The STAP was so cool in Star Wars and I really liked them in both Episode 1 and TCW. They really fit the Trade Federation and CIS aesthetic as a whole.
Probably woulda needed a total overhaul though. Their already limited battery would be severely taxed by a shield generator, evidenced by how the titular Destroyers needed like twelve batteries and a built-in reactor. If the STAP was then given better batteries and the generator, it would likely become heavier and bulkier, reducing its speed... which was primarily its whole thing.
It's a wonder how Anakin was able to ride one of these things on Alaris Prime without falling off. Bear in mind he had to outrun the blast radius of Dooku's Force Harvester while also having to navigate a dense forest with the constant risk of hitting a tree while under fire from defense turrets and enemy STAPs.
To be fair, he did that using the Force and his training. I think I could do it, but since my luck and coordination is so bad I would have to actively try to fall off in order to manage it.
the strange thing is the STAP could have been a great mobile anti infantry turret, as you said it has about the same damage output as a Destroyer droid, if you put a good quality shield Infront of the driver they could in a offensive action, fly in lockdown onto the ground and deal out suppressing fire then when the attack is ready to move rather then having to pack up the gun it can take off again and fly forward ahead of the advancing troops land and repeat, while in a defensive action the STAP could be used as a force multiplier a portable highspeed turret that when defending from multiple points of attack can change position rapidly depending on where they are needed most
Make it a tad bigger and give it a metal shield in front in style of droideka snipers and you have a speedy little anti personel vehicle. These things are pretty cool
The CIS Also is the organization with one of the best causes! Government threw representation, something the Old Republic lost by this time period! I’m not talking about the Mega Corporations or the Sith manipulation of it! I’m talking about the actual cause of the CIS. That I would support 100%!
Fr legends and new cannon kind of ignores how the people who fought for the Rebel Alliance almost definitely fought for the CIS themselves if they were old enough, or their friends and family did if they weren’t
@@themediocremaster2388. Very true! I believe your right about that! I know there are some, I don’t remember the names but I do remember there were a few!
Heh, the positioning of those fwd momentum thrusters exhaust is pretty close to kneecapping any driver using them. Difficult to see Droid metal withstanding that kind of blast heat/thrust. :)
They'd also lend themselves very well for the other purpose of the Droid army - garrison duty. Patrolling, policing, keeping the peace... just like how police ride motorcycles.
Eh usually in recon you want to say unnoticed and report back locations so the probe droids they used were probably way better in the role, they see like something to do hit and run skirmishes or rear guard/ delaying actions
There is something I don't understand about the STAP It had some kind of nuclear reactor to propel the vehicle forward but it had to be recharged after only a few hours. If it had a reactor to propel it and gave up a lot of radiation, which would be fatal to organics, why would it need to be recharged? Couldn't the reactor power all of the various systems? Thrust, levitation and weapons
Depends what type of reaction it was and how much energy was needed to keep it aloft, accelerating, and firing. Even a sustained fusion requires more reactants to keep going, let alone some sort of fission or even a radioisotope generator is liable to go cold after that kind of power draw given how small the power plant must be on one of these.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel Does it really need refueling that often though Reactors for SSNs, SSBNs and Aircraft carriers can go 20 years without refueling and the reactor of the Voyager space probes have gone over 40 years with a much smaller reactor
@@dragonweyr44 True, but we have no sense of scale for how much power those cannons or engines that compact capable of pushing 400 mph would draw. We really don't know how much energy a repulsor system would take, because that's well outside of our capability whereas directed energy weapons and turbine engines are a bit more grounded. Subs and carriers have reactors that are smaller than a nuke plant, but still quite large. And both Voyagers had to power down more and more systems to try and conserve energy. A STAP isn't that large, so its reactor must be incredibly compact. The fact its engine release so much radiation reminds me of the SLAM concept, basically a nuclear-powered cruise missile that would drop smaller munitions while casting a radioactive wake behind itself and ultimately hitting a priority target with a large main warhead. Thankfully the US didn't actually complete that program. It theoretically could have remained flying for quite some time but again, that's only using power for flight, guidance, and weapon release and it was much larger than a STAP. Or, maybe, the reactor purely drives the engines and repulsor while the energy cells power the weapons. Even if it's primarily a recon platform, having no offensive capability would definitely call for a recharge.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel I really don't understand how repulsor lift technology works. For instance, Luke's land speeder on Tatooine, for example Even parked, and presumably, turned off, it still floats above the ground. Why? Why wouldn't a speeder, or other object for that matter, settle down on the ground when not in use?
