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This really does break my heart. I was born in and lived in Thamesmead for 25 years. I have so many happy memories of these ‘streets in the sky’ as you call them. My childhood home and playground is now gone! 😔😢
My mum lived in Thamesmead at 17 Wolvercote Road, Hinksey Path for 39 years. I was 22 when we moved away in 2010 as it was starting to feel unsafe to live in with many arseholes lingering around. But despite that, it was sad to move away and breaks my heart knowing Wolvercote Road will eventually be pulled down too.
They could of even housed the homeless in those flats.
How does that make sense they are trynna push the homeless and the poor up north hence the actions they are taking its happening all over east london aswell. All in all it makes sense London is expensive if your claiming benefits it doeant make sense for you to live in London.
Seeing it pulled down breaks my heart. Thamesmead was in all the architecture books about modern architecture. There are some housing estates in The Netherlands that have some design similarities in that they feature some form of streets in the sky. Something that comes to mind is a 1970’s housing estate in Zutphen in a neighbourhood called “De Waarden”. It may not be as epic, but it has a basic version of the streets in the sky complex. In that same part of Zutphen there are some maisonette flats that comprise of two stacked row houses located in the “Moesmate” and “Tichelkuilen” streets. Thamesmead also seems to partially be built using a modular concrete formwork system where the load bearing walls between the flats and the floors are cast with a tunnel moulding system. I noticed that some of the walls at the stairs in the dwellings where comprised of in-situ framing parts filled in with lightweight blockwork. I couldn’t see if they only did this for end walls of a block. All the partition walls where probably light weight blockwork as well by the looks of it.
Thamesmead was focal in the movie Beautiful Thing, as the home of the main characters. This video provides some really great footage of the development! I'm off to find your other video and check that out too - I'm fascinated by the design of this development. Great job 👍
Bingo! That was the most important film shot there if you ask me. Great, sweet late 90's Teenage dramedy... F*ck that pub in Grenwich they were going to move to, Thamesmead seemed way cooler...
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Why are so many buildings being pulled down? They are now pulling down Chart Leacon railway depot in Ashford
there's nothing that warms my heart more than someone ripping the construction and maintenance industry a new one
I am a huge fan of brutalist architecture and while there are many, many brilliant examples of it - beautiful in fact; truth be told there were/are also disastrous examples. Thamesmead, beyond the architecture was a colossal failure. It like most of Elephant & Castle needs pulling down. It was a social experiment gone horribly wrong. Had they built a tube stop, DLR stop, Overground stop, any transportation hub and all the necessary shopping areas BEFORE or immediately upon completion, then it may have stood a chance. Remember - the whole idea of Thamesmead was to house those difficult to house and those displaced due to clearing various slums with in the greater city area. So perhaps it was domed from the start. There is no disguising the fact it was a colossal failure. I am very much in favour of it being regenerated and re-planed. It should be a lovely area but does need a horrendous amount of work and good foresight in proper planning. Funny how the Victorians could build the most magnificent, jaw-droppingly beautiful building - the palace of poo, Abbey Woods and also Crossness simply to shift sewage - then less than a century later - what will all the advancements we ended up with concrete and rebar for people to live in. Interesting!
Hello Beno. This brings back memories of being a mobile jock in London. I did gigs in Thamesmead area in its heyday which included youth centres in the area, including Crayford, Dansen, sidcup, Abbeymead, and favourite one was thamesmead which was a unique hexagonal multi-level building. Was it there in recent years, and did you get any photos of it ??
i built the whole of Thamesmead in minecraft a few months back. such a shame to see it go. another piece of architecture ruined. they think that just because it is a 70s housing estate, it shouldn't be preserved. how could this work of art be allowed to be destroyed?
Do you have a video of it
I lived there from 1971 until 1977. It was an amazing place to grow up and I find it sad to see that the places of my childhood were destroyed in this manner.
