Being a classical musician for around 20 years I can tell you that this is how a lot of classical musicians treat eachother from what I’ve experienced - especially in professional settings
@@noobboss0 he was a legendary pianist back then and he retired until he got in an argument on youtube and decided to go back to the pianist life he once forsakened
@@jameshakai1662 The thing is, a lot of pianists, especially the good ones, are classically-trained musicians. My personal experience with classically-trained musicians is that they tend to be, how do I put this in a non-offensive way, proud perhaps? They are proud that they're good at what they do, so much so that if you're inferior to them they'll be sure to let you know. In contrast, a lot of contemporary musicians (most guitarists, bassists, drummers, etc) are really chill. This is just anecdotal of course, so take it with a grain of salt.
@@Armadillo-bg2qi I think Charlie just doesn't understand how obvious many of the mistakes were to a musician. To a good musician, simply being told it needs more work is enough. They should already know where their major mistakes were. It is _extremely_ rare to come out of a performance and think it was perfect. In the few times that it happens, people will shake your hand and tell you it's the most perfect performance of that piece they've heard in their life. If they don't already know their mistakes, then it's unlikely that I'd be able to write something that would be able to convey it without writing a novel in YT comments. Well, other than very high level criticisms like stalling too long on hand transitions, not using the pedal enough, failing to keep tempo. That's just technical stuff, not even onto musicality improvements which is much harder to explain.
WAIT! FANCHEN ISN’T MEAN! On the channel that posted the so-called “mediocre” Rush E, Fanchen supported him on his newest video. He is a supporter of their channel.
@@sunium5814 Not sure if you wanna trigger me with that , but no matter what i will take it as you wrote it, have a nice day! EDIT: Just for clearing up he edited his comment, it ended with and , instead of .
Sorry to interrupt your conversation with yourself but I just wanted to say that I do agree. The russian theme and powerful notes make this a pretty decent villain theme.
i really didnt like the fact he just said it was mediocre with no tip or something, but i really musnt care, it isnt a big deal afterall just another internet argument but this time the bad guy actuallyyy wins
He was baiting 100% he was just sitting by his laptop, stroking his mustache and waiting for someone to respond with something around the lines of “then you do it then!”
The funniest part is it’s a custom arrangement and people don’t even appreciate that. You can’t just go online and find simplified versions of Rush E. Well, you can, but they’ll all be the same one or two versions. This is HIS arrangement, adding even more skill to this feat.
Fr, people don't get that half of the difficulty, and honestly most of the brainwork (for me anyway) goes into arranging/transcribing the music rather than learning the piece itself.
Never has there been a better performance by any musician. Everything about the performance was awe inspiring even the editing brought tears to my eyes. How dare anyone criticize such perfection! If you think you found a single flaw then you belong in a straight-jacket! Every single note is %1000 distinct and doesn't overlap even with adjacent keys being pressed at the same time. 🙄 There, now you know that i can spew the bullshit-fanboy-worship as good as any of yall😂
@@elainez the only reason for going back over my comment 15 times and correcting every mistake spell check made would be to flatter you but I don't care about that
I like to imagine that Fanchen actually knew nothing about piano before this, and his piano abilities were fuelled by nothing other than pure spite and hubris.
As a guitarists I can guarantee you that type of trash talking will get him verbally assaulted and if said to the wrong guitarist, punched. In short, talent means nothing if you can't defend yourself
He apparently has a piano video from five years ago. Still, not impressed that he decided to be an arrogant piece of shit just because he knows how to play the piece better than an aspiring musician.
@@ovencake523yet he didn't state what needed to be improved as such he wasn't giving constructive criticism he was just being a jerk. Think of it like this, you made a form of art for fun and someone who may or may not be more talented at that artform than you goes up to you and says "this is trash, I could do better in my sleep." you'd be peeved as they aren't giving any input as to what can be improved.
My phone somehow just glitched and I gave you four likes? I opened the replies, gave ur comment a like, left and saw that the total went up but the button wasn't blue, and hit it 3 more times, seeing the counter go up each time, until it turned blue. Weirdest youtube glitch I've ever seen personally.
this reminds me of that twitter argument where a guy draws luffy then posts it,some guy says he messed up somewhere then the poster says you cant even do it and the guy that corrected his mistake turns out to be one of the animators of one piece.
@@sumkid9263 They go on to become orchestra players typically. The school is partners with the state symphony, so it’s easier for them to get in there. Others intend to become music teachers or band instructors. There are surprisingly a lot of instrument focused jobs, and not all of them require you to be the absolute best player (aka school teaching).
If you got the skill to back it up. As Polo G once said (I ain't cocky, just confident.) I can respect someone one upping me cause there will always be someone better than you.
This is going to sound super lame but, honestly helping someone and actually seeing them improve is a way better feeling than dissing anyone. Unless maybe the person you were dissing was being an asshole first.
@@Humansarebetter1To the one who possesses a mind as narrow as a mousehole, I bid thee hear my words. Your lack of humor is like a black spot on a brilliant painting, a blight on the symphony of wit. Pray tell, what jest did you perceive in the quoted text, accompanied by mere emojis? There is nothing humorous in the mundane, and your attempt to find laughter in such triviality merely reveals the depths of your simplicity.
@@gravesake you and your yolk over complicate the wonderful world so much that you do not enjoy, you need not think all the time to show your “ superiority” over everyone else good sir. Enjoy the world for how absurd it really is.
@Dylan Ogega Yes it is. Arrogance is arrogance, regardless of whether you’re actually capable or talented. Two people can both be superb at something, one can be arrogant about it and the other can be humble.
EPILOGUE: Fanchen and the guy he called mediocre collaborated with 2 other people to make a version of rush E with 4 people. The villan and the hero with the help of support characters have made an alliance and made the end of a story, a very impressive end indeed.
Never has there been a better performance by any musician. Everything about the performance was awe inspiring even the editing brought tears to my eyes. How dare anyone criticize such perfection! If you think you found a single flaw then you belong in a straight-jacket! Every single note is %1000 distinct and doesn't overlap even with adjacent keys being pressed at the same time. 🙄
"I see you have promise. I will let you live for now and let you return to me when your stronger. Farewell" *Fucking goes straight through a mountain and destroys 7 villages just by trying to retreat back to his homebase*
@A Z Did your parents love you enough? I ask only because I can’t think of any other reason you would be here talking shit. It’s also weird since your pfp is something a 12 year old would have. O and btw I’m great at piano.
@A Z Aw. I’m REALLY sorry I got to you. I guess someone hasn’t encountered enough trolls to know that’s what I was doing. In case it wasn’t clear by my claim of piano playing, I was joking. Maybe I should have expected you to take it to heart *since* you took the time to correct the usage of the word “troll” in another online joke… And I’m not sure what you think the word “since” means, but I’m using it as a conjunction.
Yeah. Like that one time I got pissed at someone calling sharks murderous beasts so I spent over an hour looking for credible sources. They never replied, I wonder why?
Crazy thing is, people are actually just attacking him and being toxic towards him for literally NO reason. All that Fanchen said was that the rendition had room for improvment. People somehow saw it as "lmao this shit is ass delete it rn" and began to hate him and calling him names for no reason at ALL. He even admit, he didn't mean anything negative by it, he was just saying that there was room for improvement, and that he should have put more effort into the play before uploading it online. Remember kids, don't hate someone just because you don't know 'em!
