Junk Harley Compensators - Motorsprocket Darkhorse Crankworks - Kevin Baxter - Pro Twin Performance
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- The Man O-War motorsprocket is the 1st performance engineered primary motor sprocket that replaces the OEM Compensator and provides instant torque response combined with an “engine pulse absorbing cushion drive” primary drive system for Harley-Davidson.
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I rebuilt my engine last winter and went with a solid compensating sprocket. I already had a Baker primary chain adjuster. Last summer I didn’t get out much for personal reasons but when I did, I had a lot of clutch slipping. Mostly when taking off hard in 1st gear.
This winter I upgraded to a Barnett Scorpion clutch and while I was in there, a Man O War compensator. I finally got out this Saturday and all I can say is Wow! Between the clutch and the smoothness of the compensator, it’s a whole new bike. No more clutch slippage. I was slipping more in second gear than I realized. First gear takes of hard and when I shift to second and hit the throttle, I’m gone. The sifts are butter smooth no more vibration at idol like the solid sprocket gave me. If you need a compensator, get the Man O War.
I have an 05 FLHTPI with 236000 miles on it and still running original compensator, I am just about to replace it, have had no issues with it so far.
Kevin, I own an aftermarket shop and I enjoy your videos, very well done w/o the BS, you do a fine job.
Thank you very much sir.
What is the name of your aftermarket shop?
Had mine replaced this summer at about 46,000 miles on a 2010 Road Glide, along with the stator. Thanks for the in-depth description.
always
My 1973 Triumph Tiger (poor man's Harley) uses rubber pieces wedged in the clutch hub as a shock absorber.
I replaced the hub assembly last winter, because it was making noises. The bike has 62,000 miles.
The spider that holds the rubber pieces had almost wore thru the inner side plate of hub.
My point is the rubber lasted 62,000 miles & 47 years.
Dude I am totally digging the cafe racer in the background! I'm a little late since this video was posted and I'm sure that bike is complete by now. Looking good man and thanks for the good informational videos!
You installed my Baker 3 years ago and no problems so far
Excellent
Just took a tour of the motor sprocket shop. Awesome product and customer service.
Old style upto 05 was the best 🙌
I just purchased the Man-O-War Compensator...can't wait to get my Bike back to experience the difference.....
i have a 2013 Streetglide 103, im using Mobil 1 V Twin 20w50 in the primary, so far so good.
I used the dark Horse Compensator and was the best thing I every did . Thanks Kevin !!!
Thanks for making the complex understandable. Looks like another part for my build...
You bet
what brought you as an engineer, into the motorcycle field. your way ahead of most in the business, glad you are here.
i enjoy the technical aspects and challenges of it. its also very rewarding to hand someone back the motorcycle theyve dreamed of.
Your a good man sir:
I had the compensator clunking bad on my 2010 Roadglide at 15,000 miles. It would kickback and barely start when hot and made all sorts of racket. Not long it wore out the inner primary bearing and the whole primary had to come apart. We replaced with the SE compensator and a manual chain adjuster as the chain was too tight.
That solved all the primary problems, she runs like a dream now.
I had an 09 softail with the compensator grind at start. Wound up doing about 3k worth of damage. I'll be changing the one on my 19 rgs soon enough to this one.
i added one because of this video i saw a couple years ago....matched with an evolution clutch and i'm loving it.
Had a 2009 ultra that I made a 103 with cams exshaust and tuner in ate the compensator.starter would miss at start up. With all the things you mentioned. I replaced with harleys latest version . I found it made noise but cured my problem. How I love to pay for harleys research and development.
Really like this one , add to my list of "stuff"
Good video Kevin. Stay well.
Likewise.
Thanks Kevin! Good to know. 👍 🇨🇦
Hey man, recently purchased it. I tried ordering from you, something was wrong with site. I put it from man o war. Part of a list of things to be done soon. Great video Kevin.
