Yep, she is a good "speak only when she needs to speak" kind of judge and she NEVER tiptoes around when she's making her point. Everything about her screams good judge.
Even if the mother in law doesn't like the defendant.... that won't change the fact that she admitted to planning, setting up, and covering up this murder. Why are these questions even being asked. She freely talked about it like it was a regular day.
@@ButterCookie1984 if she’s not guilty wouldn’t she look fearful? In fear that she might be found guilty? I know if my husband killed his ex, I got knocked up with his bff’s baby and then he divorced me from prison and started to try to take me down with him I’d be pretty scared especially since my attorney’s can’t even figure out how to play audio recordings. 😂😂 sorry I took this to far!! I think she heartless and calculating and disgusting.
@@betty-janececile5214 A court reporter doesn’t type on regular keyboard…Their keyboard has a whole system and can type a full word with one or two buttons, that way they can keep up.
Just in case the judge in this trial is reading this super rude uncalled for comments, I like your hair and even if I didn't, I understand that it has nothing to do your ability to oversee this case. The judge has done great in this trial! Why be rude when you don't need to?
I really like this Judge, She is a great Judge and i wish we had more Judge's like her around the world. I love her hair, she is beautiful and well mannered. She is very fair and good at her job !! The Defense Attorney is all over the place!
Yes, I agree... really both attorneys have seemed unorganized and asking worthless questions. Its making this trial unwatchable. I would pray for a delay with all the virtual stuff going on... It makes it harder to hear and follow. You cannot get a good reading on people via screen. I pray all these people going to trial during CV19 are getting extra good jurors.
What the cluster F**k of a defense is happening here?!!!!! I’m no lawyer, but don’t you think you should, you know, PREPARE a little before the trial!? 🤦♀️
Grandma Cobb is a smarter lawyer than the accredited lawyers. She' not answering the questions that she doesn't like the phrasing! Informing them she can't speak for Chad...Answering "I don't know " when there is no way she could KNOW something. I love how she answers in her own thoughtful time as well.
Can't believe that someone went to all the trouble of leaving the still shot of the lampshade for 15 minutes at the beginning of this. Academy award for editing? I mean really.
I can’t imagine being a juror and trying to focus on the evidence with the defense fumbling all of the place. I forgot there was even someone on the stand for a moment because they were more worried about the tapes than cross examining.
I’ve seen many trials and no lie this is the most unorganized defense I’ve seen! Trying to figure out in front of a jury which lines to play, the lady reading lines out loud to him, he turns around and asks her “what is next?” “No I don’t want to read that” Embarrassing! He’s all over the place!!
42:00 what is the sense of wearing a mask, when you dont even cover your nose! How “smart” is this attorney actually? Or is it ignorance?! And he clearly does it on purpose! See here: 1:24:00 At other times he even starts walking around WITHOUT mask: 1:02:00
So what if she asked for vodka or had the stronger liquids.....alcohol doesn't make u lie it reduces your inhibition meaning it allows u to tell the truth easily which she did! I.cant.stand women who use children as a pawn in their child custody cases! If u don't agree with her u don't see the kids ajd only when u dance to her tune will she let u ha e the kids! Or lime she said - "on the same page"
It sure can make you lie. My ex was a huge liar when he was drunk. So bad that it was disgusting listening to the stories he came up with that he supposedly did, that weren't true.
It's the fact she's being caught in lies and claimed she only gave her 1 drink when even those few excerpts proved at least 3 drinks, which does make a difference. The state only played what was good for them but the defense was able to bring in other scenarios and time lines that leaves reasonable doubt. This is a hung jury at Best if not a full aquittal. They should have charged her with what they could actually prove. Cindee Cobb was just as hands on as Erica was & is believed by many to have been the person to make that call after her testimony & Chad's.
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@@veegee2526 helo veegee. Yes im safe. Stay in small town. Boardering transkei. But people are very carefull wearing their masks. Tks for caring. Ouma Cathy s.a.
