As a Canadian, I'm super happy and proud to have Sweden and Finland join the alliance. They are strong, democratic, peaceful, and free-market nations which share so much with everyone else in the West. It's time the free-world unites in mutual defense against naked aggression from large autocratic countries who have old world and outdated "spheres of influence" mentalities, not least of all that "might is right".
As an American, i get tears in my eyes thinking we could be closer partners with Sweden in facing this huge threat to freedom and democracy. I have always loved the Nordic countries (raised in the Norwegian Lutheran Church in America in the 1950's) and felt Sweden was the best of the best in terms of values. (Oh...and i drive a Volvo!).
So glad to have Sweden join NATO!!! Their contribution to air & naval security of the region comes as greatly welcome and important! The awesome Grippen!!! Might have known that Saab would be capable of super engineering and technology! Learned to drive at 13 yr old in a 60's model Saab three speed on the column. Great car in the snow of Maine as it was probably the first front-wheel drive auto in the US!? Engine weight over the drive tires, SMART! And speaking of smart, indeed a country of only 10M has accomplished much, given the opportunity to have done so! World Class!!!
I love Sweden, my girlfriend is from Sweden and she now lives in the UK with me. When I stayed in Sweden with her family its awesome to see how much of a well developed country Sweden is and being a frontline in innovation with such a small population. It truly is remarkable.
I swear, Turkey is one of the most difficult allies to deal with in NATO. They have great capabilities and control the canal into the Black Sea, but man they are problematic with lots of stuff usually tied to their leadership
@@zedbronson835 what are you talking about? Saab Gripen is a top quality 4th generation fighter jet that is in no way a "poor mans fighter". A F-16 cost around 64 million dollars (in 2021) and a Saab JAS39E/F Gripen cost around 85 million.
@@rubenrahnu4504 You can never compare F16 to gripen just look at the war record of F16, while the Grippen has not fought in any war. If and F16 and Grippen were to go head to head against one another I can assure you that the F16 would come out on top.
@@MikeSmith-cl4ix I mean Russia single handedly save Europe and the world from Nazi Germany. In Putin's mind he has the leeway and moral right to decide the fate if Europe because no country has endured as much suffering from Western Europe than Russia. Think of African Americans and slavery.
@@EBZ-bx7zc I guess I can see your point if you're trying to say that Putin is trying to exploit the ukrainians for personal gainbut he's going to end up getting a lot more Russians killed.
WERE a powerhouse.. that's what you should've said. Coz Volvo was sold to Gele. A Chinese company. Sweden is a dying country that strangely enough is doing quite well right now financially. but that won't last for long, if the country implodes from within. We have a huge immigrant crisis which has created a huge crime and violence crisis and we have an electrical crisis as well. But of course this lying huckster of finance minister won't mention that. Oh and what's more, part from the air force, and our five subs, Sweden barely has any armed forces. We used to have a great military force. We used to be one of the most militarised countries of the world. Then our naive, incompetent and morally bankrupt politicians decided that we didn't need to have any armed forces essentially. Yes! You heard me correctly, loud and clear. Our parlamentet decided, that over time, we should completely dismantle our entire armed forces. We now have ca 0-15 % left of what we had back in 1989 when our defence was the strongest. I say 0-15 % because some elements of the armed forces have been completely dismantled and thus seized to exist altogether. And this whole NATO debacle, isn't just something "you can have a dialogue about.." as this dishonest liar of a politician, put it. There's a growing scandal about to burst here in IKEA country.. and it just might cost this man, the prime minister and the social democrats party their jobs and governance over Sweden even before the elections in September this year.
The Swedes have a first class military, and they possess great technology. They excel at developing anti-tank wpns systems eg NLAW- developed with the UK. They are a very welcome addition to NATO indeed. Great to have the Swedes on board!
Yeah NLAW is a joint project. The Swedes are mostly responsible for the warhead with the UK being responsible for other stuff. Team MBT LAW UK provides components for the system, includes: Thales Air Defence (final assembly); BAE Systems Avionics (inertial measurement unit); NP Aerospace (plastic and composite mouldings); FR-HiTemp (control fins and actuators); Raytheon Systems (electronics assemblies); Skeldings (special purpose springs); Thales Missile Electronics (proximity fuze); MetalWeb; BAE Systems RO Defence; EPS Logistics Technology; Express Engineering; Portsmouth Aviation; ICI Nobel Enterprises; Leafield Engineering.[15] The missile's warhead is made in Switzerland by Saab Bofors Dynamics Switzerland Ltd.
@@PazuzuStalker it is made in the UK and was a joint project with both nations contributing like with many advanced weapons and machinery allies will joint together on projects so you have skill and knowledge and technology from participating countries also it helps there be a bigger more widely spread budget.
The Swedes are professionals, and disciplined, yet they think outside the box. They’ve only 10Mil souls, yet any country, including the superpowers, would think twice about attacking them. They’re unpredictable, which allowed them to get their sub inside the line of defenses and score direct hits on an American super carrier, which makes them very dangerous. The US has been leasing that sub and it’s sailors, trying develop a defense for that defeat ever since. They are a formidable military. Same with the Finns. We’re fortunate to have them join NATO.
To uphold the previous Swedish military doctrine of non alignment, a lot of effort was put in having a strong defense. For a long time Sweden had the worlds fourth largest and powerful air force. Sweden also had a very serious and far gone nuclear weapons program during the 60s and early 70s. The official story is that the program was ended because of shifting public opinion on nuclear weapons, partially because of events like the Vietnam War and the Cuban Missile Crisis. To this date a lot of information concerning the program remains classified. It therefore doesn't' seem entirely unthinkable that Sweden could have been a nuclear power at some point. Sweden is a country that both has the brains and the means to develop some of the most advanced equipment available...
The west had been arming terroriste organizations such as the zionnist land theft organization and anti Turkey pkk suicide attacks for dozens of years far before the septembre attacks and their support is not an extremly tiny minority no its an official and/or majority one..and even against Turkey who gave game changing Bayraktar drones to Ukraine..no doubt why u r called hypo 🤮 crites..WE hope that u keep ..ing UP each others up in Ukraine except innocent women children and I hope the turks leave that treaterous alliance now that they tested again n again your repeated treasons
The more the merrier! Welcome to NATO to both Sweden and Finland. I know Europe, Canada, and the United States have always valued your friendship and admired your culture and people, so this is awesome news. 💪
If they're NATO members or not, Sweden and Finland are undeniable part of Europe and nobody in Europe would deny them support. Ukraine already got more support than Putin expected. Sweden and Finland would get 10 times more.
I wouldn't go _that_ far. I think Ukraine is getting as much support as most countries can responsibly afford to give. Of course if it had been in NATO it would've gotten a no-fly zone and more direct support as well, but material support is always going to be restricted by economic and political factors.
@@VVayVVard Ukraine is getting as much support as politicians think their voters would accept. Most Europeans feel a lot closer to Sweden and Finland and would probably be willing to accept even more support. At least that's what I would expect.
@@VVayVVard Remember this: If Russia attacks Finland and Sweden, I'm going there to help. To also fight, once/ if they would train me & the need arises. 1.) I'm from Slovenia. NATO yes or no, they are our (close) family. I know Finland's values enough that I would feel comfortable committing to a military contract serving in their military. And I would not feel comfortable signing on with Ukraine, as of yet. Compared to Ukraine, I trust the Finnish system of governance and the Finns to be VERY competent in their military & societal organisation. I trust them enough to feel OK being led by their military & political leadership. And the farthest I've been exposed to a Finland personally is when one Finn came for Erasmus in my University classes. For a couple lessons only. ^^ 2.) Ukraine's state-system is a (half-competent) mess; politically, military-system-wise and corruption-wise (in their military, there are patches of Western-competent systems of leadership & patches of Soviet mentality and/ or general corruption/ incompetence; and these positions seem to be often in ideological disagreement/ clash of styles). Ukraine is still VERY effective compared to Russia, but very chaotic in their ground-up organization & as an outsider, weaving your way through their complex system; it's complicated. But it's still WAAAAAY better than Russia & Ukraine is winning because of it.
@@VVayVVard Unfortunately Ukraine was known long before the war even started to be a corrupted shithole to the rest of Europe. And it is still. I would not send money there unless i knew for a fact they would end up where intended. Sweden and Finland is a different story alltogether.
Stolt över att bli bestulen på din lön för att finansiera utländsk militär som använder symboler associerade med Nazism och tar med en känd Ukrainsk Waffen SS soldat till Kanadensiska parlamentet varvid han hyllas? Smidigt, verkar klokt att vara stolt över att bli lurad och rånad blind.
The west had been arming terroriste organizations such as the zionnist land theft organization and anti Turkey pkk suicide attacks for dozens of years far before the septembre attacks and their support is not an extremly tiny minority no its an official and/or majority one..and even against Turkey who gave game changing Bayraktar drones to Ukraine..no doubt why u r called hypo 🤮 crites..WE hope that u keep ..ing UP each others up in Ukraine except innocent women children and I hope the turks leave that treaterous alliance now that they tested again n again your repeated treasons
they did in the past until marketplace came and took over + how so win and appeal to voters -everything are from the past -20-40 years past -weapons ,tech ,all - That why sweden has now big amount of millioneers -grats to them and they will be the first to leave sweden when attacked
The fact that a swedish financial minister is capable if insightfully citing "the rust belt" and the its causes in reference to his own nation is inspiring more faith given to the potential success in thier NATO bid.
As a Swede its a bit comical because his own political party caused the rust belt in the first place. After the second wold war Sweden was in a perfect position with a fully working industry. We had all the opertunity in the world to become a economic superpower and we did for a while. But then Dambergs party wanted todo some social experiments in the 70a and 80s and we went into complete economic decline
Sweden has made well engineered military weapons for a long time. At one time no country could make an anti aircraft machine gun of the performance of the Swedish made Bofors 40mm. All combatants in WWII wanted it. It became the armament of choice of the US Navy shortly after the US joined the war.
@@costaet The Swedish military was ranked as the 5th strongest in the world in the early 1990's before the disarmament at the end of the Cold War. The Swedish military could always be re-armed.
As someone with swedish and finnish ancestors, I am very happy to have those both beloved countries in NATO. Realizing how close friends and allies Sweden and Finland are makes me satisfied
@@jakewalberg4177 Yeah you are. The US agitated via NATO and pushed and pushed. Putin is a maniac and might've attacked anyway but your current administratoin is basically the reason Russia attacked Ukraine. What kind of a "friend" forces another into a shaky so called alliance where one would be forced to defend Turkey of all crappy places? Tell me all about how Turkey views human rights? Google is 50% Ruski created; nuff said. Funny how you think my opinions are rule violations and yet I am the extremist. You have no connection to my country nor Finland. You're an uninformed US citizen (quelle surprise). Stay tf out of other countries. You want to do something useful then have a civil war and rid yourself of the crazy US left instead of screwing up the rest of the world. We're constantly tasked with having to clean up your foreign affairs. Educate yourself. There's no excuse anymore; you have a free and open internet too.
Well then, let me say as a Swede, that an age of Swedishness that started with the assassination of the PM Olof Palme and now culminated in us joining Nato. It is truly a dark day to be a Swede.
