2022 Chevy Silverado 2500 6.6L Gas || 2 Major Advantages GM Has Over Ford/RAM Towing Fifth Wheels!
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- I finally had a chance to hook my fifth wheel up to a 2022 Chevy Silverado 2500 LTZ Midnight Edition! Check out some of the squat, measurements, and towing features GM provides for their HD's! || LIKE || SUBSCRIBE || SHARE ||
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2022 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 LTZ Midnight 6.6L Gas Crew Cab
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Excellent reviews and comparisons, appreciate the fact that you show the sticker price many do not.
Hey JB, another nice video. I still have my 2017 RAM 3500 Limited, Mega Cab SRW Cummins Aisin. I have no fancy cameras which take more time to figure out. I would have been hitched up and gone by the time I figured out which cameras to watch. I can turn my head and look out my rear window to see my 5th wheel pin box slide onto my Reese 20K 5th wheel hitch, bam, connected and on the toad. I am pulling a 2018 3560RL Legacy Montana and it tows like a dream, all within weights. I don't really care about 'cool' looking tires, etc., as I prefer function over glitz. However, my package looks like a million bucks rolling down the road. I love your videos my friend, as you are always chasing the next best thing to come out. All the best to you and your family. Happy RVing!
Great review! Your comments are spot on with numbers and facts. Thanks for turning 90 degree comment with Reese Goosebox. I have 22 2500 AT4 6.6 gasser that I tow Jayco 30.5 CKTS 5th wheel at 11,000 lb. With B&W companion hitch set up with the extra 2" of clearance (flipped triangle brackets) I still can't turn 90 degrees. I'm sure it's due to camper design, so not all 5th wheels will allow 90 degree turn. Towing, I get 9.5 mpg at 67 mph on flat Michigan and Indiana roads (10+ mpg in Indiana due to better & smoother roads). I'm not full time, so daily driver it's a great truck and around town is 13-14, interstate at 75 mph is about 17 in good weather. Winter mpg, about 15 on the highway. I added K&N cold air intake, it makes a big difference in response and drive ability. I made a you tube video showing the dyno run from K&N, but have yet to make a driving video. When I bought the truck I was hung up on the lack of 10 speed, but have found thst to be a non issue, and actually the 6 speed better handles engine braking, if you call that an actual feature with a gas engine. Perhaps the 10 speed helps mpg. People will find out in 2024 when 10 speed in gasser becomes available.
Love it. I have a 2020 Silverado 2500 HD High Country Diesel. Best truck I've owned so far. I've had Fords Rams Sierras.
Great review JB! "As I've gotten older" I like quiet comfortable rides over the loud aggressive tires! However, if I'm going off road much at all, bring on the monster tires!
Man I gotta say, you really are making me want to get one of these 6.6 gassers. I’m really hoping to be able to afford to get 2 trucks in the future. I really want one of these and a F350 7.3. I think you really can’t go wrong with either of the 2 trucks. Really looking at a tremor in the 350 as well. One thing I think I missed I this video was how the conventional towing number was only at 12,000lbs instead of the regular 14,500lbs. But either way it’ll pull the TT that I am currently looking at getting for my family to get into RVing. Which has a GVWR of 10k. Thanks again for all of these awesome videos man.
just subscribed and liked the video because you do such a good job talking about the things I care about. I've got a Ram 2500 Cummins with the air suspension and while it's great, it's not perfect, and I've been really tempted by the GM twins. Thanks for the review!
Guy goes to the dealer for a test drive then takes it to pull his trailer 😂
Thanks for the review. My 2012 2500hd is getting long in the tooth. I was planning to more or less replace it in kind. My dealer happens to be getting a 3500 SRW with otherwise the same specifications. I put a refundable deposit on it and plan to pull the trigger. Your review pretty much cements my feelings about the truck.
I’m adding a follow up post. The 3500hd was taken delivery of. So far it is very impressive. For a regular cab, there is more room behind the seat. Also the truck is a 3500 SRW, vs. 2500, simply because that was what was available. For a very heavy duty suspension, the truck rides like it came from the Cadillac Division.
