Awesome video and knife! I have the Native Chief in M390 with DLC and brown G10 scales bought directly from Spyderco almost two years ago. Funny thing is I use the Chief more as a kitchen knife because it's thin and slicey and having other knives for edc. Thanks for sharing brother! 👍
I just bought a Native Chief in S30V from Dack Outdoors for $137. It was $160 with shipping and tax. Still amazing deal. Shipping takes a month though.
BD1N loses its edge extremely fast, from my experience. Even though it is super easy and quick to “touch up” (strop or ceramic), I find this type of edge retention just a bit too inadequate for my taste. Especially when it comes to fairly abrasive materials. I resort to using BD1N knives in kitchen, only. This knife pattern does sound interesting, though. I’ll def try the Magnacut version that should be out, shortly. I always found the newer FRN Native models a but too “blocky” in hand. Something about it just never feels right in so many different grips. Hopefully they did better with the Native Chief LW. I think it could make for a good comparison vs Police LW - a model I really enjoy, this size. Thanks for the video. I thoroughly appreciate the opinions of folks who actually use their knives..!
i only have that lack of edge retention with factory edges. As soon as i put Bd1n to a stone it cuts way longer. My edc uses consist of a combination of many different things, so i did the cut test accordingly. Still think it is underrated by most people. Magnacut will definitely give you a longer lasting cutting edge though. Thanks for your input.
@@megaronknives3032 I resharpen all my knives as soon as they come from factory. BD1N does well with a polished edge, but in a world where you can get MC, S90, K390 and other great steels, BD1N definitely gets very little love.
@@megaronknives3032 BD1N is really as close to 440C as it gets without straight up calling it 440C (it has slightly less carbon but a bit more molly). So your average non-PM stainless, which I agree nowadays belongs in the kitchen only. The only steels that are worth such low wear resistance are the super tough and super stainless ones like LC200N and 14C28N, at least those let you drop the edge down to 12 DPS without chipping to make up for the lack of wear resistance, and you can forget them on the bottom of a fish tank for a few weeks without worrying about rust.
That's a white stork. They're cool as hell. We don't have them in North America, but I've seen them in Malmö a couple times. I haven't used bd1n much in PE, but I have tons of experience with it in SE. I've broken 2 of the "teeth" off. I do tons of dumb things with it, but I've done far dumber things with SE k390 and never broken any teeth off.
Yeah we have them a lot here. Very smart creatures. Hmm hard to say, there are a lot of variables here. Did you do the exact same thing with both knives, was it prefractured, was it overheated while sharpening... overall K390 is probably thougher, but chipping on serrations are not unusal in my opinion.
BD1 and BD1N are just takes on old GIN-1 steel Spyderco used to use. It's alright, but BD1N has nitrogen, so better corrosion resistance and maybe a little better edge retention. I never noticed much of a difference in edge retention and sharpening between the two. VG-10 is a better steel. Proven.
i love mine got the all black fully serrated version. my only niggle is it's way off center and messing around with the pivot screws does nothing. any suggestions anyone ?
Yeah Spydercos have that sometimes. Loosening body and pivot screws and pushing the blade over to the opposite side that it is faceing, while tightnening body screws.
Awesome video and knife! I have the Native Chief in M390 with DLC and brown G10 scales bought directly from Spyderco almost two years ago. Funny thing is I use the Chief more as a kitchen knife because it's thin and slicey and having other knives for edc. Thanks for sharing brother! 👍
Vielen Dank und schöne Grüße aus San Diego!
I just bought a Native Chief in S30V from Dack Outdoors for $137. It was $160 with shipping and tax. Still amazing deal. Shipping takes a month though.
Heck yes! Another great video. Great knife choice to test!
Great review. Can't decide between this and the police lightweight.
@@rustyhawk9335 if you can’t decide than wait until you know.
BD1N loses its edge extremely fast, from my experience.
Even though it is super easy and quick to “touch up” (strop or ceramic), I find this type of edge retention just a bit too inadequate for my taste. Especially when it comes to fairly abrasive materials.
I resort to using BD1N knives in kitchen, only.
This knife pattern does sound interesting, though. I’ll def try the Magnacut version that should be out, shortly.
I always found the newer FRN Native models a but too “blocky” in hand. Something about it just never feels right in so many different grips.
Hopefully they did better with the Native Chief LW.
I think it could make for a good comparison vs Police LW - a model I really enjoy, this size.
Thanks for the video.
I thoroughly appreciate the opinions of folks who actually use their knives..!
i only have that lack of edge retention with factory edges. As soon as i put Bd1n to a stone it cuts way longer. My edc uses consist of a combination of many different things, so i did the cut test accordingly.
Still think it is underrated by most people.
Magnacut will definitely give you a longer lasting cutting edge though.
Thanks for your input.
@@megaronknives3032 I resharpen all my knives as soon as they come from factory.
BD1N does well with a polished edge, but in a world where you can get MC, S90, K390 and other great steels, BD1N definitely gets very little love.
@@megaronknives3032 BD1N is really as close to 440C as it gets without straight up calling it 440C (it has slightly less carbon but a bit more molly). So your average non-PM stainless, which I agree nowadays belongs in the kitchen only. The only steels that are worth such low wear resistance are the super tough and super stainless ones like LC200N and 14C28N, at least those let you drop the edge down to 12 DPS without chipping to make up for the lack of wear resistance, and you can forget them on the bottom of a fish tank for a few weeks without worrying about rust.
That's a white stork. They're cool as hell. We don't have them in North America, but I've seen them in Malmö a couple times.
I haven't used bd1n much in PE, but I have tons of experience with it in SE. I've broken 2 of the "teeth" off. I do tons of dumb things with it, but I've done far dumber things with SE k390 and never broken any teeth off.
Yeah we have them a lot here. Very smart creatures.
Hmm hard to say, there are a lot of variables here. Did you do the exact same thing with both knives, was it prefractured, was it overheated while sharpening... overall K390 is probably thougher, but chipping on serrations are not unusal in my opinion.
I think it was created for the kitchen, cutting vegetables.
BD1 and BD1N are just takes on old GIN-1 steel Spyderco used to use. It's alright, but BD1N has nitrogen, so better corrosion resistance and maybe a little better edge retention. I never noticed much of a difference in edge retention and sharpening between the two. VG-10 is a better steel. Proven.
i love mine got the all black fully serrated version. my only niggle is it's way off center and messing around with the pivot screws does nothing. any suggestions anyone ?
Yeah Spydercos have that sometimes.
Loosening body and pivot screws and pushing the blade over to the opposite side that it is faceing, while tightnening body screws.