. The county is run by the Upper class who gives the best jobs to their own family and friends. Maybe this is you? People with degrees are often doing jobs which used to be done by school leavers 40 years ago. The pay is still low all the same. There's even professionals like some teachers using food banks. So how do you propose they pay maybe 1/12 of their income soley on dental care? Rob a bank?
Fact is until private practices have to take a set number of means tested nhs patients this will always be a problem.
How much does it cost for the hospital visits, doctors appointments, mental health issues, days off work, painkillers, antibiotics that could lead to resistance, emergency surgery for people who are close to dying, drug overdoses, liver and kidney damage, kids missing education, malnutrition and possible oral cancer being missed? There needs to be an investigation into how many people have died or been left damaged for life.
The whole reason I am ill is because of the nhs. I’ve been given every medication under the sun when I just need dental care. Apparently I’m just mentally ill though. I can’t make eye contact with anybody and I hear voices in my head. Do you know how heartbreaking it is to be told to go to Turkey when you can see all the equipment and people that can save you right in front of you. My entire personality has been destroyed. I’m broken on the inside and out. This comment will also come to nothing just like every other time I’ve begged for help.
Just don't give up trying.
Could you perhaps contact a Dentist College to ask if they could help. There are a few Dentist Colleges in the U.K who work on patients and at least it does not mean going to Turkey.
Wishing you Good Luck.
Go back to your GP he has to send you to Guys in London if your mental health is affected by your dental issues, or it would be considered neglect. Anyone can get sepsis from tooth infection.
@@mauracassidy1762 I have asked many times over the years and they say I don’t meet the criteria. I have even gotten doctors to write letters on my behalf. I really don’t know what to do.
@@samantha392 I have gotten my GP to write letters on my behalf with no success at all. It really is like talking to a brick wall. I’ve asked for help so many times, the constant repeating of my life story for the past years has made it almost impossible to keep asking. Every time I get a no or ignored it crushes my spirit. I really think I’m going to be like this forever
The private dental health needs an overhaul. It has become so corrupt money comes before care .
Money is the root canal of all evil
My dentist drives a Ferrari
How? Communism. What a stupid statement
Decimation of NHS dental treatment availability under 13 years of tory government?
Surprise Surprise.
Still only 20,000 people watched this.
People need to get more into this. Dental health is so important.
I had a root canal done two days ago, indescribable pain the couple of days beforehand - my heart goes out to her. Nerve pain is no joke!
My private dentist closed down. I had tried to get on a national health dentist but they were not taking on any new patients!
Yes. We shouldn’t be made to suffer like this! It’s inhumane, and she’s right, the psychological effects are crushing.
The worst dental care system in UK due to multiple reasons. We can't even go to foriegn country to get it fixed for growing children because you have to go for following up every few weeks and if the intial brace is done elsewhere no dentists will follow up.
Rich country UK but no dental care system, forced to pay thousands of £ privately which would have costed very little in India. The system in India (Private) and even in countries like Colombia is so good you can get the service done next day for a very reasonable affordable price.
It is shameful that the UK has so many homeless and using food banks. People are paying extortionate rent for places that are dilapidated mouldy and leak. And huge bills on top. Of course people can't afford huge dental bills. And yet migrants still come thinking this is the good life.
My dentist took me off their list during Covid and now I still have no dentist. Disgusting. The whole thing needs a full overhaul.
Same for me, they refuse to take me back and I can't register anywhere else in London, given up a long time ago
@@HUYI1Same here, both NHS dentists in my practice left because of Brexit (one Spanish, the other polish). Practice decided to go wholly private. No practices accept new NHS patients in my county, the same in the 3 neighbouring counties. The UK is in a doom spiral.
I'm sure Charly 111 would love to help you people he's got so much money!!
It takes weeks for a dentist's appointment in uk and it only takes 3 hours on a plane to Turkey and for a fraction of the UK price and back home same day everything is manipulated in the UK health care system has gone to pot
I lived in America for a couple of decades. Even many our private dentists (outside London) are decades behind 😡
Taking a flight to turkey and back and doing your dental work there is cheaper than doing it privately in the UK lol
What about the price of a ticket there and back? No thanks
Bucket full of badly done crowns and life long regret. You have no come back, don’t speak the language. In other you are f***rd
@@dc6807 funny I must have only seen the bad and the ugly. Poor margins, teeth cut down to stumps, decay not treated, crowns without contact areas to other crowns.