Love your channel!! A price review and comparison would also make a difference when dealing with cost price differences VS fuel economy and maintenance costs differences.
Thanks 👍🏾
I’ve always enjoyed your content. Keep up the good work.
You should review old trucks / throw back videos, like 2003 Duramaxs and 5.9 Cummins for fun! Love the content keep it coming!
I’ve been thinking about this, just need to figure out the details of how I want to do the video 👍🏾
My set up. I love it
Mine didn’t come with the goose ball so had to manually install mine but the goose box makes night and day difference and plus you still have your bed
Been using it for about a year no regrets
My 2002 Chevy Silverado LS EXTENDED Cab, 8 ft box 2500hd 8.1L 496 c.u. with Allison
1000 trans is still the beast gasser going on 20 yrs, But it loves gas stations. LOL
Ordered my Chevy 2500 6.6 gasser on 9/9. It was finally put on production yesterday (12/13). 4-6 more weeks is the "guesstimate" lol.
I ordered my 2500 HD LTZ Midnight 6.6 gasser early June, it was built the week of 10/18, and I still don’t have it. Been waiting on “transportation” ever since.
Have a 2021 Denali 3500hd diesel. Fantastic truck. Best truck I’ve ever owned. ❤️🇺🇸
Awesome video! I’m extra excited with this one because my new truck will be delivered to the dealer tonight or in the morning. One of my friends seen it on the car carrier at a different dealer this evening!
Anyways, I want to thank you for FINALLY saying the GM trucks ride more level than Ram and Ford! I’ve been saying this for over a year now! That’s why they appear to squat more but the reality is they are very comparable to the other brands. In this case it was slightly less. Regardless though thanks for pointing this out now! That’s an awesome truck in this video. Those tires do look good and I much prefer the black 18s to the black 20s. The only downside is those tires for some reason limit the conventional towing capacity to 12,000 max, regardless if you get a diesel or a gas engine.
I wasn’t going to post this until next year but I moved it up the list and now glad I did lol!
Send me some pics for sure!
@@JB_WhoWork Lol. Me too. I will for sure. Once I sign and it’s really official I’ll send you the build sheet and then pictures once I get it.
Great video and information!
Another great review- thanks for the lesson 🍻
Thanks Ed 👍🏾
Very informative video, thanks!
Something to consider when looking at gasser 6.6. We are full timers and in April 2021 we upgraded to a crossroads cameo 3975CK 5thwheel. It has a gvw of 14500 with empty pin weight of 2250 lbs. Loaded with all tanks empty pin weight is 2735. In March I started looking for a truck and wanted gas for less cost and maintenance. I preferred a 1 ton single wheel but could not find one anywhere in US. Knowing the 3/4 ton is built the same (without helper springs and 1/2" smaller rear gear), I found a loaded 2021 LT Chevy crew with 10550 gvw and 3750 payload. So the numbers work but our first trip from PA to Florida was horrible. Major bucking and 55 mpg was highest speed without white knuckles. The Francis Scott Key bridge expansion joints lifted the rear wheels off the ground at 45 mpg, I Had to slow to 25 over the bridge. I feel the camper was driving the truck instead of truck pulling the camper. The Power is not an issue. 6.6 has awesome power. After getting to Florida I called a trailer export and to make things short he said the gasser does not have enough truck weight for the camper. I immediately went online and found a 2022 GMC 3/4 At4 crew diesel amazingly at msrp. 6000 miles later and serval same exact road trips; no bucking, extreme power, smooth pulling, not as much braking pressure, and any speed I set up to 75 I'm relaxed. Hard to explain how the diesel has 500 lb less payload but handles 100 x's better. Yes 100 x's better. I also have a 16000 lb dump trailer for our business and with 6 ton of stone the gasser performed comparable just lacked diesel Torque. I would not advise gasser for a 38 to 42ft 5thwheel over 12000 gvw. Only down side is the $15000 higher price tag.
Thank you for sharing this 👍🏾
Because the diesel has 800+ pounds of weight over the front axle than the gas. So it wont buck as much since there is more weight up front. The diesel also gets a higher GVWR. The option of the AT4 make it have less.