And the worst thing of all is that just a guy who like hentai unironically even admit that fanchen wasn’t even the bad guy afterwards and he just got heated
i feel like if you imagine this as a conversation it’s so normal. like: “what did you think of my playing” “yeah it was alright, room for improvement tho keep on playing and practicing” fanchen didn’t insult his whole bloodline and curse him to 100 years of torture for uploading an ok performance, bro just gave his opinion and proved he had the experience to know what he was saying.
@@agingerredhead9380 even so, not all criticism should be taken too personal either, these people are acting like they’re gonna always see toxic ppl in the internet
Nah, he said it was mediocre without going into detail. Indistinguishable from a random troll comment you see under every such video. You just choose to read it as a positive comment because if what happened afterwards. The fact that he was good at it, does not change that. People are just defending this guy because he "won" in the end, and people like to be on the winning side, no matter how that side actually behaves. If you're good at something and you go on TH-cam mocking people who aren't as good as you, that is apparently acceptable to a lot of people here, because you "win", so they will side with you. Even though they all would have condemned that exact same comment if he HADN'T bothered to put up a video. This whole comment section is kind of depressing, honestly.
it’s not that deep i really think people like that are better than the *holy your an ultra pianist* he’d only stay at the level he’s at if everyone told him that but if you get people that tell you something is mediocre even if it’s not it just instills this burning feeling of wanting to do better and actually pushing yourself to the limit
Wouldve been so funny if the hentai dude commented “mediocre performance, no offense”. And then just uploads his version of the song which is 50x better
In the end they work together to put play the third pianist who played better then both of them but when the three unite the play the impossible version and grab a pizza together
WAIT! FANCHEN ISN’T MEAN! On the channel that posted the so-called “mediocre” Rush E, Fanchen supported him on his newest video. He is a supporter of their channel.
Fanchen, the og uploader, and another piano channel uploaded an "8 arm rendition" of RushE with all of them that slaps. The og postwr and fanchen are on good terms. This story has a real happy ending
I totally get his ideals. His thinking was that "if I were going to spend the time to learn something and show off my skills, I would be more refined." And then when people called him out, he did it
@@chairjacker i really doubt he made a comment to some random vid and expected to get called out then for that argument to blow up then for someone like Charlieto make a vid on it lol
@@minatonamikaze7504 that sounds pretty reasonable except for the last part, he could've 100% just wanted attention. No way he expected THIS attention but, I'd imagine he did want attention to some degree.
Serious question though. The guy asks why would people dislike this. And he responded with essentially "eh i just didn't think it was that good" what's wrong with that
Fanchen said in the description of his own video that his definition of mediocre is that it has room for improvement, and he and the creator of the original video even teamed up to make a video together. From the guy's perspective though, it seemed like Fanchen was being an ass. The guy commented on this video to say that he was sorry for making assumptions, and Fanchen responded to this by saying that he and the guy were "basically married now" in the description of his TH-cam video.
Well it's because mediocre isn't always "essentially" what you said it is. Mediocre does mean average, but it often has a more negative and condescending tone than if you said okay, fine, 5/10, or not good not bad. It comes of as, "it's not as good as it you think it is/it's extremely underwhelming" . Again, those sayings can mean the same thing as "fine", but they sound like the person doesn't care about other people's opinions.
Fr I also hate that people dislike him for giving his opinion. People saying he was being a jerk and should have given constructive criticism don’t make no sense. Using that logic you would have to say why it’s good and can’t just give a compliment by itself
As a competitive pianist, this guy is good. Like really good. For non-music people it’s almost impossible to feel the sheer magnitude of the difference, but his technique is incredibly clear.
A someone who was raised on piano and music, I think it would be fair to call myself an "intermediate" musician, though to be fair I basically "gave up" at about 15-16. Though I have some talents, I've never considered myself special. What I've come to learn is that music (and the arts in general) is very intangible to non-artists/musicians. Laymen tend to percieve it as some sort of arcane wizardry rather than simply a skill that one improves at over a lifetime. The first guy is very obviously a hobbyist with maybe a few years under their belt and the second is a serious musican who's probably been playing since childhood. It's like comparing someone who's been studying a language for 2-3 years to a native speaker. I think many have experienced this phenomenon, when you're someone who practices hours a day and you walk outside of your bubble into the laymen world it can be very jarring. You're baffled by the things you see people being impressed by. It's not because you're an asshole, it's likely because you've spent a lifetime being told you're not special yourself and being made to iron out imperfections that are very glaringly obvious to you. I think there's similar things such as chess, gynamastics, etc. People don't really understand the levels of self-criticalness those worlds can leave you with, you're basically getting heavily roasted starting at age 5. It can actually be unhealthy.
Being a classical musician for around 1 millisecond, I can tell you that this is how a lot of classical musicians treat eachother from what I’ve experienced - especially in professional settings.
This is like when a guy claimed to be more ripped than you and better at guitar and you say prove it and he comes over a claps your mom and becomes step dad.
his attitude is what drives classical music to be one of the most prestigious arts, if people aren't elitist about skill there won't be as much drive to pour your life and soul into practicing
@williammarchand253 that is irrelevant though. To his skill level. The original video piano player was really was A Mediocre to him. Age never was the focus of the argument. It was about skill.
@@timexyemerald6290 Yeah the person got what they asked for, they couldn't fathom what mediocre is because they were a non-player. Had to sting because it also reveals that their musical taste and ear was atrocious. Glad they got pwned LMAO
Fanchen was only using 2% of his power. He could've played the whole piece but unfortunately, his piano wouldn't even be able to withstand the onslaught.
I think it’s worse to have someone who gets told “Do it better than, jerk” and then decides to dedicate 5 years of their life to learning an entire trade just to do it better.
@@1404kevinmicik Yeah, but that implies he was already good at piano. That’s not as terrifying to me as “Someone said I couldn’t do it, let me take a college course and master the trade so that I can prove them wrong”
Gotta give Fanchen credit, starting up drama makes more people inclined to watch his video. He secured significantly more views compared to had he just posted the video and said he was inspired. Hopefully he does come across nicer in the future, as he is certainly capable of providing really good criticism because of his skill.
Also, the hentai guy was annoying. Constantly spamming "How can anyone diswike dis!" across videos is incredibly stupid and adds nothing to the conversation.
Yeah it's a great strategy. Hating on some random pianist who just wanted to upload his rendition of a piece of music, so that he can make him feel down about it and piss people off so much that it gets people to come to his channel. I should use that. I have a lot of young pianists to shame rn.
People have different ways of elaborating their argument. Fanchen's way of elaboration is more effective in backing up his argument than just spouting out some musical theories that will fly over most people's heads.
@@cevcena6692 I don't think that the "talent" is the problem. Like penguin said, when it comes to piano most people only know about Mozart, Bach, I would add Beethoven and the last guy/girl being crowned by the general media as the new wonder of the current generation. Those talented classical musicians don't get that much acknowledgement outside of their own turf, in fact they reminded me of chess players, lot of talented people, but people only care about Kasparof, Fisher and this young guy I forgot the name. But this is what you get when you're into things that aren't that popular.
@@cevcena6692 "But the problem is they know it". Huh? I fail to see how it's a problem when someone knows they're good at something. They know their worth.