Imagine giving council tenants "listed building" status! Are you mad? English Heritage would never be so stupid - even if the building *were* of architectural significance. I wonder whether the building was still structurally sound? I suspect so, with 10" thick solid concrete floors. It could easily have been refurbished but then that would mean the council spending millions when they will make millions selling the land to crooked developers to build yet more unaffordable and substandard horseshit pfft.
No wonder Dobbin was huffing and puffing his fake head off!
Scottish horse got to see a fellow English horse in Thamesmead!
I’ve feared this day would come. Since hearing about Thamesmead being pulled down in your 2015 video about it, I’m not sure if other ‘streets in the sky’ will survive... 2020 couldn’t get any worse.
I agree with your views on EH. Not fit for purpose. I feel the same about old bus garages, so many have been demolished and very few left, although one in Nottingham has amazingly been listed recently. I reckon now there are very few Starkey designed Thomas Tilling bus garages or bus stations left. Were any of Scottish Horse's friends tethered outside?
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IKR!
Abbeywood had one of the best architectural tower blocks and now they are pulling it down. I sometimes go to Abbeywood and it looks very sad now.
Apparently in the 1980s the estate was a massive youth crime hub with many of the teens and young adults who lived there regularly committing violent crimes inside and outside the estate and even many driving instructors back then had to blacklist the suburbs surrounding the estate! Pretty much the troublesome teens made it extremely dangerous to drive anywhere near the estate as they would often be driving recklessly and causing major crashes that were often deadly. Things luckily seemingly improved in the 1990s with additional law enforcement in the area.
I lived in Thamsmead for many years and this breaks my heart it’s the only place Iv ever felt like home a sad sad day
Very sad. I used to fish in the Lakes and canals around Thamesmead from about 1980 through to the late 1990s and lived there for about 3 years. I found it an absolutely fascinating place and parts of it always felt like the backdrop to a science fiction film. But....it did have some social problems and I had some not so good experiences as a result of that too. I do miss it a great deal though and its extremely sad to see the great buildings I once walked past as I made my way from the 177 bus stop to Southmere in the early dawn light, are no longer there. I completely agree with you about English Heritage, they are only interested in what they can make money from. Thanks for making this video and bringing back those memories for me.
Spent 22 years of my life in Thamesmead. Then moved away in 2010 as it was becoming a shithole. Glad I don't live there anymore. Do kind of miss my old house though and feel a little sad as it will also be pulled down eventually. Went round there recently and they haven't actually reached where my old house is yet, Wolvercote Road.
I learned about Thamesmead in the late 90s from film "beautiful thing" and wondered how nice it would be to visit it
I went there to have a good poke around in 2013 and even back then they'd demolished quite a few buildings. I mainly went to Thamesmead to find the locations from the film Beautiful Thing, most of which where still (just about) there. If you don't know the film just watch it, there's a lot of Thamesmead to see, including the social club by the lake.
Still, it's very sad to see it all being demolished, I thought it was an amazing place (although I wouldn't have wanted to live there)....
They could totally keep that last section as a public monument, remove all the windows and doors, pebbledash the insides and you're got another Apollo Pavilion
Why people destroy old and history stuff
Another social disaster with high maintenance costs along with expensive heating bills finally removed to be replaced with a new concept designed around the wellbeing of people for a change such as at Kid Brooke village.
Except a newbuilt flat costs half a mill and you don't even know what quality it is until after a decade or two. Thamesmead was amazing architecture well thought out inside out, a pleasure to live in. What high maintenance costs? Higher than razing everything and building anew? Not to mention this fuckery has already been going on almost 10 years, people literally living in limbo on a construction yard, many of whom will lose the equity of their flats if they choose to stay in the area. After the windows were replaced in the towers they are as good as new. People should just learn to not be wasteful with the energy, UK isn't a cold country -- but hey, the throwaway mentality expands all the way up to the housing..