Thanks for the video. I just replaced the whole primary on my 2008 Road King. In my case the starter went bad. When I started researching starters it led me to the compensator. Anyone with a stock compensator with the 96 ci engine prior to 2010 should be planning to replace their compensator sooner rather than later.
In addition to the starter, my inner clutch hub splines were being ground up.
I ended up replacing everything but the primary chain.
Thanks for your videos.
Thanks for sharing
Did that solve your issue? I just went through a starter jackshaft and a few ring teeth are missing. I have the baker comp and six speed, although I don’t know how old it is. It’s noisy only when starting. Seems there’s a lot of kick back and clanking
I just swapped mine to the darkhorse. I wasn't having any problems yet but considering the damage the stock on can do it only made sense. Installation was simple even though the instructions could be better. Looking forward to summer so I can see if it's money well spent.
Had my compensator grenade on my 2018 Roadglide Special at 35k miles. Harley covered it under warranty. It pretty much took out my entire primary.
I just upgraded to the updated SE Compensator. I wish i would have seen this video before I had my tech do the upgrade. I'm sure it'll be fine. I'm pretty sure I fried it at Rolling Thunder in 2019. Had clunking through 3rd gear when it was stupid hot. Found out my stator was also do for a change. 2010 Softail Deluxe with 22,000 miles. Everything seems fine so far. We shall see. I'll be chaniging to the Darkhorse Compensator if not.
Just bought a 2013 street glide and brought it home to chain all fluids to amsoil. When i drained the primary seen green plastic peices in the drain pan. Pulley the cover and it has a manowar compensater the 4 bolts on the face were sheered off and floating around in the primary. Also is where all the green plastic was coming from
Reminds me of an old triumph t150 cush drive they were shit then and these are no better.
Bolts don’t float! Lol
Thanks for the vid. This sealed the deal for me.
Glad I could help
I put a man-o-war compensator and hayen M8 BT07 prinary chain tensioner in my 2012 (103) road king classic and it is doing great.
Just ordered one today, I've heard nothing but good things about them.
I recently installed the Darkhorse Crankworks Motor Sprocket on my TC Ultra Limited....couldn't be happier. Great design, it's quiet, no more clunk, shifts like butter and is easy to find neutral with out all the clunking in and out trying to get there. Install is fairly simple and went smoothly. DHCW Motor Sprocket is a much better design than any compensator out there....
I don't really have any experience with the compensator but am about to get familiar with it.
THANX A MILLION FOR YOUR VIDEOS GREAT STUFF.
Ill yell that out.
I have performance mods doubling the power of my 1200 first repair the clutch I went with Barnett extra plate carbon - and took the route of ATF tranny fluid in the case it grab great not sure of the rest of the parts.
Have recently been looking at parts and kinda leaning away from SE stuff .
I think like this company they've gone out to where some people need to be.
I think my compensator at this point still functions well after like 4000 plus kilometer I have recently gone by route of amsoil for the case . But I think it's time to shop and this video sure opened it up for me thanx
thank you frank.
I went to a compensator eliminator and it works fantastic
My 2006 compensator failed at around 50,000 miles... the inner springs all where flat upon each other... I installed a BDL belt drive and no issues... BUT I say that to say this, using a solid sprocket up front instead of compensation sprocket with a belt drive one needs to learn how to use to avoid bucking... at low speeds it likes a lil higher rpm which I’ve learned to adjust to.
Great video and tech!
Thank you sir.
Wow what a difference. My bike is much smoother and quieter. I wasn't aware of how much noise my stock compensator was making.
Wish I was close to Georgia, I have an 99evo softail heritage I’d love to have gone through. I’d love to pay someone like you to coach me through the wrench turnin because I really want to learn the ins and outs of this bike I plan on keeping it forever. Just found your channel but I’m subbin and binging.
Hey, your videos have helped a ton, thank you! I installed the man-o-war, APM clutch, and Baker manual adjuster. When I was about to put type ‘f’ atf fluid in, Ben told me I need to be sure the compensater is also designed for type ‘f’ atf fluid. Ben did not have a recommendation and I did not find any info on Dark Horse regarding the lubricant. Do you have a recommendation or direction you can send me in regarding this?
