The Genesis Archive Documentary 1 (VH1 Classic - In Full)

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    Thanks to EppingForest DVD for sourcing and uploading this to DVD format.
    Kindly reproduced from their source.
    This is a documentary on the band produced for Vh1 Classic in support of the first Archive box set.
    Upscaled and slightly edited for cohesiveness.
    Narrated by Ray Wilson
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  • @lastdaysguitar
    @lastdaysguitar 9 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    IMHO Steve Hackett was such a huge but underrated part of the magic to their sound.

    • @bandfromtheband9445
      @bandfromtheband9445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Absolutely! Steve was a brilliant and integral part of Genesis! He was replaced by an American with permed hair, named Darryl Stuermer, who had none of the nuances of Steve Hackett's technique. Such a freaking shame!

    • @PeterMayer
      @PeterMayer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Rodzilla I hear you. But he did do a good job even though in later years, retrospectively, the sound was not as integral or interwoven like Steve. But don't blame him. He stepped in and did a solid job in guitar and bass.

    • @markrae1317
      @markrae1317 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In what possible universe is Steve Hackett underrated? I don't know anyone who doesn't rate him very highly...

    • @lastdaysguitar
      @lastdaysguitar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@markrae1317 Riiiiight: 99 out of 100 people do not even know who he is! And THAT is a crime.
      He's popular among guitarists especially 40-65yo.

    • @shawnmalie2597
      @shawnmalie2597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don’t know if he’s underrated! They survived Gabriel leaving, trick and wind and wuthering was awesome. When Hackett left the sound changed.

  • @bandfromtheband9445
    @bandfromtheband9445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Ant was extraordinary in early Genesis. His playing on Trespass was outstanding. Steve fell right into step, NOT copying Ant's sounds or style, but he had the same sensibilities and talent. What transpired from there on out was truly brilliant! By Nursery Crime, they had found their niche and it only got better and better. Once Phil joined, they were a force to be reckoned with! It still brings me too many goosebumps after all of these years!

    • @bandfromtheband9445
      @bandfromtheband9445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Their History is still fascinating!

    • @Eleventhearlofmars
      @Eleventhearlofmars 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should of said many too many goosebumps lol.

    • @geoffreylogsdon162
      @geoffreylogsdon162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Be sure to check an Ant Phillips piece called 'F Sharp', which is basically the entire framework for The Musical Box. Yup, Ant basically wrote the foundation of that song and it would not exist if he hadn't.

    • @geoffreylogsdon162
      @geoffreylogsdon162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bandfromtheband9445 Yeah, maybe second only to The Beatles. A fascinating tale spanning 50 years of lineup and musical changes, and for 10 of the 11 members (RlP John Mayhew) to all be on good terms and/or best friends is absolutely extraordinary. Something you will not see with ANY other band.
      And when Mayhew passed away about 35 years after being dismissed from the band after one album (Trespass in 1970), Tony Banks posted something very nice about him on the Genesis website, and even more extraordinarily, Steve Hackett posted a very sweet eulogy on his website, even though they never played together! They have always been friendly and respectful to each other, as important members of this very important band! All very classy guys. Possibly the only glaring issue is between Banks and Hackett, but Tony has even become more respectful of Hackett in the past decade or so, going so far as to say Hackett's Blood On The Rooftops is his favorite Genesis track. That may not make up for everything but that has to make Steve feel good.
      I always wanted to hear a Hackett/Phillips album, l think they could do something great together. Not too late!

  • @EixtremeDrummer
    @EixtremeDrummer 9 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I still think those guys have not realized yet about how great was the music they created. They impacted me definitely. In my musical life (what means in all my life) there was a before and an after Genesis. They became the center of my musical life. In fact, my daughter's second name is Genesis.
    Many thanks for this docu.

    • @tudvalstone
      @tudvalstone 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      extremadrummer They probably think they evolved and cannot recapture that spirit. It's left to us, mere mortals, to see their brilliance as it always was. It happened to others. I remember Woody Allan saying he cannot watch his old movies, he gets embarrassed. He must be the only one. He took chances for sure and sometimes, rarely, it didn't work all that well, but when it did he was brilliant and a class above anybody else.

    • @ziltox711
      @ziltox711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I still think they could get back together with Steve and put out great music!

  • @anthonycoe1019
    @anthonycoe1019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I was in a band in 1966 called 'The Epics' with drummer John Mayhew R.I.P. who preceded Phil Collins.

    • @TheGenesisArchive
      @TheGenesisArchive  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Wow Anthony, that is not something we were aware of. Thank you for sharing.

    • @Eleventhearlofmars
      @Eleventhearlofmars 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What kind of music were you playing at this time? Covers?

