I agree with Mr. Camacho. They need to consider redesigning or relocating this runway. A plane is designed to land with one engine and therefore one reverser. If a plane ever loses an engine, I assume that they're most likely going to lose the reverser as well. The fact that a one-engine landing isn't recommended at this runway means it shouldn't be used at all. Engine failure in the air is uncommon but not impossible. The airport must be able to accept any airplane that needs to make an emergency landing regardless of whether they have both reversers or not. Also, literally, everyone outside of the airport is in danger every time a plane lands in the rain.
I've flown in and out of Congonhas many, many times. The view over the buildings upon takeoff is insane. Ironically enough I never felt unsafe. In any case, there are three airports in SP, so both Campinas and Guarulhos would be ready to accomodate larger aircraft.
They need to build an entirely new airport away from the congested city center! The 2 armchair psychologists in this incident are a joke. The reason for the crash in a nutshell: 1. It was raining intensely . 2. That landing strip is too short, AND Hellllo, it has no shoulders ! 3. The gross negligence of airport administrators to allow ANY landings before the grooving and all other steps ensuring a safer runway were completed. 4. Operating an aircraft with only 1 of the 2 reversers ( brakes) in working order. There was plenty of blame to go around and several reasons , above, for this sad and catastrophic ending .
Many changes were done. First, they decreased the size of the planes that can land there. Second, they did an artificial floor expansion that applies just for emergencies. Also, at that time Brazil was in what was known as "air chaos" with too many passengers, planes to land and so on than what the country had capacity to deal. Because of that, Congonhas runway was behind in it's manutence schedule. That doesn't happen anymore. Also, for bigger plans we already have the Guarulhos airport, also in São Paulo and there are talks about building another airport.
The father of an intern who worked for me died at this crash. I called him to understand why he didn't showed up the next day, and his mother answered the call. When she said what happened, it felt very creepy. R.I.P. to all victims.
@@Antonio-lt1sp So many plans for the future were destroyed in a matter of minutes, especially for parents or families who rely on their grown-up children for household incomes. Some parents whose sons and daughter were killed in the TAM flight tragedy were probaby retirees or only just retired from their jobs after 20-30 years of working, and already planning to see their kids have good paying jobs, got married, build families and having grandkids. These parents could never imagine that a cruel twist of fate would take away and destroy their life plans, putting them into financial and emotional hardships.
Congonhas Airport has to be one of the scariest airports. Once you overran the runway, you’re doomed. The airport is entirely surrounded by buildings, and your plane would just crash into any of them if it overran the runway.
@@Powerranger-le4up They added now an extension with a special pavement that sinks the plane and helps to stop it. Also, it's important to remember that the city wasn't as big as it is today when the airport was built. We have a major airport that is further away, but everyone loves the location for this airport. Close to the richest area of the city, tons of tech companies. The other airport can be a 2 hours ride on a busy afternoon depending on where you are. So, dangerous or not, this airport is there to stay.
"Adjacent gas station" next to one of the most dangerous airports in the world?? ADJACENT?? Did the Sao Paolo municipal authorities receive the Darwin Award for permitting that?
Here are some reasons why there shouldn't be any gas stations near a runway 1. A plan could litterally crash into it 2. Why would you need a gas station next to a runway? 3. Think about what would happen if a plane with onboard makes an emergency landing at the airport and comes very close to the gas station. It's a ticking time bomb just waiting to explode. Use your brains people.
Even more than 17 years later this crash remains as the deadliest in South American's aviation history and one of the deadliest involving an Airbus A320.
It should’ve been mandatory to have all reversers functional prior to the flight, or any flight for that matter. The fact that wasn’t standard regulation boggles my mind.
Well, frankly, reversers take very little away from the needed braking distance for an airplane. It's nice for the additional margin, but they are hardly needed. This was caused (almost certainly) by pilot error first and foremost, not the lack of reversers in and of itself.
I'm shocked how common it used to be thought that reversers not deploying or deploying in flight wasn't a "big thing" in the aviation world...until it was proven it was.
I live in São Paulo, very close to this airport. Every day I see airplanes landing and taking off over my head. In the place where the building used to be there's a memoriall for the victims, they have recently installed new lampposts - it looks beautiful. I feel this wave of sadness everytime I pass in front of it.
I do. kinda love the older seasons. They are more realistic with their actings, cockpits, and cabins. I like their newer seasons too, but I feel that the older seasons are little better.
It is easy to blame the pilot. But the lack of grooves is a management problem. Management wanted profit by landing planes on an unsafe surface so as not to close the airport.
and why their is no alarm... they taking about AI these days...why there is no alarm saying right engine is not in reverse or is in idle...place the right engine in idle place the right engine in idle...place the f888888cking right engine in idle
well yeah it is easy to blame the pilot in fact it's easy to blame _both_ pilots cause both pilots are to blame neither of them bothered to check if they did the most fobvious thing: activate the brakes on *both* engines seriously?
Poor captain. The airport and airline corporate fat cats give him a truly dangerous terminal and a malfunctioning airplane, and then blame HIM for becoming stressed in a crisis.
Wait a minute…corporate fat cats? Captain is the one who takes off or not with one working trust reverser. It is up to him to land or divert. If landing at a challenging airport is too stressfull for him, than get out and…go to sell shoes from 9 to 5!
@zdenekkindl2778 A, don't know why you trying to run defend for a bunch of corpos, and B, you obviously have no idea how the airline industry works or what you are talking about. Move along. No one cares what you think.
