One of my favorite sayings about mental health and specifically anxiety is: Genetics load the gun and environment pulls the trigger. You can can be predisposed to mental health battles but grow up in a healthy atmosphere and never experience these issues. On the other hand grow up in chaos and you’re likely to manifest some sort mental health issues. Take care of your children folks…love them, support them give them the tools that you didn’t have. Glad Joe and Theo addressed this topic, it is often swept under the rug.
Very true what you are saying. I got the bad end of the stick so I know for a fact what you are saying is true. P.S like you said love your kids. Teach your kids.
This for real helped me because I was worried I was the only one that had this same issue with my antidepressant and also thought I was just a pussy for a while and couldnt handle sobriety. I went off antidepressants for 3 years and ended up going back on them after getting PTSD. I think If I hadnt have gotten PTSD i might have been able to stay sober its a shame how fragile we can be as humans because otherwise im the strongest person I know and I know people dont give me or others the credit they deserve. Long story short Theo is a real one for this. Love this man
I could remember several years ago, I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Was actually diagnosed with cptsd. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. This is something that really need to be use globally to help people with related health challenges.
Congrats on your recovery. Most persons never realizes psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives. Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here.
YES very sure of Dr.alishrooms. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.
I was horrifically depressed since childhood. It was relentless. I assumed it would ultimately end me somehow. About twelve years ago I randomly accepted the offer from a friend of a few doses of mushrooms. I did them two consecutive nights alone. First night was pretty mild. The second night? Wow. I saw my depression from every angle, realized much. Next day: depression totally gone. Never came back, never coming back. It's like it's a forest far away I can remember, and could probably find again with enough effort, but it has zero impact on anything in my life or mind. They honestly saved my life and improved it immensely. I never did them again, either. I wish there was a good, organized way to administer them to people who would benefit from them.
It’s crazy because the majority of people like him who are suffering are genuinely some of the most unique and amazing people to be around. ❤ Stay strong 💪 brotha.
It's really hard to start exercise but once you do it's something to look forward to every day/week and the improvements are noticeable thought not super significant at first
@Jim big facts before i went to mexico i probably lost atleast 10 pounds was doing 300 situps a day and atleast 150 push ups a day along with atleast 100 reps with weights and riding one of those weight wheel bikes for 30 minutes, then went to mexico for 4 days and i didnt work out the entire time and didn't continue when i got back cause i was already feeling great, cant imagine what id look like if i kept up with that routine know i wouldnt be 300 pounds with a beer belly lol
Really glad to hear Joe say he has another perspective on depression now. Heard him so many times say "Just get up and workout and you'll be fine". Paraphrasing but to that effect. Appreciate him recognising the truth about true mental illness.
People tend to forget were supposed to active. No one is meant to be sitting on a couch. Unless of course. But our bodies are wired to move and think.. when you break it down, all of us are supposed to be in shape or somewhat fit. And I mean all of us
Theo hit the nail on the head with his explanation of depression and SSRIs, for me at least! I just switched from Zoloft to Wellbutrin earlier this month (I was having annoying side effects), but an SSRI basically keeps your head above water, and creates a baseline for you. You still have to do the work to maintain your physical health and even your mental health to an extent, but without it, it’s like there’s an anchor tied to your leg that makes it 10x harder to stay afloat.
@@jess_n_atx Oh I know haha. Bupropion is the other name for it; I just wanted to try out something from a different class. I’m just speaking for when I *was taking the Zoloft.
@Ayo if you knew anything about him you not only wouldn’t write this but you couldn’t write this logically, he is amazing and you shouldn’t get butt hurt about it just because nobody called you amazing lol
I've never been diagnosed but I clearly have constant anxiety. And it makes sense when I'm told stories after my mom passed in 2021. Being smuggled into a country at night on a boat, doesn't help. My mom lived with anxiety all the time. It's so obvious now. She was always on the move, couldn't stay still, had to be doing SOMETHING all the time. She hated staying home too. She would push me and my brother so much. Eventually my brother started studying medicine and shit and was telling my mom what she was dealing with and to see a doctor. She tried to change but ultimately stayed in her ways until the end. Love her so much. Best person I've ever known, hands down. Best mother I could've hoped for. But yeah, she passed down this anxiety. I'm always thinking too much and it lead to being diagnosed with depression, taking meds, etc. No wonder I can't stand still either. Boredom gives me anxiety.
Same boat. I have to exercise for hours a day. Been an athlete my whole life. Loved gym class but always had anxiety from as early as I can remember. Exercise and intense breathing is what helps me
Haven't taken any meds but I know for a fact that I have either depression or bipolar..or both. It helps to talk to someone...but you gotta get over that weird feeling to talking to someone. I feel like this is me just talking to myself...but I really hope everyone that reads this feels amazing about themselves. You're all you got.
For some reason you are experiencing anxiety. You seem unsure as to why. I hope to elucidate. You chose stressful words as descriptors. Your mind creates it for you, and mine for me as well. Your mind creates whatever you expect it to. It's a prison and/or a palace, a prisoner and/or a prince.
As an older adult, I learned a valuable lesson. I saw this in myself and many others. If you are faced with a problem that you don't know how to solve and don't have the tools or knowledge to solve it, you will become anxious. If you stay in that situation day after day, you will be trained to immediately become anxious. Think of a teacher demanding homework or testing on subjects that weren't properly taught. Or a boss or client who are unable to explain their needs but will hold you responsible anyway. Once in a while, it happens, but if it's every day, you have to change the dynamic. Get away if you can't fix it. This isn't good for you long term.
Just seeing my neighbor on and off of it different weeks, it seemed a lot worse when he was on it. Not a doctor but at some point in your life you didn't need them , like Joe says exercise is a huge factor.. and it's not like "if I feel like exercising" you need to exercise 5 days a week
i had suicidal depression and all mental health disordersand it was extremely painful. probaly more painful than a kidney stone and it was chronic problem. my depression completely went after after doing an elimination diet of meat + bread only. i reintroduced plant foods and still dont have depression. i believe the trigger was from either hershey special dark chocolate, chocolate milk, or fruit sugar. i was consuming alot of sugar during the time
I’m really glad to hear Theo be so open about his depression and taking meds. As well, to hear that Joe has changed his outlook on mental health disorders from a weakness of character or will and discipline to no longer believing that. Time and time again I still battle with that belief in my head, that I have depression and anxiety because I’m weak willed or I’m just not doing enough. It’s the shame that comes with this illness , and all it does is prevent you from getting better. Glad to hear Joe has changed his outlook.
I still believe much of depression can be significantly improve by being disciplined, Watch Andrew Huberman podcast on the AMCC region of the brain, it’s the hub for many many neurotransmitters, And it literally gets bigger by engaging in behaviours that take discipline. Disapline improved my depression significantly, I had force myself to do things i would have rathered not doing. And no, you’re weak for not having discipline, It’s a learned skill, Just like climbing a mountain is a learned skill, Not being able to climb doesn’t make you less valuable than anyone, It’s okay.
Dude my mom went through some heavy heavy trauma while she was pregnant and i have THE worst anxiety, i worry so much just how she does and i fight the feeling cause i know thats now what i want to feel, oh man it sucks dude
I love episodes like these that shine light on depression and anxiety. Anxiety made me drop out of school, I didn't know it was anxiety at the time, but every time I was there, I would get super nauseous and would have to run out of class to the bathroom often. Even till this day, when I'm with my girlfriend I still anxiety vomit often. I'm currently taking anti depressants and anxiety meds and it makes me feel normal.
if there is 1 thing that theo isnt, he isnt a liar. Even if he has to say it in a joking way to take the edge off of what hes saying, he'll always tell you the truth.