@@BBrunswick this guy is going through all the comments defending his cash caw UK dentistry lol. + yup it's only you. I've had 2 root canals there. Everything was perfect.
@@HUYI1It's not that expensive if you get your tickets and book everything a few months in advance.
I fell and smashed two front teeth in 2020 and only got it properly fixed this year as I'd moved city and was in a place with a teaching dental hospital where students did the work and they were wonderful but due to such a long waiting list it was almost a year before my appointment. However it was awful having no treatment for so long.
I should say that I had A and E treatment when it happened but what I was left with was considered cosmetic not emergency, but after being left it again became an emergency.
They won’t treat it as emergency . They would not give you the proper one .
The state of British people's teeth is beyond comical.
Don't get your information from Austin Powers. Britain's dental quality is one of the highest in the world. Google it if you doubt me.
Are you surprised? Dentists in the UK have higher salaries than plastic surgeons. No NHS is available, though the government like to say how it’s such a good system - but in reality nobody is able to access it - they still putting poison in people’s teeth here despite mercury being banned in most other countries. It’s all about the money and if you not got a few thousand pounds to hand, better believe there isn’t any hope or help for you.
So if he has a dentist who was NHS... then has a private dentist?
I have been trying to get an appointment for ages, I spent the day ringing round almost every dentist in the area trying to look for an NHS dentist since last year. I'm in severe pain because of abscesses and toothache but even pleading on the NHS 111 line didn't even get me an emergency appointment. I pulled a tooth at the beginning of the year as there was no other option
@@marje6088 I tried before had they just fobbed me off, but thank you I will give them another go
you should also investigate my dentist company , A SCAMMING COMPANY . FREE DENTAL SUFFERING FROM SUB STANDARDS work . we do not have any dentist .
I love how he's dodging the actual questions
I have a recurring abscess (due to badly executed root canal) and there is no NHS dentist anywhere round here. The last time it flared up, I called the doctor (who I have never seen in person in 4 years of being signed up) as it needs antibiotics to clear. The doctor said I must see a dentist, I explained I can't afford non-NHS dentistry, she said she couldn't do anything. No help at all. I ended up in A&E where they used to this, bless them. They were horribly overstretched, but amazing and after 6 hours or so, issued the antibiotics and morphine for the pain. This country is sinking under decades-long anti-humane governance.
Antibitoics is not the correct treatment and is the reason it keeps flaring up.
@@Traumerei- What would you suggest?
@@headgirlblues the options are either re-root canal treatment which is extremely unlikely to be offered on the NHS and will usually be done by a specialist or extraction.
@@Traumerei- Thanks - though it was re-done some years ago, but still the abscess returns once a year or so. Antibiotics clear the immediate infection (preventing spreading and taking down the swelling and resultant pain) ......until the next time. In common with others, I now have a stash ready to preclude bothering the hospital next time. There are many of us out here forming our own - imperfect, but crucial - responses to the widening gaps in medical/dental treatments. We would prefer fully-viable systems, of course.
I think it's cheaper outside the UK anyway, you might find one in the same EU like Portugal, Spain, Turkey..the best dental products belong to Dentaid company, Spain but if you go further to America or nearby maybe while you are in holidays?
Turkey? 😂😂😂 Good luck
When things go pear shaped who do call? Ghostbusters?
I try to visit Spain once a year, I'm half Spanish anyway, and see a dentist there. I pay less than €40 for a check-up and some small jobs, and I can usually get an appointment for the same day.
@@MsBimbobear good for you. Spain is in the EU - you will have some come back if things go pear shaped. But when you have tooth ache - where do you go then?