I'm 16 minutes in & this defense attorney is making himself look bad for being a little rough on Chad's Mom. She can't help what her son did & anyone would do as much as they could to protect their only son. If Erika was 1/2 the reason Ashley was killed, she should be held responsible as Chad was Btw I've seen comments abt the judges hair, IMO I think she's a very pretty lady & her hair looks great☺
She's guilty for making the call & he knows it, the internet is lit up with her lies and ommissions about this call made & then she couldn't remember leaving her house and going to get Mike Stephanko, who also wouldn't help his buddy cover up the crime. This woman is guilty and watching what she's saying very closely. He should have ripped her apart, just as the state talks to Erica's current husband. He was the only credible witness and would not help Chad after he heard he killed Ashlee so I don't believe he would cover for Erica if she was guilty.
I think this is a mother trying to help her son and blaming the woman in his life for the issues. He commented the crime but wants to blame someone else.
@Superior Trading Why didn't she give that tape to police 4 years earlier ?? This stepmother knew her stepdaughter was involved in Ashley's murder. And yet she accepted her grandchildren to be with this women. I.m.o. just so she and her son could see the children. They (Chad, Erika and Grandma) were so selfish. The children were not a priority.
I think Erica Stephanko talked Chad into it..... He had it all in his mind to begin with but she Fed His Fire.... it's on them both. But she gave him that goodie good stuff and whispered sweet Death into his ear. Again, his Thoughts he Spoke out (prob while high/drunk/both) to Erica and she just kept feeding the flame.... jealousy and her own past childhood problems. That's why she doesn't show much feeling. Can't wait to see the jury's decision. Hope I'm awake and don't miss it. Feel sorry for her kids but let her rot in jail. She's the master mind. Even with a Psychopath like Chad. Which should let y'all know how powerful Erica is if she can control someone like Chad. Both life in prison
I think Chad’s mom is a very effective witness; her pauses before answering, break whatever rhythm the defense might be attempting. Her answers to his leading questions are honest but phrased in a unique way that throws him off kilter.
Cobbs mom s testimony is so annoying. Her answers are so slow and reluctant that it makes her sound like she is trying to hide something and change the facts. If I was a jury member I would not consider her testimony factual
She's lied so many times between her state and cross examination. This woman made that phone call & Erica knows it & so does the atty. I wish he would have ripped the mommy apart.
12:35 why didnt the prosecutor object against this very leading way of questioning of the defense attorney?! He asks leading questions/remarks a lot of times. And when you dont object against it, it only gets worse. Imo the aggressive tone of questioning of the defense attorney is also meant to influence the jury. I.e. to give some idea she is hiding something. I think it is just not okay what the defense attorney does.
She is!! She has to have her going to Mike Stephanko up pulled out of her cause she lied about it to the state and said she asked him how it was going & he replied, not good, not good at all & that's all that was said.
Who is the person in the orange hoodie an pants that is sitting by the cop am behind Erica? Does anyone know if (s)he is a juror? Has a badge on but at the same time that could be for anything. They pulled a phone out earlier when the judge was talking an seems like Erica keeps staring at them and making eye contact. I think that if it's a juror then should not be sitting that close to the defender. I love how Mrs. Cobb answers the questions. She don't hide that her son did anything. She says I can't answer for him. She tries to keep her answers short even while explaining them she shut the defense down a few times. He literally sat there looking at his notepad a couple times after she responded an it was like he didn't know what to ask or say after her responses. It was like he didn't expect the answer she gave. Which he should have known her answer because he is suppose to ask questions he already knows. I'm using my uncle's tablet so I'm on his account. My name is Steph. If someone answers this for me I appreciate it. Just put for Steph before you answer so if we see it on the notifications we will know who it is form he is using his account on his computer and phone an he has some kind of thing that if for video calling an all and he is able to get on you tube as well. I appreciate the response tho. It's bugging me who that person is. I would not think a juror would be that close to her or sitting like they are. Kinda like not paying any attention to anything swinging around in the chair sitting up. Looks like they having a confo together as well a few times. Especially when Mr Cobb was ok the stand well on video giving his testimony. Thanks once again. I hope this makes sense. I tried to write it as best as I could. I can't tell if the person is a male or female which is why is out (s)he at one point it looked like a male one part of the video they leaned up am you could see the face kinda. Which made me think it was a juror because they are trying to hide the face it seems.
