It is beyond disgusting to me that during the interviews they all say that 'Tia had sex with Trent', instead of 'Trent raped Tia' like it's all her fault that this happened. She didn't deserve any of this
That’s exactly what I was thinking! And then when he said he “couldn’t look at either of them” , I was like huuuuuh?? There’s such a disconnect it’s disgusting.
@@annaohare8263 You have rape laws though and this was rape for sure. I guess they couldn't prove it though, this whole story is sickening, I've heard of it before I think I blocked a lot of it out of my head. I hate hearing about things like this done to helpless kids.
@@Nikki_the_G Yeah I'm guessing that they couldn't prove it or the proof wasn't strong enough because we actually are pretty strict regarding statutory rape laws in Australia, so they had to settle charging him with incest instead. It makes me sick that he is out free walking the streets now
Further to this tragic story, the father was recently convicted of the sexual abuse of a number of children in the care of his wife’s home daycare centre. In my opinion the wife has a lot to answer for. These stories absolutely break my heart 💔💔💔
@@lilyt18 Or the victim, Tia. If Trent, a grown adult man, had “sex” (it’s rape, even if Tia agreed to it) with Tia I’m sure Rick could’ve done stuff too. The entire family is disgusting. They all murdered her by failing to do the right thing and Trent being charged for what he did. Instead Rick decides to “take care of it” and killed an innocent child that they were supposed to protect.
@Salty Syren A lot of them aren't even damaged. They are simply just incapable of feeling any emotion except 2. Happiness they are getting what they want or anger that they aren't.
I hate stories about kids where every adult failed them miserably and in turn , never really stood a chance at a decent life. Everybody deserves a damn chance!
@@starlightsparkles4697 yeah that’s why it’s important to vote!! It’s the judges who fail these children and not the child protective workers, Those workers are way underpaid and overworked trust me I know first hand. Sad the rich conservative higher ups makes all the decisions. They rather spend millions on housing children in Random hotels with other bad kids having sex and all kinds of nonsense while the workers are getting punched and kicked and spit on by these kids and made into glorified baby sitters just because the state refuses to find them proper placement/homes. It’s very sad. Please vote for better judges and state representatives.
@@binnes117 her biological mom chose to do drugs, party and dump her responsibilities for the child she chose to bring into the world of on the system. She ABSOLUTELY failed her daughter. Are you kidding me???
Knew the mother was in on it as soon as she told the police she said "How could you let that happen?" to Trent, instead of "How could you do that?" Passive language instead of acknowledging his fault.
I think what frustrates me most about this story is every single one of them saying "he had sex with". No. That was not sex. He raped that poor girl. So infuriating
Your right the dad was a terrible person. Prob beat his wife and maybe her. No one defending him. My dad used to beat me with a belt till I was bleeding and broke my nose a few times. But as a 8 year old child I couldn't stop him if he hit my mother. He never did just making a point a child is scared of his father.
Might sound wrong but I would want too foster A girl cause listening to what my mom and her sisters went through. Just rather a girl shouldn't have to go through that.
@@drxcyclopessdrx3920 For sure. Foster care can really be misunderstood. I don’t know which is worse, being abused/neglected by your bio parents or by foster parents? Both are awful and I wish it never happened
The fact they tried to paint her as a troubled child, bc she would run away but she was trying to escape. My heart was heavy watching this bc she didn't deserve this.
If only she could've got to someone to tell them what was going on and them actually do something about it. It's so heartbreaking that her mother gave her up to give her a better life and these pieces of ish did this do her. I hope the father and son gets battered daily.
That is the worst life a person could be dealt in my opinion. Born to parents that don't want you then given to people like this while going through your most important development years as a person. I don't see how anybody could be normal growing up this way that beyond sad and shows how unfair life can be.
@@robbybee70 it's honestly a desperate situation especially now in the US with the opioid epidemic. There are so many children going into the system and not enough families to take them. The ones that would be good parents usually don't apply to become foster parents for whatever reasons and unfortunately many that do don't for the best reasons of the children. It's a sad situation most people aren't even aware of they need to make adoption easier for American parents. But because of the difficulties many go overseas to adopt. I have a family member that works as a social worker she has a big heart and that job crushed her so to speak.
What a nightmare. A vulnerable mum trying to do the right thing, and a middle class family of monsters in essence grinds up and devours her child like the junk food they peddled. I am horrified and so sorry for this poor young girl.
Recently a facebook post has gone around telling girls to be aware of his Tinder account, but disgustingly a lot of women don’t care about what he did.
The person at child protection services who ignored the reported abuse had a duty of care to get Tia out of that situation. They should have stood trial also.
Precisely !! But why is it that every time something like this happens, and Dear God it happens far too often, the people responsible for looking out for these children never seem to be punished ?
It The judges that have the final word not the workers. Some y’all need to do more research before you make yourself sound stupid on social media. All those workers are way overworked and underpaid. Trust me I know first hand. Meanwhile the states conservatives are at home in the air conditioned making 100,000 a year and the workers who are getting kicked, pinched and spit on by these kids are not even making half that and have to work their asses off for a small salary and put in 60 hours a week to be glorified babysitter because the state don’t want to find proper placement/homes for them. Some y’all have no clue what really goes on.
@@Jordanfiend361 what are you talking about...foster carers are paid over 450 a week for each child and for kids with special needs much more...social services deliberately ignore abuse in foster placements as they don’t want to admit they take kids from loving homes and put them with abusers. The system is broken and diseased from the core.
@@Jordanfiend361 Overworked and underpaid ? So is everyone !! If you're paid to protect a child, PROTECT THEM !! Don't blame it on the judges, in MY personal experience they almost never go against the recommendations of the case worker. Maybe you should do more research before you spout off about others looking stupid.
Exactly. The definition of "care" in many families seems to be having their kids name or face printed on stupid T-shirts at their funeral, rather than putting the child's needs FIRST, from birth - and raising them properly. It's too late to show "love" once the child is gone.
@@michaela9967 you can say that but sometimes you think you can. You think you have the right capabilities and support systems and then realize after the baby is born you can't, and that parenthood is way harder than anyone tells you it is. Mum thought she was doing the right thing giving her up because she couldn't take care of her. Unfortunately the people who were supposed to take care that baby were demons in the flesh.
One of the more horrifying stories I’ve seen on here. These people literally discussed how they were going to get rid of her, like she was dirty laundry or a bag of trash. Simply horrific
I'm sure if on those rare days she was happy the thought of no1 truly caring was always lingering. That was my case anyways. I was never truly happy I just pretended to be. It's a survival mechanism.
It was a very huge story here in Australia and very sad. I'm surprised they were even allowed to foster care because we have very strict rules and regulations and red tape that it makes it very hard. I spoke to one of the foster care organisations managers and she said I wouldn't be approved because I had some clutter neatly arranged but no space for it to go in a cupboard. My home isn't dirty and it is kept neat and tidy but just that pile would be enough to not be approved, oh and also 1 small window in my house had a white sheet as a curtain at the time because I hadn't found the specific size curtain needed for that window. I would have to fix that LOL
The killer acting as pallbearer at his victim's funeral, wearing a purple shirt to blend in with those grieving for the child he murdered. I'd give him twenty years for that alone.
The worst kind of person is someone who will kill another then go to their funeral and cry like there is a special place in hell for you if you do that
@13:30 That unnatural mother, telling about when her son confessed a “sexual encounter “ with Tiah. “Oh mate how could you *let* something *like that* happen?” I’m an Aussie, live quite close to all the named sites, but I’ve never heard that particular little gem before. I don’t think there’s many people who hear of sending a twelve year old girl into a foster situation with two teenage males and don’t think it’s a bad idea. If it’s been a long term foster and they’ve grown up as brother and sister, that’s one thing. But at the ages of all the children, when the foster care started it shouldn’t have happened.
My dad would LITERALLY, in the most legit sense of the word, kill me if I did anything CLOSE to this and then go to jail for it. This is disgusting. That's not saving your child, it's enabling it. Legit disgusting. This is such a sad story. That poor little girl.
Of course, considering the father also molested a bunch of smaller kids from his wife's in-home daycare... it's not even a matter of protecting his child. It's just a monster finding excuses to destroy anything that threatens him.
The fact that Trent confessed to doing that to the poor girl and yet wasn’t charged nor did he face any extended time in jail shows that this is an international problem of under-punishing such heinous crimes against kids.
He did get charged with perjury, interfering with the course of justice and incest. He got four years, of which he probably served a minute amount. And while his ass did get beaten whilst in jail, I think he should've been charged with her death as well, murder three (it is a charge), and should've served a lot more time (which would've meant a lot more ass whoopings.) RIP Tia, I'm so,so sorry everyone failed you.