@@fnma21 Some of the most advanced hospitals in the world ranked:
1. El Camino Hospital - Mountain View, California
2. Fortis Memorial Research Institute - Gurgaon, India
3. Johns Hopkins Hospital - Baltimore, Maryland
4. Anadolu Medical Center - Kocaeli, Turkey
5. Palomar Medical Center - Escondido, California
6. Bumrungrad International Hospital - Bangkok, Thailand
7. Mayo Clinic Cancer Center - Arizona, Florida, Minnesota
8. Clemenceau Medical Center - Beirut, Lebanon
9. Gleneagles Medical Center - Tanglin, Singapore
10. Asklepios Klinik Barmbek - Hamburg, Germany
Places like John Hopkins and Stanford actually collaborate with Hospitals in places like Turkey, Thailand etc. You'' be getting way better care than in the UK. It depends how rich you are but if you can afford it you'll be getting the best care in the world if you can get into one of those top 10 hospitals. Private care in a hospital in Turkey is going to be a lot better than standard NHS care in a standard NHS hospital. www.bestcolleges.com/healthcare/most-technologically-advanced-hospitals-in-the-world/
PS Ross Perot the great American said you being in all branches of the Miltary as a full scale operator Triage Tents in every big city and treat our Citazens likes it a war zone . From Dental to health care ..nothing was ever done
Considering Canadians laugh about "British Teeth" you might !😮
I needed a root canal treatment 6 months into ‘covid’ which required a specialist. I waited 13 months for the actual root canal treatment surgery day when half way into the surgery the dentist told me the treatment will not be possible due to further decay and tht i now need a extraction. To this day i dont have a appointment for the tooth extraction which requires a ‘specialiest’ im now in turkey and im going to have it removed in 1 visit to the dentist. I feel let down by the nhs. If i paid for private this could have been avoided.
The UK system is shockingly bad & has been so for aa long as anyone can remember. When I first lived in the UK as an exchange student in the 90s, I mentioned the dental issues my British friends experienced to my dental hygienist back in Canada, and she told me that the worst teeth she had ever seen in patients were Brits. It ought to be fully funded IMHO. People's health & wellbeing should be the #1 priority.
I am a British person living in Canada for 6 years. British dentistry is god awful, on its knees in terms of waiting lists. But I wouldn't brag about Canadian dentistry either. Basic check-ups cost an arm and a leg, lord help you if you need a procedure and your benefits don't cover it. Both systems in the UK and Canada need a serious re-organisation.
If you aren’t willing to pay additional tax, you don’t deserve dental care. Simple really.
@@CraigTheBrute-co3ysIf you make comments like that you're clearly an immature child incapable of critical thought, but you carry on sonshine. Simple really😮
@@CraigTheBrute-co3ys What if you aren't able to because of a massive cost of livng crisis? I hope you go broke and end up with severe toothache! Sure you can just yank it with pliers yourself without anaesthetic! What is the point in being a part of a social structure, like society, if it doesn't provide you with any kind of benefit? Be as well dropping out and becoming more antisocial at that point!
@@dc6807 everyone wants free stuff. Free stuff is lovely. I want free stuff. Can you give me your house, your car & your wife?
The lack of dental, and healthcare all across Europe is the new normal.
Not much to complain in Benelux
@@margaret-yr6uh investment in medical devices and infrastructure is lowest among OECD countries probably something to do about it
Luckily my mate is a dentist.. If I have any little problems, he always sorts it out.. Free of charge.
He must be good, lucky you sexynelson
Bupa is closing 85 practices 2 have closed in my area.
Good to see that the government still don’t care at all, even slightly
I know one woman who pulled her own tooth with pliers, because she couldnt afford treatment. When I expressed horror she told me she "bought new pliers". This is UK 2023.
6 weeks for a doctors appointment, no NHS dentists at all yet taxes don't go down the tories are running services down this what people should be on the streets marching about
I live in Yorkshire and you CANNOT get an NHS dentist.
The waiting list is about 8-10 years.
Even if you put yourself on that list there is no guarantee that you will actually get seen.
You can get to see a dentist if you use the emergency number but they will send you miles away.
The dentist will also rush you and only do basic work because the money simply isn't there.
I went with BUPA one time and had to pay an amazing amount of money to get work done. All the guy did was reglue a post/crown thing (False tooth on a spike). Not even 10 mins work, £450.
Hospitals should also have a dental unit on the grounds and it should be set up to do ALL basic work.
Nothing special... Fillings, extractions and emergency work (From an accident or whatever) only.
That unit should be open to ANYONE that turns up. First come, first served.