I’m pretty Sure you also exceeded your pin weight.
JB, thanks for all the great information. Where can I find the towing spreadsheet featured in this video? God bless
When it comes to 2500’s you are correct. GM does a very nice job. Before I decided on Ram, GM was the leader in the club house but the more I drove it, the less I liked it. Not really sure why, but the Ram just felt right. Thanks for the video JB.
Yea I’m liking the Chevy but hoping the interior improves. I love my RAM though lol!!! Thanks David 🙏🏾
@@JB_WhoWork I liked the GMC Denali and AT4 but something for me didn’t feel right. My buddy loves his but towing he thinks the Ram is pretty damn good. Keep those videos rolling.
I just bought a 2023 GMC Sierra 2500hd. Loving it so far… got the work truck version so it’s everything I need without the fancy features
Great review, thanks
*Parking Brake*
Good review, i bought the diesel version of this truck and love it
I have a 2022 2500 HD regular cab 2 wheel drive with 6.6 gas and it's a beast
Awesome video sir! Can’t wait to get mine!
Thanks, you and Matthew Anderson are getting new HD’s!
Also watch what you plug into that 110 volt outlet..I plugged my makita battery charger and dealer said that's too much draw on truck..they told me it's for phone chargers🤦♂️I laughed and said I thought that was what usb's were for..of course no answer for that
Hauling comfort is more important along with trucks ability is most important thing so, bigger is better when it comes to that. Awesome review JB.
Those are facts and why I’ve been eyeing duallys more often lately 👀. Thanks Ric 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork I have also been eyeing dually also.
GM needs to offer the 50 gal fuel tank from the factory like Dodge does. These titan tanks are expensive AF
They don't anymore buddy
Great information. Another home run review.
Thanks Luke 👍🏾
Outstanding review!!
Thanks!
I have a 2001 Silverado 2500 HD.
It does everything I need it to, but I sure do love the extra payload you get in your truck, plus the bells and whistles you have.
I carry a slide in truck camper.
It weighs fully loaded 1620.
There is a sticker in my glove compartment that actually says it can carry a 2680 lbs. Truck camper. Love the look of your truck.
Love your channel
Thanks brother 👍🏾👍🏾
I own this exact same truck, I took delivery on 10/16/21 and I'm very pleased with this truck.
I'm coming from a 14 GMC Sierra 1500 so to me it feels very similar but only bigger and better.
The truck is a joy to operate in every way. I've driven and towed with many different trucks over the years on my own and at work and if you plan to have a heavy trailer living on the back of this truck just get the diesel. Imo in any brand or any configuration a gasser will never haul a trailer like a diesel period. For me I don't haul everyday and the bulk of my miles are easy ones with the ability to haul whatever or plow with a real plow. For me I don't want to deal with extra maintenance, plugging in, injectors, extra noise, or hunting down the stations the have diesel fuel and most importantly 10k more.
This one I turn the key and go.
Diesel is always going to be better if truly working the truck but most people don't even need the extra torque they just want it to say that they have it.
The ride quality is really good especially with a load on.
It has plenty of power though its certainly not a tire burning machine as this is a big as heavy work truck with the interior and comfort of a Cadillac.
I put on a lot of miles on my trucks so for me I wouldn't want an overpowered engine that gets 6-8 mpg, imo the hp is set just right at a happy medium and I get between 12-15 mpg for the bulk of my driving with plenty of power.
The cab is well engineered, it's comfortable and extremely quiet which for me is a biggie to be able to really enjoy a podcast or while having an important phone call the person on the other end can't even tell I'm driving never mind driving a big as work truck. The multi-flex tailgate has been a big improvement for me over my last trucks, it's really handy. I love not having to deal with keys and I really enjoy all of the new technology from my 14 that these new trucks offer now. I put a 9'6" Fisher v-plow on mine and you can't hardly tell it's on there. The camera systems are excellent especially while hauling a trailer it gives you a birds eye view down the blind side when you are making a turn and with the front cam I can see my plow and line up perfectly while hooking up.