During testimony of detective..pictures of front seat of Ashley’s car found in the corn field...shows the domino pizza box insulator on front passenger seat...no mention if pizza was in box. Did not look disturbed...Ashley appears to be ambushed right when she exited her car.
@@kabbystevens5167 ugh that makes me think she saw him and got out of the car knowing it was him. So, if she saw/noticed him why did she get out. Dang it!!! That just sucks. Poor thing.
@@trina4205 ..During chads testimony..he explained he wore camouflage jacket and pants and dark makeup on his face and hid behind the tree, also she was tazed in the back...she must have never got very far from the car once she exited the car...ambush definitely.
@@kabbystevens5167 oh I see. I had a hard time focusing on his testimony between my adhd and his going “above and beyond” by answering way to much and then being way to vague so I got caught up in the comments... I thought I heard the important parts. I’m listening to the vids on 1.75x speed now so I should be good now lol. Thank you so much for the information though! Oh and the camo belt, right I just remembered 🤦🏼♀️ guess I should connect the dots... you’re smart!! ❤️❤️
@@trina4205 ...yes, the detectives testimony too..he walked through all those items found in Chad and ericas backyard on the table...along with a scuba knife and zip ties. I too listened at a faster pace 2x speed mostly while doing tasks around the house....very interesting but sooo many questions still. Like why did he place duct tape on his jacket...was it to hold something onto his jacket? Or to keep his jacket tight so not to be able to get grabbed...so many questions.
It is the woman Desiree that the Judge keeps talking so nicely to about understanding each other’s signals. She cleans the courtroom between each witness and when the lawyers change at the podium. I am sure she works for minimum wage and is happy to have a job in this economy. I would hate for her to read all the rude comments about her from some of you people.
I would love to see her on the stand, but good defense counsel would not advise it. She was very know-it-all-ish during her pre-trial hearing a few days ago. I think her personality would come across very poorly with the jury - either she adds nothing to her case or makes it worse.
If the transcript is available and ready and heard during the trial.... why wasn't it entered into evidence with the recording (which toooo many people [newspeople /lawyers/etc....]say it was a "PHONE CALL" ) But if they use the "Transcript" in the court room with the recording, why is it the jury can't have the Transcript during their deliberations? Why didn't the lawyers (P&D) asl to have that entered into the courts evidence?
They can have the transcript only of what was played for them. they got the entire recording but need to listen to it to hear the entire 3 hour's 1 minute.
The defense said that the transcript says something different then the actual recording. A lot of trials I've watched the transcripts can't go back with the jurors. They want the jurors to listen and interpret it how they hear it and not by what someone else has typed and interpreted it to say.
Anna LilysMom She’s complicit, knew what was about to happen and didn’t do anything to stop it. As a matter of fact, she was THERE the entire time up until Chad used the knife on the poor girl. She made the call using a fake name to lure the girl to deliver the pizza. She followed Chad to hide the evidence... The tape sealed her fate. At least that’s how I see it so far, and the trial is not even half done.
Cindi has to do too much 'thinking' to respond. She is trying to think of the 'right' answer. I believe it was Cindi, not Erika, who made the phone call.