It’s possible that they did if they could obtain any, as it fits their doctrine of hit-and-run attacks. They would have needed to add some radiation shielding (probably just welding on a metal plate) for longer term use.
Not likely. If it was too dangerous for organic pilots to pilot a STAP, then it wasn’t going to be used by rebel groups who were constantly short on manpower.
If the CIS Senate and a non-Sith Dooku took control of that droid army they would have been unstoppable. There need to be more fanon what if stories, and not just cliché ones about order 66
Oh yeah, I remember these things, but only because like two weeks ago I was looking up stuff about the Battle of Cato Neimodia during the Outer Rim Sieges, and they were used during the battle, until I did that I kind of forgot these things existed, so the almost completely irrelevant title is very opropriate.
Honestly, the STAP makes more sense when you stop thinking of it as a vehicle, and more as a mobile Blaster Cannon platform. Like, think of heavy weapons like the E-web, which require two clone-troopers to carry it into battle, as separate powersource, and functions as a stationary immobile turret. Take that, combine the power-generator and the gun/tripod into a single compact package, then make it float. All while still being barely larger than a person. You could station these inside buildings, inside the hallways of starships. Emplaced gun-turrets that can easily be repositioned or pushed forwards without needing a whole crew to drag the weapon around in pieces. Maybe add a durasteel plate to the front to serve as armour. Edit: Like a droidika, but with repulsorlift instead of rolling, so it can shoot while moving.
Radiation is survivable for short periods, and Jedi are exceptional in various ways. I just hope they used the Force to part the engine wash to either side of their bodies, because otherwise I have to assume plot-armour.
Why did the engines emit radioactivity?? The writers could've easily made them just emit insane amounts of heat, which would have the exact same result with only droids being really effective users. Like, imagine the engine exhaust running up to somthing around ~400°C, no human would be stupid enough to ride these. Meanwhile the feet (which are right behind the engines) which are metal on droids would have no problems. That'd be a much more comprehensive and engaging negative side effect than hand-waving it off with "radioactive advanced star wars magic".
@@Tyrone-v2r They have bad battle tactics. Even their armies were droids and clones. So unless the war reached your planet it was just something on the news. The sad part is the Republic's leaders were Jedi and officers with a lot of badges but no experience. The CSI had to try to lose
Seperatist vehicles and entire army to be frank was made by a child. Lucas probably asked kids what would be cool. The idea a robot has to peak out of a tank or even there being a need for a seperatist tank to be driven by a droid is beyond stupid. 😂
That speeder was so cool. If you played Lego Star Wars the complete saga, those things were fun to steer and wreak havoc with.
The STAP was so cool in Star Wars and I really liked them in both Episode 1 and TCW. They really fit the Trade Federation and CIS aesthetic as a whole.
Don't forget the Battlefront games.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Right, zooming around blasting people or back capping CPs will always be fun and enjoyable.
@@inductivegrunt94 Also the occasional ramming of said people.
@@michaelandreipalon359and the 2002 Clone Wars game
A reimagining of the STAP as a Droid with a droidica style shield... could have been pretty effective. Think about it.
Probably woulda needed a total overhaul though. Their already limited battery would be severely taxed by a shield generator, evidenced by how the titular Destroyers needed like twelve batteries and a built-in reactor. If the STAP was then given better batteries and the generator, it would likely become heavier and bulkier, reducing its speed... which was primarily its whole thing.
It's a wonder how Anakin was able to ride one of these things on Alaris Prime without falling off. Bear in mind he had to outrun the blast radius of Dooku's Force Harvester while also having to navigate a dense forest with the constant risk of hitting a tree while under fire from defense turrets and enemy STAPs.
The force guides us brah
Anakin is just built different.
To be fair, he did that using the Force and his training. I think I could do it, but since my luck and coordination is so bad I would have to actively try to fall off in order to manage it.
Space wizard
"Now this is podracing!"
The jet engines exhaust directly into the pilots crotch. 10/10 design.
Seems like a Pratt & Wittney design hahaha
the strange thing is the STAP could have been a great mobile anti infantry turret, as you said it has about the same damage output as a Destroyer droid, if you put a good quality shield Infront of the driver they could in a offensive action, fly in lockdown onto the ground and deal out suppressing fire then when the attack is ready to move rather then having to pack up the gun it can take off again and fly forward ahead of the advancing troops land and repeat, while in a defensive action the STAP could be used as a force multiplier a portable highspeed turret that when defending from multiple points of attack can change position rapidly depending on where they are needed most
So is No One gonna Talk about the Fact that the Thrusters Would Roast Off Your Legs at the knees?!?!
