Great video. One small correction (a very common error on almost all the armor-plate vids). "Spall" is the metal flaking off the BACK of the armor. "Splatter" is the bullet fragments from the front of the armor. The 'spall protection' works on both. But, spall is caused by the velocity/kinetic energy being transferred *through* the solid armor causing a cone-shaped piece flaking off the back. (Think of a bank window that has been shot with a small caliber, there is a cone-shaped piece broken off the back...that is spall. On their web, the steel L3+ is $90, and the L4 CERAMIC is 149!!! Decisions, decisions!
First off great video, loved it. Second beware ordering from RTS. I ordered and paid for two sets of equipment from them. I was only sent 1 set, RTS swore I was sent 2, I had security cam videos showing that the 2 UPS drivers (one driver in training) only had one small box and I accepted from them one small box, RTS still stated I had received 2. I called RTS the moment I opened the box and only saw one set. Long story short, I got no where with RTS even with the videos Ishared with them, they held strong that they had sent two. Thank goodness my Credit Card had a clause to help with issues like this. They took the videos and my statements and notes from my calls to RTS. They found RTS to be at fault and refunded my money. This may have been a one off event with RTS but wanted to let you know.
Kinda looks like that coating is on there more for corrosion protection than spall mitigation, spartan armor has the same thickness for that reason and they make you pay extra for a thicker coating meant to contain spalling.
I ordered some RTS Tactical Level 4 and their website says IN STOCK, but if you scroll down further it says DUE TO HIGH DEMAND THIS PRODUCT IS A 60 DAY LEAD-TIME....so I got my money back(kind of deceitful) and went with *Caliber Armor AR550 Multi-Curve Steel Body Armor with Bullet Liner Spall Coat Level III+ it was here in 5 DAYS* not 60+ DAYS....Caliber Armor is out of Kentucky USA
Recently got some Shellback NIJ level 4 composite ceramic plates and a banshee elite carrier bc green tips are readily available. More comfortable than I had thought. Hope I never have to find out tho
A while back I purchased a plate carrier and level III+ multi curve plates with the extra build up spall protection on them from AR500 Armored Republic. I wish I would have done more research on body armor beforehand. I plan on looking into it more and possibly buying different plates such as ceramic.
Botach has cheap level 4 plates. Typically cheaper than steel and will actually stop the bullet, not just deflect it. Even when shot on an angle th-cam.com/video/An6aM8zL-U8/w-d-xo.html
@@taddhoward9975 yes they are people need to understand that they work well for rifle rounds if you put enough layers of kevlar infront of it and behind
The first couple shots with the AK looked liked a lot of bullet fragments splashing out the top and sides. Not sure if I would trust the coating on this plate that is supposed to prevent that. Great video KB. God bless you all
Would make sense since typical ak ammo has a bimetal jacket, i.e. the jacket is mostly steel and likely to spall against more steel. There's less of it around now but I would image a true steel core like the old soviet m43 or chinese steel core would be even worse, same for m855, it looked like the m855 spalled a lot too
The coating on the steel plate in the video is not a build up coating for bullet frag protection. It is a base coating for protecting the plate from things like dirt and water.
I think it’s a good idea to pick up a pair with the side plates although they are heavy that doesn’t matter in a vehicle you can get some real value out of these in a car driving situation
Great vid reminds me of mrgunsngear 😂 I personally think the best use of steel plates is for training, like when you're doing competitions and such not something to "go into battle with" per se. Never understood why people buy non ballistic training plates when steel is just a bit more and will actually stop a round albeit not ideally
Ive had 458 break ears off steel and snap chains. The only round that ever fd up my steels was 204 Ruger. Left nasty divots. But the Spall or exploding round does Alot of damage. I have mud under mine and on my second set of legs. The steel ones still get fd up.
We know steel armor won't be penetrated, we need to see how the spall fragmentation works on the side of the plates to be safe and effective. please surround the plate with a boxes and pork chops or steak attached to it this would really demonstrate safety.
It would IF it wraps all the way around the edges. But at that point just buy some ceramic armor. It's the same price as this steel junk. Here is all you need to know about steel th-cam.com/video/An6aM8zL-U8/w-d-xo.html
None talks about how this stuff stops almost all of the energy transfer. I see level 4 ceramic plates with up to 50mm of back face deformation. Imagine someone punching 2 inches deep into your torso...
Because you MUST add the spall coatings, 2 is best, or you’re taking shrapnel to the jugular or femoral arteries. It’s better than nothing tho. It can also be quite heavy for the threat level.
