How can anyone say that she did not help do this?She had a conversation with her ex mother-in-law, where she told her exactly what the plan was. She asked chad to do it, and he never said he could not do. So he did his part and she did hers. Her own words on the tape!
Agree 100%...just the fact that she made the call, left (the call alone, she knew what would happen). Painful to hear the doctor described what happened to her 😔😔...that's a person who gave brith to her daughter, fight it in court, with words but kill her!! All these years.
@@jessey141 - completely agree. I have to say when the dr. Was going over what happened to Ashley. Sounds so brutal. I hope they put her away for life. Think about it she was smart and clever enough to have his own best friend turned against him and start sleeping with her and have a child with her! That is a very manipulative person, controlling.
Actually if you go back and listen to Chad’s testimony, once GC was with his parents he had already started telling the detectives about her involvement.
One time when the attorney asks, "Is that fair?" Just respond, "No none of it is fair. Correct? Yes. Fair? No."😬 I don't why it bothers me so much he keeps doing that over and over.
I’m catching up on this trial and I’ve noticed the same thing...they’ve all been saying it like a broken record...”is that fair?” Even the judge! You’re right! I had just told my husband how annoyed I was right before I read your comment 😂
From the sound of her evil ways, I wouldn’t put it past Erica taking her hatred out on Ashley ... i feel like cobb was just a weak minded man and ashley was really the brains behind it.. once she got remarried he got mad and turned
ok NOW i know she is guilty, there is a question 37:03 listen to it and watch her face when he askes was these post-mortem or while she was alive.. the doctor said while she was alive, as soon as she said that the beast was remembering how it was done. GUILTY
No tears during the explanation of Ashley's death. Her face grimaces and reddens but no emotions I believe that means that the images disturb her but Ashley isn't a person to her. She doesn't have feelings for Ashley. That is harsh man. Her respiration is even and when they are just going over the names of the ligatures Erica goes back to normal. I think its an act.
Another possibility is that she could be having flashbacks of everything as it was enfolding/as it appeared to her the night of Ashley's murder 🎭 📽️🎭. 😥
I believe they both killed Ashley. This has to be done by more than one person. This is horrible what they did to this poor mama. I can't imagine how scared and terrified she must have been. I pray Erica gets life no parole. Justice for Ashley.
I don’t think Chad would have had any problem saying she helped him physically kill her if she did. Not defending her actions but saying that there’s no reason for him to hold back on that. She arranged this obviously to work most in her favor which it sadly did to some degree because she didn’t get life without.
I can't even imagine as each piece of evidence is being presented how she would be having flashbacks of everything as it was enfolding/as it appeared to her the night of Ashley's murder 😥 🎭 📽️🎭
Hi to u all just finished work , started watching the case early hours this morning as i live in Australia sounds like its gonna be another long day and evening , i can see today is going to be the same with Erica she knows everybody will have eyes on Erica and i can see Erica doing the same features she did yesterday putting another act on , but i believed we all can see right through her , i believed Chad would not be in jail if Erica didn't persist u can see she's the brains behind the whole thing even though Chad is just as guilty for killing Ashley , the sadist thing is their daughter is growing up without her parents one in prison for life and the other is deceased . i think its great we can watch shows like this , hopefully anyone thats out their going through a custody battle , sometimes things dont go the way they should but to kill one of the parents all to take the whole family u need to think because your hole life will be destroyed and your love ones are the ones that have to pick up the pieces and no one has the right to kill another person and if so they should be punished if Chad got a life sentence so should Erica as everyone that new Erica new she hated Ashley , Ashly friends were even concern about her welfare as Erica hated her so much. i do believed she needs to go to prison to think what she has done to her own children taking them to the crime and than chad goes to prison and hands her children to her best friend cause she couldn't handle them , more like Erica ran off with Chad best mate them poor children ,their life would of been around so much anger and sadness and Erica sits in court holding a photo of her children abit late to be caring when u were spose to be their mother not when u get court , sorry for going on having my pop corn and a large cup of coffee , so stay safe to u all...R.I.P Ashley..
@@kimbennett7738 I think she was strangled from behind. And that would make sense. Chad might not have wanted to see Ashlee’s face when he was killing her...