@@lilycalir6515 It's always multiple factors that contribute to crashes. In this case though, the captain isn't blameless, it was his call to continue despite dangerous conditions. As captain, it's part of his job to make difficult decisions under duress.
I’ve always wanted this show to do an episode on this crash! I looked it up a year ago and there was no episode on it. Glad to see this one being covered, I saw the wreckage pictures and they were awful.
I was living in Brazil when this tragedy occurred. I remember how devastating it was. People were in utter shock and disbelief. It didn't help that the crash photos were somehow leaked online, displaying horrifying depictions of the victims' remains. Some people are just sick.
I trained in Congonhas as flight crew for the late Varig. I've flown in and out of Congonhas too many times to count. It's as bad as the Santos Dumont airport in Rio, another airport to avoid or pray very much wile landing in heavy rain. It's a very short runaway. Is was raining heavil🎉🎉y, the runaway short and slippery, they overrode it, with only one reversor working, crashed the airport fences, went out onto the street beside the airport and crashed into the building of TAM express, the cargo shipping offices + warehouse, outside the airport, right beside the Tam Express there was a petrol station. A normal Shell petrol station where cars, motorbikes, trucks fill up. Smack in the middle of the city, a huge, busy metropolis, with buildings all around it. Being so in the urban center it only operates from 6h in the morning to 23h, or from 7h to 22h if the airplanes/choppers go over a certain noise level when landing or taking off. I remember that day as if it were yesterday, my son was flying (he did go) the next afternoon to stay with family. I was terrified. Everyone was. It was all people would talk about. The passengers burned alive. One of my mom's cousins was a congressman at the time, I don't remember what why, but he got to listen to the audio. There was a comittee about the accident. He was so traumatized, people were screaming while they burned alive, it was so brutal and so fast, nobody got to scape, open the doors, deploy the slides, nothing. The public only has access to the transcripts and explanatory commentary from the authorities. It's bad enough for me. Unfortunately no passengers or crew survived, there were also 12 non passengers fatalities. I wished the pilot had called an emergency because of the one reverser and the rainy conditions and gone to Guarulhos instead. I think complaining but live passengers would be better. Losing about 1h or 2h commuting would've been nothing compared outcome of this tragedy.
13:34 I can’t explain the hurt in my heart, but I felt knowing that probably nobody survives this but when they said they were able to save 10 to 20 office workers, my heart just lifted and I cheered yes like it’s so unfortunate that nobody honestly survive but at least they managed to see some people from the Office building even though they weren’t passengers on the plane it lifts my spirits to see some people saved from this catastrophe❤❤❤❤😢 thoughts and prayers go to the victims of the crash, their families and their loved ones😢❤❤❤❤
@@dunatyphon5416 100% stupidity to land on a slippery runway which is short and with one non-functional reverse. It would have been only luck if the had made it.😱
People asking why the pilots chose to land there, hello, it's an airport. Of course they would land there. Better question is, why were the plane not kept in tip top condition and whoever though to build an airport with a difficult to land run way with multiple accidents. Otherwise, you are just asking the wrong question.
Of course, the people who designed the runway couldn't see the future. It was a flawed design that only became worse as planes got bigger and the city grew around. The airport should not have been kept online as these things became obvious, but shamefully, it isn't the first or the last time that such problems were ignored for logistics or money...
@ratemisia Surely by the end of the 60s they should have had laws in place to prevent city development within a certain distance of a dangerous airport/dangerous runway/dangerously short runway.
@@Southamericangirl42 I agree that there should have been laws in place, but I couldn't find them or a year when they went into effect - of course, it would be easier if I spoke Brazilian Portuguese. São Paulo-Congonhas began to be built around as early as the 1950s, and now being the second largest airport in Brazil (by traffic volume) in the largest city in the whole Western Hemisphere (by population), I imagine it was already going to be a very difficult and costly problem to solve by 2007, when this accident took place. It would no doubt be even harder to move the airport today, and I don't think São Paulo residents would be very happy to have significant parts of their city demolished to make way for safer runways... After this crash, this runway and airport weren't shut down, but the maximum landing weight, largest aircraft allowed, and number of landings per day were all reduced, and better rainwater drainage was added on the runways. I think this was the right move, and it tells me that the Brazilian aviation authorities recognized the danger of this runway and made significant moves to reduce that danger.
I passed the road in front the airport a few seconds before the accident. I'll never forget it. 😢 Big explosion. Huge flash... Looked at my mirror and it was fire all over. Unbelievable 😢
I was on a flight due to land at this airport about a month before this crash. We were overweight, so we flew in a holding pattern for 2 hours to try and burn excess fuel before the pilots decided we were still too heavy for the runway and diverted to another airport. It was a bit annoying at the time, but we dealt with it. When we got back and saw this crash occured, we definitely didn't mind the diversion, it suddenly made sense!
Reversers are responsible for a minor part of the breaking process. That´s why they are not mandatory. But certainly in situations like that, it would be wise to always have it working. But let´s remember: the main contributor for this crash was the fact that the right engine was at full power, not the lack of reverse trust. Apart from increasing forward trust, it also prevented the spoilers from being activated, thus greatly reducing the tires breaking efficiency. Just as happened in previous incidents/accidents show in this episode.
Every single time when I’m on a plane that lands in Congonha’s airport, I can’t explain the relief you feel when the plane has stopped completely. In the Santos Dumont’s airport in Rio, the runway is also scary.
I am from Brazil, originally from São Paulo. Whenever I go there, I land at Congonhas. The runway does look small, but I do not feel afraid - not anymore, anyway. I was there like, 2 weeks ago! At the site of the accident, there's now a park.