@@kebiwoni there is knowing your talents worth, and then there’s acting like because of that talent, they are superior in every way to everyone else who isn’t talented at that thing too, which is what the first guy means when he says “but the problem is they know it”
i remember getting this videos recommended (Franchen's) and thinking "cool title wonder what happened" and then proceeded to learn the lore and it was amazed! one of the bes things to come out of the internet
I'm a musician myself. Being good at a instrument is hours of pratice until the insanity. The first guy has what it takes to make a good Rush E version. He just needs to pratice until he's sends a incestal letter to his sister, and is into feces.
If you put his talent into perspective，he probably genuienly thought the first performance was mediocre instead of intentionalky trying to be an a-hole
Yeah I didn't even really see it as him being an asshole either. Everybody keeps saying "he should have offered tips" How the hell is he going to give him tips in a comment section like that lmao
@@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916 Plus he wasn't even talking to the performer lol, he was responding to someone asking why people didn't like the video. Someone who genuinely spends their time wisely isn't going to explain to some random.
@@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916 Not to be the guy that says "just" to everything, but... He could just tell him what he could improve on, or maybe worded it differently when he first wrote the comment instead of coming off as an asshole.
@@thomaspena1945 Piano is a extremely technical instrument, pianists give criticism to other pianists all the time unless the piece was redefined for hours
@@TheCardboardB_andit33 so u also didn't watch the video? Because calling something mediocre isn't criticism, you need to actually SAY what they should improve in
Honestly, yeh. Maybe he's trynna get to him to in a weird and brutal way, get him try tory harder cuz he sees potential in him. I've seen techniques like that used before.
@@rock4glory713 too people that practice piano that’s actually being nice most of them probably would started shifting on him all day even then franchin still thinks he can polish it even more to him it just seems like a normal comment
@@ihatenagi ye I figured. I've done a lot of music stuff and I honestly think piano players and clarinet players are the worst. I'm not saying all just in my expirence and that seems to be the stereotype.
and thats probably what fanchen meant but generally, the word has earned a lot of negative connotation recently, the word mediocre is treated as just shy of bad, not as middle of the road as its supposed to be
He even ended up going on to collaborate with the guy who initially uploaded the video, and squashed the beef with hentai guy. Dude won on all sides. Edit: jesus, stop arguing in the comments, we about positivity and letting shit go in this bitch😂😂
Hentai guy deserves to be shamed. It's always a cop out for losers like him to say that people can't criticise if they can't do it in the first place. Hope he goes off himself
I think that he is not only a great pianist, he is also a damn good marketeer, the way he built hype for the video was unreal. I think it was all on purpose ngl.
Let's be real, Fenchen would not have obtained that level of attention on his video had he been all nice and lovey dovey in the comments. He handed out an L and took a W....such is life.
@@list9016 maybe but negativity always sticks out more than positivity unfortunately. I mean out of all the hundreds of positive comments, Fanchen's 1 negative comment is what everyone gravitated to.
@@BlakouttheMM See, that is a very good point, however, you can argue that Charlie’s lexicon consists of all 27 ways you can say butthole in polite conversation. The lexicon of buttholes.
The problem isn't his opinion on it. The problem is his approach and attitude. If he went up to a pianist in the subway and called him mediocre, he'd probably be told to fuck off or even punched if the dude was unstable. The internet allows you to say major shit without any real repercussion
Being a classical musician for around 20 years I can tell you that this is how a lot of classical musicians treat eachother from what I’ve experienced - especially in professional settings
Which doesn’t justify it lmao
Man that sucks. Why can't people just encourage each other instead of shitting on them?
@@MrFusion Because not everyone is a big suck up 🐱
@@devilliar3786 being a suck up and not being an asshole are two different things
@@MrFusion why do people shit on him for shitting on people and not Gordon Ramsay? Curb that flattering logic
Plot twist: Fanchen wasn’t good at piano when he made the first comment. He became a pianist out of pure spite.
A legend was born through a youtube argument lmao
😂😂😂
Ik this is a joke but fanchen has a piano video from 5 years ago
this is my favorite theory
@@noobboss0 he was a legendary pianist back then and he retired until he got in an argument on youtube and decided to go back to the pianist life he once forsakened
This is why playing the piano is concentrated mental torture. There’s always someone better than you around and they’ll make sure you know
Not relevant, because that applies to literally any kind of skill
@@jameshakai1662 Yeah theres always gonna be some snobby asshole to remind you they're better
@@PugBroSo Then get so better so they can't say shit.
@@jameshakai1662 The thing is, a lot of pianists, especially the good ones, are classically-trained musicians. My personal experience with classically-trained musicians is that they tend to be, how do I put this in a non-offensive way, proud perhaps? They are proud that they're good at what they do, so much so that if you're inferior to them they'll be sure to let you know.
In contrast, a lot of contemporary musicians (most guitarists, bassists, drummers, etc) are really chill.
This is just anecdotal of course, so take it with a grain of salt.
@@jameshakai1662 not really
Guy said "no offense" and everyone took full offense.
Exactly, this is one of the videos where I don’t think Charlie is right
Uh huh
@@Armadillo-bg2qi I think Charlie just doesn't understand how obvious many of the mistakes were to a musician.
To a good musician, simply being told it needs more work is enough. They should already know where their major mistakes were. It is _extremely_ rare to come out of a performance and think it was perfect. In the few times that it happens, people will shake your hand and tell you it's the most perfect performance of that piece they've heard in their life.
If they don't already know their mistakes, then it's unlikely that I'd be able to write something that would be able to convey it without writing a novel in YT comments. Well, other than very high level criticisms like stalling too long on hand transitions, not using the pedal enough, failing to keep tempo. That's just technical stuff, not even onto musicality improvements which is much harder to explain.
More like he said "no offence" but then said something offensive. That's all.
@@Schelly and that’s what I call
*a load of rubbish*
“Then do it. Stop talking and DO IT.” Doom music kicks in.
*Doom music played in piano kicks in*
WAIT! FANCHEN ISN’T MEAN! On the channel that posted the so-called “mediocre” Rush E, Fanchen supported him on his newest video. He is a supporter of their channel.
Regret incoming in 10
All caps
Rush E starts playing
It’s over when a pianist says a performance is mediocre.
Laughs in tinnitus
It's over when somone actually uses advanced grammar.
@@sunium5814 grammar is just away of making speech more regulated and understandable. If you understood what he said than every thing should be fine.
@@IshIKoara Yeah you are right.
@@sunium5814 Not sure if you wanna trigger me with that , but no matter what i will take it as you wrote it, have a nice day!
EDIT:
Just for clearing up he edited his comment, it ended with and , instead of .
This guy has officially earned his claim to this piece as his villain theme
It plays every time he ties one of his victims to railroad tracks
Sorry to interrupt your conversation with yourself but I just wanted to say that I do agree. The russian theme and powerful notes make this a pretty decent villain theme.
@@sigmaoperator1688 HAHA-
The “sorry to interrupt your conversation with yourself” MADE ME DIE 😂
@@AJTheShawg 🤣🤣
@@AJTheShawg 🤣🤣
3 years later and franchen is STILL being treated like a GOD over there. Dude won in every way possible in this situation
fr tho
Real
Good for him lmfao.
Why are people praising a pretentious asshole for any other reason then yeah he's extremely talented
i really didnt like the fact he just said it was mediocre with no tip or something, but i really musnt care, it isnt a big deal afterall just another internet argument but this time the bad guy actuallyyy wins
He was baiting 100% he was just sitting by his laptop, stroking his mustache and waiting for someone to respond with something around the lines of “then you do it then!”