Make it a tad bigger and give it a metal shield in front in style of droideka snipers and you have a speedy little anti personel vehicle. These things are pretty cool
Most Fans : "STAPs are just speeders."
Geetsly's : "Hold my beer."
"Hold my beer" sounds like the last words of an organic STAP pilot..
Well last words before he got lethal amounts of radiation anyways
This will always be pretty iconic to the Battle of Naboo.
Remember Battle For Naboo when you were in the resistance against the TF occupation and got to fly a Nubian STAP
You could say that it was a STAPle of the CIS army.
Good one!
@@hungtheheroluu thanks
The CIS
Also is the organization with one of the best causes!
Government threw representation, something the Old Republic lost by this time period!
I’m not talking about the Mega Corporations or the Sith manipulation of it!
I’m talking about the actual cause of the CIS.
That I would support 100%!
Fr legends and new cannon kind of ignores how the people who fought for the Rebel Alliance almost definitely fought for the CIS themselves if they were old enough, or their friends and family did if they weren’t
@@themediocremaster2388. Very true!
I believe your right about that!
I know there are some, I don’t remember the names but I do remember there were a few!
Absolutely terrifying giving a standard B1 the power to mow down squads.
I love the small stab at the seguls in the beginning
Heh, the positioning of those fwd momentum thrusters exhaust is pretty close to kneecapping any driver using them. Difficult to see Droid metal withstanding that kind of blast heat/thrust. :)
They'd also lend themselves very well for the other purpose of the Droid army - garrison duty.
Patrolling, policing, keeping the peace... just like how police ride motorcycles.
Eh usually in recon you want to say unnoticed and report back locations so the probe droids they used were probably way better in the role, they see like something to do hit and run skirmishes or rear guard/ delaying actions
If you haven’t already can you do a breakdown on the Hailfire droid, and why we didn’t see any throughout the clone wars?
They already did. Its limited missile capability complete with a difficult reloading system during battle is one big flaw.
They really had to STAP making those
The STAPH was such a cool vehicle. A damn shame we didn't get to see much of it.
There is something I don't understand about the STAP
It had some kind of nuclear reactor to propel the vehicle forward but it had to be recharged after only a few hours.
If it had a reactor to propel it and gave up a lot of radiation, which would be fatal to organics, why would it need to be recharged? Couldn't the reactor power all of the various systems? Thrust, levitation and weapons
Depends what type of reaction it was and how much energy was needed to keep it aloft, accelerating, and firing. Even a sustained fusion requires more reactants to keep going, let alone some sort of fission or even a radioisotope generator is liable to go cold after that kind of power draw given how small the power plant must be on one of these.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel Does it really need refueling that often though
Reactors for SSNs, SSBNs and Aircraft carriers can go 20 years without refueling and the reactor of the Voyager space probes have gone over 40 years with a much smaller reactor
@@dragonweyr44 True, but we have no sense of scale for how much power those cannons or engines that compact capable of pushing 400 mph would draw. We really don't know how much energy a repulsor system would take, because that's well outside of our capability whereas directed energy weapons and turbine engines are a bit more grounded. Subs and carriers have reactors that are smaller than a nuke plant, but still quite large. And both Voyagers had to power down more and more systems to try and conserve energy. A STAP isn't that large, so its reactor must be incredibly compact.
The fact its engine release so much radiation reminds me of the SLAM concept, basically a nuclear-powered cruise missile that would drop smaller munitions while casting a radioactive wake behind itself and ultimately hitting a priority target with a large main warhead. Thankfully the US didn't actually complete that program. It theoretically could have remained flying for quite some time but again, that's only using power for flight, guidance, and weapon release and it was much larger than a STAP.
Or, maybe, the reactor purely drives the engines and repulsor while the energy cells power the weapons. Even if it's primarily a recon platform, having no offensive capability would definitely call for a recharge.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel I really don't understand how repulsor lift technology works.
For instance, Luke's land speeder on Tatooine, for example
Even parked, and presumably, turned off, it still floats above the ground. Why?
Why wouldn't a speeder, or other object for that matter, settle down on the ground when not in use?
AYO BIG Shoutout for having my comment at the end of the video.👍
If they sucked as much A$$ as they did in the original Battlefront 2 there'll be no questions from me chief 🗣️🗣️
I dunno I thought they were fun
Never ever ride a glorified superheated engine with a driver's seat.
