The Strange Case of Kari Baker
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- Kari Baker and her husband, Matt Baker the preacher, were living happily in Waco, Texas. However, the family would endure tragedy, with it being too much for poor Kari Baker. Or at least that is what Matt would say, and seem to move on pretty quickly. Her family disagreed.
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'I've had a vasectomy and got no STD's' is the worst pick up line I've ever heard. And it worked on her!
I thought '"The silver tongued cavalier"
Right, like she fell for that line? yikes
no wonder why she is dead….🤷🏻
he was a pastor...or was he a minister? Anyways, it's amazing how much leeway people allow "religious people." Plus, this guy was a shameless predator. If you keep hitting on thousands of women, you'll find one that doesn't mind your creepiness. Law of averages.
Lol I know
NO mother kills themselves, naked, with their young children in the house.
A typed letter?
A husband calling 911 like hes ordering pizza?
A mistress who knew ALL that information?
Shame on them.
Excellent summary.
Ex paramedic here, this case might be murder but suicides can be truly bizarre and I have attended calls far worse than this. One mother hung herself in front of her kids, that was a pretty bad night.
Exactly 👌
@@t.b.5115 That's horrifying
@@t.b.5115 And i'm sure you recognized the casual conversation one has while doing chest compressions. (eyeroll)
okay here’s my problem with this Vanessa person: she clearly knew EVERY SINGLE DETAIL about the crime he committed yet she kept quiet about it, only spoke up after he got caught. Also, if he spoke about killing his wife so many times and she stood by him what does that make her? I don’t buy the innocent vulnerable speech, she should’ve been prosecuted right along with him.
Even ignoring how trashy she is, imagine sticking with a guy who murders his wife. What do you think he’s gonna do when he tires of you???
Yup. You can see right through her.
And then he confessed to her after the murder and still does nothing?
I thought I must be missing some details here, how is she not in prison rn?
They probably offered her immunity for her testimony against him.
I love how the mistress is dissing his game but still went for it.
His mistress is a real piece of work. She could have saved her life. Hope she goes in right along with him
My guess is that they offered her immunity for her testimony. That’s pretty standard, especially since technically she didn’t _actively_ participate in any way. That said, she’s garbage.
Facts
I agree if she knew ahead of time. I've watched this story on a couple different shows an I believe she was informed after the fact. Not that she's not a disgusting human just for the fact she's banging the married pastor. But I'm not convinced she knew he was gonna kill her. Oh Im sure he said all kinds of hateful things about his wife but don't think she was told I'm gonna kill her ... Thinking she was told after the fact that Ya I did this all for you an our love... Or something along those lines of Bullshit!!
She might have immunity now but wild guess there’s probably a place in hell for her.
Would you run to that PD when they didn’t even suspect the guy? After all he was a minister, & evidently his wife didn’t take his shenanigans seriously when she found out about them.
Highly unlikely the PD would wish to walk back on their initial findings, especially since they wouldn’t listen to victim’s family.
Vanessa needs to go to jail too. Her comment in the police interview - "this is messing up my schedule" spoke volumes. She knew !!
Yah, a woman was dead and she was worried about her schedule. Before it even got to this point she should of gone to the police. She could of saved that poor woman from being killed.
Yeah, poor thing had the police take her away from her busy schedule, just because her boyfriend murdered his wife
She was just fine with it until they got caught.
😂😂🤣🤣😂🙄🤡
I have consistently found that women who sleep with married men have no empathy, therefore they don’t care about whoever gets hurt or murdered. Of course, right? No empathy means they cannot put themselves in the wife’s position to begin with, which is why they begin the affair in the first place. These people are damaged emotionally and mentally.
I love how he threw in a compliment to himself in the "suicide note". What a POS!
Was just listening to that part when I read your comment. Typical narcissist 'imma sleep now..you keep doing you, rockstar' 🤯..like wtf?
Right?!
That was such a red flag plus women don't usually kill themselves in the nude.
@@bakeddulce5451 that's exactly what I said!!
@@bakeddulce5451 Too right - though also women don't 'usually' kill themselves at all - and nor did this one.
Vanessa: (paraphrased of course) My married pastor was such a creep when he first approached me for an affair. It was disgusting.
Also Vanessa: So after I started having an affair with my married pastor.
This is what zero character, zero sense, and zero accountability looks like.
While you're correct, humans are humans, male or female. People say men don't always think with the organ between their ears, they think with a different organ. Well, women can be guilty of the same sometimes.
true, she s as trashy as him
I thought the same thing! Vanessa thought he was a creeper (which she was right!), but she still went on to have an affair with him, knowing he was married?? Vanessa also never said anything about the pastor plotting to kills his wife? They are both disgusting human beings!
@@User31129 firstly the original comment didn’t make any mention of it being a female or male issue 😂
Secondly, although it’s technically true what you’re saying, this wasn’t that case. Vanessa is younger and way more attractive than he is. It’s highly doubtful she was just desperate for sex 🙄😂 In extremely broad and general terms (I have a psych degree), women cheat/look for partners with different reasons in mind than men 🤔 While there are always exceptions - many of them - in general, women tend to look for security, love and positive attention - sex is usually not the main (nor sole) reason. She was recently divorced and probably felt lonely and vulnerable. Many divorcees think “no one will ever want me now I’m this age and I have kids”. He was older, he was a pastor (so he had a good standing in the community), and he was infatuated with her 🤔 That’s very flattering to someone in her position.
It’s one of the reasons why we say so many cases of younger women with older men - psychologically speaking, it’s about stability, security and older men tend to worship young, hot women. You feel adored and special while being secure knowing he won’t leave you (because he’s so infatuated) 🤔 It’s not always on a conscious level.