    • @bmardon2112
      @bmardon2112 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was he a nice guy?

    • @anthonycoe1019
      @anthonycoe1019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Eleventhearlofmars Yes.

    • @anthonycoe1019
      @anthonycoe1019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bmardon2112 Yes, a gentle soul.

  • @60s70s80sMusicFan
    @60s70s80sMusicFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When I visited London on one of my trips there, I checked out some of music related places like Charisma Records head office. I think it was on Wardour St. I walked aournd the front office and spoke to one of the staff there about the label and in particular Genesis. I asked the really knowledgeable person what the biggest selling Genesis album was up to that point. She asked me to turn around and look at the wall and there was ..And Then There Were Three. She told me this was not only their biggest seller, but the fastest seller upon release. Charisma had many artists on their label. Im certain I have not heard some of the bands even Van Der Graft Generator. She told me she saw Genesis at Sadler's Wells Theatre which is a great little venue in Islington, right near Angel Station where I stayed at the LSE dorms during the summer. I met Steve Hackett in Toronto at an in store record signing, very nice guy.

  • @markmcintyre1360
    @markmcintyre1360 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    They had the coolest albums and the coolest album covers!

    • @60s70s80sMusicFan
      @60s70s80sMusicFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes the Lamb;s Hipgnosis concept cover was great I think. Selling England is a great cover. The artist was an older British woman aparently. Their worst album cover by far is the one for their album Genesis (from 1981 I think0 Hugh Padgam production, good record but aweful cover artwork.

  • @frepi
    @frepi 10 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Even if I try, I can't stop loving this music and its era. I have to finally accept that I am an old grumpy man that is bound to complain, like my forefathers, about the lack of imagination of today's bands.

    • @trqsdays1
      @trqsdays1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      You're not "old," and you're not "grumpy." You have EXCELLENT TASTE

    • @Eleventhearlofmars
      @Eleventhearlofmars 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There is some good stuff about now especially Porcupine tree, they are fantastic, if your a prog/genesis fan you should take to this band and Steven Wilson on his own, infact Steven Wilson has done a lot of work on bands like YES back catalogue remixing old material and works with the likes of Steve Hackett

    • @ThEiLLtechNICIAN
      @ThEiLLtechNICIAN 10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Dude....I think in this era age has nothing to do with it. Music is just horrible today. You don't have to be talented, you just have to be attractive. I'm 29 yrs old, and Idk if anyone considers me a grumpy old man, but music is dead in general. The Internet and downloading songs is what put the nail in the coffin. No more complete albums, just pop singles downloaded through itunes.

    • @frepi
      @frepi 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ThEiLLtechNICIAN You raise a very valid point. Many times I bought an lp for one song but listening to the whole album (changing tune was a hassle these days), I ended up discovering pieces that were rarely played on the radio and in the end, liking them more that the song I had bought the lp for. In the same situation today, I would have bought the one song I liked and never would have come to listen to the hidden gems.

    • @BeeBumper
      @BeeBumper 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ThEiLLtechNICIAN Exactly, I even miss some of the cool album art that was included in LPs and the process of putting the album on and going over the album cover inside and out looking for some of their creative images to accompany their album. Autotune is the death of talent, it's so prevalent in everything you hear today it's no wonder there is so few acts that can play live with the skill of bands such as Yes, Genesis, Fleetwood Mac and Pink Floyd.

  • @jimmurphy834
    @jimmurphy834 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They shaped music for the upcoming decades and for that I say thank you.
    1971-1974 material was ahead of its time.

  • @Nerfball6
    @Nerfball6 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Lamb is my absolute favorite Genesis album.

    • @vickycortez2644
      @vickycortez2644 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Lamb is my absolute favorite album, no tdsotm, no ctta, no bss, no itcokc, etc.etc.etc. No other like The Lamb, period!

  • @stevej2797
    @stevej2797 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel so privileged to have grown up enjoying both Peter and Phil on vocals with Genesis. Their music such a important factor in my youth. Watching this brought tears of happiness of memories past..
    Today's music NOT EVEN CLOSE...

  • @johndee4519
    @johndee4519 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i love these guys...I cant stop watching docs on them!! Must be their music!

  • @jimmckinney1685
    @jimmckinney1685 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    PC says he’s a yes for a 5-piece reunion if he can play drums, and dead-serious says he’s not interested in singing. He’s well-established as one of the biggest singers in the world when he’s saying that. Gotta love that guy.

  • @pvs6464
    @pvs6464 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you Ray Wilson for the narration, well done.

    • @geoffreylogsdon162
      @geoffreylogsdon162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Poor Ray. A+ for effort. They should have made one more album.