I don't get what the point is in the defense attorney worrying about the size of the clothes. That does not prove Erica wasn't there or that she didn't participate in the murder. And regardless if she was just involved in planning and she made the call, dropped him off and picked him up, she is guilty by law!!!
the beast was a big woman when the murder happened, she has lost a lot of weight since then. there trying to make out that she was this size to thin to move her. anyone can move anything when they need too. at any size.
@@bonnienelson7373 bonnie ive watched. And there is a lot of evidance against her. If im correct. Also i think??? She was convicted abtone pls. Ouma cathy.🤗
It’s like he’s not even giving the examiner any time to actually thoroughly read the pages to make sure they’re right he does lips one and then within a second flips another one and keeps flipping flipping how are you supposed to read one so many keys flipping like that
Most viewers seem to love it. I think she’s an excellent judge but would look more professional with a less dramatic style. I know I’m in a small minority. My excuse... I’m old, LOL
Other than Chad throwing her under the bus and her ordering pizza has any physical evidence been tied to Erica? They spent how much time on coroner report, zip ties and duct tape but any of her dna or fingerprints, something???
The audio recording of her admitting her role and the order of the pizza using a fake name so chad could meet the victim to commit murder: I would say beyond a reasonable doubt; She is guilty as charged
That's what I'm wondering. I hope she is not guilty cuz those kids will have neither parent! Why do people do this & not just walk away?? Do they REALLY think they'll get away with it??
@@hippiechick10956 yup, just that phone to me was bad enough...she would not go there if that call was not made. Plus makes a call for pizza and leaves before it arrives🤔....just a guilty and the man who killed her
You have to wonder why Cobb would say what he did... pretty selfish considering their children will now have to go into foster care if she is found guilty.
To beat someone, restrain them, taze them put on zip ties, they both had a hand in this girls murder. Not one person would have been able to do all of this plus beat her up and strangle her. Ridiculous human beings
I would not convict her. Not the popular vote based on comments on this post.. Everything presented has been circumstantial and Chad and his family have an agenda. GC has been coached in my humble opinion. Consider the source. My heart goes out to GC. I could be missing something but so far...not guilty. We shall see.
I was wondering the same thing. There were pictures of alot of blood in the parking lot. I dont know why they didn't mention the reason for all the blood.
Lord have mercy. Her name is Desiree and she is sanitizing everything. She is squirming because she is young and probably bored. But she is working, making a living and we can all be happy about that, given so many are out of work. I would have loved to have that job when I was her age!
I asked the same question on a different video she was in orange tho then an looked like a guy with the pants she had on an the hoodie. Erica was staring at her at one point in a different video. I thought she was a juror for a bit because of the name tag she had on. Glad someone else asked this question an there is a reply. And Lord I can't believe how many ppl got an attitude about this question. Ppl want to know because of how she is acting an also like I said in a different video ok girl is staring at her like she new her or something.
@@richardvaughan6289 It is very noticeable when she turns so fast in her seat to see the autopsy pictures. I questioned who she was too so thank you for your comment.
That poor lady she must have suffered before the end,so sad , hope justice is served!
How can anyone say that she did not help do this?She had a conversation with her ex mother-in-law, where she told her exactly what the plan was. She asked chad to do it, and he never said he could not do. So he did his part and she did hers. Her own words on the tape!
Agree 100%...just the fact that she made the call, left (the call alone, she knew what would happen). Painful to hear the doctor described what happened to her 😔😔...that's a person who gave brith to her daughter, fight it in court, with words but kill her!! All these years.
@@jessey141 - completely agree. I have to say when the dr. Was going over what happened to Ashley. Sounds so brutal. I hope they put her away for life. Think about it she was smart and clever enough to have his own best friend turned against him and start sleeping with her and have a child with her! That is a very manipulative person, controlling.
She is wholeheartedly responsible... She's evil
Poor Ashley may there be justice for her & her family 🙏😭
Actually if you go back and listen to Chad’s testimony, once GC was with his parents he had already started telling the detectives about her involvement.
Then why did it take 8 years to arrest her?
