Yes! Way to go 👏👏👏 Just a bit of constructive criticism. Better lighting and audio. Either way, ill still watch. Would love for yall to test TMC powerheads. Quanta Atlas and Quanta Helix lightning. Great job! 👏👏👏
Videos dope. Have Remy use his radio voice and give you some pointers on presentation. I think wavemakers is an old topic there’s a million out there nowadays. If you wanted to be on the razors edge, compare the new hydros stuff to whatever it needed compared to, like the dosing pumps or something. Or compare the new bolus method and see if it’s as up to snuff as they say it is or an in depth unbiased salt review, that’s never happened in the hobby.
Excited to see more long-term, unbiased product reviews! Thanks for kicking off this series. One suggestion: consider using a slightly more casual tone and improving the audio quality. At times, the voiceover was a bit too loud and distorted.
Yes definitely the unbiased product reviews are needed. To many reviews on the latest and greatest new whatever product and it’s a must have just because they have ties to the brand or just pushing it out to make money. Thank you reefbuilders definitely looking forward to more reviews!!!!
This is a welcomed pivot from the “every review is an advertisement” environment we are in. Would have loved to see a comparable Tunze in this showdown, and show the pumps flow pattern on a 20-30g tank as that is more realistic use case.
Good work on a first foray into a broad product comparison/evaluation video. We all grow by doing. A lot of folks here sure think they can do a better job presenting...
Let's break the myth that is keeping away potential hobbyist, yes it is expensive but is becoming affordable thanks to the arrival of nice quality replicas in lighting and epuipment in general. Keep them coming. Can you do a review on radion- like lights please.
I think it’s a great video. I think it’s good you see the graphs. I’d look at how brs used to do their graphs. They explained what they were testing and showed you a giant graph of the product and the test on different axis. Then as each test came in you would see the actual number go into that section of the graph and it will give a better visual representation of how pumps etc compare in real time. I think brs did that well and encourage you to something different. Overall good video Salem
Also maybe use an air stone under the pumps to help visualize the flow in the tank. The color dye looks cool but only works for a second. The air bubbles will get carried through the tank and you will be able to visualize the currents better over a longer time period
Pumps that would be interesting to test: Jecod MOW-22 Tunze 6105 eco Ecotech MP40 Maxspect Gyre Aquamedic smart drift 3.1 A sneak peak of how an old pump would behave could be a defined amount of vaseline per surface area of the rotative Magnet/parts. Noise measurements are in dB which is logarithmic. 😉
Great review format! I will have to agree with others with audio quality, video quality can improved. I would really like to see comparison graphs presented when discussing numbers…there were LOTS of number. Having a chart/graph showing a comparison with addition of each pump data would be great so we can see the comparison, most of us will be watching in our living room and not taking notes.
I have 2x Hygger 042. It’s like the cheapest DC flow pump ever, but they’re silent and generate a lot of flow (claim is “2114 GPH”). On max output they are still quieter than my Sicce Syncra Pro return pump AC.
Only suggestions for improvements: - Improve the audio and video quality. - Take it a little slower with presentation of results. Otherwise, love the premise and format, eager to see more pumps and other products tested.
Good video guys! Maybe AB+ next time? Seems to work great on other videos and is relatively cheap. Also, maybe dumb it down for the less intelligent like myself. I can’t be the only one.. right? …Anyone? 😩
Joking aside, I would assume most people aren’t going to know what to do with some of this data. You can tell us how many decibels the noise is, but to the average reefer, we don’t know what that means entirely. Just tell us if ReefBuilders thinks it’s quiet or not. Did it pass the quiet test? Or did it fail?
Appreciate the gamut of tests here. Pacing is a bit fast, style a bit intense. Audio could definitely use some improvement (noticable even on my cruddy phone speakers). Really good video editing has a learning curve, so no worries, it's understandable considering this is the first proper review under your belt. Thanks Salem!
Thank you reef builders for getting back to this.. been way too long since anyone has given unbiased reviews. My pockets are not unlimited so any information I can use to help me solve any issues or problems is greatly appreciated.