  • @paulgibson3312
    @paulgibson3312 8 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Steve, you're the best and the one who really love Genesis. And an incredible part of the real Genesis sound. When Peter left, the band kept his sound but when Steve left... Genesis not longer existed as a prog band.

    • @kimgarner5743
      @kimgarner5743 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Steve was an artist in his own wright.

    • @ankihansen2489
      @ankihansen2489 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paul Gibson No Genesis without Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford!

    • @mikewest1542
      @mikewest1542 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here here , well said ! One good album after Steve left and after that ........

    • @ziltox711
      @ziltox711 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      exactly! and thats what made his first solo album such a great album because it was almost like Genesis 2.0!

    • @bandfromtheband9445
      @bandfromtheband9445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Adding Stuermer to the the mix was a huge mistake! He was no Steve Hackett, And he looked ridiculous on stage with Genesis

  • @nidhavellir
    @nidhavellir ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the best Genesis documentaries yet.

  • @pendragon6207
    @pendragon6207 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's absolutely astonishing that they wrote recorded 'Trespass' and 'Nursery Cryme' barely 20 years old. They're absolute masterpieces, and while there is definitely great music being made today, I frankly can't imagine a bunch of 20 year olds creating such epic musical compositions and, frankly, journeys, today. Not that the talent doesn't possibly exist, but such a wide array of talent in one single band is a rarity. On top of the record companies actually having the balls to release such experimental and different music, something I sincerely doubt would happen today.

  • @blanebiondolillo4930
    @blanebiondolillo4930 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember going to the lamb lies down on broadway concert/genesis,what a wonderful moment in time that was, seeing this brings back

  • @soulmusic607
    @soulmusic607 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Genesis is: Gabriel, Banks, Rutherford, Collins, Hackett. Other combinations, even if good, are something else.

    • @soulmusic607
      @soulmusic607 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Nelson Robert Willis Yes why not? I meant "something else" after Gabriel and Hackett left the band.

    • @historica0248
      @historica0248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So Genesis is: Gabriel, Rutherford, Banks, Phillips, Mayhew; Gabriel, Rutherford, Banks, Hackett, Collins; and Rutherford, Banks, Hackett, Collins.

    • @bandfromtheband9445
      @bandfromtheband9445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@historica0248 That's such a ridiculous thing to say.....................come on!!!

    • @historica0248
      @historica0248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bandfromtheband9445 I'd say not. It covers the band from Trespass to Wind and Wurthering. It is a reasonable assessment.

    • @johnchedsey1306
      @johnchedsey1306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think you get to decide that.

  • @briancherry8088
    @briancherry8088 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its amazing to think that this documentary is almost as old, as the Lamb was when the documentary was released.

  • @williamthaightii
    @williamthaightii 8 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I cannot believe they "yada-yada"-ed Selling England By The Pound, the pinnacle artistic achievement by the band across its history.

    • @7777Scion
      @7777Scion 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Will Haight - that's just an opinion - I love the album, but "Epping Forest" has problems as a unified piece; Nursery Chryme and Foxtrot have no problems and are great end-to-end

    • @Eleventhearlofmars
      @Eleventhearlofmars 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Will Haight Hackett doesn’t diss it, it’s his fave. These guys are always critical of their earlier work because they’ve learnt over the years that some lyrics don’t sing well like watcher of the skies lyrics and it’s for reasons like that they poo poo their older work, personally I couldn’t care less that some lyrics don’t sing well in their catalogue, I love it for the thought , originality and diversity that went into it.

    • @robbieclark7828
      @robbieclark7828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      7777Scion I’d rather listen to a “problematic” Battle of Epping Forest than a boring Time Table or Harlequin.

    • @Eleventhearlofmars
      @Eleventhearlofmars 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Robbie Clark timetable and harlequin are not boring.

    • @robbieclark7828
      @robbieclark7828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Marcdoubleu22LFC I mean I’m a huge early Genesis fan, so I don’t necessarily think so, but if I were on the Titanic with the entire Genesis discography, I’d be getting the life rafts ready for songs like Battle of Epping Forest before I make accommodations for “Your Own Special Way”. It’s all good, but equally good? No.

  • @juliablackmore6952
    @juliablackmore6952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From Keith Jones drummer now retired to Cornwall. Good to see this film from top group Genesis. In fact the group we formed called Flying Fortress from North Devon and Cornwall can be seen in this film a poster from Melody Maker (around 1971) when we played at Ewell college with Genesis,

  • @TiagoSantos-ld6qf
    @TiagoSantos-ld6qf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Genesis in that era,were one of the greatest musical magics ever.

  • @Stephtrooper
    @Stephtrooper 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Phil got the Genesis job on my birthday. Well, in 1970, but still.