@@MrJimmyT I didn’t say it was? The more I talk about the situation with NATO supporters , the more I see that most of you have trouble comprehending simple statements yet believe they know what’s going on
I'm American and a military aviation nerd, and USAF vet, and I am so happy to have the Swedes and and Finns looking to join us in NATO. And the Saab Grippen is a deeply interesting platform. Obviously the US isn't going to buy them, but I wouldn't fault any other nation for buying them if they don't want to spend F-35 money, and I'm curious to see what the next generation Saab fighter ends up looking like, especially if Sweden joining leads to more tech sharing. Don't think I'm not also joyous for Finland homing too, but air power is special interest of mine so Sweden's Air Force is naturally going to draw my focus. The Finnish Army is just as intriguing for folks who nerd out about ground pounders, especially given the bruisings they've historically visited upon Russia/USSR.
Sweden ranks up there with Germany when it comes to expertise in creating weapons and military hardware. We just don't see it because they've been neutral for so long.
@@RandySnarsh Sweden helped everyone during WW2. Neutrality is not free and being a large country with small population in Europe in a high importance strategic area during the biggest wars the world have ever seen is not less then complicated. It requires extreme diplomatic abilities and maneuvers.
Congratulations, Sweden remembers the lesson ''DONT FIGHT WITH RUSSIA'' for a full 200 (from 1809) years much longer than United Europa only 77 years. Look like the lesson have to be repeated sadly we should have to pay the price for this F king piss contest.
Ukraines mindset is far better prepared since the last 8 years than the "peace spoiled" swedes. 2 centuries of neutrality and a self centered spoiled population has created a people believing that war is something of the past, or at least someone elses problem. Lets see if this is a much needed wake up call...
Russia can just vaporize them in a blink of an eye. Also, Zeleski stated yesterday and it was on BBC that up to 200 Ukrainians are killed in a day in East, so Russians are doing just fine. Only, according to the western media Ukraine is wining
Acting the way he did prior to the Nordic countries' NATO applications, Erdogan has shown that he is utterly unreliable! During the period before the application, Erdogan was repeatedly asked about his position on these applications by, among others the President of Finland, Swedish officials and the Secretary General of NATO, among others. He kept answering that he saw no obstacles to this on the part of Turkey. Once Finland's and Sweden's applications have been submitted, there are suddenly all sorts of serious objections. Erdogan apparently set a trap for the candidate countries. These have now ended up in a very dangerous situation, which Erdogan intends to use to his advantage A person with such an extremely lack of morals will never be trusted and definitely does not belong in any western co-operative organization! Will any other country dare to apply for membership in the future when despite all positive promises your application gets denied and gives your adversary a free card to invade?
Turks and their religions, and all pf this because Sweden has been nice to BOTH Turkish and Kurdish immigrants accepting hundreds of thousands of them on welfare programs. Only Social Democrats could come up with this mess 🤦🏼♂️
Erdogan is anti NATO, all NATO friendly officers in the Turkish army are in prison or living outside of Turkey as political refugees after Erdogan's fake coup d'état against his own government in 2016. He needs the NATO membership to protect him from Russia, other than that it has no value for his vision of Turkey becoming a new islamic fundementalist state where democracy and freedom means fuck all. Kick Turkey out of NATO back to Putin and Hitler where it belongs and replace them with real democracies like Finland and Sweden.
It wasn't the first time he changed his mind, secretly beating his meat at being in the center of attention. I for one will never visit turkey, along with many of the people I have talked to, because of the way women are being treated there, and because of erdogan. Who is probably the main problem.
It was a Swedish airforce Saab made Viggen fighter plane that holds the title of being the only aircraft ever to get a successful missile lock on a united states airforce supersonic Lockheed sr71 blackbird reconnaissance aircraft.... impressive!
To continue your story about the 3 viggen fighter planes: Also Escorting that airplane while it were having an engine failure in the Baltic sea to Germany while being traced by Soviet union. They were locked and loaded as they should. Hence missile locking unidentified plane until they identified that it was an US Lockheed sr 71 Blackbird. Took decades for those Viggen pilots to be recognised and treated as heroes as they are.
@@mattiaspaulrud These are not the same situation. Viggen has gotten "combat" radar lock on SR-71s. The one that was flying on one engine they photographed. "I remember that the SR-71 was flying at an altitude of 22.000m and a speed of Mach 2.9. Ulf had some difficulties coming back to earth - he actually reached the target’s altitude and passed the SR-71 head-on at the same altitude with some side separation, but suffered a high temperature engine stall!" Does that sound like the SR-71 on one engine? No it doesn't.
@@benghazi4216 I dont want to start some negativity here. ok. I have no intent to be negative at all. To clarify my own personal statement; I didn't say that SR-71 were on one engine. There are rather good documentaries from various countries and real interviews from those Viggen pilots themself where they themself tell the stories about this. I have nothing negative to say about these pilots and what they managed to do. Only positive, respect and a great gratitude for all they did.
@@benghazi4216 I dont want to come of as a negative person here by clarifying what I personally said. I did not say that SR-71 were running on one engine. In my humble opinion: The SR-71 Blackbird is not only one of the greatest planes ever made and the importance of it was and is possibly hard to match. The SR-71 and what it and the pilots were able to deliver could shift the balance of Geopolitics and more. There are many documentaries from various countries and interviews from those Viggen pilots and what they have to say about identifying the SR-71 and escorting them. I have nothing negative to say about the Viggen pilots or the SR-71 pilots. Only positive, Respect and a Great gratitude for all they have done throughout the years.
What's great about Sweden joining NATO is, they are of more than an asset than a liability. They have a strong military, technology and geography that's valuable to NATO.
The west had been arming terroriste organizations such as the zionnist land theft organization and anti Turkey pkk suicide attacks for dozens of years far before the septembre attacks and their support is not an extremly tiny minority no its an official and/or majority one..and even against Turkey who gave game changing Bayraktar drones to Ukraine..no doubt why u r called hypo 🤮 crites..WE hope that u keep ..ing UP each others up in Ukraine except innocent women children and I hope the turks leave that treaterous alliance now that they tested again n again your repeated treasons
@@techkingdata9338 You mean like when we sent our boys to help you out in Iraq and Afghanistan, long before a NATO membership was even on the table? Swedish and Finnish forces has been training with NATO forces, sharing intelligence etc for years already. It's not like the US tax payers are suddenly obliged to pay for Swedish defense. If you believe that, you are mistaken and need to brush up on the NATO statutes.
Sweden is so good at integrating economic growth and environment at the same time. I hope they bring that mindset to not only to NATO but also the rest of Europe to lower dependency of outside forces and save a bit of damage to our planet.
Sweden has the worst economic growth in the entire EU. The currency has been devaluing for ten years straight. Political turmoil, growing poverty. This is just propaganda
Glad to see our brothers and sisters in Sweden and Finland standing up for their security as well as our mutual interest in peace through collective strength to safeguard our democracies.
Regarding Russia, the people of Sweden would be much safer if the corrupt politicians of Sweden would not have let NATO have exercises in our country, so close to Russia. I don’t fear Russia. I fear USA and NATO, because we would not have to fear any attacks from Russia if our puppet politicians were not pressured by the deep state to join. The Swedish “family clan” Wallenberg was involved in “the research” in Wuhan and in “the research” that has been strategically bombed in Ukraine, now moving to Sweden by particularly welcoming these scientists. There is overwhelming propaganda with only one sided perspective shown in mainstream media.
I suppose people aren't really divided by racial origins anymore but rather by their mindsets. (The US probably being that one exception that proves the rule.) Take Ukraine and Russia for example, two people who effectively have near identical ancestral origins separated by one wanting democracy while the other wanting a puppet propaganda state. The same with China and Taiwan. Our corrupt business leaders and politicians turn a blind eye to what the CCP really is, maybe they have even forgotten. What with their prim suits and flashy cars, but just remember, you can dress a snake to look like a human but deep down it will always be nothing more than a snake. Waiting at the ready to strike at just the right time. Just look at what they did to Hong Kong.
@@annahallgren1055 Bruh. You're complaining about propoganda while literally spreading several discredited conspiracy theories. Your nonsense disinformation isn't welcome here troll.
Long live Sweden and Finland.. I would lay down my life for Sweden any second when called upon me, but if a war breaks out I will still take my Fika allways
@Perplexed The Eurofighter Typhoon needs a longer runway, a real runway. The Gripen can start and land from a highway. In case of a war, it's nearly useless for a enemy to destroy your airports, because your multi-role jets can start and land anywhere.
To be honest, it's not really tailor-made for Germany's situation (big bases and all that). But it is strange that Switzerland didn't buy it, it would have suited them better than the F-35 to be honest. Same with Austria which used to have the Draken.
I traveled to Sweden on business back in the late 1980's. Being in the heavy truck business I toured the Scania (truck division of SAAB) assembly plants and was very impressed. The technology back then was years ahead of the US. And they were very proud of the quality and technology in the military jets division. Great to see them join NATO. A big plus for defense in the Baltics and worldwide.
Sweden has some cutting edge new technology under research, which is funded by Finland. I can only say that Sweden gives Finland superb military technology and Finland gives huge , committed well- equipped and well-trained manpower to serve NATO&Europe. If Sweden&Finland are to be accepted into members of NATO; Europe can have assured peace and stabilization for many decades onward.
Not only in Europe. Now that Sweden and Finland are part of NATO .The US can rely on them to comply to article 5. President Biden says the US will defend Taiwan. Sweden and Finland are ready to now to assist in any war NATO is involved in .
It is not really going that well though. We have nuclear power that doesn't add to the CO2. Instead of maintaining that power, our idiot green party made sure to close down 6 out of 12 reactors before the new green solution is in place and is tested. This means that when the wind isn't blowing, our windmills stands still and then we have to turn on an Oil-based Powerplant that burns over 100,000 liters of Oil / hour to stabilize the electricity in southern Sweden. That Oil-powered powerplant is spewing out CO2 and the electrical bill goes up skyhigh because of this. So, as an example... one day when the wind was not blowing, the electricity price went up 13.000% Yes.... That is 13 THOUSAND %. If the green party hadn't forced to shut down those 6 nuclear reactors, we would not have had to burn Oil (add to the CO2), and the electrical prize would have been stable, even with the war in Ukraine. So no, things aren't looking that good.
Finland does have the more ambitious (2035) carbon neutrality target though. Marin's government was actually slightly ahead of their roadmap even before Russia started the energy war on EU.
Gold has been used as money for the last 5000 years and has maintained its value even with inflation. Gold is used in the medical field, technological field and many production processes. Central bankers accumulate tons of gold because they know that fiat currenciess are losing purchasing power and gold is an insurance against currency failures.
My parents are alcoholic and abusive I have autism ADHD borderline personality disorder anxiety but I don't complain about it cause otherwise it gets me no where I just accept it and realize it I put my walking shoes on and walk 5 kilometers a day cause I got stamina
Sweden is considered a country equipped with very advanced technology. If we can compare to the Russian technology in terms of military machineries the Russian technology has a lower quality.
@@internetvulture9250 The only countries buying inferior Russian military equipment are third world despotic regimes, who can't afford quality gear from western countries.
@Manny C Are you on crack? You must be brainwashed from Fake News CNN .Crimea, Luhansk, Donbas, Donetsk ,Mariupol already in the hand of the Russians are not wins?, they already have the territories that they came to Ukraine for.
JAS was especially developed to take out MIGs, so they bring something else to the table to what US planes does, maybe not better but different. The more tools there is in the toolbox the better.
According to the Russian side, Sweden’s JAS-39 Gripen-NG has absolutely no chance to win an air battle with its Su-35 and Su-30SM fighters. According to Russian experts “It should be remembered that Sweden has not achieved any significant success in the development of fighter aircraft, although it has access to advanced electronic warfare (EW) systems.”
