In the StarCraft book, Liberty's crusade, Raynor was arguing with Sarah about they shouldn't trust Mengsk, shortly before he would betray her. Sara completely dismissed Raynor, because she's a psychic, you can't lie to her - "he believes everything he says" To which Raynor responds something along the lines of "Goddamnit Sara, he's a politican! Of course he believes what he says. You need to read between the lines" And I think this greatly describes Palpatine
the only one step even more genius than this is to pretend to be a producer of movies about past sith lords LOL "why do i feel the dark side around him? ... oh ya he makes money from making movies about sith lords as entertainment... it just goes with the territory lmao"
Honest lying..it’s all in the wording. It’s why they don’t exude cognitive dissonance. It’s like the monkey’s paw with a wish-it’s always looking for what was left out in the wording. Yet knowing something is simply a lie is easy in comparison to knowing the reason for the lie. The reasoning behind the lie is all that truly matters-the rest of the misdirecting hand actions, and wording is all smoke and mirrors to distract from motive.
People will gripe about episode 2 but one of my favorite niche scenes of all time is the near opening scene of half a dozen Jedi masters including the master of the order and the Jedi grandmaster and Sidious asking Yoda: do you think it will come to war? Yoda doesn’t know.. that was such a disrespectful checkmate on the Jedi..
Agreed. Also, Yoda's single eyebrow raise to that question always struck me. Like, Yoda knew Palpatine seemed to know more than he should and was surrounded by suspicious mystery, but despite Yoda's suspicion, he STILL failed to pierce Palpatine's veil and see the truth in front of him. Sidious played them all SOOOO well.
And it went on even further in the Shatterpoint novel. As I recall in memory (or lack thereof): Like the part where Yoda and Mace were talking and Palpatine had either not arrived yet or stepped out, and Yoda realized Mace held a bit of admiration for the Chancellor. "Admire him, do you?" Mace begrudgingly admitted it. Yoda being the understanding wise elder basically said "yes, I can see that you admire him for all that he has shown in both leadership and being in touch with the modern times, just make sure this doesn't cloud your sober judgement". Hinting he himself is kind of taken by the Chancellor. But the real kicker came with Mace's reply to that: _"It's just that Chancellor Palpatine has such insight in his leadership capabilities. I wonder what kind of Jedi he would make if he could touch the Force."_ Yoda still fixating on the younger Jedi master's fascination said "ah, but then another person to be Chancellor we would need, because hold office in the Republic, Jedi cannot" Soooooo close to the truth, yet still missing the mark!
@@GTA2SWcity That is interesting, although whoever wrote Yoda's dialogue could've written it a bit better (unless you were paraphrasing?). However, Jedi have served as Supreme Chancellor several times in history, so Yoda's comment confuses me. Was a new law passed in the century or so before the Prequels banning Jedi Chancellors? I agree that that conversation is fascinatingly close to the truth
@@JadusMoltriel I was paraphrasing to convey the main points. That is correct, _in the distant past_ from that point. After the Ruusan reformation, around a millennium prior, after the conclusion to that war which had ravaged the galaxy so bad that the Republic didn't exist as a practical matter, it was agreed that jedi could no longer hold office. It was the last time the jedi oder would make jedi warlord a recognized rank as master Hoth had been. Also master Skarch Vanuk had decided she would put restrictions on the teaching of Juyo, the seventh lightsaber form because of how many jedi became corrupted by bloodlust and fell to the dark side in their barbarism while utilizing it. Among other things.
@@GTA2SWcity Thank you. It's been awhile. I've read nearly all Star Wars material there is, but it can be hard to remember it all in my adult-hood, even as a woman on the Spectrum, lol. I appreciate the refresh on the history. :-)
this just proves what I've said before. the Jedi became too blind and too arrogant to their surroundings. because of that, their destruction was assured
Literally all they do is say "lets wait and see how the force directs us" which is patient and the opposite of arrogant. Arrogant is a fun new term that everyone loves to throw around after it started gaining popularity 10-15 years ago and it doesn't fit. The real reason he's so concealed? George didn't write one in.
The successes of our enemies are not our failures. Palpatine had a great understanding of Jedi and the power to hide himself from them. Thats not the Jedi's fault.
@@nerdock4747Can’t blame the Jedi thinking the Sith were gone base on the lore they kinda expected the Sith to be an army of them not two Sith in hiding in the shadows.
Not just their surroundings but arrogant of who gets to use the force and how. Arrogant of other ways beings use the force and the inevitability of something like the Sith (balance, daughter & son etc.) happening. So many ways they were arrogant really which led to their downfall.
The (excellent) Revenge of the Sith novelization by Matthew Stover likens Anakin's force-presence to a stormcloud, Obi-Wan's to a sunlit field, and Sidious' as an event horizon. His power is so massive it's like an ant not realizing he's standing on an elephant rather than the earth.
I recently read (well, listened to the audio book) of this and I remember that scene. I kept thinking what would Anakin had become if he had not lost on Mustafar. It would have been something akin to the Big Bang.
In the Darth Plagueis novel by James Luceno - When speaking to Shiv Palpatine ((Darth Sidious)) about his frustrations with the impositions and restrictions imposed on Shiv, by his father, Plagueis was shocked to see Palpatine's innate ability to mask his connection with the Dark Side drop, exposing his true nature. Plagueis, thought that Palpatine might literally be born of the Dark Side and his ability to mask his true nature was innate. Palpatine was BORN with the ability to conceal his presence in the force to others, unconsciously. Plagueis, as all Force Users do, did not believe in chance encounters, but that the Dark Side had willed the encounter. It was at this point that Plagueis pursued Palpatine and courted him to become his apprentice. Palpatine and as Darth Sidious too, was indiscernible to other force sensitives in the force. He even kept this cloak up as the Emperor, so none - other than a handful of close advisers and Vader knew of his true nature.
Exactly. I explained this to someone else, who thought Plagueis taught him the ability to conceal his Force Presence. Nope. Palpatine was born with the talent, and it's a very, very rare ability at that. Plagueis just nurtured it so Sidious reached mastery. The Luceno novel is possibly the best Star Wars novel of all time. Heir to the Empire trilogy is up there, along with Revenge of the Sith, the Bane Trilogy, and Outbound Flight, but Darth Plagueis might just be the best of them all.
@@JadusMoltriel Agreed - in my opinion, it is second to none. I have the audiobook read by Daniel Davis, it is outstanding. Next to the KOTOR Games and the Bane books and Canon movie novelisations, I consider them to be Required Reading/Playing for all SW Fans.
Yeah that was surprising just a bit.. thought he was in the "Don't admit him camp". Especially since Mace was the Master Anakin was usually most at odds with when they weren't on a battlefield
I thought the same a bit, but after hearing Mace's perspective, i cant blame Yoda for not being able to sense the sith lord. Sidious was an absolute master of deception and manipulation.. I feel bad for the Order. Yes they were a bit corrupt, and arrogant, but nor did they ever have bad intentions. (*cough cough, besides acolyte)
sigh... what if he disguised himself as a female yoda and slept with yoda? that would have been epic... yoda would've truly been had (no pun intended) LOL yoda at end of ROTS: "holy this shit is... had .. i have been"
The Jedi acceptance of corruption in the Senate always amazed me. During the Clone Wars, the Jedi KNEW of the excesses of the Senate, yet chose to do nothing about it. I remember the episode Journey to Temptation. Obi Wan makes a joke about Senator Orn Free Ta's corruption and greed, as if there was no other way. This acceptance was yet another nail in the Republic's coffin, and was almost the end of the Jedi.