  • @islandbirdw
    @islandbirdw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Recently I stumbled on Ant Phillips demo for music box. It struck me how much his melodic composition for the 12 string sounded like Genesis albums in which he didn’t directly participate. His style went on to echo within the band so many years later.

    • @geoffreylogsdon162
      @geoffreylogsdon162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes! It is part of an Ant piece called F Sharp. Ant's contribution cannot be overestimated, you can hear it straight through Trick Of The Tail (not so much on The Lamb though 😜 ).

  • @mootbooxle
    @mootbooxle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The best band EVER!

  • @ronjm945
    @ronjm945 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ahh the classic lineup of a phenomenal band...

  • @noamgonen6243
    @noamgonen6243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The story behind people/groups who invented or built something is as interesting as what they’ve built sometimes. What a unique group of talented individuals - I’d give anything to be a fly on the wall at their early rehearsals to watch that famous synergy and animosity that brought about this genius creative work prosuct

  • @53plaat
    @53plaat 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've read the story many many times, I've seen documantaries on the group over and over again but this story keeps interesting and romantic, thanks!

  • @lornestein7248
    @lornestein7248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think it's quite clear that for Steve going back to re-record his parts, really was the impetus to start Genesis Revisited.

  • @MrKayley10
    @MrKayley10 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you. Been looking for this for ages. You're doing a great service to Genesis fans worldwide! Keep up the good work!

  • @charleslsegal
    @charleslsegal 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for posting this film, I've never seen it before, a real treat for a lifelong Genesis fan.

  • @MrDeckerrekcer
    @MrDeckerrekcer 8 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I couldn't help thinking how great a Hackett and Gilmour collaboration might have been.

    • @andrewhughes170
      @andrewhughes170 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably brilliant. ...

    • @parisstromatias637
      @parisstromatias637 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@andrewhughes170 defenatly Brilliant

    • @geoffreylogsdon162
      @geoffreylogsdon162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I always hoped for a Hackett/Ant Phillips collaboration. How cool would that be?

    • @audiojunkie1047
      @audiojunkie1047 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow... never thought of this. Would be brilliant to hear a collaboration.
      Caught some Gilmore and Beck on TH-cam... another pairing would love to hear a CD of !!!

  • @DocModoc
    @DocModoc 9 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Pete looks just like Dr. Evil with his bald head and tunic, he just needs a hairless cat!
    "I want friggin' lambs lying down on friggin' Broadway with friggin' laser beams on their friggin' heads!"

    • @bethshadowen904
      @bethshadowen904 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Mr Marcus I actually lolled hahah

    • @andremdesouza
      @andremdesouza 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And who is the Minimin? Phil?

    • @mikewest1542
      @mikewest1542 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr Marcus , Peter G looked pretty cool here, before the silly grey goatee beard, it was only a few years before when Pete had a lovely head of hair, and no I’m not a hairdresser !

  • @jocelynstarwiththesweetads1578
    @jocelynstarwiththesweetads1578 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had bought this 4CD Box Set for My Husband when it was 1st released & Unfortunately my dog broke 2 Cd's (My Fault). I have been Searching to Replace it & have finally found it on Amazon. I Pray that it is Still There on 12/ 3/16 when I have the Money! Thank You for Posting! It is a Great Collection for Any Real GENESIS Fan!

  • @roland301260
    @roland301260 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bought the archive box when it was published in 1998 but now seen this insightful documentation here for the first time. Many thanks

    • @posersaretrash2
      @posersaretrash2 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** absolutely

    • @whoitisnot
      @whoitisnot 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** Your loss.

    • @posersaretrash2
      @posersaretrash2 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      whoitisnot ITS TRUE , THE REAL VERSION OF THE ONCE GREAT BAND!!!!!

  • @littlestevey4172
    @littlestevey4172 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Tony is an extreme Perfectionist that is why people hate him so much but he contributed greatly to their early sound.. Without him no Prog Genesis.!

    • @geoffreylogsdon162
      @geoffreylogsdon162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Who hates Tony Banks?

    • @andrewarthurmatthews6685
      @andrewarthurmatthews6685 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I find Banks still a humorless sour and uptight individual. He always felt Genesis was his band and he definitely did not like the theatrical aspects that Gabriel brought to the band . Without Gabriel they would not have reached the heights they did .

  • @pablomalaga4676
    @pablomalaga4676 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the best documentaries on prog music

  • @kentborges5114
    @kentborges5114 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To this day Genesis is thee BEST ! Way ahead of their time !