Hello from Sweden, Our finance minister is right. Russian crisis and the sanctions against Russia have actually created a lot of opportunities for new jobs in Sweden, especially within the green sector. Sweden never was dependent on Russia, and it’s time for the rest of Europe to abandon Russian oil and gas completely. We can survive without countries being dependent on Russia. In fact, Swedish economy is actually booming despite the overall chaos in the rest of the world. Cheers.
@@zoom5024 Jag borde kanske ha lagt till ”givet de förutsättningar och det ekonomiska läget som råder i hela världen”. Min uppfattning är att vi i Sverige ser en ekonomisk tillväxt trots recession i hela världen. Visst har vi en hel del utmaningar, men livet är inte perfekt. Jag tycker vi lyckas balansera rätt bra till skillnad mot många andra länder.
A contry with a view and indeed incredible technical resources, that's not so common! By the way, Finland is sure not to be underestimated either, I worked for them in the 80's, they were amongst the first to implement microprocessors in lots of domains, even before IBM built his first PC...
FWIW Finland introduced the world's first mobile phone network 10 years before IBM introduced its first PC in 1981 four years after I was the third person in Austin to buy a Tandy Rado Shack Z80 desktop microcomputer. Addition, subtraction, multiplication, but, sorry, no division. Woo-hoo, sold it for half price three weeks later and that schmuck won't see me in heaven.
@@Superknullisch indeed, its first office ready PC! Don't you remember Intel's and Zylog microprocessors on printed circuit boards or Commodore keyboard/computer needing an external TV? These were amongst the first play stations or micro computers based on microprocessors at at that time. Those microprocessors were also used in process control and utomatiin. , Fnnish company KONE used them very soon to manage multi-elevator groups, replacing old relay based technology while introducing "intelligent" management for the users, reducing user's wait times, especially in large buildings! In fact, KONE took over Westinghouse elevators business and modernized the technology behind it. KONE also became THE specialist in modern ports kranes and much more!
No doubt about it, the Gripen is one of the finest fighter jets in the world today. Not the stealthiest nor the fastest, but cheap to buy, cheap to fly, and simple to maintain for an aircraft that is deadly in a fight.
The Gripen E/F is very stealthy, not in the same fashion as the F-35 which uses airframe design shape and special radar-absorbing paint to remain stealthy, but by scrambling and jamming sensors, essentially a flying hacker. It's able to use targeting of one plane to target a plane that's out of reach normally too so one plane could fly close without giving itself away while feeding targeting data to it's buddies further back to act on. What it lacks is the size to perform larger scale bombings due to it being small and single-engine, but the extremely short turnaround time is supposed to make up for that, it already has a longer range than the F-35 (and is able to use drop tanks because that doesn't adversely affect it's type of stealth unlike the F-35 where if you fit equipment on the outside it negates it's stealth).
Agree. It is supposedly so simple to handle by ground crew, that the job can be done by just normal conscripts. The whole idea of the Swedes is to take advantage of them pretty much living in a big forest, so their planes can make due with just roads and does require a massive setup to operate. I wish we had went with their planes here in Denmark instead of the F-35.
@@Rikard_Nilsson Yeah, it's a considerably better fighter than the F-35 in all sorts of ways. The question, as always, is what kind of war are you going to be fighting? In modern air combat stealth is REALLY overrated. Comparing the Gripen E/F to the F-35 is not really a fair comparison anyway. To either aircraft. The Gripen is a better comparison to the F-16 C, which has a more comparable role.
Sweden used to be Russia's rival before the U.S. until they defeated the Swedes at Poltava. Still, remnants of that mentality still exist with both parties.
We started building road-runways in the late 50's, so that middle finger must've originally been intended for Khrushchev I guess? Well, it should work for Putin too!
@@carlkolthoff5402 And it is now extended firmly, proudly and eastwards, and Putler and his cronies can spin on it. Any plans to take back your territory that St Petersburg is built on? Although I guess since partition that might be Finnish territory now. I guess you guys can figure it out between yourselves and the decent people of that city diplomatically, democratically and peacefully once Putler's regime implodes. Poland will of course get Koenigsberg back.
The Swedish army and the Swedish military industry have since the end of WW2 always had a single focus. Defending against an invasion from the east. And I'm not talking about Finland. This is more pertinent than ever.
Sweden has been heavily involved in almost all major war for many generations. Quality over quantity is what makes sweden Highly formidable force. Quality always wins against medium-low quality. Sweden and Finland took care of an area the size of the entire country of Portugal in Afghanistan. Quality over quantity always wins.
O, you mean, you too Win in Afghanistan not only USA?? Quality over quantity always wins. How many nukes do Russians have to use to overtake your quality? one, two, three? Wake up, there will not be a winner in WW3.
@Risto Kempas Afghanistan is not the only conflict that has happend. Sweden has been in Kosovo, Bosnia, Congo, Chad, Liberia, Afghanistan, Mali etc etc.
@@PSA78 Pentagone estimate Russian forces about 200-250 000 troops Ukrainian claim army personnel of 750 000. Are you still saying the Ukrainian quality beat the Russian quantity?
Saab gripped with avionics and weapons update And fast turnaround not to be trifled with- its only weakness is operational range, not an issue for anticipated theater in Scandinavia. When you add this to RAF and German euro fighters and French fighters , also world class, it would be possible to establish air dominance in a matter of a weeks-game over for any Russian offensive after that.
Russia has nukes. This means there will be no air dominance. There will be no war against Russia, or there will be the end of the world. It is all a game of posturing. Posturing that will prevent them from invading Finland and Sweden for sure, but this war against Russia that everyone seems so exited about, will never happen. Or if it does happen, we will all be burned to charcoal before we hear the news of it.
How would they compare in a head to head vs F22/F35? Maybe that's an overly simplistic question for those who know about these things but just curious. I assume they wouldn't fare very well overall, but relative to other countries AF's the euro fighters would do extremely well?
@@dreamer6737 Thats true,but the russians know that the minutte they try to launch a nuke in anger,they are destroyed as a nation!!Nato and the US would make russia a giant wasteland of radiation....So they would not dare to do that,unless they have a deathwish.
@@dc2778 I guess it comes down to if they can detect them. Gripen is unique in that it is equipped with and can use several of the different systems used by other fighter jets seamlessly. It can get coordinats from other tracking systems and use it (I believe 360) and over horizon, making it possible to fire flying in another direction and out of sight. But they would still need to find a stealth jet, that's usually easiest when you stand in front of it. 😂
And lots of good reasons why NATO countries should buy some Gripen E/Fs. As the plans to assemble them in Lviv are clearly not currently possible, Sweden should strongly consider supplying some to Ukraine in the meantime, along with the necessary support and training. Being modular in nature, they can incorporate as much NATO capability as required, and be updated to full NATO compliance after Russia's terrorists are kicked out.
@@DarthSailorMoo lol what? What an idiotic statement that’s irrelevant to my previous comment 😂 you don’t need to say acceptance of being gullible, you can just say gullible. That tells me all I need to know , you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about 😂🤣
As an American , it's absolutely fantastic that Both Finland & Sweden are looking to join NATO and I Definitely hope that they'll both win there bids to join. Matter of fact I know they will. If Turkey wants to block them then they need to be over ruled or potentially looked at as needing to be removed...
@@nabiyev Nope and you know it! Even though it sounds democratically correct it works like this: All NATO countries gotta approve of a new country/member/ally to join. Erdogan is allowed to use this NATO rule as blackmail material to get what he wants from Sweden. Knowing Erdogan it doesn't even seem likely that he would approve of Sweden joining even if he got all he wanted and more. Come to think of it, I think I will name all my Rogue/Assassins etc in games to Erdogan :)
@@dongarippo7279 Not necessarily. There hasn't been a NATO member who was removed but it doesn't mean it can't be done. It is legally complicated but there have already been calls for Turkey to be at least suspended by quite a few member countries that are tired of Erdogan's duplicity and underhandedness.
"...technology from IKEA......" .....wtf....what technology...??? ...are you smoking something heavy stuff....??? ....and by the way IKEA is not a Swedish company - it is Dutch.... - it has been so for something like 40 years since the owner Ingvard Kamprad (...and with him the company) left Sweden for avoiding Swedish taxes. Himself moved to Switzerland. I have no idea why Swedes are so proud of tax refuges who does not contribute to the Swedish society. Still both the Swedes and IKEA pretend it to be Swedish.....
Im Swedish but ehm... IKEA? Not a good comparison unless you want to assemble all equipment yourself and find out that parts are missing lol. Sweden is great, IKEA is great cause of its affordable furniture's as long as you can keep your temper and frustration when you put em together :).
@UC2YY0EntX8oxfnI3ylawyDw What problem? They've lost a lot of troops. They have lost a lot of equipment. With sanctions, they cannot repair said equipment. All you need to know is that China is not willing to take any risks to help Russia out in terms of parts or weapons. Why? They see Russia is actually an over-rated power that's weakening themselves. Russia is not worth the risk of their own economy, and besides, a weak russia would strengthen china's future influence on them. The longer the war goes, the weaker Russia gets economically and militarily. When the war ends and russia needs to rebuild their economy, expect china and India to take full advantage of their weakness.
@@benghazi4216 Okay, it was some time ago that I read about so maybe I got it wrong. It might have said that it was protected by the group. 😄 The improved model is apparently on its way, so maybe that one will take care of the rest. 😝
Sweden has some of the best military hardware engineers in the world... Some of the best avionic engineers for sure also. Nothing comes out of Sweden as far as products go that are anything but top quality.. I've never seen a cheap junk product made in Sweden... Just as smart as the German's if not better...
Tremendous assets to NATO if they are accepted. Both countries have very strong military industrials. Our navy bought a couple of submarines from Sweden
Love the SAAb Grippen a beast I know Landing on highways and roads is very tricky, and takes great skill, but Seems Highly strategic for maneuvering and easier to hide
@@jorgenmansson4269 But mainly it is the aircraft that is designed to land on a road. It is reinforced in similar ways to US carrier jets, just because it needs to hit the ground fast and at a high angle of attack. If you try this with another fighter, the F35A for example, it would break in half.
@@benghazi4216 Yes you are right, most of the Swedish fighter jets you see landing on roads is not the JAS GRIPEN it is the old DRAKEN and VIGGEN , they are strong enough to land on roads
Yes and No... while Finland and Sweden do have a fantastically trained and equipped Armies, but they are still undermanned, and to a cretin extent, under equipped (particularly their Air Forces and Navies) while the JAS-39 Gripen is a fantastic light fighter, it is still a light fighter with a limited missile capacity (6 air to air missiles). Putin most likely not make the same mistakes as he did in Ukraine, if Russia does attack Finland and Sweden before they fully join NATO, Russia would probably formally declare war, allowing Putin to utilize the entire might of the Russian military and not a limited number at any single time, like in Ukraine...
0:53 that's my company and buddies right there! So proud to be a mechanic for the Swedish Airforce and the magnificient Gripen and soon also a member of Nato!
@@MattyJ55046 There is no mechanism for kicking a country out. What could happen then is that a new alliance is made - something like "Nordic-Baltic Defense Alliance" - where a number of countries could sign on and use a similar system as NATO.
This made me proud of my country and our finance minister. He hade many good points and he was as forthcoming as possible the interview. No nonsense talk or talking a lot while saying nothing at all. Makes me feel good to be a part of all that as a Swedish citizen. Good news
@@Souperflysi Educated by the UK? Nah, me and my family were all educated in Swedish schools and at Uni here. The reason why I like the UK is that I visit friends there regularly. I also spent a recent year and a half living and working in England (I'm in tech, paid a lot of taxes! :P), and I get along very well with you guys, I think we share a lot of values and cultural inclinations. No offense intended, just a friendly jab about the vikings, it's been a thousand years.. get over it :D
Anyone who understands modern warfare will appreciate the military capabilities of these two countries. Russia would not last long against either of them.
