Industrial Design Fundamentals 01 Perspective
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ส.ค. 2024
- I've been teaching at my former working place and I really enjoy it so I thought let's share some of it with you. I find people neglect their fundamentals quite often so I made this video so we can practice together.
I actually shot a video in the weekend but i wasn't satisfied so I had to re shoot everything today. A reminder to myself: CLEAN THE LENS NEXT TIME!
I'm curious if you like this long format videos or if I should try and keep them shorter?
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This is actually insanely informative and well presented. I teach Design at upper secondary school and I'll totally refer my students to your video series if they need to work from home/study extra or just want to deepen their understanding of Industrial design drawing!
Johannes From wow that is such an amazing thing to read! It's always crazy for me to hear that my videos are being used in actual education. Thank you very much!
Design at school !
Feels like heaven, btw which country ?
I think it important to point out and appreciate the depth of this beginners tutorial and the quality of the information this man is giving out, practically free. This is by far the best video out there for those who seek to get into sketching and industrial design! AWESOME work man. I have never subscribed to someone so fast.
Thank you very much for that kind comment I really appreciate it and also the sub :)
Agreed
the best Industrial Design tutorial I found on line.
Oh thank you very much for the kind words! I'm glad you found my video useful.
This has helped me so much! Giving it just one ‘like’ feels wrong
The nice comment means more than a like si thank you very much for that ^_^
Absolutely agree with you this tutorial deserves more than just a like, its so simple and on point, Very practical, exactly the information you need to start sketching a product👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Hello Mr. Robert, thank you for the videos you produced. I have learned a lot of practical knowledge from these videos. Especially in perspective.
Thank you very much for your kind comment, I'm very glad you found it useful!
Hey Robert! I love the long form content. Thanks so much!!
Than you very much. I'll try and do some longer videos in the future but many of my drawings take from 30 minutes up to 2 hours and i feel that needs some shortening.
This is amazing! I had to watch this for homework and I would definitely recommend this to friends!
Im glad you found it useful and thank your teacher from me as well :)
Wow.....this is AMAZING and how come you only have 2000 subs?! So underrated and congrats- You’ve earned yourself a new sub!
Aww thank you very much, I'm very glad you find my stuff useful :)
This video is superb.
Drawing is just a hobby for me, but a very important one because reasons. With what I draw, these principles haven't been too important, but lately I've been feeling hampered by my limitations of not understanding them, and frustrated when I tried to branch out, with the lack of foundation to work from.
This is hands down the best, most thorough, and most accessible information on vanishing points I've found, after quite a bit of looking.
As indicated by your previous "long convoluted attempt" at making this video, it is not an easy thing, to create something simple.
This is already changing my sketching game, which then impacts many more areas of my life. Thank you, very much.
You have the teaching skill - it is a true gift.
Thank you very much for this kind comment!
@@robertlkiss you're most welcome, I hope it actually lands. I'm not an expert with art but my fields of expertise allow me to recognize and appreciate what we would call elegant (ie truly simple) work.
Thank you very much, Robert. This class is so very useful!
Thanks for the comment glad you enjoy it!
i attend a drafting school and we learned this too. its so much fun!
The best way i found to do the line warmup is to do draw a fairly large circle with a dot in the middle and then you can draw dots on the circle and draw lines from the middle to the dots around the circle (or if you prefer drawing from the dots around circle towards the middle). This ensures that you are practicing drawing straight lines at every angle.
Oh that is a very good approach, I never thought of that. I shall use that from now on, thank you!
Very smart
This is awesome, thank you!
Thank you for the kind comment :)
Great content. I'm doing electrical engineering, but I still love drawing. Keep up the great work bro✌️
Thank you very much. You are basically studying my cryptonite! :D
Very informative video, thank you!! Looking forwards to more basics videos.
Esra Yilmaz thank you :)
You are excellent at teaching us the fundamentals!
I appreciate that!