The crew cab has tons of space for cargo or the family.
So far I have no complaints at all, I like driving it so much I actually like going to work just so I can drive the truck lol.
I've put 5,000 miles on it so far and I have 0 complaints.
What’s your average mpg when towing and when not towing?
@@alb5tana
Honestly it really varies.
I've got as high as 19 mpg but average is 13-14 mpg. I live in Maine and the hills are all connected lol. If I lived where it was flat I bet I'd getting 14-17 all the time...
Towing a normal load not maxed out it would be in the neighborhood of 8 mpg average around here.
Great review this is where I am at I don't need the diesel but want a bigger breaks and hauling capabilites without paying the extra 10k I tow about 20 times a year and just want to feel a little more in control with a 2500 vs 1500 with loads
have the durry same everything
I want to tow a 5th wheel that is about 12,200 lbs dry. 14,500 GVWR. hitch weight is 2,230. It's 42 feet long. Technically all the numbers look fine, but I don't want to be unsafe. Is this truck going to work for me to tow periodically or do I need something lighter with the gas engine? I don't want a diesel as the truck will be my daily driver 95% of the time.
Looking at a 2022 crew cab Silverado 2500 gas. Says max towing on 5th wheel is over 16,500 lbs.
The truck knows theres a trailer. But its telling you there's no trailer profile. You either need to set a profile or use guess. The profile is created so that it remembers trailer settings, such as tire monitoring and trailer brake settings
Here's what i did. Put a stripe in front of ball and behind ball. Then put white line on centerline of trailer. Just line the lines up. Also i put a side camera on side of bed centered on ball. Backing up is so easy anyone can do it
Ok JB. I have been looking at getting a truck like this. Well maybe one that has the regular towing numbers of 14,500 and 16,600. But do you feel that one of these Chevy 2500HD with the 6.6 gas would tow a travel trailer with a GVWR of like 11,300lbs just fine? I know the trailer has a dry weight of 8,623 pounds. We wouldn’t really be putting a lot of stuff in the trailer. It is the East To West Silver Lake 31KBH. I really like the Ram trucks but I like the extra torque from the Chevy. If I could find one and actually afford to get it I’d love to get a F350 7.3 gas. But the Chevy has been a top contender for me for a while now.
Sheeesh. Really surprised by this review. I always thought you weren’t a fan of the current 6.6 gas setup
I don’t hate it but the advantages have nothing to do with the engine
Keeping you in my prayers🙏🏼 to lawd Jayzes that you get to the point faster and don’t keep rambling in all your future videos. 🙌🏼 🤞🏼👌🏼
I do know on all Chevys your turn signal flick will blink 3 time without and 6 times with tow/haul mode on.
Have a truck almost identical to this one. Currently in market for fifth wheel and wondered how you like the goose box and turning clearance?
That is so awesome. I am sold on this model also. I dig the spreadsheet. Where can I find that also??
I have that exact same truck. When you plugged the harness in it did recognize the trailer. The reason it didn't show on the screen is because you haven't built a profile for that trailer in the app yet. Notice the message on the screen say no trailer profile active. I have a profile built for my travel trailer, my boat and my utility trailer. Once you build a profile for the trailer anytime you plug a trailer up it will ask you which trailer is connected. Also note the decreased conventional towing capacity of 12K lbs. That is because it is limited due to those tires. I was not aware that having those tires would result in a decreased towing capacity, in fact those tires aren't even available on the 3500 because of that. I have the Duramax in my truck and you can imagine my disappointment when I got the truck home and checked the door sticker to find my conventional towing capacity is limited at 12K lbs. Ironically though my gooseneck/5th wheel capacity is 18,500 lbs. I started looking at the towing capacity chart in the owners manual and sure enough there is a * notation that says conventional towing capacity is limited by the off road tires. Why it doesn't affect the 5th wheel capacity is beyond me. I looked at another similarly equipped 2500 that did not have the off road tires and sure enough the conventional towing capacity of that truck matched the 5th wheel capacity of 18,500 lbs. I immediately replaced the tires and sold the Hankook tires. Now I know legally this does not increase the towing capacity by simply replacing the tires but knowing the truck is capable of much more with a proper load rated tire is peace of mind for me. I find it hard to believe in the stiff competition among the big 3 truck manufacturers that GM would install a tire that limits its towing capacity by 33%.