Agreed! Doesn't stop there, TPB, highest tier fighter jets, submarines, rifles, A-Ts, the GPS, Bluetooth, Dynamite, the Zipper, Safety belt, ball bearing, ultrasound, pacemaker etc etc. Bless you Finland, fucking bless the Scandinavian peninsula, it's a haven of invention. Much love from Sweden!!
@@jackbananas3204 nah man, not really 😅It was initiated & developed out of Lund, Sweden. If you're referring to Dutchman Jaap Haartsen he was indeed dutch but simply an employee helping inventor Nils Rudbeck, CTO @ Ericsson Mobile in Sweden at the time 👍 Here, you can read its history yourself: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth
@@isubtothebest6020 Lol, no they're not. Considering Sweden is a country of 10 million yet single handedly designed a 4+ gen fighter. Meanwhile India, a country with a 130x bigger population and many times bigger GDP can't even develop their Tejas without substantial Western help. China the same thing, they have 150x the population size and by far the biggest GDP on earth, yet they still produce inferior fighters, the performance of their jet engines sorely lacking and not producing the required amount of thrust.
@@pieterveenders9793 China currently is developing 5th gen aircraft, they already (though problematic) J20s. They seem confident enough on their new engines to install them on their latest variant of the single engine J10C. Their Flanker jets have domestic avionics and potent bvr capabilities. I know the "anything China makes is trash" mentality is still strong in the West but underestimating them is a terrible mistake. Prepare for the worst, see them as a rival capable of fielding potent weapons and advanced technology, this way you won't be caught off guard.
@@pieterveenders9793 well, none of the recent Saab jets have been developed _single handedly_ by swedish engineers. Since the Viggen in 1967, the US and UK have been involved as well with engine and radar equipment. With the Viggen the US reliance became a problem as the US blocked them from being exported to other countries.
As a Canadian, I'm super happy and proud to have Sweden and Finland join the alliance. They are strong, democratic, peaceful, and free-market nations which share so much with everyone else in the West. It's time the free-world unites in mutual defense against naked aggression from large autocratic countries who have old world and outdated "spheres of influence" mentalities, not least of all that "might is right".
And we have a strong band with Canada and Im really happy about that.
As a Canadian I think you should find something sharp and ram you face in it.
@@dtesla2118 Wont go into a fight with you. If thats what you think so be it. Not really an adult answer though.
A bit too much free market. It used to be bether.
nilocblue: well said
As a Swede and a former UN-soldier I get tears in my old eyes by reading all the nice comments. Big thank´s to all!
Same here👍🏻
Semper Miles!
As an American, i get tears in my eyes thinking we could be closer partners with Sweden in facing this huge threat to freedom and democracy. I have always loved the Nordic countries (raised in the Norwegian Lutheran Church in America in the 1950's) and felt Sweden was the best of the best in terms of values. (Oh...and i drive a Volvo!).
Un soldier? Where to?
@@jonaspaulsson9912 57&59C and 64M.
Lenge leve Sverige Anders🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪
As a swedish soldier, this comment section makes me nothing but proud and happy. Together we'll defend our peace.
So glad to have Sweden join NATO!!! Their contribution to air & naval security of the region comes as greatly welcome and important! The awesome Grippen!!! Might have known that Saab would be capable of super engineering and technology! Learned to drive at 13 yr old in a 60's model Saab three speed on the column. Great car in the snow of Maine as it was probably the first front-wheel drive auto in the US!? Engine weight over the drive tires, SMART! And speaking of smart, indeed a country of only 10M has accomplished much, given the opportunity to have done so! World Class!!!
Congrats for sweden's new position at the top of Russian preemptive stryke list in case of a major conflict! 😂😂😂😂😂
What a foolish decision!
😂 you living in a lie !! That's totally okay, but do not work in reality 😂
@@tems8132 countries say otherwise
Love my Swedish and Finnish brothers and sisters.
From Canada
Lots of love back, eh! :D Canada is awesome.
Big hurrdy-burrdy-gurrdi-spagurrdi from Sweden! :)
Ready to lost together?
Swedish people are our friends .from great Britain 🇬🇧
You guys have a great history with Norsemen and Vikings :)
Love Swedens Air Force🇺🇸🇸🇪
And we love Britain back! :)
@norm simpson Yes, yes we do have heads :) Not sure if we have feets though, cant see that far down
@@parrossberg hahaha , 🇸🇪👍
I love Sweden, my girlfriend is from Sweden and she now lives in the UK with me. When I stayed in Sweden with her family its awesome to see how much of a well developed country Sweden is and being a frontline in innovation with such a small population. It truly is remarkable.
Man I envy you! Sweden is like the European center for super lovely ladies!
So uk don't have good girls?
@@bb-yk5cc no
@@bb-yk5cc Yes, but my lady in particular is tops them all.
Swedish woman is beautiful but..... Hard to manage... 😆
I am canadian with swedish blood. Huge love and respect for Sweden and Finland. Always loves you guys except when we play each other at hockey. 🤣❤🇨🇦
I have the exact same feelings! Hate you guys in hockey but in everything else, you seem great. Huge respect to Canada, love from Sweden.
@@Cloud-dq1mragree to a 100%! 😂😂
Lol just hearing the name Niedermayer makes my blood boil. What he did to Forsberg during the 2004 final... Grrrrrrr lol.
HAHA U 2
I swear, Turkey is one of the most difficult allies to deal with in NATO. They have great capabilities and control the canal into the Black Sea, but man they are problematic with lots of stuff usually tied to their leadership
They should not be in NATO
@@treborsirrah7916 Sadly NATO needs em just hope Turkey wont stall our application to long.
Turkey should , but Erdogan should'nt
Erdogan is the problem. Hopefully it passes soon.
Jt. The regime change effort is working like clockwork. We will hear more about this plan from Putin soon. Amazing
Sweden is more than welcome. Thank you CNN for these reports. Best wishes from Germany
The Gripen is an absolute beautiful and deadly aircraft. I'm just glad Brazil has a partnership with Saab and bought this beast.👏👏🇧🇷🇸🇪
Eu não sabia!
Gripen is a poor mans fighter it is usually bought by countries who have little money as the aircraft is cheapest of all western aircraft
@@zedbronson835 what are you talking about? Saab Gripen is a top quality 4th generation fighter jet that is in no way a "poor mans fighter". A F-16 cost around 64 million dollars (in 2021) and a Saab JAS39E/F Gripen cost around 85 million.
@@rubenrahnu4504 You can never compare F16 to gripen just look at the war record of F16, while the Grippen has not fought in any war. If and F16 and Grippen were to go head to head against one another I can assure you that the F16 would come out on top.
@@zedbronson835 Check out the ranges of AMRAAM vs. Meteor. So in the BVR fight Gripen has this major advantage.
I am from the US and if a major war breaks out I'd much rather have them on our side.
You do know that they collaborated and supported Nazi Germany right to attack Russia...
@@EBZ-bx7zc I know that was a long time ago and Putin is the one acting like Hitler these days.
Yea in Nuclear war is so important to have more dead territory on our side,
@@MikeSmith-cl4ix I mean Russia single handedly save Europe and the world from Nazi Germany. In Putin's mind he has the leeway and moral right to decide the fate if Europe because no country has endured as much suffering from Western Europe than Russia. Think of African Americans and slavery.
@@EBZ-bx7zc I guess I can see your point if you're trying to say that Putin is trying to exploit the ukrainians for personal gainbut he's going to end up getting a lot more Russians killed.
I love the Swedes, what a wonderfull country and what nice people out there.
🇸🇪❤️👋
Thank you dear sir/madam :D
*basks in the words like they were rays of sunshine* 🇸🇪
@@EvulOne42 Poetic :D
Yes, they have the most NO-GO ZONES in Europe, how wonderful is that...
Sweden is a powerhouse ...i love their Volvo cars and trucks
Dont forget Scania too
@@gamedayswede Saab-Scania is one company, just two divisions, or three if you consider the aerospace and car divisions of Saab separately.
@@gamedayswede and ABBA
WERE a powerhouse.. that's what you should've said. Coz Volvo was sold to Gele. A Chinese company. Sweden is a dying country that strangely enough is doing quite well right now financially. but that won't last for long, if the country implodes from within. We have a huge immigrant crisis which has created a huge crime and violence crisis and we have an electrical crisis as well. But of course this lying huckster of finance minister won't mention that. Oh and what's more, part from the air force, and our five subs, Sweden barely has any armed forces. We used to have a great military force. We used to be one of the most militarised countries of the world. Then our naive, incompetent and morally bankrupt politicians decided that we didn't need to have any armed forces essentially. Yes! You heard me correctly, loud and clear. Our parlamentet decided, that over time, we should completely dismantle our entire armed forces. We now have ca 0-15 % left of what we had back in 1989 when our defence was the strongest. I say 0-15 % because some elements of the armed forces have been completely dismantled and thus seized to exist altogether. And this whole NATO debacle, isn't just something "you can have a dialogue about.." as this dishonest liar of a politician, put it. There's a growing scandal about to burst here in IKEA country.. and it just might cost this man, the prime minister and the social democrats party their jobs and governance over Sweden even before the elections in September this year.
Volvo is Chinese. But wd like to see Saab cars make a comeback.
Sweden is not to fuck with, they have a strong army for thier size, plus if you mess with Sweden, you mess with Scandinavia!
Lol
@@danielchavez7343 he’s right… Im a dane myself, and we will stand with the swedes, the finnish and the norwegian’s for ever
24,000 strong?
Don't think anyone is worried about Sweden. Or all of Scandanavia combined. They don't bring that much to the table.
Perhaps sweden has a strong air Force because they collaborated with Nazi Germany .......anyone thought about that???
The Swedes have a first class military, and they possess great technology. They excel at developing anti-tank wpns systems eg NLAW- developed with the UK. They are a very welcome addition to NATO indeed. Great to have the Swedes on board!
No they don't/. Its all propaganda. They have never fought a war lol
Modified for the UK.. not with
Yeah NLAW is a joint project. The Swedes are mostly responsible for the warhead with the UK being responsible for other stuff. Team MBT LAW UK provides components for the system, includes: Thales Air Defence (final assembly); BAE Systems Avionics (inertial measurement unit); NP Aerospace (plastic and composite mouldings); FR-HiTemp (control fins and actuators); Raytheon Systems (electronics assemblies); Skeldings (special purpose springs); Thales Missile Electronics (proximity fuze); MetalWeb; BAE Systems RO Defence; EPS Logistics Technology; Express Engineering; Portsmouth Aviation; ICI Nobel Enterprises; Leafield Engineering.[15] The missile's warhead is made in Switzerland by Saab Bofors Dynamics Switzerland Ltd.
@@PazuzuStalker it is made in the UK and was a joint project with both nations contributing like with many advanced weapons and machinery allies will joint together on projects so you have skill and knowledge and technology from participating countries also it helps there be a bigger more widely spread budget.
We got lots more comming my friend....just wait and see.... the new Nlaw and the New Carl system M5 will rock your shoes big time.....
The Swedes are professionals, and disciplined, yet they think outside the box. They’ve only 10Mil souls, yet any country, including the superpowers, would think twice about attacking them. They’re unpredictable, which allowed them to get their sub inside the line of defenses and score direct hits on an American super carrier, which makes them very dangerous. The US has been leasing that sub and it’s sailors, trying develop a defense for that defeat ever since. They are a formidable military. Same with the Finns. We’re fortunate to have them join NATO.