I wouldn't mind if they charged NHS prices. I would pay that!
This would free up local dentists to be able to do regular check-ups because people will be able to pay for those.
I wonder if it would be possible for the NHS to train up dentists for a set fee (Or free?) BUT.... All trainee dentists HAVE to sign a contract to stay inside the NHS and do ONLY NHS work for X amount of time. (5 years maybe?) and be paid a reasonable amount of money by the NHS while doing it. They would then be placed in certain clinics/hospitals all around the country and would do local NHS work ONLY.
This is not an unreasonable contract because lots of industries use this method to pay for apprenticeships. Why can the medical field not do it?
Oh yeah, I had toothache, it was excruciating and I struggled to find a dentist, I was using WAAAAY more benzocaine than I should, withparacetamol, ibuprofen A/nd a tea made from poppies growing in my garden (morphine, plant is legal, tea is definitely not!) This was barely enough to enable me to eat on one side of my mouth and to sleep! I was VERY fortunate to find a dentist a half hour away who agreed to take the case as I was getting near the stage of prying two wisdom teeth up with a flat head and yanking them with pliers! I am also fortunate to have avoided any unpleasant withdrawals from all of the morphine I was using in order to suppress the pain enough to function! Getting those two extractions and 2 fillings has made a world of difference! I was scared I'd be stuck with that pain!
My teeth ( which could be saved with a filling) are just rotting and falling out. My Austrian brother-in -law could NOT believe that in UK I can't get a dentist. UK is a disgrace.
he just blames Labour
6 months I have been waiting for an appointment for a broken tooth...
Ran a 100% NHS practice for 15 years in an inner city area. Paid all staff the union recommended wage, complied with all regulations (which all had a large cost e.g sterilisation, insurances, radiation equipment maintenance and inspection etc etc etc), met all overheads which are many and expensive…I could go on. As someone from a working class background and seeing my Father made redundant when I was 14…I will always champion the NHS….but the truth is that if you try and run a NHS practice and rely solely on NHS fees….you will struggle to make a living for you and your family. I now work as an Academic.
Dentists in the UK are too expensive.
Yes it does, I remember a time when the dentist used to do a clean on your teeth during a check up. Now they refer you to a dental hygienist @ and extra cost. I can't believe they charge £25 for a 10 minute check up!
They need more NHS discount too for ppl 🙄💯 too expensive prices and per tooth
Don't worry. I'm sure there are literally hundreds of dentists coming across in dinghies every day.
The other hundreds are all neurosurgeons or highly trained engineers.
I had to travel to an Asian country.teeth fixed great,no pain and even after travel costs cheaper than UK
Where did you go?
@@tRicky198181 ph
@@tRicky198181 ph
Philippines
@@whiteonggoy7009 cheers
dental industry is not bad, it's disgusting 🤮🤮🤮🤮, health care in the UK is primitive and degrading, i couldn't fix my dental problem with thousands of pounds but i traveled to a country that is under heavy sanctions in middle east and fixed my dental issues with only £15.00 in a matter of less than an hour. British people are under illusion that they are living in a modern country. i am waiting for a scan for my back pain for many years despite massive amount of taxes we are paying.
Recently I had a awful experience with private dental practice. Two of my tooth were incorrectly treated. And the manager of the practice and another doctor refused to take the responsibility and said that it was my fault when the piece of filling had detached just under their eyes. That’s completely okay they said 😢 Another of my fillings have been lasting for years which had been placed my doctor back home and they’re perfect. Such a shame !
Just before covid I had a appointment, then lockdowns hit. Aterwards they told me because i missed the appointment (even though they were shut) i'd been removed from the surgery. Noone locally is taking on new patients at the moment. Whole waiting room was fighting aged pakistani men in adidas gear, all speaking their own tongue. The receptionist, once a british woman, was either Batman or a woman in a full Hijab, (im guessing it was the woman option). And she could barely speak english, pointed to a sign in arabic. I had to use a google app to translate it to "we no taking new patients." Went to three in my area, all three had no english people in. I might have to go private.
I had a NHS dentist up until about 3 months ago. He left and now I don't have anyone I can see. Private dentist is to expensive for me
You can see dentists, but only if you go private. The dental surgeries have no rules, the dental practice manager makes decision whether to take new patience or not and obviously private is more profitable for them. Remember in UK we have to pay twice for everything, Energy, NHS, Dentist, Pension, ... and receive no services.