  • @ciaranparker6695
    @ciaranparker6695 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for all the brilliant music have been listening to Genesis since I was 8 due to older brothers spent so many hours listening to all the albums up to the Lam Trick of the Tail. The box set us brilliant

  • @gotham61
    @gotham61 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @ 34:57 "It's extraordinary what you can find in your tuck box." Haha, I've still got my school tuck box stuck away somewhere. Maybe I should take a look after 40 plus years.

  • @nat00ben06
    @nat00ben06 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Idk I think my favorite album was Trick of the Tail, even though it was without Peter. It rocked was soulful and funky, Phil kicked ass.

    • @calebbartlett367
      @calebbartlett367 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Ripples" is by far the best song Genesis ever wrote imo

    • @katherineskullr6048
      @katherineskullr6048 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Caleb Bartlett
      I agree!

    • @Cryo837
      @Cryo837 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Entangled is pure magic. Favorite song by Genesis.

  • @tylerdod9838
    @tylerdod9838 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i love prog music so much i dont even have words....

    • @parisstromatias637
      @parisstromatias637 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Young man I hope I can give you a tip the British started the progressive rock music and after a while progressive rock bands from other countries started playing too but the most important bands for me are six from Britain all of them and they are Pink floyd Genesis Yes Emerson Lake and Palmer Camel and Peter Hamil and the Van Den Graaf Generator ENJOY

  • @slavenbozic1237
    @slavenbozic1237 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    By far the best album they made, from genesis to revelation... that is just an amazing concept with brilliant yet simple melodic songs. Love it and its something I always visit.
    But all their Gabriel albums are amazing, that period of their music history left a real mark on rock music.

  • @dummytree
    @dummytree 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you. Your website is fantastic.

  • @TheGenesisArchive
    @TheGenesisArchive  8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Can people please keep this comment section free from abuse, it's getting out of hand. We will remove comment threads that are unnecessarily abusive.

    • @ankihansen2489
      @ankihansen2489 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TheGenesisArchive You're so agressive, but thanks for the upload

    • @genesisforever4146
      @genesisforever4146 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wa replying to someone 6 months ago called alden21 that called me a nutzie, he deleted his comments, :D

    • @ciaranparker6695
      @ciaranparker6695 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No need for abuse the past and present members of Genesis are gentlemen no ego trips or negativity

    • @Eleventhearlofmars
      @Eleventhearlofmars 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are some nutcase accounts that are often to be seen on Genesis videos. There’s one comes to mind who’s got about 10 accounts and is obsessed with saying NO GABRIEL NO HACKETT NO GENESIS, he plasters his comments all over lots of the 78 onwards vids. I had to block about 5 accounts because of him.

    • @amandabooth6138
      @amandabooth6138 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Eleventhearlofmars well if he likes Gabriel keep him in blocked mode and don't let him back please. Not a Gabriel fan and tried of the Gabriel worship.

  • @dougmphilly
    @dougmphilly 10 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    good to see ant on this..."tresspass" is terribly under rated

    • @ericpiazzi3444
      @ericpiazzi3444 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      the knife is terribly underated

    • @ciaranparker6695
      @ciaranparker6695 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree love that album

    • @bandfromtheband9445
      @bandfromtheband9445 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trespass is an amazing album. When Steve Hackett was hired when Ant left, Steve filled the perfect void. Steve did an amazing job up until late 1977 when he decided to leave the band.

    • @williamj268
      @williamj268 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It sure is. I like it better than their 2 consecutieve albums as a whole

  • @geoffreyjonathanwilson9932
    @geoffreyjonathanwilson9932 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watched this video regularly back in the late '90's.
    Timeless British band for sure ☺️

  • @markhunter8554
    @markhunter8554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In the early 80's, whenever someone would ask me who my favorite band was, I'd answer 'Genesis', but then I'd have to say: 'but not the Genesis that they play on the radio.'

  • @BCTGuitarPlayer
    @BCTGuitarPlayer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I graduated high school in 75 and was not aware of the band until that time. I first heard nursery crime and became addicted to the band until Peter left. After wind and withering, I lost interest. I’ve learned more from watching this than I did from that time till this so thanks very much for putting us up.

  • @larryfisher8332
    @larryfisher8332 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I remember in the '80's I didn't even know that Peter Gabriel was once the lead singer of Genesis. LOL He stands on his own two feet and shouldn't be worried about the shadow of Genesis.

    • @amandabooth6138
      @amandabooth6138 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Larry fisher, you didn't miss anything because peter wasn't that great but some of these people act like he was the greatest thing since God. Way overrated musician and you all said phil sold but also peter sold out to.

  • @lancesmith2500
    @lancesmith2500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They needed each other. PG, and the band knew it was time to part.

  • @siskokidd
    @siskokidd 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Remarkable story, from it's roots on through the changes, and the incredible solo success of the two singers.