Great info! Last time I hooked up to a GM truck, it asked me if I wanted to setup trailer or if it was a guest trailer (can’t remember now). The trailer app is great but thanks for the info on the tires 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork no problem. Love your channel and honest in depth reviews. Keep up the great work.
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Should do the same comparison with your trailer on both and get a mpg then.
Damn solid advice: "They make a bigger truck for a reason."
Gotta love the Ford F150 commercial that comes on before this video starts! LMAO
Ford is busy advertising lol
Thanks for your videos! Wondering what kind of MPG I might be looking at with a 21 Silverado 2500HD with a 12,000lb GVWR fifth-wheel camper if you might have that information?
Dry 15-16 highway 12 city towing various from camper to camper and if driving grades or not
Tks JB
Which would u get diesel or gas I’m not sure about the def stuff
I would love to see the 6.6 HD Diesel compared.
it squated but looks perfectly level. the way its designed
I’ve owned Gm diesels since 2008 and the 22 have awe full seats!
I got rid of my '20 Denali 2500 for that very reason. Way too hard. Awful for road trips.
If I can ever find me a midnight edition 2500 at the right price/options/location - I am all over it!
Do I remember you saying that a certain package like towing can give you a 3500 frame on a 2500 ???
Great Video. I think I have changed my mind on the RAM truck because of your videos. Payload is always the question. What do you think is a comfortable buffer for payload. If a 5er is 2500 and family w/dogs is around 800, that is 3300 lbs. This truck is 3302 lbs. where does the max tongue weight come in? Am I missing something?
Thanks Kevin, you would want at least a payload of 3700#’s + for hitch and gear. This truck would work but it would be tight for comfort 👍🏾
My dogs love the space when the back seats are folded up, 1st time they've been able to just walk around in the crew cab
I just took delivery of my 22’ Cummins white/night package and I love it. However, you’re right they are sweet trucks, especially when they get that new interior.....wow. However, after owning several, I won’t do that independent front end again. The L5P is a great motor, but they are just too complicated compared to the Cummins. Love the Denali though. Hard decisions, but my mind is made up until they change that shitty front end.
PS. As much as we appreciate it, I sure as hell wouldn’t want a new truck after someone did one of these reviews.
Congrats!
That looks like a lot of fifth wheel for that 3/4 ton what’s the gvwr of that trailer?
17:16 AWESOME
Been hearing some interesting rumors about the gm 2023 HD’s. There doing the mid model update and there not only doing an esthetic update. But supposedly there bumping the power in the Dmax to 505Hp and 1085ft lbs 🤭. But we will see 🤷♂️. Also the gasser is getting the 10 speed “supposedly”
I really hope this will happen at least for the gasser. Not that I don’t like the 6speed tried and true. I think placing the 10 speed in the gasser will draw some 1500 owners to 2500 HD trucks.
I’ve heard the same rumor about the smack bump although the 10 speed behind the gasser is news to me. If they do that, they will really have a good Powertrain for people wanting to skip the diesel 👍🏾
What you heard about the power on the duramax is true for 2023 and the same for the 10 speed on the gas engine
@@gregorywieczorek4160 I think it would be cool. But I won’t believe anything till I see the official announcement 😂
It's true. I received the email directly from GM. The 10 speed transmission makes a big difference. I had a 2019 AT4 with the 6.2 and that 10 Speed transmission. That truck was fast. Only downside was bad gas mileage towing. Especially with have to use premium gas in the 6.2
Does that Reese goose box on your trailer void the warranty?
I know some of those goose boxes will because it changes the load on the front of the trailer and tends to cause them to crack on the bottom front welds.