You have some amazing freehand drawing skills. I worked as a technical illustrator for many years before the days of personal computers and cheated by using rulers, calculators, computers and plastic ellipse guides to create cut-away perspective illustrations of engines and gearboxes etc. Freehand drawing is a totally different although related skill set that I never quite mastered, and I do appreciate your freehand drawing abilities. I would love to see how you would approach freehand drawing an accurate representation of a spiral cast-iron stairway from an offset view taken from above the staircase, which was possibly one of the most challenging technical illustrations that I ever attempted, and I personally could not imagine creating such a drawing freehand.
Thank you very much. The good thing with freehand is that you get to cheat a lot as well. There is no expectation in freehand to be exactly precise. In industrial design sketching you learn how to construct mostly everything but even there sometimes we just tell the students to estimate because it's not that important.
Actually what you did deserves a whole ton of respect, because these days I don't think anyone could do that anymore. We just jump into a cad application and 3D model things. The craftsmanship of hand drawing technical illustrations is gone.
Im a 15 years old trying to learn how to sketch like this as a hobby or like a thing im interested in! From what i actually understood from the video, while sketching you Don't move your wrist instead your whole hand and i actually find that really helpful thanks for sharing!!!! (English isn't my first language)
Thanks Robert, in love with your channel!
Thanks buddy, very nice of you to say that ^_^
I am studying mechanical engineering and love design and drawing new Products. Good video👍
Thank you!
Thank you sir ☺️ I want to learn more about a perspective. You're so awesome 😊
Desiree Anne Legaspi thank you ^_^
Thank u for this , it can help my study, because I'm taking Industrial design..❤️
Glad to hear that :)
@@robertlkiss thank you for the notice sir 🥺♥️
After searching a lot I got your video which is best for me.
amrendra kumar glad you found it useful!
I forgot the word Proposal drawings. Remembered then got this plus 🎷 SAXOPHONES. Truely amazing. Line up your 🖋️ pencils!
really great content, u helped a lot
keep making video like this it's help me to draw nicely thanks bro, i followed you on instagram too
Rayhan Hilmi thanks man I'm glad you find my videos helpful!
A lot of value in these videos
Thanks for the video, glad you find them useful!
Big Hug Robert! Lovely and useful video...
Mersi mult! I'm happy you think it's useful!
I like him to start with Not Hard at all with everything !
Just found your video sir, and I just wanna thank you for doing such a good way to teach these confusing method, btw, have you ever read scott robertson's book? I've got my own copy but it's kinda confusing. Hope you can make a video how to breakdown those exercises in the book.. again thank you for this insightful video.. keep it up sir.
Im happy you find my videos useful. I have Scott Robertson's How to render but not the how to draw book. If I remember correctly he also has videos with his exercises a couple even on youtube. Do they not help? What exercises confuse you?
@@robertlkiss thank you for the quick response Sir.Robert, the one that confused me was the "mirroring a 2D curve on a tilted surface" I don't know why scott placed the mirroring technique on top instead at the front or back like what he did in mirroring tilted plane and mirroring rotated tilted plane...
@@Markus-_- It requires some fundamental knowledge of geometry (which is taught in high school). Scott's approach is very scientific and it might look confusing. It takes time. Scott's books are masterpieces!
Wow this was sooooo helpful thank you so much!!!!
Very happy to hear that!
"The squeezed ones" haha cute!
keep sharing sir! its make me improve my sketches
Happy to hear that, will do :)
Muito obrigado por esse vídeo, iniciativa fantástica
Obrigado pelas amáveis palavras!
I love this tutorial 🙏🏽🙌🏽👍🏽
Happy to read that :)
Awesome!
Thx robert! this video can help a lot! I wanted to ask you 2 questions:
the size of the sketch is important? and how do you decide it?
Thx again and good luck!
Poporo I would say always draw on A3 and draw as big as possible. Obviously if you want to do exploratory sketches you don't need to do one sketch per page, you can do thumbnails in that case. And what do you mean by how do you decide it?
i have problem when trying to find the perspective, but this video helps me thank you
Happy to read that!