The western “justice” system is committed to white privilege and supremacy, and allowing white men to do whatever they want and to whomever with simply a slap on the wrist
I’m kind of saddened by the huge number of people who showed up after she was dead than the people who helped her when she was alive. She obviously was running away for a reason and no one took it seriously. I know foster care case workers are over worked and the system is horrible. The fact that everyone in her life who was supposed to protect her ended up leaving her, failing, and hurting her is just so sad.
Kids run away for little reasons all the time. My own sister ran away because she didn't want to have a curfew when she was 14 or so. Hindsight is 20/20. I can imagine just how many kids in the foster system just don't want to be in the home they're placed in. Having a family forced upon you who may be nothing like what you are used to, who don't connect with you because you're just different. Not bad or a problem child, just different. The fact that cps needs to exist is a tragedy in itself, and all the good intentions people have can only go so far. I'm sure there's a caseworker out there whose shoulders carry a lot of guilt over misreading Tia's plight. But the only people who deserve blame are the ones directly responsible.
@@skachor that foster family cared more about their social standing then that poor little girl! I can't imagine how tortured her birth mother must be!! Giving her up to keep her safe rather than giving up the abusive relationship. My mom did kinda the same but I was 17 and it turned out very successful but her choice hurt as you can imagine.
I lived 15 minutes away from where they lived and it’s always hit so close to home, Tia didn’t deserve any of this and at the beginning of this I was already calling the family POS because well, they are! Trent should’ve gotten more time, and when the report came out that he was beaten up in jail, well that made me smile he deserves it and more. I hope Rick is getting the same treatment. That family can burn in hell. RIP Tia you beautiful soul, I wish you never had to go through this, you would have still been alive today ❤️❤️
Can’t BELIEVE that vile excuse for a human fucking being carried that precious baby’s casket after robbing her of her life! There’s a special place in Hell for monsters like him. This case is absolutely heartbreaking. Everyone failed her and she never really had a a chance. RIP Tiahleigh🕊
They say our world is becoming overpopulated. Those committing murder and sex crimes against children should be the first to give up their space and air. I don’t want to share with this bastard.
The worst part (for Cindy) was that she did the right thing. She gave up her daughter that she loves to protect her. Why would they place a 12 year old girl in a house with teenage boys?
Right!??! I'm seriously furious the foster "mom" only got 18 fucking months!!! You get more in the US for selling drugs! She deserves LITERALLY everything bad that happens to her for the rest of her life.
That one really broke my heart. How alone she must have felt. My son is 13, almost 14 and I still at night get his bed ready, often we talk and laugh before he goes to sleep and I always still kiss him on the forehead as I have all his life and I tell him how much I love him, and yeah he is a very typical teenager but I know deep down he appreciates this and wants it also cause also I am his only parent. Every child deserves at least one person in their life that will do anything for them, love them unconditionally no matter what and go to any lengths for them and their safety and welfare and that will always have a time for them also. It is so heartbreaking that Tia didn´t have anybody, she was all alone and placed with 4 monsters and one monster raped her and other monster killed her !!!!
@@IrisFlowerAndRainbow i do this with my boy too, he is 11 now and there is just me and him in our house, i’ll always be him mummy and he will always be my baby! Even when he is much older than bond will never change. All children deserve this. I agree ❤
She probably saved herself from that by not being present in the house when the murder took place. If she'd been there I think she would have picked up a conspiracy charge, if not be a codefendant to the murder charge. Australian law is relatively similar to US in regard to those offences, even if the court proceedings have some differences.
Yep, that family's priority was to protect the 19 year old rapist, not his 12 year old victim. They all belong in jail for life! It's utterly sickening that vulnerable child was delivered on a plate to her rapists and murderer.
But I think the dad wanted to also protect himself because if the authorities came to investigate the rape of Tia, they'd also find out about the dad abusing the dayhome kids so it was also out of self preservation too. Pieces of shit, the lot of them.
I know Tialeighs Paternal Father Andy well, there is more to this case anyway one disgusting point about self preservation with that Trent was he accused Tialeigh of threatening to kill his dog if he did not sleep with her, the lying rat, it just goes to show how narcissistic these people really are he got off basically Scott free couple of months in jail no problem...What sort of imbecile in child safety would put a teenage girl in a house with 2 teenage boys anyway unbelievably stupid...Rip sweet girl Tia...⚘
Such a Heart breaking story! 😢 The social services are partly to blame for that. It wasn't a good idea to put a young girl of that age in a home with two teenage boys not knowing anything about them or the family. That was a no no. Poor little girl 😢 So So Sad 😢🤧
Yup! All of’em, including the morons at CPS (with the ironic name “dept of child safety”)! At least that weirdo Joel Micheal was solely responsible, here there are many ppl who got away with no punishment
That’s the most astonishing thing about the whole case. The whole family of psychopaths just agreed that murdering a child who was already horrifically abused was the strategy. I hate them for their cruelty, I hate them for their indifference, and I hate them for their weakness.
@@bedwards6867 they said her body was too decomposed a week after the murder in australian heat, too decomposed to determine cause of death. that also meant: they wouldn't have been able to tell if she was pregnant, asuming the sex was only a couple weeks before the murder.
@@carlcushmanhybels8159 I was under the assumption the abuse had been going on awhile, considering the fathers history with young children, but perhaps that is the reason, I just assumed it would be easy to tell if there was something there or not, maybe some animals got to it also.
I remember this happening, I live just around the corner from Marsden High school where Tia went to school. The place they found her body me and my family were fishing/visiting just weeks before. This death put a hold on the whole of Logan, we were all searching and when everyone found out she'd died the whole of Marsden High held a day in her honour. Such a sad way for a beautiful young girl to go. This left a mark on our whole city and we'll all always remember this girl.
So frustrating that Rick's comment said "if any of her friends are hiding her again..." and seemingly no one thought it was weird that other children feeling the need to repeatedly hide this girl was just commonplace. This seems like a family who had everything, and still they took from that vulnerable little girl anyway. Absolute monsters.
Her mom failed her, her biological dad failed her, the system failed her, these foster monsters failed and destroyed her by taking advantage of her vulnerable state. She had nobody to turn to and these monsters knew it. Just because it’s possible to take advantage of someone in a vulnerable situation, doesn’t mean you should. These foster monsters should’ve all been given life in prison or the death penalty. I cringed when I heard the sentencing for the mother and sons. Poor Tia never had a chance!!!😔😔😔
Horrible what happened to this poor girl. I can't imagine how those evil foster parents managed to keep up the appearance of grieving relatives during her funeral. Sick!!
That one boy making the claim in his message that she threatened to kill his dog if he didnt sleep with her is disgusting. Lying about the situation and shaming her in death to make himself appear more innocent. Real p.o.s.
How do we know he lied? I could be wrong but I believe he sent those messages before she died, so that's not "shaming her in death", either. Obviously she didn't deserve death, but that doesn't make him a liar.
Both Tia and her mother were strikingly beautiful (obviously that doesn’t matter - the story is just entirely heartbreaking) - what that disgusting monster did to Tia makes me so furious. She was thrown to the wolves, and that sociopath acted like he was heartbroken. That girl deserved a chance in life and that “good boy” stole her life.
This story is so heart-rending because Tia basically fled a crappy birth family only to end up in the clutches of the foster perverts. Everyone in the foster family failed to help this poor girl. The really despicable part is that they could've stopped it when the family had their first "discussion" about what to do about it. ANYONE of them could've been brave enough to stand up to the Dad and not go along with the ruse but none of them did sadly enough. I remember a famous quote that says:" All evil needs to succeed is for good people to do nothing".
I’m not sure if this video mentions this bc I haven’t watched yet but tias Mum put her into foster care because she was in a very bad domestic violence situation, she made the right choice
@@maddygreenb What a stupid thing to say. Obviously it wasn't the right choice to give her away or she would still be alive. The right choice for her mother would have been for her to get her sh*t together so she could raise Tia herself.
@@fruff30 Speaking as someone who was adopted, I vehemently disagree with you. We don't know if she would still be alive if she was still with her birth mother. While I agree that it's best for birth families to stay together when it is possible to do so, it seems to me that the most loving choice her birth mother felt she could make was to give her up. This is not a decision any parent makes lightly, especially when Tia was 7 years old when that decision was made. That tells me that she already tried to get her sh*t together as you so eloquently put it, but she was unable to. So she lovingly made the choice for her daughter to have what she thought would be a better and safer life. It is *not* her birth mother's fault that didn't happen. Let's hold the right people accountable here.
So a child predator father raised a child predator son and the mother enabled them both. The foster mom probably adopted Tialeigh for the sole purpose of exploiting her. The foster mom wasn’t just complicit she was a willing and ready accomplice.
