Jay ol bro defently gonna get 7052 this fall I'm unto engines and wheel so if you are making gun parts this machine should have no prob holding tolerance for sprockets and spacers thank you for putting up these vids helped this country boy make up his mind
the plastic gears are in place to strip out in case of a jam up, they're sacrificial so you don't damage any of of the major parts, transmission, apron, lead screw etc
Well not really, I haven't heard of anyone having to replace those gears, its the one thing I didn't like about buying the g0602, but on page 62 of the manual it says the roll pin or shear pin is for that on the lead screw, I researched alot, the 9x19 and the 8x16 have this but not the 7x14 as far as I could tell, but I wanted this size of lathe or bigger but what I could afford
JAY - I just bought a Grizzly metal lathe and noticed the exact same thing about the chip tray. It was a WTF moment when I realized that I had to shim about 3/16" under the six mounting holes. Why would they make it like that? After considerable time and thought, I decided to mount the lathe directly to my homemade bench (very similar to yours but not a cosmetically nice) without the chip tray. Then it hit me. That chip tray is designed to be used in conjunction with their way overpriced el cheapo Chinese stand for $334.00 (price includes shipping). There are raised sections on the stand to compensate for the recessed design of the chip tray. What a gyp. So I 86ed the chip tray, mounted right to my bench, and stole a very heavy duty cookie sheet from my wife to use as my new chip tray. Also, you're so right. It was freakin' VERY HARD to move my lathe into place... much harder than I originally thought. Good video and thanks for making it. You have helped me.
+Bourne Accident I'm glad my video was helpful and glad you got yours into place without killing yourself. Also, thanks for sharing the reason behind the odd spacing under the lathe and chip tray. Your chip tray solution is funny. I promise not to tell your wife. :)
@Jay Williams U should of did a Test Run on the Machine before u started painting, in case it didn't work, I don't think they would take it back if it's painted
Nice lathe and setup brother, one thing I noticed is that carpet. Might want to put rubber or some hard flooring all around the lathe or it will become quite a hassle. I have a small lathe like that and when i'm turning big projects I'll have a ball of chips as high as my waist. Have fun, that's a great lathe for the money.
+Arock PCB Thanks! I actually bought a good sized plastic chair mat like you put at your desk so your chair can roll around (at my wife's suggestion). It definitely helps keep things neater. Thanks for the suggestion!
just getting in to your channel, sorry I thought that vid was just posted and not a year old. Im sure you have worked out all the kinks by now. I'll be watching, thanks
What are the outside dimensions of your table? Would you change them now that you have used it a while. I'm going to build one, just want it the right dimensions the first time. Thanks.
Mine is 60" x 19". It works fine considering my limited space in a room inside the house. Given the location of mine, I would do it the same if I had to do it again. If you put yours in the garage or have more space, however, definitely make it bigger.
Damn man you must have metal chips everywhere in that carpet...I only now realise how far the chips fly in my workshop....where I have carpet square on the floor too....
outbackdigital My wife suggested I put something on the floor so I bought one of those plastic mats you put under your desk chair so it's easier to roll around. Got it Office Depot, I think. It's pretty big and really helps.
Man you have my sympathy in getting that lathe upstairs.... I have just been thought the same process of unboxing my lathe which is almost the same as yours.... but I did not have to get it upstairs... I just had to move it into my shed and get it up onto the table that came with it.... That was a nightmare with out a proper trolley... so I rented a 500 kg trolley table to do it with. I still ended up dropping the Lathe onto my little finger and crushing the shit out of it , it's been a week and a half now and my finger is still to sore to touch. Damn....
outbackdigital D'oh!!! Made me grimace hearing about your finger. You'd think it would be easy, right? Just a little hobby lathe! When my buddy came over the next week, I held up my arms. There were bruises all over them just from lifting the thing. I'm glad your ordeal is over and that it wasn't worse.
Shim the chip tray at the mounting hole location. I stopped watching at that point. The footprint of the lathe is well within parameters for that design to work. You cant just plop it on a counter and start working. That would be unwise for the longevity of the machine and not the best setup for precise machining.