I was watching misfits and it’s set in thamesmead and it just looks so unique n peaceful next to the lake it’s not even cruddy wtf and they have to pull down a masterpiece of history smh
It’s a disgusting building
We'll always have A Clockwork Orange \m/
NOOOOOO!!!!! At least you have the tower block Archive (or Apartment Complex Archive for Canadian and or USA english) so we can still remember and see them digitaly
It’s criminal this estate was demolished !! The balconies in the maisonettes were really big , you’d never get that again in today’s new builds 👎🏻 This estate was fascinating and I think stood the test of time architecturally . But just like so many other large estates in the UK of that era poorly maintained and left to rot !!! Very sad .
Used to work in Thamesmead as a natural gas technician. It wasn’t a nice place tbh. I heard the crime got worse there overtime as well.
I feel you, Allum Hotel in Batam Island,Riau Islands,Indonesia (which is my favourite hotel by the way) turned into Sheraton Hotel, I am sad because they got controls in every room for the lamps & lights, by the way their lifts are also cool & sort of has coffee perfume, rlly miss it
BENO I have a question, how do you reset the elevator car voice ananciator on a KONE traction elevator?
American elevators have completely different designs to lifts. Also it is dependent on what logic controller it has.
@@benolifts thanks for your reply, it’s in Australia, I’m not sure what logic model is but it is brand new only installed 6 months ago and it looks like a common Kone logic control
@@Bens172 Should be about the same as any other LCE. The only thing to note is that most Australian lifts use a voice designed for the AU market (aka the Macquarie Centre voice).
It looks like that horse at 0:33 has a Lexus badge logo on its neck 😂😂😂
Lived there in Clewer House(blue window frames) for 6months a few years ago. Amazing place to explore, but so much serious crime went on
And you have just hit on the reason they came down: crime.
There’s a very good reason nothing like it was built anywhere else in the world
After finding out that Aphex Twin - Come To Daddy , And A clockwork Orange was both filmed around Thamesmead i can see why it was slammed so much. I still wouldn't go into the area after dark.
Constructed using large panel system?
This one wasn't. There are many of those also being pulled down right now
@@benolifts ABA......
Is that a Nittan fire alarm system?
I said something along these lines in a video you made about another old brutalist housing complex that was on the chopping block... its such a shame that there's so little love for structures like this. And yea, this gets bonus points for having those strange, twisting, jagged corridors. I've never seen anything like it, and its a crime that its getting demolished. Any idea what they're gonna build on the site? Probably some shitty luxury apartments, right?
These buildings were very well built. Thick 60cm thick concrete walls. They built places properly back then. The new buildings will be the typical bog standard very cheap concrete framed (with tiny thin concrete structure) with fake brick cladding. It is depressing how so many people see brick cladding and think it is structural, despite the brick work having weird gaps and ends. All the bricks are doing is adding unnecessary weight to the building. They will have cheap MRL lifts and the building layout will be nothing worth mentioning. I would rather have streets in the sky over yet more faceless new builds.
Omg no not that 1! I thought they would at least keep parts of it.
I know so sad 💫
Sad to watch the footage of this place being built & the time, money and resources that went into it all, just for people to mistreat it over the years. Unfortunately it’s met it’s demise. Very sad to see it go, rip thamesmead
It was wonderfully radical in terms of design, but the properties leaked from day one, the shops and the jobs were never provided, and the tube line never came, because in their eyes, what was the point of extending a tube line to where poor people live?
My friend idrinkyourmilkshake told me u might be coming to Nottingham at some point, at the NET tram stop at QMC there is a rlly bad generic lift that gets stuck 24/7 it literally got stuck because someone moved slightly, Idrink had to go on top and deal with it because the engineer was nowhere to be seen.
You should go to Eastfields Estate in Mitcham Surrey was built in 1972 won awards for design.. sadly soon to be demolished for boring new builds.. I was born there.. really sad to see the state it’s in now...
At least it had a movie filmed on it which we can watch for posterity. (Beautiful Thing)
I think you’d like the bedford borough hall building. google it. It’s a very interesting piece of architecture
Argh Man this is like a Knife through the Heart .