That makes two of us. These children already have to deal with why their parents gave them up the least foster homes can do is show them someone cares for them
@@glamglam8347 Me too. Been thinking about it on and off for a few years. For most foster caring is just job and you're not supposed to get attached. I believe this is wrong. As you said hey need to see that there is someone who does want them and will care for them. X
@@markwaldonjohnson A family {UK} down the road used to foster ''Hard to place'' older children, and said girls were much harder work than boys, mainly because of the seedy men they attract {Teenaged girls}..I had no idea that this would be an issue, but it appeared to be a significant problem, that of keeping the girls ''Safe''. In the end they only had boys, as far 'Easier'. One boy {Of a different racial profile to them} was with them so many years and fitted in so well he asked if he could be formally adopted by them. Amazingly it was allowed and he is now their legal son. They have had lots of broken windows in their house..Fostering is not easy as the children have been so traumatised..but fostering teens is probably as ''Hard'' as it gets. What happened to Tia is absolutely appalling, reminiscent of a ghastly case here of Becky Watts.
@@Oakleaf700 Yes. My Sister in law said girls are actually harder to foster too. Her siblings grew up in the system and I can see the effect it has had on them. The homes they were in weren't necessarily abusive but they were seen more as a job. But for some I guess the fact they have been abandoned is just too much and they develop a coping strategy which then stops them from being able to love or receive love. So sad.
This is actually in the coroners court at the moment, at no stage has the father ever denied sexually assaulting the poor kid, sounds like the entire family are predators.
It feels like the whole family was in on it but when they got caught, they had another "family meeting" and decided to pin the blame on the father so the others would get out in a couple of years. Why have the entire family doing life when just one is enough to take the fall?
@@phebes 😒 OMGOSH, SO SICK! THAT MOTHER & OLDEST SON DEFINITELY NEED TO BE IN PRISON! OLDEST SON NOT LOCKED UP LONG ENOUGH FOR RAPING YOUNG TAIHLEIGH. THAT "MOM" IS AS SICK AS THEM! EVIL, ALL OF THEM 😠😠 💜 I'M SO SORRY TAIHLEIGH, MAY GOD HOLD YOU IN HIS LOVING ARM'S. YOU WILL NEVER BE HURT AGAIN ANGEL 🕊️👼🙏💜💜💜
I feel so so so terrible for this little girl. She unfortunately never got to know how good life really could be. She was failed by EVERYONE around her.
The message Trent sent a cousin about Tia saying "I just want the kid gone and out of my life, but I now she's also a sauce [sic] of income for mum and dad" says a lot about what's wrong about the foster system. Many adults choose to foster solely because of the money it generates and not because they care about children and the rates of abuse among foster children is extremely high.
I like how you said "Many adults choose to foster solely because of the money it generates and not because they care about children". I have a co-worker who is currently a foster mom. She frequently tells me how "horrible" it is to be a foster mom and would never have done it if it wasn't for the money. And, the kicker? She works for CPS!!!! Yes, she is a social worker in the system who says crap like this openly! You can easily tell she cares more about her own blood child than the foster kid, too.
@@pksy1967 As a psychologist, I've met many survivors of abuse who didn't just experience abuse in their biological families but who endured serious abuse during years with various foster parents. In many such cases, one or both foster parents only choose to foster because they regard it as an extra source of income and not because they genuinely care for the children being fostered. So, unfortunately cases like this one that happened in Australia where I live are more the norm than the exception in regards to the motivations for fostering and abuse experienced in such environments. There's also many cases like the one you mention whereby adults in the field of youth or social work who have often become 'hard-boiled' and embittered - whether due to that type of work or traits they had before entering the field - deliberately and rather cold-bloodedly decide to become foster parents for financial reasons. Many years ago now I heard of a woman who worked in CPS who had moved into our neighbourhood who decided to foster largely for financial reasons - she was a single parent with two biological children - and who was quite lacking in empathy, spoke openly to neighbours about how frustrated she was with a young boy in her "care" but she would always say the money she received was "worth the trouble" and she, too, clearly favoured her two biological children over this foster child. She moved away not long after starting to foster and I hadn't kept in contact; she wasn't someone I had anything in common with and I am fairly certain she knew I had heard of her views about fostering from other neighbours and didn't appreciate them. There are some ethical caring adults who choose to foster because they genuinely desire to help children. Unfortunately, the foster care system is riddled with inadequate measures to safeguard the wellbeing of children and the potential foster parents are often not given what I think should be mandatory thorough psychological assessments. There's often very rigorous requirements for potential adoptees and it seems the foster system has quite low requirements especially by comparison which paves the way for people who are motivated by money and with psychological issues to quite easily be allowed to foster. The damage done to those who survive the abuse in foster 'care' is incalculable.
I used to work with foster children, helping socialize them, basically taking them to the mall and meet new friends their age. The reasons these kids were in the foster system in the first place, was absolutely horrible. I knew CPS that ended up quitting due to a case being too horrid for them to live with. They helped charge the father, then placed the child, quit shortly after. Just the worst shit happens to the most vulnerable of our society, then they go on to a foster home, who is supposed to give them another shot at a normal life, sometimes are abused further. Incredibly sad, and really reveals the cracks in our system.
Sorry but I think dad Rick may well have been abusing Tia himself giving his own history - also, his own younger son said his father would murder him if he tried to protect Tia! Josh knew his father was a psychopath.
It's called small government , cutting back on staff till the social workers are over loaded with work and can't do their job properly . We have money for war but no money for protecting children , mental health or homelessness .
the wife and the two sons should've gotten way harsher sentences, seeing as how they went along with the whole thing from the beginning. when they had their 'family meeting' it had to have been obvious what was going to happen. nobody is that naive
@@neobogard He should have got a life sentence. 4 years is pathetic for such serious child sexual abuse. Neither him nor his father should ever have the privilege or freedom to rejoin society.
I really feel for the bio mother in this case. Was she a good mum? No, clearly not. But she knew that, she loved her daughter and knew that she wasn't able to give Tiah the life she deserved. She trusted the care system to keep her safe and find her a loving home. But instead Tiah was handed over to monsters. I admire the mothers admittance that she was incapable of looking after her child, as so many children have to suffer under the care of unfit parents. But the care system is broken. There are too many examples of tragic cases. Tiah, bless her. She deserved so much better from life.
I’m sick and tired of women like you. Her mom literally chose Dick over her own daughter. You feel sorry for her? Great. Just continue To give “mothers” like this a free ride and slap on the wrist so that the system can keep cleaning up their messes and more kids can be murdered because god forbid these worthless whores use sex toys instead of needing Dick over their own kids. Right. It’s the “system” that failed Tia.
@@Ariadne76-k3d are you serious? She failed her by trying to give her a better life? Cindy did not and could not have known she would be MURDERED. You are disgusting. Grow up.
The mom caused this situation. She should get life in prison because she is the one that put little Tiah in this situation. Disgusting how anyone can feel sorry for th person who caused their child to be raped and murdered.
My heart aches. That poor girl, tossed around in the world like a rag doll until finally that POS tossed her out like trash because she was inconvenient.
I went to school with tia and we were in the same grade, i remember just 1 week before he disappearance she gave me jelly beans at school and when she was missing the whole school was in shock and tears. R.I.P Tia
I still remember the beautiful little Tia's picture on the news when she was missing, and hoping that nothing had happened to her. The reality was worse than I ever imagined. Thanks for sharing your memory of Tia mate, as it's our remembering that keeps people alive in our hearts.
Just when I think I have something to complain about, I hear a tragic story like Tia's. Her mother Cindy's fatalism led her into drugs and homelessness. Sad. I don't know her story. She tried to do right by Tia given her downward spiral. Thought she was protecting Tia from herself. Didn't realize those who were to protect Tia were harmful and deadly. RIP Tia. Blessings.
She was taken from the danger of an abusive man just to be put into the danger of other abusive men AND a mother who didn't care about her. God I am so sick.
Yes, for all the ‘concern’ that mother showed when Tialeigh went missing I call fake. Dumped the kid instead of making a new life with her, nah, drugs much more important. Didn’t listen to her daughter about the sexual abuse, hope she rots in hell. Poor kid.
@@jillgarlick2122 You are confusing the bio mom and foster mom. Bio mom gave her over to ensure her safety. She had no idea about the abuse. Foster mom knew about the abuse and probably even the murder plan.
The whole family was cold and calculating, no tears for Tailiegh they even carried her coffin at the funeral Allow them should have been jailed for so much longer. Poor kid paid the ultimate price for a teen boy who couldn't keep his hands to himself.
I have a feeling that the father agreed to take in Tiahleigh because he had plans to abuse her himself. He was, after all, found to have previously abused other children in the past.
@Sinan Alas WeLl, I’d only clarify that she was never his kid, period. It wasn’t only in his mind. Fostering a child is not the same thing as them being their kid. They are just a guardian.