As I say, of course there are lots of exceptions to this and it’s a very general analysis, but the point is, in this case, she wasn’t with him purely for sexual reasons 😂🤷♀️ Men typically can separate sex and love much more easily than women (again, broadly speaking). While men can just get what they’re looking for and walk away, for women, there’s an emotional element that makes it harder (and for the last time, before anyone jumps down my throat, there are of course exceptions. I’m talking from a psychological perspective that has been studied for a very long time at length lol).
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 exactly
I'll never understand how divorce is a no-no but murder sure. Just friggin leave them.
Divorce is more of a hassle, and murder shuts the chapter on things. Saying divorce is always wrong and so now go murder is just an excuse for weak people like that guy
Why pay for divorce and lose half of everything including the kids, when killing the spouse leaves you with everything and probably a nice life insurance payout to boot?…
you have to be cocky enough to think you'll get away with it "no one will ever figure out my master plan!"
I believe in certain religions, being a divorced “holy man” is worst than being a murderer.
Pretty soon there will be need for divorce attorney”s .
love how the mistress was on the stand describing Matt's incredibly greasy Vasectomy/STD come on like it was the creepiest, most inappropriate thing she'd ever heard. Only to end with; "So then we started having an affair". Classy girl.
Indeed. Absolutely sickening.
Yeah, her John Deere shirt…real classy, girl! 🤮
She was all good with his murder plot and even continued sleeping with him afterward. She's just as guilty for knowingly allowing it to happen. She only ratted after she knew she was going down as his accomplice.
@@jeannievail I wonder when it is under the law when knowledge of a crime becomes aiding and abetting a crime.🤨
Lol I know, I'm sitting here thinking, wait, it worked on you though. I have a feeling there's a different version to that story.
Can you imagine having the temerity to play the victim after you slept with a married man, did nothing to stop him from murdering his wife, knew he did it, then continued to be with him afterward... Unreal. They are both malignant narcissists.
I know right! She is probably busy with just another married man now, and will continue to go through the line!
"temerity", ooh. nice word. stealing that to use for myself! Thanks articulate stranger! Happy youtubing :)
Exactly! She was a part of it without doubt, but she turned on him to save her skin. Horrible woman 😖
CPOrrrrr.. 😂
Not to mention how many killers attempt to kill the next lover once they get away with the first. Especially if they know about the first xD.
Kari's parents were heroic in their determination to see justice done for their daughter. I hope it is some consolation for her surviving daughter to know how much her mother was loved by her parents that they refused to give up and did the police's job for them.
"He couldn't stand how much weight she had gained" meanwhile he looked like a potato that had bumped its way down several sets of basement steps.
😂
😂😂🥔
😂😂😂
Honestly, the mistress looked kinda chunky too. I thought he was a chubby chaser.
@@smolmom She just needed to tone up, she wasn’t really heavy.
He’s upset she “got fat” yet this man has always looked like a toe.
Looked like a toe 🤣🤣🤣
@Cheek Chaser where does look like a toe mean fat???
Exactly. It’s okay for him to be a homely fat ass though….totally acceptable.
@@Karenanneseven Matt’s face looks like a toe.
@@georgedoughly8682 of course. I had a blonde moment 💁♀️
I love how Vanessa acts like she did nothing wrong in this whole situation....
It was inconveniently "taking time out of her schedule"? A woman is dead bitch!
Reprehensible person imo
Yea she’s a real piece of work. She knew about his plan to kill her and did nothing. She could have saved her. She should feel partially responsible for Kari’s death IMO.
She was under the thumb of someone who was very good at manipulating others. True she is not totally innocent but psychopaths and narcissists are incredibly good at manipulating and almost hypnotizing people with lies and bullshit.
She’s the worst kind of Karen
The only reason the mistress gave him up was because she saw the heat he was starting to get from the private investigation, and she knew if they started digging deeper she was going to be linked and held accountable for at least knowing about it! It wouldn’t surprise me if she actually had part in the planning of the murder! No way in hell that you can still have relations with a person who committed such a terrible crime if they aren’t at least okay with the idea!
Wow the girlfriend is a wack job and has the nerve to call him crazy! She should be in jail too! He told her he was gonna kill his wife and she did nothing about it!
Was thinking the exact same thing about her. As if she didn't know how totally wrong it was on her part to even fool with that creep. She knew how wrong it was for him to even joke with her about "dating" and should immediately have left that church and never returned, at the very least. Must be some seriously liberal baptists, lol.
totally agree. i think it's the 'Amber Frey' effect, they want to be famous or something. want to write a book & gain something from it. completely disgusting.. sad they couldn't charge her as well..
She looks like she’s enjoying the attention while feigning she’s a victim.
Agree. Literally was about to say the same
His wife stayed with him even though he had been outed as a perv...
So not only was she okay with sleeping with her married pastor, but willing to stay after he plans his wife’s murder, and claims victim hood.
And whines about how talking to the police is taking time out of her schedule....
Spoiler alert.
She's a real winner, that's for sure.
@@whaghht Don't go into the comment section when you haven't finished the video instead of whining in the comment section about spoilers. This is no cinematic thriller, it is about a person that actually got murdered.
Shes annoyed the shit out of me 🙄
Hes the kind of guy who would think his wife's grieving was "inconvenient" and complains they aren't intimate. RIP Cassidy and Kari.
Sounds a bit like Chris watts
Wonder if he killed the baby..?
@@yanifree114 doubtful the child was very very sick. And treatment might be limited at that age. I wouldn’t put it pass him because the child was “taking too long to die” in his mind
The death of a child often kills the relationship. It takes a few years to finally for that process of grieving to run its course, at which point the couple might not have anything left. And of course, the pain will never go away, like a life-changing injury such as having a habitual drunk driver break your back, or having a creepy dude kill your daughter, the pain will always be there...
I suspect that Matt was the one who lost interest in her, however. He seemed to place physical lust over having something deeper...
@@yanifree114 especially since he was the one to walk in and 'discover' the baby not breathing
The 911 call proving he wasn't doing CPR on her really sealed the deal. I can't believe they didn't do an autopsy on a suicide OD.