The reason you have that gap under the chip tray, is because it fits flush if you purchase the bench from grizzly, but you still have to drill the holes.
I just bought a Grizzly lathe but the pan fits flat on my home built lathe bench. I think if you turn the pan upside down and put a strait edge, you can see if there is any bow in the pan from stamping. It should pull down when the bolts are tightened.
Hi, thank you for uploading this video, great to see other people opinions.. I have question about the accuracy of the Bed and the spindle also the accuracy of the slide compound is the spindle runout around .0001 or more? I see grizzly they grind the bed without flaking it!! so how flat is the bed ? you know the scraping is much more accurate but grinding only !! just don't know how much tolerance this lathe can hold! and if it's better than the old south bend lathe!
+Ozy Ozy I haven't measured any of those things. If I do a project that requires very high precision, maybe I'll take some measurements. If so, I'll share them here.
I don't know about the bed, but I just took some measurements of the spindle and the 3-jaw that comes with the lathe. Runout on lathe spindle: ≈ .0002" Runout on the 3-jaw: < .002" (using a .500" gage pin) Using the big 4-jaw that comes with the lathe, you can do better, of course. I honestly can't imagine needing better precision than that (spindle + 4-jaw). I'll still use the 3-jaw for most things.
IMHO, the ball in the ball oil port blocks the oil from the oiler tip as you push the latter onto the ball. Do you think this needs a special tip for your oiler? Maybe one that has a tip in the center that pushes the ball in, then the outer circumference of the oiler sits against the inside circumference of the oil port. So, having pushed the ball in, the oil flows around it and onto the bearing inside.
I think you're exactly right. The cheap oil can I have (I think I got it at O'Reilley Auto Parts) seems to work great. It's got a pointy tip that does as you describe.
Thank you Jay, I was actually asking what model of PHASE II quick change tool post you got to use with the lathe. I have read conflicting notes about compatibility with the G0752. Thank you Again.
Great video, thanks for the information. This is the lathe I'm nearly certain I want to get. I, too, am building an airplane...Zenith CH 750 STOL. I'm becoming a tool addict over the course of this project (as if I wasn't already), and want add the capabilities of lathe and mill, even though I don't really need them. Still learning to TIG weld too, so lots of irons in the fire.
Well, here we are 9 months later and I still haven't purchased a lathe...but I have updated my channel a ton! Pretty certain this is the lathe I'm going to get, and they offer it with a DRO now. Are you still having good luck with the lathe?
I feel for you. The weight distribution on these things is so whacky. I had to use a shop crane for my grizzly rotating head bandsaw and will use it when I buy this lathe and a mill. Great vid btw.
I bought the G0720 Heavy Bench mill when they moved out of PA. $3000.00+ mill, in 9/15, used maybe eight hours in that time frame, milled aluminum only. I now get a ERR message when I try to run the drill motor...they now want almost $400.00 for a new controlo board that must install. NO more Grizzly for me.
god this guy is such a whiner! oh boo hoo, a big metal machine was heavy, boo hoo I cut my finger, boo hoo there's grease on the machine, omgggg and then he used WD-40 to clean it?! blasphemy!
Jay ol bro defently gonna get 7052 this fall I'm unto engines and wheel so if you are making gun parts this machine should have no prob holding tolerance for sprockets and spacers thank you for putting up these vids helped this country boy make up his mind
the plastic gears are in place to strip out in case of a jam up, they're sacrificial so you don't damage any of of the major parts, transmission, apron, lead screw etc
Well not really, I haven't heard of anyone having to replace those gears, its the one thing I didn't like about buying the g0602, but on page 62 of the manual it says the roll pin or shear pin is for that on the lead screw, I researched alot, the 9x19 and the 8x16 have this but not the 7x14 as far as I could tell, but I wanted this size of lathe or bigger but what I could afford
Thank you for the indepth vids of this, I'm looking into ordering one really soon...moving it into the basement :/ kind of dreading it...