Salem, good initial video! You should check out Gamers Nexus and how they do a bunch of their reviews for PC Hardware. Similar format but different topic. Also, as a few others have said, relax! (and audio quality).
I found the video very repetitive in a lot of the data getting to the point would keep the attention of the viewers, and some feedback on the quality of the video and audio could be better there some settings on the DJI mic you may want to turn down the gain.
This was good, but I would say the pumps used are all different styles. I’d like to see the following compared in groups of pump styles: Sicce Xstreme Jecod SOW Tunze Stream Jecod MLW AI Nero Hygger Jecod dmp 40 Ecotech mp40 + the gyre style pumps This way we could directly compare price to performance for like products. This was still interesting though, and kind of showed that whilst the Hygger was much cheaper it had pretty useless flow compared to the other two.. but is that because of the style of pump or the individual manufacturer?
@@salemclemens6148lol you replied before I could even finish an edit 😅 Yes I think the actual flow rate is important but less so than comparing like with like. This video gave more information about the flow pattern different pump styles make more than anything.
Great job. No opinion, just facts. The graphics helped. I would suggest a slower pace and a little more relaxed tone, but it's just my taste. Congratulations and thanks.
I want to know power-to-flow efficiency vs. just energy efficiency. More important to understand what 10 watts gets me in A vs. B. I don’t trust the advertised flow rate values. Biggest spec I want independent testing on.
Great concept and something the hobby sorely misses. Some feedback Pacing is a bit off. Take your time. Audio wasn't great. If you use B-roll and just record a separate audio track and overlay it you can easily swap out the audio if you catch any errors (ie -Teslas vs Gauss). It will also stop the echoey sound quality. Qualitative nature of the flow cones. Yes but here you could still add some discussion. I don't do quantification of histology images in my papers but I do discuss them. At the end of the video it would've been nice to see the numbers as well as the red green labeling. If you guys ever start presenting data that needs statistical analysis or you want to move away from excel generated graphing options, I have access to graphpsd prism. Would be happy to volunteer/contribute/collaborate Nice to see this kinda content come back to reefing.
Make reefing fun! Not trying to hate. I love old BRS investigate videos, but I reef to relax. The energy is way off! would be better received if Remi did it!
Reef Builders I gotta give it to you straight: Good concept but poor delivery. This video had way too much useless information and on three separate products. If you’re gonna do a deep dive like that, then maybe try sticking to one pump at a time. Alternatively, you could try showing the best uses for each pump: where one excels and the others are lacking. Just food for thought.
Not sure I like the video format of this. Aside from the poor video and audio quality, there’s a lot of filler for just data. Be better off just publishing an article with all the details in a clean and clear format. I don’t want to search through a video hunting down all the data scattered throughout the video that’s shown for 2 seconds at a time. Maybe publish a video showing how tests are done and leave the results in article format
The hygger flow pattern was terrible. Its because of rhe shape and how they put the slits on the reduced surface inrake of the pump. I was thinking about getting the pump. ...Not anymore. The jecod and sicce was much mich better
No joke, I think you should rate the music in each video in the comments. I always kinda wonder if I'm picking the right stuff. Most of the time I feel like it's on brand. Lets use a scale from 1-10. Promise I'm not being a smart ass, lol! ~Remy
So it was a very odd video. good intentions for sure but this is far from what rb used to be from all angles..video style and quality, sounds and music. Even the application of instruction for the viewer. ripped eyes??? Being serious is great but this is a different video for sure. Got me kinda sad to think about what Jake Adams would think. 🤔
It’s called watching the video before posting it to see what it looks like. Review and editing can go a long way. I am open to letting new things run there course but this is an odd videos and performance.
You don’t need me to tell you that this is the start of something the hobby needs, but this is the start of something the hobby needs. Well done!!!
Yes! Way to go 👏👏👏
Just a bit of constructive criticism. Better lighting and audio. Either way, ill still watch. Would love for yall to test TMC powerheads. Quanta Atlas and Quanta Helix lightning. Great job! 👏👏👏
Yes Salem ! Learning so much from you from the podcasts. You’re making me a better reefer.
