@@withoutfurtheradoforever there are other channels who have done this. It blasts right through it. Construction of the bullet itself does matter though
@@withoutfurtheradoforever the problem is the neck of the casing is Angled too steep to reliably feed in a semi auto platform. So it is usually only bolt actions that see that chambering.
They took a steel pistol target, glued a pillow to it, and screwed what appears to be maybe a cheap Amazon bungee sling to the bottom. I mean, I'm glad it worked-ish. But between pretty crappy customer service, and a general distrust in their quality control, I'd say that's a hard pass. But good video none the less!
@@boldie24 Emailed about some issues and after monthly emails for 7 months I still had no response. And then after finally being able to talk to them on Instagram..when I pointed out the issue with failing to return emails...they also stopped returning IG messages. They're just a super crappy company.
That's pretty cool... I wonder if m855 out of the longer barrel would've blown through it as well?? Either way great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
M193 is better at penetrating steel than M855. Velocity is primarily what defeats steel. The penetrator core in M855 is a very soft mild steel, designed to not break up as much as lead when hitting light cover like foliage or wood. That’s why it’s called LAP not AP
@@Super-Kuper correct. More intended for getting through concealment. Concrete, car doors. Etc. I do believe it was originally created to punch through an enemy's helmet at 300 yards.
I saw a review on that 45 grain stuff and the guy said absolutely no for self defense and ok for varmits. However after watching what that light weight round does one has to consider that round in their tactical toolbox.
That was pretty cool seeing those two .45 bullets bouncing back. Wouldn't want anything that size gettin past my armor no matter how slow its goin. If it got to ya and was still parallel to the ground it's gonna hurt. I'm curious to see how much different .45acp and that bigger(cased) "45 magnum" type round rate against each other. What do they call it anyway? Was it .45 super?
Could you actually do some ballistics gel testing on frag? Surround a level 3+ Caliber Armor steel plate with their build up coating, and see how deep the frag goes into the gel, if it escapes the coating.
@@Megames2012 just saw, a video by a guy who did frag testing on a dummy head. Bones and all. Don't even argue with me. It wasn't a back and forth, it was a sit and listen. Frag from steel HURTS. It will break your jaw. It will eviscerate your jugular. Don't wear steel armor. But steel ARM armor like this is fine. Did you not notice that even in Australia back in the day they made sure to make a necklace of Armor? They knew spalling was a thing from wood spalling. Thank you for coming to my GUN based TALK .
So we're are going to watch a video about a shaped piece of tempered steel with handles, and truck bed liner sprayed on it... Cool..... If you see this coming at you, aim 2 moa lower and poke holes at the femoral and call it a day...
Why didn't they put a curve to the surface? Even the smallest curve would help and make it stronger, as well as more ergonomical. It's a neat idea that I might get behind if they'd take it a bit more seriously. The spall coating is silly, the shape doesn't make much sense. It's literally just a sized up target with a handle.
It would be cool to see somebody make one with a convex shape that can safely deflect bullets or absorb the energy without them splattering off the edge of the shield and hitting the holder or their team mates. There's gotta be at least a few companies that are working on something like that. Or maybe they've tried it and abandoned it already. Still seems like it could be workable with the right enginerding done to the edges of it.
@@Mrgunsngear I can see how you'd ask that. It's a $80 IDPA with a grip and knee pad. Almost $400 is dumb when it won't stop rifle rounds. I'm saying I wouldn't buy it. They had it close, for $150-200 I'd have probably been interested
Don't think i'd ever use a ballistic shield, or would ever want to be in a position where I'd have to rely on one...I still liked to see it get shot and what it'd stop tho lol.
@@chaimafaghet7343 Idk man, I can slip my vest on in seconds...and I'd like to have my hands free to actually be able to manipulate my weapon and lights properly. If I have time to prep, i'm grabbing my 4" AR, not a pistol I could see it possibly being useful in that situation for some people..not me though..also a ballistic shield isn't going to always be over your vital points so that's a huge factor as well..usually ballistic shields are used in conjunction with body armor.