Joining NATO & actually becoming a member could take 6 years. Reason? Long coffee breaks, I guess.
@@bunzeebear2973 It's called Fika! And it's wonderful!
@@bunzeebear2973 You have no idea how creative people can get around the coffee table! 🙂
I would lay down my life for Sweden any second when called upon me, but if a war breaks out I will still take my Fika allways
@@benghazi4216 and quite around the table
How does Sweden produce such impressive kit with a population of just 10 Million? Very impressive. And a welcome addition to NATO.
google the Wallenberg family. Their motto is "Esse non videri", which basically means rule from the shadows ...
To uphold the previous Swedish military doctrine of non alignment, a lot of effort was put in having a strong defense. For a long time Sweden had the worlds fourth largest and powerful air force. Sweden also had a very serious and far gone nuclear weapons program during the 60s and early 70s. The official story is that the program was ended because of shifting public opinion on nuclear weapons, partially because of events like the Vietnam War and the Cuban Missile Crisis. To this date a lot of information concerning the program remains classified. It therefore doesn't' seem entirely unthinkable that Sweden could have been a nuclear power at some point. Sweden is a country that both has the brains and the means to develop some of the most advanced equipment available...
The west had been arming terroriste organizations such as the zionnist land theft organization and anti Turkey pkk suicide attacks for dozens of years far before the septembre attacks and their support is not an extremly tiny minority no its an official and/or majority one..and even against Turkey who gave game changing Bayraktar drones to Ukraine..no doubt why u r called hypo 🤮 crites..WE hope that u keep ..ing UP each others up in Ukraine except innocent women children and I hope the turks leave that treaterous alliance now that they tested again n again your repeated treasons
Smart people and (was) a functioning welfare state. Now we have problems with immigration that is a thing to solve.
It has created a solid education system that’s treated like the long-term investment that it is.
I ended up in Sweden 1993. I’m proud of this country and is my home.
@Oscar perryd shh pathetic guy.
@@oscarperryd2261 Not for you to decide.
@@oscarperryd2261 No. It is between him and Sweden, not you or me.
@@oscarperryd2261 Ok with me.
och jag 1994:)
The more the merrier! Welcome to NATO to both Sweden and Finland. I know Europe, Canada, and the United States have always valued your friendship and admired your culture and people, so this is awesome news. 💪
Thank you! (Swede here)
erdoğan : 😏
And we envy your free market :)
If they're NATO members or not, Sweden and Finland are undeniable part of Europe and nobody in Europe would deny them support. Ukraine already got more support than Putin expected. Sweden and Finland would get 10 times more.
I wouldn't go _that_ far. I think Ukraine is getting as much support as most countries can responsibly afford to give. Of course if it had been in NATO it would've gotten a no-fly zone and more direct support as well, but material support is always going to be restricted by economic and political factors.
@@VVayVVard I mean if it were NATO that would be WW3 and without nukes there wouldn't just be a no-fly zone, but a no-Russia zone. Bye bye Russia...
@@VVayVVard Ukraine is getting as much support as politicians think their voters would accept. Most Europeans feel a lot closer to Sweden and Finland and would probably be willing to accept even more support. At least that's what I would expect.
@@VVayVVard Remember this: If Russia attacks Finland and Sweden, I'm going there to help. To also fight, once/ if they would train me & the need arises.
1.) I'm from Slovenia. NATO yes or no, they are our (close) family. I know Finland's values enough that I would feel comfortable committing to a military contract serving in their military. And I would not feel comfortable signing on with Ukraine, as of yet.
Compared to Ukraine, I trust the Finnish system of governance and the Finns to be VERY competent in their military & societal organisation.
I trust them enough to feel OK being led by their military & political leadership.
And the farthest I've been exposed to a Finland personally is when one Finn came for Erasmus in my University classes. For a couple lessons only. ^^
2.) Ukraine's state-system is a (half-competent) mess; politically, military-system-wise and corruption-wise (in their military, there are patches of Western-competent systems of leadership & patches of Soviet mentality and/ or general corruption/ incompetence; and these positions seem to be often in ideological disagreement/ clash of styles).
Ukraine is still VERY effective compared to Russia, but very chaotic in their ground-up organization & as an outsider, weaving your way through their complex system; it's complicated. But it's still WAAAAAY better than Russia & Ukraine is winning because of it.
@@VVayVVard Unfortunately Ukraine was known long before the war even started to be a corrupted shithole to the rest of Europe. And it is still. I would not send money there unless i knew for a fact they would end up where intended. Sweden and Finland is a different story alltogether.
Proud to be Swedish. Thanks for all the support for my home country in the comments, makes me proud of my people
Cringe
Stolt över att bli bestulen på din lön för att finansiera utländsk militär som använder symboler associerade med Nazism och tar med en känd Ukrainsk Waffen SS soldat till Kanadensiska parlamentet varvid han hyllas?
Smidigt, verkar klokt att vara stolt över att bli lurad och rånad blind.
Russia would get absolutely stomped if they ever tried anything. Sweden and Finland will magnify that stomping.
Mutually assured destruction.
@@autentyk5735 🤣😂
@@autentyk5735 Russia would play themselves even more if they would do something MAD.
@@autentyk5735 Mutilated a-s-s disruption 8)
Lol
I admire these people: they’re visionary and they used their time wisely to prepare for anything catastrophic.
Can you please tell me how to prepare for a nuclear apocalypse? That's the only result if EVER Russia decided to attack Sweden or Finland.
@@internetvulture9250 th-cam.com/video/jNBPdFqb6fY/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=SkyNews
The west had been arming terroriste organizations such as the zionnist land theft organization and anti Turkey pkk suicide attacks for dozens of years far before the septembre attacks and their support is not an extremly tiny minority no its an official and/or majority one..and even against Turkey who gave game changing Bayraktar drones to Ukraine..no doubt why u r called hypo 🤮 crites..WE hope that u keep ..ing UP each others up in Ukraine except innocent women children and I hope the turks leave that treaterous alliance now that they tested again n again your repeated treasons
@@internetvulture9250 Both Sweden and Finland have nuclear bunkers for nearly all their population.
they did in the past until marketplace came and took over + how so win and appeal to voters -everything are from the past -20-40 years past -weapons ,tech ,all - That why sweden has now big amount of millioneers -grats to them and they will be the first to leave sweden when attacked
The fact that a swedish financial minister is capable if insightfully citing "the rust belt" and the its causes in reference to his own nation is inspiring more faith given to the potential success in thier NATO bid.
As a Swede its a bit comical because his own political party caused the rust belt in the first place. After the second wold war Sweden was in a perfect position with a fully working industry. We had all the opertunity in the world to become a economic superpower and we did for a while. But then Dambergs party wanted todo some social experiments in the 70a and 80s and we went into complete economic decline
He's a liar.....
Sweden has a great people a good hearted one.
Hello
But stay away from the suburbs!
Sweden has made well engineered military weapons for a long time. At one time no country could make an anti aircraft machine gun of the performance of the Swedish made Bofors 40mm. All combatants in WWII wanted it. It became the armament of choice of the US Navy shortly after the US joined the war.
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@@costaet The Swedish military was ranked as the 5th strongest in the world in the early 1990's before the disarmament at the end of the Cold War. The Swedish military could always be re-armed.
Dont forget we invented gun powder/dynamite in Sweden.
As someone with swedish and finnish ancestors, I am very happy to have those both beloved countries in NATO. Realizing how close friends and allies Sweden and Finland are makes me satisfied
Seems like Google/TH-cam wants to censor so I'll stick with saying that you shame your ancestors and our countries...
@@jakewalberg4177 Yeah you are. The US agitated via NATO and pushed and pushed. Putin is a maniac and might've attacked anyway but your current administratoin is basically the reason Russia attacked Ukraine. What kind of a "friend" forces another into a shaky so called alliance where one would be forced to defend Turkey of all crappy places? Tell me all about how Turkey views human rights?
Google is 50% Ruski created; nuff said. Funny how you think my opinions are rule violations and yet I am the extremist.
You have no connection to my country nor Finland. You're an uninformed US citizen (quelle surprise). Stay tf out of other countries. You want to do something useful then have a civil war and rid yourself of the crazy US left instead of screwing up the rest of the world. We're constantly tasked with having to clean up your foreign affairs. Educate yourself. There's no excuse anymore; you have a free and open internet too.
Well then, let me say as a Swede, that an age of Swedishness that started with the assassination of the PM Olof Palme and now culminated in us joining Nato.
It is truly a dark day to be a Swede.
Well Finland used to be Swedish so I am not surprised.
du är patetisk, å sanningen kommer visa sig helt annorlunda än du hade räknat med. Lycka till! ;)
As an American I support Finland and Sweden joining the alliance ❤️
The Finns and the Swedes will make NATO so much stronger, on their own they are very powerful with incorporation into NATO it will be a game changer.
It’s not going to happen without major consequences
@@isubtothebest6020 and why is that?
@@MrJimmyT Russia isn’t going to just allow that , especially for Sweden
@@isubtothebest6020 it is not a decision Russia can make
@@MrJimmyT I didn’t say it was? The more I talk about the situation with NATO supporters , the more I see that most of you have trouble comprehending simple statements yet believe they know what’s going on
I'm American and a military aviation nerd, and USAF vet, and I am so happy to have the Swedes and and Finns looking to join us in NATO. And the Saab Grippen is a deeply interesting platform. Obviously the US isn't going to buy them, but I wouldn't fault any other nation for buying them if they don't want to spend F-35 money, and I'm curious to see what the next generation Saab fighter ends up looking like, especially if Sweden joining leads to more tech sharing. Don't think I'm not also joyous for Finland homing too, but air power is special interest of mine so Sweden's Air Force is naturally going to draw my focus. The Finnish Army is just as intriguing for folks who nerd out about ground pounders, especially given the bruisings they've historically visited upon Russia/USSR.
If anyone was curious The buy price of The gripen E is more than The f35 but The support cost is way lower
@@bigyeet8905 yeah 5th Gen fighters are kinda hanger Queens. They do great work but the maintenance is a lot.
The Draken was really cool and could fly at mach 2. Austria retired the last one in 2005.
Sweden ranks up there with Germany when it comes to expertise in creating weapons and military hardware. We just don't see it because they've been neutral for so long.
Hehe dont say that consider they helped Germany durring WW2.
@@RandySnarsh no, they just let them buy nickel ore
they sold to both sides... neutral
@@RandySnarsh Sweden helped everyone during WW2. Neutrality is not free and being a large country with small population in Europe in a high importance strategic area during the biggest wars the world have ever seen is not less then complicated. It requires extreme diplomatic abilities and maneuvers.
@@RandySnarsh we helped the allies more tho ;) Getting rich playing both sides, YE!
If Russia is having this much problems in Ukraine, I can't imagine they would invade Finland or Sweden that seems to have a more war ready mindset.
Congratulations, Sweden remembers the lesson ''DONT FIGHT WITH RUSSIA'' for a full 200 (from 1809) years much longer than United Europa only 77 years. Look like the lesson have to be repeated sadly we should have to pay the price for this F king piss contest.
Ukraines mindset is far better prepared since the last 8 years than the "peace spoiled" swedes. 2 centuries of neutrality and a self centered spoiled population has created a people believing that war is something of the past, or at least someone elses problem. Lets see if this is a much needed wake up call...
That's why he treats with his stupid nuclear bombs he know he going to lose.
Having spent some time in Scandinavia, I would call it Defense ready rather than War ready. But yes.