@@davedibin2981 "life without the possibility of parole (but only for 20 years)" That's aome bullshit along with the far too short sentences of the rapist older brother and evil mother. Indeed it is a twisted worldview that leads to laws like this.
Not surprising since between 1788 and 1868, about 162,000 convicts were transported from Britain and Ireland to various penal colonies in Australia and almost 20% of modern Australians, in addition to 2 million Britons, are descended from transported convicts.
Oh and that many convicts were also sent to the US from Britain as well. If you look up the history, you will see that around 52,000 were sent to America and they settled mostly in the US. You have a look at our crime rate and the deaths related to crime, you will see our stats is so much lower. We don't have drive by shootings or shootings in nearly every area, ha we don't have a high stabbing rate either. Its also rare for us to get any mass shootings. Our last mass shooting occurred back in 1996. We have had a few horrible incidents since then but nothing on a massive acale such as what they get in the US. Our kids are safe in school cause their is limited risk of a kid coming in and shooting each other
I used to live in Logan, this case is devastating and made me realise how fucked our docs system is, as someone who grew up in foster care it really broke me hearing about this case. You’re the first channel I’ve seen cover this case, so thank you
It seems like all these foster kids who end up in shitty foster homes, just get the short end of the stick. Isn't child services supposed to check in with the child/family every so often? Maybe this could have been avoided if someone actually listened to her. Just because she was a child, doesn't mean she didn't know what she was talking about. She just needed someone to listen and love her as a human and not as a paycheck. R.I.P. Tia
Child services is a joke. I grew up in "state custody" and was in a terrible foster home, I would tell case workers weekly about the abuse done to myself, my sisters and all the other kids who came into that home. After 3 years they allowed the people to adopt us. It wasn't until 8 years after going through tremendous abuse did they finally do something. The foster families lie and say the children are making up the abuse or neglect because they want to go home to their families or so forth. Mine would say I was leaving bruises and wounds on myself to try to get taken off of them intentionally, my 2 older sisters were too afraid to speak up after the first year since they knew it was pointless. I was finally 16 when I watched my adopted mother be arrested and charged with child abuse. At age 20 I got into legal trouble for driving on suspended... my probation officer was my old case worker who ignored my pleas for help. She was in tears apologizing for what happened years prior and for not believing me, because she was related to the foster family and "thought she knew them". Turns out she left the line of work after feeling like she failed me and many other kids. I just wish more would open their eyes and truly investigate when children cry out for help. So many children have ended up dead because CPS failed to do their jobs.this is just 1 story. Imagine how many innocent children are out there right now dealing with pure hell due to CPS not doing their jobs!
Even if checked on, these children often clam up. Whether it is out of fear, or whatever the circumstances, they won't talk about the abuse. They pretend like everything is fine until they implode. How can you trust an official from the agency that places you in a shifty situation to begin with? Why risk making things worse? What if the foster family finds out the child spoke up, and the abuse worsens? What if they get sent to an _even worse_ foster home? Who _can_ you trust? You couldn't imagine what's going through a child's head after they've been through so much. Some of these situations would be difficult for an _adult_ to process...
@@Ams_5590 Thank you for sharing your experience. I’m truly sorry you had to endure what must have been absolute hell for you. As a survivor of a different type of childhood abuse, I totally understand the ongoing and lifelong trauma it causes. It takes a lot of inner strength to overcome childhood trauma. My heart goes out to you and I hope dearly you come to some level of healing after all you must’ve been through. I hope life is better for you now. Hugs ❤️
“Life without the possibility of parole for twenty years”. That makes no damn sense! The son and mother’s sentences are way too short! Sickening! That poor girl. She endured so much. Truly horrible.
@@AlexV6 the justice system here is incredibly weak compared to other countries. I know someone who murdered his girlfriend he was given 7 yrs altogether...
There's a man who only got 56 years for raping and murdering his own daughter in Washington. The wide inconsistencies in every judicial system is sickening.
In what world was it okay to send a 12 year old girl to a home with 2 teenage boys?? As soon as I saw the family pic, it was INSTANT RED FLAG. Should have never happened, it's sickening and entirely preventable.
Not one of these people (use the term loosely) ever made mention of Tia, or exhibited any type of emotion regarding her death. It's like Tia never existed, how very sad and disturbing! This girl never had a chance in this life... Thanks Mike, again you're the best there is on youtube!!!
@Jim Marbaz It's FAR better than the alternative....hence why it is easy. ADULTS realized this LONG AGO. Would you rather have had her druggie mom pimping her 11-12 yr old daughter out??? No?? Then stfu about how easy it is. There is DAMN GOOD reason it's set up the way it is. To prevent harm, and in most cases, it does.
@Jim Marbaz Everyone needs to stop hassling Tia's mother. She knew that she wasn't capable of taking care of her (most addicts drag their children along with them to places they shouldn't even know exist). She wanted Tia to have a stable life. There is no way she could have known Tia would be sent to a foster home she would be raped and killed.
I've said it before and I'll say it again "eyewitnesses" cannot be trusted at all. No one should ever go to jail based only on an eyewitness as people make stuff or create false memories all the time. We think our memories are like recording devices but in reality, every time we think about an event we remember it differently, as we remember remembering it and not the original memory. They send people to jail after picking someone out from photographs based on a stranger they saw for moments during a high-stress crime. Now, these kids at school knew this girl and say they saw her when she was not there. They were convinced they saw her that day. That is how unreliable our memories are as they could just as easily remember seeing someone they know at a crime scene when they were not there. So imagine how much worse it gets when they are trying to remember someone they don't know.
You are so right. Compare with science where eyewitness is the lowest form of evidence. I have extremly good memory (99,75 %-ile) when I actively memorise. Still, when it comes to typical non spectacular eyewitness situations, I remember them as bad as everybody else.
I know the woman who was Tialeigh's foster carer before the Thorburns.. She is still traumatised by what happened, and feels terrible guilt for not being able to maintain the placement. Trent & his family took advantage of a girl who just wanted to be loved. They deserved far worse punishment.
It always pisses me off when i see 100’s of people at a funeral for someone that nobody cared about when they were alive, if even a fraction of those people cared about her before she died she probably wouldn’t have.
Not necessarily. You can feel genuine sadness for cases like that. Last summer we got an Amber Alert that gone wrong here in Quebec, I was just crying reading the news. ( That said I don't know why people actually shows up at funerals for people they don't know.... To show their support I guess )
That little girl was an independent person with feelings and an entire life ahead of her, she didn’t have the best start in life and because of that they treated her like some sort of doll they could abuse and kill when it went wrong. Absolutely heartbreaking. Rip sweetheart xx
Wow! Trent messaging a friend that Tiahleigh forced him to have sex with her otherwise she'd "kill his dog Lewis" is the absolute cherry ontop of disgusting. Even the most gullible person in the world wouldn't believe that 🤦🤢🤮
Sadly, it is plausible. I had a friend who had been abused, and her way of acting out was to get sex. I was asked to talk to her about her putting the moves on. Maybe it was a way of taking control.
The sentences seem so minor in this case. I truly hope the daycare children received the help they needed to have the best chance of a healthy life after the tragedy's the had suffered in that home. As for the boys, growing up in that sort of environment obviously affected their decisions. With that said, they all had a choice and they choose poorly. Life is hard and I don’t pretend to understand the dynamics of this situation. But, I do think listening to stories that Mike puts out will help some who may be currently naïve to trouble and have others rethink their behaviors. Thank you Mike for your narratives.
@Guerrilla Warfare COD I do realize arguing with you is going to be pointless but how is this girl's bio mother to blame whatsoever? I get that you think defending her is "tribalism" feminist bs but she did nothing wrong?
@@englishrupe01 I know, always seems to be the case. I wish people had the courage to speak up when it's so desperately needed instead of how they thought something was off, but didn't want to interfere etc.....
I've seen great foster parents and even some men who aren't related to kids (dated their mother when the kids were young) step up and help support and mentor boys. Sadly, they seem like the minority when the news is overwhelmed with stories like this.
Me too, it was terrible! As a mother myself now I devote my life to them so they'll never have to go through what I did and what millions of other innocent children go through everyday as the system FAILS most children!
The system failed this poor child. They were notified about the abuse and didn't immediately act. Scary to think how many more out there that have gone under the radar thanks to such incompetence!