Thank you !!🥰 i'm not listening english but your video is very well❤❤
Thank you. Hope you can still understand the basics!
Great, thanks
you explain very well, thanks
Thank you for your kind comment :)
Thank you, amazing content
Glad you enjoyed it
Love your tutorials! Can you explain how to build sphere's cast shadow properly? I can't really find a good explanation video anywhere...
Sure thing! I will try, otherwise just join my discord and if I have the time I'll gladly explain there.
so helpful , thanks
Glad it helped!
NICE!
When to use perspective? Do we use perspective when drawing portrait?
in order to really learn perspective, you need a good tutorial like this and to do it yourself!
Thank you I'm glad you like it! And yeah you always have to put in the work yourself
All humanity should know.
Well the part of humanity who is interested in drawing ^_^
great video
Thank you!
Damnnn thanks alot for your sharing man
Glad you enjoyed it!
Cool, thanks!
Great video thanks :)
Glad you found it useful!
Very informative and clears up a lot of things for me. Can I ask what the pen is that you were using?
It was a Papermate pen.
I really like your style !! Do you have an online course? Think about
do? If not, does it indicate any?
Thank you very much! Yes I'm am preparing to put together a patreon page where i'll be offering online help.
Thank you...
Thanks
Great! thank you.
Glad you liked it!
Another good line practice is to take a pen and cross out every line of text in a newspaper for straight line practice.
Oh that is a good idea! Thanks
Nice really gained from this
Happy to hear that!
Best !
Thanks :)
which point perspective is better in terms of speed ? 2 point or 3 ? and which one do you usually use ?
It's not really about speed it's about what you want to draw. I usually go for 3 point perspective because that's the closest to reality.
Great! Thanks :)
Glad you liked it!
Tks you so much
Glad you found it useful!
very helpful
Glad to read that!
Thks
Hi robert I loved your videos.
Could you indicate some book or material on cut and intersection?
That's a bit tricky since most of those techniques I learned by adapting what I learned from the technical drawings during my engineering studies and later through some industrial design lessons as well. Maybe the 2nd book of Koos Eissen (Sketching: The Basics) might be of help. But if you have more specific questions feel free to drop me a dm on insta and I'll see how I can help you out.
Wow, I got it. Lots of happy for your explanation and attention. Thank you for you time
Amazing video..may I know the pen you've used in this video?
Thank you it's a papermate fineliner flair.
I have a question , i hope you're still active right now because it has been bugging me.
In one point perspective is the vanishing point always in the middle?Can you adjust where to put the vanishing point?For instance it's on the right middle-ish.
In 2 point perspective are the vanishing point limited to rhe sides only?
In 3point perspective are the 3 VP only limited to left right and bottom?
Hey there. Let me answer your questions:
1: Technically yes you can move the VP around but 1 point perspective is never really used because it is incorrect and gives a very flat end result. It is interesting for some graphic representations and simplified drawings, but you would never use it in product design or realistic drawings.
2: What do you mean if they are limited to the side only? The vanishing points are always on the horizon line. Here you can move them freely as long as you don't get too much distortion.
3. The 3 point perspective is the next level of the 2 point perspective. So 2 VP's will always be on the horizon line like before and the 3rd VP will be above or below the horizon line depending on your camera and whether it is looking up or down.
It's really good but would you mind if you draw everything in real time rather than speeding it up?but anyways the videos are great!
I feel like I've only sped up parts that are not relevant to the topic I'm taking about. If I drew a cube in the beginning in normal speed I don't feel it benefits if I draw it again in the same speed. But which specific part do you feel i sped up that thou would like to see in normal speed?
Is there a difference between product design and industrial design, or are they essentially the same thing?
I think one is the umbrella term under which the other guys as well. But don't remember exactly. I would say if you say industrial design, you the no about products for the fiscal world. When you say product design people will think of digital products as well.
Your movement comes from the shoulder and not the wrist when practising straight lines?
Yes absolutely
How long take to get better at perspective, praticing like 2, or 3 hours per day ???