@@Please_Consume_Irresponsibly So when you get in a gun fight you would rather take them full on then have a shield in front of you? Your arms are going to be the first to take hits as they will be in front of your carrier. Carriers are nice but when bullets fly I would rather be safe behind a shield. Real gun fights are not like John whick where he kills 80 and takes one hit to the chest and his vest stops it. Chances are you will take hits and it will be in your arms. Now if they do get hit, manipulating your gun will be quite difficult. A poly shield is where its at. I have both and the poly is setup far better and weights far less. Stops rifle rounds as well. That added to your kit is where its at.
@@thisissparta8884 good luck effectively manipulating a rifle and a shield in the combat situation you just described without getting pinned down though. I prefer the ability to shoot and scoot before I’m pinned down then shot because I thought my shield will save me. Exactly, it’s not John wick, and a ballistic shield isn’t going to be your saving grace, especially if you have no one behind you providing covering fire so you can move up together. Which is how ballistic shields are most effectively used.. Without support you’re a cumbersome, slow, target with poor weapon manipulation and lack the ability to return fire as accurately and effectively than if you had both hands free and a rifle. It’s just too niche to be an effective piece of gear unless you’re storming buildings with a team supporting you, it’s not really that useful for a singular person or small family around the house. You’d be much more combat effective returning fire than trying to hide behind the shield. I still thinks it’s pretty cool and has its place, but I think that place is in a squad role in which you are provided cover so you and another small team can close the gap between the threat. Just my 2 cents.
Sorry, but these ballistic shields give their owners/bearers a false sense of security. If I was in a gun fight with someone carrying a shield, I would automatically aim for the legs. The average individual’s bottom half usually is longer than the top half making it a better target choice anyways.
Pass. Their customer service is a joke. Poly shields are better and do stop rifle rounds unlike their false claims. Their setup is primitive as shit as well.
Mr G&G that plate failed.. TWICE and is being called RTS Tactical All new Mini Shield LvL IIIa by RTS. Now you come along and call it Special Threat? And you are able to stab two holes in it and yet still call it the only "BUDGET OPTION FOR AMERICAN CONSUMERS"?!?!?! You know as we do there is no way to know what someone is shooting at you. So I'm a bit disappointed that you are trying to approve this plate based on budget friendly and not you testing if it will stop all the rounds they claimed. It fail yet you seem to be trying to give it a pass so that RST can sell us UNSAFE?
This is hilarious. It looks like an IDPA target with some padded straps on it.
Lol it does!
Also those bolts to hold the straps look like 4 pretty decent size weak points (I would assume)
One of these tests, I'd like to see what s 22-250 does to armor vs. 5.56/223.
It's not retarded if it works, and if it resists bullets well enough as a target...
@@withoutfurtheradoforever there are other channels who have done this. It blasts right through it. Construction of the bullet itself does matter though
@@withoutfurtheradoforever the problem is the neck of the casing is Angled too steep to reliably feed in a semi auto platform. So it is usually only bolt actions that see that chambering.
They took a steel pistol target, glued a pillow to it, and screwed what appears to be maybe a cheap Amazon bungee sling to the bottom. I mean, I'm glad it worked-ish. But between pretty crappy customer service, and a general distrust in their quality control, I'd say that's a hard pass. But good video none the less!
C’mon man😅
Can you elaborate on your experience with customer service? I ask as mine has been good.
@@boldie24 Emailed about some issues and after monthly emails for 7 months I still had no response. And then after finally being able to talk to them on Instagram..when I pointed out the issue with failing to return emails...they also stopped returning IG messages. They're just a super crappy company.
@@RTTGunsGear Like I said, my experience has been different but I also picked up the phone and worked with them vs. email and social media..
Crappy customer service is right! Shield is a joke as well. Also they are liars.
Always professional, and honest.
thanks dudley brown
Yeah nothing shows honesty like conveniently not testing the most common round (m193/55grain)
Love all of the bulletproof testing as of late. This shield was cool to see! Do more shields if you can.
Excellent review. Mellow and easy going as usual.
The most mellow and easy going individual is Ivan from Kit Badger.
@@warrenharrison9490 Need to check into that.
Thank you
Mrgunsngear went gangsta there for a second, "Let's see what it do."
Thanks, about what I'd expect. Much appreciated.
He said “what it do” 😂
Very cool armor shield. Thanks for showing it.
You bet
Ar500 companies etc. should get out of the business of making body armor and get into the business of making shields like this.