Russia can just vaporize them in a blink of an eye. Also, Zeleski stated yesterday and it was on BBC that up to 200 Ukrainians are killed in a day in East, so Russians are doing just fine. Only, according to the western media Ukraine is wining
Acting the way he did prior to the Nordic countries' NATO applications, Erdogan has shown that he is utterly unreliable!
During the period before the application, Erdogan was repeatedly asked about his position on these applications by, among others the President of Finland, Swedish officials and the Secretary General of NATO, among others.
He kept answering that he saw no obstacles to this on the part of Turkey.
Once Finland's and Sweden's applications have been submitted, there are suddenly all sorts of serious objections.
Erdogan apparently set a trap for the candidate countries. These have now ended up in a very dangerous situation, which Erdogan intends to use to his advantage
A person with such an extremely lack of morals will never be trusted and definitely does not belong in any western co-operative organization!
Will any other country dare to apply for membership in the future when despite all positive promises your application gets denied and gives your adversary a free card to invade?
Turks and their religions, and all pf this because Sweden has been nice to BOTH Turkish and Kurdish immigrants accepting hundreds of thousands of them on welfare programs. Only Social Democrats could come up with this mess 🤦🏼♂️
Erdogan is anti NATO, all NATO friendly officers in the Turkish army are in prison or living outside of Turkey as political refugees after Erdogan's fake coup d'état against his own government in 2016. He needs the NATO membership to protect him from Russia, other than that it has no value for his vision of Turkey becoming a new islamic fundementalist state where democracy and freedom means fuck all. Kick Turkey out of NATO back to Putin and Hitler where it belongs and replace them with real democracies like Finland and Sweden.
Turkey is about as reliable as new ice. Nato and Europe will always be in huge trouble having to depend is such a frail and selfish country.
It wasn't the first time he changed his mind, secretly beating his meat at being in the center of attention. I for one will never visit turkey, along with many of the people I have talked to, because of the way women are being treated there, and because of erdogan. Who is probably the main problem.
Askerî ambargo uyguladığınız bir ülkeden onay beklemeniz tuhaf. Ortaklık böyle olmaz. Şartlar açıklandı hadi bakalım
It was a Swedish airforce Saab made Viggen fighter plane that holds the title of being the only aircraft ever to get a successful missile lock on a united states airforce supersonic Lockheed sr71 blackbird reconnaissance aircraft.... impressive!
To continue your story about the 3 viggen fighter planes: Also Escorting that airplane while it were having an engine failure in the Baltic sea to Germany while being traced by Soviet union. They were locked and loaded as they should. Hence missile locking unidentified plane until they identified that it was an US Lockheed sr 71 Blackbird. Took decades for those Viggen pilots to be recognised and treated as heroes as they are.
@@mattiaspaulrud These are not the same situation. Viggen has gotten "combat" radar lock on SR-71s.
The one that was flying on one engine they photographed.
"I remember that the SR-71 was flying at an altitude of 22.000m and a speed of Mach 2.9. Ulf had some difficulties coming back to earth - he actually reached the target’s altitude and passed the SR-71 head-on at the same altitude with some side separation, but suffered a high temperature engine stall!"
Does that sound like the SR-71 on one engine? No it doesn't.
@@benghazi4216 I dont want to start some negativity here. ok. I have no intent to be negative at all. To clarify my own personal statement; I didn't say that SR-71 were on one engine. There are rather good documentaries from various countries and real interviews from those Viggen pilots themself where they themself tell the stories about this. I have nothing negative to say about these pilots and what they managed to do. Only positive, respect and a great gratitude for all they did.
@@benghazi4216 I dont want to come of as a negative person here by clarifying what I personally said. I did not say that SR-71 were running on one engine. In my humble opinion: The SR-71 Blackbird is not only one of the greatest planes ever made and the importance of it was and is possibly hard to match. The SR-71 and what it and the pilots were able to deliver could shift the balance of Geopolitics and more. There are many documentaries from various countries and interviews from those Viggen pilots and what they have to say about identifying the SR-71 and escorting them. I have nothing negative to say about the Viggen pilots or the SR-71 pilots. Only positive, Respect and a Great gratitude for all they have done throughout the years.
@@mattiaspaulrud No worries mate!
But time for bed for me, it's 2 AM here, so no lengthy response from me now
What's great about Sweden joining NATO is, they are of more than an asset than a liability. They have a strong military, technology and geography that's valuable to NATO.
The west had been arming terroriste organizations such as the zionnist land theft organization and anti Turkey pkk suicide attacks for dozens of years far before the septembre attacks and their support is not an extremly tiny minority no its an official and/or majority one..and even against Turkey who gave game changing Bayraktar drones to Ukraine..no doubt why u r called hypo 🤮 crites..WE hope that u keep ..ing UP each others up in Ukraine except innocent women children and I hope the turks leave that treaterous alliance now that they tested again n again your repeated treasons
Yeah and another burden for the U.S.A
I am from Sweden, and you are about to discover how much of a liability Sweden can be.
Even now as a non-NATO member Sweden is an asset for NATO
@@techkingdata9338 You mean like when we sent our boys to help you out in Iraq and Afghanistan, long before a NATO membership was even on the table?
Swedish and Finnish forces has been training with NATO forces, sharing intelligence etc for years already.
It's not like the US tax payers are suddenly obliged to pay for Swedish defense. If you believe that, you are mistaken and need to brush up on the NATO statutes.
Living in Northern Sweden, two years ago, I could see everyday its fighter jets at a high altitude, always active to help NATO.
Very impressive!🇺🇸 🇸🇪 🇺🇦
Gives me goose bumps. proud to be a swede.
And a happy Sabaton to you too
goosebumps to every single Russian.
don't you remember when Sweden invaded Russia? obviously not.
thank you morons
bad move, but it wont matter.
Sweden will be leaving NATO when time comes
They will be an access..
Sit down, CNN is not a judge in some Air force beauty contest.
Sweden is so good at integrating economic growth and environment at the same time. I hope they bring that mindset to not only to NATO but also the rest of Europe to lower dependency of outside forces and save a bit of damage to our planet.
We take down perfectly working nuclear power plants though. And need to burn coal and gas to compensate.
Info please.
Sweden has the worst economic growth in the entire EU. The currency has been devaluing for ten years straight. Political turmoil, growing poverty. This is just propaganda
Glad to see our brothers and sisters in Sweden and Finland standing up for their security as well as our mutual interest in peace through collective strength to safeguard our democracies.
Can you imagine if Canada and Mexico wanna to join the Soviet Union
America would go to war without any questions
Now you see how Russia feel
Regarding Russia, the people of Sweden would be much safer if the corrupt politicians of Sweden would not have let NATO have exercises in our country, so close to Russia. I don’t fear Russia. I fear USA and NATO, because we would not have to fear any attacks from Russia if our puppet politicians were not pressured by the deep state to join. The Swedish “family clan” Wallenberg was involved in “the research” in Wuhan and in “the research” that has been strategically bombed in Ukraine, now moving to Sweden by particularly welcoming these scientists. There is overwhelming propaganda with only one sided perspective shown in mainstream media.
I suppose people aren't really divided by racial origins anymore but rather by their mindsets. (The US probably being that one exception that proves the rule.)
Take Ukraine and Russia for example, two people who effectively have near identical ancestral origins separated by one wanting democracy while the other wanting a puppet propaganda state.
The same with China and Taiwan. Our corrupt business leaders and politicians turn a blind eye to what the CCP really is, maybe they have even forgotten. What with their prim suits and flashy cars, but just remember, you can dress a snake to look like a human but deep down it will always be nothing more than a snake. Waiting at the ready to strike at just the right time. Just look at what they did to Hong Kong.
@@annahallgren1055 Bruh. You're complaining about propoganda while literally spreading several discredited conspiracy theories. Your nonsense disinformation isn't welcome here troll.
Good Day , I love your newsletters .😀
We all over the World 🌍 STRONGLY SUPPORT Finland 🇫🇮 & Sweden 🇸🇪 to join the NATO organization.
Me too I love both country join to NATO..
Looting them to be another battleground it's not cool spare innocents people lives
Long live Sweden and Finland..
I would lay down my life for Sweden any second when called upon me, but if a war breaks out I will still take my Fika allways
The Gripen is amazing, stunning! I never understood, why our (german) air force has not introduced this jet.
Political thing i guess, Sweden might have issues with nuclear arming Gripen. Since in germany attack planes are suppose to use US nuclear weapon B61.
@Perplexed
The Eurofighter Typhoon needs a longer runway, a real runway. The Gripen can start and land from a highway. In case of a war, it's nearly useless for a enemy to destroy your airports, because your multi-role jets can start and land anywhere.
Try floating a BIG balloon of Hydrogen over Moscow. What can go wrong? The Richthofen 2, not like anyone is going to shoot it.
It's 99% politics when it comes to these decisions.
To be honest, it's not really tailor-made for Germany's situation (big bases and all that). But it is strange that Switzerland didn't buy it, it would have suited them better than the F-35 to be honest. Same with Austria which used to have the Draken.
I traveled to Sweden on business back in the late 1980's. Being in the heavy truck business I toured the Scania (truck division of SAAB) assembly plants and was very impressed. The technology back then was years ahead of the US. And they were very proud of the quality and technology in the military jets division.
Great to see them join NATO. A big plus for defense in the Baltics and worldwide.
We hate NATO and USA!
@@erikeriksson3615says who?
@@hemligx-sson8202only him😂
Sweden has some cutting edge new technology under research, which is funded by Finland. I can only say that Sweden gives Finland superb military technology and Finland gives huge , committed well- equipped and well-trained manpower to serve NATO&Europe. If Sweden&Finland are to be accepted into members of NATO; Europe can have assured peace and stabilization for many decades onward.
Not only in Europe. Now that Sweden and Finland are part of NATO .The US can rely on them to comply to article 5. President Biden says the US will defend Taiwan. Sweden and Finland are ready to now to assist in any war NATO is involved in .
And, If the russian dwarf and his army starts the move west, "Swedes will fight him - till the last Finn".
@@bafattvahetere If Russia is so retard which it is , Finland is prepared. This time Finland is not fighting alone.
Finnish sisu and Swedish engineering. A potent mix.
The "Gripen" is class. The nordic countries are arguably the best in Europe (world) in terms of sustainability.
noooo ask hungarian only 2 fly 8 broken simply junk you not going to fight mig and suhoj using swedes shit plane
NATO BOT
Gripen's reported strengths are not combat tested.
@@sohaibshehzad2052 Nor would they be after taking on Russian pilots 😂
Small populations help.
"Economic growth, job creation, and green transition at the same time" - Oh Sweden, how I wish more of the world could follow you
What, is this the first time hearing the fake promises of politicians?
It is not really going that well though. We have nuclear power that doesn't add to the CO2. Instead of maintaining that power, our idiot green party made sure to close down 6 out of 12 reactors before the new green solution is in place and is tested. This means that when the wind isn't blowing, our windmills stands still and then we have to turn on an Oil-based Powerplant that burns over 100,000 liters of Oil / hour to stabilize the electricity in southern Sweden.
That Oil-powered powerplant is spewing out CO2 and the electrical bill goes up skyhigh because of this. So, as an example... one day when the wind was not blowing, the electricity price went up 13.000% Yes.... That is 13 THOUSAND %.
If the green party hadn't forced to shut down those 6 nuclear reactors, we would not have had to burn Oil (add to the CO2), and the electrical prize would have been stable, even with the war in Ukraine.
So no, things aren't looking that good.
Finland does have the more ambitious (2035) carbon neutrality target though. Marin's government was actually slightly ahead of their roadmap even before Russia started the energy war on EU.
