@@madmarc Im glad, credit where cred is due. I am actually going to check out a 2006 DRZ 400 S with 6500 miles and listed at around $6K. What price would you pay for the bike?
@@CBW0314 That sounds way too high. For a little more you can get a new one. I paid less than half that for my bike and it had about 3,100 miles on it.
I have a 2017S and would like to convert. Trying to educate myself on best options. Most of my riding is paved or occasionally a packed trail, fire road etc. Keep hearing how a SM conversion can cover light off road and and have a lot more fun on winding paved roads. Only concern is whether or not the S front fork suspension is applicable for 17/17 rims. Also keep reading of swing arm change, rotor, sprocket, anti wobble dampening steering system etc. Then there are those that say get a basic 17/17 swap setup and all is great. More I watch the video I catch more detail. Great Job!
If you get stock 17" wheels that came off a factory DRZ400SM they will be a direct replacement to your S forks/swingarm. No need for new forks/swingarm, or anything else really. You can even keep the same rotors and sprocket. The S and SM hubs are identical. If you decide to get the oversized front rotor (310mm) like I did in my video, then you'll need an adapter. The only other things you should consider replacing for the stock SM parts are the speedo drive that attaches to the front wheel so you can get an accurate speedometer reading, and then a shorter kickstand.
Hey mad marc, Haha without narration it's one of the clearer conversion vids I've watched, kudos to you mate nice work! Q for you: I'm researching the conversion of an Australian street legal DRZ400E to an SM using Talon Hubs. What speedo drive did you use? Did you just replace the stock 'S' speedo drive with a new stock 'SM' drive? or what did you use? If you used a stock SM drive does the speedo read correctly OK out of the box? Cheers, Richard
Thanks Nicholas. I got the tank graphics here: www.ebay.com/itm/173883635143 And the airbox graphics from factory effex. I emailed revans@factoryeffex.com and asked for Evo 11 airbox graphics. They also made me the small decals on the rear fender.
@@madmarc That's what we all say lol, 3x3 , jet kit , slip on and stock header is what I ended up with not too loud or annoying but still kept the stock pipe because keeping things quiet is very underrated ! Nice conversion and attention to detail.
@@PlanetOwner Thank for the compliment! I did the 3x3 and jet kit which helped a bit. But if I was going to put any more money into performance it would be for an e-model carb and camshaft. The S/SM carb gives a delayed throttle response which is my main complaint about the performance.
Thanks man, the front fender is an Cycra universal sumo fender, and the rear fender is the 400E fender (cause you cant find after market S/SM fender) and the air scoops & side panels are stock S/SM plastics, and wheels are oem SM.
Hey man I've got one of those aftetmarket tanks on my S model rn. Do you know if graphics kits like yours would work with the aftermarket tank instead of the smaller stock one? Looking to pimp the DRZ out too!
You mean like a big Clarke or Acerbis tank? Or do you mean a tank with the air scoops integrated in them like this IMS tank? jamesfolberth.org/images/moto/2018/2018_04_15_installing_IMS_tank_Devol_radiator_guards/IMG_20180422_091609_resize.jpg If it uses the stock air scoops than yes they will work, but if it's like that IMS tank than I don't think so. But if you get graphics for a plastic tank make sure they are perforated so they don't bubble up. Good luck with the pimpin out!
Whats up. Nice Video! And Nice Bike! How did you make your rear suspension (shock) so stiff and tall. I just bought a 2004 Suzuki DRZ400S and rear is VERY Squishy. Can you give me some help pls. Ty
Thanks Ed, It's a Motomaster rotor and caliper bracket. 310mm. the model I'm using I think is discontinued, but they make an updated version. The graphics are from ebay. I have a link in another comment somewhere.
Great question! The more careful viewers may notice that the fender you see me drilling and installing at the beginning of the video is not the same one that's installed in the "reveal" at the end. The first fender in the video is the standard universal SM fender made by Acerbis that most people use on their conversions. But I didn't like it at all-- it was too short and angular. So I kept searching online til I came across a universal SM fender from Cycra, and that's what you see at the end of the video and which I ended up going with.
@@finnbarwalsh37 No, I got it from Cycra's website, but later on when I went back to the site I could no longer find it in yellow. I emailed them and they said to call them. I would give it a shot. I feel like it's the most classy looking SM fender you can get.