Wow she is really watching all the slides intently
Just like Joel Guy did
@@traceycheapmom1398 i hope prison is giving him exactly what he deserves...what a sick fvck!!!
She seemed genuinely upset while looking at a few of the photos. I hope she's not guilty or those kids will have neither parent. :(
@@bonnienelson7373 You are one of the good ....here are so much stupid comments.
I thought so too, creepy.
Just because you put someone in a collard shirt doesn't mean they're respectable.
Remember that the murderer took a dump on Ashley's grave. She did nothing to stop the other murderer and did everything to encourage it.
One time when the attorney asks, "Is that fair?" Just respond, "No none of it is fair. Correct? Yes. Fair? No."😬 I don't why it bothers me so much he keeps doing that over and over.
I find him a bit odd myself.
very true
I’m catching up on this trial and I’ve noticed the same thing...they’ve all been saying it like a broken record...”is that fair?” Even the judge! You’re right! I had just told my husband how annoyed I was right before I read your comment 😂
Fair enough? Makes sense? Got it? Very good.
And throw in the judges...”THANK YOUUUUUUU” 😂 I’m super annoyed by so many things in this trial hahaha🤷♀️ mainly, Erica’s face 🤮
Does this defense attorney ever have a point? So far i have seen none. He is just annoying.
I think the case landed in his in-tray and he's clutching at straws.
Those two are very evil
From the sound of her evil ways, I wouldn’t put it past Erica taking her hatred out on Ashley ... i feel like cobb was just a weak minded man and ashley was really the brains behind it.. once she got remarried he got mad and turned
I agree
Thank god that you are not a juror ...feelings are not facts
@@300sl5 shhhh no one asked
1000 % agree without a doubt
You mean Erica was the brains behind it.
By the way she reacts, it seems as if she at least saw some of these events
Agree or the pictures maybe prior to the trial.
She’s enjoying seeing it. She hated Ashley with a passion.
She is definitely not bothered by these images as most normal ppl would be.
This animal defecated on Ashley's grave. So what do you expect?
ok NOW i know she is guilty, there is a question 37:03 listen to it and watch her face when he askes was these post-mortem or while she was alive.. the doctor said while she was alive, as soon as she said that the beast was remembering how it was done. GUILTY
No tears during the explanation of Ashley's death. Her face grimaces and reddens but no emotions I believe that means that the images disturb her but Ashley isn't a person to her. She doesn't have feelings for Ashley. That is harsh man. Her respiration is even and when they are just going over the names of the ligatures Erica goes back to normal. I think its an act.
i do aswell, she is pretending to react with her eyes, but she isnt fooling anyone, she is acting for the camera i think
Another possibility is that she could be having flashbacks of everything as it was enfolding/as it appeared to her the night of Ashley's murder 🎭 📽️🎭. 😥
@@daisyladyklg8538 I highly doubt that. She defecated on the woman's grave!!!
I believe they both killed Ashley. This has to be done by more than one person. This is horrible what they did to this poor mama. I can't imagine how scared and terrified she must have been. I pray Erica gets life no parole. Justice for Ashley.
I don’t think Chad would have had any problem saying she helped him physically kill her if she did. Not defending her actions but saying that there’s no reason for him to hold back on that. She arranged this obviously to work most in her favor which it sadly did to some degree because she didn’t get life without.
I found it interesting, that Erika had taken over his business that he had started. Her and his ex best friend I’m sorry her new boyfriend!
She married that guy, his name is Mike Stefenko. They also had a baby. She got pregnant a couple months after Chad went to jail.
@@melodymyers8941 - exactly that tells a lot of her character.
Yeah, it seems Erica likes to manipulate and control everything. Even taking over the business with a new man. She’s all class, isn’t she...🙄
I think she is as guilty as Chad.
@@veegee2526she's trifling
She was more upset when GC testified!
Because she knew everyone was going to hear who she really is ! They always cry for themselves.
Of course, because GC was exposing her.
Stefanko needs to up her faking facial expressions game.
I can't even imagine as each piece of evidence is being presented how she would be having flashbacks of everything as it was enfolding/as it appeared to her the night of Ashley's murder 😥
🎭 📽️🎭
"In for a penny in for a pound" Justice for Ashley.