I was diagnosed with anxiety and depression when I was in my 30s and it makes alot of things make sense for why I was the way I was in my younger years. I've been prescribed medication and sometimes even prescribed medications that would create worse effect when working with one another. Like your guest said , it's like a constant battle throughout the day. I can still do what I have to , but over time it does take alot of confidence to push through. That's why exercising is so important because it gives me a sense of confidence and that would make me narcissistic, but the narcissism is to combat the depression. That's me tho. Thanks for the information. 😁
Psilocybin saved my life. I was addicted to heroin for 15 years and after Psilocybin treatment I will be 3 years clean in September. I have zero cravings. This is something that truly needs to be more broadly used in addiction treatment.
Please does anyone know where I can get them? I put so much on my plate and it really affects my stress and anxiety levels, I would love to try shrooms
Psychedelics saved me from vears of uncontrollable depression, anxiety and illicit pill addiction. imagine carving heavy chains for over a decade and then all of a sudden that burden is gone. Believe it or not in a couple years they'll be all over for treatment of mental health related issues.
It's only one way to look at it. Humans all have such different experiences that this is one valid way to see it out of many. It's important to ask for help when you need it.
@@millanandrew can you not see how real Theo is? Read in between the lines: the jokes are just padding reality. Dudes def got demons he has to face on a daily bases. As do we all.
@@FrankYammy he lies in half of his stories so how is milan wrong. Big fan of Theo but you can see some clips where you can tell he’s making it up as he goes along so if you cant tell you’re either stupid or too young
I’ve dealt with Anxiety my whole life, it’s a horrible thing to live with. You have to calm your triggers, working out , cold showers, meditating , and journal seems to be a bandaid on the anxiety .
Anxiety, from my personal experience, is not something you get rid of. It's something you learn to mitigate and live with but it will always be there. I've gotten panic attacks where the trigger was the idea that it's possible for me to have a panic attack. Once you have one you're more likely to have another. It's a never ending cycle. Learning coping strategies is your best defense against them. Getting diagnosed with them was a great thing for me because I learned that I wasn't in fact dying and was actually dealing with something that thousands upon thousands of people deal with everyday. Having the ability to go "I'm having a panic attack right now, let's just get through this and it will eventually stop" is a great tool to have in your toolbox in the fight against anxiety.
Thank you to both of yall! Theo hit this on the nail. Im 2 months off my ssri and im struggling hard. Ive been exercising and working hard but it doesn't get me to where i feel "normal". I hate taking meds but im struggling after my wife passed. Maybe i should go back to my dr and start taking paxil again. It definitely helps me i just start feeling better and think i dont need it. Again, thank both of yall.
I’ve never done ayahuasca, but shrooms made me go from being suicidal to being straight up happy. I take them every 2-3 months, and they’re generally much more effective than SSRIS for my depression. They also are the best drug I’ve ever taken for migraine prevention, and I’ve tried everything from anti-seizure meds to Botox. It’s amazing how effective certain psychedelics can be for an array of medical issues
@VTComps... Daily migraines, just moved to a place I knew no one, bad marriage, wasn’t working due to trying to get disability so I basically had no life, and I already had chronic depression beforehand. So yeah, life sucked.
Got diagnosed by the VA during rehabilitation with PTSD, ADHD, Bipolar 1, manic depression, suicidal ideation, anxiety, sleep disorder, and substance use disorder. As someone like this I can relate to Theo in so many ways. Theo is a badass man. Love that guy.❤
The VA has done more harm to me and other services members than I would’ve ever thought possible. Hope you get the help you need, even if it’s outside of the VA. Bless
Wow. Great clip. Totally know how that feels when you get that drop. Strangely I was the only person in my family who ever had anxiety. I think it’s due to childhood shit. Taken me years to get to a point of managing it as best I can. Still get the odd drop, but mostly good now. Thank you for this clip guys. 🙏❤️
I was on generic prozac, I can say that it does work. The short time I was on it, I noticed that the small things didn’t bother me. Stayed on for a year then decided to wean off. I didn’t feel it was right to be on medication. I can definitely get behind genetics and environment playing a role in bringing out anxiety. My mom is definitely why I am the way I am. But I love her and recognize it wasn’t on purpose. I too use exercise as a way to stay in check.
Sometimes we feel like we're alone in our struggles but then you talk to people and find out that we all struggle. I think it's really important for Joe and Theo to talk about these things so people can realize they're not alone.
Mental health issues can be absolutely genetic. Neural connections are formed through traumatic experiences which literally rewires your brain and gene combinations pass this down. You’ve got a huge nerve running from your brain to your gut, heart and lungs which can heighten emotional responses. I have a Psych degree and been teaching for nearly 20 years and what Theo said about alcoholism and his shirt analogy is fucking profound. You’re a treasure mate 👍
“If someone’s always tickling you, you’re always going to feel tickled. Even if they are tickling you with words” -Theo Von Truer, deeper, funnier words have never been spoken. Love you Theo ❤
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
One of my best experiences in my life was doing lsd and writing a paper on my interpretation of God and how the universe works, it was amazing and i got an A in the college class of comparative religion
Joe is like that supportive cool uncle that i never knew i needed but i watch him on youtube rather than hangout in real life. His clips always bring me entertainment, knowledge and even in this one a little bit of peace of mind seeing as he understands how messed up anxiety and things of that nature can be. I swear these videos are like a therapy session sometimes. Thank you for having this platform and being such an awesome guy Joe 🙏❤️. I can imagine a friendship with you would be extraordinary
Mental Health is REAL! I like when Joe has guests on that discuss mental health, from his friends to former or active military. It needs to be talked about more.
Thank you Joe and Theo just hearing you guys kick it and talk helps alot of us escape reality for just a minute and lets is know we aren't the only ones feeling some type of way. Much love 🍻
When Theo talks about his internal battle when he is off his SSRIs, it really sucks, but that's a side effect of withdrawal from the SSRIs that takes months to years to subside. They're so hard to get off. Just like cigarette withdrawal makes you anxious and angry, SSRI withdrawal makes you feel super depressed.
SSRI's and sports (specifically running or BJJ, but anything really), are a great combination. The sports help take away all the bad energies and anger, and the SSRI just helps getting through the day/weekend without contantly thinking about something stupid you did at work, or some presentation you have on Monday. That was spot on.
This conversation is so real, so relatable, so intriguing and so raw. I linked this to my wife to point to exactly how I feel in some situations and SSRI. I've been taking the same as Theo for the last 6 years and I find it near impossible to taper off. It's really great to hear such an authentic point of view and to know that I'm not the only one that is dealing with this. I mean, I know I'm not, but hearing him talk about it in so much detail that mirrors my feelings in such intricate detail, it was really an "uh huh!" moment for me. 2:18 resonated with me to the core. Thank you very much for sharing Theo.
I resisted being on meds for years and finally started taking an SNRI a month ago and I can tell you it really helps. My main problem was generalized anxiety disorder and I have definitely felt MUCH less anxious overall. It's only been a month, so I haven't even reach the full therapeutic effects yet. What I'm saying is it can really help manage symptoms and you owe it to yourself to not suffer.