Nobody should buy steel for use as body armor. If you are needing body armor, uhmdpe (polyethylene) with or without a ceramic strike face is the only thing I’m aware of on the market that actually captures the projectile.
Wrong that plate stopped everything he through at it and if you epoxy enough layers of kevlar to the plate and make it as thick as a level 4 ceramics tahh dahh you have a very good piece of projectile resistance
@@ChevTecGroup ceramics are great dude and neither of what you said is true steel plates are literally supposed to have level three a soft in front and the video you shared isn't realistic it's just a bare back plate with no coating or soft panel infront that is misleading due to the fact that nobody just wears a plain steel plate .
@@whiplash5026 the video I shared is an ar500 plate with their extra coating. Kevlar overlay would only work if it wraps around the edges of the steel.
@@ChevTecGroup not true at all I've had friends in Montana do the same test with the plate in a carrier with a soft panel on top and the round stays in and yeah they shot it at an angle like this. I don't want to argue I'm just saying the video is misleading because nobody just tapes a bear plate to their stomach. Plates of any kind are not truely going to make a difference lol as soon as I see my enemy with a carrier on I'm going for neck ,head and knees. One in the spine is divine but those knees work just fine.
Why though ceramic isn't that great and with propper knowledge kevlar fabric that's readily available and epoxy you can make a level 3++ steel plate tougher than a ceramic plate .. with enough layers epoxed to the plate front and back a rifle round basically gets destroyed on impact and doesn't explode in your face or on your neck
@kotaboy32 do you or someone you know have experience with the 45raptor?? I’ve been a big 460s&w fan and hunter for yrs now and the thought of a 460 in a rifle I got excited and was shocked at how much energy it picks up in a 20” barrel vs my 10” BFR pistol I think this cal will catch on at some point especially for people who hunt in states with straight wall calibers this gives you a lot to work with 460 in a pistol will blow a 4in exit wound with the 200gr ftx I can’t imagine out of a rifle
Great video. One small correction (a very common error on almost all the armor-plate vids). "Spall" is the metal flaking off the BACK of the armor. "Splatter" is the bullet fragments from the front of the armor. The 'spall protection' works on both. But, spall is caused by the velocity/kinetic energy being transferred *through* the solid armor causing a cone-shaped piece flaking off the back. (Think of a bank window that has been shot with a small caliber, there is a cone-shaped piece broken off the back...that is spall.
On their web, the steel L3+ is $90, and the L4 CERAMIC is 149!!! Decisions, decisions!
Great explanation of the terms everyone gets wrong. FYI the botach lvl4 ceramic plates are 90 bucks each.
@@ChevTecGroup I wish you would have provided a link, though!
@@rev-mikemckay9750 here you go bud. I got a couple with 10% off for a memorial day sale. botach.com/battle-steel-level-4-armor-plates/
@@ChevTecGroup That's for the 10x12, I need 11x14, $180
@@rev-mikemckay9750 and here is another reason to avoid steel. th-cam.com/video/An6aM8zL-U8/w-d-xo.html
First off great video, loved it. Second beware ordering from RTS. I ordered and paid for two sets of equipment from them. I was only sent 1 set, RTS swore I was sent 2, I had security cam videos showing that the 2 UPS drivers (one driver in training) only had one small box and I accepted from them one small box, RTS still stated I had received 2. I called RTS the moment I opened the box and only saw one set. Long story short, I got no where with RTS even with the videos Ishared with them, they held strong that they had sent two. Thank goodness my Credit Card had a clause to help with issues like this. They took the videos and my statements and notes from my calls to RTS. They found RTS to be at fault and refunded my money. This may have been a one off event with RTS but wanted to let you know.
Kinda looks like that coating is on there more for corrosion protection than spall mitigation, spartan armor has the same thickness for that reason and they make you pay extra for a thicker coating meant to contain spalling.
Outstanding! Finally a plate that literally ROCKS esp with what was being thrown at it. SWEET!👍🤠
Thank you for taking your time to share, precious and important information.👍
I ordered some RTS Tactical Level 4 and their website says IN STOCK, but if you scroll down further it says DUE TO HIGH DEMAND THIS PRODUCT IS A 60 DAY LEAD-TIME....so I got my money back(kind of deceitful) and went with *Caliber Armor AR550 Multi-Curve Steel Body Armor with Bullet Liner Spall Coat Level III+ it was here in 5 DAYS* not 60+ DAYS....Caliber Armor is out of Kentucky USA
Return it and buy ceramic for the same price. th-cam.com/video/An6aM8zL-U8/w-d-xo.html
I enjoy watching your videos
Recently got some Shellback NIJ level 4 composite ceramic plates and a banshee elite carrier bc green tips are readily available. More comfortable than I had thought. Hope I never have to find out tho
Bought these a few weeks ago but paid full price. Don’t mind the weight much. I’ll bug in and protect the fort till the end before I bug out.