This is exactly the kind of content i want. Thank you.
Videos dope. Have Remy use his radio voice and give you some pointers on presentation. I think wavemakers is an old topic there’s a million out there nowadays. If you wanted to be on the razors edge, compare the new hydros stuff to whatever it needed compared to, like the dosing pumps or something. Or compare the new bolus method and see if it’s as up to snuff as they say it is or an in depth unbiased salt review, that’s never happened in the hobby.
Excited to see more long-term, unbiased product reviews! Thanks for kicking off this series.
One suggestion: consider using a slightly more casual tone and improving the audio quality. At times, the voiceover was a bit too loud and distorted.
Thank you - had some issues with the mic this time around we are upgrading
I just want to know the other pumps that aren’t in the video and why.
Yes definitely the unbiased product reviews are needed. To many reviews on the latest and greatest new whatever product and it’s a must have just because they have ties to the brand or just pushing it out to make money. Thank you reefbuilders definitely looking forward to more reviews!!!!
Love it! Might inspire me to make some videos like this myself.
Keep up the good work! The future is looking bright!
Great idea to have a new series for unbiased reviews. Thank you and I look forward to more of your reviews.
This is a welcomed pivot from the “every review is an advertisement” environment we are in. Would have loved to see a comparable Tunze in this showdown, and show the pumps flow pattern on a 20-30g tank as that is more realistic use case.
Good work on a first foray into a broad product comparison/evaluation video. We all grow by doing. A lot of folks here sure think they can do a better job presenting...
Good job ! The raising of the water temp by the pump was interesting 😊
It’s not something I thought about before but I’m sure all the pumps are heating up my tank. 😂
We didn't need heaters as big in the old days with AC pumps
This is going to be a space for honesty, as I read a script written by someone else at high speed
I spoke off the cuff except for reading the data - this is typically how I speak if you watch my reef recaps - thanks for watching
Let's break the myth that is keeping away potential hobbyist, yes it is expensive but is becoming affordable thanks to the arrival of nice quality replicas in lighting and epuipment in general. Keep them coming. Can you do a review on radion- like lights please.
I think it’s a great video. I think it’s good you see the graphs. I’d look at how brs used to do their graphs. They explained what they were testing and showed you a giant graph of the product and the test on different axis. Then as each test came in you would see the actual number go into that section of the graph and it will give a better visual representation of how pumps etc compare in real time. I think brs did that well and encourage you to something different. Overall good video Salem
Do a review on reefbreeders meridian, reefilab 2.1 uno pro, and Orphek!
These unbiased videos are what we need! What about some high vis beads for the flow pattern?
Also maybe use an air stone under the pumps to help visualize the flow in the tank. The color dye looks cool but only works for a second. The air bubbles will get carried through the tank and you will be able to visualize the currents better over a longer time period
Maybe take out and in the water sound measurement?
If i were some companies id be feeling uneasy right now 😂
Pumps that would be interesting to test:
Jecod MOW-22
Tunze 6105 eco
Ecotech MP40
Maxspect Gyre
Aquamedic smart drift 3.1
A sneak peak of how an old pump would behave could be a defined amount of vaseline per surface area of the rotative Magnet/parts.
Noise measurements are in dB which is logarithmic. 😉
Please compare a range of gyre-style pumps (name brand and knock-offs)
Great review format! I will have to agree with others with audio quality, video quality can improved. I would really like to see comparison graphs presented when discussing numbers…there were LOTS of number. Having a chart/graph showing a comparison with addition of each pump data would be great so we can see the comparison, most of us will be watching in our living room and not taking notes.
This is brilliant
The modern BRS! This is exactly the kind of videos the hobby needs! Keep it up Reef Builders Team!
I really hope you compare Radion XR30, Illumagic X4, and Nicrew Hyperreef 2.
I have 2x Hygger 042. It’s like the cheapest DC flow pump ever, but they’re silent and generate a lot of flow (claim is “2114 GPH”). On max output they are still quieter than my Sicce Syncra Pro return pump AC.