Yeah kinda like what happen to Gabriel Fernandez, it’s just absolutely sick sick sick sick fk up mentally deranged coward individuals. I couldn’t finish his documentary bc it pissed me off so much. It is just absolutely despicable absolutely senseless, and deranged
The son who Sexually abused her, Trent, has just been charged with burglary. Stealing from a camping store. Absolutely tragic story, poor girl. She was Failed in so many ways by so many people. 😥😞
Totally agree. Poor little Tialeigh must of hated living with them. I can't imagine much love or genuine care was shown from either parent, and the teenage son's would of resented her! She must of felt sooo uncomfortable living with them!😥 Tragic. R.I.P Tialeigh 🌷💜
I hope it was because they are living in the streets. No one should ever talk to those boys again or hire that disgusting pig of a mother. They should have all been executed. Aiding in the murder of a child that was dumped in a swamp! I have no faith in the justice system whatsoever anymore. They spend more time focused on how to make money than they do protecting women and children. Disturbing beyond belief
They do it deliberately and often steal kids from loving parents because the parents broke some shitty rules of theirs..then the kids end up with money grubbing scum
@@sheffieldamanda AGREED! However, “most” people don’t become social workers for the pay. Well my colleagues weren’t lol doesn’t negate the fact that most are underpaid (teachers and Leo’s included) 😒
@@prodbaxi They do. They are just underfunded and understaffed and can't PHYSICALLY cover cases. Why don't you vote for politicians who will fund them, instead of the military for example, instead of complaining on youtube? It's the same for 911 - outdated tech, budget that hasn't increased in 30 YEARS, understaffed...
What kills me is that she probably kept running away because of the abuse... For all we know the father probably did something as well! The system failed that poor girl and justice still hasn't properly been served
@@johnandevefoster3816 They certainly do. What they can't do however is being wizards. They PHYSICALLY can't get through all the cases being thrown their way. They are overworked, under-payed and understaffed. Years of money being taken away from those programs will do that. Are you angry? Good. Cause you and me are more responsible than they. We keep voting for rich cocksuckers that don't give a shit about people and social programs. We created those conditions... Cause let me assure you - you don't go into a job that is underpayed and you will be forced to do 70+ hours a week in HORRENDOUS conditions, unless you love your job and want to help people...
I feel bad for her mother having to live with the fact that she thought she was giving her daughter a better chance at life by putting her in foster care and having to live with that lose
@@susanelaine1644 I have mixed feelings about the mom., I actually think I just don’t have enough information to really have an opinion … on one hand, she sent her daughter away at first bc of the abusive relationship, but then instead of working on making things better for herself so she could get her daughter back (safely), she turned to drugs … but at the same time, people DO have things happen to them that destroy their lives, and having kids doesn’t make anyone immune from that … I guess I’d really want to know more about her situation. Did she choose the abusive man over her daughter? Some people have options, but choose to stay with their abuser out of “love” 🙄 or was she in a lose/ lose situation? Was the drug use a result of wanting to party, or was she given a prescription for something and was addicted before she realized it? There are so many variables where the mom is concerned that I can’t truly sympathise with her, or blame her. Either way, I do feel badly for her in that her life was obviously a mess, and now she has to live with this, regardless of if she could have done something to stop it or not.
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It is beyond disgusting to me that during the interviews they all say that 'Tia had sex with Trent', instead of 'Trent raped Tia' like it's all her fault that this happened. She didn't deserve any of this
That’s exactly what I was thinking! And then when he said he “couldn’t look at either of them” , I was like huuuuuh?? There’s such a disconnect it’s disgusting.
We don't have statutory rape laws as strong as America. He was charged with incest and not sexual assault of a minor.
@@annaohare8263 You have rape laws though and this was rape for sure. I guess they couldn't prove it though, this whole story is sickening, I've heard of it before I think I blocked a lot of it out of my head. I hate hearing about things like this done to helpless kids.
@@Nikki_the_G Yeah I'm guessing that they couldn't prove it or the proof wasn't strong enough because we actually are pretty strict regarding statutory rape laws in Australia, so they had to settle charging him with incest instead. It makes me sick that he is out free walking the streets now
I noticed that too. It’s deeply upsetting to see how they’ve justified his actions in their minds.
Further to this tragic story, the father was recently convicted of the sexual abuse of a number of children in the care of his wife’s home daycare centre. In my opinion the wife has a lot to answer for. These stories absolutely break my heart 💔💔💔
At best she turned a bind eye, at worst she was supplying him the kids, either way makes her very complicit
Just appalling and boy was her mum on the money about not living with 2 teenage lads!
I wouldn’t be surprised if he sexually abused his own children as well. Sick, evil man.
Yes he mentions that briefly in this video.
@@lilyt18 Or the victim, Tia. If Trent, a grown adult man, had “sex” (it’s rape, even if Tia agreed to it) with Tia I’m sure Rick could’ve done stuff too. The entire family is disgusting. They all murdered her by failing to do the right thing and Trent being charged for what he did. Instead Rick decides to “take care of it” and killed an innocent child that they were supposed to protect.
How can this woman talk about the rape and murder of a child like she's talking about shopping. Evil.
Or like he just made a mistake, and what do you do with mistakes? Erase them! Shocking in its selfishness.
Maybe it was because she treated it like shopping when picking a foster kid. They were shopping for a victim. Sick
@Salty Syren A lot of them aren't even damaged. They are simply just incapable of feeling any emotion except 2. Happiness they are getting what they want or anger that they aren't.
That foster 'mother' got off lightly. She knew but did not protect the child from evil. What a horrible family.
True dat!!! Gets me sooo mad 😡🤬🤬 poor lil girl... She have done nothing wrong.. She was taken in a very cruel way... 😪
Fostered at age 7, murdered at 12.
Human kind failed deeply with Tia.
So sad! My heart cried out loud for her. What has she done to deserve a life like this? This family is so evil.
Absolutely 💯 💯 💯 💯 yeah
You forgot:
Raped at 12
We certainly did...so deeply saddened by Tia's story, god love her..An evil family should have all been lifed off..
As with many others
I hate stories about kids where every adult failed them miserably and in turn , never really stood a chance at a decent life. Everybody deserves a damn chance!
😞..💖
Poor babies never get a chance...they really do deserve a chance..
@Andy White the "system" freaking sucks
Well said😪
@@starlightsparkles4697 yeah that’s why it’s important to vote!! It’s the judges who fail these children and not the child protective workers, Those workers are way underpaid and overworked trust me I know first hand. Sad the rich conservative higher ups makes all the decisions. They rather spend millions on housing children in Random hotels with other bad kids having sex and all kinds of nonsense while the workers are getting punched and kicked and spit on by these kids and made into glorified baby sitters just because the state refuses to find them proper placement/homes. It’s very sad. Please vote for better judges and state representatives.
The fact that he's carrying her coffin, is brewing a different kind of anger ...
RIPP Babygirl 🤍🕊
This is too sad. Everyone failed that kid.
THE mother especially
@@piva1358 not her biological mother? The foster mother, yes
@@binnes117 her biological mom chose to do drugs, party and dump her responsibilities for the child she chose to bring into the world of on the system. She ABSOLUTELY failed her daughter. Are you kidding me???
Literally everyone. Sooo sad.
@@binnes117 the biological mom should have been responsible enough to take child out of the family after hearing about the abuse.
Knew the mother was in on it as soon as she told the police she said "How could you let that happen?" to Trent, instead of "How could you do that?" Passive language instead of acknowledging his fault.
How can the she blame others, she should have kept that child with her no matter how much she have to struggle.. (that's just me)
I think what frustrates me most about this story is every single one of them saying "he had sex with". No. That was not sex. He raped that poor girl. So infuriating
Yeah, grinds my gears. And also this "SHE had sex with him" as if it was her initiative, as if she wanted the rape. All BS. :(
EXACTLY. I’m so glad Mike makes a point in these stories to stress when they call it “sex” it’s actually rape.
Agreed! There is justice for them in the next life. They will not escape
@@elainep8873 you are delicious
Seriously had me screaming....it's not sex, not incest, it's RAPE!!!
The fact they said she ran away often is a huge red flag. Disgusting this poor child was put with these monsters
Your right the dad was a terrible person. Prob beat his wife and maybe her. No one defending him. My dad used to beat me with a belt till I was bleeding and broke my nose a few times. But as a 8 year old child I couldn't stop him if he hit my mother. He never did just making a point a child is scared of his father.
Not necessarily. It’s not unusual for foster children to run away but it really depends on diagnosis, history etc. it’s not just a sign of abuse.
@@roninkraut6873 My Mother was raised in foster homes along with her 6 siblings I know it can be bad
Might sound wrong but I would want too foster A girl cause listening to what my mom and her sisters went through. Just rather a girl shouldn't have to go through that.
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For sure. Foster care can really be misunderstood. I don’t know which is worse, being abused/neglected by your bio parents or by foster parents? Both are awful and I wish it never happened
The fact they tried to paint her as a troubled child, bc she would run away but she was trying to escape. My heart was heavy watching this bc she didn't deserve this.
If only she could've got to someone to tell them what was going on and them actually do something about it. It's so heartbreaking that her mother gave her up to give her a better life and these pieces of ish did this do her. I hope the father and son gets battered daily.