No, he had a natural born talent for it, actually. It was one of the attributes about Palpatine that drew Plagueis to him in the first place. It's a VERY rare ability, and from what we currently know in the lore, cannot be fully trained/ taught if someone doesn't have the innate talent for it already.
@jojelectrix7927 Correct. Palpatine was exceptionally talented at masking his Force Presence, and combined with his extreme base strength in the Force, intense discipline, a midichlorian count higher than everyone in SW except Anakin, and his exceptional training under Plagueis, he was able to mask his ENTIRE Force Sensitivity and Presence from the ENTIRE Jedi High Council at once while within feet of all their presences. It's crazy how well and for how long he successfully managed this. He literally lived right amongst the Jedi for years without ever slipping up for a moment. Sidious holds a tier of power all of his own, other than Grandmaster Luke from EU and a full-potential Anakin.
@@JadusMoltriel Yeah. What really got me was, knowing from OT that Ian McDiarmid played Emperor Palpatine in ROTJ and that this Chancellor was him, when Mace said "I think it is time to inform the senate our ability to use the Force is diminished" I just shook head and was like "if only you *knew."* Yoda frowned and even said "only the dark lord of the Sith knows of our weakness, if informed the Senate is, multiply our adversaries will". It's funny because the Force seems to help with anti-intuitive leaps of logic, and yet they don't notice how they repeatedly come to this subject _in the presence of Palpatine_ or in things or dealings surrounding the Chancellor. I guess Kreia eas right: jedi tend to lean on the Force more than they realize where anyone else could use intuition and start putting the puzzle together by deductive reasoning.
The Darth Bane novels give a good reason why he was able to hide. If Zannah was able to invent an enchantment that hid herself from the Jedi as an apprentice, though it was flawed in that she had to constantly maintain focus. This weakness was exposed when Zannah was nearly discovered do to her finally finding the information that she was after in the archives. This is because this infiltration mission was a long one. This was a mission had 2 parts. Part 1 was to ensure the Jedi would have less information on the Sith and a harder time tracking them over the Rule Of Two era, it is likely that the Sith having some holocrons and the Jedi thinkin they had all of them was her doing, and the second part was to research the orbalisk parasite in hopes of removing it form her master. Zannah had manipulated Darth Bane into worrying about the parasite's side effects but she mainly feared that she would never be able to kill him if he was still wearing it. Over the years it stands to reason that the Sith would value remaining hidden and prefect this technique to not require a talisman or constant focus where any show of emotion or sudden excitement could break it. This magic Zanah invented is older than Yoda, slightly but still. This simply means that the Sith's ability to trick the Jedi has existed and been improved for almost a thousand years.
Using the respectability of convention and customs with history thousands of years long; the complete separation of the sith from their outer physical appearance and their release of their previous ideas of what a sith empire looked like; the jedi were also acosted on all sides ,below and above, by the dark side and it nearly blinded them completely to the curropted galactic senate and their place as universe police for a republic that should have responded to the CIS differently. Man, good video.
I really think The Acolyte should have been about Palpatine. It would've been so interesting to watch him from becoming just a nobleman's son to a senator.
I disagree. That's the one thing I didn't want from the Acolyte, and what I liked most about it. The Star Wars universe spans an entire galaxy, and the history of the Jedi Order spans a thousand generations. The franchise needs to move on from telling stories about the same three generations of the same two families.
@@coralreeves4276 Oh, sure. I won't argue that they couldn't, or shouldn't have done better. They definitely could have and should have. But I think involving young Sheev would have made it worse, not better.
@@Nimelennar Depends on who's writing it. Imo the title The Acolyte as a tv show would have gathered more interest if it was about Palpatine since the whole idea they have been pitching was exploring the hubris of the Jedi order and how the Sith managed to put the wool over their eyes. Since that was the direction they were heading for anyway, might as well have gone with Palpatine, it would have felt far less invasive of the original lore and would have managed to give them freedom to explore that part of the timeline and world. Palps is an interesting character study. I guarantee that had they gone with Palpatine and wrote in a GoT inspired (with an actual competent set of writers and direction) script to explore his journey into Sithdom, The Acolyte would have been SO much more successful.
Honestly, I think the Jedi relied too much on the Force. Kreia once hinted at that, saying, if you take the Force from a Jedi he is less able than any sentient in the galaxy. A detective using logic, say a SW Sherlock Holmes, might have easily found out Sidious.
I think it's implied that the Sith or the dark side or both had completely blinded the Jedi, this is implied a couple times in the prequels. Mace had a comment where he mentions they should consider informing the senate that their ability to use the force is diminished. Yoda then replies by saying that if they were to do this the strength and number of their adversaries would grow. I don't even think they were aware of this until the Attack of the Clones.
there's a cautionary tale in here about warfare and geopolitics overall. a tendency for generals is to keep fighting the last war rather than anticipate and adapt for the next conflict. or as bane put it, "victory has defeated you."
In different books, there were both sith and jedi who learned how to suppress their presence in the force to the point that they appeared to be just like the average person. That enabled them to hide from those who were force sensitive or disappear from the force when they were being tracked by their presence in the force.
I completely agree. Everything you said. We see how Palpatine cloaked himself when he was in the same room with practically entire Council and nothing happened. I completely agree. Palpatine was absolutely brilliant. May the Force be with you too😊
I feel like the old Jedi when there we’re watching this happen just said when he died: dude the sighs were there. And I feel like at a certain point in time the Jedi were blinded by there own light not the darkness
That's not how the Force works.There's no light side.There's only the Force and the Dark Side.Furthermore,The Darth Plagueis novel,Cloak of Deception, Labyrinth of Evil and ROTS novel all state that the Sith have cast a veil on the Force that clouded the mind of every force user exept those most engrained in the Dark Side.There can never be too much ''Light'' because "Light" in Star Wars vocabulary literally means what is ''Good'',by default you contradict yourself.
I bet it was like that feeling you get when you first meet someone but there's something intangible that is putting you off, you just can't put your finger on it.
Windu needs his own stand alone show. Criminally under explained character. If you didnt watch outside the movies and even the tv shows briefly touch on it.
Windu - Don't you think it suspicious that Palpatine could have such darkness within him, such a lust for power? Yoda- Well, a polititian he is. Windu - True.
That bit about the Sith's secret ceremony sits very well with me -- I've always thought the Sith did something to gradually cloud the Jedi's insight into The Force. On the other hand, I also thought it was the Sith's making such a mess of the Republic with their chicanery that clouded The Force, not an outright grand spell of doom. (Mind you, the chicanery and the spell needn't be mutually exclusive -- the one quite possibly reinforcing the other.)
He sensed something but couldn't put his finger on it. Sidious was incredibly powerful in the art of deception. Yoda was no exception. Mace was the most suspicious considering he spent the most time near the dark side.