Poor mother what a lot to contend with . She is thinking 💭 about what’s best for her grand children.. given the facts that their parents are totally not fit to be parents! I’m a law advocate i work in law crown and magistrates courts every day.. working with victims and witnesses! A lot of the time the crimes where years back and many victims or witnesses suffer from from trauma affecting the memory, the mother is answering correctly taking her time not to lie or make northing up ! It’s easy to watch and criticise but when you’re in court .. it can be very intimidating if you’re not used to it! Let us remember the mother is not on trial she has done nothing wrong I hope that Erica .. The defendant is found guilty because she is!
Amem Curvy! She def looks like a person in charge, if not, the actual murderer. Like hubby was sopose to have her unconscious for wife to do zip tie. ONLY thing bothers me abour that theory is that, It seems she was already engaged in relationship with Michael?? Any thoughts??
@@suzannemix2528 I hear you hmm 🤔.. Maybe to get Chad completely out the picture.. so could move Mike in and move on with her life with new hubby 🤷🏽♀️🧐
@@suzannemix2528 I guess you don't know what a tazer does or listened to Chad Cobb clajm what he did to Ashely, on his own. Sad to see that even people who claim to be involved with the process don't listen to the testimony but automatically jump to guilty. It's a good thing you're not part of our legal system.
She seems like a good judge , fair and competent.
I like her!
I'm loving this judge! !!!! And I watch a lot of true crime!
Yep, she is a good "speak only when she needs to speak" kind of judge and she NEVER tiptoes around when she's making her point. Everything about her screams good judge.
Yes I absolutely love her!
Even if the mother in law doesn't like the defendant.... that won't change the fact that she admitted to planning, setting up, and covering up this murder. Why are these questions even being asked.
She freely talked about it like it was a regular day.
I don't envy the job of the defense attorney. He's grasping at straws.
Erica Stefanko looks so unbothered. She doesn't look remorseful at all.
She's not... I think she's evil
Maybe she is not guilty.
@@ButterCookie1984 How so?
@@ButterCookie1984 if she’s not guilty wouldn’t she look fearful? In fear that she might be found guilty? I know if my husband killed his ex, I got knocked up with his bff’s baby and then he divorced me from prison and started to try to take me down with him I’d be pretty scared especially since my attorney’s can’t even figure out how to play audio recordings. 😂😂 sorry I took this to far!! I think she heartless and calculating and disgusting.
@@trina4205 Possibly. You do have a good point
My goodness, I have this on 1.75x and this defense attorney still sounds like he’s talking so slowly!
For the court recorder she can only type so fast
@@betty-janececile5214 A court reporter doesn’t type on regular keyboard…Their keyboard has a whole system and can type a full word with one or two buttons, that way they can keep up.
He isn't a very good attorney...
Just in case the judge in this trial is reading this super rude uncalled for comments, I like your hair and even if I didn't, I understand that it has nothing to do your ability to oversee this case. The judge has done great in this trial! Why be rude when you don't need to?
WHAT R U REFERRING TOO?
We always comment on silly things like this. It cuts the tension of such a horrible murder. Don’t get too upset about it, I’m sure the judge won’t.
So true
I agree....hair is not the most important thing in a Courtroom. This defense lawyer on the other hand is bothering me.
@@bonnienelson7373 Me too
These have to be the two most unorganized lawyers I have ever seen!
I really like this Judge, She is a great Judge and i wish we had more Judge's like her around the world. I love her hair, she is beautiful and well mannered. She is very fair and good at her job !! The Defense Attorney is all over the place!
She is perfect …. But her hair 😅lol
She seems alright, but I find her hair to be blinding! It is also unprofessional to have bleached out yellow hair, it's a distraction.
Ironically, Chad didn't have the stomach for the Marines but he had the stomach to kill his child's mother. Go figure!!
I don't know how the jury is gonna follow this defense. He is so unorganized and all over the place. So much dead time.
Yes, I agree... really both attorneys have seemed unorganized and asking worthless questions. Its making this trial unwatchable.
I would pray for a delay with all the virtual stuff going on... It makes it harder to hear and follow. You cannot get a good reading on people via screen. I pray all these people going to trial during CV19 are getting extra good jurors.