Thanks Abel- The wheels are from a 400SM, I found them on craigslist. No special spacers needed, just an SM speedo drive to get the speed to read correctly.
Hey Pavol, It's exactly one inch. I measures from the base to the pin where the spring hooks onto. The S stand was 10" and the SM stand was 9". I feel like it leans too much though. If I were you I would cut off 3/4" and try that first.
Thank you VitaminLee! All you need to do if you use stock SM wheels is switch to an SM speedo drive. The existing cable and everything else works normally. I'm thinking about doing an FAQ video on this build to make it more clear for others who are doing conversions.
Hi, I was wondering what is the difference of a "for plastic graphics vs a for metal" on? I have an acerbis plastic tank and I just ordered this graphics, but now I don't know if the tank will affect the graphics to stay on it.
The difference is that the graphics for the plastic tank are perforated with little holes so that they dont bubble up cause by the fuel in the tank. If he sends you the non perforated graphics they would last long. Message him quickly and say you have a plastic tank.
Thanks Scott, I appreciate the feedback. But it's not meant to be a how-to video as much as it is a sit-back-and-enjoy-type video. But if you're having questions about the conversion I can try to help.
Hi bro so nice Convert to SM Can you plz tell me where did u buy the front Brake disk large one, and the brake caliper SPACER? If you can share me the web site appriciate
I'm running stock size tires (140/70-17 rear) and there is no rubbing. But I heard that you should be safe running a 150 also. maybe it's a rim offset problem?
What wheels did you use for the conversion. I want street wheels and tires on my drz400 but don’t know which ones to go with. Would appreciate the help !
@@haedenbrezsko7548 Yes, they use the same hubs so they bolt up no problem! But if you get a larger rotor you'll also need an adapter. See the other comments for more info.
I bought it from the Cycra website but I don't see it there anymore. It's still sold at other sites, but not in yellow. See: www.revzilla.com/dirt-bike/cycra-factory-supermoto-front-fender
I know some aftermarket hubs wont work with the stock speedo because they don't have that notch to turn the gear. I don't know about the Talons though... If not, one option is to install a Trailtech display.
mad marc Hey mate, One more question, I’m having difficulty finding a front caliber bracket. What brand is yours and where did you get it from? Cheers!
I think this is the same one I have: www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Master-Front-Brake-Caliper-Relocation-Bracket-for-Kawasaki-KDX200-1995-2003/333528263907?fits=Model%3ADRZ400&epid=15009304899&hash=item4da7d56ce3:g:lacAAOSwxBNeVvr3
Hey TJ: I got the shroud graphics on ebay, the airbox graphics from factory effex, and then factory effex also custom made me the small suzuki and 400 decals for the rear fender. I can give you more detail if you need.
@@madmarc HI, I was wondering what is the difference of a "for plastic graphics vs a for metal" on? I have an acerbis plastic tank and I just ordered this graphics, but now I don't know if the tank will affect the graphics to stay on it.
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When I think of all the work and detail that you put into the bike, And then realize what it takes to get it on video I'm amazed.
Absolutely beautiful SM conversion man! It's a crime that you don't have more subscribers.
Thank you!! Your comment really made my day 😁
Oh my lordy lord, this is what I needed to see. Super clean build and videography and editing 11/10
Thanks man, your comment made my morning.
@@madmarc Im glad, credit where cred is due. I am actually going to check out a 2006 DRZ 400 S with 6500 miles and listed at around $6K. What price would you pay for the bike?
@@CBW0314 That sounds way too high. For a little more you can get a new one. I paid less than half that for my bike and it had about 3,100 miles on it.
I have a 2017S and would like to convert. Trying to educate myself on best options. Most of my riding is paved or occasionally a packed trail, fire road etc. Keep hearing how a SM conversion can cover light off road and and have a lot more fun on winding paved roads. Only concern is whether or not the S front fork suspension is applicable for 17/17 rims. Also keep reading of swing arm change, rotor, sprocket, anti wobble dampening steering system etc. Then there are those that say get a basic 17/17 swap setup and all is great.
More I watch the video I catch more detail. Great Job!
If you get stock 17" wheels that came off a factory DRZ400SM they will be a direct replacement to your S forks/swingarm. No need for new forks/swingarm, or anything else really. You can even keep the same rotors and sprocket. The S and SM hubs are identical. If you decide to get the oversized front rotor (310mm) like I did in my video, then you'll need an adapter. The only other things you should consider replacing for the stock SM parts are the speedo drive that attaches to the front wheel so you can get an accurate speedometer reading, and then a shorter kickstand.