Anxiety is horrible you feel shortness of breath when in a room with a few people , your heartbeat increases , leg starts shaking, you cant look people in their eye when communicating with them
People that don't have clinical depression will never understand what those of us that do have it go through. People just can't understand that physically painful aching at the center of you that comes outta nowhere. If they've never experienced it they put it in the same catagory as, just feeling bummed out, or sad. But for some of us it's a total lack of meaning, and motivation. A joyless world where nothing has meaning.
100% agreed especially if it’s been the same from childhood to adulthood where all you know is not enjoying anything and feeling like every basic activity that is you trying to start your car when your gas tank is on empty.
Yeah it's the same thing with ADHD. People can't understand the physical discomfort/pain when going through a task. Then call us druggies for getting on stimulants, it's ridiculous.
For many mental disorders e.g anxiety, it has a lot to do with the individual’s environment as-well as genetics. Meaning, if your family has a long line of anxiety, you’re likely to develop it IF your environment exposes you to anxiety inducing scenarios.
I’m really happy to hear Rogan a lot more open minded on this stuff. I’ve started taking SSRIs and was very hesitant mainly due to the stigma around it. I want to be tougher and be able to be proactive in taking care of my mental health, but when you’re really in a rut it’s hard to gain motivation to do anything. I’ve already noticed a huge difference in my outlook on life and feel a lot better equipped moving forward to take care of myself, not allow myself to overthink too much etc. I’m on a low dose so hopefully I can stop taking them at some point and move forward with a better mindset.
We'll, I can confirm that anxiety is hereditary, my father had it real bad. Myself and my 3 son's have all had to seek help at one point or another. Intelligence is also a factor, we all have IQs well above avg. But my father's was 165 and Mensa tested and his anxiety was debilitating, seems that because we can wrap our heads around more stuff than most, we can find more things to worry about. Anyway we are all doing OK, life's good 👍
I used to take lexapro for depression, suicidal ideation, then quetiapine for substance abuse depressive disorder. Those drops in emotion, sudden rage and drastic changes like that started because I tried to stop the meds. But I continued being off of them and stood that way cause I realized it was making it worse than before I took them, while I was on them daily though, I felt like happy but for no reason. Then I started doing shrooms the correct way and man was that the best decision I could have taken (not encouraging people to take them, it’s my experience) but yea the difference being that shrooms made me understand and see the ‘why’ I was in a bad mental space, and made me see it in a different light. I’m now off of the things that made me the worse version of myself
SSRIs made me comfortable with living a shltty, sad, depressing, life . SSRIs are a bandaid fix to anxiety and depression and should be last resort after lifestyle change, therapy, exercise, and other ways of natural healing. Shrooms should be prescribed for depression and anxiety not these pills that can make you fat and content with being a depressed bum. Great comment man
@@spencerrichmond5845 Been on them for years and they've drastically improved my productivity and general state of mind. Yes, you still need discipline to workout and eat healthy along with the SSRIs. It's important to improve your general health and circumstances to your best abilities, and I was able to do this due to a baseline "levelling" from the pills. I do not hit the dramatic lows I did before I took them. These pills do not work for everyone, though. To the OP: Make sure you're tapering off this medication correctly. Any attempt to stop "cold turkey" may shock the system and contribute to the mood swings you've been experiencing.
Sometimes I think people are taking videos when they have there phone points my way and people talk to me to see what I smell like and hear conversations think people are talking about me but there really not
When I took a "hero dose" of shrooms a couple years ago; near the peak of the trip where it became overwhelming I started watching TH-cam for a bit. I watched a clip of Theo on his podcast and as I watched him the only words that came to mind were things like "friend, trust, safe." I felt a strange, very real feeling that Theo was a good person, a friend that I could trust. It genuinely helped calm me down and made the experience more tolerable. That experience definitely began the process of dealing with my depression, finding meaning in my life and becoming far more self aware. Though it got worse before it got better. When I describe the experience people interpret it as just a "bad trip." I think it showed me exactly what I needed to see, a lot of what I'd been running from.
It’s good to see that Joe has come around on his “man up” take to mental illness. Nobody knows the true depths of internal hell until they’ve been there themselves. And even a little taste of it can humble a person. Much love to all, take care of your kids and show them this world can be a safe space for growth and harmony.
Theo is the best at explaining this to Joe. I relate to Joe who has, in the past, had a very hard time understanding BUT has come to see that there truly are people that must medicate to allow themselves to take the best care of themselves
What I have found is that people who are highly intelligent, and ate “thinkers” tend to deal more with anxiety/depression. Sometimes when you try to find an answer to a problem that basically has no solution, it causes anxiety. That prolonged anxiety then leads to depression. Been there done that unfortunately.. I agree that beyond genetics it can be a learned response from your parents actions in dealing with their problems.
My doctor prescribed me Xoloft over a year ago and even he didn’t sound super convinced it would fix my issues. After 8 months it was ok but still lots of trade offs and insomnia. I stopped taking them and tried mushrooms, I micro dose regularly and macro dose every few weeks. No more prescriptions, I feel amazing. I had a follow up with my doctor after a year to see if my mental health improved since it was covered by insurance. I told my dr I stopped the prescriptions and turned to shrooms. He was actually happy and told me his thesis was on psilocybin and mental health. He supported me doing shrooms which is not what I was expecting.
Man, I really needed to hear this. Theo is awesome. His descriptions of some things are right on. I should get back on meds for the same reasons he said. Joe is always awesome as well.
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I'm 1.5 hours in so far and Theo has hit the smelling salts several times, talked about hitting a cigarette last week, how hard it is for him to not vape after quitting a week ago and "let's try that" when Joe mentions some other drug. I've hung around with open mic-ers before and was good friends with an established stand up that Rogan knows well and the scene is not a great place for someone that suffers with addiction. Theo seems like such a caring person and I feel like he has some major demons that won't let him escape. Hope he can survive them.
@@Joe-sg9ll Not all successful people have addictive personalities. I would say minority of them are because its quite a feat to have mental illness, because thats what it is, and succeed at anything.
I would say get off his back but talking about sobriety on his show so much is bound to attract you judgemental people. Look no one cares what you do or dont put in your body, making it your main personality trait is annoying to everyone. Just stop. Plus at LEAST half you hypocrites still live on caffiene, sugars, and porn/tv/video game addictions.
@@Joe-sg9ll Not really. Comedy is last place in showbis for a narcissist since you are exposed to direct criticism. Joe managed since he has a podcast but look at his pal Brendan, another narc, he was torn to shreds by the public.
@@Joe-sg9ll Yeah but not all comedians are on SSRIs man. Bill Burr, Louis CK both masterful comedians, both had traumas in their childhood as we all do but neither is on SSRIs nor a narcissist. Its clear Theo had some bad stuff and Joe Rogan. You have very shallow understanding of narcissism and you think every person in a spotlight is there because they are narcissists which simply isnt true.
@@Joe-sg9ll My parents are narcissists too so I am a bad person? Narcissism is a buzz word thats being thrown around but proper NPD is not. I dont have it because I didnt have any major trauma in my childhood but siblings did and they have it. I know all about this stuff. Bottom line is, people with NPD are represented in all walks of life, it doesnt guarantee success in anything quite contrary the people I know who have it are quite unsuccesful in their lives like really poor jobs, no powet or authority but they crave it and they exude as much power over others as they possibly can, they take whatever adoration and respect they can draw in because they so desparately need it.