He didn't wait he looked and found
Chad
He was.. dare i say it.. trolling
@@eeveesmusic1938 He was just being an asshole
@@disliked1390 In Ireland we say,
Jaaaysus Yer man can feckin play
The funniest part is it’s a custom arrangement and people don’t even appreciate that. You can’t just go online and find simplified versions of Rush E. Well, you can, but they’ll all be the same one or two versions. This is HIS arrangement, adding even more skill to this feat.
And he did it all in a week. Menace
😧
Fr, people don't get that half of the difficulty, and honestly most of the brainwork (for me anyway) goes into arranging/transcribing the music rather than learning the piece itself.
Man transposed a piece and perfected it in one week over an argument
@Obama doESn’t care true
"unfortunately, it fucking slaps."
not a sentence you see every day.
hear*
@@DaveLambertITA taste*
@@desensitized smell*
@@callmezombie6323 feel*
@@libersia7302 We’re out of senses
The best part about this, is that Fanchen, Prolitening, and The Meeks had also collaborated together to do an 8-handed version of the song.
ONTOP OF THAT, The Meeks actually have “It was mediocre” merchandise on their site.
Never has there been a better performance by any musician. Everything about the performance was awe inspiring even the editing brought tears to my eyes. How dare anyone criticize such perfection! If you think you found a single flaw then you belong in a straight-jacket! Every single note is %1000 distinct and doesn't overlap even with adjacent keys being pressed at the same time. 🙄
There, now you know that i can spew the bullshit-fanboy-worship as good as any of yall😂
@@SCORCHED-EARTH cam you fanboy worship a character named banban from garten of banban
@@SCORCHED-EARTH It's strait-jacket, actually. Look it up if you don't believe me.
@@elainez the only reason for going back over my comment 15 times and correcting every mistake spell check made would be to flatter you but I don't care about that
I like to imagine that Fanchen actually knew nothing about piano before this, and his piano abilities were fuelled by nothing other than pure spite and hubris.
As a guitarists I can guarantee you that type of trash talking will get him verbally assaulted and if said to the wrong guitarist, punched. In short, talent means nothing if you can't defend yourself
Unless you’re talented AT defending yourself
@@SuicideSeason4545 "Haha, daaamn bro, I'd totally *punch* that dude! I'm a guitarist brooo!" Stfu
He apparently has a piano video from five years ago. Still, not impressed that he decided to be an arrogant piece of shit just because he knows how to play the piece better than an aspiring musician.
@@SuicideSeason4545 real edgy
Fenchen: "You are not that guy pal, you are not that guy"
Other guy: "Are you?"
Fenchen: "Absolutely"
Is this from something?
@@brucewayne2184 tough guy tik tok
@@ericchoi1515 college tutor to catch a predator Chris Hansen as well
Sigma guy
@@brucewayne2184 watch it in this channel
“Unfortunately, it fucking slaps.”
Best Charles quote.
🤨🤨🤨ayo??
WOOOOOOOOOOO!! YEAH BABY thatswhatsivebeenwaitingfor
thatswhatitsabout
wHOOOOOO
fanchen got the most likes to lol
I'm rewatching this video after finding it with "unfortunately it slaps"
not even close to the iconic "MY COCK IS THROBBING, THROBBING"
I wouldn’t even say he was being an asshole, he was just extremely talented so his perspective is warped.
That's a nice perspective, thanks!
i wouldnt even say really warped - he just has the expertise and experience to see the room for improvement
@@ovencake523yet he didn't state what needed to be improved as such he wasn't giving constructive criticism he was just being a jerk.
Think of it like this, you made a form of art for fun and someone who may or may not be more talented at that artform than you goes up to you and says "this is trash, I could do better in my sleep." you'd be peeved as they aren't giving any input as to what can be improved.
@@tinycoinfromholland1391 He only said it was mediocre, not downright absolute devil's feces sprinkled with cancer and charcoal.
@@tinycoinfromholland1391 What? He didn't write anything like that. He wrote that it's mediocre, that's it... how is that being a jerk???
I honestly wish more internet arguments were like this
Want to start one?
@@chaddy8565 Jeffrey eipstein didn't kill himself, prove me wrong
Why? Lonely?
No
@@Noah-lj2sg* finds and kills jeffrey epstein to prove my point*
“Why are you booing me? I'm right." - Fanchen, probably.
And he is.
And he actually is
People will always have a bad attitude, not caring about how the first guy feels. Hentai Guy did all the talking so they have no right to piss on him
He was right though
Idk get why people are against him the hentai guy was just kinda cringe imo
"Unfortunately, it fucking slaps"
Lol... That performance was good as hell.
An add came right after he said that for me
@@nanotron6491 Same
@Bold Coward still higher than her
It was mediocre, no offense
Probably because it was mediocre, no offence
"Nah I'd win" moment
Lmao
Except that fanchen actually won
"would you lose?"
Shut up why are you shitting some brainrot unfunny meme in the comment of a video who is 3 years old
@@NoahCallenberg yeah everyone uses it wrong nowadays
Man called his bluff. Apparently he wasn’t bluffing.
Beluga
@@beluga8956 O ma god. It’s the cat
@@beluga8956 yo, is that Beluga?
@@beluga8956 not verified
@@beluga8956 beluga
"He gives his rendition of this piece, and unfortunately, it fucking slaps.."
The disappointment in his voice just made it that much more funny lmao
Yeah keep talking mate
@@ThatsWhtasUp what
My phone somehow just glitched and I gave you four likes? I opened the replies, gave ur comment a like, left and saw that the total went up but the button wasn't blue, and hit it 3 more times, seeing the counter go up each time, until it turned blue.
Weirdest youtube glitch I've ever seen personally.
timestamp
@@xcels 6:23
This is proof that there is no stronger motivator than pure spite.
true
Sony and nintendo
this. Hate makes you stronger
Pretty unhealthy way of motivating urself tho
That's how murder happens
this reminds me of that twitter argument where a guy draws luffy then posts it,some guy says he messed up somewhere then the poster says you cant even do it and the guy that corrected his mistake turns out to be one of the animators of one piece.
The guy who «drew» luffy didn’t actually draw him, he used AI, which is what the animator complained about.
This dude is like every piano major at my school. Incredibly cocky and incredibly skilled
The most soul crushing combo
Yeah but a piano major? They aint making any money unless they go above and beyond in their skill.
@@sumkid9263 They go on to become orchestra players typically. The school is partners with the state symphony, so it’s easier for them to get in there. Others intend to become music teachers or band instructors. There are surprisingly a lot of instrument focused jobs, and not all of them require you to be the absolute best player (aka school teaching).
Me and the boys who have the “physically active buff”: Your power is inactive here
If you got the skill to back it up. As Polo G once said (I ain't cocky, just confident.) I can respect someone one upping me cause there will always be someone better than you.
"unfortunately, it fucking slaps" sadder words have never been pronounced
Famous last words
“Unfortunately, it fucking slaps” FIN.
Brother
@@loognabet1753 brother...
@J IMAKREWITATL son?
Honestly, being able to diss people and then absolutely destroy them should be the greatest feeling of power.
When you drop a "here's why you suck" essay, and then can also cite more than 50 sources on their ass.