I think you’ll find that from the top down the entire UK needs an overhaul.
put Canada ON THE LIST IT'S HIGH TEA TIME FOR US TO DO IT OUR SELFS DENTIST.SOUND SO BAD FOR THE LORDS AND LADIES OF THE DENTAL PROF ESSION PLEASE FOLKS REACH DEEP INTO YOUR POCKETS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO MISS THE NEW SPORTS CAR A COUPLE OF HOLIDAYS BOY THEY SURE LIVE IN A SMALLL BLACK TINY HOLE MUST BE HARD ON THE TINY MIND
I'm confused is he part of the government or not?
The problem is that private dentists cost a fortune!
dental cares are outrageously expensive. I am grateful to have private dental care.
The answer is not the existing contract or capitation. The only system that works is fee per item.Double the NHS fees and a slow return will start.
I live in Scotland and never had any problem getting a dentist even during lockdown.
Went private was the best decision I ever made ! It’s expensive I couldn’t really afford it but it was worth every penny. All I’m going to say is , when you pay for treatment you get the best possible outcome .
No one should get poor treatment.
@@lat1419 no one should but the nhs can’t cope anymore it’s falling apart ! All I’m saying is if the treatment they provide is not up to par or non existent, then pay for treatment . It seems nowadays people love to moan & complain but not actually do much about it! Like if the nhs is not an option go private ! Don’t stand around moaning about it . If they hurt that bad you would pay to have them removed ..
@@jordancasey3051 I see life through a different lens. I run a food aid charity in the UK. People who cant afford food. Or to put the cooker on. These people just cant afford dental care.
@@lat1419 Lool I’m poor myself but if you really need something you find a away of paying for it ! Please don’t try and emotionally sway people ! Majority of people in this country are struggling ! If the government made it easier for dentists to accept nhs patients but they don’t ! You can’t blame dentists for not wanting to accept nhs patients because they are being paid peanuts ! But at the same time if your teeth are rotting and are in pain don’t sit around for years complaining about it do something about it . We should be grateful we still have the nhs even if it’s not up to par !
@@jordancasey3051 I have watched free dentistry, free Eye care, and now in my part of the UK free surgery disappear. How about we blame the Tories, who have decimated health care and living standards too? I'm not trying emotional blackmail. We should all understand that access to dental care is expensive, in a country with 14m people living in poverty?
Media’s a bit slow asking this question
Same in Scotland.
The dental industry doesn't need an overhaul, they just need to pay dentists more for NHS work. How are they struggling with this?
Dentist registration should be linked to doing a set number of NHS treatments per year.
I have to travel 50 miles because that’s my nearest wheelchair accessible NHS dentist.
Be grateful you have one. I have tried for 11 years to see a dentist and you are moaning about a 50 mile round trip twice a year. I would take that over 11 years of ringing up. Queuing outside etc.
overhaul usually means force conditions on dentists that they wont accept, its lack of funding and infrastructure that causes the issue, trying to force demands on dentists will just result in the few we have upping and leaving to countries that appreciate them more.
It was labour that detached dentists from the NHS by saying they need to pay up front to then claim back the costs with receipts like a tax refund. Now they’re proposing a long winded approach to amend this when they should just reabsorb dentists in NHS funding.
Never seems to be a shortage of Porsches in dentist car parks, it’s not the patients driving them either.
Crabs. Buckets.
The stereotype of the rich dentist. If only
Look in my car park and you'll see my 20 year old Subaru, pal!
My family has a dentist but they won't see us unless we pay. And others don't take on new NHS patients. I don't see what is the point. I have a dentist but don't really. It's infuriating what is this government doing about this? Is this a 3rd world country or what. Not everybody can afford Bupa. I am very angry about this. Kids go without checkups....just madness.