I think the main issue was the spoilers not activating due to one engine not being set to idle,so there was no force pushing down onto the wheels and they were barely in contact with the runway.
15:00 On hearing another plane slid off the rain-wet runway the day before, the first question that hit me: were there any rain grooves on the surface?
@@thacerot4395 Same thing happened in Melbourne Australia. Essendon Airport was the international airport for years. Recognising urban sprawl and the advent of the Jumbo jet was an accident waiting to happen; a much larger Airport was constructed twenty-five miles away, where no housing is permitted within a kilometre of the Airport. One of the very few things we actually got right
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It would also be 7 years to the day BEFORE Malaysia Airlines flight 17 would be shot down over Eastern Ukraine. I personally don't know any other calendar days that have three aircraft accidents on the same day.
@@StefaniClowdis Wow, you should have been on that plane. I'm so glad we can at least have you here, given that you know more than trained pilots who did not have the benefit of hindsight.
You need to remember that in a lot of instances pilots are compelled not to divert unless in an emergency because diverting uses more fuel and the airlines have to bear that cost as well as the cost of transporting the people again to their original destination. Most airlines instruct pilots to land in times like these despite the risks.
@@thedemolitionmuniciplecommercial airlines are very expensive to operate, so the operator(s) of the airline usually try to squeeze out so much money as they can.
The media coverage blamed the runaway first as a way to set blame to the President for political reasons. Not joking, they've blamed the President of Brazil. Years later, everything is still there as a source.
The first 15 seconds sounds like a line straight from a horror movie, even the music complements it perfectly, but jokes aside this was a horrible crash.
There should be essentially no dangerous runways, simply because they are such a critical component. A defective runway endanger every aircraft, making it more dangerous than any other component failure.
Just shows us how serious this is very tragic airport should be away from the city and other building busy highways and also no plane should go without being 100% good in this case only one of the breaks was working I literally got anxiety watching the show 😢
I flew out of this airport in 1977 to the UK, had I known it was this dangerous I would have flown from a different airport! R.I.P. to all that lost their lives.
@@daniele-de-souzathis airport only operates domestic flights nowadays. If you’re coming from another country you will likely land in Guarulhos. Also, things have changed quite a bit since then and the airport is currently being fully refurbished
This is one of the few times where a single error and bad maintenance and weather all come together for one final tragedy 😢. I feel sorry both for all the passengers as well as the pilot, my guess is between not being able to see the controls well in the dark, and also bad weather conditions, he never had the time to figure out he had to move 1 thing 😢😢😢 poor people, but that airport has always been a testament of piloting abilities, in the middle of a city 🙈
Things have changed quite a bit and this airport operates only domestic flights, most of the flights were redirected to the other airport in Guarulhos-Sao Paulo. Now this airport is being fully refurbished but still very risky in the middle of this concrete jungle
My mom in this day had landed there in the afternoon, the runway was so wet, but the plane that my mom was, it was without passengers, she was a flight attendent in Gol Linhas Aereas.
@@nathanesm It looked like history repeating again. TAM 3054 (A320) hit a warehouse and Jeju Air 2216 (737) hit a concrete wall. The warehouse and concrete wall are both solid structures that those airplanes hit after overruning the runway.
Just from a regular person's point of view from the footage they showed it looks terrifying and makes me think what on Earth are they thinking! Choose a safe place for a brand new airport!
Fernando Camargo está de parabéns pelo excelente Inglês confesso fiquei chocada pois infelizmente os Brasileiros não falam tão bem assim mesmo sendo da aviação ou desse tipo
And you should be. Inept pilots everywhere. Corporate greed, sloppy ground crews and yes, even ICAO has it’s share of failures! Enzo Ferrari never took elevator…!
they might not have time to pick up enough speed to get into the air again, im not sure how it works but one of their engines were in reverse so maybe at that point they had to commit?
I once flew into a small South American airport. ( Passenger). 727 I think ? At the end of the runway was a couple junk planes that weren't cleaned up after overshooting the tarmac . The pilot had circled first with a real steep back as it was high in the Andes in a small meadow between mountains. We stopped at the end of the runway and got a good look at the junk planes. Scary cool .
It is insane how difficult it is to extinguish a kerosene based fire. Water just causes it to float and spread. But, when an open air inferno is raging, even with a 7-man team, it feels like you're just spitting on a stove. The heat that comes out of it is just as intense. It's hard enough being 20 feet away and one team shielding the main team with fan spray, through the small window, your face just cooks. The lucky ones die from impact.
It was mentioned in the video: one of the reversers wasn't working, and leaving the nonfunctional one at idle should have given a reduced stopping distance. 36:50 Unless you're questioning why the plane landed without both of the reversers functional?
It's not imperative at all. Reversers aren't as important as you might think, they only take away a relatively small amount of distance. Now, that comes with the catch that they are much more important when it's raining, as it was here. That doesn't mean it should be required specifically for this runway, but that the captain should have realized that having functional reversers would have been more important here and possibly diverted. This plane would've landed just fine, even in the rain, had it not been for pilot error.
@@mjaricacat It's really fine, even on this runway, as long as the weather permits. When there's good weather, the reversers generally aren't even taken into account for the landing distance calculations. I agree with the last part though; like I said, the decision to land here during this weather with a bad reverser was questionable at best, and that combined with the unfortunate pilot error is what caused this. Reversers really aren't imperative at this runway at all.
Short runway,not much time to react. I guess the better option would've been to takeoff again due to the high speeds once they realized there was no way of stopping.