I'd imagine it feels pretty fuckin' sick actually :^]
This is going to sound super lame but, honestly helping someone and actually seeing them improve is a way better feeling than dissing anyone. Unless maybe the person you were dissing was being an asshole first.
@@dominicsaavedra5113 Oh yeah, then the feeling of saving someone´s life would beat the shit out of that feeling.
Some of us like him because we vicariously live through the feeling of shutting people down with high skills. Polarizing but can’t deny those skills
“guy thinks i cant play rush E and calls me a liar” 😭😭😭😭💯💯💯
What could possibly be so laughable about a mere string of basic emojis, to elicit mirth from 122 individuals? Truly, it confounds the logical mind.
" "guy thinks i cant play rush E and calls me a liar" 😭😭😭😭💯💯💯" " 😭😭😭😭💯💯💯
@@gravesake probably because it was hilarious, no offence.
@@Humansarebetter1To the one who possesses a mind as narrow as a mousehole, I bid thee hear my words. Your lack of humor is like a black spot on a brilliant painting, a blight on the symphony of wit. Pray tell, what jest did you perceive in the quoted text, accompanied by mere emojis? There is nothing humorous in the mundane, and your attempt to find laughter in such triviality merely reveals the depths of your simplicity.
@@gravesake you and your yolk over complicate the wonderful world so much that you do not enjoy, you need not think all the time to show your “ superiority” over everyone else good sir. Enjoy the world for how absurd it really is.
He has the skill to back up his arrogance, a true anti-hero.
That’s actually a pretty smart statement
The classic heel
@Dylan Ogega Yes it is. Arrogance is arrogance, regardless of whether you’re actually capable or talented. Two people can both be superb at something, one can be arrogant about it and the other can be humble.
@Dylan Ogega of course it is
@@criert135 yeah the man was obnoxiously arrogant with his abilities and kinda looked down on the poor rush e dude
EPILOGUE: Fanchen and the guy he called mediocre collaborated with 2 other people to make a version of rush E with 4 people. The villan and the hero with the help of support characters have made an alliance and made the end of a story, a very impressive end indeed.
Wouldnt this be an epilogue?
@@teslagasoline5629 yup, prologue is what happens before
@@teslagasoline5629 yup, im stupid
That is actually pretty wholesome
Like always, the weeb lost.
Happy ending
Fanchen is like that one character that you hate because of his personality but begrudgingly respect because he really is skilled at what he does.
Like me?
@@themostdislikedchannel nobody respects you
Leone Abbachio
Tywin lannister
@@lahar2412 what? I just like Morgz is that bad?
nah mediocre is a type of note
Never has there been a better performance by any musician. Everything about the performance was awe inspiring even the editing brought tears to my eyes. How dare anyone criticize such perfection! If you think you found a single flaw then you belong in a straight-jacket! Every single note is %1000 distinct and doesn't overlap even with adjacent keys being pressed at the same time. 🙄
@@SCORCHED-EARTH are you replying to a different comment?
@@suzennemann7730 nope
do better
@@ache6407 careful
He's not just a bad guy, he's a well written anime antagonist
And the protagonist never came
"I see you have promise. I will let you live for now and let you return to me when your stronger. Farewell"
*Fucking goes straight through a mountain and destroys 7 villages just by trying to retreat back to his homebase*
A broken hero
He was misunderstood.
Literally the arc halfway through where the writer subverts expectations and the villain wins in order to make the triumphant ending more satisfying.
That's a hard "I'm not even mad, I'm impressed" moment.
Like a good wheel of cheese.
@@Abi-ki1rc very epic indeed
@Repent Repent what
@@crazyboi6654 repent
Dude straight up got served
Literally sounds like an Onion article.
“Worst troll on internet backs up claim of piano mastery.”
Hahaha 😂🤣
spot on. Nice.
There's a clickhole article to the same effect. Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Great Point
@A Z Did your parents love you enough? I ask only because I can’t think of any other reason you would be here talking shit. It’s also weird since your pfp is something a 12 year old would have.
O and btw I’m great at piano.
@A Z Aw. I’m REALLY sorry I got to you. I guess someone hasn’t encountered enough trolls to know that’s what I was doing.
In case it wasn’t clear by my claim of piano playing, I was joking. Maybe I should have expected you to take it to heart *since* you took the time to correct the usage of the word “troll” in another online joke…
And I’m not sure what you think the word “since” means, but I’m using it as a conjunction.
The Bravo is better, Alpha ain't shit
Fanchen: every breath I take without your permission fuels myself esteem
If this was a show, he would be the character everyone hates, but still wins every popularity poll.
Bakugo Katsuki seasons 1, 2 and maybe 3. I am sure some people here know what I am saying.
Basically bakugo
@@sirreaper3067 I knew someone would say bakugo
I was about to say Bakugo haha
@@Rui-wk2eb Bakugo smells like caca
“What everyone wants is a hero, but what everyone *needs* is a villain”
A Hero Can't Exist Without Villains
@@sam-sp5zk Roger Roger
You forgot to end the quotetions.
A hot but honest take. Appreciate it
@@anaalina5964 i gotchu
The most dangerous troll is a troll that can back up his own trolling
Damn right
Yeah. Like that one time I got pissed at someone calling sharks murderous beasts so I spent over an hour looking for credible sources. They never replied, I wonder why?
True
wasn't a troll, dude was really packin
Those are the most important trolls
Crazy thing is, people are actually just attacking him and being toxic towards him for literally NO reason. All that Fanchen said was that the rendition had room for improvment.
People somehow saw it as "lmao this shit is ass delete it rn" and began to hate him and calling him names for no reason at ALL. He even admit, he didn't mean anything negative by it, he was just saying that there was room for improvement, and that he should have put more effort into the play before uploading it online.
Remember kids, don't hate someone just because you don't know 'em!
Finally someone with some brains and common sense to understand this
And the worst thing of all is that just a guy who like hentai unironically even admit that fanchen wasn’t even the bad guy afterwards and he just got heated
i feel like if you imagine this as a conversation it’s so normal. like: “what did you think of my playing” “yeah it was alright, room for improvement tho keep on playing and practicing” fanchen didn’t insult his whole bloodline and curse him to 100 years of torture for uploading an ok performance, bro just gave his opinion and proved he had the experience to know what he was saying.
@@agingerredhead9380 even so, not all criticism should be taken too personal either, these people are acting like they’re gonna always see toxic ppl in the internet
Nah, he said it was mediocre without going into detail. Indistinguishable from a random troll comment you see under every such video. You just choose to read it as a positive comment because if what happened afterwards.
The fact that he was good at it, does not change that. People are just defending this guy because he "won" in the end, and people like to be on the winning side, no matter how that side actually behaves. If you're good at something and you go on TH-cam mocking people who aren't as good as you, that is apparently acceptable to a lot of people here, because you "win", so they will side with you.
Even though they all would have condemned that exact same comment if he HADN'T bothered to put up a video.
This whole comment section is kind of depressing, honestly.
Everyone: "Can you do something to fix your superiority complex?"
Fanchen: "My superiority works just fine."
Fanchen: "But I *am* superior."
It's not a complex. It's JUST superiority.
@@raeishimura hence they say that Fanchen Superiority works just fine
It's not complex. It's just simple.
"Superiority complex? I find it quite simple."