  • @liberalmind8680
    @liberalmind8680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Genesis were really good

  • @robbieclark7828
    @robbieclark7828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Gabriel looks like the picture of Syd Barrett from when he randomly showed up at the Wish You Were Here sessions

    • @Eleventhearlofmars
      @Eleventhearlofmars 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😆😂😆😂👍🏼

    • @kyles5513
      @kyles5513 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except Peter has eyebrows.

  • @tarunkarthik9954
    @tarunkarthik9954 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Genesis of me discovering Genesis changed my life. I improved drastically in drums, and of course vocals. I just wish I could go back in time when they were emerging

  • @canturgan
    @canturgan 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Phil Collins is an underrated drummer (not by musicians), some people don't even know he can play the drums, they think he's a singer. He is a good harmoniser but is a bit lightweight vocally. As a drummer he is world class.

    • @canturgan
      @canturgan 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Ronald Mitch There have been quite a few drummers who were also singers.

    • @nat00ben06
      @nat00ben06 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The album Face Values his vocals are strong Collins as a vocal lightweight you must be talking about some other Phil Collins. Maybe you're talking about Paul Collins or Pierre Collins or Patrick Collins.

    • @canturgan
      @canturgan 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Billy Pilgrim American Psycho

    • @TheGenesisArchive
      @TheGenesisArchive  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The film "American Psycho" does indeed feature many songs from Phil Collins and also Genesis material.

    • @DDaSilva1980
      @DDaSilva1980 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He could be quite a good rock singer as he showed on Mama and Land Of Confusion.

  • @adamtzsch
    @adamtzsch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Gabriel is the coolest mother****er on the planet.

  • @Wayner71
    @Wayner71 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's great to see and hear the legendary John Silver finally.

  • @looneytunes47
    @looneytunes47 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This band are made up of true genuine focused musicians that always shrived to get better and better at there craft.

  • @kelamram
    @kelamram ปีที่แล้ว

    This was awesome. Thanks for posting! PC cracks me up. I would have loved to have seen their writing process.

  • @geoffreylogsdon162
    @geoffreylogsdon162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh man, the end of this is a heartbreaker, where you can *almost* see, at the time, a window for the 5 of them to do something together (barring Tony, who says he is not interested!). The killer is Phil... seeing how things have turned out. He says yes, instantly, but only if he plays drums..."I've got no interest in singing".
    That is such a heavy comment l am not sure l want to try to unpack it completely...it does make one pause to think about what it meant for him to take over as the singer, which was a *Herculean* task. It was the best decision they could have made as a replacement for Peter, but l think the sacrifice Phil made as a drummer was always a regret for him. And now, not being able to drum at all, in the band he spent his life drumming for, must be devastating.
    I believe that is tied to his insistence that his son play drums on this 2021 tour. Not only is Nic a drummer totally suited to the material, l think that is a deep connection that Phil needs, like he can almost see himself playing onstage.
    Wow, sorry, a little armchair psychoanalysis there.
    The last thing l will say...if, at the very last upcoming Genesis show, in the UK, l believe... for the very last song they will ever play together, which will be Carpet Crawlers, if Peter does not show up to sing that with Phil something in the universe is terribly, terribly wrong.
    Or maybe not such a great idea, l think everyone in the building would dissolve into a pool of tears.

    • @halcyon289
      @halcyon289 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great comment. I thought it would've been a good idea to have the double drums on the last tour with Nick on permanent drums and Simon on percussion and backing vocals alongside the other two backing vocalists , and (as Phil used to do when there was space for him to play ) play alongside Simon on another kit during the long instrumental passages.
      Just a thought.

  • @phildamion6477
    @phildamion6477 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you, i shared on facebook, im sure my friends will appreciate

  • @cmikex2
    @cmikex2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Still find Anthony Phillips an interesting erudite person.He seems fair to all his old band mates.

  • @music-mad-lover5004
    @music-mad-lover5004 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 42:11, Peter was basically saying "Excuse me I'm not the man I used to be. Someone else crept in again I wanna be alone". "I Know What I Like", So it's a knock out, with the "Sledgehammer", "Big time" and "Lead a Normal Life".

  • @henkehakansson2004
    @henkehakansson2004 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I find it peculiar one thing. The "GENESIS LIVE" was a single LP. In those days, not anything beyong 30-40 minutes. They must've recorded a full concert from beginning to end. Which must've been at least 90 minutes.I wonder if the whole tape of it exists, since it's pulled from ONE concert and ONE concert hall. It can't be that bad, the rest of the concert. Would love to hear it all in sequence.
    Of course with Peters in between tunes banters and chatter with the hecklers of the audience. Almost a stand-up comedy routine.