I love that 458 socom upper
Kotaboy32, you are a hoot!!! Watching you send rounds down range is fun and informative!!!!
A while back I purchased a plate carrier and level III+ multi curve plates with the extra build up spall protection on them from AR500 Armored Republic. I wish I would have done more research on body armor beforehand. I plan on looking into it more and possibly buying different plates such as ceramic.
Botach has cheap level 4 plates. Typically cheaper than steel and will actually stop the bullet, not just deflect it. Even when shot on an angle th-cam.com/video/An6aM8zL-U8/w-d-xo.html
It’s going through the spalling protection, hitting the steel and filleting the coating off of the steel
Always fun shooting steel and testing armor
Cant wait to see you shoot the banshee 45 with that Rare Breed Trigger installed.
Good to see you back out there man!
Folks that say you don't need body armor are ones that can't afford body armor. I got my plates from BOTACH. Battle STEEL >:0
Steel plates are not body armor.
@@taddhoward9975 yes they are people need to understand that they work well for rifle rounds if you put enough layers of kevlar infront of it and behind
@@taddhoward9975 James Yeager would disagree with you.
Battle steel ceramic plates are great for the price. Basically an ESAPI. Steel plates aren't armor. th-cam.com/video/An6aM8zL-U8/w-d-xo.html
@@dyrinn45 th-cam.com/video/An6aM8zL-U8/w-d-xo.html steel plates aren't for body armor...
Love the ending...agree!!!! (for those men and who do not support our Constitution)
Thank you my friend
Thank you again.
Excellent I have some. Im confident.
I just bought a pair of these from a local dealer where I live.👍
I love these kinds of videos!!! Great content brother!!!
The first couple shots with the AK looked liked a lot of bullet fragments splashing out the top and sides. Not sure if I would trust the coating on this plate that is supposed to prevent that. Great video KB. God bless you all
Would make sense since typical ak ammo has a bimetal jacket, i.e. the jacket is mostly steel and likely to spall against more steel. There's less of it around now but I would image a true steel core like the old soviet m43 or chinese steel core would be even worse, same for m855, it looked like the m855 spalled a lot too
Don't trust any steel plates th-cam.com/video/An6aM8zL-U8/w-d-xo.html
The coating on the steel plate in the video is not a build up coating for bullet frag protection. It is a base coating for protecting the plate from things like dirt and water.
Those must be the standard coating because the build up coat set is almost 9lbs!
The plate featured in this video is a lot thinner than the plates you and Mike(MrGnG) tested too.
@@ArgosySpecOps must not have the build up coat?
I think it’s a good idea to pick up a pair with the side plates although they are heavy that doesn’t matter in a vehicle you can get some real value out of these in a car driving situation
Great vid reminds me of mrgunsngear 😂 I personally think the best use of steel plates is for training, like when you're doing competitions and such not something to "go into battle with" per se. Never understood why people buy non ballistic training plates when steel is just a bit more and will actually stop a round albeit not ideally
Ive had 458 break ears off steel and snap chains. The only round that ever fd up my steels was 204 Ruger. Left nasty divots. But the Spall or exploding round does Alot of damage. I have mud under mine and on my second set of legs. The steel ones still get fd up.
Dude that Banshee is badass 🤤
That intro was funny!!! I love watching body armor getting destroyed for some weird reason. LOL
Hey kotaboy. Keep up your awesome videos your a great new frend.
Thank you.
Hell yeah fun day at the range for sure brother
Myth busting KB32 style, love it. As always, great video, very informative. 👍🇺🇸
We know steel armor won't be penetrated, we need to see how the spall fragmentation works on the side of the plates to be safe and effective. please surround the plate with a boxes and pork chops or steak attached to it this would really demonstrate safety.
You can see the bullet fragments that shot up and hit the tire leaving marks so yes that would definitely hurt
Shame i already have hard armor and soft srmor. If not id buy more like this. Kick ass plates
Have you tried M193 55grn from an 18-20" barrel? The velocity bump usually gives steel a harder time than M855 62grn.
It will go right through ;)
@@BuffRANGE Thats why I'm using Shot Stop GT2 plates, 😉
@@jfor0948 But those won't reliably handle M80 Ball :D
God bless America
Would like to see the plate hit with 10 rounds of M855 and see if it hold. Awesome video.