That's fantastic I would be fantastic if they built them now. Very sad it got pulled down
London's authentic soul is being massacred. I grew up in the late Heygate Estate, and it plucks a string within, whenever I see these iconic hubs deleted.
Thank good. Was a shit hole. And I lived in Clydesdale house kale rd for 6 years!!!!!
It was mostly a shit hole cuz of the many arseholes in Thamesmead. Modernisation or not, it'll still be a shit hole.
YES! YOU HEARD ME RIGHT?
THAMESMEAD PART 4.
Wow, my local area.
What no way 🔥
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Beno please explore the great block in Dagenham called thaxted house it’s great
Same horse mask I’ve got 😂
You have now got big companies sponsoring your videos. How can I get rid of these stupid sponsor messages?
Thank you so much of this vid... wait, IS THAT A HORSEMAN? 5:00
It is Scottish Horse
Excellent as always Beno #horsehead
This was the perfect place to play hide and seek. If a kid wandered too far away from home, they were quickly taken back home by someone.
Definitely an interesting and historically definitive bit of architecture, but its hard to glorify the reality of the failure of its inherent social flaws and that its space age 'dream' sadly failed
Nice urbex video
Castles and cathedrals have a lot more meaning to them than a shithole in Thamesmead and I was brought up in a shithole in Woolwich which has also been pulled down, so I’m not stuck and can slag off other shitholes like this
Glad we moved away when we did. It was 3 years after we moved when British army soldier Lee Rigby was murdered in Woolwich. And it was only up the road from where my mum and dad used to work.
@@AndrewChapman Not at all broadcasted on the anniversary like other fatalities and he served the country, equality can’t be preached if not put into action by those I.e. the media etc who are preaching it
Grabe! Nawala ang Thamesmead!
I would love to live on the estate my Mom used to live on it
And apparantly their was NO Stress at all to any old person due to being turfed out.
Paul down your own companies tower
What a loss.
Sadly lots of people have a simplistic reductionist view of brutalism. They pass is off as "oh it looks like a bunker"
Lots of brutalism is letdown by its landscape sadly. Brutalism in the uk can look pretty grim I admit. Look up UTS Kuring-gai Sydney Australia. "Gumtree Brutalism"
If anyone thinks this place is ugly and not a jungle temple from a lost future civilisation like I see it......well I don't want to know you :p
@ettlz couldn't agree more!
Also I must ad. I think brutalism in the uk deteriorates far worse than in other countries because of the weather. It also doesn't help that lots of these buildings suffered from poor cover of the rebar because of lack of regulation. I think Tricorn virtually fell apart didn it?
@ettlz kind of reminds me of the Get Carter carpark. Never understood the point of it.
That’s my old house he was in they moved us to bexleyheath
Should have been listed! Fully!!!
Thamesmead, in my experience, was a big public toilet and a mugger's paradise.
Travesty, they did the same with Robin hood Gardens, Balfron Tower survives but they made it look shit
My dream is to come to england (London) one day upon watching a few movies that feature thamesmead its one of my destinations to visit there with its unusual unique 1960s 70s boxy architecture however after watching lots of vids and reading up on the place i had no clue it was being defunct its like going to magic kingdom at walt disney world to go on mr toads wild ride only to find out its now the winnie the pooh ride but yeah it happens here a lot too in the United States old apartment complex and motor lodges malls etc that seemed to be around for an eternity become demolished and no longer standing
It probably isn't worth coming to Thamesmead now, the interesting parts are now gone, and the other parts are hard to get in. Tower Hamlets is interesting to visit for tower blocks, but you need someone who has the keys.