Great videos! Ive learned quite a bit. How often should you change the "rubber" bushings in the Man O War compensator? Thank you for your time
It's great that it is rebuildable. What kind of mileage can you expect out of it or number of years if you don't ride that much. Before rebuild.
One more part on my rebuild list, and most likely on my stuff the blasted warranty list as well.
Great video Kevin
Thanks 👍
Thanks for the info Kevin. Very well presented. I have a 2019 Street Glide with just over 6000 miles. Would you recommend changing the compensator this early and would this affect my Harley warranty, by changing it.
Ordered mine from you today.
Thank you very much. I got the order and itll ship out today.
Best thing I ever did for my Harley.
You sold it??? 😂😂
Before seeing your videos, I eliminated my compensator by replacing it with a solid sprocket. So far, I really like it. No more clunky noises from the compensator. I had two spring packs weaken on me. I don’t know, right now I’m happy with the solid sprocket.
glad it worked for you sir. its not for everyone but, thats why baskin robbins has 31 flavors right? its not wrong, just another way to skin the cat.
Hi Kevin thanks for all your info. Some shops are now producing their own heavy-duty comp ramps and claiming the Man O War comp can be overkill and putting unnecessary wear on the transmission components. I have a 150 hp M8 with 162 tq and I do not beat my bike at all, WOT on the highway and some fast gear changes occasionally. But no drag racing, dropping the clutch etc. What is your opinion? Thanks
Appreciated Kev!
Hi Kevin
Your videos are very informative.
I’m experiencing the wobble in my 2018 streetglide, do you have a fix for that ?
I look for to hearing from you .
John
I have a '83 FXSB. Belt primary with two piece compensator pulley that have the rubber bushings (4) Still works. No problems yet. No broken belts. Knock on something. LOL
You took the time to make a video introducing a new product; Then spent about three seconds showing it.... Can not wait to see the video Darkhorse is working on. I think I'll hold off on installing the Baker Compensator I just bought, until I get a little more info on this Bad Boy. Thanks. New member
Not particularly...it was a follow up video to a 2 part 2 hour long live video where Darkhorse came to my shop and we discussed cranks and the motor sprocket in great detail. Take a minute and look back...I'm sure you'll find plenty of information.
@@KevinBaxter Did watch that 2 part video, thanks........ still not enough info in the Motorsprocket.... But Darkhorse is working on it. I edited my initial comment after watching that 2 part video.... Thanks much
Thank you sir...and thanks for supporting the channel! If you have any specific questions, I'll help any way i can. Andrew at DH is great to chat with as well.
Sounds like the original setup in my 81 FXB. 4 big rubber blocks between the motor output shaft and the primary belt pulley...
Yeah I always thinking of that rubber compensator when I think about comps. Had one too.
Newly installed Man O-War Motorsprocket (2010 Heritage Classic 11K miles) - Also installed with this new compensator was a Hayden M6 BT07 automatic primary chain tensioner. I had great expectations, but no idea exactly what I was going to get out of the Motorsprocket..... But I'd previously switched from standard, fixed position tensioner to a Hayden automatic in my 2003 Heritage; And knew what to expect. The Hayden smoothed out my shifting and made the power curve while running through the gears feel seamless.
As for the Motorsprocket; I didn't feel much during my brief test drive at the shop (Grove Cycle, El Cajon, CA). I trailered the bike, took it home and put on my hwy riding gear, determined to run the bike through it's paces and see what had really changed. I'm in San Diego; so we don't have highways.... we have Freeways; Which means that on a long, up hill on ramp we go from zero to 85 mph as fast as we can to "blend" into traffic. After several miles up and down the freeway and half a dozen on ramps..... Here's the best way I can describe what changed after installing the Man O-War Motorsprocket.