Also I really like how you did the spreadsheet break down at the end of the video
The Reese GB keeps the Lippert warranty in tack and I added the spreadsheet in the description 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork that’s awesome!! Thanks for getting back to me about it
Great truck
I agree
Wish you had mAde a video actuality towing the fifth wheel -!: the RPM’s
On the trailering information sticker i see that max tongue weight (goose neck) is 2490 lbs max...does that mean that you cant go higher on pin weight for a fifth wheel ?
Yes/no, depending on how you load your truck, you may have to go lower on the gooseneck hitch weight. You can’t exceed the GVWR of the truck so once you add passengers, gear, and hitch weight you have to be within that number 👍🏾
GM should have brought back the 8.1. I loved my 03 3500. Even with an 11 foot dump box, I could walk new mustangs through intersections. Not any further than that, but still. That thing pulled as hard or harder than the same year diesels. Gas mileage was atrocious but you have to expect that in a dump body and hauling a trailer.
As others have mentioned, I don't know why GM and ram felt the need to have the tourqe come on at such high RPMs. Does the 7.3 in the Ford do that as well?
Thanks for all the reviews JB, I did the content and information
No...you wasn't walking any mustangs (even the turd ass 3v)🤣🤣🤣
Ya lets bring back a gas sucking pig when emissions and fuel prices are the focus of everyone and at an all time high.. I mean why the fuck didn't chevy come out with a 12L Big Block? jhc ...
The squat could be a good thing it lowers the center of gravity.
But those ranchers shocks are garbage I have them on my Silverado...
I don't know what happened to the bilsteins GM used to use..
This is true 👍🏾
I have the 21 half ton and was wondering about the fifth wheel you mentioned….dont they make an extension so the fifth wheel hitch is higher…
You can adjust it up when installing it so it sits level connected to the truck
Hi, just subscribed!
Thanks Kyle!
At least the midnight edition doesn’t make me 🤢. I love your optimism on this poor GM. It is the season for charity after all 😂
🤣🤣🤣 I try to see both sides 👍🏾
A dodge lover lmao that won’t last 100k miles
I got a 2019 2500 6.4 ram to pull a 5th wheel and travel full time. I think the biggest thing is understanding weight limits and load capacity. Another thing that sold me other than how amazing the truck is and how it pulls, is the lifetime warranty Ram offers. Peace of mind for sure!
No such thing🤓
I have the LT trim and don’t have electric mirrors
I do like the new gas 2500s but I have put 40,000 pounds behind my Cummins 2500. Pulling a 7% grade never dropped below 62mph. Totally stable and smooth but you do have to balance your load on your axles. I just can't see the gas truck replacing the diesel any time soon unless you are towing light.
Bahahahahaha! NOT!
I pull 80,000 pounds with my 6.6 gasser daily.
From a drivetrain perspective I think it’s still tight in the used market. To jump into this over my ‘18 Ram 2500 w the 6.4 is just a nonstarter given the market. Is the 6.6 GMC gasser better than the Ford 7.3? Probably not. Is it better than the 6.4 Hemi? Maybe? The Hemi is long in the tooth. I suspect the overall value comparison is actually pretty tricky when accounting for the various year-option combos. For new trucks, I suspect this gives the 7.3 some real competition. If I was buying today, I’m not sure I’d roll with the Hemi, which is still an interesting development imo.
Good feedback 👍🏾
Everyone I’ve talked to in the campgrounds here in AZ have been happy with the 6.6 gas over the old 6.0, so it’s definitely an improvement, I agree with most others that an 8 or 10 speed would put it pretty darn close to the Ford 7.3 in term of towing performance. Or give a 4.10 or 4.30 option for the axle ratio.
@@keithfranzen9209 I own a 6.6 gasser with about 23k miles on it. About 40% of those miles are towing near max. The engine is great but like you said an 8spd or 10spd with a 4.10 option needs to be in the lineup.
Also I’m a big advocate for 1 ton SRW vehicles. For $1250 more you get almost 1,000lbs of additional payload
@@TheRoeshow0324 I should have added the folks had campers in the 30-33 foot and 7K-8.5K range. With our heat and long climbs out of Phoenix into the Mountains most folks just go diesel with anything heavier than that.