That's pretty cool... I wonder if m855 out of the longer barrel would've blown through it as well?? Either way great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
unlikely. M193 through a 20'' likely would though
M193 is better at penetrating steel than M855. Velocity is primarily what defeats steel. The penetrator core in M855 is a very soft mild steel, designed to not break up as much as lead when hitting light cover like foliage or wood. That’s why it’s called LAP not AP
@@Super-Kuper correct. More intended for getting through concealment. Concrete, car doors. Etc. I do believe it was originally created to punch through an enemy's helmet at 300 yards.
I saw a review on that 45 grain stuff and the guy said absolutely no for self defense and ok for varmits. However after watching what that light weight round does one has to consider that round in their tactical toolbox.
Next time there’s a spalling issue you should wrap a cardboard hood around the top and side just to get an idea. Keep up the good work
I didn't even care about the steel bro, you have some badass guns. That's what I was focused on
Would love to see this same test on the new Ballistic Armor AR500 shield. The Hardcore Defense says its rated for M855 and M193 at 3100 fps.
Great option. Thank you. I thought you were just shooting a steel target on thumbnail.
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That was pretty cool seeing those two .45 bullets bouncing back. Wouldn't want anything that size gettin past my armor no matter how slow its goin. If it got to ya and was still parallel to the ground it's gonna hurt.
I'm curious to see how much different .45acp and that bigger(cased) "45 magnum" type round rate against each other. What do they call it anyway? Was it .45 super?
I like...I didn't hear or see a weight indication from you, or their site...??
It can withstand buckshot and shotgun slugs too.
excellent review
45 gr not common but is a flaw. Would make sense to line that back pad with a layer of 7.62x51 stopping Kevlar as added protection
Can you chrono that 45gr stuff out of the 18” barrel? Just curious how much that’s cooking
So they took a ar500 silhouette Target and put a handle on it?
"you call throwing dynamite around a martial art?"
"hey, as long as it works"
will this shield be useful to protect civilian in case of mortar attack ?
Do you think spray in bed liner would help as far as the coating gos ?
Could you actually do some ballistics gel testing on frag? Surround a level 3+ Caliber Armor steel plate with their build up coating, and see how deep the frag goes into the gel, if it escapes the coating.
TH-cam your own answers. People are so dense
@@joecentral-o9984 Nobody has done a ballistics gel test on frag.
@@Megames2012 just saw, a video by a guy who did frag testing on a dummy head. Bones and all. Don't even argue with me. It wasn't a back and forth, it was a sit and listen.
Frag from steel HURTS. It will break your jaw. It will eviscerate your jugular. Don't wear steel armor. But steel ARM armor like this is fine.
Did you not notice that even in Australia back in the day they made sure to make a necklace of Armor? They knew spalling was a thing from wood spalling. Thank you for coming to my GUN based TALK .
Nice
Excellent testing sir
Would M193 from a 20 inch barrel crack it? That would be real M193, most civilian XM193 is usually well under 2900.
possible for sure
The small shield is $4oo. The one tested is $55o and the large is $7oo.
Is you 0 key ok?
@@tmbxd3469 Al Gore doesn't like doll hair amounts in the comments.
Ouch.
Yeah the small is 11 lbs medium is 16 the large is 23
I mean it is a cool idea, i wonder how much cheaper you could make one.
Glock kung fu or (sig kung fu) and krav maga jitsu = "glock kung maga jitsu" classes start next week.
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The frag shot downward will slice the bones of your feet in half
possible i suppose
What about at a 30 degree angle? How would it affect penetration?
Why not an ar500 silhouette plate as a shield?
Does that 45 gr stuff go through ceramic or composite armor like it did that steel?
Second test I've seen this shield fail on.
it didn't fail FWIW
I aint even gon say nun but one day when y'all ready tho
What primary arms optic were you running on your m249 for this test??
1x prism
So we're are going to watch a video about a shaped piece of tempered steel with handles, and truck bed liner sprayed on it... Cool.....
If you see this coming at you, aim 2 moa lower and poke holes at the femoral and call it a day...
fair enough
Just make it round and put a big star on it
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I was concerned you'd damage your truck with that shield. Glad all is well. Thanks for the vid but I'll pass on the shield.