I forgot to say thank you for helping hobbyists!!
I’ll give you a double comment. Buy the same coral from multiple coral sellers and compare. Don’t worry about making enemies. Keep it up.
Only suggestions for improvements:
- Improve the audio and video quality.
- Take it a little slower with presentation of results.
Otherwise, love the premise and format, eager to see more pumps and other products tested.
Thank you for the suggestions!
I agree, also Salem being very formal is a bit odd given he is way more chill in the reef recap. Was still good though.
agreed
Good video guys! Maybe AB+ next time? Seems to work great on other videos and is relatively cheap. Also, maybe dumb it down for the less intelligent like myself. I can’t be the only one.. right? …Anyone? 😩
Joking aside, I would assume most people aren’t going to know what to do with some of this data. You can tell us how many decibels the noise is, but to the average reefer, we don’t know what that means entirely. Just tell us if ReefBuilders thinks it’s quiet or not. Did it pass the quiet test? Or did it fail?
We should do a section of the gauntlet where we try and see which product is strong like let it keep mixing kalk non stop
Given my experience with kalk slurry, this is a great idea. The wear and tear test.
Appreciate the gamut of tests here. Pacing is a bit fast, style a bit intense. Audio could definitely use some improvement (noticable even on my cruddy phone speakers). Really good video editing has a learning curve, so no worries, it's understandable considering this is the first proper review under your belt. Thanks Salem!
Thank you reef builders for getting back to this.. been way too long since anyone has given unbiased reviews. My pockets are not unlimited so any information I can use to help me solve any issues or problems is greatly appreciated.
awesome video 👌
Salem, good initial video! You should check out Gamers Nexus and how they do a bunch of their reviews for PC Hardware. Similar format but different topic.
Also, as a few others have said, relax! (and audio quality).
Add the Octo Pulse 4?
That’s on our list
I found the video very repetitive in a lot of the data getting to the point would keep the attention of the viewers, and some feedback on the quality of the video and audio could be better there some settings on the DJI mic you may want to turn down the gain.
This was good, but I would say the pumps used are all different styles.
I’d like to see the following compared in groups of pump styles:
Sicce Xstreme
Jecod SOW
Tunze Stream
Jecod MLW
AI Nero
Hygger
Jecod dmp 40
Ecotech mp40
+ the gyre style pumps
This way we could directly compare price to performance for like products. This was still interesting though, and kind of showed that whilst the Hygger was much cheaper it had pretty useless flow compared to the other two.. but is that because of the style of pump or the individual manufacturer?
I like this idea - my goal was to compare pumps 2000 GPH or so that were controllable but this makes more sense as an organizational matrix
@@salemclemens6148lol you replied before I could even finish an edit 😅
Yes I think the actual flow rate is important but less so than comparing like with like. This video gave more information about the flow pattern different pump styles make more than anything.
Hell yes, so excited for these videos. You are my fav on the pod cast.
Mine too! -Remy
LOVE this!! Would like to see some nano-specific gear in the future. Maybe skimmers and filter rollers!
whats the ongoing matter lol :D
Sponsorship rebuttal
@@josephfriedrich9792 soooo ecotech and AI?
So the Jecods are truly an affordable option if you don’t mind throw away wave engines
It’s crazy Salem is so young, but he’s been reef keeping for a decade. 😮
he never age.
He’s an old soul.
Light A7, A8, Popbloom and other popular from China.
I really wanna see how those lights stand up to the Brand name counter parts. They look too good to be true
Great job. No opinion, just facts. The graphics helped.
I would suggest a slower pace and a little more relaxed tone, but it's just my taste.
Congratulations and thanks.
Thanks for this Salem, Remy and Raj! Darn, does it always have to be 'you get what you pay for'? Really looking forward to more of these!
I want to know power-to-flow efficiency vs. just energy efficiency. More important to understand what 10 watts gets me in A vs. B. I don’t trust the advertised flow rate values. Biggest spec I want independent testing on.