GM's drive trains will out live any brand cuz they go through more rigorous testing during development..
Godzilla... laugh my butt off!!!
What kind of mpg dry weight
The trailer app was saying “No trailer profile” not no trailer.
I wonder how those hankooks would tow with a lot of weight on them. my hd has the standard goodyears but would love when they a worn to go with a more aggressive tire
I wish these were a little more aggressive in terms of size but I’m sure they would do fine 👍🏾
Yea all the gm trucks seem to have tiny tires on them
Old man Michilins! Nothing compares!
Go look at The Fast Lane results towing with the big gassers up the Ike Gauntlet. The Ford 7.3 BLOWS THE DOORS OFF of both Dodge and GM. Serious differences.
Hey JB. I just picked up my 2022Ram 3500 dually Laramie with the HO Cummins. Maybe we can link up, I'm about an hour away from Criswell.
Congrats bro! Send me your email
Definitely a nice truck..I'm not a fan of meaty tires as they definitely decrease in gas mileage
Have to agree on the looks chevrolet are the best looking
Good video
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Does GM have plans to put an HD 10 speed behind the 6.6 gas?
Yes, they do. Coming late 2023 as a 2024 model. 10 speed Allison in both diesel/gasser.
I am in the market for a 250/2500 to pull a travel trailer, which I have not purchased yet, or even know what I am going to buy. It will most likely be something in the 26-30 ft range. I want a truck that is a little overkill for what I am planning to pull just in case I want to go bigger. I guess my question really is, Silverado 2500 Gas over diesel? Your opinion? Or are there more factors I should be looking at? I'm new to the truck and trailer world.
Gas vs diesel depends on how you plan to travel. If you plan on doing a lot of traveling then go diesel but if you plan on doing trips within a couple hours and just doing weekend trips a few times a year, a gas would be fine. You may also have to think about where you live or plan to travel to because if you plan on going up/down grades, this may sway you to a diesel 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork Thanks for the insight. We plan to live in the trailer full time and pull around the US. This is going to be our retirement home for at least the first year of retirement. Definitely need a truck that we can trust to make the trek across the 50 states multiple times.
Diesel it is 👍🏾
I pull RVs across the country and have for 7 years. Traded my 2016 Ram 6.7 diesel, dually. Bought a 2019 Ram 2500 6.4 and I will NEVER go back to a diesel. The government regulations have killed diesel engines. I spend about $2,800 a year less running a gas vs diesel. $9,000 premium for the diesel engine. I can replace this gas motor for that price and guys that have made this switch before me are now over 300k miles on these 6.4 with ONLY regular maintenance. I use more fuel but, gas is cheaper, I don't buy fuel filters or DEF and it takes about 15 minutes for me to do a service on it for half the price of a service on a diesel truck. I tow a max weight of up to 13,000 lbs. I absolutely love the 6.4 Hemi. Keep them diesels, I'd rather save my money and work less. Hope this helps
Sure would be nice if they had a guide line integrated with the camera.
They do, probably didn’t show on camera well. 2020 they did not though
whats the dry weight
Hi JB, please share why @ 9:17
Geez got me thinking on that GM
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My only complaint with mine is I wish I would have waited for an LT instead of getting the CUSTOM trim level.
Why did you wish you got the LT over the Custom?
@@jw37910 It's just a little nicer. I do like the Custom in white. The black trim and accents go nice with it. I would have probably got a different color had I waited for an LT.
@@jerryturner252 ok thanks for your feedback. They're all way too expensive now no matter which trim level you get!
I bought a 2022 Silverado 2500 HD Midnight Edition a few weeks ago...the best choice compared with the competition.
Congrats bro 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork thank you
It take a little while to get use to the cameras.