Crazy I’ve been struggling with ADHD for years and I’m finally starting to realize how bad it is. Still not on any medication just because I’m scared of having to rely on something everyday. It sucks that I know it would probably change my life for the better… but still can’t seem to pull the trigger on it
Same, but let’s just do it. Even Jim Carey said the things are great for people in the short term. So we take them for about a year, better our lives, and wean off. It doesn’t have to be so complicated, it’s the stigma stopping us.
i see a lot of influencers doing ayahuasca, and having great results with it. where can a normal mid-low class guy like me access that connection to the source? i've seen many accounts but, really would love to have my own experience. i wish we lived in a world where we all had access to that level of healing.
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My grandma was always anxious. My parents both didn't suffer from anxiety. I got full on ADHD, panic disorder, and GAD. I train hard and eat right so I am doing way better these days. I get anxious feelings, but I am able to get through them quickly now.
I’m Always depressed and have anxiety and I’m on prescription but it doesn’t work. I know that eating well and exercising helps! But just getting started is so hard having a full time job and 5 kids at home. Biggest thing I struggle with is coming home late from work and having dinner ready!
Honestly I can´t explain how listening to the Cheek Clappers Podcast makes me feel. I am very lonely and have no friends at all. I live alone and work remotely so I have little to no human interaction. But when I put their podcast on it´s like hanging out with two of my best buds. They don´t judge me for my macabre ghoulish goblin-like appearance or lack of any personal hygiene. We just laugh together like we have been friends forever.
Yeah the truth is depression is way different for every person. While there may be cross over with alot of people. There isn't really an all incompassing solution
I really feel that all my anxiety since 30 years old comes from my belly and guts. Some foods will make it worse, and some probiotics almost make it dissappear. I think people with extreme anxiety like me should give a try with a wide range of probiotics ... it really feels that those make something truly powerful, to anyone reading this please make the experiment, you have nothing to lose.
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I am also starting to see a correlation between my anxiety and gut health, even looking back to childhood. I take probiotic capsules 10 billion CFU and make fruit smoothies with Kefir to keep my IBS under control and it helps a lot with the anxiety as well.
I think us sufferers of depression have been traumatised too much in life and can’t find a way to get any comfort. If people have hurt you, you stop seeking their embrace and genuine love is important for survival. Plus the world is a total shit show right now. Just do your best and be kind to yourself and others. ❤
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I took paxil for almost 10 years. When the time came that i felt like it didn't need them anymore, i found out that i was totally addicted. The withdrawal was 10x worse than any drug i was ever on, and I'm a recovering addict with just over 4 years clean. I would not wish that on my worst enemy.
@@DR.DisInfect i hear you. My doctor at that time pushed so many pills on me. I was prescribed 90 Percocet 10s, 90 xanax bars, and paxil every month. Shit was disgusting
as much as Theo jokes around, when he is emotional and thorough with his thoughts he is the most relatable person on the planet
He jokes around? Almost like he's a comedian.
@@CaptainJirkwho hurt you?
@@natedyton61 ? Who said that? He’s just dumb.
He expresses himself through his jokes.
I'm over three years sober and his analogy about alcoholics is correct.
One of my favorite sayings about mental health and specifically anxiety is: Genetics load the gun and environment pulls the trigger. You can can be predisposed to mental health battles but grow up in a healthy atmosphere and never experience these issues. On the other hand grow up in chaos and you’re likely to manifest some sort mental health issues. Take care of your children folks…love them, support them give them the tools that you didn’t have. Glad Joe and Theo addressed this topic, it is often swept under the rug.
Very true what you are saying. I got the bad end of the stick so I know for a fact what you are saying is true. P.S like you said love your kids. Teach your kids.
I will never put my children on mental health meds.
@@johnylalrina1451 good for them . Teach them to be energetic and do sports and eat healthy
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Same goes for me.
Hear, hear.
Love when Theo gets real - helps people going thru similar shit
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This for real helped me because I was worried I was the only one that had this same issue with my antidepressant and also thought I was just a pussy for a while and couldnt handle sobriety. I went off antidepressants for 3 years and ended up going back on them after getting PTSD. I think If I hadnt have gotten PTSD i might have been able to stay sober its a shame how fragile we can be as humans because otherwise im the strongest person I know and I know people dont give me or others the credit they deserve. Long story short Theo is a real one for this. Love this man
Real tlk
I could remember several years ago, I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Was actually diagnosed with cptsd. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. This is something that really need to be use globally to help people with related health challenges.
Congrats on your recovery. Most persons never realizes psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives. Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here.
YES very sure of Dr.alishrooms. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta
I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.
I was horrifically depressed since childhood. It was relentless. I assumed it would ultimately end me somehow. About twelve years ago I randomly accepted the offer from a friend of a few doses of mushrooms. I did them two consecutive nights alone. First night was pretty mild. The second night? Wow. I saw my depression from every angle, realized much. Next day: depression totally gone. Never came back, never coming back. It's like it's a forest far away I can remember, and could probably find again with enough effort, but it has zero impact on anything in my life or mind. They honestly saved my life and improved it immensely. I never did them again, either. I wish there was a good, organized way to administer them to people who would benefit from them.
It’s crazy because the majority of people like him who are suffering are genuinely some of the most unique and amazing people to be around. ❤ Stay strong 💪 brotha.
It's really hard to start exercise but once you do it's something to look forward to every day/week and the improvements are noticeable thought not super significant at first
Compliment accepted. Thanks bud.
@Jim big facts before i went to mexico i probably lost atleast 10 pounds was doing 300 situps a day and atleast 150 push ups a day along with atleast 100 reps with weights and riding one of those weight wheel bikes for 30 minutes, then went to mexico for 4 days and i didnt work out the entire time and didn't continue when i got back cause i was already feeling great, cant imagine what id look like if i kept up with that routine know i wouldnt be 300 pounds with a beer belly lol
It's that way by design. Sheep running society = profit
If they only knew.
These conversations are so important. Thank you Joe and Theo.
"Mother Nature has a weiner, man!"
so glad theo went on JRE again. we need this twice a year
Wake up bro. Theo is the last person we need to hear more from right now
@@maxwelljacobfreedom why is that? i don’t mean politically
@@maxwelljacobfreedom would you like to elaborate?
What line of thought brought you into that conclusion?
EDIT: Never mind I just went to your page….that train derailed a LONG fuckin time ago.
@@maxwelljacobfreedom why
They are like the two uncles you never see but when you do you laugh your ass off
Eh, Joe doesn't really make me laugh.
I don’t know if joe isn’t witty enough to catch Theo’s jokes or he purposely overlooks them but it’s kind of cringe
@@kingofoblivion1822 they’re just having a conversation, nothing too cringey
@@kingofoblivion1822 ''everything is cringe'' zzzzzz
Really glad to hear Joe say he has another perspective on depression now. Heard him so many times say "Just get up and workout and you'll be fine". Paraphrasing but to that effect. Appreciate him recognising the truth about true mental illness.
People tend to forget were supposed to active. No one is meant to be sitting on a couch. Unless of course. But our bodies are wired to move and think.. when you break it down, all of us are supposed to be in shape or somewhat fit. And I mean all of us
Theo hit the nail on the head with his explanation of depression and SSRIs, for me at least! I just switched from Zoloft to Wellbutrin earlier this month (I was having annoying side effects), but an SSRI basically keeps your head above water, and creates a baseline for you. You still have to do the work to maintain your physical health and even your mental health to an extent, but without it, it’s like there’s an anchor tied to your leg that makes it 10x harder to stay afloat.