Yes, this one made me really sad. This poor, beautiful little girl was just handed off to those monsters. How sick and warped is that entire family?!
That is the worst life a person could be dealt in my opinion. Born to parents that don't want you then given to people like this while going through your most important development years as a person. I don't see how anybody could be normal growing up this way that beyond sad and shows how unfair life can be.
yah their version of child protective services is as inept as the United States'....
@@robbybee70 it's honestly a desperate situation especially now in the US with the opioid epidemic. There are so many children going into the system and not enough families to take them. The ones that would be good parents usually don't apply to become foster parents for whatever reasons and unfortunately many that do don't for the best reasons of the children. It's a sad situation most people aren't even aware of they need to make adoption easier for American parents. But because of the difficulties many go overseas to adopt. I have a family member that works as a social worker she has a big heart and that job crushed her so to speak.
What a nightmare. A vulnerable mum trying to do the right thing, and a middle class family of monsters in essence grinds up and devours her child like the junk food they peddled. I am horrified and so sorry for this poor young girl.
All because of money
She did nothing when she was told by her daughter she was being sexually abused.
worst
family
ever
_Trent got beat up in prison_
*Everyone liked that.*
But...but... =(
Not enough...
not the dead girl
Recently a facebook post has gone around telling girls to be aware of his Tinder account, but disgustingly a lot of women don’t care about what he did.
I'm sorry but I would beat the hell out of him too, being 18 looking like Justin Bieber tried out for bts and failed. 😂
The person at child protection services who ignored the reported abuse had a duty of care to get Tia out of that situation. They should have stood trial also.
Precisely !! But why is it that every time something like this happens, and Dear God it happens far too often, the people responsible for looking out for these children never seem to be punished ?
Yes absolutely all on trial 😢😢😫😇🌺☮️rip 😇 kind angel
It The judges that have the final word not the workers. Some y’all need to do more research before you make yourself sound stupid on social media. All those workers are way overworked and underpaid. Trust me I know first hand. Meanwhile the states conservatives are at home in the air conditioned making 100,000 a year and the workers who are getting kicked, pinched and spit on by these kids are not even making half that and have to work their asses off for a small salary and put in 60 hours a week to be glorified babysitter because the state don’t want to find proper placement/homes for them. Some y’all have no clue what really goes on.
@@Jordanfiend361 what are you talking about...foster carers are paid over 450 a week for each child and for kids with special needs much more...social services deliberately ignore abuse in foster placements as they don’t want to admit they take kids from loving homes and put them with abusers. The system is broken and diseased from the core.
@@Jordanfiend361 Overworked and underpaid ? So is everyone !!
If you're paid to protect a child, PROTECT THEM !! Don't blame it on the judges, in MY personal experience they almost never go against the recommendations of the case worker. Maybe you should do more research before you spout off about others looking stupid.
The irony over 600 people at her funeral...but no one to turned to when she needed it help ...society failed her , heartbreaking
Exactly. The definition of "care" in many families seems to be having their kids name or face printed on stupid T-shirts at their funeral, rather than putting the child's needs FIRST, from birth - and raising them properly. It's too late to show "love" once the child is gone.
well first of all, her Mom failed her. Don't have kids if you're not capable of taking care of them
@@michaela9967 sometimes people don't know this till it's too late :(
@@michaela9967 you can say that but sometimes you think you can. You think you have the right capabilities and support systems and then realize after the baby is born you can't, and that parenthood is way harder than anyone tells you it is.
Mum thought she was doing the right thing giving her up because she couldn't take care of her. Unfortunately the people who were supposed to take care that baby were demons in the flesh.
Foster "care" can be a child's worst nightmare.
This was heart wrenching. What a horrible, tragic life this little angel lived.
One of the more horrifying stories I’ve seen on here. These people literally discussed how they were going to get rid of her, like she was dirty laundry or a bag of trash. Simply horrific
and that poor girl was treated that way her entire, short life. I wonder if she ever had a happy day not having to worry about something
I'm sure if on those rare days she was happy the thought of no1 truly caring was always lingering. That was my case anyways. I was never truly happy I just pretended to be. It's a survival mechanism.
@@DavidSmith-fg5su I'm really sorry you feel like this..So many people suffered as children. It isn't fair or right.
It was a very huge story here in Australia and very sad. I'm surprised they were even allowed to foster care because we have very strict rules and regulations and red tape that it makes it very hard. I spoke to one of the foster care organisations managers and she said I wouldn't be approved because I had some clutter neatly arranged but no space for it to go in a cupboard. My home isn't dirty and it is kept neat and tidy but just that pile would be enough to not be approved, oh and also 1 small window in my house had a white sheet as a curtain at the time because I hadn't found the specific size curtain needed for that window. I would have to fix that LOL
Nope
That poor girl betrayed by absolutely everyone. Even by life itself.
He had to do it...to protect his family's reputation!
@@Scorch428 Troll
@@StamfordBridge Woulsn't say a troll probably sarcasm
I don't know why, but stories about young girls like this absolutely destroy me. This poor girl...
@@generalgrievous262 Hope so. Still doesn’t quite work as a response here.
The killer acting as pallbearer at his victim's funeral, wearing a purple shirt to blend in with those grieving for the child he murdered. I'd give him twenty years for that alone.
Exactly thier home is full of narcissistic people all should fry
This happened to my friends Dad. His friends shot and killed him over a bottle of pills, was a pallbearer and only got 5 years! Disgraceful!
The worst kind of person is someone who will kill another then go to their funeral and cry like there is a special place in hell for you if you do that
that was the scariest part of this case.
I like your cat picture
@13:30 That unnatural mother, telling about when her son confessed a “sexual encounter “ with Tiah. “Oh mate how could you *let* something *like that* happen?”
I’m an Aussie, live quite close to all the named sites, but I’ve never heard that particular little gem before.
I don’t think there’s many people who hear of sending a twelve year old girl into a foster situation with two teenage males and don’t think it’s a bad idea. If it’s been a long term foster and they’ve grown up as brother and sister, that’s one thing. But at the ages of all the children, when the foster care started it shouldn’t have happened.
My dad would LITERALLY, in the most legit sense of the word, kill me if I did anything CLOSE to this and then go to jail for it. This is disgusting. That's not saving your child, it's enabling it. Legit disgusting.
This is such a sad story. That poor little girl.
Same dude and I live in a 3rd world country where our culture is called "Backward"
This is close to me and exposes the how society is all about apearance's
If you really beleive it had anything to do with 'saving' his son, you really have no insight into the sort of character Rick Thorburn is.
@New Guy. Weren't you listening?
Of course, considering the father also molested a bunch of smaller kids from his wife's in-home daycare... it's not even a matter of protecting his child. It's just a monster finding excuses to destroy anything that threatens him.
The fact that Trent confessed to doing that to the poor girl and yet wasn’t charged nor did he face any extended time in jail shows that this is an international problem of under-punishing such heinous crimes against kids.
Yes! And so many times foster children are treated as disposable.. it’s bullshit.. poor kid didn’t choose her situation.
And that crime lead to her death. it was heinous enough to kill her yet he got away with everything.
He did get charged with perjury, interfering with the course of justice and incest. He got four years, of which he probably served a minute amount. And while his ass did get beaten whilst in jail, I think he should've been charged with her death as well, murder three (it is a charge), and should've served a lot more time (which would've meant a lot more ass whoopings.) RIP Tia, I'm so,so sorry everyone failed you.
Abortion for the win.
The western “justice” system is committed to white privilege and supremacy, and allowing white men to do whatever they want and to whomever with simply a slap on the wrist
I’m kind of saddened by the huge number of people who showed up after she was dead than the people who helped her when she was alive. She obviously was running away for a reason and no one took it seriously. I know foster care case workers are over worked and the system is horrible. The fact that everyone in her life who was supposed to protect her ended up leaving her, failing, and hurting her is just so sad.
good point
I think Rick had abused Tiah as well.
When there's cameras running everyone's surrounding the victim with love...SHAMEFUL shit indeed
Kids run away for little reasons all the time. My own sister ran away because she didn't want to have a curfew when she was 14 or so.
Hindsight is 20/20. I can imagine just how many kids in the foster system just don't want to be in the home they're placed in. Having a family forced upon you who may be nothing like what you are used to, who don't connect with you because you're just different. Not bad or a problem child, just different.
The fact that cps needs to exist is a tragedy in itself, and all the good intentions people have can only go so far.
I'm sure there's a caseworker out there whose shoulders carry a lot of guilt over misreading Tia's plight. But the only people who deserve blame are the ones directly responsible.
@@skachor that foster family cared more about their social standing then that poor little girl! I can't imagine how tortured her birth mother must be!! Giving her up to keep her safe rather than giving up the abusive relationship. My mom did kinda the same but I was 17 and it turned out very successful but her choice hurt as you can imagine.