You know how you can FEEL when it's time to shift during acceleration? Maybe you're paying more attention to traffic than your tachometer; You're getting up to speed (oh you know) But you can always FEEL the familiar level of engine vibration that reminds you it's time to shift up to the next gear........ Well, all that was GONE! That "oh it's time to shift" vibration was gone. It felt like the engine could have cared less whether I up-shifted or not...... It just wanted to accelerate. Next my thoughts moved to "Oh, I better keep and eye on my tach... I don't want to Red Line my baby."
Now, as I drive around, I can't help but think how nice it is that I don't have those heavy, metal compensator parts Banging Against Each other....... nothing but bang free, rubber cushioned engine power headed to my rear tire. LOVE IT!!!!!
That is EXCELLENT news sir. Glad it worked out so well for you. Thank you for taking the time to write this up. I'll share it with DH and let them know as well.
@@KevinBaxter I posted the same write-up on their FB page and left a voice message for Andrew thanking him for answering my phone calls and questions leading up to the install. Another ride today... the bike is significantly faster.... Next item is that FP3 Tuner for Vance & Hinds; Little icing on the cake.
Oh... and it's Rick.... not "Sir"....LOL
You got it Rick :) Glad you reached out to them as well. Depending on future performance plans for the bike, I would recommend looking a little deeper into the tuning system you choose...keep options open i guess i should say ;)
NativeSD53 as far as the tuner goes , for what it is worth , I think you would be very happy if you looked heavily at the Dynojet Powervision Tuner my friend . It’s the best of the best for the fuel injected bikes hands down . Lots of tuners out there but only one Dynojet Powervision. Very happy that Hammer Prefomance Suggested this for my bike and engine build . Those guys now there stuff . Research the powervision and you’ll see why it’s great 👍 money well spent for your baby for sure
Thank you I have a 2018 FXBRS, Little over 2000 miles on it and the compensator broke! So sad of H-D to put plastic in this assembly
hate you had the problem
My 2017 FXDLS had compensator failure with only 1000 miles on the motor. It sounded like marbles in the primary. It just had it's 1000 mile check up at the dealership. Got it home and started hearing a knocking in the primary. First trip back to the dealership they put a shim in my brand new motorcycles compensator. The fix lasted all of four hours. I brought it to another local dealership they put in new spring packs which has been good so far. Will this fit my 110? I want the screaming eagle comp out and the auto primary chain tensioner gone as well.
Kevin, I have a 2006 Dyna Superglide. The Man O War sprocket says it will fit my application with added parts (2007 rotor and stator assembly). My question is will this increase the vibration and noise on an 88 ci engine. Have you had a chance to put one of these on a Dyna Superglide and if so how were the results?
I think the stock ones are pretty strong . When mine came through the primary cover it broke my ankle with ease.
Damnit man.... funny, but not funny
@@biggbossman1130 that was on my 4th attempt to ride it home from modesto hd after they fixed the loose nut.the last time it came off it still had about 2" of the crank attached to it.i got the same ol answer.....oh we didn't cause that.took it to Livermore hd and they put a new crank in it in no time.
Really ? Faark n ouch
Hello Kevin, your content is awesome thank you. What would be your preferred primary chain tensioner on a 2011 FXDWG, stage one tune only ? When my compensator shits it's self what should I replace it with ? thank you, kind regards Stevie.
Do those small, very stiff bushing cushion enough of the pulses? The Harley and Baker versions have a lot of give to “compensate”. Solid sprockets offer no compensation and the dark horse would seem to be a happy medium of the two designs but I’m a little skeptical that those small stiff bushings are effective enough to spend 500.00 over a piece I can spend 2-300.00. I’m genuinely asking and interested and not trying to talk crap about it. This comp is at the top of my list of comps that I do need to replace on my bike.
Hey Kevin,
I built a twin cam fxr. Running a 96” 6 speed with a 30t solid sprocket and chain drive conversion. It absolutely rips but I need to do something about the violent vibrations. In your opinion is there enough give in the man o war to handle the chain drive, without a Cush drive?
Thanks!