Be careful of the Wellbutrin, made me pack on weight like crazy
@@landonwoods2408that’s very odd as it’s a stimulant
Welbutrin isnt an SSRI but it sometimes added to them to increase effectiveness
@@landonwoods2408 strange. Weight loss is more common
@@jess_n_atx Oh I know haha. Bupropion is the other name for it; I just wanted to try out something from a different class. I’m just speaking for when I *was taking the Zoloft.
Man Theo is such an amazing human. Only person in that realm I can relate to.
Never heard of him. What does he do?
@@castello544comedian
@Ayo if you knew anything about him you not only wouldn’t write this but you couldn’t write this logically, he is amazing and you shouldn’t get butt hurt about it just because nobody called you amazing lol
@Ayolol you think that people you tag on youtube owe you anything? GFYS 🤡 Answer it yourself
Ayo clown
I've never been diagnosed but I clearly have constant anxiety. And it makes sense when I'm told stories after my mom passed in 2021. Being smuggled into a country at night on a boat, doesn't help. My mom lived with anxiety all the time. It's so obvious now. She was always on the move, couldn't stay still, had to be doing SOMETHING all the time. She hated staying home too. She would push me and my brother so much. Eventually my brother started studying medicine and shit and was telling my mom what she was dealing with and to see a doctor.
She tried to change but ultimately stayed in her ways until the end. Love her so much. Best person I've ever known, hands down. Best mother I could've hoped for. But yeah, she passed down this anxiety.
I'm always thinking too much and it lead to being diagnosed with depression, taking meds, etc. No wonder I can't stand still either. Boredom gives me anxiety.
Same boat. I have to exercise for hours a day. Been an athlete my whole life. Loved gym class but always had anxiety from as early as I can remember. Exercise and intense breathing is what helps me
Haven't taken any meds but I know for a fact that I have either depression or bipolar..or both. It helps to talk to someone...but you gotta get over that weird feeling to talking to someone. I feel like this is me just talking to myself...but I really hope everyone that reads this feels amazing about themselves. You're all you got.
For some reason you are experiencing anxiety. You seem unsure as to why. I hope to elucidate. You chose stressful words as descriptors. Your mind creates it for you, and mine for me as well. Your mind creates whatever you expect it to. It's a prison and/or a palace, a prisoner and/or a prince.
Its called trans generational Epigenetic inheritance
@@MarcSummersH2O ain't that the truth. Finding that one out late in life.
As an older adult, I learned a valuable lesson. I saw this in myself and many others. If you are faced with a problem that you don't know how to solve and don't have the tools or knowledge to solve it, you will become anxious. If you stay in that situation day after day, you will be trained to immediately become anxious. Think of a teacher demanding homework or testing on subjects that weren't properly taught. Or a boss or client who are unable to explain their needs but will hold you responsible anyway. Once in a while, it happens, but if it's every day, you have to change the dynamic. Get away if you can't fix it. This isn't good for you long term.
Half the country can relate to taking antidepressants or anti anxiety meds unfortunately. I'm glad Theo opened up.
Just seeing my neighbor on and off of it different weeks, it seemed a lot worse when he was on it. Not a doctor but at some point in your life you didn't need them , like Joe says exercise is a huge factor.. and it's not like "if I feel like exercising" you need to exercise 5 days a week
Half the country could benefit from better diet and exercise. But doctors pump them full of magic beans
1st world problems lol... You're in the best country in the world and you people squander it... Smfh
@@lolivingston6827 you people? I'm enjoying every moment 🤷
Maybe you people shouldn't paint with such a broad brush. 🙂
i had suicidal depression and all mental health disordersand it was extremely painful. probaly more painful than a kidney stone and it was chronic problem. my depression completely went after after doing an elimination diet of meat + bread only. i reintroduced plant foods and still dont have depression.
i believe the trigger was from either hershey special dark chocolate, chocolate milk, or fruit sugar. i was consuming alot of sugar during the time
I’m really glad to hear Theo be so open about his depression and taking meds. As well, to hear that Joe has changed his outlook on mental health disorders from a weakness of character or will and discipline to no longer believing that.
Time and time again I still battle with that belief in my head, that I have depression and anxiety because I’m weak willed or I’m just not doing enough. It’s the shame that comes with this illness , and all it does is prevent you from getting better. Glad to hear Joe has changed his outlook.
I still believe much of depression can be significantly improve by being disciplined, Watch Andrew Huberman podcast on the AMCC region of the brain, it’s the hub for many many neurotransmitters, And it literally gets bigger by engaging in behaviours that take discipline.
Disapline improved my depression significantly, I had force myself to do things i would have rathered not doing.
And no, you’re weak for not having discipline, It’s a learned skill, Just like climbing a mountain is a learned skill, Not being able to climb doesn’t make you less valuable than anyone, It’s okay.
I agree with Theo that anxious parents pass it to their child, and it doesn't even need to be a genetic thing.
That would be (and actually has been) way easier to prove compared to any genetic links to anxiety disorders
Very true. My father was a germaphobe and always paranoid. So am I.
Dude my mom went through some heavy heavy trauma while she was pregnant and i have THE worst anxiety, i worry so much just how she does and i fight the feeling cause i know thats now what i want to feel, oh man it sucks dude
@@m.a.c7420 My experience can be described in near identical terms. I feel you.
Jordan Peterson describes the mechanics of this dynamic quite well, and it seems very plausible
I love episodes like these that shine light on depression and anxiety.
Anxiety made me drop out of school, I didn't know it was anxiety at the time, but every time I was there, I would get super nauseous and would have to run out of class to the bathroom often.
Even till this day, when I'm with my girlfriend I still anxiety vomit often. I'm currently taking anti depressants and anxiety meds and it makes me feel normal.
I really liked the way Theo described his emotional levels/experiences. It felt very honest and relatable.
if there is 1 thing that theo isnt, he isnt a liar. Even if he has to say it in a joking way to take the edge off of what hes saying, he'll always tell you the truth.
We love you Theo stay strong brother.
I was diagnosed with anxiety and depression when I was in my 30s and it makes alot of things make sense for why I was the way I was in my younger years. I've been prescribed medication and sometimes even prescribed medications that would create worse effect when working with one another. Like your guest said , it's like a constant battle throughout the day. I can still do what I have to , but over time it does take alot of confidence to push through. That's why exercising is so important because it gives me a sense of confidence and that would make me narcissistic, but the narcissism is to combat the depression. That's me tho. Thanks for the information. 😁
Anxiety happens when you think you have to figure out everything all at once.
Breathe . You're strong. You got this Take it day by day.
Psilocybin saved my life. I was addicted to heroin for 15 years and after Psilocybin treatment I will be 3 years clean in September. I have zero cravings.
This is something that truly needs to be more broadly used in addiction treatment.
Please does anyone know where I can get them? I put so much on my plate and it really affects my stress and anxiety levels, I would love to try shrooms
Psychedelics saved me from vears of uncontrollable depression, anxiety and illicit pill addiction. imagine carving heavy chains for over a decade and then all of a sudden that burden is gone. Believe it or not in a couple years they'll be all over for treatment of mental health related issues.
Is he on instagram?
Shrooms was the best trip I had. It was an amazing experience.
It’s important to live in the moment. The past brings depression & the future anxiety.🙏👊
Damn, didn’t even think about it like that. That’s truth.
@@allsaintsarmy8882 you serious? It’s the most corny shit one can say. Though it’s true aF, as a depressed person myself.
It's only one way to look at it. Humans all have such different experiences that this is one valid way to see it out of many. It's important to ask for help when you need it.