As soon as I got this video notification I instantly clicked it because I been tryna figure this out for so long. Like how did not just any Jedi but the grandmaster, not sense that Palpatine was the Sith Lord they claimed they been searching for all those years. Like how??? 😂🤦🏽♂️
A powerful technique indeed. Reminds me of Kreias unique force ability that allows her to hide her presence from whomever she chose. Kreia also used a variation of this ability that enabled her to be seen but remain entirely unnoticed, to cloud the memory of others so they would forget her presence or even her existence.
Moral of the story; your enemies can be found anywhere. Don’t get too cocky and assume you’re so safe, that you don’t need to keep your guard up at all.
Ya know for an 800 yr old Jedi Grandmaster who is had many years of extensive training and wisdom, Yoda is kind of a dumbazz and a terrible leader for not sensing a Sith Lord despite being a master of the force
In all those 800 years Jedi have barely met a Sith let alone fight one of the two at any time. For all we know they were warrior monks used as peacekeepers at the behest of Senate. Never ever really reaching the state of being combat ready against a fully trained Sith. The fact they were so easily killed massacred in Order 66 tells how much even the masters at the time were not prepared.
I now think Ahsoka Tano's exit from the blind Jedi order was a masterstroke. The way in which the so called "Jedi masters'" were hopelessly outmatched by Palpatine's trickery speaks volumes of how ill prepared they truly were
Palpatine was so cocky during episode 3 and was waiting to get caught. He finally had to reveal himself to Anakin because he realized he would never be caught.
what if it's like: his disguise is so good, that even when he reveals himself to anakin anakin still doesn't believe him... and refuses to join him LOL "join me anakin" anakin: "but you are not a sith lord" "but i am" anakin: "nah... you? no way" "look at all these force tricks i can use" anakin: "but what about all the other non-sith things you did? you gotta be trolling me, ok bye" "omg wait dont leave" anakin: *ignores palp and flies away *movie ends
Honestly, I think he sensed something was off. I always think back on the opening scene in Attack of the Clones. While the Jedi were discussing political matters with Palpatine. And just a few moments after Padmé shows up to speak with them. Yoda gives this look towards Palpatine, which always seemed to me that Yoda never truly trusted him. I feel that this was the jumping point that gave them the idea to have Anakin spy on him. Besides the fact that Palpatine had been in office far too long.
Not true. The Jedi several times mention sending something wrong with Palpatine, perhaps the most prominent being Mace’s line “The dark side surrounds the chancellor.” They just didn’t know it was coming directly from him. They suspected his staff.
Yoda also sensed something was wrong but it was clouded so he decided to let it go. Then he went back and trained luie but also knew more than before through the force
As I recall, by the time of the third movie, the Jedi were aware that the chancellor's office was filled with the Dark Side, though they didn't realize that Palpatine was a Sith. After all, you don't NEED to be a Force user to affect the Force around you. As the Revenge of the Sith novelization noted, war itself fueled the Dark Side. And the not Jedi but kinda Jedi coded blind priest from Rogue One commented when the one guy went off to assasinate Galen Erso that "does he seem like a killer to you?" before explaining that when a person carries murderous intent, the Dark Side swirls around them.
Palpatine leaping towards the door in ROTS and Yoda blocking his path. "No longer Friends are we? Hmm?" "No more time wish you to spend with me?" "Running scared like a little Chicken-Sh*t you are Hmm?"
a lot of sith lords were corrupted and turned. according to this "void" where the force should have been, shows me that sidius was a psychopath. especially because of how amusing all of his deeds were and how calculated he was. anakin never received like actual pleasure and amusement in this actions.
Mace Windu being pro training Anakin seems like a retcon. Mace seemed highly conflicted. However I do believe he saw through Sidious early on even if he didn't realize exactly how bad the situation really was.
Ehh, all that maybe true but like others have said, Palpatine's greatest skill as a force wielder was in his suppression of it. The veteran jedi were constantly sensing fluctuations in the force in their search for more force inclined individuals etc. to take into their order. It's a greater testament to Palpatine's mastery that he could be around them for years and never ping anyone's radar. His supervillain level planning in politics etc. helped him to not be in situations where he'd have a genuine emotional outburst that might give him away.
Sidious studying all aspects of the force is the reason why he was able to mask his dark side energy. In other canon Sidious revealed to Darth Maul that he studied 7 disciplines of the force which again aided Sidious to hide his darkness. Sidious was the embodiment of a well rounded educated evil Mr. Rodgers.
The biggest knack in the Jedis role in the Republic was that the republic it originally joined was no longer the republic they served. The Republic had morped, changed and slowly began to fester. after the republic dark age and the battle of Ruusan Bane made sure it could be manipulated from the shadows, and the hidden sith corrupted it from the inside out as the republic continued to expand and bloat. the limited number of senate seats no longer fit to give voice to the countless BILLIONS each one now represented. This in turn lead to a rise in anti-republic sentiment which gave way to the sepratist cause (which, while itself was legitimate, was also hijacked by the sith). The Jedi failed to see any of this, sealed away on their temple on Coruscant, unable to truly feel what the outside world was like. They had no idea that the republic had become the oppressive force they once swore to guard it from. The outer colonies were left at the mercy of mega cops, the republic only used the outer rim worlds from their resources and exploited them, all while the jedi did nothing but pay lip serivce. When the crucial moment came, and rebellion began, the Jedi, still flawed by their own lack of understanding, stood on the republics side, not the side of those it oppressed.
Palpatine was the consummate populist and politician in one and he was able to magnify this with his abnorally deceptive force ability. The Jedi had become arrogant indeed but what shocked me in this post was to learn that the Jedi temple was built over a former Sith stronghold???!! And none of the Jedi knew this, or worse yet, they STILL thought this wasn’t a disastrous idea?
Idk. Windu did everything he could to reject Anakin, both in the movies and the Clone Wars. He was never supportive of Anakin, and rarely complimented him.
This, as much or more than anything else, is what drove Anakin to the Dark Side. Imagine... Hero of the Republic. The Greatest Jedi Warrior. Savior of Christophis, Naboo, etc... and now *ON* the Council... but not a Master. Sure... ordinary people don't know what that means. But even a Padawan would know... he got dissed. And that was the entire point the Council threw in Anakin's face. Slap. Take a seat young Skywalker. And then, right after that... the Council has a secret mission for you. They don't trust you. But would you commit High Treason against the Republic and be a spy?
The novelization was a well-written glimpse on the different views of the Jedi, Sith, and the war during that time. Obi-Wan admitted to Padme that the Clone War was just theater compared to what the Sith had planned for the past millennia. The war was never about the independence of a few disgruntled systems. It wasn't even about the tearing down of the Republic. It was about ruining the Jedi and paving the way for a Sith empire out of the ashes of a corrupt government.