SMART is an algorithm that can make use of particle flow otherwhise ultrasound could be used as well.
To be honest i have the same interest😊
SLW/MLW big diameter best price and not bad quality
we all knnow ppl gonna buy Jecod no matter what.
Great concept and something the hobby sorely misses.
Some feedback
Pacing is a bit off. Take your time.
Audio wasn't great.
If you use B-roll and just record a separate audio track and overlay it you can easily swap out the audio if you catch any errors (ie -Teslas vs Gauss). It will also stop the echoey sound quality.
Qualitative nature of the flow cones. Yes but here you could still add some discussion. I don't do quantification of histology images in my papers but I do discuss them.
At the end of the video it would've been nice to see the numbers as well as the red green labeling.
If you guys ever start presenting data that needs statistical analysis or you want to move away from excel generated graphing options, I have access to graphpsd prism. Would be happy to volunteer/contribute/collaborate
Nice to see this kinda content come back to reefing.
You need a lab coat and black plastic rim glasses. School is in session
The videos was never this poorly made when jake was running the gaf. Get your stuff together !!
Thanks for the feedback Mark.
What is Aperture/Ecotech/AI so afraid of? Ok, so Jecod cloned your pumps....let's see how much better yours are!?
Make reefing fun! Not trying to hate. I love old BRS investigate videos, but I reef to relax. The energy is way off! would be better received if Remi did it!
Thought this was Jory Jordan from "Shoresy."
The audio is killing me
Really support this idea! Well done.
Reef Builders I gotta give it to you straight: Good concept but poor delivery. This video had way too much useless information and on three separate products. If you’re gonna do a deep dive like that, then maybe try sticking to one pump at a time. Alternatively, you could try showing the best uses for each pump: where one excels and the others are lacking. Just food for thought.
Thank you - this is the honesty and feed back we want so we can improve - I appreciate you taking the time to comment
Not sure I like the video format of this. Aside from the poor video and audio quality, there’s a lot of filler for just data. Be better off just publishing an article with all the details in a clean and clear format. I don’t want to search through a video hunting down all the data scattered throughout the video that’s shown for 2 seconds at a time. Maybe publish a video showing how tests are done and leave the results in article format
Testing gyres
That’s in the pipeline
The hygger flow pattern was terrible. Its because of rhe shape and how they put the slits on the reduced surface inrake of the pump. I was thinking about getting the pump. ...Not anymore. The jecod and sicce was much mich better
What matter is going on 🐙
Where is the house music intro? The calmness and chill of the channel is gone.
No joke, I think you should rate the music in each video in the comments. I always kinda wonder if I'm picking the right stuff. Most of the time I feel like it's on brand. Lets use a scale from 1-10. Promise I'm not being a smart ass, lol! ~Remy
Reef builders is strong as ever.
u funny
Awesome video, Image and audio quality can improve.. and talk slower and calm .. to preset the data.. Test 2 was better ... wanna see more
So it was a very odd video.
good intentions for sure but this is far from what rb used to be from all angles..video style and quality, sounds and music. Even the application of instruction for the viewer.
ripped eyes??? Being serious is great but this is a different video for sure. Got me kinda sad to think about what Jake Adams would think. 🤔
Hi, that’s just what I look like
Thanks for watching
@ no mean to be at all judgmental. My apologies for pour word choice.
Hard to look past the obvious .
What's with the poor production value ? The audio is horrible and the presentation too intense. This is a hobby. It should be fun.
Negative sir. This is some serious business 🤣🤣🤣
I'm sure they would let you pay for someone to professionally edit the video, they will get better as they go, patience my friend
It’s called watching the video before posting it to see what it looks like. Review and editing can go a long way. I am open to letting new things run there course but this is an odd videos and performance.
incorrectly selected products for testing....
Only three pumps? What a waste. Where is the Nero 3? Come on, do better.
Someone didn’t watch the video.
@amoore311 sure i did. What are you referring too.
Not putting 2 and 2 together. 🙃
@ReefBuildersVideo i don't think so. So where was the Nero 3.?
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