@@madmarc Great advice Thank you
Killing the fly was the icing on the cake, great work with the decals. Cheers.
Thanks man, it was a mosquito, or as my friend described it a flysquito, but I don't know if it died, it may have lived to leech another day.
das a beast.
i cant believe you still got that green bag
I've had it since highschool, at least 15 years and still holding up
The video i have been looking for. Great build brother and thanks for the awesome video
Hey mad marc,
Haha without narration it's one of the clearer conversion vids I've watched, kudos to you mate nice work!
Q for you: I'm researching the conversion of an Australian street legal DRZ400E to an SM using Talon Hubs. What speedo drive did you use? Did you just replace the stock 'S' speedo drive with a new stock 'SM' drive? or what did you use? If you used a stock SM drive does the speedo read correctly OK out of the box?
Cheers,
Richard
Can’t wait to finish mine just looking for some cheap set of wheels.
man, i just got my excel wheel set! cant wait!!! cheers.
Hell yea man!
Hey, that's really cool! I love the classic black and yellow!
Thanks man, I appreciate it!
Bro that looks so good ❤️🖤👌
Thanks dude!
Only great videos/work from this dude!!
Hey David, thanks so much for that flattering comment!
sick video i want one a drz sm so bad
Right as fuck conversation dude. Great style
👍👍👍
Fantastic job man what a beauty 😍
This is nice man! Think you could leave links as to where you got your plastics and decals?
Thanks Nicholas. I got the tank graphics here: www.ebay.com/itm/173883635143
And the airbox graphics from factory effex. I emailed revans@factoryeffex.com and asked for Evo 11 airbox graphics. They also made me the small decals on the rear fender.
Beautiful
Drooling... are you gonna get a exhaust system and make that thing bark?
Thanks Ethan!! No plans to get a new pipe. I want to keep it quiet. plus they are too costly.
@@madmarc That's what we all say lol, 3x3 , jet kit , slip on and stock header is what I ended up with not too loud or annoying but still kept the stock pipe because keeping things quiet is very underrated ! Nice conversion and attention to detail.
@@PlanetOwner Thank for the compliment! I did the 3x3 and jet kit which helped a bit. But if I was going to put any more money into performance it would be for an e-model carb and camshaft. The S/SM carb gives a delayed throttle response which is my main complaint about the performance.
@@madmarc Carb is the best bang for the buck , it will cost you in MPG but the response is night and day between the two.
Great work!
That’s sick, so all the plastics and wheels are just oem sm parts? Thanks in advance
Thanks man, the front fender is an Cycra universal sumo fender, and the rear fender is the 400E fender (cause you cant find after market S/SM fender) and the air scoops & side panels are stock S/SM plastics, and wheels are oem SM.
Did you leave the suspension alone or did you do anything different to the forks and shocks?
I left them alone
Awesome video! Where did you get the front caliper bracket for the 320mm rotor?
Thanks for the compliment! The caliper bracket and rotor are both Moto-Master products. But I actually snagged them off craigslist.
bad ass!
Hey man I've got one of those aftetmarket tanks on my S model rn. Do you know if graphics kits like yours would work with the aftermarket tank instead of the smaller stock one? Looking to pimp the DRZ out too!
You mean like a big Clarke or Acerbis tank? Or do you mean a tank with the air scoops integrated in them like this IMS tank? jamesfolberth.org/images/moto/2018/2018_04_15_installing_IMS_tank_Devol_radiator_guards/IMG_20180422_091609_resize.jpg
If it uses the stock air scoops than yes they will work, but if it's like that IMS tank than I don't think so. But if you get graphics for a plastic tank make sure they are perforated so they don't bubble up. Good luck with the pimpin out!
@@madmarc Thanks man that answered my question I appreciate it!
Whats up. Nice Video! And Nice Bike! How did you make your rear suspension (shock) so stiff and tall. I just bought a 2004 Suzuki DRZ400S and rear is VERY Squishy. Can you give me some help pls. Ty
Sounds like the shock needs a rebuild. Probably has no nitrogen in the bladder. Is it leaking oil?
@@madmarc ty for the reply. The bike only has 7000miles and is not leaking oil.