I would recommend just taking it totally apart first. Might save yourself some grief.
Will do, I may be leaning towards a slightly smaller Sieg which should be more manageable.
JAY - I just bought a Grizzly metal lathe and noticed the exact same thing about the chip tray. It was a WTF moment when I realized that I had to shim about 3/16" under the six mounting holes. Why would they make it like that? After considerable time and thought, I decided to mount the lathe directly to my homemade bench (very similar to yours but not a cosmetically nice) without the chip tray. Then it hit me. That chip tray is designed to be used in conjunction with their way overpriced el cheapo Chinese stand for $334.00 (price includes shipping). There are raised sections on the stand to compensate for the recessed design of the chip tray. What a gyp. So I 86ed the chip tray, mounted right to my bench, and stole a very heavy duty cookie sheet from my wife to use as my new chip tray. Also, you're so right. It was freakin' VERY HARD to move my lathe into place... much harder than I originally thought. Good video and thanks for making it. You have helped me.
+Bourne Accident I'm glad my video was helpful and glad you got yours into place without killing yourself. Also, thanks for sharing the reason behind the odd spacing under the lathe and chip tray. Your chip tray solution is funny. I promise not to tell your wife. :)
Bourne Accident that chip tray is made like that because there was suppose to be four rubber feet that go under the tray and both into the lathe
@Jay Williams U should of did a Test Run on the Machine before u started painting, in case it didn't work, I don't think they would take it back if it's painted
Nice lathe and setup brother, one thing I noticed is that carpet. Might want to put rubber or some hard flooring all around the lathe or it will become quite a hassle. I have a small lathe like that and when i'm turning big projects I'll have a ball of chips as high as my waist. Have fun, that's a great lathe for the money.
+Arock PCB Thanks!
I actually bought a good sized plastic chair mat like you put at your desk so your chair can roll around (at my wife's suggestion). It definitely helps keep things neater. Thanks for the suggestion!
just getting in to your channel, sorry I thought that vid was just posted and not a year old. Im sure you have worked out all the kinks by now. I'll be watching, thanks
No sweat.
What are the outside dimensions of your table? Would you change them now that you have used it a while. I'm going to build one, just want it the right dimensions the first time. Thanks.
Mine is 60" x 19". It works fine considering my limited space in a room inside the house. Given the location of mine, I would do it the same if I had to do it again. If you put yours in the garage or have more space, however, definitely make it bigger.
Damn man you must have metal chips everywhere in that carpet...I only now realise how far the chips fly in my workshop....where I have carpet square on the floor too....
outbackdigital My wife suggested I put something on the floor so I bought one of those plastic mats you put under your desk chair so it's easier to roll around. Got it Office Depot, I think. It's pretty big and really helps.
Man you have my sympathy in getting that lathe upstairs....
I have just been thought the same process of unboxing my lathe which is almost the same as yours.... but I did not have to get it upstairs... I just had to move it into my shed and get it up onto the table that came with it.... That was a nightmare with out a proper trolley... so I rented a 500 kg trolley table to do it with. I still ended up dropping the Lathe onto my little finger and crushing the shit out of it , it's been a week and a half now and my finger is still to sore to touch. Damn....
outbackdigital D'oh!!! Made me grimace hearing about your finger. You'd think it would be easy, right? Just a little hobby lathe! When my buddy came over the next week, I held up my arms. There were bruises all over them just from lifting the thing. I'm glad your ordeal is over and that it wasn't worse.
Thanks for the reply Jay, only thing I don't have yet is the Quick change tool post... $$$$ soon
It's not supposed to that's the drain hole for the oil if you use a wet bath system
Good info, Bob. Thanks.
Douggie look into the g4000 that is the one I'm looking at.
Shim the chip tray at the mounting hole location. I stopped watching at that point. The footprint of the lathe is well within parameters for that design to work. You cant just plop it on a counter and start working. That would be unwise for the longevity of the machine and not the best setup for precise machining.