What the cluster F**k of a defense is happening here?!!!!! I’m no lawyer, but don’t you think you should, you know, PREPARE a little before the trial!? 🤦♀️
A downloadable transcript of the phone call recorded by Cindee Cobb would be very helpful.
Grandma Cobb is a smarter lawyer than the accredited lawyers. She' not answering the questions that she doesn't like the phrasing! Informing them she can't speak for Chad...Answering "I don't know " when there is no way she could KNOW something. I love how she answers in her own thoughtful time as well.
Can't believe that someone went to all the trouble of leaving the still shot of the lampshade for 15 minutes at the beginning of this.
Academy award for editing? I mean really.
"Streamed live on Nov 17, 2020"
Almost like it was a live stream or something.
Relax.
It starts about 15:00.
Apparently Law and Crime lost their editing people.
I can’t imagine being a juror and trying to focus on the evidence with the defense fumbling all of the place. I forgot there was even someone on the stand for a moment because they were more worried about the tapes than cross examining.
The defense attorney is dramatic with his questioning. Is he trying to intimidate Chad's mom.
49:15 her watching her case fall apart right in front of her 😂😂😂 sorry, these people are supposed to be saving her!!!
I love how the defense is trying to paint making a secret recording of a suspected murderer somehow a BAD thing. LOL That mom’s a BOSS👊🏼❤️
How is it that this grown ups cant follow a simple rule of using initials for minors. I lost count of how many times they had said it.
The judges hair alone made me click. And you too.
That is true!
Nope. I'm watching a murder trial not a beauty pageant.
Ahahahahahah YOU RIIIGHT!
Who wants to bet she changes that color once she sees herself on these videos?
@@veegee916 she should *tone it
I’ve seen many trials and no lie this is the most unorganized defense I’ve seen! Trying to figure out in front of a jury which lines to play, the lady reading lines out loud to him, he turns around and asks her “what is next?” “No I don’t want to read that” Embarrassing! He’s all over the place!!
42:00 what is the sense of wearing a mask, when you dont even cover your nose!
How “smart” is this attorney actually? Or is it ignorance?!
And he clearly does it on purpose! See here: 1:24:00
At other times he even starts walking around WITHOUT mask: 1:02:00
All other courts currently allow the lawyers, witnesses, judge to not have the mask on while speaking so speech is clear. What is the issue¿?
The horror
So what if she asked for vodka or had the stronger liquids.....alcohol doesn't make u lie it reduces your inhibition meaning it allows u to tell the truth easily which she did!
I.cant.stand women who use children as a pawn in their child custody cases! If u don't agree with her u don't see the kids ajd only when u dance to her tune will she let u ha e the kids! Or lime she said - "on the same page"
It sure can make you lie. My ex was a huge liar when he was drunk. So bad that it was disgusting listening to the stories he came up with that he supposedly did, that weren't true.
It's the fact she's being caught in lies and claimed she only gave her 1 drink when even those few excerpts proved at least 3 drinks, which does make a difference. The state only played what was good for them but the defense was able to bring in other scenarios and time lines that leaves reasonable doubt. This is a hung jury at Best if not a full aquittal. They should have charged her with what they could actually prove. Cindee Cobb was just as hands on as Erica was & is believed by many to have been the person to make that call after her testimony & Chad's.
Hi everybody. I think the Judge her hair is beautifull. Im 68 grey and would luv to hav a head full of hair like her. Enjoy program liefies ouma Cathy south africam.🤗
Hi, Adri!
Hope you are staying safe and healthy! 🇺🇸🇿🇦
@@veegee2526 helo. Im ouma Cathy. Adri is my daughrer im staying with in Koksat. KWA Zuku Natal. In pensioner was in old age home after my husband oassed 11jrs ago. Using her Utube. Liefies ouma Cathy.🤗😘
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How do u know it’s her hair she could b wearing a wig they can look really real I’ve seen so many ppl with wigs
@@veegee2526 helo veegee. Yes im safe. Stay in small town. Boardering transkei. But people are very carefull wearing their masks. Tks for caring. Ouma Cathy s.a.