Defense has NO DEFENSE ✅
So is the defense going with the OJ defense?? If the clothes don't fit, you must acquit 😆😆
Hi to u all just finished work , started watching the case early hours this morning as i live in Australia sounds like its gonna be another long day and evening , i can see today is going to be the same with Erica she knows everybody will have eyes on Erica and i can see Erica doing the same features she did yesterday putting another act on , but i believed we all can see right through her , i believed Chad would not be in jail if Erica didn't persist u can see she's the brains behind the whole thing even though Chad is just as guilty for killing Ashley , the sadist thing is their daughter is growing up without her parents one in prison for life and the other is deceased . i think its great we can watch shows like this , hopefully anyone thats out their going through a custody battle , sometimes things dont go the way they should but to kill one of the parents all to take the whole family u need to think because your hole life will be destroyed and your love ones are the ones that have to pick up the pieces and no one has the right to kill another person and if so they should be punished if Chad got a life sentence so should Erica as everyone that new Erica new she hated Ashley , Ashly friends were even concern about her welfare as Erica hated her so much. i do believed she needs to go to prison to think what she has done to her own children taking them to the crime and than chad goes to prison and hands her children to her best friend cause she couldn't handle them , more like Erica ran off with Chad best mate them poor children ,their life would of been around so much anger and sadness and Erica sits in court holding a photo of her children abit late to be caring when u were spose to be their mother not when u get court , sorry for going on having my pop corn and a large cup of coffee , so stay safe to u all...R.I.P Ashley..
it sounds like Ashley was strangled from behind is that correct ?
G.C. isn’t the only child affected. Erica and Chad had two other kids after that. I wonder why Cindee doesn’t have them as well?
@@kimbennett7738
I think she was strangled from behind. And that would make sense. Chad might not have wanted to see Ashlee’s face when he was killing her...
Is it just me, or does the defense just seem like a disorganized mess?
Why wasn't any fingerprints taken from the duck tape?
Or DNA from the zip ties😔
I don't get what the point is in the defense attorney worrying about the size of the clothes. That does not prove Erica wasn't there or that she didn't participate in the murder. And regardless if she was just involved in planning and she made the call, dropped him off and picked him up, she is guilty by law!!!
Defense atty is pointing out that Ashley was a large woman, size XL-R..perhaps too heavy for Erica to drag?
@@daddysgirl5049 But the prosecution isn't even arguing that she did drag the body.
So fake in her emotions. She in her OWN WORDS SAID SHE DIDN’T FEEL BAD WHAT HAPPENED TO ASHLEY BIGGS!
the beast was a big woman when the murder happened, she has lost a lot of weight since then. there trying to make out that she was this size to thin to move her.
anyone can move anything when they need too. at any size.
is it me or does he sound like Nicholas Cage...kinda looks like him too in a way
Lol
My husband said the same thing
Yes he does
Who is “he?” The states attorney? Yeah, I can see that...
@@veegee2526 Yes States Att,
She is going to be popular in prison if you catch what im laying down
From the looks of her head( as of day 3 ) she's already made some new friends
From the looks of the bruise on her forehead as of day 3 she already has made some new friends
Is there evidence that she did it? I'm new to this case.
@@bonnienelson7373 bonnie ive watched. And there is a lot of evidance against her. If im correct. Also i think??? She was convicted abtone pls. Ouma cathy.🤗
@@kimberlymartin9026 I don't think that's a bruise on her forehead it's skin discoloration.
It’s like he’s not even giving the examiner any time to actually thoroughly read the pages to make sure they’re right he does lips one and then within a second flips another one and keeps flipping flipping how are you supposed to read one so many keys flipping like that
The judges hair tho...
And her rhinestone mask 😷
Brad Mondo is busy fixing quarantine bangs right now, but I'm sure he could squeeze her in.
Most viewers seem to love it. I think she’s an excellent judge but would look more professional with a less dramatic style. I know I’m in a small minority. My excuse... I’m old, LOL
@@gagagoose2878 I didn’t say she’s a bad judge. Not at all!