All non natural deaths should have a thorough investigation and autopsy.
They had a typed, unsigned note. What more could they need?
Investigation? Autopsy? Not in Texas.
Him saying she was naked when he found her I’m sure was a red flag . A lot of women that commit suicide won’t do it without clothes due to the fact of not wanting to be found in that manner …
I think us men are the same. Very strange to wany to be found that way
I'm sure he did because he used sex and sex pills to drug her. They were effin that night with pills and booze, otc sexual aides but I'm including them here anyway lol
You know this how? Did you interview the dead suicide victims and ask them yourself? Lololol
I thought the same thing. Who kills themselves when they're naked
A lot? So not all? So maybe, just possibly, this one was different
Baffles me that a woman would stay with a man who kills their wife.. you’re that brave that you wouldn’t be next?
Fr !!! what tells you that he won’t get your ass next, once he gets bored
Like the wife waa innocenf herself. The wife stuck by her sex offender husband.
Moral of the story: no, you cannot determine if this is "the one" from a mere 3 months of romantic-type interaction and two, you shouldn't try and commit for the long term in your 20's. The likelihood it will work is so extremely low.
Wait to settle down till your 40's when all of the immature adolescent young adult values pretty much disappear.
FORREAL! Same with anyone that gets involved with somebody who is spoken for then they think that person won’t turn around & cheat on them too!! Yo, they literally SHOWED you their poor character! I just can’t 😒🙄😑
To be fair, women who try to leave violent men often end up becoming targets themselves. It might have been she figured he was just venting and full of shit - talking a big game about something he'd never actually go through with (y'know, like all those people who say they're going to start a band). And then, as he's describing in painful detail how he killed his wife and the police have declared it a suicide, it hits her that he wasn't just a shallow sex-obsessed loser full of impotent rage, but was actually very fucking dangerous.
On the other hand, he said he wanted to kill her because she "got fat" and called her "disgusting". She might well have thought "I'm younger and prettier, he's not gonna do anything to me".
I get more anxiety in my voice ordering food, than that call to 911
😂
Seriously! That should’ve been a red flag right there.
So true
Yep. Recently I called church’s for messing up my order big time and i felt like such a Karen that my Voice was shaking more than anything in that 911 call.
True! 😁
19:00 So.. the girlfriend, Vanessa Bulls, has approximately three weeks' worth of conversations with him about how to kill his wife and she doesn't bother to go to the police. I swear, I wish there were laws to punish people like her.
She's loving her time in court so she can tell on him, but she's also telling on herself. Listen to all those details! She had *multiple* chances to go to the police. Shame on Vanessa Bulls.
Obstruction of justice?
If it's any consolation, I doubt she's on facebook and has to use a fake name if she ever wants to try out a dating site.
I wouldn't touch her with a ten-inch pole.
She's clearly mentally ill and will have to explain her actions to The Almighty if she truly believes there is an afterlife.
Nothing says suicide like a type written note.
Its ridiculous right?
That praises him for being a great Dad.
Plus, I don't think people commit suicide naked.
@Ryker Jett why the hostility? Do you have an anger problem? It's just LWD's opinion.
Exactly! A note that’s not hand written most likely isn’t a suicide
@Frank Marano he seemed really put out about the 400+ compressions.
“Im sorry this is just taking time out of my schedule” girl really.
Accessory to murder is what she is.
@@coolwomabat7897 absolutely
I know right
My first impression as well 😡
They are both garbage
"um yes I believe my wife just committed suicide" he should have added
"Also I would like a large pepsi with my order", with how fucking lifeless that 911 call was
First red flag was how calm he sounded telling the operator his wife had committed suicide. If you love your souse, you would be beyond yourself, not sound calm as hell. Second red flag was that the note was typed. 90% of the time suicide notes are handwritten. I instantly suspected it was him
"Oh I have a dentist appointment at 5 so I hope y'all are gonna get her soon. Kthxbye" he might've added.
He also acted like 400times was too many times!
@@TomboyGirlfriend right I agree 100% it's insane
*Also love your name I'm also a brooke lol
@@Elizabelizard aaah hello fellow Brooke!
I love how Kari's family didn't stop until they found out the truth. As heartbreaking as it is, that monsters in jail. God bless. 🕊️
Rip Kari, your with your darling Angel and condolences to her family and friends. 🕊️
May your children's futures be bright and beautiful. 🌼
“Vanessa Bullshit without the hit.”
Mike you have outdone yourself with that one.
I love him 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This one had me belly laughing
Completely
Lmao Mike is top notch
yeah. real impressive
Matt is the worst in all of this but that mistress is no better. She only told the truth to save herself.
Happens more than we think. Men lie all the time about being in relationships and the rest of the women don’t even care but still act like they didn’t know when they get caught 🙄
Exactly ! She was so horrified by his actions that he continued to be with him.
And the fact that she has a child of her own is sickening to me !!! Would you want your child having to deal with a murdered mother???? Why would you do that to someone else’s kids
@@eduagonzalez i hate that type of women. They shi* constantly in other garden but God beware if someone shi* in hers..egoistic and cold
Would not trust such womens one bit
why didn't she tell someone about Matt's plan. She waits until Kari dies and decides to speak after being subpoenaed. So hypocritical on her part
Does this guy own a mirror? Ironic how he criticises his wife's looks, even though he has aged horribly. Those poor children...
Exactly, plus calling her fat and other obscene names when he himself looks like a walking heart attack!
Really? He doesn't give ya a chub?! Oh well...
@@johnnyholmes8840 Hey man, don't shame people for not having the same exquisite taste as you and I. Not everyone can be so blessed. More muscle bound dreamboat for us!
10:31 he looks like that sex offender in a program called sex lies and sex offenders ... its a educational VHS interviewing real sex offenders who are incarcerated.. sorry if this is random but i gagged cuz it looked like the guy that kept saying "i trained her from 1 years old..she was going to be my perfect mate" just search youtube channel pujarze and the video title is " A Psychopathic Sex Offender - An interview with a real psychopath - Disturbing!" looks just like him...yuckie!