Gold has been used as money for the last 5000 years and has maintained its value even with inflation. Gold is used in the medical field, technological field and many production processes. Central bankers accumulate tons of gold because they know that fiat currenciess are losing purchasing power and gold is an insurance against currency failures.
My parents are alcoholic and abusive I have autism ADHD borderline personality disorder anxiety but I don't complain about it cause otherwise it gets me no where I just accept it and realize it I put my walking shoes on and walk 5 kilometers a day cause I got stamina
Today I only did things that I liked. It sucked - and I didn't feel like growing. So, you're right!
Someone is selling gold...
@@AakeTraakThey are clueless
Sweden is considered a country equipped with very advanced technology. If we can compare to the Russian technology in terms of military machineries the Russian technology has a lower quality.
That's why Russia has 20 % in the world weapon market and Sweden 0,8 % yea your weapon is much better sad no one wants to have it.
@@internetvulture9250 Russian weapons are cheaply made, so third world nations can afford them. Its quantity vs quality.
@@internetvulture9250 The only countries buying inferior Russian military equipment are third world despotic regimes, who can't afford quality gear from western countries.
@Manny C Are you on crack? You must be brainwashed from Fake News CNN .Crimea, Luhansk, Donbas, Donetsk ,Mariupol already in the hand of the Russians are not wins?, they already have the territories that they came to Ukraine for.
@@leonieromanes7265 CNN FAKE NEWS.BRAINWASH
I'm very proud to be a Swede!
Yea keep supporting bloody terrorists against Turkey and be still proud.
Well spoken, informative, non sensational interview. So refreshing!
Go 🇸🇪
The Allies are with you.
NATO BOT
Standing together is the strength of NATO. Russia is weak because it can't cooperate with others.
@@fajarwirastaki689💯%
JAS was especially developed to take out MIGs, so they bring something else to the table to what US planes does, maybe not better but different.
The more tools there is in the toolbox the better.
According to the Russian side, Sweden’s JAS-39 Gripen-NG has absolutely no chance to win an air battle with its Su-35 and Su-30SM fighters.
According to Russian experts “It should be remembered that Sweden has not achieved any significant success in the development of fighter aircraft, although it has access to advanced electronic warfare (EW) systems.”
Damn….Russia a savage
@@isubtothebest6020 Those Russians need to stop smoking crack.
@@isubtothebest6020 lol, "russian experts".
We have all seen how russian military tech holds up against western weapons in the ukraine...
@@Tabacish and how many times have the US experts been wrong on the situation?
Hello from Sweden,
Our finance minister is right. Russian crisis and the sanctions against Russia have actually created a lot of opportunities for new jobs in Sweden, especially within the green sector. Sweden never was dependent on Russia, and it’s time for the rest of Europe to abandon Russian oil and gas completely. We can survive without countries being dependent on Russia. In fact, Swedish economy is actually booming despite the overall chaos in the rest of the world.
Cheers.
Gör den verkligen det? Kronan faller och en bostadskris ser ut att ligga på horisonten.
@@zoom5024
Jag borde kanske ha lagt till ”givet de förutsättningar och det ekonomiska läget som råder i hela världen”. Min uppfattning är att vi i Sverige ser en ekonomisk tillväxt trots recession i hela världen. Visst har vi en hel del utmaningar, men livet är inte perfekt. Jag tycker vi lyckas balansera rätt bra till skillnad mot många andra länder.
A contry with a view and indeed incredible technical resources, that's not so common! By the way, Finland is sure not to be underestimated either, I worked for them in the 80's, they were amongst the first to implement microprocessors in lots of domains, even before IBM built his first PC...
"His first pc.."?? IBM isn't a person.. it's the name of a company and stands for "International Business Machines"..
FWIW Finland introduced the world's first mobile phone network 10 years before IBM introduced its first PC in 1981 four years after I was the third person in Austin to buy a Tandy Rado Shack Z80 desktop microcomputer. Addition, subtraction, multiplication, but, sorry, no division. Woo-hoo, sold it for half price three weeks later and that schmuck won't see me in heaven.
@@Superknullisch indeed, its first office ready PC! Don't you remember Intel's and Zylog microprocessors on printed circuit boards or Commodore keyboard/computer needing an external TV? These were amongst the first play stations or micro computers based on microprocessors at at that time. Those microprocessors were also used in process control and utomatiin. , Fnnish company KONE used them very soon to manage multi-elevator groups, replacing old relay based technology while introducing "intelligent" management for the users, reducing user's wait times, especially in large buildings! In fact, KONE took over Westinghouse elevators business and modernized the technology behind it. KONE also became THE specialist in modern ports kranes and much more!
@@Superknullisch wow, u gotta feel smart somehow
@@Superknullisch F0
No doubt about it, the Gripen is one of the finest fighter jets in the world today. Not the stealthiest nor the fastest, but cheap to buy, cheap to fly, and simple to maintain for an aircraft that is deadly in a fight.
The Gripen E/F is very stealthy, not in the same fashion as the F-35 which uses airframe design shape and special radar-absorbing paint to remain stealthy, but by scrambling and jamming sensors, essentially a flying hacker. It's able to use targeting of one plane to target a plane that's out of reach normally too so one plane could fly close without giving itself away while feeding targeting data to it's buddies further back to act on. What it lacks is the size to perform larger scale bombings due to it being small and single-engine, but the extremely short turnaround time is supposed to make up for that, it already has a longer range than the F-35 (and is able to use drop tanks because that doesn't adversely affect it's type of stealth unlike the F-35 where if you fit equipment on the outside it negates it's stealth).
@@Rikard_Nilsson Interesting info
Agree. It is supposedly so simple to handle by ground crew, that the job can be done by just normal conscripts.
The whole idea of the Swedes is to take advantage of them pretty much living in a big forest, so their planes can make due with just roads and does require a massive setup to operate.
I wish we had went with their planes here in Denmark instead of the F-35.
@@Rikard_Nilsson Yeah, it's a considerably better fighter than the F-35 in all sorts of ways. The question, as always, is what kind of war are you going to be fighting? In modern air combat stealth is REALLY overrated. Comparing the Gripen E/F to the F-35 is not really a fair comparison anyway. To either aircraft. The Gripen is a better comparison to the F-16 C, which has a more comparable role.
Pragmatism is difficult to beat.
As a Swede, it’s amazing to see how absolutely supportive the NATO countries are of us and Finland
Tack så mycket NATO!
Love from Sweden
I remember an old Saab magazine ad, "A well built Swede for every need"
In real estate Sweden and Finland are on the best of sites and values. They should attract the best of prices.
Singapore uses Swedish made submarines , so Sweden is quite a military power that can rival russia
Sweden used to be Russia's rival before the U.S. until they defeated the Swedes at Poltava. Still, remnants of that mentality still exist with both parties.
they're more competent than russia so i think they are better than russia's army
but our military is very small, although the budget recently got doubled when russia invaded ukraine
All the Vikings are now on 'our' side. I can live with that. : )
Vikings would be ashamed on what has become of their land with illegal vermin flodding them all over the place
Happy to have our Brethren people in the NATO! Broderfolket længe leve!
Ja, min bror.
why am I not surprise that Sweden will have these capabilities. These countries are brilliant .
its like they gave Putin the middle finger by saying if you destroy our airbases we will just turn our roads into runways. 🤣
We started building road-runways in the late 50's, so that middle finger must've originally been intended for Khrushchev I guess? Well, it should work for Putin too!
@@carlkolthoff5402 And it is now extended firmly, proudly and eastwards, and Putler and his cronies can spin on it.
Any plans to take back your territory that St Petersburg is built on? Although I guess since partition that might be Finnish territory now.
I guess you guys can figure it out between yourselves and the decent people of that city diplomatically, democratically and peacefully once Putler's regime implodes.
Poland will of course get Koenigsberg back.
@@phillee2814 We don't really want it anymore though. We're happy with what we've got.
A few years ago a Swedish submarine got through all US defences and took out the aircraft carrier the Ronald Regan in a war game exercise.
So did one of the Royal Navy's, holding station under it for 3/4 of the exercise 😀
@@phillee2814 haha thats such a badass move
The Swedish army and the Swedish military industry have since the end of WW2 always had a single focus. Defending against an invasion from the east. And I'm not talking about Finland. This is more pertinent than ever.
Sweden has been heavily involved in almost all major war for many generations. Quality over quantity is what makes sweden Highly formidable force. Quality always wins against medium-low quality. Sweden and Finland took care of an area the size of the entire country of Portugal in Afghanistan. Quality over quantity always wins.
O, you mean, you too Win in Afghanistan not only USA?? Quality over quantity always wins. How many nukes do Russians have to use to overtake your quality? one, two, three? Wake up, there will not be a winner in WW3.
@Risto Kempas Afghanistan is not the only conflict that has happend. Sweden has been in Kosovo, Bosnia, Congo, Chad, Liberia, Afghanistan, Mali etc etc.
Going by the current conflict, yes the quality of the Ukraine forces sure beat the quantity of Russia. 😂
@@PSA78 Pentagone estimate Russian forces about 200-250 000 troops Ukrainian claim army personnel of 750 000. Are you still saying the Ukrainian quality beat the Russian quantity?
@@internetvulture9250 Your English is slipping, first day as a Russian troll? 🤦♂️
will be great to have such allies 🤩
Yer name and picture wth? lol!
As a swede I had a great smile watching this video
NATO should accept Sweden and Finland immediately,
@baileyboy73 baileyboy73 - its more that Turkey knows it can get something from being "hard-to-get".
@@Mosern1977 In simpler terms. Blackmailing the alliance.
Remember "peace can't be kept by force, only by understanding"
Sweeden does harbor and give supply to terror groups Turkey fights.
@@XXDJOZXX BS. Stop believing the stupid propaganda Erdogan pushes.
Saab gripped with avionics and weapons update And fast turnaround not to be trifled with- its only weakness is operational range, not an issue for anticipated theater in Scandinavia. When you add this to RAF and German euro fighters and French fighters , also world class, it would be possible to establish air dominance in a matter of a weeks-game over for any Russian offensive after that.
Yes, but those 6000 nuclear bombs that Russia has could be a problem tho :)
Russia has nukes. This means there will be no air dominance. There will be no war against Russia, or there will be the end of the world.
It is all a game of posturing. Posturing that will prevent them from invading Finland and Sweden for sure, but this war against Russia that everyone seems so exited about, will never happen.
Or if it does happen, we will all be burned to charcoal before we hear the news of it.
How would they compare in a head to head vs F22/F35? Maybe that's an overly simplistic question for those who know about these things but just curious. I assume they wouldn't fare very well overall, but relative to other countries AF's the euro fighters would do extremely well?
@@dreamer6737 Thats true,but the russians know that the minutte they try to launch a nuke in anger,they are destroyed as a nation!!Nato and the US would make russia a giant wasteland of radiation....So they would not dare to do that,unless they have a deathwish.
@@dc2778 I guess it comes down to if they can detect them.
Gripen is unique in that it is equipped with and can use several of the different systems used by other fighter jets seamlessly. It can get coordinats from other tracking systems and use it (I believe 360) and over horizon, making it possible to fire flying in another direction and out of sight.
But they would still need to find a stealth jet, that's usually easiest when you stand in front of it. 😂
As a Swede all these comments really warms my heart. Thank you all
swedish saab jets are some of the best in the world, theres a reason sweden doesnt buy the EU typhoon
Saab is an EU fighter. Sweden is in the EU. What are you like.
@@mow3186 im real sweet 🌼
And lots of good reasons why NATO countries should buy some Gripen E/Fs.