The reason the Jedi can't see Darth Sidious may be the techniques he uses, but it may also be because they reject their own dark side to the point of ignoring it. If you've never seen or tasted chocolate in your life, when you eat chocolate cake, you can describe it as cake and you can taste the sugar in it, but you can't notice the chocolate. For you, it's one of the ingredients of that cake. The Jedi have been accustomed to the darkness of ordinary people for millennia, but they are no longer familiar with the darkness of the Sith. Since they closed themselves off to the dark side, they became alienated from the dark side of the force. That's why they couldn't distinguish the darkness hidden by Palpatine from the darkness of another politician. Contains spoilers from the book Labyrinth of Evil. In the book Labyrinth of Evil, Mace Windu and the other Jedi Masters passed by the vehicle used by Darth Sidious without seeing it. When the clone soldiers found the vehicle, they saw the fact that they couldn't see the vehicle infected by the dark side as a problem. There was another example in the book related to Quinlan Vos. When Quinlan Vos arrived at the final scene of the Attack of the Clones movie to meet Count Dooku, he still failed to notice the dark side in the environment. When the council members arrived there, they interpreted his failure to notice this as being infected with the dark side at that time. The only time Yoda noticed Darth Sidious was when he watched someone die. I think he didn't see the need to hide himself at that time, or the pleasure he got dulled his ability to hide.
In Legends (Disney sometimes takes characters from the old EU, so this may or may not become the new canon), the Jedi could sense the Dark Side somewhere around Palpatine. However, they viewed him as a valuable ally before the clone wars and during the clone wars they viewed him as a generic greedy corrupt politician, but not the Sith. They mentioned darkness surrounded him. However they all thought it was some guy working in the same building. I guess it's the Sci Fi equivalent of fidning someone who smells like shit and thinking they shook hands with someone who is covered in poop and ignoring a more obvious explanation I don't know if this will be canon or stay in legends only. I like this explanation since it is one way to explain why it wasn't sensed without nerfing Yoda. His force sensitivity is still accurate, he just couldn't connect the dots.
I always thought that the Force itself hid Palpatine from the Jedi. I mean, the Jedi had the ability to read peoples minds, one would think that at some point a Jedi would have liked to have known what was going on in the Chancellor of the Republic.
You are spot on. The Force shifted quickly and violently to the Dark Side as the Clone War broke out and got more aggressive. As Yoda correctly says at the end of Episode II when chastising Obi-Wan: Victory . . . Victory, you say The Shroud of the Dark Side has fallen. And just before the announcement of the Clone Army: " Blind we are if we could not see this . . . Yoda was aware that he couldn't see.
Real real reason is: plot armor haha. If Yoda sensed it, it would have been over and Vader would have never happened, and then Episode 4 would have never happened...
It was perfectly possible for the Sith to hide their presence among the Jedi who, by default, would believe that everyone is good until proven otherwise, it is a representation of threats to any democracy. The good ones will always be at a disadvantage from the start because of that and their restraint to use violence. That part doesn't bother me at all, the only thing about the prequels that I think is off is the fact that they discovered that there was a clone army secretly created for 10 years and they never knew who paid for it and Yoda and the Senate decided to use it anyway. It's like, "Oh, we've found a fleet of nuclear submarines apparently made for us and we don't know who paid for it, let's use it, what could go wrong?"
It's so tragic Palpatine only cared about conquest and never about actually governing. If conquering the Republic had been the means instead of the ends then he could have had great success in doing for the galaxy what he did for Naboo. That would have been a far greater victory over the Jedi and the Republic than order 66.
5:46 oh, all this time I thought Windu was opposed to Anakin’s training. Wasn’t he initially though? Wrong. The Jedi were not hubris in their failure to detect the Sith
I always thought yoda cottoned on or at least got a hint in the movie (I think attack of the clones) when palps said to padme "but I do, I do" as if he read padmes mind, and yoda turns and notices that (yoda does the same in rotj)
Palp doing a Darth Zana , except more intense in the bane trilogy Zana says I can do it but for a limited time 🕰️ Palp does it 24/7 in front of Yoda dam !
That was Sidious' strength: his ability to hide and spread his influence like a cancer. He managed to pull the entire plot under the noses of the Jedi Order with small, cunning and calculated manipulations, always playing the powerless victim. He only messed up when he revealed it to Anakin, and even then he succeeded in the end. This is why he's the Sith'Ari.
The Plagueis Novel makes reference to his innate ability to “become invisible”. As if the Force perceived Palpatine as nothingness/souless… Plagueis stated that it was one factor in choosing him. Being a politician just made him better at masking in public
Palpatine disguised his dark side energy in the most genius way. He was a politician.
Good point. Perhaps all politicians had dark side energy.
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In the StarCraft book, Liberty's crusade, Raynor was arguing with Sarah about they shouldn't trust Mengsk, shortly before he would betray her.
Sara completely dismissed Raynor, because she's a psychic, you can't lie to her - "he believes everything he says"
To which Raynor responds something along the lines of "Goddamnit Sara, he's a politican! Of course he believes what he says. You need to read between the lines"
And I think this greatly describes Palpatine
the only one step even more genius than this
is to pretend to be a producer of movies about past sith lords LOL
"why do i feel the dark side around him? ... oh ya he makes money from making movies about sith lords as entertainment... it just goes with the territory lmao"
Honest lying..it’s all in the wording. It’s why they don’t exude cognitive dissonance.
It’s like the monkey’s paw with a wish-it’s always looking for what was left out in the wording. Yet knowing something is simply a lie is easy in comparison to knowing the reason for the lie.
The reasoning behind the lie is all that truly matters-the rest of the misdirecting hand actions, and wording is all smoke and mirrors to distract from motive.
People will gripe about episode 2 but one of my favorite niche scenes of all time is the near opening scene of half a dozen Jedi masters including the master of the order and the Jedi grandmaster and Sidious asking Yoda: do you think it will come to war? Yoda doesn’t know.. that was such a disrespectful checkmate on the Jedi..
Agreed. Also, Yoda's single eyebrow raise to that question always struck me. Like, Yoda knew Palpatine seemed to know more than he should and was surrounded by suspicious mystery, but despite Yoda's suspicion, he STILL failed to pierce Palpatine's veil and see the truth in front of him. Sidious played them all SOOOO well.
And it went on even further in the Shatterpoint novel. As I recall in memory (or lack thereof):
Like the part where Yoda and Mace were talking and Palpatine had either not arrived yet or stepped out, and Yoda realized Mace held a bit of admiration for the Chancellor.
"Admire him, do you?"
Mace begrudgingly admitted it.
Yoda being the understanding wise elder basically said "yes, I can see that you admire him for all that he has shown in both leadership and being in touch with the modern times, just make sure this doesn't cloud your sober judgement". Hinting he himself is kind of taken by the Chancellor.
But the real kicker came with Mace's reply to that: _"It's just that Chancellor Palpatine has such insight in his leadership capabilities. I wonder what kind of Jedi he would make if he could touch the Force."_
Yoda still fixating on the younger Jedi master's fascination said "ah, but then another person to be Chancellor we would need, because hold office in the Republic, Jedi cannot"
Soooooo close to the truth, yet still missing the mark!
@@GTA2SWcity That is interesting, although whoever wrote Yoda's dialogue could've written it a bit better (unless you were paraphrasing?).
However, Jedi have served as Supreme Chancellor several times in history, so Yoda's comment confuses me. Was a new law passed in the century or so before the Prequels banning Jedi Chancellors?