@@kimmyfreak200 I agree, he looks like a complete creep, but based off appearance alone, you kinda look like you might drink blood in your spare time.... A nice blood, cocaine cocktail with Jim Morrison back in the day sound appetizing?
"I have a vasectomy and don't have any STD's"
That's the kind of poetry that sweeps every woman off her feet.
Goddamn that was a calm 911 call. Homeboy didn’t even try to fake the waterworks.
Also, it was really fucking suspicious that she was found naked - why the hell would that not red flag the cops?! A woman of her faith, seems like a modest lady, would be hyperaware of her appearance after death and since it seems premeditated (with the typed out note) it wasn’t a drunken accident. She would’ve had to have planned to take her clothes off and thought she’d be found that way. Never would’ve happened. Makes sense that it was a romantic thing and then he killed her.
Revelation 16:15
“Look, I come like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake and remains clothed, so as not to go naked and be shamefully exposed.”
100% agree
She was probably just a secret nudist, and we learned from pastor Matt that she was into bondage as well... Probably only for reenacting some religious scenes, of course.
I was hoping someone else noticed that. Women don’t want to be found like that.
Maybe he wanted to embarrass her. It’s so disgusting
The fact she literally knew all this and wasn’t gonna say anything shows what kinda person she is tbh
Yah, I didn't quite get all of that. She said he was talking about killing his wife and the ways to do it. She ends up dead, and it didn't even occur to her to maybe go talk to the police after she is found dead.
Because she's more than likely lying. If not, she should be serving the same time as he is as an accessory. She's just as guilty.
@@afcaton1 I’m sure she got immunity for her testimony. There’s literally no upside for her in telling this story if it’s a lie. And Mike did say there were emails that back some of it up.
Yeah! Was the mistress ever charged with… anything? Even a fine!?
It wasn't until after she saw his true colors and it was no longer benefitting her that she turned against him and wanted him arrested! So if everything had kept going great...she would not have said a thing! *Wow! She's as shitty as he is!*
The 911 call is a big red flag, their was no panic in his voice at all!
The phone demeanor of a man ordering a pizza.
Yup, I've made 911 calls in dire situations. I couldn't remember my own street address or directions on how to get there. Couldn't string two words together without stuttering.
Exactly
@@retiredkidbuck I agree, I've always panicked and can't even get words out...
17:46 on . . . . Is it just me or has a witness never been so excited about telling everyone what she knew? And she thinks she was manipulated??? She was pretty excited about manipulating the jury to believe her story. So many evil details.
"I've had a vasectomy and have no stds, wanna date me?" Yeah, that's the line that would make me want to date him. 🤦♀️ And yet she still did.
Right?! WTH?! Then she had the nerve to pretend she was disgusted by him, even though she kept sleeping with him after the murder & covered for him! Grotesque, the both of them!
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Some women are easy and love the fat hairy look, lol
@@paulwoodford6229Desperate times call for desperate measures.
what are you? walking perfection?? such arrogance...
I'm glad Kari's parents pursued an investigation and brought justice for their daughter.
Exactly. I'm also glad that they are raising their two granddaughters...
A married pastor coming onto me would be such a turn off
You would think but some pastors are able to convince women it’s part of gods plan to be together and the women are attracted to a person or position of power in the church….as a pastor I would be scared to death to commit all those taboos in a church 😱
But he has a vasectomy!
Some ladies just love the bad boys
Any pastor coming on to me would be a turn off, lol.
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The "Hand gesture" killed me...... 😂
Love your sense of humor, Mike!!!
Every time Mike comes on the screen and says “hey you” my ten month old boy cracks up uncontrollably. Every time.
Awww!
You might have a future stand up comic there.
@@juliecrane9647 maybe!!! 🤞
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murder stories are great for infants! woo!
The audacity to kill someone & then write yourself a note, from "them", apologizing to... you, their killer.
Also saying what a great dad you are.
Yep it's vomitous.
This woman got involved with a married man, knew everything that he was thinking of doing, and couldn't manage to muster a single tear while making herself look like a delicate little victim on the stand. Those two deserved each other.
Like fr!!! I was honestly disturbed by how matter a fact she was speaking like girl… you understand you talking about a woman THAT YOU KNEW (and you yourself said was a nice person) being murdered by her husband and you knowing about it before hand and actively not doing anything to stop it. Like do you understand that!?
VANESSA IS A HOTTIE. HOTTIES ALWAYS WIN
@@seferkeshet i‘m sorry but she ain‘t even hot she‘s just manipulative and loves to talk a lot
She did half heartedly try to squeeze out a tear but just couldn't manage a single measly one . What a despicable pos .
Good on her ex husband lol
The mistress is completely innocent here. She knew he was planning the murder, he told her after he committed the murder and she broke up with him because they suspected him of murder but never once went to the cops. A real saint, this one here.
I was so disgusted when he said I think she urinated on herself and that it smelled like it. He was probably mad at her dead body for being so "gross", just like he was mad at her for being so fat (um, she wasn't?). No emotion whatsoever during that call. What a vile monster!
Ikr? And then when he's being instructed to do chest compressions that we all know damn well he is NOT doing, he finds it more important to ask the 911 operator if he should unlock the door and then mentions that he needs to call her parents. Yes, doing those two things are definitely more important than trying to do CPR on your wife. Ewww.
Must have been difficult for him.
Y'know,with him being so handsome and everything.
Wtf dead peoples bodies poop and pee long after death I guess he didn't watch ask a mortician lady.
I guess he forgot to clean his mirror to take a long good look at himself first! It would have saved him some breath from criticizing his innocent wife and her looks! Vile a$$hole!
@@kerrya2477 giggles!
Mike: ”Back in 2006.”
Me: “Only a few years.”