That’s a tuff plate even though it separated
There are also spall bag to catch spall.
Also, I am curious if kevlar(3a) over steel plates will work to catch spall.
It would IF it wraps all the way around the edges. But at that point just buy some ceramic armor. It's the same price as this steel junk. Here is all you need to know about steel th-cam.com/video/An6aM8zL-U8/w-d-xo.html
None talks about how this stuff stops almost all of the energy transfer. I see level 4 ceramic plates with up to 50mm of back face deformation. Imagine someone punching 2 inches deep into your torso...
Yup Nothing beats metal plates in that area or department.
Could you confirm your coupon code please? KB32 didn’t work.
And that's how you clean the dinner plate
I went all out on Spartan. No regerts
Haha! I see what you did there 😉
Howdy KB😀
nice. but ill take my RMA #1155s even tho they are about a 1lb heavier
Have you tried out BAO Armor? The plate is the 1155 NIJ Level IV
That's an RMA plate rebrand. 1155 is good to go.
First to comment love the vids kb32 keep it up
Sweet
I need to see the 6arc against some armor
Curious how it would stand up to 30-06 AP round.
Send some 54R at it
Being at the range shooting brings out the kid in all of us. He said "ruh-roh!" Hahaha
Why does AR500 catch so much heat? They seem to be well made carriers
Because you MUST add the spall coatings, 2 is best, or you’re taking shrapnel to the jugular or femoral arteries. It’s better than nothing tho. It can also be quite heavy for the threat level.
@@AFreeThinkingDawg09 Ar500 offers Spaulding on plates & Lvl4 Ceramic plates
@@Ufos4dahoes and it still isnt great. th-cam.com/video/An6aM8zL-U8/w-d-xo.html
Ceramic is cheap too
Very destructive aren't you🪖✝️🇺🇲
I'm sticking with my AR 500 plates , that didn't look impressive
Arent those ar600 and not ar500 ? Pro tip always gorilla duct tape your plates so it hols the anti spal coating together.
Real Pro-tip. Buy ceramic plates. th-cam.com/video/An6aM8zL-U8/w-d-xo.html
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Nobody should buy steel for use as body armor. If you are needing body armor, uhmdpe (polyethylene) with or without a ceramic strike face is the only thing I’m aware of on the market that actually captures the projectile.
Wrong that plate stopped everything he through at it and if you epoxy enough layers of kevlar to the plate and make it as thick as a level 4 ceramics tahh dahh you have a very good piece of projectile resistance
@@whiplash5026 that will weigh twice what ceramic does and still not stock rounds at an angle th-cam.com/video/An6aM8zL-U8/w-d-xo.html
@@ChevTecGroup ceramics are great dude and neither of what you said is true steel plates are literally supposed to have level three a soft in front and the video you shared isn't realistic it's just a bare back plate with no coating or soft panel infront that is misleading due to the fact that nobody just wears a plain steel plate .
@@whiplash5026 the video I shared is an ar500 plate with their extra coating. Kevlar overlay would only work if it wraps around the edges of the steel.
@@ChevTecGroup not true at all I've had friends in Montana do the same test with the plate in a carrier with a soft panel on top and the round stays in and yeah they shot it at an angle like this. I don't want to argue I'm just saying the video is misleading because nobody just tapes a bear plate to their stomach. Plates of any kind are not truely going to make a difference lol as soon as I see my enemy with a carrier on I'm going for neck ,head and knees. One in the spine is divine but those knees work just fine.
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Just buy level IV and be done with it.
Why though ceramic isn't that great and with propper knowledge kevlar fabric that's readily available and epoxy you can make a level 3++ steel plate tougher than a ceramic plate .. with enough layers epoxed to the plate front and back a rifle round basically gets destroyed on impact and doesn't explode in your face or on your neck
Shiiiit 458 socom damn it autocorrect anyways be a real man get ya some 45raptor!!!
@kotaboy32 do you or someone you know have experience with the 45raptor?? I’ve been a big 460s&w fan and hunter for yrs now and the thought of a 460 in a rifle I got excited and was shocked at how much energy it picks up in a 20” barrel vs my 10” BFR pistol I think this cal will catch on at some point especially for people who hunt in states with straight wall calibers this gives you a lot to work with 460 in a pistol will blow a 4in exit wound with the 200gr ftx I can’t imagine out of a rifle
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Great Video Thanks .
Wrong channel buddy. Keep comments like that out of here. Its irrelevant.