    • @marssilver
      @marssilver 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      henkehakansson2004 they did "suppers ready" from that show but it was too long to keep on the record so they took that one out, sadly

    • @henkehakansson2004
      @henkehakansson2004 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, but today, the tapes of the whole show must still exist. It's no problem cramming it all in into one CD even, and definitely not a download problem, or Spotify, iTunes release of course. I mean, the rest of it, not the entire gig again, in that case, we have that already. It would be fun though.

    • @marssilver
      @marssilver 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      henkehakansson2004 yeah they definitely have it , I remember when limewire was still around i downloaded the entire show, I just don't know why they haven't officially released the entire show yet..probably cuz peter wants nothing to do with his genesis past

    • @amandabooth6138
      @amandabooth6138 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well hecklers are right because peter is just a weirdo and overrated.

  • @Schimnesthai
    @Schimnesthai 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Genesis has had many people entering and going, but i'd like to see Genesis as a 7-piece, with the typical 5 but also with Anthony Phillips and Ray Wilson.

  • @pim1234
    @pim1234 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The music of my youth ...

  • @ngericso3875
    @ngericso3875 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How I wish someone can arrange the reunion of these five guys but I know it's really mission impossible.....

    • @paulchoccyt1303
      @paulchoccyt1303 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anastasiapedersen1 Phil won't sing though and can't play drums........ They had an opportunity in 2006 and Peter wasn't interested.

  • @byronlemay2166
    @byronlemay2166 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Genesis Live"...certainly among one of the best live albums ever. That album was my introduction to the Gabriel era in 1986, when I was 23 years old. I was very familiar with the band as it was at that time...but was completely unaware of that earlier music. Listening to that album blew my mind. I was familiar with and a fan of "technical" music...Rush, Queen, Yes, ELP, Tull, etc...but I'd never heard anything quite like that. At the end of this video...Phil is up for a reunion and would be quite happy to just play the drums. Steve would certainly show up...the problem is that Peter absolutely cannot stand Tony anymore. It didn't happen because of that. Too bad...much too late now.

  • @patriciadenis8767
    @patriciadenis8767 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good, very good. Thank you very much... from Paris...

  • @DanielGonzalez-eq4ow
    @DanielGonzalez-eq4ow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am sure, from the sound of the voice, that the person who narrates this documentary is Ray Wilson.

  • @astropilotred
    @astropilotred 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Truly Wonderful, Thanks! Makes me want to hear the Lamb with Peters and Steve's improvements! Also Love Genesis BUT Yes was and is My All Time Fav!

  • @EloyGijon67
    @EloyGijon67 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mayhew wasn't recruited through MM at all. As he himself said, he vastly gave out his phone number in London area until someone passed it on to Mike Rutherford, who actually rang him.

  • @happyguyx1
    @happyguyx1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    mike dont underestimate genesis---i loved yous from that genesis to revelation----ye that king one-----i loved it-----it was all there n each album

  • @Alvicado
    @Alvicado 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Genesis best with Gabriel and Hackett

  • @slw59
    @slw59 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pete & Tony should make an album together.

    • @geoffreylogsdon162
      @geoffreylogsdon162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have often wondered over the years why things like that haven't happened, and l think it may really be down to growing apart musically.
      I could not, and still can't, understand how Mike and Ant Phillips were best mates and collaborators on Geese & The Ghost and Smallcreep's Day, then suddenly never collaborated again. I have mentioned elsewhere that l would love to hear a Hackett/Phillips album, how cool would that be?

    • @slw59
      @slw59 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@geoffreylogsdon162 That would be great. A Banks/Gabriel album would be so cool. When I hear songs like 'The Lamia', I think what a powerful songwriting team they were. I'm sure Tony would be up for it. I think Peter is the one who would need persuading.

  • @marguskiis7711
    @marguskiis7711 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Ant looks like he`s still 27.

    • @mrlarvux
      @mrlarvux 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really late, but Mike looked great here too.

    • @Eleventhearlofmars
      @Eleventhearlofmars 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was from 1998 when this box set came out. VH1 showed this docu in conjunction with the set being released. I remember buying the box set for £40 when it was first released and was made up listening to a well recorded lamb concert, instead of the hissy bootlegs that had gone before.

  • @kennyplay5982
    @kennyplay5982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Peter was the mastermind.

  • @palacerevolution2000
    @palacerevolution2000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Even though the core of the music writing seems to have been Banks/Rutherford, and then Collins added on - the heart of the band must have been the love/hate friendship of Tony and Peter. PeterG is the only one who could get TonyB to blow sparks. That in turn creates top art. It's no fun for the actors in the vortex, but the rest of the world benefits from the result. They all had high points after the split: Genesis did some decent albums after Peter and SteveH; Hackett played some nice guitar solo; Peter G released 4-5 albums of rhythm and synth that sound like one long song, but never again did they transcend like those mid 70's masterpieces.