He's like a rich anime character who humiliated the main character and he's actually very powerful
To the score of Rush E
seto kaiba irl
dio
No he's like when the Mc becomes even richer and humiliates the rich guy who humiliated him
Just like _Seto Kaiba_
“Man Calls Out Commenter, Lives To Regret His Decision” - Dhar Mann
hahaha exactly
@Low Tier God eat dn?
@Low Tier God are you just going around posting ltg copy pastas? if so its awesome
This is a god tier comment
so you see ...
you know what's even better ? The two of them + another piano playing couple collabed and played Rush E. Iconic.
Plot twist: This was just an elaborate way to promote both their covers
Woahh big brain time, that would have been sick
It all make sense now...
@Low Tier God what are you going on about?
@@Minecraftguns It's the type of person you just scroll past, I think they're crazy
@@boomboom2644 understable
This is what actually happens when the villain that trained for his entire life doesn't get a$$-plowed by the power of friendship.
😂
I really want some watchmojo typo video with title "top 10 villains that actually didn't fucking lost cuz of some stupid power of friendship"
lmfao this is one of the most relatable comments I’ve ever fucking read
@@ujjwal7297 kumo desu
yes brother
The chances on someone on the internet actually responding to a “I’d like to see you try” is slim…. But never Zero
But... but I've been saying "I'd like to see you try and walk" to disabled people all this time
"I'd like to see you try"
- some blind dude
Me beating the world record of minecraft potatos to back up my trolling:
@@cana0 Careful Techno doesn't hear you
@@friend4596 beyblade
Bro said no offense, its ok
it’s not that deep i really think people like that are better than the *holy your an ultra pianist* he’d only stay at the level he’s at if everyone told him that but if you get people that tell you something is mediocre even if it’s not it just instills this burning feeling of wanting to do better and actually pushing yourself to the limit
If you're an asshole but can back it up, you're not an asshole, you're just Tony Stark.
Here before it blows up
He’s the 1% David Goggins mentioned
Holy shit hes iron man
.
Underrated comment right here
Wouldve been so funny if the hentai dude commented “mediocre performance, no offense”. And then just uploads his version of the song which is 50x better
that would've sparked such an epic rivalry
@lord z00mer and its just a repeat until they perfect the impossible version
In the end they work together to put play the third pianist who played better then both of them but when the three unite the play the impossible version and grab a pizza together
@@prodbykaji they would eventually combine forces like a megazord to master the song.
This is basically every episode of Dragonball Z
I love a good “the villain actually wins” story every once and a while
I prefer'em
i love them
That's the best kind of story!
I mean everyone knows he's a prick so is it really a win?
@@PikminandOatchi but he did make a better cover of Rush E
2:28, I forgot about the era of youtube which is now on instagram. The cesspool never ended, it just shifted
"This sucks"
"Sure, then I'd like to see you do better"
"Ok"
*Proceeds to do better*
@yes is that Candice?
Carl the Pooh is the perfect pfp for this comment's tone
@@w_ldan what's ligma?
@@TomasM30 who is joe
@@lolbosss deez what?
Unironically, I think we NEED more people on the internet that can harmlessly talk shit and back it up. Definitely entertaining.
We need to be LIKE those ppl. well I tried long ago but i suck at piano.
Edit: bruh you changed ur comment
We don’t, that would make the comments even worse.
Pretty mediocre comment, no offense
@@kjapa2880 Was it? I'd like to see you try. So come on, give us an awe-inspiring performance.
Fanchen wasn’t a bad guy, and you can’t change my mind.
I was there when it happened.
Man imagine how the "mediocre guy" feels. He's like the child in the middle.
WAIT! FANCHEN ISN’T MEAN! On the channel that posted the so-called “mediocre” Rush E, Fanchen supported him on his newest video. He is a supporter of their channel.
@@KFP_Fanboy yeah, he literally said no offence, and later even gave criticism like why everyone hating on him, he seems like a socially awkward guy
@@de1isa That wasnt really constructive, also no offence but your opinion sucks. See, it changes nothing.
@@loglogic7846 no offense but let me quickly say something offensive
@@HercadosP tbf that isn't a racist statement
Fanchen, the og uploader, and another piano channel uploaded an "8 arm rendition" of RushE with all of them that slaps. The og postwr and fanchen are on good terms. This story has a real happy ending
Fanchen isn't the villain, he just reminds us all that we aren't the protagonists
This is actually a incredible way to put it goddamn.
We aren't the protagonist in other's stories except only our own.
Bro is just here to make sure we stay in check 💀
"Bitch, why you acting like you aint the unnamed side-character?"
@@manic_8620 we're all the unnamed side character
Plot Twist : Fanchen & Just A Guy Who Likes Hentai are the same person with different accounts, hustling for marketing their stuff.
*Takes notes*
@@StormsandSaugeye ✍✍✍
well if that's really the case then that's genius
Interesting
Ngl probably true I've seen it before
I totally get his ideals. His thinking was that "if I were going to spend the time to learn something and show off my skills, I would be more refined." And then when people called him out, he did it
I think he just wanted attention.
@@chairjacker I think you just want attention
@@Mugeh for saying it how it is? You got me with the no u xD
@@chairjacker i really doubt he made a comment to some random vid and expected to get called out then for that argument to blow up then for someone like Charlieto make a vid on it lol
@@minatonamikaze7504 that sounds pretty reasonable except for the last part, he could've 100% just wanted attention. No way he expected THIS attention but, I'd imagine he did want attention to some degree.
Serious question though. The guy asks why would people dislike this. And he responded with essentially "eh i just didn't think it was that good" what's wrong with that
Fanchen said in the description of his own video that his definition of mediocre is that it has room for improvement, and he and the creator of the original video even teamed up to make a video together.
From the guy's perspective though, it seemed like Fanchen was being an ass. The guy commented on this video to say that he was sorry for making assumptions, and Fanchen responded to this by saying that he and the guy were "basically married now" in the description of his TH-cam video.
Well it's because mediocre isn't always "essentially" what you said it is. Mediocre does mean average, but it often has a more negative and condescending tone than if you said okay, fine, 5/10, or not good not bad. It comes of as, "it's not as good as it you think it is/it's extremely underwhelming" . Again, those sayings can mean the same thing as "fine", but they sound like the person doesn't care about other people's opinions.
Fr I also hate that people dislike him for giving his opinion. People saying he was being a jerk and should have given constructive criticism don’t make no sense. Using that logic you would have to say why it’s good and can’t just give a compliment by itself
As a competitive pianist, this guy is good. Like really good. For non-music people it’s almost impossible to feel the sheer magnitude of the difference, but his technique is incredibly clear.
A someone who was raised on piano and music, I think it would be fair to call myself an "intermediate" musician, though to be fair I basically "gave up" at about 15-16. Though I have some talents, I've never considered myself special. What I've come to learn is that music (and the arts in general) is very intangible to non-artists/musicians. Laymen tend to percieve it as some sort of arcane wizardry rather than simply a skill that one improves at over a lifetime.
The first guy is very obviously a hobbyist with maybe a few years under their belt and the second is a serious musican who's probably been playing since childhood. It's like comparing someone who's been studying a language for 2-3 years to a native speaker.
I think many have experienced this phenomenon, when you're someone who practices hours a day and you walk outside of your bubble into the laymen world it can be very jarring. You're baffled by the things you see people being impressed by. It's not because you're an asshole, it's likely because you've spent a lifetime being told you're not special yourself and being made to iron out imperfections that are very glaringly obvious to you.