As the plans to assemble them in Lviv are clearly not currently possible, Sweden should strongly consider supplying some to Ukraine in the meantime, along with the necessary support and training. Being modular in nature, they can incorporate as much NATO capability as required, and be updated to full NATO compliance after Russia's terrorists are kicked out.
@@phillee2814 Nato have One Jas fighter.
@@magnusgranlund3138 The UK certainly does, but it is not assigned to NATO.
Sweden has balls. I like Sweden.
If Sweden keeps those planes up to date with maintenance, then if Russia invades, it's literally game over for Russia.
Why is that?
@@isubtothebest6020 The whole left media exposed how much of a joke in leadership Russia is in... How did you miss that?
@@DarthSailorMoo because biased stories don’t interest me, if Leadership determines succes or failure of a country, what would you consider USA to be?
@@isubtothebest6020 What does your acceptance of being gullible have to do with this conversation?
@@DarthSailorMoo lol what? What an idiotic statement that’s irrelevant to my previous comment 😂 you don’t need to say acceptance of being gullible, you can just say gullible. That tells me all I need to know , you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about 😂🤣
Sweden has wonderful engineering! Reminds me of German engineering! Both are excellent! 🇩🇪🇨🇭🇺🇲
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You are our germanic brothers
As an American , it's absolutely fantastic that Both Finland & Sweden are looking to join NATO and I Definitely hope that they'll both win there bids to join. Matter of fact I know they will. If Turkey wants to block them then they need to be over ruled or potentially looked at as needing to be removed...
Is that how it works?
@@nabiyev Nope and you know it! Even though it sounds democratically correct it works like this: All NATO countries gotta approve of a new country/member/ally to join. Erdogan is allowed to use this NATO rule as blackmail material to get what he wants from Sweden. Knowing Erdogan it doesn't even seem likely that he would approve of Sweden joining even if he got all he wanted and more. Come to think of it, I think I will name all my Rogue/Assassins etc in games to Erdogan :)
@@dongarippo7279 Not necessarily. There hasn't been a NATO member who was removed but it doesn't mean it can't be done. It is legally complicated but there have already been calls for Turkey to be at least suspended by quite a few member countries that are tired of Erdogan's duplicity and underhandedness.
Sweden population 10million all those technology from IKEA, Volvo, SAAB-Scania, ASEA, Electrolux, SKF, and L.M. Ericsson. Spotify.
"...technology from IKEA......" .....wtf....what technology...??? ...are you smoking something heavy stuff....???
....and by the way IKEA is not a Swedish company - it is Dutch.... - it has been so for something like 40 years since the owner Ingvard Kamprad (...and with him the company) left Sweden for avoiding Swedish taxes. Himself moved to Switzerland. I have no idea why Swedes are so proud of tax refuges who does not contribute to the Swedish society. Still both the Swedes and IKEA pretend it to be Swedish.....
Im Swedish but ehm... IKEA? Not a good comparison unless you want to assemble all equipment yourself and find out that parts are missing lol. Sweden is great, IKEA is great cause of its affordable furniture's as long as you can keep your temper and frustration when you put em together :).
@norm simpson 🤣🤣🤣
@@Dan-fo9dk So Philips is not Dutch? 😁
@@spartan7911 ....and when did I talk about Philips....???? Is that what one can call a confused, unrelated and random comment?
If russia is having a problem in ukraine, then what makes them think they can win against finland or sweden let alone them combined with NATO lol
Russia could never defeat Finland or Sweden separate. RU to weak. Only threat is nuke. Nothing else. 👍
@UC2YY0EntX8oxfnI3ylawyDw What problem? They've lost a lot of troops. They have lost a lot of equipment. With sanctions, they cannot repair said equipment. All you need to know is that China is not willing to take any risks to help Russia out in terms of parts or weapons. Why? They see Russia is actually an over-rated power that's weakening themselves. Russia is not worth the risk of their own economy, and besides, a weak russia would strengthen china's future influence on them. The longer the war goes, the weaker Russia gets economically and militarily. When the war ends and russia needs to rebuild their economy, expect china and India to take full advantage of their weakness.
They can't. The best they can do is say fuck it and end the world. Which, unfortunately is still valid.
Sometimes the decisions made by a leader with Parkinson's can be more dangerous than the battlefield....
God bless Sweden 🇸🇪 🙏 🙌 ❤️ ♥️ 😊 🇸🇪
Swedish Gotland class subs sank Nimitz class aircraft carriers in battle drills. Finnland may have the best artillery in Europe. ;-)
Well then that’s not a good sign
Finland has the best artillery in Europe easy, but Sweden has the best artillery system with the Archer.
I believe it took out the entire battle group, twice. They still couldn't find it.
@@PSA78 It took out the carrier, again and again for months/years. Not the entire carrier group.
But if that is better or worse I don't know
@@benghazi4216 Okay, it was some time ago that I read about so maybe I got it wrong. It might have said that it was protected by the group. 😄
The improved model is apparently on its way, so maybe that one will take care of the rest. 😝
We all over the World 🌍 STRONGLY SUPPORT Finland 🇫🇮 & Sweden 🇸🇪 to join the NATO organization. We wish you both countries successful missions!
If you truly support the people of Sweden, don’t make such a statement.
Great , Thank You ..😀
So you will see more dead bodies and more wars right?
Sweden has some of the best military hardware engineers in the world... Some of the best avionic engineers for sure also. Nothing comes out of Sweden as far as products go that are anything but top quality.. I've never seen a cheap junk product made in Sweden... Just as smart as the German's if not better...
Nordic countries furture air forces combined= 250 Norwegian, Danish and Finnish F35s, and Swedish Gripens. 🥳
That's crazy air force. 🔥
Swedish military is underrated....
The only downside of Swedish fighter jets is that they arrive in big cardboard box, all in pieces, and you have to assemble them yourself.
and its always missing a few screws 😂
Tremendous assets to NATO if they are accepted. Both countries have very strong military industrials. Our navy bought a couple of submarines from Sweden
I’m for Sweden and Finland
Go Sweden! The Jas Gripen E is a extraordinarie and high tech Aircraft!
Love the SAAb Grippen
a beast
I know Landing on highways and roads is very tricky, and takes great skill, but
Seems Highly strategic for maneuvering and easier to hide
*SAAB Gripen
Sweden has a company named SAAB ....not SABB. ...so you "know" how tricky it is to land on roads.... I guess you have done that a lot of times....
If you see Swedish fighter jets landing on roads in Sweden it is because Sweden built some roads so they could be used as runways in case of war,
@@jorgenmansson4269 But mainly it is the aircraft that is designed to land on a road.
It is reinforced in similar ways to US carrier jets, just because it needs to hit the ground fast and at a high angle of attack.
If you try this with another fighter, the F35A for example, it would break in half.
@@benghazi4216 Yes you are right, most of the Swedish fighter jets you see landing on roads is not the JAS GRIPEN it is the old DRAKEN and VIGGEN , they are strong enough to land on roads
Sweden is well prepared to deter any tyrant’s aggression
Yes and No... while Finland and Sweden do have a fantastically trained and equipped Armies, but they are still undermanned, and to a cretin extent, under equipped (particularly their Air Forces and Navies) while the JAS-39 Gripen is a fantastic light fighter, it is still a light fighter with a limited missile capacity (6 air to air missiles). Putin most likely not make the same mistakes as he did in Ukraine, if Russia does attack Finland and Sweden before they fully join NATO, Russia would probably formally declare war, allowing Putin to utilize the entire might of the Russian military and not a limited number at any single time, like in Ukraine...
0:53 that's my company and buddies right there! So proud to be a mechanic for the Swedish Airforce and the magnificient Gripen and soon also a member of Nato!
I’m happy they’re going to be in Nato. I would accept Sweden or Finland in Nato before Greece or Turkey.
If turkey keeps using their veto, can we kick them out?
@@MattyJ55046 No you can't... And no one would dare kicking out the second largest standing force in NATO for Sweden or Finland.
That's because you obviously know absolutely nothing about geopolitics.
Now that Trump's gone it's back to high priced gasoline and War
@@MattyJ55046 There is no mechanism for kicking a country out.
What could happen then is that a new alliance is made - something like "Nordic-Baltic Defense Alliance" - where a number of countries could sign on and use a similar system as NATO.
This made me proud of my country and our finance minister. He hade many good points and he was as forthcoming as possible the interview.
No nonsense talk or talking a lot while saying nothing at all.
Makes me feel good to be a part of all that as a Swedish citizen. Good news
Sweden does have a formidable airforce.
Greece welcomes Sweden and Finland to NATO with open arms 🇬🇷 ❤ 🇸🇪 ❤ 🇫🇮
Efcharistó aderfé!
So does 🇬🇧 UK
@@Souperflysi Got a special place in my heart for the UK. And not only because my ancestors raped and pillaged yours.. :D
@@theTeknoViking so what other reasons then, let me guess, you and your family were educated by us. 🧐
@@Souperflysi
Educated by the UK? Nah, me and my family were all educated in Swedish schools and at Uni here.
The reason why I like the UK is that I visit friends there regularly. I also spent a recent year and a half living and working in England (I'm in tech, paid a lot of taxes! :P), and I get along very well with you guys, I think we share a lot of values and cultural inclinations.
No offense intended, just a friendly jab about the vikings, it's been a thousand years.. get over it :D
Anyone who understands modern warfare will appreciate the military capabilities of these two countries. Russia would not last long against either of them.
Sweden is a Tech giant. So is Finland.
Just look at IT and computing.
Finland invented IRC, first webbrowser, Linux, SSH protocol and much more.
Agreed! Doesn't stop there, TPB, highest tier fighter jets, submarines, rifles, A-Ts, the GPS, Bluetooth, Dynamite, the Zipper, Safety belt, ball bearing, ultrasound, pacemaker etc etc.
Bless you Finland, fucking bless the Scandinavian peninsula, it's a haven of invention. Much love from Sweden!!
@@G-howie bluetooth is dutch
@@jackbananas3204 nah man, not really 😅It was initiated & developed out of Lund, Sweden. If you're referring to Dutchman Jaap Haartsen he was indeed dutch but simply an employee helping inventor Nils Rudbeck, CTO @ Ericsson Mobile in Sweden at the time 👍
Here, you can read its history yourself: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth
Sweden is amazing 🇸🇪 🥰
Sweden's planes are pretty impressive..
So is every other fighter jet
@@isubtothebest6020 Lol, no they're not. Considering Sweden is a country of 10 million yet single handedly designed a 4+ gen fighter. Meanwhile India, a country with a 130x bigger population and many times bigger GDP can't even develop their Tejas without substantial Western help. China the same thing, they have 150x the population size and by far the biggest GDP on earth, yet they still produce inferior fighters, the performance of their jet engines sorely lacking and not producing the required amount of thrust.
@@pieterveenders9793 the required amount of thrust to do what? Lol are those claims made by you or….?
@@pieterveenders9793 China currently is developing 5th gen aircraft, they already (though problematic) J20s. They seem confident enough on their new engines to install them on their latest variant of the single engine J10C. Their Flanker jets have domestic avionics and potent bvr capabilities. I know the "anything China makes is trash" mentality is still strong in the West but underestimating them is a terrible mistake. Prepare for the worst, see them as a rival capable of fielding potent weapons and advanced technology, this way you won't be caught off guard.
@@pieterveenders9793 well, none of the recent Saab jets have been developed _single handedly_ by swedish engineers. Since the Viggen in 1967, the US and UK have been involved as well with engine and radar equipment. With the Viggen the US reliance became a problem as the US blocked them from being exported to other countries.