Marcelo Marcon there's no real time estimation for that. But if you keep on practicing fundamentals and then applying them to real life at the same please you are doing now you should see results within a year or half a year I recon.
Does anyone know about NID ( National Institute Of Design, India)
What kind of liner do you use.?
Here I use Papermate but usually I get the cheapest ones I can find in a supermarket :)
Dankeee:D
Like helpful video
Thank you!
have you tried the exercise where you put a dot the in middle of the page and try to hit all the dots around its that are in a circular motion because i notice that your are purposely handicapping your own drawing skill by not doing this, because i made this exercise for my self and i never need to adjust my hand from the 45 degree angle i hope what i just said makes any sence.
Hello sir. I am probably your youngest student. I want to know that is it necessary to practice those exercises Everytime we start to make a sketch?
It is necessary as long as you don't feel confident with your lines and ellipses. Exercises are supposed to help you to get better and confident with the craft you are doing. If you got to a point where you are confident with your craft and you do it on a daily basis the exercise is in the craft itself.
Wow
It's so hard for beginners
That's where passion comes in that's forces you to do things over and over again and just keep on pushing. That's how you learn.
What pen are you using?
It's a papermate flair
What pencils are u using?
I rarely use pencils. Most of the time I use fineliners, the cheapest I can find in the supermarket :) In this video I use the a Papermate pen. But if you really wanna know about pencils I use a Staedtlers and Bruynzeel.
dont use wrist movements for straight lines, use shoulder movements.
Yup that is correct! As you can see throughout the video I draw from the shoulder.
Hey Robert, I have a question about 1 pt perspective, I hope you are still active since the question was really bugging me.
So for 1pt perspective, Can there be two different vanishing points located differently? Like, One vanishing point for one cube, and the other vanishing point for another cube, but all in the same canvas. I don’t know if that’s possible since in 1pt perspective the vanishing point is where your eyes are looking at.
Thank you for reading so far and have a good day! (It really would make my day is you could answer my question:)
Hey there. I'm not sure if I understand your question. If there are two different vanishing points isn't that a 2 point perspective by definition?
Robert Laszlo Kiss Hummm... Let me put it this way, In 1pt perspective, do all the cubes have to converge at the same VP, or can there be another VP for them to converge?
@@abbyxiong3406 pretty much same answer :) as soon as you have a second vanishing point by definition it's a 2 point perspective. A 1 point perspective is usually very flat because it doesn't have a 2nd vanishing point.
@@abbyxiong3406 its hard to explain in a short message but i think this article does quite a great job at explaining a 1pt perspective:
www.benzilla.com/?p=3683
Robert Laszlo Kiss thank you！I definitely had a good day owo
helpfull
BROKEN Designer thanks. I’m happy you found it helpful !
@@robertlkiss i'm Industrial Design 1st sem student....
link to pencil set?
They are Paper Mate Flair's
this was a great video. i just don’t get why sketching is so highly valued in the ID community when you can make a rough model in cad and get a perfectly executed drawing from that? it seems like a waste of time to sketch and when i have an idea the first thing i want to do is put it in cad not waste time on sketching.
I agree, and I tell this to a lot of people. Sketching is just one tool in a big toolbox that id-ers have, it is a useful tool but not a necessary one. But for some reason, people still view it as a must.
@@robertlkiss glad to hear you agree! sometimes i feel like companies will think i’m less qualified because i don’t include a lot sketching in my portfolio even though the rest of my abilities meet their standards
@@nicolasriano9591 Not sure where youare applying but I only noticed this need in the states and UK. Here in nl they care much elss about you sketching and more about you methodologies and experience.
If you normally spin the paper, just spin it. Better to see how you handle it naturally IMO. Good info though.
Trust me in most of my videos I spin like crazy :)
hi what dog is this
Recommend tools please
A stack of A4 printer paper and the cheapest pens you can get ;)
@@robertlkiss thank you sir.
he forgot to put the joke .
Thanks
Hope it helped!