@@cardososm2035 post a video of the problem
@@madmarc right now the bike is in the shop to change the back tire, its completely shot. I will try to do it tommorow.
Nice vid and music
What brake caliper bracket did you put on this? Also I'm wondering what graphics kit you used, it looks really clean.
Thanks Ed,
It's a Motomaster rotor and caliper bracket. 310mm. the model I'm using I think is discontinued, but they make an updated version.
The graphics are from ebay. I have a link in another comment somewhere.
Sweet!
Beautiful conversion... what’s the front fender?
Great question! The more careful viewers may notice that the fender you see me drilling and installing at the beginning of the video is not the same one that's installed in the "reveal" at the end. The first fender in the video is the standard universal SM fender made by Acerbis that most people use on their conversions. But I didn't like it at all-- it was too short and angular. So I kept searching online til I came across a universal SM fender from Cycra, and that's what you see at the end of the video and which I ended up going with.
mad marc very nice one, it looks better indeed
@@madmarcgreat looking fender I can’t seem to find any in yellow, did you paint yours?
@@finnbarwalsh37 No, I got it from Cycra's website, but later on when I went back to the site I could no longer find it in yellow. I emailed them and they said to call them. I would give it a shot. I feel like it's the most classy looking SM fender you can get.
@@madmarc Thanks mate appreciate it, and ur right definitely is a great looking fender
That's so sick dude I'm about to do the same to my DRZ . Are you happy with the conversation?
o yea, it's a ton of fun!
Supper clean where those wheels come from ? And the spacer
Thanks Abel- The wheels are from a 400SM, I found them on craigslist. No special spacers needed, just an SM speedo drive to get the speed to read correctly.
@@madmarc you are mad Marc, thanks G I'm a pick one up tomorrow and eventually gonna Do this
Hi Marc, nice conversion. What's the length difference of the kickstands? I have an S an would like to shorten it to SM length. Thanks!
Thanks Pavol, It's about an inch but ill measure and confirm in a bit
Hey Pavol, It's exactly one inch. I measures from the base to the pin where the spring hooks onto. The S stand was 10" and the SM stand was 9".
I feel like it leans too much though. If I were you I would cut off 3/4" and try that first.
Very nice build! What part did you use to make the speedo work?
Thank you VitaminLee! All you need to do if you use stock SM wheels is switch to an SM speedo drive. The existing cable and everything else works normally.
I'm thinking about doing an FAQ video on this build to make it more clear for others who are doing conversions.
mad marc thank you! Mine are excell wheels. I’m going to try that. See if it works for me too. Thank you!
Where did you get the decal kit?
Nice job btw
Thanks Craig, I have the links below in responses to some other comments
Hi, Nice build!!! Can you tell me where you buy this graphics kits i want the same^^? Thanks!
Thanks AbdelKader, I've posted links to the graphics under other comments.
Any upgrades done to it besides the wheels? Like calibers? Sprocket, or disc?
Just the front disc. I think in phase two I'll upgrade the front caliper, larger rear disc, and maybe steel brake lines.
Can you share a link with the bracket for your front brake caliper
Got them from Craigslist. Check the Moto Master website
You had to get a new speedo to make it fit on the SM wheels?
No, not to make it fit, but to get an accurate reading. The gear has a different number of teeth to compensate for the smaller wheel.
Hello! Which is better drz400S or drz400sm?
It's the same bike, just different wheels. Dirt vs. Street.
I have an option to buy 2006 s model with upgraded Update suspension carburetor and exhaust f for 3500 vs 2017 fully stock M model 4500. Which one
probably the one thats in better condition and lower miles
Hi, I was wondering what is the difference of a "for plastic graphics vs a for metal" on? I have an acerbis plastic tank and I just ordered this graphics, but now I don't know if the tank will affect the graphics to stay on it.
The difference is that the graphics for the plastic tank are perforated with little holes so that they dont bubble up cause by the fuel in the tank. If he sends you the non perforated graphics they would last long. Message him quickly and say you have a plastic tank.
Little more dialogue and guidance would help with regard to sprocket, chain, steering dampener, speedo, etc
Thanks Scott, I appreciate the feedback. But it's not meant to be a how-to video as much as it is a sit-back-and-enjoy-type video. But if you're having questions about the conversion I can try to help.
Like he owes you something.
Hi bro so nice Convert to SM
Can you plz tell me where did u buy the front Brake disk large one, and the brake caliper SPACER?