The captain followed an old procedure but he got it wrong, because in the demonstration, the pilot pulls back both levers while leaving the right side in idle and the left in full reverse. As for the captain he only pulled back the left lever leaving the right one in full power which made it ineffective to slow the plane + rainy weather made it worse
who designed this airport??? steep embankment, busy roads yards away from the runway, gas station... I would imagine that runway would be good for some smaller planes, but airliners? That was just begging for a disaster.
I agree with Mr. Camacho. They need to consider redesigning or relocating this runway. A plane is designed to land with one engine and therefore one reverser. If a plane ever loses an engine, I assume that they're most likely going to lose the reverser as well. The fact that a one-engine landing isn't recommended at this runway means it shouldn't be used at all. Engine failure in the air is uncommon but not impossible. The airport must be able to accept any airplane that needs to make an emergency landing regardless of whether they have both reversers or not. Also, literally, everyone outside of the airport is in danger every time a plane lands in the rain.
I'd imagine a plane having an emergency in the Sao Paulo area would be told to try to land at the much bigger airport at Guarulhos instead.
I've flown in and out of Congonhas many, many times. The view over the buildings upon takeoff is insane. Ironically enough I never felt unsafe. In any case, there are three airports in SP, so both Campinas and Guarulhos would be ready to accomodate larger aircraft.
They need to build an entirely new airport away from the congested city center!
The 2 armchair psychologists in this incident are a joke.
The reason for the crash in a nutshell:
1. It was raining intensely .
2. That landing strip is too short, AND Hellllo, it has no shoulders !
3. The gross negligence of airport administrators to allow ANY landings before the grooving and all other steps ensuring a safer runway were completed.
4. Operating an aircraft with only 1 of the 2 reversers ( brakes) in working order.
There was plenty of blame to go around and several reasons , above, for this sad and catastrophic ending .
Falou besteira. A causa do acidente foi falha HUMANA !
Many changes were done. First, they decreased the size of the planes that can land there. Second, they did an artificial floor expansion that applies just for emergencies. Also, at that time Brazil was in what was known as "air chaos" with too many passengers, planes to land and so on than what the country had capacity to deal. Because of that, Congonhas runway was behind in it's manutence schedule. That doesn't happen anymore. Also, for bigger plans we already have the Guarulhos airport, also in São Paulo and there are talks about building another airport.
The father of an intern who worked for me died at this crash. I called him to understand why he didn't showed up the next day, and his mother answered the call. When she said what happened, it felt very creepy. R.I.P. to all victims.
Júlio Redecker, Paulo Rogério Amoretty Souza, and Márcio Rogério de Andrade also died in the crash.
Life is particularly precious. RIP
@@Antonio-lt1sp So many plans for the future were destroyed in a matter of minutes, especially for parents or families who rely on their grown-up children for household incomes. Some parents whose sons and daughter were killed in the TAM flight tragedy were probaby retirees or only just retired from their jobs after 20-30 years of working, and already planning to see their kids have good paying jobs, got married, build families and having grandkids. These parents could never imagine that a cruel twist of fate would take away and destroy their life plans, putting them into financial and emotional hardships.
You poor poor man you must feel awful.
@@Powerranger-le4up Souza??? My 2nd name is de souza
Congonhas Airport has to be one of the scariest airports. Once you overran the runway, you’re doomed. The airport is entirely surrounded by buildings, and your plane would just crash into any of them if it overran the runway.
yes that's what it says in the video
Amazingly, TAM 3054 is the most recent accident there so I think people have made it much safer.
it's an aircraft carrier
Right? This airport is the poster child for "How and where to NOT build an airport".
@@Powerranger-le4up They added now an extension with a special pavement that sinks the plane and helps to stop it.
Also, it's important to remember that the city wasn't as big as it is today when the airport was built. We have a major airport that is further away, but everyone loves the location for this airport. Close to the richest area of the city, tons of tech companies. The other airport can be a 2 hours ride on a busy afternoon depending on where you are. So, dangerous or not, this airport is there to stay.
"Adjacent gas station" next to one of the most dangerous airports in the world?? ADJACENT?? Did the Sao Paolo municipal authorities receive the Darwin Award for permitting that?
Well it's not supposed to be hit by a plane.
It’s in South America, where cure is always placed in front of prevention, just like Africa.
Nuff said.
@@MrYorickJenkins Nahhhh, it's basically urban planning at its most creative
@@travelwithtony5767 There's also a petrol station across the road from the threshold of a runway in Heathrow. BA Flight 38 narrowly missed it.
Here are some reasons why there shouldn't be any gas stations near a runway
1. A plan could litterally crash into it
2. Why would you need a gas station next to a runway?
3. Think about what would happen if a plane with onboard makes an emergency landing at the airport and comes very close to the gas station.
It's a ticking time bomb just waiting to explode.
Use your brains people.
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@@R0meett3 right
Its tight!
Even more than 17 years later this crash remains as the deadliest in South American's aviation history and one of the deadliest involving an Airbus A320.
That's good though. It means there hasn't been crashes that were as bad. That's progress maybe? The worst should be in the past
@@LysetteDoe that is terrible for a major airport
It should’ve been mandatory to have all reversers functional prior to the flight, or any flight for that matter. The fact that wasn’t standard regulation boggles my mind.
@@ThyRodman
Right! What if the other one fails? No redundancy.
Ikr, I was shocked to learn this was quite common 😳😯
Well, frankly, reversers take very little away from the needed braking distance for an airplane. It's nice for the additional margin, but they are hardly needed. This was caused (almost certainly) by pilot error first and foremost, not the lack of reversers in and of itself.