I lived 15 minutes away from where they lived and it’s always hit so close to home, Tia didn’t deserve any of this and at the beginning of this I was already calling the family POS because well, they are! Trent should’ve gotten more time, and when the report came out that he was beaten up in jail, well that made me smile he deserves it and more. I hope Rick is getting the same treatment. That family can burn in hell.
RIP Tia you beautiful soul, I wish you never had to go through this, you would have still been alive today ❤️❤️
Can’t BELIEVE that vile excuse for a human fucking being carried that precious baby’s casket after robbing her of her life! There’s a special place in Hell for monsters like him. This case is absolutely heartbreaking. Everyone failed her and she never really had a a chance. RIP Tiahleigh🕊
Yeah. 😔
That enraged me!
They say our world is becoming overpopulated. Those committing murder and sex crimes against children should be the first to give up their space and air. I don’t want to share with this bastard.
@@treasurehunter3193 absolutely!!!
@@ArbitraryFilmings agreed..... this one hurt my soul. I feel achey and sad..... 😥
She was failed by everyone who should’ve been protecting her. RIP beautiful girl. So sad.
The worst part (for Cindy) was that she did the right thing. She gave up her daughter that she loves to protect her.
Why would they place a 12 year old girl in a house with teenage boys?
“I told her to stay in her room and put herself to bed”... that poor girl had no one caring for her
Right!??! I'm seriously furious the foster "mom" only got 18 fucking months!!! You get more in the US for selling drugs! She deserves LITERALLY everything bad that happens to her for the rest of her life.
That one really broke my heart. How alone she must have felt. My son is 13, almost 14 and I still at night get his bed ready, often we talk and laugh before he goes to sleep and I always still kiss him on the forehead as I have all his life and I tell him how much I love him, and yeah he is a very typical teenager but I know deep down he appreciates this and wants it also cause also I am his only parent. Every child deserves at least one person in their life that will do anything for them, love them unconditionally no matter what and go to any lengths for them and their safety and welfare and that will always have a time for them also. It is so heartbreaking that Tia didn´t have anybody, she was all alone and placed with 4 monsters and one monster raped her and other monster killed her !!!!
@@IrisFlowerAndRainbow It's so nice to know that some kids have such a loving parent!
@@alexalandy8714 Thank you so much for saying that ❤ Lots of love from Iceland to you ❤🇮🇸
@@IrisFlowerAndRainbow i do this with my boy too, he is 11 now and there is just me and him in our house, i’ll always be him mummy and he will always be my baby! Even when he is much older than bond will never change. All children deserve this. I agree ❤
The Mother committed conspiracy pure and simple. Where’s THAT justice!
She did a year and a half? Do people not understand how these things work??
@@fuckTH-camBringBackDislikes we heard that. Year and a half isn’t enough
She probably saved herself from that by not being present in the house when the murder took place. If she'd been there I think she would have picked up a conspiracy charge, if not be a codefendant to the murder charge. Australian law is relatively similar to US in regard to those offences, even if the court proceedings have some differences.
It's a shame how many people failed this poor girl. She deserved so much better.. 😞
@Arna Cook So you actually lived near her at the time?
Starting with her mother..
This is just the world we live in. This happens all over the world, there is always someone who is falling through the cracks of society.
@@IChIDH her mother gave her up because she knew she couldn’t keep her safe. Her mother did the absolute right thing
@@TheJillers her mothers actions directly lead to her death, how could it have been the absolute right thing? Unbelievable.
The photo of Tiahleigh with her mom, where she's smiling up at her with such love, breaks my heart. Rest in peace now, Tia 😢
She obviously adored her mum. Must have been devastating to be given up for adoption
“We have to protect Trent.” Most disgusting sentence of this video
Yep, that family's priority was to protect the 19 year old rapist, not his 12 year old victim. They all belong in jail for life! It's utterly sickening that vulnerable child was delivered on a plate to her rapists and murderer.
I know. Trent was doing an excellent job of protecting his whining, lying, self serving self.
But I think the dad wanted to also protect himself because if the authorities came to investigate the rape of Tia, they'd also find out about the dad abusing the dayhome kids so it was also out of self preservation too. Pieces of shit, the lot of them.
@@kikidee6033 He was probably worried he was the dad too. Sick family put em all down oxygen thieves. World would not mourn the loss of any 1 of them
I know Tialeighs Paternal Father Andy well, there is more to this case anyway one disgusting point about self preservation with that Trent was he accused Tialeigh of threatening to kill his dog if he did not sleep with her, the lying rat, it just goes to show how narcissistic these people really are he got off basically Scott free couple of months in jail no problem...What sort of imbecile in child safety would put a teenage girl in a house with 2 teenage boys anyway unbelievably stupid...Rip sweet girl Tia...⚘
Such a Heart breaking story! 😢 The social services are partly to blame for that. It wasn't a good idea to put a young girl of that age in a home with two teenage boys not knowing anything about them or the family. That was a no no. Poor little girl 😢 So So Sad 😢🤧
This story is worse than the dude that put his mom’s head in a pot. And that was crazy as hell. Everybody needs to go to jail imo. Camera man too
Yup! All of’em, including the morons at CPS (with the ironic name “dept of child safety”)! At least that weirdo Joel Micheal was solely responsible, here there are many ppl who got away with no punishment
Agreed!
Their mail man and milk man as well
Right! I didn’t think we could get worse than that one, yet here we are with this story.
Yeah that guy lived in my town not far from my parents house actually. Very strange and horrific case.
“Family meeting: we’re going to kill the foster child.” They’re all responsible.
Im absolutely not defending anybody. But he murdered her before they had the meeting.
Yup. 10 seconds watching the mother's reaction tells you all you need to know
That’s the most astonishing thing about the whole case. The whole family of psychopaths just agreed that murdering a child who was already horrifically abused was the strategy. I hate them for their cruelty, I hate them for their indifference, and I hate them for their weakness.
@@justintatman2244
Maybe, but they are still in on it.
@@stt5v2002 You're a good man.
It’s possible that the father was abusing her, too. And then killed her because he feared he might have impregnated her.
I agree!!!!!!
I am confused though, wouldn't her body show if she had been pregnant? They never mentioned if she was or not just that it was a fear.
@@bedwards6867 they said her body was too decomposed a week after the murder in australian heat, too decomposed to determine cause of death. that also meant: they wouldn't have been able to tell if she was pregnant, asuming the sex was only a couple weeks before the murder.
@@carlcushmanhybels8159 I was under the assumption the abuse had been going on awhile, considering the fathers history with young children, but perhaps that is the reason, I just assumed it would be easy to tell if there was something there or not, maybe some animals got to it also.
Everything is possible
I remember this happening, I live just around the corner from Marsden High school where Tia went to school. The place they found her body me and my family were fishing/visiting just weeks before. This death put a hold on the whole of Logan, we were all searching and when everyone found out she'd died the whole of Marsden High held a day in her honour. Such a sad way for a beautiful young girl to go. This left a mark on our whole city and we'll all always remember this girl.
Truly sickening case. Poor baby girl. No one stood by her. No one was there to protect her or to save her.
Starting who should have above all, her sorry stupid biological mother.
The mother should also be in prison, she knew what was going on
Agreed
Yea, she did
100% she did….
lets get her
She got 18 months. A joke.
So frustrating that Rick's comment said "if any of her friends are hiding her again..." and seemingly no one thought it was weird that other children feeling the need to repeatedly hide this girl was just commonplace. This seems like a family who had everything, and still they took from that vulnerable little girl anyway. Absolute monsters.
Her mom failed her, her biological dad failed her, the system failed her, these foster monsters failed and destroyed her by taking advantage of her vulnerable state. She had nobody to turn to and these monsters knew it. Just because it’s possible to take advantage of someone in a vulnerable situation, doesn’t mean you should. These foster monsters should’ve all been given life in prison or the death penalty. I cringed when I heard the sentencing for the mother and sons. Poor Tia never had a chance!!!😔😔😔
How terrified this little girl must have been hurts my heart so bad....
Evil. Evil. Evil people. Terrible story.
this story broke my heart...
I know heart wrenching😥
Horrible what happened to this poor girl. I can't imagine how those evil foster parents managed to keep up the appearance of grieving relatives during her funeral.
Sick!!
That one boy making the claim in his message that she threatened to kill his dog if he didnt sleep with her is disgusting. Lying about the situation and shaming her in death to make himself appear more innocent. Real p.o.s.
He was giving such bullshit. I'm glad the person he sent it to gave the info to the police. Thank God one person didn't buy this bullshit.
@@Ant509y yeah but where was their call to crime stoppers before the reward was offered? I wonder if they claimed it?
And to think that POS only got 4 years and is off continuing his life. Disgusting!