@@udhay7920 it’s not corny, it’s easily broken down into what causes depression and anxiety. I needed to hear it.
And present moment brings peace....unless you get hit by a car
You guys are helping an amazing number of people, young and older. I'm SOOOO thankful for you both.
I suffer daily. I'm glad more people are coming out about their mental health issues. Makes me not feel so alone.
Me too
Theo is as real as it gets.
@@millanandrew grow up
@@millanandrew your comment just proved you not Real
@@millanandrew can you not see how real Theo is? Read in between the lines: the jokes are just padding reality. Dudes def got demons he has to face on a daily bases. As do we all.
@@FrankYammy he lies in half of his stories so how is milan wrong. Big fan of Theo but you can see some clips where you can tell he’s making it up as he goes along so if you cant tell you’re either stupid or too young
@@dankrhino can you not see how fake he is?
I’ve dealt with Anxiety my whole life, it’s a horrible thing to live with. You have to calm your triggers, working out , cold showers, meditating , and journal seems to be a bandaid on the anxiety .
It seems silly, but I've seen vitamin B1 help many people. I hope it might help you on your journey.
Same here, I’ve come to the conclusion it isn’t me, it’s the way our society works that makes me sick, it just doesn’t fit me
Anxiety, from my personal experience, is not something you get rid of. It's something you learn to mitigate and live with but it will always be there. I've gotten panic attacks where the trigger was the idea that it's possible for me to have a panic attack. Once you have one you're more likely to have another. It's a never ending cycle. Learning coping strategies is your best defense against them. Getting diagnosed with them was a great thing for me because I learned that I wasn't in fact dying and was actually dealing with something that thousands upon thousands of people deal with everyday. Having the ability to go "I'm having a panic attack right now, let's just get through this and it will eventually stop" is a great tool to have in your toolbox in the fight against anxiety.
@@Kramerica962 you nailed it to the T!
This guy is amazing. I hope he recovers and continue to flourish! ❤
Thank you to both of yall! Theo hit this on the nail. Im 2 months off my ssri and im struggling hard. Ive been exercising and working hard but it doesn't get me to where i feel "normal". I hate taking meds but im struggling after my wife passed. Maybe i should go back to my dr and start taking paxil again. It definitely helps me i just start feeling better and think i dont need it. Again, thank both of yall.
🆙☝️You can always order from him, he's legit & reliable,he's got em magic shrooms,LSD,DMT and many more.he helped me get thru alot in my life
theo is a very natural conversationalist, and one of those people that makes you feel comfortable while they're talking
I’ve never done ayahuasca, but shrooms made me go from being suicidal to being straight up happy. I take them every 2-3 months, and they’re generally much more effective than SSRIS for my depression.
They also are the best drug I’ve ever taken for migraine prevention, and I’ve tried everything from anti-seizure meds to Botox. It’s amazing how effective certain psychedelics can be for an array of medical issues
Im guessing that you have never been depressed, and truly hopeless.
That was for VTComps...
Shrooms make me feel overwhelmingly sad every single time
@VTComps... Daily migraines, just moved to a place I knew no one, bad marriage, wasn’t working due to trying to get disability so I basically had no life, and I already had chronic depression beforehand. So yeah, life sucked.
@VTComps... Yeah lol I’ve learned that. In the process of getting a divorce and feel so relieved.
Got diagnosed by the VA during rehabilitation with PTSD, ADHD, Bipolar 1, manic depression, suicidal ideation, anxiety, sleep disorder, and substance use disorder. As someone like this I can relate to Theo in so many ways. Theo is a badass man. Love that guy.❤
Stay strong man🤟
What has helped you, brother?
I'm going through the exact same thing.
Seems the battle never eases up, whatever I do to combat it.
The VA has done more harm to me and other services members than I would’ve ever thought possible. Hope you get the help you need, even if it’s outside of the VA. Bless
Damn bruh try a heroic dose of psilocybin (Or MDMA under a physicians care)
@@LuKxxClash will do man. Thank you
Wow. Great clip. Totally know how that feels when you get that drop. Strangely I was the only person in my family who ever had anxiety. I think it’s due to childhood shit. Taken me years to get to a point of managing it as best I can. Still get the odd drop, but mostly good now. Thank you for this clip guys. 🙏❤️
Theo puts into words the feelings that so many of us have. It’s relieving to know he is trying to navigate the waters of SSRI’s too….
🆙☝️You can always order from him, he's legit & reliable,he's got em magic shrooms,LSD,DMT and many more.
I was on generic prozac, I can say that it does work. The short time I was on it, I noticed that the small things didn’t bother me. Stayed on for a year then decided to wean off. I didn’t feel it was right to be on medication.
I can definitely get behind genetics and environment playing a role in bringing out anxiety. My mom is definitely why I am the way I am. But I love her and recognize it wasn’t on purpose. I too use exercise as a way to stay in check.
I really respect Theo's ability to be vulnerable, open and understanding. It's such a good example to men.
I can recommend you to this psyc specialist where I get my stuffs from..
_mycospeed;;;;;;;;
Sometimes we feel like we're alone in our struggles but then you talk to people and find out that we all struggle. I think it's really important for Joe and Theo to talk about these things so people can realize they're not alone.
Mental health issues can be absolutely genetic.
Neural connections are formed through traumatic experiences which literally rewires your brain and gene combinations pass this down.
You’ve got a huge nerve running from your brain to your gut, heart and lungs which can heighten emotional responses.
I have a Psych degree and been teaching for nearly 20 years and what Theo said about alcoholism and his shirt analogy is fucking profound.
You’re a treasure mate 👍
“If someone’s always tickling you, you’re always going to feel tickled. Even if they are tickling you with words”
-Theo Von
Truer, deeper, funnier words have never been spoken. Love you Theo ❤
Man I wish Theo and Joe would do a once a week podcast together. Every episode they’ve ever since together is hilarious and heart warming.
I’ve always described SSRI’s as making the world…a little…brighter-a bit more color! It’s like turning “life’s” display to vivid.
“Have another family ..” I burst out laughing and then the video ends 😢
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
(Jon_spore)
Ships psychedelics
@@sarahh321 Where to search?? Is it instagram?
One of my best experiences in my life was doing lsd and writing a paper on my interpretation of God and how the universe works, it was amazing and i got an A in the college class of comparative religion
@@Jerryberger9235 yeah, He has variety of stuffs like mushrooms, Isd, DMT even the chocolate bars
Shrooms are where it's at. If you've experienced LSD start with 2.5 grams of shrooms. Love them.
Joe is like that supportive cool uncle that i never knew i needed but i watch him on youtube rather than hangout in real life. His clips always bring me entertainment, knowledge and even in this one a little bit of peace of mind seeing as he understands how messed up anxiety and things of that nature can be. I swear these videos are like a therapy session sometimes. Thank you for having this platform and being such an awesome guy Joe 🙏❤️. I can imagine a friendship with you would be extraordinary
I feel what Theo is saying, I'm living it too. Everyday is a battle...
Me too.
Head up!
me too buddy , me too , I thought at first that because I was lonely , but even after finding love , darkness still creep up on me
Life is struggle. If you aren't struggling you aren't living...
@@ron1836 If you are clinically depressed, you aren't living.
Mental Health is REAL! I like when Joe has guests on that discuss mental health, from his friends to former or active military. It needs to be talked about more.
Thank you Joe and Theo just hearing you guys kick it and talk helps alot of us escape reality for just a minute and lets is know we aren't the only ones feeling some type of way. Much love 🍻
Hell yeah thanks dudes for being so open and honest about the struggles with mental health.