I'm shocked how common it used to be thought that reversers not deploying or deploying in flight wasn't a "big thing" in the aviation world...until it was proven it was.
Reverses don’t aid in stopping, they remove the pressure from the brakes
I live in São Paulo, very close to this airport. Every day I see airplanes landing and taking off over my head. In the place where the building used to be there's a memoriall for the victims, they have recently installed new lampposts - it looks beautiful. I feel this wave of sadness everytime I pass in front of it.
Who loves this mayday series?
I do. kinda love the older seasons. They are more realistic with their actings, cockpits, and cabins. I like their newer seasons too, but I feel that the older seasons are little better.
Myself I love watching Mayday most addictive video
Me, I love learning about how and why these happened but it is still sad at the same time
@sunnyfon9065 agree however the most recent season thst start to go back to their older root
I find the stories interesting
It is easy to blame the pilot. But the lack of grooves is a management problem. Management wanted profit by landing planes on an unsafe surface so as not to close the airport.
Blame the pilot avoids financial liability
It was a pilot error. Period. There's never one single reason, and in this case, a pilot error aligned all the Swiss cheese holes.
and why their is no alarm... they taking about AI these days...why there is no alarm saying right engine is not in reverse or is in idle...place the right engine in idle place the right engine in idle...place the f888888cking right engine in idle
well yeah it is easy to blame the pilot
in fact it's easy to blame _both_ pilots
cause both pilots are to blame
neither of them bothered to check if they did the most fobvious thing: activate the brakes on *both* engines
seriously?
Its not easy its pilot fault thet must follow the procedure they know it and he choose another one and he failed to do it properly
Poor captain. The airport and airline corporate fat cats give him a truly dangerous terminal and a malfunctioning airplane, and then blame HIM for becoming stressed in a crisis.
Wait a minute…corporate fat cats? Captain is the one who takes off or not with one working trust reverser. It is up to him to land or divert. If landing at a challenging airport is too stressfull for him, than get out and…go to sell shoes from 9 to 5!
@zdenekkindl2778 A, don't know why you trying to run defend for a bunch of corpos, and B, you obviously have no idea how the airline industry works or what you are talking about. Move along. No one cares what you think.
@@zdenekkindl2778it was a perfect storm of events not just pilot error that caused this accident
@@lilycalir6515 It's always multiple factors that contribute to crashes. In this case though, the captain isn't blameless, it was his call to continue despite dangerous conditions. As captain, it's part of his job to make difficult decisions under duress.
@@zdenekkindl2778 There was an accident the day before on that very runway. Treacherous runway, yet still in operation.
I’ve always wanted this show to do an episode on this crash! I looked it up a year ago and there was no episode on it. Glad to see this one being covered, I saw the wreckage pictures and they were awful.
Umm... They made this episode in 2011...
Yeah they just repackaged an old episode. There are older labeled ones on YT. Same episode.
I thought I'd seen every Mayday ep and it's a huge pleasure to see a new one. Thank you!
I was living in Brazil when this tragedy occurred. I remember how devastating it was. People were in utter shock and disbelief. It didn't help that the crash photos were somehow leaked online, displaying horrifying depictions of the victims' remains. Some people are just sick.
Where were they leaked to? Asking for a friend 👀
@legitbeans9078
You're legit expecting an answer? You and "your friend" are legit despicable.
Me too
One of the very few - possibly the only - episode that's left me feeling shaken and uneasy.
I trained in Congonhas as flight crew for the late Varig. I've flown in and out of Congonhas too many times to count. It's as bad as the Santos Dumont airport in Rio, another airport to avoid or pray very much wile landing in heavy rain. It's a very short runaway.
Is was raining heavil🎉🎉y, the runaway short and slippery, they overrode it, with only one reversor working, crashed the airport fences, went out onto the street beside the airport and crashed into the building of TAM express, the cargo shipping offices + warehouse, outside the airport, right beside the Tam Express there was a petrol station. A normal Shell petrol station where cars, motorbikes, trucks fill up. Smack in the middle of the city, a huge, busy metropolis, with buildings all around it. Being so in the urban center it only operates from 6h in the morning to 23h, or from 7h to 22h if the airplanes/choppers go over a certain noise level when landing or taking off.
I remember that day as if it were yesterday, my son was flying (he did go) the next afternoon to stay with family. I was terrified. Everyone was. It was all people would talk about.
The passengers burned alive. One of my mom's cousins was a congressman at the time, I don't remember what why, but he got to listen to the audio. There was a comittee about the accident. He was so traumatized, people were screaming while they burned alive, it was so brutal and so fast, nobody got to scape, open the doors, deploy the slides, nothing.
The public only has access to the transcripts and explanatory commentary from the authorities. It's bad enough for me. Unfortunately no passengers or crew survived, there were also 12 non passengers fatalities.
I wished the pilot had called an emergency because of the one reverser and the rainy conditions and gone to Guarulhos instead. I think complaining but live passengers would be better. Losing about 1h or 2h commuting would've been nothing compared outcome of this tragedy.
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Thanks to whoever is uploading these! Another one I haven't seen. Such a nasty series of circumstances that led to this.
I think it's the official TH-cam channel
35L 😱 i still wake up every night 🌙 screaming in terror the nightmares of landing 747 on 35L 😭 it led to mine early retirement.