I agree that that conversation is fascinatingly close to the truth
@@JadusMoltriel I was paraphrasing to convey the main points.
That is correct, _in the distant past_ from that point.
After the Ruusan reformation, around a millennium prior, after the conclusion to that war which had ravaged the galaxy so bad that the Republic didn't exist as a practical matter, it was agreed that jedi could no longer hold office.
It was the last time the jedi oder would make jedi warlord a recognized rank as master Hoth had been.
Also master Skarch Vanuk had decided she would put restrictions on the teaching of Juyo, the seventh lightsaber form because of how many jedi became corrupted by bloodlust and fell to the dark side in their barbarism while utilizing it.
Among other things.
@@GTA2SWcity Thank you. It's been awhile. I've read nearly all Star Wars material there is, but it can be hard to remember it all in my adult-hood, even as a woman on the Spectrum, lol. I appreciate the refresh on the history. :-)
Out of all Palpatine's power, his ability to totally conceal himself in the force was his most insidious. Pun intended.
Mauls meth head cousin was in Insidious
Pun accepted.
Pun accepted
The Phantom Menace
Yes. Yoda and the Jedi order was disappointing in this respect; it was much too late when the truth of Sheeve Palpatine was unveiled. Much too late.
this just proves what I've said before. the Jedi became too blind and too arrogant to their surroundings. because of that, their destruction was assured
They got complacent. And those who still questioned the return of the Sith were deemed paranoid.
Literally all they do is say "lets wait and see how the force directs us" which is patient and the opposite of arrogant. Arrogant is a fun new term that everyone loves to throw around after it started gaining popularity 10-15 years ago and it doesn't fit. The real reason he's so concealed? George didn't write one in.
The successes of our enemies are not our failures. Palpatine had a great understanding of Jedi and the power to hide himself from them. Thats not the Jedi's fault.
@@nerdock4747Can’t blame the Jedi thinking the Sith were gone base on the lore they kinda expected the Sith to be an army of them not two Sith in hiding in the shadows.
Not just their surroundings but arrogant of who gets to use the force and how. Arrogant of other ways beings use the force and the inevitability of something like the Sith (balance, daughter & son etc.) happening. So many ways they were arrogant really which led to their downfall.
“Failed I have. Into exile I must go”. Yoda realized.
"I must leave the country"
The (excellent) Revenge of the Sith novelization by Matthew Stover likens Anakin's force-presence to a stormcloud, Obi-Wan's to a sunlit field, and Sidious' as an event horizon. His power is so massive it's like an ant not realizing he's standing on an elephant rather than the earth.
I recently read (well, listened to the audio book) of this and I remember that scene. I kept thinking what would Anakin had become if he had not lost on Mustafar. It would have been something akin to the Big Bang.
I think that happened with Padme shortly before.
In the Darth Plagueis novel by James Luceno - When speaking to Shiv Palpatine ((Darth Sidious)) about his frustrations with the impositions and restrictions imposed on Shiv, by his father, Plagueis was shocked to see Palpatine's innate ability to mask his connection with the Dark Side drop, exposing his true nature. Plagueis, thought that Palpatine might literally be born of the Dark Side and his ability to mask his true nature was innate. Palpatine was BORN with the ability to conceal his presence in the force to others, unconsciously. Plagueis, as all Force Users do, did not believe in chance encounters, but that the Dark Side had willed the encounter. It was at this point that Plagueis pursued Palpatine and courted him to become his apprentice. Palpatine and as Darth Sidious too, was indiscernible to other force sensitives in the force. He even kept this cloak up as the Emperor, so none - other than a handful of close advisers and Vader knew of his true nature.
Exactly. I explained this to someone else, who thought Plagueis taught him the ability to conceal his Force Presence. Nope. Palpatine was born with the talent, and it's a very, very rare ability at that. Plagueis just nurtured it so Sidious reached mastery.
The Luceno novel is possibly the best Star Wars novel of all time. Heir to the Empire trilogy is up there, along with Revenge of the Sith, the Bane Trilogy, and Outbound Flight, but Darth Plagueis might just be the best of them all.
@@JadusMoltriel Agreed - in my opinion, it is second to none. I have the audiobook read by Daniel Davis, it is outstanding. Next to the KOTOR Games and the Bane books and Canon movie novelisations, I consider them to be Required Reading/Playing for all SW Fans.
Really cool that Windu was the one to push Anakin into the Jedi Order despite being initially the most reluctant to let him in
Yeah that was surprising just a bit.. thought he was in the "Don't admit him camp". Especially since Mace was the Master Anakin was usually most at odds with when they weren't on a battlefield
he saw shatter points all over anakin that’s why he was for it and also why you get the sense he never fully trusted him
Yoda's arrogance blinds him.
😂😂
I thought the same a bit, but after hearing Mace's perspective, i cant blame Yoda for not being able to sense the sith lord. Sidious was an absolute master of deception and manipulation..
I feel bad for the Order. Yes they were a bit corrupt, and arrogant, but nor did they ever have bad intentions. (*cough cough, besides acolyte)
Or poor writing and plot armour
Indeed
"Keep your friend close but enemies closer"
Sith literally embrace the Arts of War
sigh... what if he disguised himself as a female yoda and slept with yoda?
that would have been epic... yoda would've truly been had (no pun intended) LOL
yoda at end of ROTS: "holy this shit is... had .. i have been"
The Jedi acceptance of corruption in the Senate always amazed me. During the Clone Wars, the Jedi KNEW of the excesses of the Senate, yet chose to do nothing about it. I remember the episode Journey to Temptation. Obi Wan makes a joke about Senator Orn Free Ta's corruption and greed, as if there was no other way. This acceptance was yet another nail in the Republic's coffin, and was almost the end of the Jedi.
The other option was for the Jedi to remove democratically elected officials and take over the galaxy...
@@Ainttrippin Why does there have to be one extreme or the other? Are you saying there is no middle ground?
@@BlueDrakkwhat middle ground would you suggest?
@@JosephWilliams-bs5cv electing no corrupt politicians
@@BlueDrakk No corrupt politicians? Those don’t exist
I'm pretty sure Palpatine learned the ability called Buried Presence to conceal his signature Force alignment from Darth Plagueis.
Wow that's why even Qui Gon or Anakin never sensed them and especially in the Episode 1 when all of the Jedi High Council are with Palpatine
No, he had a natural born talent for it, actually. It was one of the attributes about Palpatine that drew Plagueis to him in the first place. It's a VERY rare ability, and from what we currently know in the lore, cannot be fully trained/ taught if someone doesn't have the innate talent for it already.
@jojelectrix7927 Correct. Palpatine was exceptionally talented at masking his Force Presence, and combined with his extreme base strength in the Force, intense discipline, a midichlorian count higher than everyone in SW except Anakin, and his exceptional training under Plagueis, he was able to mask his ENTIRE Force Sensitivity and Presence from the ENTIRE Jedi High Council at once while within feet of all their presences.
It's crazy how well and for how long he successfully managed this. He literally lived right amongst the Jedi for years without ever slipping up for a moment. Sidious holds a tier of power all of his own, other than Grandmaster Luke from EU and a full-potential Anakin.