If you can share me the web site appriciate
Thanks Imran: I got them from craigslist, but you can find them here: www.moto-master.com/
whats the difference in seat height going from S wheels to SM?
Not sure, maybe a couple inches. You can probably calculate it if you look up tire diameters for mx wheels versus SM wheels.
I have a question, does your chain rub your rear tire? I recently converted my s to a sm and I’m running a 150 tire
I'm running stock size tires (140/70-17 rear) and there is no rubbing. But I heard that you should be safe running a 150 also. maybe it's a rim offset problem?
Do you have any pictures of the mounts needed for the metal tank to fit?
The metal tank is a stock S/SM tank, so it uses stock mounts. For that matter so did the oversized plastic Clark tank. Nothing special there.
Wr426 supermoto build please
What wheels did you use for the conversion. I want street wheels and tires on my drz400 but don’t know which ones to go with. Would appreciate the help !
I got the stock wheels from a drz400SM.
@@madmarc so they bolt straight up ? Perfect, thank you !!
@@haedenbrezsko7548 Yes, they use the same hubs so they bolt up no problem! But if you get a larger rotor you'll also need an adapter. See the other comments for more info.
@@madmarc awesome, thanks once again for the help
I have been looks for fork boots like those do you have a link bye any chance
Hey Sure Riley: www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/tusk-neoprene-seal-guards-p
What are the names or what are the front shock absorber protectors? Any link?
They are Tusk fork socks. Get the long ones! www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/tusk-neoprene-seal-guards-p
wheres some videos of you riding it
ask and ye shall receive: th-cam.com/video/7LF35mxxZZg/w-d-xo.html
Where did you get the OEM graphics kit?
Ebay, I posted a link somewhere in another comment.
Where do you buy that front fender?
I bought it from the Cycra website but I don't see it there anymore. It's still sold at other sites, but not in yellow. See: www.revzilla.com/dirt-bike/cycra-factory-supermoto-front-fender
Do you need to change the size of the front rotor
You can keep the original one, that'll work fine.
What did you do with the wheel speed sensor? I bought a drz used and my speed it way off, like at least 6 mph
Is it a conversion, S->SM, or SM->S ? If it is you'll need to get the stock speedo drive for what the bike was converted to
@@madmarc There's no telling. I believe the frame is off a drz400E
What year tank is that? Would it fit on my 2002 drz400?
The tank is a stock drz tank. 06, like the bike, but it should fit any year DRZ S or SM
Wow man nice job 😑
mines done but final touch will be 5050 tires
let's see it.
...just read further down, you used a stock SM speedo drive. Cheers.
I know some aftermarket hubs wont work with the stock speedo because they don't have that notch to turn the gear. I don't know about the Talons though... If not, one option is to install a Trailtech display.
mad marc Hey mate, One more question, I’m having difficulty finding a front caliber bracket. What brand is yours and where did you get it from?
Cheers!
@@richardrobb8217 The caliper bracket and rotor are made by MotoMaster. I found them on Craigslist.
I think this is the same one I have: www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Master-Front-Brake-Caliper-Relocation-Bracket-for-Kawasaki-KDX200-1995-2003/333528263907?fits=Model%3ADRZ400&epid=15009304899&hash=item4da7d56ce3:g:lacAAOSwxBNeVvr3
what rims did you use
I used the stock Excels off an SM
Should have left the bigger gas tank on so u could ride longer
never really felt the need to. not a long distance adv bike in any case.
@@madmarc still doubles the range. 2.2 is a very small gas tank on any bike
I would like to do the same job on mine, which rims have you adapted?
Hey Robi: Those are stock wheels off a drz400sm
I changed mine from an sm to an s
What skid plate is on your bike?
hyde
Where did you get the decal kit?
Hey TJ: I got the shroud graphics on ebay, the airbox graphics from factory effex, and then factory effex also custom made me the small suzuki and 400 decals for the rear fender. I can give you more detail if you need.
mad marc send me the link for the decals when it’s convenient for you. It’s ridiculous how few OEM style options are available.
@@tankkessinger1703 i know, right! took forever to find something stock-looking: www.ebay.com/itm/173883635143
@@madmarc HI, I was wondering what is the difference of a "for plastic graphics vs a for metal" on? I have an acerbis plastic tank and I just ordered this graphics, but now I don't know if the tank will affect the graphics to stay on it.