13:34 I can’t explain the hurt in my heart, but I felt knowing that probably nobody survives this but when they said they were able to save 10 to 20 office workers, my heart just lifted and I cheered yes like it’s so unfortunate that nobody honestly survive but at least they managed to see some people from the Office building even though they weren’t passengers on the plane it lifts my spirits to see some people saved from this catastrophe❤❤❤❤😢 thoughts and prayers go to the victims of the crash, their families and their loved ones😢❤❤❤❤
This video popping up as soon as I couldn’t find a mayday episode 😍
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Sucks so many people die because of others mistakes
Sadly, it’s how tombstone technology works.
No mistake.....Just stupidity....
@@dunatyphon5416 100% stupidity to land on a slippery runway which is short and with one non-functional reverse. It would have been only luck if the had made it.😱
@@MotherUv4 Ok, but wasn't a "pure" mistake.
They should have never got on the plane
People asking why the pilots chose to land there, hello, it's an airport. Of course they would land there. Better question is, why were the plane not kept in tip top condition and whoever though to build an airport with a difficult to land run way with multiple accidents.
Otherwise, you are just asking the wrong question.
There's a thing Called "minimum equipment list" in aviation. You can read upon that if you want your question answered
Of course, the people who designed the runway couldn't see the future. It was a flawed design that only became worse as planes got bigger and the city grew around. The airport should not have been kept online as these things became obvious, but shamefully, it isn't the first or the last time that such problems were ignored for logistics or money...
@topethermohenes7658
*called
*read up on that
@ratemisia
Surely by the end of the 60s they should have had laws in place to prevent city development within a certain distance of a dangerous airport/dangerous runway/dangerously short runway.
@@Southamericangirl42 I agree that there should have been laws in place, but I couldn't find them or a year when they went into effect - of course, it would be easier if I spoke Brazilian Portuguese. São Paulo-Congonhas began to be built around as early as the 1950s, and now being the second largest airport in Brazil (by traffic volume) in the largest city in the whole Western Hemisphere (by population), I imagine it was already going to be a very difficult and costly problem to solve by 2007, when this accident took place. It would no doubt be even harder to move the airport today, and I don't think São Paulo residents would be very happy to have significant parts of their city demolished to make way for safer runways...
After this crash, this runway and airport weren't shut down, but the maximum landing weight, largest aircraft allowed, and number of landings per day were all reduced, and better rainwater drainage was added on the runways. I think this was the right move, and it tells me that the Brazilian aviation authorities recognized the danger of this runway and made significant moves to reduce that danger.
I passed the road in front the airport a few seconds before the accident. I'll never forget it. 😢 Big explosion. Huge flash... Looked at my mirror and it was fire all over. Unbelievable 😢
I was on a flight due to land at this airport about a month before this crash. We were overweight, so we flew in a holding pattern for 2 hours to try and burn excess fuel before the pilots decided we were still too heavy for the runway and diverted to another airport. It was a bit annoying at the time, but we dealt with it. When we got back and saw this crash occured, we definitely didn't mind the diversion, it suddenly made sense!
No investigative movie series beats the mayday air crash investigations
Finally an episode I haven’t seen 🛌
I feel awkward being entertained by these series. This is the one I like the most of them.
Reversers are responsible for a minor part of the breaking process. That´s why they are not mandatory. But certainly in situations like that, it would be wise to always have it working. But let´s remember: the main contributor for this crash was the fact that the right engine was at full power, not the lack of reverse trust. Apart from increasing forward trust, it also prevented the spoilers from being activated, thus greatly reducing the tires breaking efficiency. Just as happened in previous incidents/accidents show in this episode.
Obrigado Dr Cleberson. Essa informação sobre spoilers não foi mencionada no vídeo.
Every single time when I’m on a plane that lands in Congonha’s airport, I can’t explain the relief you feel when the plane has stopped completely. In the Santos Dumont’s airport in Rio, the runway is also scary.
10:23 Imagine being the CEO and learning that your defective plane cost you a plane full of passengers AND a corporate building.
Try imagining that CEOs truly care about that. Let me know how it went...
And the company still rocks, merged with the Chilean LAN, forming LATAM.
How tragic! I always hate the events where the flight is completely fine but then everyone dies on landing🤦♀Simply tragic🤦♀
should never gone on a bad runway in bad weather with reverser not working
I am from Brazil, originally from São Paulo. Whenever I go there, I land at Congonhas. The runway does look small, but I do not feel afraid - not anymore, anyway. I was there like, 2 weeks ago! At the site of the accident, there's now a park.
I wish you luck 🙏
One non-functional reverse, poor breaking conditions on a very short runway….Why did they even try? 😱
Seriously!! Absolute dumbassery!
That ac should have not been permitted to fly.
I think the main issue was the spoilers not activating due to one engine not being set to idle,so there was no force pushing down onto the wheels and they were barely in contact with the runway.
@@atanaslillestemintchev the pilots were reckless to have attempted flying with such condition.
@@atanaslillestemintchev plus he was going way to fast on final approach.
15:00 On hearing another plane slid off the rain-wet runway the day before, the first question that hit me: were there any rain grooves on the surface?
The decision to plce a airport in this location truly is insanity!!!
The airport was there before the city
@@thacerot4395 So no excuse for it to be so short unless designed for tiny planes only.
They didn't imagine planes would be this big so the runaway is really short
@@thacerot4395 Same thing happened in Melbourne Australia. Essendon Airport was the international airport for years. Recognising urban sprawl and the advent of the Jumbo jet was an accident waiting to happen; a much larger Airport was constructed twenty-five miles away, where no housing is permitted within a kilometre of the Airport. One of the very few things we actually got right
Congonhas airport (CGH) was built in 1930. GRU airport, a much larger with proper runways was then opened in 1985.