Them tires are nice but not as good looking as my Achilles desert hawk mt those are some meaty tires makes those look like street tires and the ride noise isn't bad at all
After owning the exact same truck but GMC version and an AT4 for 2 months now, I'm not impressed at all with the pulling power of the 6.6 gas engine. I bought mine new and I was expecting much more. These trucks don't have jack for power down low. You have to rev the hell out of them and I only tow a 7x16 enclosed cargo trailer with mine every day with a max gross weight of only 7k lbs. I've never owned any truck that when towing that same trailer have to rev up to 4,000-4,500 rpms just to go up a very small incline say around 3 percent grade. I've owned 16 different pickup trucks in the past 25 years and this by far is the weakest 2500 gas truck that I've ever towed with. My old 6.0 2500 with 4.10's would destroy this new gas 6.6 in towing. The new 10spd gm transmissions are clunky shifting and even more clunky when shifting down into 1st gear again. I know. I also own a 2021 Sierra 1500 with the 6.2 and the 10speed. That truck sucks at towing as well mainly because of the only available 3.23 rear axle. Also the brakes are garbage on my 22 Sierra 2500. I've never had to press the brakes so hard on a brand new 2500 truck in my life. GM needs to simply add a real towing gear to these current 6 speed transmissions in the 2500. 4.10 would be perfect. And they need to re-tune the 6.6 engines to give more power under 3k rpms. That would make these 2500's much better. Adding the 10spd trans won't do it. It needs more rear axle ratio as well. 3.73 isn't enough.
Should have bought a diesel. You get what you pay for.
I got a 22 also , very disappointed,brakes such the steering is sloppy and the dealer says it's ok ,done with Chevy
@@patallison5192 Yeah these 6.6 2500's are sub par in my opinion. They don't do anything well. I swear to god that I feel like my 2015 GMC 1500 towed better than this 2022 2500. And got better fuel economy doing it too.
@@frankiearchuleta7931 I already came from the Diesel. Had 2016 Duramax that I traded in. Got tired of the insane maintenance cost of those trucks. Cost me $14k in parts labor for only 60k miles on the truck. No thanks. Those trucks are pieces of shit too.
All these responses further solidify my decision to keep driving my 2004 GMC 2500hd with the LLY. it's already been studded. Injectors done, tuned, liift pump, etc. Almost 300k miles and pulls its ass off. Sure, i don't have usb ports every 2 feet or a 36" TV in the dash with cameras, but I'd put it up against any of the shit GM is putting out nowadays.
I have The 6.6 liter gas eats oil like crazy
Does the truck have a leveling kit on it?
Nope, it just rides more level
So buy the gasser and regear.
Still ahead in maintenance costs and outlay for a diesel.
It's not that bad. Fuel filter every 15 thousand miles. It cost about 30-40 bucks. Takes less then 5 minutes to replace. Oil change us a little more and Def fluid adds on 40 bucks a year driving approximately 12000 miles a year.
Thats weird when you talked about the gear ratio, i have a 2019 2500 and it has 4.03 gears.
No it doesn’t.
When I was towing a 20' gooseneck horse trailer with 2 horses up a mountain with gas chevy 2500, engine screaming and a dump truck loaded with gravel passed me, chevy gasser had to go.
Same load on same mountain a couple months later with new Dodge 2500 diesel, pulled the mountain like it was nothing. Same results towing my 24' GN trailer with skid steer and attachments, not a comparison.
I live at the coast, see so many campers/5th wheels being towed around here with 1/2 and 3/4 ton trucks overloaded to the point of looking dangerous. The rear squatted, taking weight off the steer tires and with crosswinds they are fighting just to keep it on the road. Not to mention getting a heavy load stopped if trailer brakes fail.
Yea I cringe when I see a 3/4 ton pulling a big 3 axle toy hauler down the road… Once you start getting into those dry 15000#+ weights, you need to have a dually in your conversations 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork - Not even that heavy. I went to a dually a few years ago after towing horse trailer on the interstate, rear trailer tire exploded. That made me start thinking about towing heavy with a single rear wheel truck, how bad that could have been if the rear truck tire had exploded.
Good point
That thing is A maaazin
If you can go without all the extras. My 2021 chevy 2500 hd work truck long bed has a payload over 3600 lbs.
Nice!
My 21 Denali “short bed” has 3,840 pounds of payload