Lol what does your garage look like with all this stuff 😂
this went in the trash after the video
Why didn't they put a curve to the surface? Even the smallest curve would help and make it stronger, as well as more ergonomical. It's a neat idea that I might get behind if they'd take it a bit more seriously. The spall coating is silly, the shape doesn't make much sense. It's literally just a sized up target with a handle.
It would be cool to see somebody make one with a convex shape that can safely deflect bullets or absorb the energy without them splattering off the edge of the shield and hitting the holder or their team mates.
There's gotta be at least a few companies that are working on something like that. Or maybe they've tried it and abandoned it already.
Still seems like it could be workable with the right enginerding done to the edges of it.
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3:03 almost broke your window 😬
So it's truly level 4?
Way too expensive for way too little protection
what's cheaper and offers more?
@@Mrgunsngear I can see how you'd ask that. It's a $80 IDPA with a grip and knee pad. Almost $400 is dumb when it won't stop rifle rounds. I'm saying I wouldn't buy it. They had it close, for $150-200 I'd have probably been interested
Because the camera is not a person. The More You Know.
Don't think i'd ever use a ballistic shield, or would ever want to be in a position where I'd have to rely on one...I still liked to see it get shot and what it'd stop tho lol.
Faster and easier to grab for bumps in the night than getting into a vest.
@@chaimafaghet7343 Idk man, I can slip my vest on in seconds...and I'd like to have my hands free to actually be able to manipulate my weapon and lights properly. If I have time to prep, i'm grabbing my 4" AR, not a pistol
I could see it possibly being useful in that situation for some people..not me though..also a ballistic shield isn't going to always be over your vital points so that's a huge factor as well..usually ballistic shields are used in conjunction with body armor.
@@Please_Consume_Irresponsibly jesus, 4" ? Better grab some ear pro too..
@@Please_Consume_Irresponsibly So when you get in a gun fight you would rather take them full on then have a shield in front of you? Your arms are going to be the first to take hits as they will be in front of your carrier. Carriers are nice but when bullets fly I would rather be safe behind a shield. Real gun fights are not like John whick where he kills 80 and takes one hit to the chest and his vest stops it. Chances are you will take hits and it will be in your arms. Now if they do get hit, manipulating your gun will be quite difficult. A poly shield is where its at. I have both and the poly is setup far better and weights far less. Stops rifle rounds as well. That added to your kit is where its at.
@@thisissparta8884 good luck effectively manipulating a rifle and a shield in the combat situation you just described without getting pinned down though.
I prefer the ability to shoot and scoot before I’m pinned down then shot because I thought my shield will save me. Exactly, it’s not John wick, and a ballistic shield isn’t going to be your saving grace, especially if you have no one behind you providing covering fire so you can move up together. Which is how ballistic shields are most effectively used..
Without support you’re a cumbersome, slow, target with poor weapon manipulation and lack the ability to return fire as accurately and effectively than if you had both hands free and a rifle.
It’s just too niche to be an effective piece of gear unless you’re storming buildings with a team supporting you, it’s not really that useful for a singular person or small family around the house. You’d be much more combat effective returning fire than trying to hide behind the shield.
I still thinks it’s pretty cool and has its place, but I think that place is in a squad role in which you are provided cover so you and another small team can close the gap between the threat.
Just my 2 cents.
Sorry, but these ballistic shields give their owners/bearers a false sense of security. If I was in a gun fight with someone carrying a shield, I would automatically aim for the legs. The average individual’s bottom half usually is longer than the top half making it a better target choice anyways.
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Commies use aks
Rwds uses 223
Fail
Pass. Their customer service is a joke. Poly shields are better and do stop rifle rounds unlike their false claims. Their setup is primitive as shit as well.
When RTS Tactical decided they were going to "Stand with Ukraine" they lost this customer.
fair enough
I wouldn't be surprised if M855 would have gone through if you used a 16" barrel.
Mr G&G that plate failed.. TWICE and is being called RTS Tactical All new Mini Shield LvL IIIa by RTS. Now you come along and call it Special Threat? And you are able to stab two holes in it and yet still call it the only "BUDGET OPTION FOR AMERICAN CONSUMERS"?!?!?! You know as we do there is no way to know what someone is shooting at you. So I'm a bit disappointed that you are trying to approve this plate based on budget friendly and not you testing if it will stop all the rounds they claimed.
It fail yet you seem to be trying to give it a pass so that RST can sell us UNSAFE?