When Theo talks about his internal battle when he is off his SSRIs, it really sucks, but that's a side effect of withdrawal from the SSRIs that takes months to years to subside. They're so hard to get off. Just like cigarette withdrawal makes you anxious and angry, SSRI withdrawal makes you feel super depressed.
🆙☝️You can always order from him, he's legit & reliable,he's got em magic shrooms,LSD,DMT and many more.
Theo being real about his mental health is just everything. He can be a real jokester but this convo is just 🥰
Theo von makes me click faster then any other guest Gang
SSRI's and sports (specifically running or BJJ, but anything really), are a great combination. The sports help take away all the bad energies and anger, and the SSRI just helps getting through the day/weekend without contantly thinking about something stupid you did at work, or some presentation you have on Monday. That was spot on.
This conversation is so real, so relatable, so intriguing and so raw. I linked this to my wife to point to exactly how I feel in some situations and SSRI. I've been taking the same as Theo for the last 6 years and I find it near impossible to taper off. It's really great to hear such an authentic point of view and to know that I'm not the only one that is dealing with this. I mean, I know I'm not, but hearing him talk about it in so much detail that mirrors my feelings in such intricate detail, it was really an "uh huh!" moment for me. 2:18 resonated with me to the core. Thank you very much for sharing Theo.
Were all struggling with something. Why it's so important to be kind to each other.
I literally broke down at work today hit coming home and seeing this reprobate Theo open up makes me so happy! That’s bro!
I resisted being on meds for years and finally started taking an SNRI a month ago and I can tell you it really helps. My main problem was generalized anxiety disorder and I have definitely felt MUCH less anxious overall. It's only been a month, so I haven't even reach the full therapeutic effects yet. What I'm saying is it can really help manage symptoms and you owe it to yourself to not suffer.
Anxiety is horrible you feel shortness of breath when in a room with a few people , your heartbeat increases , leg starts shaking, you cant look people in their eye when communicating with them
Yeap it sucks! 😔
Joe out here low key saving ppl and being our therapist. God bless and GANG GANG 🤘🏽
Lol ending on “have another family” is wild 😂
People that don't have clinical depression will never understand what those of us that do have it go through. People just can't understand that physically painful aching at the center of you that comes outta nowhere. If they've never experienced it they put it in the same catagory as, just feeling bummed out, or sad. But for some of us it's a total lack of meaning, and motivation. A joyless world where nothing has meaning.
🆙☝️You can always order from him, he's legit & reliable,he's got em magic shrooms,LSD,DMT and many more.
I feel it. Nothing can iron out that wrinkle. You ask God why you feel like this.
100% agreed especially if it’s been the same from childhood to adulthood where all you know is not enjoying anything and feeling like every basic activity that is you trying to start your car when your gas tank is on empty.
Yeah it's the same thing with ADHD. People can't understand the physical discomfort/pain when going through a task. Then call us druggies for getting on stimulants, it's ridiculous.
For many mental disorders e.g anxiety, it has a lot to do with the individual’s environment as-well as genetics. Meaning, if your family has a long line of anxiety, you’re likely to develop it IF your environment exposes you to anxiety inducing scenarios.
Yeap, happened to me unfortunately
I’m really happy to hear Rogan a lot more open minded on this stuff. I’ve started taking SSRIs and was very hesitant mainly due to the stigma around it. I want to be tougher and be able to be proactive in taking care of my mental health, but when you’re really in a rut it’s hard to gain motivation to do anything. I’ve already noticed a huge difference in my outlook on life and feel a lot better equipped moving forward to take care of myself, not allow myself to overthink too much etc. I’m on a low dose so hopefully I can stop taking them at some point and move forward with a better mindset.
How was it
That battle he talks of is something I think WE ALL feel. That's nature brother, the nature of good Vs evil.
Lots of Ayahuasca ceremonies didn’t to be blunt help me….moving out of a moldy house was enlightening tho
We'll, I can confirm that anxiety is hereditary, my father had it real bad. Myself and my 3 son's have all had to seek help at one point or another. Intelligence is also a factor, we all have IQs well above avg. But my father's was 165 and Mensa tested and his anxiety was debilitating, seems that because we can wrap our heads around more stuff than most, we can find more things to worry about. Anyway we are all doing OK, life's good 👍
I wish i was smart im just anxious as fuck smh i dint get that lucky
@@swagkidm10 there's book smart and life smart, just because you're not academic doesn't mean you're not smart 🤓
I used to take lexapro for depression, suicidal ideation, then quetiapine for substance abuse depressive disorder. Those drops in emotion, sudden rage and drastic changes like that started because I tried to stop the meds. But I continued being off of them and stood that way cause I realized it was making it worse than before I took them, while I was on them daily though, I felt like happy but for no reason. Then I started doing shrooms the correct way and man was that the best decision I could have taken (not encouraging people to take them, it’s my experience) but yea the difference being that shrooms made me understand and see the ‘why’ I was in a bad mental space, and made me see it in a different light. I’m now off of the things that made me the worse version of myself
That’s a great story man. I’m glad they helped. Stick with it 👍
SSRIs made me comfortable with living a shltty, sad, depressing, life . SSRIs are a bandaid fix to anxiety and depression and should be last resort after lifestyle change, therapy, exercise, and other ways of natural healing. Shrooms should be prescribed for depression and anxiety not these pills that can make you fat and content with being a depressed bum. Great comment man
@@spencerrichmond5845 Been on them for years and they've drastically improved my productivity and general state of mind. Yes, you still need discipline to workout and eat healthy along with the SSRIs. It's important to improve your general health and circumstances to your best abilities, and I was able to do this due to a baseline "levelling" from the pills. I do not hit the dramatic lows I did before I took them.
These pills do not work for everyone, though.
To the OP: Make sure you're tapering off this medication correctly. Any attempt to stop "cold turkey" may shock the system and contribute to the mood swings you've been experiencing.
Sometimes I think people are taking videos when they have there phone points my way and people talk to me to see what I smell like and hear conversations think people are talking about me but there really not
When I took a "hero dose" of shrooms a couple years ago; near the peak of the trip where it became overwhelming I started watching TH-cam for a bit. I watched a clip of Theo on his podcast and as I watched him the only words that came to mind were things like "friend, trust, safe." I felt a strange, very real feeling that Theo was a good person, a friend that I could trust. It genuinely helped calm me down and made the experience more tolerable.
That experience definitely began the process of dealing with my depression, finding meaning in my life and becoming far more self aware. Though it got worse before it got better. When I describe the experience people interpret it as just a "bad trip." I think it showed me exactly what I needed to see, a lot of what I'd been running from.
It’s good to see that Joe has come around on his “man up” take to mental illness. Nobody knows the true depths of internal hell until they’ve been there themselves. And even a little taste of it can humble a person. Much love to all, take care of your kids and show them this world can be a safe space for growth and harmony.
Theo is so likeable. How could anyone dislike him?
Theo comes up with such great analogies.
Theo is the best at explaining this to Joe. I relate to Joe who has, in the past, had a very hard time understanding BUT has come to see that there truly are people that must medicate to allow themselves to take the best care of themselves
What I have found is that people who are highly intelligent, and ate “thinkers” tend to deal more with anxiety/depression. Sometimes when you try to find an answer to a problem that basically has no solution, it causes anxiety. That prolonged anxiety then leads to depression. Been there done that unfortunately.. I agree that beyond genetics it can be a learned response from your parents actions in dealing with their problems.