@@JadusMoltriel Yeah. What really got me was, knowing from OT that Ian McDiarmid played Emperor Palpatine in ROTJ and that this Chancellor was him, when Mace said "I think it is time to inform the senate our ability to use the Force is diminished" I just shook head and was like "if only you *knew."*
Yoda frowned and even said "only the dark lord of the Sith knows of our weakness, if informed the Senate is, multiply our adversaries will". It's funny because the Force seems to help with anti-intuitive leaps of logic, and yet they don't notice how they repeatedly come to this subject _in the presence of Palpatine_ or in things or dealings surrounding the Chancellor.
I guess Kreia eas right: jedi tend to lean on the Force more than they realize where anyone else could use intuition and start putting the puzzle together by deductive reasoning.
@@GTA2SWcity Kreia was one of the wisest and most intuitive characters in all of Star Wars.
Yoda: Sense the dark side in Palpatine's office, I do.
Mace: Must have been just his Sith artifact collection.
Yoda: Legit, that seems.
It is interesting that Yoda was so stuck in the old ways that he could not sense what was really going down
Old master may have most experience, but they can also be blindsided by new/ unknown technique that they never saw before
Tbf he was almost a thousand years old, it’s not surprising he was stuck in his ways
The Darth Bane novels give a good reason why he was able to hide. If Zannah was able to invent an enchantment that hid herself from the Jedi as an apprentice, though it was flawed in that she had to constantly maintain focus. This weakness was exposed when Zannah was nearly discovered do to her finally finding the information that she was after in the archives. This is because this infiltration mission was a long one. This was a mission had 2 parts. Part 1 was to ensure the Jedi would have less information on the Sith and a harder time tracking them over the Rule Of Two era, it is likely that the Sith having some holocrons and the Jedi thinkin they had all of them was her doing, and the second part was to research the orbalisk parasite in hopes of removing it form her master. Zannah had manipulated Darth Bane into worrying about the parasite's side effects but she mainly feared that she would never be able to kill him if he was still wearing it. Over the years it stands to reason that the Sith would value remaining hidden and prefect this technique to not require a talisman or constant focus where any show of emotion or sudden excitement could break it. This magic Zanah invented is older than Yoda, slightly but still. This simply means that the Sith's ability to trick the Jedi has existed and been improved for almost a thousand years.
This is one of the most impressive feats of Sidious I think, to be near Yoda and the other Jedi so often, and have then feel.. nothing.
Using the respectability of convention and customs with history thousands of years long; the complete separation of the sith from their outer physical appearance and their release of their previous ideas of what a sith empire looked like; the jedi were also acosted on all sides ,below and above, by the dark side and it nearly blinded them completely to the curropted galactic senate and their place as universe police for a republic that should have responded to the CIS differently.
Man, good video.
I really think The Acolyte should have been about Palpatine. It would've been so interesting to watch him from becoming just a nobleman's son to a senator.
that is a perfect suggestion actually 👍
I disagree. That's the one thing I didn't want from the Acolyte, and what I liked most about it.
The Star Wars universe spans an entire galaxy, and the history of the Jedi Order spans a thousand generations. The franchise needs to move on from telling stories about the same three generations of the same two families.
@@Nimelennar Then they should have written a better story with characters that were compelling enough to compete with the originals.
@@coralreeves4276 Oh, sure. I won't argue that they couldn't, or shouldn't have done better. They definitely could have and should have.
But I think involving young Sheev would have made it worse, not better.
@@Nimelennar Depends on who's writing it. Imo the title The Acolyte as a tv show would have gathered more interest if it was about Palpatine since the whole idea they have been pitching was exploring the hubris of the Jedi order and how the Sith managed to put the wool over their eyes. Since that was the direction they were heading for anyway, might as well have gone with Palpatine, it would have felt far less invasive of the original lore and would have managed to give them freedom to explore that part of the timeline and world. Palps is an interesting character study. I guarantee that had they gone with Palpatine and wrote in a GoT inspired (with an actual competent set of writers and direction) script to explore his journey into Sithdom, The Acolyte would have been SO much more successful.
Honestly, I think the Jedi relied too much on the Force. Kreia once hinted at that, saying, if you take the Force from a Jedi he is less able than any sentient in the galaxy. A detective using logic, say a SW Sherlock Holmes, might have easily found out Sidious.
I think it's implied that the Sith or the dark side or both had completely blinded the Jedi, this is implied a couple times in the prequels. Mace had a comment where he mentions they should consider informing the senate that their ability to use the force is diminished. Yoda then replies by saying that if they were to do this the strength and number of their adversaries would grow. I don't even think they were aware of this until the Attack of the Clones.
Oh no, the thumbnail pic and the pose at 0:06…he looks like he’s beggin’ Palpatine for a biscuit!
A little bit yeah haha, he is holding his staff but it blends with his robes
there's a cautionary tale in here about warfare and geopolitics overall. a tendency for generals is to keep fighting the last war rather than anticipate and adapt for the next conflict. or as bane put it, "victory has defeated you."
In different books, there were both sith and jedi who learned how to suppress their presence in the force to the point that they appeared to be just like the average person. That enabled them to hide from those who were force sensitive or disappear from the force when they were being tracked by their presence in the force.
I completely agree. Everything you said. We see how Palpatine cloaked himself when he was in the same room with practically entire Council and nothing happened. I completely agree. Palpatine was absolutely brilliant. May the Force be with you too😊
Palpating was a politician.i bet Yoda felt the dark side in every Corusant politician.
I feel like the old Jedi when there we’re watching this happen just said when he died: dude the sighs were there. And I feel like at a certain point in time the Jedi were blinded by there own light not the darkness
That's not how the Force works.There's no light side.There's only the Force and the Dark Side.Furthermore,The Darth Plagueis novel,Cloak of Deception, Labyrinth of Evil and ROTS novel all state that the Sith have cast a veil on the Force that clouded the mind of every force user exept those most engrained in the Dark Side.There can never be too much ''Light'' because "Light" in Star Wars vocabulary literally means what is ''Good'',by default you contradict yourself.
@@Force_user57Wrong.
Because the dark side has blinded their vision my friend.
I bet it was like that feeling you get when you first meet someone but there's something intangible that is putting you off, you just can't put your finger on it.
My head canon said that what Yoda sensed was Palpatine’s lust for power and he shrugged it off as “meh, politicians”…
And now as we know. Mace said he is alive. I knew he didn’t die. He’s a Master Jedi and could have forced jumped to safety.
Keep your friends close but your enemies closser
Windu needs his own stand alone show. Criminally under explained character. If you didnt watch outside the movies and even the tv shows briefly touch on it.
Palpatine was rocking some potent Axe body spray.
OUTRAGEOUS THIS IS
Fair, it is not!
I would love to see complete story about Adas the first Sith’Ari. ( of course if there is enough resources )
Windu - Don't you think it suspicious that Palpatine could have such darkness within him, such a lust for power?
Yoda- Well, a polititian he is.
Windu - True.