  • @MikeyRB77
    @MikeyRB77 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. This is amazingly good.

  • @davidpancerev9658
    @davidpancerev9658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Believe or not..Jeff Lynne Phil Lynott and David Cassidy were auditioned to replace Peter..oh what could've been..Ha !

  • @geoffreylogsdon162
    @geoffreylogsdon162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nit-picking but funny that Rutherford and Gabriel both get the name of Anon wrong, adding the definite article (THE Anon). They took that from various poems and epigrams where the author is listed as Anon., which is a terrific band name. Richard McPhail *probably* thought of it 😜 . God bless that man.

  • @bremtremont2027
    @bremtremont2027 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Peter was an introvert" I don't get how you can be an introvert in the music business

    • @teresagomes6491
      @teresagomes6491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Most great performers were introverts: Freddie Mercury, Jim Morrison, Elvis, the list goes on and on. Peter was one of them.

  • @henrique7730
    @henrique7730 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Steve Hackett proved to be a great guitarist, differentiating himself and creating the band's own style.

  • @phlog_dog7336
    @phlog_dog7336 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cannot believe that in this 44 minute documentary, Selling England by the Pound is only mentioned for half a sentence.

  • @Pulse2AM
    @Pulse2AM 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw the LLD tour with a little help of some chemicals when it came to town. I'll always remember the slipperman song! LOL They were so good, at least that's how I remember it.

  • @MarieNoelleP
    @MarieNoelleP 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh wow!... Thanks for posting! :o)

  • @davidgarione2206
    @davidgarione2206 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is an old documental, at least from1999. I'm looking for the Genesis archives of 2008 but subtitled in Spanish if it' s possible. I cannot catch a damn word of Mr. Banks says in his cockey accent. Can anybody help me!

  • @LoLzZ85
    @LoLzZ85 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Noel Gallagher is a fan of their first album, funnily enough

    • @davidrebecca6361
      @davidrebecca6361 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Noel lol likes stuff wen it suits him a don't understand why he's Mr. A know everything about music

  • @rmartin7558
    @rmartin7558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I didn't know Chris Elliott used to be in Genesis. 2:05

  • @bigfoot7091
    @bigfoot7091 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    From Genesis to Revelation was just " mistitled "...@ great album with some of Genesis most artistic and " inaccessible " songs...to realize it was done in 1967 is indeed mind numbing...my favorite songs are Fireside & The Serpent, and The Silent Son....ed

  • @newforestpixie5297
    @newforestpixie5297 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the Bee Gees’ influence is alive & well as Tony’s’ hairdo during the filming of this proves 🙄❤️

  • @tonycowin
    @tonycowin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A bit awkward King talking about going to see the young boys at school.

  • @robertlong4363
    @robertlong4363 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    These guys were definitely pioneers in this progressive music rediscovering of a lot of this early works it's amazing I guess eight years is about average span of groups like the Beatles. I guess they just need to MoveOn Peter Grable such a visual performer with those costumes never seen anyone quite like this

  • @honoriowashingtonreinoso3580
    @honoriowashingtonreinoso3580 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me gustaría que sea con subtítulos,lo sigo desde 1974.son unos grandes músicos,me gusta el estilo.

  • @TheIsreal0312
    @TheIsreal0312 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Although the Peter Gabriel Era is my favorite, I completely understand Genesis need to move on, both spiritually and musically.

  • @armandomedinacalvo9577
    @armandomedinacalvo9577 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Por favor un alma caritativa que subtitule este documental

    • @deirdrebehan8405
      @deirdrebehan8405 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ellos tienen uno en español ahora, aquí está el enlace:
      th-cam.com/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @briano.5746
    @briano.5746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Peter Gabriel is one of my favorite humans!

  • @wocko53
    @wocko53 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I didn't realize Tony Blaire started out with Genesis?

  • @isaacbarlow8247
    @isaacbarlow8247 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    genesis is my second favorite group behind YES..

    • @BeeBumper
      @BeeBumper 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm not sure I could label them one after the other, I have my YES moods and Genesis moods. Both bands regard musicianship in the highest regard.

    • @Jez2008UK
      @Jez2008UK 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Isaac Barlow Behind Yes ? Oh Pahlease !

    • @isaacbarlow8247
      @isaacbarlow8247 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Angel Gd I agree lately I have been in a Genesis mode lately...lol.

    • @arturobenavides2492
      @arturobenavides2492 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isaac Barlow same here

    • @jsvkia1
      @jsvkia1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isaac Barlow Genesis is also my second fav, but behind Pink Floyd.