Mike: “15 long years ago.”
Me: (crumbles to dust)
😂 I know right?
Time is a fast moving train that stops for noone.
Frrrr
Right..
I mean I'm only 30 but find it crazy that I work with adults that basically don't even know what 9/11 was like
Me too
Kari looks absolutely miserable in every picture/video. It’s really heartbreaking.
Vanessa sounds like she was on-site, very detailed memory for someone getting second-hand stories
That poor wife. Sounds like a terrible life and instead of him trying to help her with her grief he used it against her. He is the lowest of the low, especially pretending to be a minister to others.
"pretending"
That's about as Baptist as you can get. xD
Lol
Pretending? This is pretty standard. Most ministers just don't face the law.
@@chevgage6210 ya, I know some very real ministers though who show their struggles and don't pretend to be anything other than humans trying.
@@HamburgerAmy No, that's about as sadly human as you can get -- and tends to be VASTLY worse without faith or religion. Officially atheist governments murdered tens of millions (think Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot, for starters). I'd take Baptists (in general) over them, any day (as would you, I trust) -- and I'm not even remotely a Christian.
If the mistress had said everything prior to the murder, that she did at trial she could of saved a life. How can she sleep at night? Then she has the sheer audacity to act the victim.
could have*
Ikr! She’s doing all of that shakey voice acting, trying not to go to prison. Suddenly, she’s angry and calling the guy manipulative.
@@TheScienceguy77 *I don't care. You understand what I was trying to say, you're just being petty.
They love being the victim meanwhile they still have their lives smh
@@pinkystichy I was just letting you know of a mistake you're making to correct it in the future so that you don't sound like an illiterate mouthbreather. Getting this defensive over being grammatically corrected is actually petty.
What a pick up line! “I had a vasectomy, I can’t get you pregnant, I don’t have any std’s and my wife is clueless”. And Vanessa says to herself I’ll go for that? 🤢🤮
Straight up.
Haha rightttt. Vanessa clearly has super high standards. 🤦🏻♀️😂
We all know what caliber of a person Vanessa is. Is anyone surprised that she knew what he was gonna do and didn’t do a damn thing to stop it, nor report him after? If that gross pick-up line worked on her, then I, for one, am not surprised
I always binge watch these videos and have to stop for my mental health and come back months later to binge watch and catch up.
I can’t believe that Vanessa is for real trying to cry during her testimony as if she had no idea that he planned to murder his wife and had been telling her the ways he had thought to do it.
She is just as much as a monster as he is.
Yeah like ok so he's telling you all about how he wants to kill her and all of his ideas so what the hell is she sitting there saying?? So obviously you didn't try to stop him or tell anyone what he planned to do and that to me is just as damn guilty and evil!!!!!!
SHE'S A BRAVE SOUL. AND PRETTY. PRIME
and how she tried to play the victim in court. She knew he had a wife but tried to act like it wasn't her fault she slept with him
@@seferkeshet You know you can pay for a prostitute. You don't need to be so desperate for a pretty woman
The girlfriend should have soooo gone to jail! She could have saved that woman! Shame on her!
that is for sure.
Correct
Yup, the DA probably gave her immunity in exchange for her testimony, so no jail and I don't think she has the capacity to feel shame.
Hopefully karma will catch up with her...
You seem to forget the nature of Vanessa's predicament. Even if she heard him talk shit about his wife, she didn't necessarily believe that he was going to kill her. Then once she realizes that he did kill her, that if she displeased him she could be next....
Interviewed about a murder.
"I don't mind talking to you guys but this is taking time out of *my* schedule"
I laughed because I couldn't anticipate her saying that
She’s a narcissist, two peas in a pod
Everything's about herself. I wonder how many more lives she's ruined in her pursuit of a freeloading life since then.
At this time she was just being interviewed like anyone would including the husband… the fact she would say the when she knew detail by detail of HOW he murdered her she is directly involved
@L Train45 she doesn't have to, but she knew that he'd killed her and said nothing.
Oh look, it's Vanessa under her alt account "L Train45".
Either that or this L Train fk is a bit daft.
The eldest daughter lost her baby sister and her mother.... Absolutely awful. I hope she's safe and loved after all this xxx
Vanessa's straight out of a mean girl 80s teen flick. Not buying what she's selling....she could've prevented Kari's demise and chose not to.
That's a whole other level of evil there...
For real!!!! She should've got some kind of charge for knowing that and not saying anything until ish hit the fan!!! 🤔
Yup, she isn't a victim - the whole thing could have been prevented if she'd reached out to Kari or the police. Matt is obviously a POS but then quite a lot of pastors tend to be unfortunately. That pretend CPR was so unconvincing.
@@I-C-Y-U-N-V Probably took a plea deal.
@Peter Shead "Piece Of Shit"
It’s crazy to think that if her family didn’t get involved he would’ve completely gotten away with it
She has an affair with a married man and listens to the many ways he wants to kill his wife and does nothing!? She did nothing because they probably thought of these ways together, hoping he would get away with it so they could be together. I'm not buying her fake tears and innocent act, she knew his plan from the beginning and she should have some type of charge too.
How could she be attracted to someone who approached her that way, and after he talked about his wife so hideously, not to mention sharing plans to murder her with her. I am just in shock.
Shes a horrible human being, just like him.
K. S Exactly she never said a thing and carried on seeing that monster.
Agreed. Vile.
Totally agree with you. What a complete lowlife she is too. Just as guilty of murder as he was. Watching her testify infuriated me because you can tell how much she was loving the attention.
I have an injured foot, and Netflix, AppleTV and Hulu, all that I pay for. But, here I am, binge watching your free YT channel and I can't stop. If I had to say what I'm learning from your channel, it would be 1) the next time someone asks me why I never remarried, I will refer them to your channel, and 2) never, ever take out life insurance, or reveal who is in your Will. Also, a side, keeping an ocean between me and my American family feels more and more like a wise decision. Geez....families.