I cannot fathom what the passengers were thinking knowing instant death was imminent
I am sure some of them suddenly🤣 new Jesus. God rest their soul.
__ I hope it's quick
__ I forgot to turn off the oven
__ This is exactly like that one movie
__ I remember the day we went to the beach when I was 4
__ I am going to throw up
__ finally I'll see grandma/Jesus/God
__ Ma, I love ya!
Id be hoping i was about to wake up in bed after the nightmare
The scary thing about this crash, it happen 11 years after on the same day as the TWA 800 crash 😱😔
It would also be 7 years to the day BEFORE Malaysia Airlines flight 17 would be shot down over Eastern Ukraine. I personally don't know any other calendar days that have three aircraft accidents on the same day.
@@matthewmellinger4867 that's just scary 😨
@@matthewmellinger4867 I found 2 more Sempati Air Flight 304 in 1997 with 22 survivors and Alliance Air Flight 7412 in 2000 with only 3 survivors
can u tell the date fully
17July2007....x777 😰
If the reverser doesn’t work, don’t land there. Waaaaaay too risky
@@StefaniClowdis Wow, you should have been on that plane. I'm so glad we can at least have you here, given that you know more than trained pilots who did not have the benefit of hindsight.
You need to remember that in a lot of instances pilots are compelled not to divert unless in an emergency because diverting uses more fuel and the airlines have to bear that cost as well as the cost of transporting the people again to their original destination. Most airlines instruct pilots to land in times like these despite the risks.
@@thedemolitionmuniciplecommercial airlines are very expensive to operate, so the operator(s) of the airline usually try to squeeze out so much money as they can.
Just for the record, yes we can still tell this is AI thumbnails, it doesn't go unnoticed.
this is one of the worst aviation accidents in brazil’s history.
The worst in Brazilian history and one of the worst in all of aviation history.
It is in fact, the worst.
Pretty sure its still the worst in all of S A
I love this channel. I've been listening to this like a podcast while working in the design production phase. 😂
Finally one I haven't seen yet 😁
I was nine years old when this accident happened. I remember those images like it was yesterday.
Mayday writers be like let’s make the runway the main villain of this episode
The runway came out of nowhere and smashed into the plane. The pilots didn't stand a chance, there's just no training for that sort of thing.
Yeah, instead of " Po Dunk Air" that takes off with 1 and a half wing; and think good thoughts to get there safely.
Like the runway was one huge banana peel
The media coverage blamed the runaway first as a way to set blame to the President for political reasons. Not joking, they've blamed the President of Brazil.
Years later, everything is still there as a source.
Mayday is something I watch when I have nothing to do or while I’m going to bed
Mayday or Dateline for me.
Do not watch it day before you fly somewhere…
The first 15 seconds sounds like a line straight from a horror movie, even the music complements it perfectly, but jokes aside this was a horrible crash.
Season 11 will feature three instances of heroic piloting.
Pilot left one engine at full power when landing. and the other pilot didn't intervene. This makes no sense.
They need more lights on levers in the cockpit.
Smells like a cover up
@@aaronb4407 Of what? You might want to get your nose looked at.
@@ranimouf 42:50 The video explains why
@@marchedbus9882 okay I just listen to it word for word and I did not hear anything about a conspiracy or a cover-up?
The names of the Pilot in Command and the First Officer are inverted. Lima was the Pilot in Command, while Stefanini was the First Officer.
Both were captains
@@Powerranger-le4up yea 1 4 stripe
other 3 who was senior by rank
left hand seat
unless he gives full authority to the junior
There should be essentially no dangerous runways, simply because they are such a critical component. A defective runway endanger every aircraft, making it more dangerous than any other component failure.
Just shows us how serious this is very tragic airport should be away from the city and other building busy highways and also no plane should go without being 100% good in this case only one of the breaks was working I literally got anxiety watching the show 😢
May all of the victims rest in heaven. I'm so sorry for this tragedy. I hope it never happens again. 😢
I’m digging the aircraft accident documentary/investigation hybrid format.
I flew out of this airport in 1977 to the UK, had I known it was this dangerous I would have flown from a different airport! R.I.P. to all that lost their lives.
@@oilburner225 I go to this airport frequently, I also didnt know it was so dangerous.
@@daniele-de-souzathis airport only operates domestic flights nowadays. If you’re coming from another country you will likely land in Guarulhos. Also, things have changed quite a bit since then and the airport is currently being fully refurbished
@@rucky_665 I am brazilian so I land there often in domestic flights hehehe. But is good to know that the airport is getting better nowadays.
This is one of the few times where a single error and bad maintenance and weather all come together for one final tragedy 😢. I feel sorry both for all the passengers as well as the pilot, my guess is between not being able to see the controls well in the dark, and also bad weather conditions, he never had the time to figure out he had to move 1 thing 😢😢😢 poor people, but that airport has always been a testament of piloting abilities, in the middle of a city 🙈
Simply refuse to land there
Things have changed quite a bit and this airport operates only domestic flights, most of the flights were redirected to the other airport in Guarulhos-Sao Paulo. Now this airport is being fully refurbished but still very risky in the middle of this concrete jungle
Excellent information and narration. Condolences to the families of the deceased and the loved ones...
Heartbreaking. My deepest condolences to their loved ones 🌸RIP
I like a good puzzle. I love following how they figure it out.😊
To think that most people survived the crash and burned alive inside the plane is terrifying.
watching Mayday video at the waiting room shortly before boarding 💀
I download them onto my phone and watch them mid flight to freak out the people sitting next to me 😂
Extremely good. Excellent channel. Live long and prosper.😇🖖
A-MA-ZING series!