@@benolifts I know the smaller flats like the ones used in Beautiful Thing those were so cool 😎 looking but the towers too they look really interesting maybe i could talk one of the residents into giving me a lift on the lift lol 😂 wishful thinking 🤔 but never hurts to ask
@@Italian144 go in the day time and be careful who you speak to. Thamesmead is a lot safer now than it was 10years ago but still one of the more dangerous errors in south east London
Id imagine for the majority of people there would be very little to no interest in that building
and nothing anyone can say will make me change my mind about life membership
....and been replaced with what looks like a modern day version of the old Thamesmead estate!...the new gaffs have been built so close together, you will be able to reach across to the neighboring block and open their windows !!....it already looks like a massive shit-hole.....clock the joke advertising for this new place..it will only be a matter of time before the new Pub gets closed down and turned into an African church, restaurant gets closed down and turned into chip-shop (lovely....I like chips)....and all the other fuck-uppery you can possibly imagine..... CAN'T WAIT 😆
I could walk about quarter mile to shop with out walking on any actuall road
Streets in the sky certainly should be reincarnated.
Why would they get rid of streets in the sky? It's such a unique and original design that should be used frequently. This type of architecture should be everywhere in the modern world, but no, they just want to make it all boring buildings instead.
Those corridors were I expect a rabbit warren of crime
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they pulled it down because it wasn't built properly mate.
This section of Thamesmead isn't LPS as far as I know. The buildings are well built. It is being pulled down due to political reasons. The failings of the government and council to create a good society in this area have pushed the blame of their failing onto the building architecture.
NOO this is such a shame
That is so terrible! Awful decision!
we must keep old buildings like that.
Too right but the councils don’t care and probably wouldn’t anyway. Bastards.
Thamesmead should have been demolished decades ago. By all accounts I've seen it was a terrible place to live and closest thing to a prison there has never been. The crime there was disgusting and the police station was 100 yards away??? Seriously???
Good ridence what a dump I've lived in Lensbury Way all my life.
We lived in Wolvercote Road. While it became a dump and why we moved away, still sad my childhood home will be gone.
Rip GSG
Anyone here in the comments, who used to live there?
That was a nice random pony photo at the beginning
There is a large gypsy community here. Horses are often left tied up on grass verges beside the road.
F please for Thamesmead
F?!?!
Fffffffffff
@KoneLift34 no not that, it’s some sort of respect
@KoneLift34 I see
F
So sad to see
I’m blaming on London Borough of Greenwich.
Greenwich council are another corrupt council that spend too much funds on a very small area of their region while failing to spend adequate money everywhere else. The touristy posh area of Greenwich has loads of money spent on it. But all of the council estates in their bough as in a very poor state. Most likely that the people who run the council are fiends with the rich minority who have influence over the council. Either that or the heads of the council are themselves the rich minority running the place to suit themselves.
@@benolifts That's why I would say "Fuck Greenwich Council" lol
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🤬English Heritage shouldn’t have listed this🤬.
at that rate for as old as it was i dont blame the council for ripping it down it probably wasnt so interesting for the people that lived there or the people who kept it up for all those years. some times its time to build a new and look foward to the future.
And then you turn the corner and get mugged or stabbed
Yeah, that's not really gonna be resolved by modernising the estate.
Save THAMESMEAD
Bit late for that now
Sad to see an experimental and unique piece of British architectural heritage blasted apart for banal boxes... Typical... Also, build any damn train connection already...
I like your androids footage Vids
Cheap system built rubbish. Those twisting walkways only contributed to the crime rate.
This is the result of having a conservative government
haha, yes sure
That's a shame.........
Yes, it’s a shame you’ve got an obsession with spamming....
@KoneLift34 They all encourage “hack Beno”
Too. I’d say that counts as threatening behaviour/harassment/spam. You should do the same, YT will eventually ban this CLOWN.
@@NCHLT Not seen his replies to my comment ?
I get that it’s unique, but it’s an eyesore for sure. 60s Design makes me want to throw up.
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@@oscaroidacomedyfan3155 don’t speak spanish mate.
@KoneLift34 Shit language I'd take it
@KoneLift34 close enough.