@@zanpsimer7685 no, I know, it’s just the hair, lol
Other than Chad throwing her under the bus and her ordering pizza has any physical evidence been tied to Erica? They spent how much time on coroner report, zip ties and duct tape but any of her dna or fingerprints, something???
Agree
The audio recording of her admitting her role and the order of the pizza using a fake name so chad could meet the victim to commit murder: I would say beyond a reasonable doubt; She is guilty as charged
That's what I'm wondering. I hope she is not guilty cuz those kids will have neither parent! Why do people do this & not just walk away?? Do they REALLY think they'll get away with it??
I think by Erica luring her to the spot where Ashly was murdered makes her very responsible for the murder. I think she will get life.
@@hippiechick10956 yup, just that phone to me was bad enough...she would not go there if that call was not made. Plus makes a call for pizza and leaves before it arrives🤔....just a guilty and the man who killed her
Sad
Life is pretty simple, follow the 10 commandments and what happens at night will come about in the light
Any pictures of the victim before she was killed?
Google her name.
If Ashley was killed in Wayne County, why was this case tried in Summit County?
You have to wonder why Cobb would say what he did... pretty selfish considering their children will now have to go into foster care if she is found guilty.
Oh yea it's a lot better to let someone who helped commit murder to remain free. SMH
Chad's parents are raising the children
The children live with Chad's parents and have for 8 years
No they won't they have been with his parents for almost 8 years
This prosecutor needs to calm down he doesn’t even allow enough time for the question to be answered. He has taken way to much ADHD medication today
To beat someone, restrain them, taze them put on zip ties, they both had a hand in this girls murder. Not one person would have been able to do all of this plus beat her up and strangle her. Ridiculous human beings
Has Erica been called to testify??
No. They are still on the prosecution’s case.
judge i dont think your earrings are big enough, ⭕⭕
Such a “ Mickey Mouse “ set up!!!
I would not convict her. Not the popular vote based on comments on this post.. Everything presented has been circumstantial and Chad and his family have
an agenda. GC has been coached in my humble opinion. Consider the source. My heart goes out to GC. I could be missing something but so far...not guilty. We shall see.
What's their agenda?
I’m right in the middle as of now, but the mil conversation if fairly damning.
@@wilsal2485 And that phone call placing a bogus order to Dominoes pizza that lured Ashley to her death.
She’s is definitely the one that ordered the pizza, which makes her as guilty as her husband
Was she or wasn’t she stabbed?
No...she was tazed, beat & then strangled.
I was wondering the same thing. There were pictures of alot of blood in the parking lot. I dont know why they didn't mention the reason for all the blood.
Does anyone know who the guy in the grey sweatshirt is sitting to the right behind the accused squirming like a bored child in a room full of adults?
That's a girl and she's with the cleaning crew. She sanitizes all the seats, podium etc when the jury and or everyone leaves the court room.
Lord have mercy.
Her name is Desiree and she is sanitizing everything.
She is squirming because she is young and probably bored. But she is working, making a living and we can all be happy about that, given so many are out of work. I would have loved to have that job when I was her age!
@Debbie K 😂😂😂 gotta love how attached people get to strangers in these trials.
I asked the same question on a different video she was in orange tho then an looked like a guy with the pants she had on an the hoodie. Erica was staring at her at one point in a different video. I thought she was a juror for a bit because of the name tag she had on. Glad someone else asked this question an there is a reply. And Lord I can't believe how many ppl got an attitude about this question. Ppl want to know because of how she is acting an also like I said in a different video ok girl is staring at her like she new her or something.
@@richardvaughan6289 It is very noticeable when she turns so fast in her seat to see the autopsy pictures. I questioned who she was too so thank you for your comment.
judge seems to want to do everyones job plus hers mind your business
What are you saying karen? This judge is efficient and chill
Judge is the administrator of this court room meaning she makes sure this case goes smoothly as possible.
Something a Karen would say.
@@MaxHarden ha. After Girty wordy's reply I actually scrolled up to see if she was an actual Karen.
@@klarawinterain6101 Funny!! So did I
horrible using a zip tye yukk what a terrible murder (all murders are horrible tho )