No, I'm not talking about either the R-22 Spearhead or its RZ-1 A-Wing successor.
Anakin was indeed a master in some Senatorial quarters.
@@cjthebeesknees And how is that relevant to this topic?
@@michaelandreipalon359 It is so far from relevant but I said what I said.
The Senate is a staple and has NEVER become irrelevant.
I wonder if the Rebels also used the STAP.
It’s possible that they did if they could obtain any, as it fits their doctrine of hit-and-run attacks. They would have needed to add some radiation shielding (probably just welding on a metal plate) for longer term use.
Am betting only a select few, since 74-Zs and BARCs are far more effective and safer.
Not likely. If it was too dangerous for organic pilots to pilot a STAP, then it wasn’t going to be used by rebel groups who were constantly short on manpower.
Well, the engine exhaust to the crotch.
If the CIS Senate and a non-Sith Dooku took control of that droid army they would have been unstoppable. There need to be more fanon what if stories, and not just cliché ones about order 66
Because they were always getting stolen by Kenobi and Skywalker.
Oh yeah, I remember these things, but only because like two weeks ago I was looking up stuff about the Battle of Cato Neimodia during the Outer Rim Sieges, and they were used during the battle, until I did that I kind of forgot these things existed, so the almost completely irrelevant title is very opropriate.
The one Legends iteration of the incident with the fungus-high Obi-Wan?
@@michaelandreipalon359 The very same. Yes.
They just STAPed using them.
Honestly, the STAP makes more sense when you stop thinking of it as a vehicle, and more as a mobile Blaster Cannon platform.
Like, think of heavy weapons like the E-web, which require two clone-troopers to carry it into battle, as separate powersource, and functions as a stationary immobile turret.
Take that, combine the power-generator and the gun/tripod into a single compact package, then make it float.
All while still being barely larger than a person.
You could station these inside buildings, inside the hallways of starships.
Emplaced gun-turrets that can easily be repositioned or pushed forwards without needing a whole crew to drag the weapon around in pieces.
Maybe add a durasteel plate to the front to serve as armour.
Edit: Like a droidika, but with repulsorlift instead of rolling, so it can shoot while moving.
Hold on! Anakin and Obi-wan did ride the STAPs for a period of time after the duel with Ventress on Christopsis. So why they survived the radiation?
I believe the whole radiation thing isn’t Canon.
Radiation is survivable for short periods, and Jedi are exceptional in various ways. I just hope they used the Force to part the engine wash to either side of their bodies, because otherwise I have to assume plot-armour.
Look, I can get needing to spell out AT-AT, but just say stap.
Heh. STAPle.
Heh. 😏
Nothing is better than seeing Battlefront gameplay
7:19 name that droid?
It looks like some kind of droideka prototype.
i cant see these things without thinking of roberto from futurama
Thanks for the video
but how do the engines direct thrust without blasting th rider off?
Magnets. 🧲
Or melting a B1 beyond repair?
It's a fragile platform without a shield.
I don't think I have ever heard of a speeder with shields
@@ilpoomatili9549Would have offered more protection in combat situations.
@@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462 yes but you trade of speed and agility
Why did the engines emit radioactivity??
The writers could've easily made them just emit insane amounts of heat, which would have the exact same result with only droids being really effective users.
Like, imagine the engine exhaust running up to somthing around ~400°C, no human would be stupid enough to ride these. Meanwhile the feet (which are right behind the engines) which are metal on droids would have no problems.
That'd be a much more comprehensive and engaging negative side effect than hand-waving it off with "radioactive advanced star wars magic".
I guess you could say it was a STAPle of the droid army?
STAP making that joke
@@Seriouslybroreally2002 Roger Roger
Despite how large the clones wars were the star wars universe knew nothing of war
Huh?
@@Tyrone-v2r They have bad battle tactics. Even their armies were droids and clones. So unless the war reached your planet it was just something on the news. The sad part is the Republic's leaders were Jedi and officers with a lot of badges but no experience. The CSI had to try to lose
The STAP should be a droid
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Seperatist vehicles and entire army to be frank was made by a child. Lucas probably asked kids what would be cool. The idea a robot has to peak out of a tank or even there being a need for a seperatist tank to be driven by a droid is beyond stupid. 😂
Your Honour, not all CIS military assets were designed for exclusive droid use... but the man has a point.
Wouldn’t it be like having another person inside your brain for the tanks