The reason you have that gap under the chip tray, is because it fits flush if you purchase the bench from grizzly, but you still have to drill the holes.
I just bought a Grizzly lathe but the pan fits flat on my home built lathe bench. I think if you turn the pan upside down and put a strait edge, you can see if there is any bow in the pan from stamping. It should pull down when the bolts are tightened.
I noticed when you were lubing the gears that they seem to have a lot of play in them. Is that causing you any problems?
+nbadhorse It's easy to adjust. I probably just needed to tighten them up. It hasn't been a problem.
Hi, thank you for uploading this video, great to see other people opinions..
I have question about the accuracy of the Bed and the spindle also the accuracy of the slide compound is the spindle runout around .0001 or more?
I see grizzly they grind the bed without flaking it!! so how flat is the bed ? you know the scraping is much more accurate but grinding only !! just don't know how much tolerance this lathe can hold! and if it's better than the old south bend lathe!
+Ozy Ozy I haven't measured any of those things. If I do a project that requires very high precision, maybe I'll take some measurements. If so, I'll share them here.
I don't know about the bed, but I just took some measurements of the spindle and the 3-jaw that comes with the lathe.
Runout on lathe spindle: ≈ .0002"
Runout on the 3-jaw: < .002" (using a .500" gage pin)
Using the big 4-jaw that comes with the lathe, you can do better, of course. I honestly can't imagine needing better precision than that (spindle + 4-jaw). I'll still use the 3-jaw for most things.
IMHO, the ball in the ball oil port blocks the oil from the oiler tip as you push the latter onto the ball. Do you think this needs a special tip for your oiler? Maybe one that has a tip in the center that pushes the ball in, then the outer circumference of the oiler sits against the inside circumference of the oil port. So, having pushed the ball in, the oil flows around it and onto the bearing inside.
I think you're exactly right. The cheap oil can I have (I think I got it at O'Reilley Auto Parts) seems to work great. It's got a pointy tip that does as you describe.
Do you mind telling exactly which Quick change tool post model you got and if you have run into any issues/limitations using it? Thank you Jay.
This may answer your question. I love it. No problems. Highly recommended.
th-cam.com/video/M3eYceOHjog/w-d-xo.html
Thank you, Jay.
Did you get the 9"-12" swing one? or the 10" swing one? thank you.
You can read the specs here:
www.grizzly.com/products/10-x-22-Variable-Speed-Lathe/G0752
Thank you Jay, I was actually asking what model of PHASE II quick change tool post you got to use with the lathe. I have read conflicting notes about compatibility with the G0752. Thank you Again.
Great video, thanks for the information. This is the lathe I'm nearly certain I want to get. I, too, am building an airplane...Zenith CH 750 STOL. I'm becoming a tool addict over the course of this project (as if I wasn't already), and want add the capabilities of lathe and mill, even though I don't really need them. Still learning to TIG weld too, so lots of irons in the fire.
+GK Sounds like we're in the same boat, GK. You going to have a blog or post TH-cam videos of your build?
Well, here we are 9 months later and I still haven't purchased a lathe...but I have updated my channel a ton! Pretty certain this is the lathe I'm going to get, and they offer it with a DRO now. Are you still having good luck with the lathe?
How is that aircraft going. Getting ready to work on a Neuiport 12. Also looking at this lathe. How has it worked for you?
Thanks Jeff
I feel for you. The weight distribution on these things is so whacky. I had to use a shop crane for my grizzly rotating head bandsaw and will use it when I buy this lathe and a mill. Great vid btw.
I bought the G0720 Heavy Bench mill when they moved out of PA. $3000.00+ mill, in 9/15, used maybe eight hours in that time frame, milled aluminum only. I now get a ERR message when I try to run the drill motor...they now want almost $400.00 for a new controlo board that must install. NO more Grizzly for me.
god this guy is such a whiner! oh boo hoo, a big metal machine was heavy, boo hoo I cut my finger, boo hoo there's grease on the machine, omgggg
and then he used WD-40 to clean it?! blasphemy!