"Eavesdroppin on natures nuts" is probably the best thing i've heard all day..
We have lost many comedians to depression - such as Robin Williams. We must protect Theo.
Robin Williams had a very specific depression caused by Lewy Body Dementia.
My doctor prescribed me Xoloft over a year ago and even he didn’t sound super convinced it would fix my issues. After 8 months it was ok but still lots of trade offs and insomnia. I stopped taking them and tried mushrooms, I micro dose regularly and macro dose every few weeks. No more prescriptions, I feel amazing. I had a follow up with my doctor after a year to see if my mental health improved since it was covered by insurance. I told my dr I stopped the prescriptions and turned to shrooms. He was actually happy and told me his thesis was on psilocybin and mental health. He supported me doing shrooms which is not what I was expecting.
These two have such a strange, powerful, awkward chemistry
Man, I really needed to hear this. Theo is awesome. His descriptions of some things are right on. I should get back on meds for the same reasons he said. Joe is always awesome as well.
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I'm 1.5 hours in so far and Theo has hit the smelling salts several times, talked about hitting a cigarette last week, how hard it is for him to not vape after quitting a week ago and "let's try that" when Joe mentions some other drug. I've hung around with open mic-ers before and was good friends with an established stand up that Rogan knows well and the scene is not a great place for someone that suffers with addiction. Theo seems like such a caring person and I feel like he has some major demons that won't let him escape. Hope he can survive them.
@@Joe-sg9ll Not all successful people have addictive personalities. I would say minority of them are because its quite a feat to have mental illness, because thats what it is, and succeed at anything.
I would say get off his back but talking about sobriety on his show so much is bound to attract you judgemental people. Look no one cares what you do or dont put in your body, making it your main personality trait is annoying to everyone. Just stop. Plus at LEAST half you hypocrites still live on caffiene, sugars, and porn/tv/video game addictions.
@@Joe-sg9ll Not really. Comedy is last place in showbis for a narcissist since you are exposed to direct criticism. Joe managed since he has a podcast but look at his pal Brendan, another narc, he was torn to shreds by the public.
@@Joe-sg9ll Yeah but not all comedians are on SSRIs man. Bill Burr, Louis CK both masterful comedians, both had traumas in their childhood as we all do but neither is on SSRIs nor a narcissist. Its clear Theo had some bad stuff and Joe Rogan. You have very shallow understanding of narcissism and you think every person in a spotlight is there because they are narcissists which simply isnt true.
@@Joe-sg9ll My parents are narcissists too so I am a bad person? Narcissism is a buzz word thats being thrown around but proper NPD is not. I dont have it because I didnt have any major trauma in my childhood but siblings did and they have it. I know all about this stuff. Bottom line is, people with NPD are represented in all walks of life, it doesnt guarantee success in anything quite contrary the people I know who have it are quite unsuccesful in their lives like really poor jobs, no powet or authority but they crave it and they exude as much power over others as they possibly can, they take whatever adoration and respect they can draw in because they so desparately need it.
Crazy I’ve been struggling with ADHD for years and I’m finally starting to realize how bad it is. Still not on any medication just because I’m scared of having to rely on something everyday. It sucks that I know it would probably change my life for the better… but still can’t seem to pull the trigger on it
Same, but let’s just do it. Even Jim Carey said the things are great for people in the short term. So we take them for about a year, better our lives, and wean off. It doesn’t have to be so complicated, it’s the stigma stopping us.
i see a lot of influencers doing ayahuasca, and having great results with it. where can a normal mid-low class guy like me access that connection to the source? i've seen many accounts but, really would love to have my own experience. i wish we lived in a world where we all had access to that level of healing.
It’s coming man, the old phucks are almost gone, hang in there 👍
Do mushrooms, especially in a high dose will have dmt like experience, which dmt is the main psychedelic in ayahuasca
Brother if u r serious about it then lemme tell u.. u can make dmt crystals at ur home..the tutorials r all over the internet...but for ayahuasca u will have to travel...same with shrooms order spores online then grow them urself....
Good for you Joe! I’m glad you see things differently, I used to have the same thoughts. Great interviews as always, thank you Theo too!
I love Theo!!! Never stop being you brother!!! ❤️✨
My grandma was always anxious. My parents both didn't suffer from anxiety. I got full on ADHD, panic disorder, and GAD. I train hard and eat right so I am doing way better these days. I get anxious feelings, but I am able to get through them quickly now.
We need more and more of these conversations
I’m
Always depressed and have anxiety and I’m on prescription but it doesn’t work. I know that eating well and exercising helps! But just getting started is so hard having a full time job and 5 kids at home. Biggest thing I struggle with is coming home late from work and having dinner ready!
Micro dosing is absolutely amazing!!
Honestly I can´t explain how listening to the Cheek Clappers Podcast makes me feel. I am very lonely and have no friends at all. I live alone and work remotely so I have little to no human interaction. But when I put their podcast on it´s like hanging out with two of my best buds. They don´t judge me for my macabre ghoulish goblin-like appearance or lack of any personal hygiene. We just laugh together like we have been friends forever.
Exercise can help any mental health issue
Depends on the severity. Back when my MDD was severe I would run 5 miles a day and would feel even worse after the run.
Yeah the truth is depression is way different for every person. While there may be cross over with alot of people. There isn't really an all incompassing solution
Truth. I'm trying to talk myself into it right now
No. It can temporarily mask it.
Try Schizophrenia
I hope everyone who’s going through anything is doing well ❤
Ladies and gentleman~
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Theo is another level of funny😂😂😂😂
That last line “it’s telling you to have another family”
I really feel that all my anxiety since 30 years old comes from my belly and guts. Some foods will make it worse, and some probiotics almost make it dissappear. I think people with extreme anxiety like me should give a try with a wide range of probiotics ... it really feels that those make something truly powerful, to anyone reading this please make the experiment, you have nothing to lose.
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What would you recommend? Thanks in advance 🙏
I am also starting to see a correlation between my anxiety and gut health, even looking back to childhood.
I take probiotic capsules 10 billion CFU and make fruit smoothies with Kefir to keep my IBS under control and it helps a lot with the anxiety as well.
This relaxed me weirdly
I think us sufferers of depression have been traumatised too much in life and can’t find a way to get any comfort. If people have hurt you, you stop seeking their embrace and genuine love is important for survival. Plus the world is a total shit show right now. Just do your best and be kind to yourself and others. ❤
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Theo tickles me with his words.
I took paxil for almost 10 years. When the time came that i felt like it didn't need them anymore, i found out that i was totally addicted. The withdrawal was 10x worse than any drug i was ever on, and I'm a recovering addict with just over 4 years clean. I would not wish that on my worst enemy.
Right? Did you have those… like brain shocks? Hard to describe.
I only took for few months when they first released my dr told me not addictive at all. Bs I almost ended my life over that feeling
@@milDelux Brain Zaps is what i called them! Yes!! It was terrible. I felt like i was literally going insane
@@DR.DisInfect i hear you. My doctor at that time pushed so many pills on me. I was prescribed 90 Percocet 10s, 90 xanax bars, and paxil every month. Shit was disgusting
@@milDelux I remember brain zaps, that's what I called them. I've been off meds for over 10 years and feel great most of the time.
"Have another family" LOL
My God I love Theo.
Learn something new each time on JRE 💯
”have another family” Lmao god bless Theo!
"Have another family!" LMAO
Crazy how some of thr funniest people on this planet, are fighting some type of mental health issue