I wonder if this defense attorney ever got another client again. He is horrible
Defense attorneys, it's a dirty job but someone's gotta do it
This judge has a huge Steelers logo tattooed on her back which matches her hair and robe perfectly.
LMAO!
I laughed so hard at this comment BECAUSE you took the words out of my mouth 😂😂😂😂😂🙏🏼❤️❤️❤️
I don't get it...
@@tyffehhh me neither
I feel uncomfortable hearing the attorneys whisper to each other
I'm 16 minutes in & this defense attorney is making himself look bad for being a little rough on Chad's Mom. She can't help what her son did & anyone would do as much as they could to protect their only son. If Erika was 1/2 the reason Ashley was killed, she should be held responsible as Chad was
Btw I've seen comments abt the judges hair, IMO I think she's a very pretty lady & her hair looks great☺
She's guilty for making the call & he knows it, the internet is lit up with her lies and ommissions about this call made & then she couldn't remember leaving her house and going to get Mike Stephanko, who also wouldn't help his buddy cover up the crime. This woman is guilty and watching what she's saying very closely. He should have ripped her apart, just as the state talks to Erica's current husband. He was the only credible witness and would not help Chad after he heard he killed Ashlee so I don't believe he would cover for Erica if she was guilty.
I think this is a mother trying to help her son and blaming the woman in his life for the issues. He commented the crime but wants to blame someone else.
100%!
@Superior Trading Why didn't she give that tape to police 4 years earlier ??
This stepmother knew her stepdaughter was involved in Ashley's murder.
And yet she accepted her grandchildren to be with this women.
I.m.o. just so she and her son could see the children. They (Chad, Erika and Grandma) were so selfish. The children were not a priority.
Was her verdict overturned or reversed? Is she out of prison now?
I think Erica Stephanko talked Chad into it.....
He had it all in his mind to begin with but she Fed His Fire.... it's on them both. But she gave him that goodie good stuff and whispered sweet Death into his ear.
Again, his Thoughts he Spoke out (prob while high/drunk/both) to Erica and she just kept feeding the flame.... jealousy and her own past childhood problems. That's why she doesn't show much feeling.
Can't wait to see the jury's decision. Hope I'm awake and don't miss it.
Feel sorry for her kids but let her rot in jail. She's the master mind. Even with a Psychopath like Chad. Which should let y'all know how powerful Erica is if she can control someone like Chad.
Both life in prison
Then when Chad was asked if he and Erica planned the murder of Erica he said no??? Cindee Cobb is his accomplice!
I think Chad’s mom is a very effective witness; her pauses before answering, break whatever rhythm the defense might be attempting. Her answers to his leading questions are honest but phrased in a unique way that throws him off kilter.
Cobbs mom s testimony is so annoying. Her answers are so slow and reluctant that it makes her sound like she is trying to hide something and change the facts. If I was a jury member I would not consider her testimony factual
She's lied so many times between her state and cross examination. This woman made that phone call & Erica knows it & so does the atty. I wish he would have ripped the mommy apart.
Can't believe the guy in the yellow sweatshirt is allowed a phone in there and is seen texting or recording wtf
12:35 why didnt the prosecutor object against this very leading way of questioning of the defense attorney?!
He asks leading questions/remarks a lot of times. And when you dont object against it, it only gets worse. Imo the aggressive tone of questioning of the defense attorney is also meant to influence the jury. I.e. to give some idea she is hiding something. I think it is just not okay what the defense attorney does.
Agreed
She is!! She has to have her going to Mike Stephanko up pulled out of her cause she lied about it to the state and said she asked him how it was going & he replied, not good, not good at all & that's all that was said.
Attorneys are allowed to ask leading questions when they are cross examining a witness.