I think there's similar things such as chess, gynamastics, etc. People don't really understand the levels of self-criticalness those worlds can leave you with, you're basically getting heavily roasted starting at age 5. It can actually be unhealthy.
How can you dislike this? I don't see anyone else actually playing it.
You’re a competitive pianer?
pianer????@@adrian4565
@@omeletplayz2731Good bait, I want to see these guys play it too 😂
"Man who likes hentai challenges pianist, lives to regret his decision"
Dharr man moment
Someone please narrate something obvious!
Was bout to say sum bout Dhar Mann but other beat me to it.
Babylon Bee, The Onion, and The Hard Times better be covering this
So you see
"So I said 'Hit me. Hit me!'"
"And what happened?"
"He hit me."
Ur pfp though..
@Fred Brayan no one feed the troll
WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR HAND
Are you patched up now?
@@jblazerndrowzy Oh…. 🍳(｡_｡)🍲
Being a classical musician for around 1 millisecond, I can tell you that this is how a lot of classical musicians treat eachother from what I’ve experienced - especially in professional settings.
“Guys think I can’t play Rush E and calls me a liar” this sounds like 2008
Oh god it does
Those kinds of titles are still around.
indeed
Thats why its so good
That what makes it so good
Dhar Mann wouldn’t be happy hearing about this story
This needs more likes LOL
DHAR MANNS TAKE ON THIS WOULD BE SO INSIGHTFUL
Guy makes fun of pianist instantly regrets it
Mean bully on TH-cam shows haters what he can really do!
@@federalbureauofinvestigati5549 What happens next is shocking
This is like when a guy claimed to be more ripped than you and better at guitar and you say prove it and he comes over a claps your mom and becomes step dad.
LMAO WHY DOES THAT ACTUALLY WORK HAHA
He claps your mom AND your dad who left you
Biggest plot twist ever
Oddly specific
oddly specific
his attitude is what drives classical music to be one of the most prestigious arts, if people aren't elitist about skill there won't be as much drive to pour your life and soul into practicing
Fun fact: This dude needed 2 weeks for it, 1 for preparation and 1 week for learning it. This guy has a lot of talent.
He also has an insanely good WORK ETHIC.
This comes from practicing and hard work throughout time, no other way.
Did you think this was funny? Corny boy 🤡
Yea but didn’t he have like a lifetime of playing piano under his belt tho lol
@williammarchand253 that is irrelevant though. To his skill level. The original video piano player was really was A Mediocre to him.
Age never was the focus of the argument. It was about skill.
@@timexyemerald6290 Yeah the person got what they asked for, they couldn't fathom what mediocre is because they were a non-player. Had to sting because it also reveals that their musical taste and ear was atrocious.
Glad they got pwned LMAO
Fanchen was only using 2% of his power. He could've played the whole piece but unfortunately, his piano wouldn't even be able to withstand the onslaught.
His piano would have caught on fire from the friction of his fingers.
Steel piano
His piano would’ve exploded
It would’ve burst into flames from all the friction
@@jamesalexander5559 damn. Didn’t even read ur comment and basically said the same thing as I just wrote
Hentai enthusiast: You’re not that guy pal, trust me, your’e not that guy
Fenchen:
Pffffft
Engrish hard :(
Y'oure no't th'at gu'y p'al. There, i fixed it for you
is this what it looks like when an AI tries to be relatable
For a second i read it as what Mike from breaking bad said to Jesse the "your not my guy"
got recommended this after 2 years in bro is still one of the biggest Villian i seen
“If youre an asshole noone will respect your skill”
*every fine artist in history laughing*
cough cough stanley kubrick
*choke cough cough* Gordon Ramsay *cough*
*physically dying* every comedian ever
_literally already dead_ Wagner says YEET
cough cough *hitler*
Jesus Christ.
This guy is the worst fear of anyone who says "Do it better then, jerk" to tackle criticism.
I think it’s worse to have someone who gets told “Do it better than, jerk” and then decides to dedicate 5 years of their life to learning an entire trade just to do it better.
@@JacobNintendoNerd99 yes but if you look at the comments, he did it in about a week
@@1404kevinmicik Yeah, but that implies he was already good at piano. That’s not as terrifying to me as “Someone said I couldn’t do it, let me take a college course and master the trade so that I can prove them wrong”
@@JacobNintendoNerd99 the dedication lol
@@JacobNintendoNerd99 has that ever happened
Gotta give Fanchen credit, starting up drama makes more people inclined to watch his video. He secured significantly more views compared to had he just posted the video and said he was inspired. Hopefully he does come across nicer in the future, as he is certainly capable of providing really good criticism because of his skill.
fuck being nice. He should become a full time villain.
this is like a 4chan story becoming real
Also, the hentai guy was annoying. Constantly spamming "How can anyone diswike dis!" across videos is incredibly stupid and adds nothing to the conversation.
And now Charlie made him more famous! Fanchen is smart af for going about it this way.
Yeah it's a great strategy. Hating on some random pianist who just wanted to upload his rendition of a piece of music, so that he can make him feel down about it and piss people off so much that it gets people to come to his channel. I should use that. I have a lot of young pianists to shame rn.
1:44 I forgot how insane this song was
*Enters Comment Section*
"Pretty mediocre, no offense."
*Refuses to elaborate*
*Plays better version*
Fking bradd
That's what giga chads do.....
He elaborated plenty lol
@@justkidding3390 sorry i thought bradd is mean chad
People have different ways of elaborating their argument. Fanchen's way of elaboration is more effective in backing up his argument than just spouting out some musical theories that will fly over most people's heads.
*Breaking news* : "Worst guy you know is actually sick at piano"
i get the reference,i absolutely do
This comment has 1k likes and one reply
@@krisby3939 When tf did it get 1k likes?!
Haha, big like tiny reply haha.
This looks like an Onion headline
There’s a reason certain “stereotypes” exist about obsessive pianists.
And classical musicians in general, they're often incredibly talented. But the problem is, they know it.
@@cevcena6692 I don't think that the "talent" is the problem.
Like penguin said, when it comes to piano most people only know about Mozart, Bach, I would add Beethoven and the last guy/girl being crowned by the general media as the new wonder of the current generation.
Those talented classical musicians don't get that much acknowledgement outside of their own turf, in fact they reminded me of chess players, lot of talented people, but people only care about Kasparof, Fisher and this young guy I forgot the name.
But this is what you get when you're into things that aren't that popular.
@@cevcena6692 "But the problem is they know it". Huh? I fail to see how it's a problem when someone knows they're good at something. They know their worth.
@@kebiwoni Makes them come off as arrogant to others
@@kebiwoni there is knowing your talents worth, and then there’s acting like because of that talent, they are superior in every way to everyone else who isn’t talented at that thing too, which is what the first guy means when he says “but the problem is they know it”
i remember getting this videos recommended (Franchen's) and thinking "cool title wonder what happened" and then proceeded to learn the lore and it was amazed! one of the bes things to come out of the internet
I think Fanchen is just a serious piano player. Hence, the harsh criticism. He is actually not a villain, but more like a person seeking a rivalry.
Yes and calling something mid is not really the worst thing you can do
Ikr Franchens comment was rlly tamed
I'm a musician myself. Being good at a instrument is hours of pratice until the insanity. The first guy has what it takes to make a good Rush E version. He just needs to pratice until he's sends a incestal letter to his sister, and is into feces.