Thank you very much sir! Appreciate you
Just wondering...on most of my old Harleys I had taller front sprockets made and ran them straight without a compensator...my Flattys, Pans and my Knuckle and didn't have issues.
Now I have a 96" TwinCam, with about 50,000 miles on her and she's been marvelous.
No big noises coming out of the primary but when she's hot she has a coughing/grindy noise emitting from the primary side and not instantly starting, but this happens only about half the time.
What I'm wondering is, what would happen if I ran without a compensator?
Thank you for your consideration.
The more I see about this motorsprocket, the more I want one. But it doesn't seem like they fit HD FXCWC's? Love your videos, Kevin. Cheers from Norway!
read info to DuVall will stay tune with fingers crossed!
Kevin really appreciate your knowledge, facts not opinion. Just bought 94 RK for project bike and was thinking about BDL belt drive. Live in TX and it gets warm. My thought is to lose that extra metal and oil to help her run cooler and still have a good drive system.
I self i stalled a Baker in my 2010 Superglide, but i think i would have gone with this if i knew about it first. It the same idea the all big power (yamaha/bmw) race bikes incorporate in their rear wheel. I've never had one wear out yet.
You took the words right out of my mouth Jimmy, i also resently installed a Baker compensator and adjuster, but now i see this. I don't know the price, but i think it's less expansive.
I have a 2019 Deluxe and am in the process of updating (for reliability) several parts due to your videos. My wife said thanks a lot (read that sarcastically please). When I put the dark horse compensator on, which tensioner should I use? Thanks for your time and please keep up the great videos!
I have a 1990 Fatboy , any idea if those new ones will fit?
I own a 99 fatboy 80 evo. What compenator would you recommend? 86k stock so far
I have a 2009 FLHTR and the motor is a S&S 124” twin cam with a SE compensator if I install the Man-o-war compensator I heard that you need the stock compensator bolt than the one used with the SE compensator. Wondering if you know anything about that .
Excelkent as usual, Kevin. A Fluidamper is still on my old shovel. The compensater bolt issues sure have kept my neighbor's shop busy over the years. Will this new compensator handle repeated wheelie launches on baggers that have been so popular to date on yo'tube? Also, on your crank video, what is the max rpm for revving a 117 underneath an overpass with the clutch pulled in?
LOL....funny. All signs point to yes at this stage. No failures yet. As for the max RPM...bang it off the rev limiter baby....then call a tow truck, then me. LOL
@@KevinBaxter I think that I cut 'the grey wire.' No rev limiter. Take care Kevin.
Hey Kevin, wondering if this could also be the cause of the rattle/knocking common on a 2016 TC103? My Road Glide and two of my buddies' bikes from the same year have it (at idle, sounds like the engine is knocking, feathering the clutch in gear makes it a bit worse, especially if the RPM is a little low). I don't feel any of the signs you mentioned rocking the bike in gear, but also can't seem to find any other cause. Harley says it's normal, but it's getting worse over time (about 40k on the bike now). The engine has the "newer" style (not sure which of these it is) compensator from what I'm told...
My Man O-War Motorsprocket arrived today. First line in the instruction sheet is their recommendation to inspect for sprocket shaft run out. Luckily, .010 maximum is allowable (exhale).... Although I had planned on having my Total Indicated Runout determined.... I hadn't expected to add that cost to the Sprocket, new Rotor and throw in a Hayden Tensioner. But I'm really Jonesing over installing this revolutionary new compensator.
I figure if the mechanic already has everything open and apart to check the run out; I might as well have him install the Man O-War Motorsprocket on his way back out. So, not installing it myself will be the silver lining. Actually I find wrenching very therapeutic.
Update to follow soon.
Thank you sir. Look forward to hearing more. Thanks for sharing.
Kevin, there are a couple of products that I am interested in. There are probably a lot of gimmicks out there however amongst the players there are probably some decent well formulated products. The two additives that appear to be beneficial are, BestLine engine additive and a new product from Hella developed by XG Sciences is Hella engine oil additive. Perry Anderson from BestLine maybe a good person to discuss their products with. Thanks Warrick
Thanks Warrick. I'll reach out to them and see where it leads. Appreciate it sir!