I want to know how she has custody of ANY kids!!
Did she get ANY jail time?-- because he didnt do it magically by himself!
Thats what this trial is for, to lock her up. Hopefully
@@Nolypr_Gaming she's going...a long time hopefully
Do not like the Defense Atty's voice. Too emphatic. Like a big bass drum.
Time for the defense attorney to retire. This is one of the worst presentations I've ever seen.
Who is the person in the orange hoodie an pants that is sitting by the cop am behind Erica? Does anyone know if (s)he is a juror? Has a badge on but at the same time that could be for anything. They pulled a phone out earlier when the judge was talking an seems like Erica keeps staring at them and making eye contact. I think that if it's a juror then should not be sitting that close to the defender.
I love how Mrs. Cobb answers the questions. She don't hide that her son did anything. She says I can't answer for him. She tries to keep her answers short even while explaining them she shut the defense down a few times. He literally sat there looking at his notepad a couple times after she responded an it was like he didn't know what to ask or say after her responses. It was like he didn't expect the answer she gave. Which he should have known her answer because he is suppose to ask questions he already knows.
I'm using my uncle's tablet so I'm on his account. My name is Steph. If someone answers this for me I appreciate it. Just put for Steph before you answer so if we see it on the notifications we will know who it is form he is using his account on his computer and phone an he has some kind of thing that if for video calling an all and he is able to get on you tube as well. I appreciate the response tho. It's bugging me who that person is. I would not think a juror would be that close to her or sitting like they are. Kinda like not paying any attention to anything swinging around in the chair sitting up. Looks like they having a confo together as well a few times. Especially when Mr Cobb was ok the stand well on video giving his testimony. Thanks once again. I hope this makes sense. I tried to write it as best as I could. I can't tell if the person is a male or female which is why is out (s)he at one point it looked like a male one part of the video they leaned up am you could see the face kinda. Which made me think it was a juror because they are trying to hide the face it seems.
Most impt question is:::
WHAT happened to the pizza!!
🤔🤔 ( im a pizza lover)
During testimony of detective..pictures of front seat of Ashley’s car found in the corn field...shows the domino pizza box insulator on front passenger seat...no mention if pizza was in box. Did not look disturbed...Ashley appears to be ambushed right when she exited her car.
@@kabbystevens5167 ugh that makes me think she saw him and got out of the car knowing it was him. So, if she saw/noticed him why did she get out. Dang it!!! That just sucks. Poor thing.
@@trina4205 ..During chads testimony..he explained he wore camouflage jacket and pants and dark makeup on his face and hid behind the tree, also she was tazed in the back...she must have never got very far from the car once she exited the car...ambush definitely.
@@kabbystevens5167 oh I see. I had a hard time focusing on his testimony between my adhd and his going “above and beyond” by answering way to much and then being way to vague so I got caught up in the comments... I thought I heard the important parts. I’m listening to the vids on 1.75x speed now so I should be good now lol. Thank you so much for the information though! Oh and the camo belt, right I just remembered 🤦🏼♀️ guess I should connect the dots... you’re smart!! ❤️❤️
@@trina4205 ...yes, the detectives testimony too..he walked through all those items found in Chad and ericas backyard on the table...along with a scuba knife and zip ties. I too listened at a faster pace 2x speed mostly while doing tasks around the house....very interesting but sooo many questions still. Like why did he place duct tape on his jacket...was it to hold something onto his jacket? Or to keep his jacket tight so not to be able to get grabbed...so many questions.
The judge looks like shes going out clubbing with that mask!!
odd question but.....WHO IS THE KID SITTING BEHIND THE MONSTER (erica stefanko), IN THE MUSTARD YELLOW NIKE HOODIE???
I think it's mike Stefano her husband and chad's ex bud
Desiree. The lady who helps the judge clean the courtroom & podium.