That bit about the Sith's secret ceremony sits very well with me -- I've always thought the Sith did something to gradually cloud the Jedi's insight into The Force. On the other hand, I also thought it was the Sith's making such a mess of the Republic with their chicanery that clouded The Force, not an outright grand spell of doom. (Mind you, the chicanery and the spell needn't be mutually exclusive -- the one quite possibly reinforcing the other.)
Thank you for another awesome video!
He sensed something but couldn't put his finger on it. Sidious was incredibly powerful in the art of deception. Yoda was no exception. Mace was the most suspicious considering he spent the most time near the dark side.
As soon as I got this video notification I instantly clicked it because I been tryna figure this out for so long. Like how did not just any Jedi but the grandmaster, not sense that Palpatine was the Sith Lord they claimed they been searching for all those years. Like how??? 😂🤦🏽♂️
A powerful technique indeed. Reminds me of Kreias unique force ability that allows her to hide her presence from whomever she chose. Kreia also used a variation of this ability that enabled her to be seen but remain entirely unnoticed, to cloud the memory of others so they would forget her presence or even her existence.
Moral of the story; your enemies can be found anywhere. Don’t get too cocky and assume you’re so safe, that you don’t need to keep your guard up at all.
Ya know for an 800 yr old Jedi Grandmaster who is had many years of extensive training and wisdom, Yoda is kind of a dumbazz and a terrible leader for not sensing a Sith Lord despite being a master of the force
Arrogance.
Do you not know how powerful sidious was?
In all those 800 years Jedi have barely met a Sith let alone fight one of the two at any time. For all we know they were warrior monks used as peacekeepers at the behest of Senate. Never ever really reaching the state of being combat ready against a fully trained Sith. The fact they were so easily killed massacred in Order 66 tells how much even the masters at the time were not prepared.
I now think Ahsoka Tano's exit from the blind Jedi order was a masterstroke. The way in which the so called "Jedi masters'" were hopelessly outmatched by Palpatine's trickery speaks volumes of how ill prepared they truly were
Now, things make alot more sense. Thank you TSW !
Awesome video! Thanks
"Ah, hard to see, the Dark Side is."
-a certain wise Jedi Master, "The Phantom Menace"
Palpatine was so cocky during episode 3 and was waiting to get caught. He finally had to reveal himself to Anakin because he realized he would never be caught.
what if it's like: his disguise is so good, that even when he reveals himself to anakin
anakin still doesn't believe him... and refuses to join him LOL
"join me anakin"
anakin: "but you are not a sith lord"
"but i am"
anakin: "nah... you? no way"
"look at all these force tricks i can use"
anakin: "but what about all the other non-sith things you did? you gotta be trolling me, ok bye"
"omg wait dont leave"
anakin: *ignores palp and flies away
*movie ends
Rarely? He never did
Honestly, I think he sensed something was off. I always think back on the opening scene in Attack of the Clones. While the Jedi were discussing political matters with Palpatine. And just a few moments after Padmé shows up to speak with them. Yoda gives this look towards Palpatine, which always seemed to me that Yoda never truly trusted him. I feel that this was the jumping point that gave them the idea to have Anakin spy on him. Besides the fact that Palpatine had been in office far too long.
I believe he felt something was off in him, but of course he didn't think a Sith was right in front of him...that Jedi arrogance😐
Also in clone wars he gives palpatine a look whenever he’s talking to him
Not true. The Jedi several times mention sending something wrong with Palpatine, perhaps the most prominent being Mace’s line “The dark side surrounds the chancellor.”
They just didn’t know it was coming directly from him. They suspected his staff.
Yoda also sensed something was wrong but it was clouded so he decided to let it go. Then he went back and trained luie but also knew more than before through the force
Master Yoda. You survived ....
I cannot get over just how amazing of a villain Palpatine truly is.
Yoda didn’t know what was going to happen even after he got a vision of order 66 at the temple.
As I recall, by the time of the third movie, the Jedi were aware that the chancellor's office was filled with the Dark Side, though they didn't realize that Palpatine was a Sith. After all, you don't NEED to be a Force user to affect the Force around you. As the Revenge of the Sith novelization noted, war itself fueled the Dark Side. And the not Jedi but kinda Jedi coded blind priest from Rogue One commented when the one guy went off to assasinate Galen Erso that "does he seem like a killer to you?" before explaining that when a person carries murderous intent, the Dark Side swirls around them.
Excellent content
"Mistake I have made. Screw it, aww...."
At least Yoda sensed when the robots received Order 66.
Robot? Ayo, that's cold 😭😭😭
You mean clones?
At that point they lost their free will, thus effectively becoming robots
Palpatine leaping towards the door in ROTS and Yoda blocking his path. "No longer Friends are we? Hmm?" "No more time wish you to spend with me?" "Running scared like a little Chicken-Sh*t you are Hmm?"
Sometimes incompetence is just incompetence.
🔥🔥 another great video from SW
His arrogance literally blinded yoda
I always felt that Mace sensed it at times but didn’t commit to his intuition
a lot of sith lords were corrupted and turned. according to this "void" where the force should have been, shows me that sidius was a psychopath. especially because of how amusing all of his deeds were and how calculated he was.
anakin never received like actual pleasure and amusement in this actions.
Mace Windu being pro training Anakin seems like a retcon. Mace seemed highly conflicted.
However I do believe he saw through Sidious early on even if he didn't realize exactly how bad the situation really was.
Ehh, all that maybe true but like others have said, Palpatine's greatest skill as a force wielder was in his suppression of it. The veteran jedi were constantly sensing fluctuations in the force in their search for more force inclined individuals etc. to take into their order. It's a greater testament to Palpatine's mastery that he could be around them for years and never ping anyone's radar. His supervillain level planning in politics etc. helped him to not be in situations where he'd have a genuine emotional outburst that might give him away.
Sidious studying all aspects of the force is the reason why he was able to mask his dark side energy. In other canon Sidious revealed to Darth Maul that he studied 7 disciplines of the force which again aided Sidious to hide his darkness. Sidious was the embodiment of a well rounded educated evil Mr. Rodgers.
Because he felt like every other politician in the Republic Senate. Like picking one snake out of a nest.
Nice, thx!
The biggest knack in the Jedis role in the Republic was that the republic it originally joined was no longer the republic they served. The Republic had morped, changed and slowly began to fester. after the republic dark age and the battle of Ruusan Bane made sure it could be manipulated from the shadows, and the hidden sith corrupted it from the inside out as the republic continued to expand and bloat. the limited number of senate seats no longer fit to give voice to the countless BILLIONS each one now represented. This in turn lead to a rise in anti-republic sentiment which gave way to the sepratist cause (which, while itself was legitimate, was also hijacked by the sith).
The Jedi failed to see any of this, sealed away on their temple on Coruscant, unable to truly feel what the outside world was like. They had no idea that the republic had become the oppressive force they once swore to guard it from. The outer colonies were left at the mercy of mega cops, the republic only used the outer rim worlds from their resources and exploited them, all while the jedi did nothing but pay lip serivce.
When the crucial moment came, and rebellion began, the Jedi, still flawed by their own lack of understanding, stood on the republics side, not the side of those it oppressed.
Palpatine's plot armor is strong.