I resulted going abroad for treatment with my kids and also invested in quality tooth brushes, water pick and interdental brushes because as it stands NOBODY will help you in the UK. Make a deal with dentists and pay them accordingly ffs. If gum desease can lead to heart problems then this nation might be in deep trouble. Frankly i think politicians dont care about little people. Very bad indeed.🤬🤬🤬
Private dentistry is way too overpriced even a checkup can be nearly £100 just to talk to them for a half hour or so, bad dental hygeniene is a serious health risk not only physically but mentally, this is exactly why people mock us as a country for people having bad teeth, costs hundreds of pounds just to get a tooth pulled let alone more intricate surgury, teeth should be treated like any other injury is in hospital, we pay taxes for healthcare
I've found that once you have pulled the painful tooth out the gum with flushing heals within a couple of weeks. It's at this point that a wooden peg can be glued into place. A hard wood peg such as Oak or Ash works best using a two part epoxy resin to hold the wooden tooth in place. Hey presto perfect nashers. 👍
My last dental visit was brilliant 🤙🏻 I guess a free service is not so good 🙌🏻
Ive just finished a detailed dental care package from my NHS dentist.. She stated she wont be offering me such treatment on the N.H.S ever again.
This country is the worst, I always go abroad to treat my teeth
Some dental pains can feel as though your head is splitting in two.
There should be a rule that post qualification, any new dentists must remain in the NHS for a period of 5 years. For continuous professional development (CPD) and to prevent exodus. Mind you, this should be the same rule for GP’s, consults and nurses. Soon as many of these professionals get qualified, they put simply their services out to tender to the highest bidder (normally private 😢). Furthermore, much of the education has been subsidised by the tax payer 🤦♂️
MPs probably putting there private dental cost as expenses
Can't get an NHS dentist anywhere in Leicestershire either.
Even having an nhs dentist I have to pay and it’s now getting a dentist I’ve had to go abroad to have teeth pulled out I had 2 taken out it cost me 16 euros and there are dentists everywhere and it’s cheap and the treatment is better than here that’s for
I’m going to need more work done this year not being able to afford a dentist
This is outrageous. I have been calling for emergency dentist and I cant get any. For private practice, I need to make a deposit first for £110 so I can make it on the list and mind you, it's not the same day. It's 5 days after. It makes us think that this dentist are greedy
3:12 they still haven’t done it and we’re halfway through 2024
Simple soloution any business refusing to accept NHS customers then they should be refused any and all gov contracts in future and any future NHS customers too there u go NHS should create its own dentist premises specifically for NHS only
I've just spent about £500 for clean and 2 fillings because there's no NHS dentists. I want a refund on my tax
I visit the dentist ,not to be put under interrogation
Dental surgery is a mess all people under the nhs get rubbish dentists who haven’t even got half way through there dental courses and not getting the correct work done and treatment that a basic human deserves it’s appalling I was in the dentist for three hours because of someone who hadn’t a clue
There are about 12000 dental practises in the UK. The government said they 'poured in' £3 biilion into dental surgeries last year. That is about £250,000 per practice, more than enough to support NHS dentists. Moreover, why should Brexit be blamed? I have no issue with overseas dentists working in the UK with a Visa. My family were kicked out of our local NHS dentist which we attended for over 20 years. Earlier this year I had to pay over £500 for my daughter to have a tooth extracted at a private dentist, money I can ill afford. She was in a lot of pain. The whole consultancy/extraction process was done in less than 3 weeks at a private dentist Something is very wrong. Dental help is easily available, if you can afford it that is. I suspect the government have affectively done away with NHS dental treatment by stealth (it was easily available in Norfolk, where I live, before Covid). My big fear is that the NHS itself is next.
GPs and dentists need to be paid by the appointment, and each appointment needs to be paid at a rate of £10 standard charge + £2 per minute of the appointment
The standard charge for dentists in the nhs is £25. For each visit. The government then pay on top of that. You only get it for free if you're younger than 18yo or on some benefits.
Then what would be the incentive to see more patients or work efficiently? May as we’ll see 2 patients in the morning and 2 in the afternoon, with some nice brew breaks between them
For GPs that would be rather sensible. Which is why it ain’t happening.
@@HCRS95 at the moment, what happens is that the GP practises are paid per patient on thier list per year.
(I have kind of assumed that dentists are paid in the same/similar way)
@@HCRS95 well, I suppose the standard charge rewards seeing more patients, and the 2 pounds a minute compensates against the desire to see as many as you can without concern for quality