I accidentally watched one episode now I’m binge watching this is crazy
Omg, this happened 17 years ago? Time flies 😮
My mom in this day had landed there in the afternoon, the runway was so wet, but the plane that my mom was, it was without passengers, she was a flight attendent in Gol Linhas Aereas.
My father was the standby pilot for this flight, by some miracle he did not fly this Day.
I don't think anybody would say "thirty-five L" but "three five left" in aviation
Here after the Jeju Air accident.
Eu pensei nesse acidente após a Coreia
@@nathanesm It looked like history repeating again. TAM 3054 (A320) hit a warehouse and Jeju Air 2216 (737) hit a concrete wall. The warehouse and concrete wall are both solid structures that those airplanes hit after overruning the runway.
I have landed 🛬 there. It’s scary and SHORT.
Just from a regular person's point of view from the footage they showed it looks terrifying and makes me think what on Earth are they thinking! Choose a safe place for a brand new airport!
35L...35L..35L..
Fernando Camargo está de parabéns pelo excelente Inglês confesso fiquei chocada pois infelizmente os Brasileiros não falam tão bem assim mesmo sendo da aviação ou desse tipo
After watching Mayday I m scare of traveling in plane
The show actually helped me and made me more alert when in a plane.
Statistically, it's still safer than going anywhere in your car.
Same @@Powerranger-le4up
And you should be. Inept pilots everywhere. Corporate greed, sloppy ground crews and yes, even ICAO has it’s share of failures!
Enzo Ferrari never took elevator…!
Just when you think you know it all and that nothing can go wrong. Rest in peace.
Good post
This video gives me anxiety whenever I fly on a plane
@@dylancamps4922 how was your flight?
Planes often fly over the area where I live, heading towards Toronto Pierson International Airport. It makes me nervous.
I still dont understand why they didnt touch and go and try again when the plane didnt stop 🤔
they might not have time to pick up enough speed to get into the air again, im not sure how it works but one of their engines were in reverse so maybe at that point they had to commit?
Here watching from klcity 👍😍✌💥💥✈️🇱🇷‼️
I once flew into a small South American airport. ( Passenger). 727 I think ? At the end of the runway was a couple junk planes that weren't cleaned up after overshooting the tarmac . The pilot had circled first with a real steep back as it was high in the Andes in a small meadow between mountains. We stopped at the end of the runway and got a good look at the junk planes. Scary cool .
10:14 moment of impact
It is insane how difficult it is to extinguish a kerosene based fire. Water just causes it to float and spread. But, when an open air inferno is raging, even with a 7-man team, it feels like you're just spitting on a stove. The heat that comes out of it is just as intense. It's hard enough being 20 feet away and one team shielding the main team with fan spray, through the small window, your face just cooks. The lucky ones die from impact.
I love watching them very interesting
30:11
I did the math. 400 billion hours is 45,662,100.5 years. That’s how many years it would take roughly for the AFU to fail. That’s crazy.
Seriously, on a risky runway like this its imperative to have both engines in reverse.
I dont get it.
It was mentioned in the video: one of the reversers wasn't working, and leaving the nonfunctional one at idle should have given a reduced stopping distance. 36:50
Unless you're questioning why the plane landed without both of the reversers functional?
It's not imperative at all. Reversers aren't as important as you might think, they only take away a relatively small amount of distance. Now, that comes with the catch that they are much more important when it's raining, as it was here. That doesn't mean it should be required specifically for this runway, but that the captain should have realized that having functional reversers would have been more important here and possibly diverted.
This plane would've landed just fine, even in the rain, had it not been for pilot error.
@@RobertoWhyyoucare On a short risky runway as this it is, especially when it rains.
@@mjaricacat It's really fine, even on this runway, as long as the weather permits. When there's good weather, the reversers generally aren't even taken into account for the landing distance calculations.
I agree with the last part though; like I said, the decision to land here during this weather with a bad reverser was questionable at best, and that combined with the unfortunate pilot error is what caused this. Reversers really aren't imperative at this runway at all.
why didn't the first officer notice? if your too fast, look at the throttle
Man Thats Damn Sad!! 🙁🤯😱😥
Have they considered just not flying planes that are down one reverser? Jeez
Wow,that airport needs to be located outside of the city ,so sad ,so near but so far 😢
18:10 why they have to examine the runway at night time?
@@TheWorld4all gather evidence ASAP
@@TheWorld4all less traffic
I can’t imagine landing thinking it’s over, just to realize you’re about to crash
I’m from São Paulo, I used to fly from this airport. I never liked that airport.
I have a question. Could the pilots not hear the powering up of the engine?
1, 2, 3 🔥
Short runway,not much time to react. I guess the better option would've been to takeoff again due to the high speeds once they realized there was no way of stopping.
I wouldn't land at this airport it's scary 😢😢😢
The captain followed an old procedure but he got it wrong, because in the demonstration, the pilot pulls back both levers while leaving the right side in idle and the left in full reverse. As for the captain he only pulled back the left lever leaving the right one in full power which made it ineffective to slow the plane + rainy weather made it worse
Why don't we have live cameras inside today's cockpits?
Whilst the pilot can be blamed, constructing an airport in a safer area would have solved all of this
IT IS UNBELIEVABLE that a sh1 77y airport like this is still in operation.
who designed this airport??? steep embankment, busy roads yards away from the runway, gas station... I would imagine that runway would be good for some smaller planes, but airliners? That was just begging for a disaster.
Flew out of Congonhas in 1990. Regular hourly Rio flights then, in daytime and more.