If my pastor talked like that about his wife. I'd quickly realize I was in the wrong church.
Absolutely!!!
Indeed! ....and I think it's safe to say that 'pastor Matt' never preached on Ephesians 5:25: "Husbands love your wives" ...yeah pretty sure he didn't.
all churches are wrong and they should pay taxes.
He is going straight to HELL!
No such thing as the right Church
Ladies if your pastor hits on you its time to get the hell out of that church. If your pastor talks about killing his wife its time to call the cops! What the Hell Vanessa?????
It's ok if the pastor is hot 🔥 😏
Religious people are sheep 🐑🐑🐑 what are you expecting
If ur married pastor hits on you I agree, but if he's nice and unmarried, it's fine. Depending on how he handles himself, that is.
@@meghanschuler4739 I agree with that
That 911 call was one of the most emotionless calls I’ve ever heard and I’ve watched a lot of these
Yah, you are right.
Especially ALL that talking he was doing. I am an RN. You cannot talk like he was and do chest compressions that fast. It takes literally ALL YOUR ENERGY. Your sole focus is on positioning, the depth and counting how many you are doing. One person CPR is hard. He most definitely wasn't doing them...
@@detrajackson5992 For real. Compressions are the single most fatigue-inducing thing I have ever done, and I made it through SERE school.
Emotionless yes, but probably more convincing than when the murderer tries to cry and wail, and sounds fake.
Right? 😂
It is so sad how two people can go from being in Love to one wanting to literally kill the other, then actually getting it done.
She was STILL with him after he confessed killing his wife and how he did it to her??? Woah. I will never fathom how you can kill your spouse and the parent of your kids.
You and me both, I just can't wrap my head around it!!!🙏🤔
Only talked so she wouldn’t be implicated, just like NK.
I thought the same thing untill I got married………no one can hurt you more then you spouse especially if there trying for years. I personally would never but I do see how someone could be brought to it.
Or your child!!!!!
@@chriswalsh6893 I think people might think about it but to really plan it?? Wicked and evil.
"I've had a vasectomy.... and I have no STDs" - pick up lines have lost a lot of poetry over the years.
It's craigslist material for 🙄🙄🙄
😂😂😂
Casanova 🤣
I'm childfree and I'd love it if a man told me he had a vasectomy
Yes he is such a silver tongued devil
I can't stand to listen to the mistress play herself off as a victim or cry when recounting how he killed his wife.
She KNEW before and after what was up and didn't say a dang thing. I would have charged her too.
You would have charged her with what? That's not how law works, kiddo. Vanessa is the only reason that Matt is in prison for the murder he committed. The police would have had no evidence without her testimony, and Matt would be walking free. But go ahead and focus on attacking her instead of the murderer.
@@amityislandchum
I am not a legal expert but can see that she is guilty as well. While her testimony helped put the husband away her inaction led to the murder.
The reason I'm not addressing the husband is because he was served justice while she got away free and clear all while playing the "victim."
Maybe I would have charged her with murder 1 too and then cut a deal with her to still get her testimony. Maybe she would have gotten a very reduced sentence or none at all. At least her name would carry a murder 1 charge and her reputation would be as a murderous mistress rather than what she portrayed.
I am sure she had a pre-deal to tell everything she knew and to get immunity
Yup. And you can just bet when he would've been done with her, he'd kill her too.
She is an Accessory but no doubt was given an Immunity Deal because he was the bigger fish. Pity. Justice would see her locked up as well.
I feel so bad for the wife. this story mad me sad af
So he said his wife was clueless, intimated that he had cheated on her previously and said he was disgusted with how far his wife had gotten, yet this ridiculous woman thinks “This is the guy for me!”….. the mind boggles.
Wouldn't be the first time. Heck, look how many women try to strike up romances with known murderers. In many churches, there are women who become infatuated with church pastors. They're authority figures and they're allegedly speaking the truth of God. The smarter pastors adopt rules so they are never put in a compromising position around women not their wife. Not that Baker would feel that way. I fully believe he initiated this. He didn't need anyone to help him cheat on his wife.
EXACTLY WHAT IM THINKING. He told her all his plans of killing his wife and she was riding the wave like this was normal. Now he's this big manipulative liar and took advantage of her. What!?
That’s a woman for ya
Yeah, she's lovely.
@@marquesterry3585 He was in the position to manipulate. He was a minister. The cops didn’t question him, his congregation didn’t question him. And his wife didn’t question his shenanigans - she stayed with him.
Did anyone in hindsight wonder about the baby’s death? Matt “found” her too.
Maybe he had insurance on the baby.
I think because she had a brain tumor, the death was not looked into.
I immediately wondered about that… I’m curious if any other videos covering this case mention how he was with his kids 🤔 Just to give better insight into the likelihood that he would do something like that.
That was my first thought.
Yep. He was the one that found her and she had “stopped breathing”. Definitely think he could’ve killed her too
NO WOMAN who had concerns about her body weight would be naked to commit suicide--she would never want to be found unclothed. EVERY woman knows that.
while i agree with you, how do you know she had concerns about her body weight? it was her husband who said she was a 'fat bitch'. doesn't necessarily mean she herself had any problems with her body 🤷🏻♀️
@@jsteiner93 I have seen this story covered on more than one show. Her family even brought up this point when questioning the suicide verdict. Her husband hounded her about her weight and it caused her much grief.
@@kathy8013 ah okay, i didn't know that! and despite what i said in my previous comment, it does make total sense that it wouldn't leave her unaffected. the person that's supposed to love you no matter what becoming such a bully to you must be awful.
This is an interesting point I didn’t consider.
In general most women wouldn’t commit suicide naked.
If she “had trouble sleeping” and took pills regularly, she would have a high tolerance. Love when they say someone took something, to set up that it’s not abnormal that they took it and died, but no one ever brings up that tolerances to drugs you OD on build SUUUPER fast.