Do they make a Man O War for Evo Engine? I ve replaced my compensator cover with the disc springs in it once &shimmer under the comp nut with one bronze bushing .It stopped slippage under heavy load.
I have a 2016 road glide special , it has the dark horse Comp , but it makes a lot of noise , when I put it in gear , not running & push it back & forth no noise just compression so seems like Comp is good , but I have the T-70 torx bolt on the Comp , do I need to change it back to the factory Comp bolt ? Also with removing primary cover , when add fluid back I put 38oz do I need to add 7 more Oz to make it 45oz of fluid
Does your runout need to be within a certain limit to use this? Like cam plates and oil pumps
Awesome stuff here Mr Baxter,,,,can we get a 32 tooth for an M8 I have a S&S 475C cam , more of a Highway cam and I was thinking a 32 tooth would be a great combo for some lower end torque,,Thanks Mr B
Hi Paul. There are no immediate plans to make a 32 tooth for M8. It may come in the future however. The M8 gearing, and low end torque, is so much better than the 07 era twin cam, didnt think many people would need or want it. Have had a handful of requests. That is more of a mid range cam for sure.
Do I need to replace rotor in order to upgrade stock compensator on EG 2010? (is it feasible just to cut off the spring pack holder from the rotor?)
Hey there from Australia love thie vids I have an 09 fat bob had it rebuilt top end 113 stage 4 put geared 585 cams in was 259 chain drive, but since then i get a rattle in the primary. Mech say comp ok. But it rattles at idle not constant but regular. Tried the rocking tip in1st no noise, no noise on start up or shut down. Mech also said if i replace it I may still get the same rattle. Its annoying and worries me on the explosion side. Mech also said this wont happen.
Any tips here? Done 8 klms since rebuild but has 110klms on the bike about 70 on the clutch and comp.
Does the Man o War comp come with correct spacers? I’ve seen some with a Torx bolt is that on certain years. I just ordered the M O War comp and rotor needed for 2008. Currently running 117” no comp and the pulses at low RPM are ridiculous. I also noticed my motor sprocket looks like it’s out further than the clutch sprocket. Which is my fuck up when putting bike back together. I pulled clutch, chain and sprocket out together and put it back in together. I didn’t check tolerances.
Out of the Darkhorse and the Baker which one would you use as your compensator solution?
Kevin thanks for the video. After installing one of these does the bike need retuned? My 07 FLHX has a motor kit in it already and this winter I’m looking at putting this product in with a rekluse clutch. The way the bike is tuned now I love and don’t want to risk losing the tune. I read this is “34 tooth” how many teeth do the OEM compensators come with? Thanks!
No tuning required. Youre welcome!
I have an S&S 124 I'm having problems finding neutral. Is less teeth or more teeth going to make a difference? It's in an 08 ultra classic.
Nice compensator upgrade. Did a little homework and I found this out… “ **PLEASE NOTE** Touring models made in 2010 to 2010 1/2 have a rotor with an integral compensator spring cup. This rotor will need to be retrofitted with a HD part number 30041-08A late style rotor in order to use this product. “ My bff has a 2010 street glide how will he need this part as well? I have a 2012 fatboy low, do I have a 32 or 34 teeth set up?
Eliminated mine with a 3.35" drag style open belt primary with support plate. I always save all my parts and was wondering besides troubleshooting whilst on the bike is there any of indication of failing parts like a wear or heat pattern that can observed when off the bike? 2002 FXSTB / 33k on compensator. Thanks Kevin
not a bad option at all.
lol I found out I don't have a compensator after the throw out bear let go. Lots good my clutch compressor tool did.