Palpatine was the consummate populist and politician in one and he was able to magnify this with his abnorally deceptive force ability. The Jedi had become arrogant indeed but what shocked me in this post was to learn that the Jedi temple was built over a former Sith stronghold???!! And none of the Jedi knew this, or worse yet, they STILL thought this wasn’t a disastrous idea?
I think Yoda did sense it,he just didn't give a damn lol
Idk. Windu did everything he could to reject Anakin, both in the movies and the Clone Wars. He was never supportive of Anakin, and rarely complimented him.
This, as much or more than anything else, is what drove Anakin to the Dark Side.
Imagine... Hero of the Republic. The Greatest Jedi Warrior. Savior of Christophis, Naboo, etc... and now *ON* the Council... but not a Master. Sure... ordinary people don't know what that means. But even a Padawan would know... he got dissed. And that was the entire point the Council threw in Anakin's face. Slap. Take a seat young Skywalker.
And then, right after that... the Council has a secret mission for you. They don't trust you. But would you commit High Treason against the Republic and be a spy?
It really sounds like a retcon
Love your channel keep up the amazing work
I'll give you the answer:
He is a Politician.
Are you still planning on doing a show with Star Wars theory?
That would be awesome
He had the ability to completely cloak himself. Learned it from his master.
He already had the ability before he met him. He just couldn't control it when angry until his master helped him control it more
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i would also argue that he just saw him as evil and assumed it was because his position of power and because he looked at politicians with disgust
Excluding palpatines abilities, the jedi temple shouldn’t have built on top of a sith shrine, that was pure arrogance and stupidity.
I feel like there was that one time where Yoda sussed him out in attack of the clones once
The Jedi were too sure of themselves. Proud. Haughty. This is why I loved it when the Sith won 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Great now I want to listen to the plagus book again 😊
And yet Sidious shocks himself THREE TIMES! 🤦🏼♂️
“tHe cL0n3 WaRs Cl0uDs Th3 MiNd”
The novelization was a well-written glimpse on the different views of the Jedi, Sith, and the war during that time. Obi-Wan admitted to Padme that the Clone War was just theater compared to what the Sith had planned for the past millennia. The war was never about the independence of a few disgruntled systems. It wasn't even about the tearing down of the Republic. It was about ruining the Jedi and paving the way for a Sith empire out of the ashes of a corrupt government.
The reason the Jedi can't see Darth Sidious may be the techniques he uses, but it may also be because they reject their own dark side to the point of ignoring it. If you've never seen or tasted chocolate in your life, when you eat chocolate cake, you can describe it as cake and you can taste the sugar in it, but you can't notice the chocolate. For you, it's one of the ingredients of that cake. The Jedi have been accustomed to the darkness of ordinary people for millennia, but they are no longer familiar with the darkness of the Sith. Since they closed themselves off to the dark side, they became alienated from the dark side of the force. That's why they couldn't distinguish the darkness hidden by Palpatine from the darkness of another politician.
Contains spoilers from the book Labyrinth of Evil.
In the book Labyrinth of Evil, Mace Windu and the other Jedi Masters passed by the vehicle used by Darth Sidious without seeing it. When the clone soldiers found the vehicle, they saw the fact that they couldn't see the vehicle infected by the dark side as a problem. There was another example in the book related to Quinlan Vos. When Quinlan Vos arrived at the final scene of the Attack of the Clones movie to meet Count Dooku, he still failed to notice the dark side in the environment. When the council members arrived there, they interpreted his failure to notice this as being infected with the dark side at that time. The only time Yoda noticed Darth Sidious was when he watched someone die. I think he didn't see the need to hide himself at that time, or the pleasure he got dulled his ability to hide.
Man I wish they would make a plagueis and sidious movie/show.
In Legends (Disney sometimes takes characters from the old EU, so this may or may not become the new canon), the Jedi could sense the Dark Side somewhere around Palpatine. However, they viewed him as a valuable ally before the clone wars and during the clone wars they viewed him as a generic greedy corrupt politician, but not the Sith. They mentioned darkness surrounded him. However they all thought it was some guy working in the same building. I guess it's the Sci Fi equivalent of fidning someone who smells like shit and thinking they shook hands with someone who is covered in poop and ignoring a more obvious explanation I don't know if this will be canon or stay in legends only. I like this explanation since it is one way to explain why it wasn't sensed without nerfing Yoda. His force sensitivity is still accurate, he just couldn't connect the dots.
I always thought that the Force itself hid Palpatine from the Jedi. I mean, the Jedi had the ability to read peoples minds, one would think that at some point a Jedi would have liked to have known what was going on in the Chancellor of the Republic.
You are spot on.
The Force shifted quickly and violently to the Dark Side as the Clone War broke out and got more aggressive.
As Yoda correctly says at the end of Episode II when chastising Obi-Wan:
Victory . . . Victory, you
say
The Shroud of the Dark
Side has fallen.
And just before the announcement of the Clone Army:
" Blind we are if we could not see this . . .
Yoda was aware that he couldn't see.
Real real reason is: plot armor haha. If Yoda sensed it, it would have been over and Vader would have never happened, and then Episode 4 would have never happened...
It was perfectly possible for the Sith to hide their presence among the Jedi who, by default, would believe that everyone is good until proven otherwise, it is a representation of threats to any democracy. The good ones will always be at a disadvantage from the start because of that and their restraint to use violence. That part doesn't bother me at all, the only thing about the prequels that I think is off is the fact that they discovered that there was a clone army secretly created for 10 years and they never knew who paid for it and Yoda and the Senate decided to use it anyway. It's like, "Oh, we've found a fleet of nuclear submarines apparently made for us and we don't know who paid for it, let's use it, what could go wrong?"
It's so tragic Palpatine only cared about conquest and never about actually governing. If conquering the Republic had been the means instead of the ends then he could have had great success in doing for the galaxy what he did for Naboo. That would have been a far greater victory over the Jedi and the Republic than order 66.
5:46 oh, all this time I thought Windu was opposed to Anakin’s training. Wasn’t he initially though?
Wrong. The Jedi were not hubris in their failure to detect the Sith
Is this counting or not counting Acolyte? It's fine to just not consider it canon, right?
I always thought yoda cottoned on or at least got a hint in the movie (I think attack of the clones) when palps said to padme "but I do, I do" as if he read padmes mind, and yoda turns and notices that (yoda does the same in rotj)
Your arrogance blinds you master yoda
Palp doing a Darth Zana , except more intense in the bane trilogy Zana says I can do it but for a limited time 🕰️ Palp does it 24/7 in front of Yoda dam !
That was Sidious' strength: his ability to hide and spread his influence like a cancer. He managed to pull the entire plot under the noses of the Jedi Order with small, cunning and calculated manipulations, always playing the powerless victim. He only messed up when he revealed it to Anakin, and even then he succeeded in the end. This is why he's the Sith'Ari.
Galactic Governments and Mystic Space Monks don't mix well together.
The Plagueis Novel makes reference to his innate ability to “become invisible”. As if the Force perceived Palpatine as nothingness/souless… Plagueis stated that it was one factor in choosing him.
Being a politician just made him better at masking in public
Where did you get the sources about the void in the young palpatine?