@@tyffehhh its a dude...thats no lady...maybe he is a student
It is the woman Desiree that the Judge keeps talking so nicely to about understanding each other’s signals. She cleans the courtroom between each witness and when the lawyers change at the podium. I am sure she works for minimum wage and is happy to have a job in this economy. I would hate for her to read all the rude comments about her from some of you people.
WRONG it is a girl sorry
What’s on the photo she’s clinging onto?
Picture of her kids, the ones she took to a murder.
So will Erica take the stand? What you all think?
I would love to see her on the stand, but good defense counsel would not advise it. She was very know-it-all-ish during her pre-trial hearing a few days ago. I think her personality would come across very poorly with the jury - either she adds nothing to her case or makes it worse.
@@tyffehhh
Did she testify in the pre trial hearing? I didn’t watch that...
I don't think she will. But it would be nice to see if she did.
She is so guilty and so involved...
If the transcript is available and ready and heard during the trial.... why wasn't it entered into evidence with the recording (which toooo many people [newspeople /lawyers/etc....]say it was a "PHONE CALL" )
But if they use the "Transcript" in the court room with the recording, why is it the jury can't have the Transcript during their deliberations?
Why didn't the lawyers (P&D) asl to have that entered into the courts evidence?
They can have the transcript only of what was played for them. they got the entire recording but need to listen to it to hear the entire 3 hour's 1 minute.
The defense said that the transcript says something different then the actual recording.
A lot of trials I've watched the transcripts can't go back with the jurors. They want the jurors to listen and interpret it how they hear it and not by what someone else has typed and interpreted it to say.
Is he a public defender??
Erika is. A lush OMG 😲
This guy needs to go back to school.his very slow ang going over things we know.
Worst trial for a co conspiracy. Should be a good appeal basis.
I don't know what trial your watching but, the one im watching has her admitting to being involved with the murder.
@@vickiekasafirek9096 Exactly.
Anna LilysMom She’s complicit, knew what was about to happen and didn’t do anything to stop it. As a matter of fact, she was THERE the entire time up until Chad used the knife on the poor girl. She made the call using a fake name to lure the girl to deliver the pizza. She followed Chad to hide the evidence...
The tape sealed her fate. At least that’s how I see it so far, and the trial is not even half done.
She's going to walk.
@@pamelamorris3148 Walk? I mean ya, straight into a penitentiary.
Cindi has to do too much 'thinking' to respond. She is trying to think of the 'right' answer. I believe it was Cindi, not Erika, who made the phone call.
Naaaa
Poor mother what a lot to contend with . She is thinking 💭 about what’s best for her grand children.. given the facts that their parents are totally not fit to be parents!
I’m a law advocate i work in law crown and magistrates courts every day.. working with victims and witnesses!
A lot of the time the crimes where years back and many victims or witnesses suffer from from trauma affecting the memory, the mother is answering correctly taking her time not to lie or make northing up !
It’s easy to watch and criticise but when you’re in court .. it can be very intimidating if you’re not used to it!
Let us remember the mother is not on trial she has done nothing wrong
I hope that Erica ..
The defendant is found guilty because she is!
Amem Curvy!
She def looks like a person in charge, if not, the actual murderer.
Like hubby was sopose to have her unconscious for wife to do zip tie.
ONLY thing bothers me abour that theory is that,
It seems she was already engaged in relationship with Michael??
Any thoughts??
@@suzannemix2528 I hear you hmm 🤔..
Maybe to get Chad completely out the picture.. so could move Mike in and move on with her life with new hubby 🤷🏽♀️🧐
@@suzannemix2528 I guess you don't know what a tazer does or listened to Chad Cobb clajm what he did to Ashely, on his own. Sad to see that even people who claim to be involved with the process don't listen to the testimony but automatically jump to guilty. It's a good thing you're not part of our legal system.
Why is she acting like her kid is a golden boy? If a parent is an enabler they have a little bit to do with their predicament.
@@lizaw.7313 She’s not. She literally testified that her son is guilty but so is Ashley