@@Skoopyghost Wolfgang reference is diabolical 😂
@@jackhawk8997 I'm glad someone caught the reference.
Props to "Just a guy who likes Hentai" for being the catalyst on invoking Fachen's skill to play Rush E. Less knows and less appreciates.
I think the "just a guy who likes hentai" is Fachen. This would be a plot twist of pure madness from that lad.
@@gabriel- don't pls don't
Fan should not have that high expectations..
@@vibhav6551 I'm not a fan, mate hahaha I'm just imagining the possibility since this is internet, right?
@@gabriel- I was joking
Haven’t you read any manhua. His name is basically fanchen, he probably said courting death before posting the video
If you put his talent into perspective，he probably genuienly thought the first performance was mediocre instead of intentionalky trying to be an a-hole
Yeah I didn't even really see it as him being an asshole either.
Everybody keeps saying "he should have offered tips"
How the hell is he going to give him tips in a comment section like that lmao
@@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916 Plus he wasn't even talking to the performer lol, he was responding to someone asking why people didn't like the video. Someone who genuinely spends their time wisely isn't going to explain to some random.
He wasn't an asshole, just an arrogant person that can't read the room
@@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916 it wasn’t a real time convo. He had ample time lmaooooo especially in his first comment
@@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916 Not to be the guy that says "just" to everything, but...
He could just tell him what he could improve on, or maybe worded it differently when he first wrote the comment instead of coming off as an asshole.
*see K. Kawai piano*
Yeah he’s gonna destroy them
Fanchen is the anime character whom everyone hates because of their personality, but becomes popular after they reveal some kickass ability in a fight
like levi,jotaro,bakugo am i right?
Anime cartoon
@@istiaquemahmudsiam3719 what who tf hated levi?
also add kageyama from haikyuu
@@bunny.ribbit he was hated before he went kickass on them titans
This is some isekai manga shit on school magic tournament arc
You almost can't even be mad at him. he actually backed up his trash talk and put his money where his mouth is.
What trash talk? He was just giving criticism.
Correction "trash talk" Mr K.G.B... Don't revive The Soviets btw
@@k.g.b.1150 someone didn’t watch the video 💀
@@thomaspena1945 Piano is a extremely technical instrument, pianists give criticism to other pianists all the time unless the piece was redefined for hours
@@TheCardboardB_andit33 so u also didn't watch the video? Because calling something mediocre isn't criticism, you need to actually SAY what they should improve in
This man had the unbeatable bluff: one you can backup. Respect, he can go about it any fucking way he wants because he can back it up.
Honestly, yeh. Maybe he's trynna get to him to in a weird and brutal way, get him try tory harder cuz he sees potential in him. I've seen techniques like that used before.
@@rock4glory713 too people that practice piano that’s actually being nice most of them probably would started shifting on him all day even then franchin still thinks he can polish it even more to him it just seems like a normal comment
@@ihatenagi ye I figured. I've done a lot of music stuff and I honestly think piano players and clarinet players are the worst. I'm not saying all just in my expirence and that seems to be the stereotype.
@@rock4glory713 when you play piano you have to be blunt or the person won’t be able to improve
@@ihatenagi same goes with most things
reminder, mediocre doesn’t mean bad, it means not exceptional.
ofc, not being considered an exception is considered an insult.
and thats probably what fanchen meant
but generally, the word has earned a lot of negative connotation recently, the word mediocre is treated as just shy of bad, not as middle of the road as its supposed to be
“Guy thinks I can’t play rush E and calls me a lair”. I love how far this went all because of a comment hahaha
Bro I didn't even notice that! Thanks lol
@@martycyst6797 lmao that made my night thanks
Absolutely he's a lair
Many wild animal are hiding in him
Yea
And his channel grew 10x because of it
He even ended up going on to collaborate with the guy who initially uploaded the video, and squashed the beef with hentai guy. Dude won on all sides.
Edit: jesus, stop arguing in the comments, we about positivity and letting shit go in this bitch😂😂
Do you have a link?
link
Dude had a whole redemption arc
or just search Ultimate Rush E! (8-hands with @Fanchen and @litening5826!)
Hentai guy deserves to be shamed. It's always a cop out for losers like him to say that people can't criticise if they can't do it in the first place. Hope he goes off himself
TH-cam bully mocks an aspiring musician, he doesn't live to regret it.
-- Mhar Dann
@@monmoymaahdie3177 Lmfao
The bad ending
i would love to see a reverse Dharr mann channel that only has bad endings
We’re not just telling stories, *we’re telling the truth*
That feeling when Mr. Hentai found out Fanchen was good at piano must have been how the devil felt when Johnny played the fiddle
Mans literally turned to an anime protagonist over a TH-cam argument
Lol.
hehe, someone with the same thought. 2 years difference tho
More like antagonist
you got me
More like the anime villain
I think that he is not only a great pianist, he is also a damn good marketeer, the way he built hype for the video was unreal. I think it was all on purpose ngl.
Probably was just stalling as he was working on it in the background.
Either that or he's tired of super common comments that's a recipe for cheap upvotes
@@dagroseren as if the comments shitting on them havent become the exact same thing
@@ckopen7192 It has. I wish I could set don't see this comment anymore, so any comment htat's 90% alike is removed forever :P
@@dagroseren thatd actually be a pretty cool feature
Fanchen: You're not that guy
Hentai guy: Are you that guy?
Fanchen: Absolutely!
He is not just that guy, he is *THE* guy.
@@sunium5814 fr
Best meme for this
Underrated comment
@@sunium5814 spy kids tier
I got no problem with people who can back up their trash talk
Let's be real, Fenchen would not have obtained that level of attention on his video had he been all nice and lovey dovey in the comments. He handed out an L and took a W....such is life.
if he was just being nice and said: I also did my own version of this, ppl would put it as self advertising and not watch it LOL
Primal instincts
Meh. Still can’t play the original version of the song.
0/10 Would not hire for child’s birthday
The man set himself up with the one sole thing he's really good at lol
@@list9016 maybe but negativity always sticks out more than positivity unfortunately. I mean out of all the hundreds of positive comments, Fanchen's 1 negative comment is what everyone gravitated to.
Charlie has such a diverse lexicon but he doesn’t know the word rhetorical
true
No, but he does know how to say "butthole" 27 different ways.
I would say expansive vocabulary, not lexicon. Lexicon refers to all the words in a language.
I prefer the analogy though, I hate it when I forget words even though I know them
@@BlakouttheMM
See, that is a very good point, however, you can argue that Charlie’s lexicon consists of all 27 ways you can say butthole in polite conversation.
The lexicon of buttholes.
"Then do it. Stop talking and DO IT"
*10 haunting photos taken right before disaster*
th-cam.com/video/nHbvgUxGJco/w-d-xo.html
I’ve heard those exact same words on a vid of police showing up to a mechanic shop thinking they heard gunshots but it was just actually his car
@卐LouielolBruh卍 When you try to troll, but it doesn’t work.
@@coronavirus553 the troll worked because you replied to it
The problem isn't his opinion on it. The problem is his approach and attitude. If he went up to a pianist in the subway and called him mediocre, he'd probably be told to fuck off or even punched if the dude was unstable.
The internet allows you to say major shit without any real repercussion