That is the coldest, most unemotional 911 call I have ever heard.
I never understand how a woman thinks that what a man did to his ex, in this case murder, won’t eventually happen to them.
Exactly !
I cannot count the number of women who were surprised that their man cheated on them when they themselves hooked up with the guy when he had a girlfriend already.
I hope his mistress caught some form of charges seeing as how she knew of everything 🤨
They never do
Of course not, she was in a "vulnerable state"
I definitely got an accomplice vibe more than a witness vibe..
No kidding rite, that's what I was thinking. Because she knew after it happened so for her not saying anything wouldn't she be like implicated or something to that sort??
Unfortunately I bet she got nothing. I know she was star witness but she's no different than one criminal rolling over on another. She should have gotten something, anything, 5 years maybe. Its sickening hearing a pastor/priest being part of any murder plot, especially being THE murderer.
Hope he rots in prison and his mistress is ousted by the community.
His demeanour on the 911 call was the first and massive red flag for me. If I found a loved one dead, suicide or otherwise I wouldn’t be able to form sentences I don’t think. It doesn’t matter if he’s used to staying calm, he’s just a bit too calm for me
Nobody writes "continue to be a great father" in such a note.
Omg he was such a narcissist that, in the "suicide note", he had his wife apologize for her failings and also be his personal hype woman 🤦♀️
@@gidget3467 Indeed ...he's a malignant narcissist.
I'm amazed that she failed to mention how he'd had a vasectomy and no stds in the note.
@@TiffyVella1 LOL!!!
THE great father! I lmao when I saw that😂
A damn TYPED LETTER?! Please don’t even try tell me anyone who knew it was typed believed he was innocent for even a second. Especially after the compliment at the end. Psychopath to a T
A naked victim and a typed letter... the investigators who ruled it a suicide should be ashamed of themselves
If someone is suicidal (been there, done that, failed miserably thanks to the police) and if they leave a note it would most likely contain an apology and reasons or motivation for taking their own life. It would not contain thoughts of others, children included.
If you're still thinking about your children you're not suicidal xx
I can’t believe they didn’t even do toxicology at the time!
Those poor little girls- I hope they are ok.
I hope (and bet) that Kari's family are looking after them.
how can you date someone that talks about their children’s mother like that, and they were still married. It blows my mind how any women believes they will treat you any better. She holds accountability in this as well, not telling anyone or warning or not engaging. Those children lost both parents and I hope that eats at her for the rest of both their lives
I blame The "I can fix him" mindset
He told her all of this in detail and she STILL stayed with him???? She is not a victim here, she is a person who knew EXACTLY what was going on and rationalized his actions out of blind love. Once she realized she was looped into his crime, she seemed to have become the "victim". Bless the kids who lost their mother and strength to her family.
Sounds like you've had quite the privilege of never having to be in survival mode during an abusive relationship.
@@chevgage6210 right...its easy to point fingers and know how someone should feel.
Though he seems to need more convincing, it may be not be the case. It is easy to think a prson who maintains such stance is naive, he or she may just remain hopeful and less stoic. As a previously abused soul, I would like to be able to see the sunny side of things.
@@chevgage6210 she had no business sleeping with him in the first place. She knew he was married.
Please, get out of victim mode already! There was was NO ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP between the pastor & mistress...I get SO TIRED of the mental gymnastics some women project in order to absolve other women of their accountability for their grown-woman choices in conduct AND MEN. Men do NOT have magical powers to brainwash or manipulate or cloud women's minds and "force them into actions that they would not normally do". Each of us is responsible for our own behavior, NO MATTER what anyone else does; to believe otherwise is to abrogate our acknowledgement of ourselves as AUTONOMOUS BEINGS. The pastor was a POS who murdered his wife & the mistress was a POS who tried to cover herself with the 'victim cape' without realizing that it was poor cover indeed. Some women (& some men) need to grow TF UP; LIFE IS NOT A FAIRY TALE!
@@joaddahtezembong724 You need to read up more on psychopath's and Domestic Violence issues.
My husband and I got married 3 weeks after we met. That was 38 years ago. Somehow we hav managed not to kill each other.
Y'all got life insurance??? 😂😂
...yet...
There's still time...
Just kidding, I love stories like yours, so rare but amazing that two people can meet and just know.. God bless you 🙏
Thought I was fast at 6 months.3 of those was the legal requirement ( had to put a notice in the newspaper or something. .lol. ) 23 years together now. He's the nest.
Don’t get life insurance!!!
As soon as you said he found her nude, I thought "nope, didn't happen like that." She would have been dressed if she knew that she was not going to wake up again.
Yep
Csi taught me that 20 yrs ago, rookie mistake. Shows you how sensitive he was to half his ministry.
Yes studies show actually that with regard to suicide, men dont often seem to focus on appearance, where as women do tend to groom themselves somewhat beforehand. (Often found with make up on, hair done)
@@sarabobara8458 and don't like to leave messes for others to clean up
@@sarabobara8458 Exactly, and as a religious woman, wife of a pastor, she would have been horrified to imagine anyone finding her like that. Modesty and dignity don't go out the window when you are suicidal.
I love the theme music. It's creepy and perfect for your channel. Great job xx
It’s kinda funny how the mistress tells all these bad stories about him hitting on her and yet still had an affair with a married man… then didn’t tell the police they he was planning to kill his wife! she’s just raging she’s not getting a free phone now
I know like all the sudden she found Jesus ? Her testimony sounds vindictive?
Yeah, what is up with that? First of all, wouldn't any truly religious person be a. Anti-affair and have turned him down when he hit on her because EW, b. Not like the way he spoke about his wife bc it's not very Christian (plus if he talks about his wife like that, he will talk about you like that!), c. Not be cool with him detailing the murder plans? Like, again, I don't think a basic thinking person would think that was "godly behavior," let alone a religious one. This is not a pastor or cult leader having sway over an innocent brainwashed mind. This is basic common sense and gross behavior that could never be justified. He broke at least 4 commandments right there. Idk there were so many red flags here that everything she says makes no sense and is just a pathetic justification for her own behavior. There are no redeeming or attractive qualities to such a man, and the fact that she "fell" for this is truly pathetic.