Just like my yamaha waveblasters 2 part comp with a rubber dampener
Is there a need to replace one of these compensators on a pre 2005 motor and will the Darkhorse unit work on them? i see that they only advertise availability on 06 and newer bikes... Thx
Kevin I really like the dark horse simplicity and that it is not metal to metal . What is the hp or torque rating it can hold do you think the rubber will withstand high hp motors?
I think itll hold up extremely well. There are a couple details I cant mention but I will say this...I wouldnt hesitate to put it behind at least 175ft lbs.
Kevin Baxter thanks brother for the response much appreciated!
Kevin I was wondering if my compenstator could be the problem sometimes and not that often when cold starting my 2016 103HO Ultra Limited when starting it makes a load clunking sound so I let go of the starter button and then try again and she starts right up. When this happens every one looks at me and says WTF. 🙄 113,000 miles
I have a 2008 Roadking. If I replace the stock compensator with the Darkhorse one, will I need to replace the stator ?
Would this contribute to my noisy hot starts? I don't notice any shifting issues , knocking on shut down, or hard to find neutral. Only when I stop to get fuel or just restart after running for a bit it cranks then almost makes a kickback noise. Thanks! I'm learning alot from your videos sir.
how about a belt drive system that is adsorbed though the belt from switching gears the front pulley is solid mounted
Thats the only way i personally would run a solid front sprocket...with a belt drive primary.
Great vids and info... Just installed the Darkhorse sprocket, Barnett Scorpion & Hayden tensioner. I love it except its impossible to find neutral when the bike is stopped at idle. Any ideas?
Thanks. Most likely clutch adjustment. Sounds like the clutch isn't opening up enough.
Flyin Low - Please write a follow up once you've adjusted the clutch. I'm considering a Motorsprocket for my 2010 Heritage and would like to hear about your solution
I have the same problem with stock 103 running or not running , so I end up just doing it with my hand...
I have a 08 fatboy and in 2015 went to sturgis and bike got hot. It was hotter than crap out and very busy with stopped traffic. I think this plays a part cause 8 months later the stator went out then the compensater at the end of 16 or beginning of 17. The mechanic was unsure what way they torqued it since there was a torque change on the nut around that time but as i couldn't prove they did it wrong or just a junk harley part. So i end up paying for it. So junk part or bad torque?
Just put in a baker comp( love it )
Hey Kevin. I’ve got an evo FXR. Did they make a compensator to improve upon that design?
I'm using a Hayden M6 already, should I return to the stock self adjuster or keep the Hayden on with the Darkhorse upgrade?
Thinking about upgrading to this. I have 30,000 miles on my 2010 street glide and its starting to sound like i have rocks in the primary when i shut the bike off. It also doesnt' like downshifting sometimes. Just wondering if it would be best to go with the 34 or 32 sprocket? i dont run my bike hard. Mostly just ride around 55 mph. I was also wondering if I should go ahead and replace the stator and auto primary tensioner with new ones since they are 10 years old and have mileage on them? Just trying to avoid having to tear primary apart again for awhile.
With the 32 tooth, you'll have a lower gear and more grunt. Youll need to have a Power Vision or other flash tuner that will allow the new gear ratios to be programmed into your ecm. It will raise RPM in 6th gear right at 180. If you want quicker acceleration, and a little higher RPM in each gear relative to MPH, 32 is the way to go. They are on backorder and hope to ship in a week or two. I would be sure to check crank runout and inspect your clutch basket, bearing, etc when you do the install. We could put a kit together for you that has the motor sprocket, tensioner, stator/rotor/regulator, gaskets, etc if you like. The proven combo that works for us. You can call the shop at 6782269651 (I'll be back on Tuesday) or email me at kevin@protwin.com. Thanks!
Do you recommend a dark horse compensator for a S&S 124 kit ?
I was told they are noisy and not to do it if I have stock clutch and stock transmission
People always say you dump a lot of money into a Harley davidson, it is replacing bad design stock parts mostly.
I had the DK installed with new primary chain, now the trans rattles at idle. DK says this is common as 1/2nd gear bang against each other. Did you find a fix for this or have this experience?