@@marielehleitner3643 Yeah, those two aren't really religious. They're fucking monsters using religion as a shield to hide their disgusting actions.
Yeah, this thing annoying me about her
She probably got a plea deal if she confessed everything otherwise if she knew and didn’t say anything at all she would’ve ha some time in prison as well
I agree with commenters, Vanessa could have saved her if she told his wife what he was planning.
She was being manipulated, and I'm sure he was good at that.
@Peppi Roni true i should probably kill my husband because he doesnt have his gym body anymore.
@Peppi Roni dude how many times are you gonna comment this? hahahaha
@Peppi Roni Donald Trump is literally fat dude
@Peppi Roni I’m guessing you’re purely trolling at this point so I’m not even gonna dignify this with a counter argument lol
That was an awfully calm 911 call considering he just found his 'beloved' wife dead.
And Vanessa... wtf, man? She's a little Nicole Kessinger.
“I’m doing chest compressions. Really, I’m doing it! Seriously, just pushing away here.”
Exactly!!
That's exactly what I was thinking. Its very telling when you hear/see how people react in the aftermath of things like this. I know people are often in shock and do crazy things that can seem weird but when someone is that calm, surely it's a mahooosiv red flag?
Rip Miss. Such a shame you ever met this POS.
💯
If she had been dead for an hour or more, I can honestly see not bothering, as she didn't take their daughters with her would be my next concern if she really killed herself. After all, there is a change to the eyes once someone has passed that tell you they won't come back no matter home much you want them to...
You seem to forget the nature of Vanessa's predicament. Even if she heard him talk shit about his wife, she didn't necessarily believe that he was going to kill her. Then once she realizes that he did kill her, that if she displeased him she could be next...
Mike you are absolutely the best storyteller. Let’s give it a goooo !
Mike: "Thinking about adding the ol fingerguns to the intro."
Me: "More life insurance dance."
Same! 🕺🏽 that dance is where it's at! 💯🤣
Mix it up, both at the same time!
anyone have a link to said dance?
@@damagecontrol7 he hasn't done it in awhile, if you watch his older videos, I'm sure you'll see a few instances of the dance 😉
MOAR LIFE INSURANCE DANCE
Yeah honey, you weren't a consenting adult in all of this, at all. Vanessa should be held on impeding an investigation, withholding important information, and protecting a criminal. I'm not entirely sure she didn't egg this on either.
She received immunity for her testimony.
She was qilling to sleep with him before and after he killed the wife. She knew he was gonna do it and didn't stop it. She knew he did it and didn't speak up. How did she not get convicted?
I agree, she should have faced charges too, but I think without her co-operation they wouldn't of had much of a case, she was their only option, unfortunately and probably got immunity because of that.
She was probably granted immunity to testify against him, with her facts about it, & his statements to her were crucial to the case, in getting a guilty verdict.
I've seen plenty other cases where people in her shoes got some time. Guess it depends on the town, jury and judge.
Omg yes "finger guns to the ol 'routine'"😂 that was too cute
He sure talked a lot for someone doing CPR. Wasn't even breathing heavy...
I can only surmise he must have seen that episode of the The Office where they do it and thought the way Kevin did it was the way to go.
I was thinking the same thing. You would think he would be encouraging his wife to come back, saying things like “please don’t leave us” or maybe a prayer…being a minister and all.
@@Ligeia_Ravin You never know what you might say in that situation, but he was pretty calm. Possibly too calm.
@@cade377 I know I wouldn’t be in that situation- pretending to give CPR to my spouse that I just murdered! I’m saying what an innocent person may use his breath to say since every second is precious to revive her. 😐
@@Ligeia_Ravin I hear ya. :)
Whenever I hear "They were a perfect couple" I immediately know it's not gonna end well for the spouse...
“They were the perfect couple, until they weren’t. Let’s give it a goo”
Why isn’t his woman in jail? I can’t believe she is so nonchalant about this!
She is guilty! She did not report this. She is just as guilty. I am so sick this poor woman is dead, and I see no remorse. God will judge them both for this terrible act. Prayers for her babies and family. Rip Carrie 🥲🙏🏼
Because she's....women and juries will show sympathy to her lies?
Reminds me of Chris watts mistress in her interview videos. Absolutely shocking how evil people like this attract eachother.
Because they had so little evidence on Matt and needed her testimony, so probably gave her a deal.
"Pastor" Matt was the preacher at a church in Dallas that my wife attended. I went with her one Sunday and met "pastor" Matt. When I shook his hand, there was something about him made my skin crawl. One creepy individual. When we heard he had murdered his wife, I was shocked, but not surprised. His wife was a very nice lady and sure deserved better. May she rest in peace.
The thing I always think about when it comes to these spousal murders, is when the kids are now left without their mother or father, and have to carry the burden of a tragic family history. Matt Baker is a monster not just for his actions, but also what they resulted in for his children.
*THIS* ☝️
It breaks my heart to think about how they now have to deal with life on their own but also carrying this tragedy. To take a loving mother from her children... just so monstrously selfish I can't even articulate it properly.
Exactly this.
This.
And the eldest daughter had to deal with her sister dying, too.
real crumby
The "no sex before marriage will speed things up a bit"... Mike tellin' it like it is!!
Mormons found a way around it.
I was literally just thinking "Damn its about that time"
It’s about that time for That Chapter
I literally get that feeling
Haha same I started my pre-work workout and was like "Mike must be about toupload any minute" and it popped up at the top of my feed.
Indeed it is!
👊Right??! ah! had tht same exact thought here! 😉💚
THANK YOU for clarifying that most preachers are good honest people and are not like Matt.