Ruthless bastard!
How do we know he lied? I could be wrong but I believe he sent those messages before she died, so that's not "shaming her in death", either.
Obviously she didn't deserve death, but that doesn't make him a liar.
“Tia demanded sex or else she’d kill our dog” Absolutely horrible liar.
That's why he got 4 years. He's acting like a juvenile.
@@Scorch428 Please that's an obvious lie
I skipped that part of the video, and now I am glad I did.
@@Scorch428 you’re sick
Jaba the Hutt here has bars around his property like it is a jail, so . . .
Both Tia and her mother were strikingly beautiful (obviously that doesn’t matter - the story is just entirely heartbreaking) - what that disgusting monster did to Tia makes me so furious. She was thrown to the wolves, and that sociopath acted like he was heartbroken. That girl deserved a chance in life and that “good boy” stole her life.
This story is so heart-rending because Tia basically fled a crappy birth family only to end up in the clutches of the foster perverts. Everyone in the foster family failed to help this poor girl. The really despicable part is that they could've stopped it when the family had their first "discussion" about what to do about it. ANYONE of them could've been brave enough to stand up to the Dad and not go along with the ruse but none of them did sadly enough. I remember a famous quote that says:" All evil needs to succeed is for good people to do nothing".
I’m not sure if this video mentions this bc I haven’t watched yet but tias Mum put her into foster care because she was in a very bad domestic violence situation, she made the right choice
Then again.. if 'bad people' don't do anything.. what matters it what the 'good people' do?!
@@maddygreenb What a stupid thing to say. Obviously it wasn't the right choice to give her away or she would still be alive. The right choice for her mother would have been for her to get her sh*t together so she could raise Tia herself.
@@fruff30 Speaking as someone who was adopted, I vehemently disagree with you. We don't know if she would still be alive if she was still with her birth mother. While I agree that it's best for birth families to stay together when it is possible to do so, it seems to me that the most loving choice her birth mother felt she could make was to give her up. This is not a decision any parent makes lightly, especially when Tia was 7 years old when that decision was made. That tells me that she already tried to get her sh*t together as you so eloquently put it, but she was unable to. So she lovingly made the choice for her daughter to have what she thought would be a better and safer life. It is *not* her birth mother's fault that didn't happen. Let's hold the right people accountable here.
@@MelieneGardner she is partially responsible. The only way we can know our children will be kept safe is by not handing them over to strangers.
So a child predator father raised a child predator son and the mother enabled them both. The foster mom probably adopted Tialeigh for the sole purpose of exploiting her. The foster mom wasn’t just complicit she was a willing and ready accomplice.
Speculate much?
Just hearing how the mother speaks of the whole ordeal makes me shiver... Like she's talking about a simple outing
@@damac5136 I feel like that's pretty fucking obvious.
@@simonerea6681 Not to intelligent people.
@@damac5136 stop trolling, this is not the place 😒
He got the shite kicked out of him in prison.
Best part of this horrifying story. RIP BABY GIRL RIP.
@@xmikeox Mike says it in his video towards the end.
good. just like gabriel fernandez’s “mother”
@@bia-py2ry she was beaten? so glad to know!
Good. This is like Robert Hughes needing to wear jackets in summer due to the other inmates hurling urine and faeces at him.
@@ausgamecollector eweeee but bhhhaaaaa lol
That poor girl went from one nightmarish world straight into one much even worse . What an evil family through and through.
Yes, "Nothing Healthy Here" also applies to that whole family's home life. 🏡
So true, how sad for that poor girl.
Or Australia for that matter.
It’s always the “well respected” that turn out to be the most twisted puppies of them all.
@@anasty_arisaka754 ha, maybe not always., but yeah 90% of the time
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These cases make me want to foster children more. There’s so many horrible, horrible foster homes. I’d like to be one of the good ones.
That makes two of us. These children already have to deal with why their parents gave them up the least foster homes can do is show them someone cares for them
@@glamglam8347 Me too. Been thinking about it on and off for a few years. For most foster caring is just job and you're not supposed to get attached. I believe this is wrong. As you said hey need to see that there is someone who does want them and will care for them. X
@@markwaldonjohnson A family {UK} down the road used to foster ''Hard to place'' older children, and said girls were much harder work than boys, mainly because of the seedy men they attract {Teenaged girls}..I had no idea that this would be an issue, but it appeared to be a significant problem, that of keeping the girls ''Safe''.
In the end they only had boys, as far 'Easier'.
One boy {Of a different racial profile to them} was with them so many years and fitted in so well he asked if he could be formally adopted by them.
Amazingly it was allowed and he is now their legal son.
They have had lots of broken windows in their house..Fostering is not easy as the children have been so traumatised..but fostering teens is probably as ''Hard'' as it gets.
What happened to Tia is absolutely appalling, reminiscent of a ghastly case here of Becky Watts.
@@Oakleaf700 Yes. My Sister in law said girls are actually harder to foster too. Her siblings grew up in the system and I can see the effect it has had on them. The homes they were in weren't necessarily abusive but they were seen more as a job. But for some I guess the fact they have been abandoned is just too much and they develop a coping strategy which then stops them from being able to love or receive love. So sad.
DO IT.
This is actually in the coroners court at the moment, at no stage has the father ever denied sexually assaulting the poor kid, sounds like the entire family are predators.
It feels like the whole family was in on it but when they got caught, they had another "family meeting" and decided to pin the blame on the father so the others would get out in a couple of years. Why have the entire family doing life when just one is enough to take the fall?
@@phebes well said sister
@@phebes 😒 OMGOSH, SO SICK! THAT MOTHER & OLDEST SON DEFINITELY NEED TO BE IN PRISON! OLDEST SON NOT LOCKED UP LONG ENOUGH FOR RAPING YOUNG TAIHLEIGH. THAT
"MOM" IS AS SICK AS THEM! EVIL, ALL OF THEM 😠😠
💜 I'M SO SORRY TAIHLEIGH, MAY GOD HOLD YOU IN HIS LOVING ARM'S. YOU WILL NEVER BE HURT AGAIN ANGEL 🕊️👼🙏💜💜💜
@@katymcginn4644 Tiahleigh*
@@rollinstone6622 oh shut it
Well done Mike, you can easily tell you wasn’t comfortable at all doing this story but you did it with honour xxx RIP Tia xx
Good to see our children's services living up to their *stellar* reputation.
what else is new?
I keep saying it, but one day, ONE DAY, someone is going to blow the lid off child "so-called" services. One day......
Adult protective services is just as bad or worse.
Um no. Tia’s mom should’ve used birth control instead of birthing 4 kids she would abandon to maintain her sex life with an abusive boyfriend.
That’s the core problem, not an agency enlisted to clean up the messes they made. Use your brain.
I feel so so so terrible for this little girl. She unfortunately never got to know how good life really could be. She was failed by EVERYONE around her.
The message Trent sent a cousin about Tia saying "I just want the kid gone and out of my life, but I now she's also a sauce [sic] of income for mum and dad" says a lot about what's wrong about the foster system. Many adults choose to foster solely because of the money it generates and not because they care about children and the rates of abuse among foster children is extremely high.
His spelling abilities were on par with his dad's. Yikes!
was her kid soy? if i new my kid was a sauce idk what id do.
I like how you said "Many adults choose to foster solely because of the money it generates and not because they care about children". I have a co-worker who is currently a foster mom. She frequently tells me how "horrible" it is to be a foster mom and would never have done it if it wasn't for the money. And, the kicker? She works for CPS!!!! Yes, she is a social worker in the system who says crap like this openly! You can easily tell she cares more about her own blood child than the foster kid, too.
@@pksy1967 As a psychologist, I've met many survivors of abuse who didn't just experience abuse in their biological families but who endured serious abuse during years with various foster parents. In many such cases, one or both foster parents only choose to foster because they regard it as an extra source of income and not because they genuinely care for the children being fostered. So, unfortunately cases like this one that happened in Australia where I live are more the norm than the exception in regards to the motivations for fostering and abuse experienced in such environments.
There's also many cases like the one you mention whereby adults in the field of youth or social work who have often become 'hard-boiled' and embittered - whether due to that type of work or traits they had before entering the field - deliberately and rather cold-bloodedly decide to become foster parents for financial reasons. Many years ago now I heard of a woman who worked in CPS who had moved into our neighbourhood who decided to foster largely for financial reasons - she was a single parent with two biological children - and who was quite lacking in empathy, spoke openly to neighbours about how frustrated she was with a young boy in her "care" but she would always say the money she received was "worth the trouble" and she, too, clearly favoured her two biological children over this foster child. She moved away not long after starting to foster and I hadn't kept in contact; she wasn't someone I had anything in common with and I am fairly certain she knew I had heard of her views about fostering from other neighbours and didn't appreciate them.
There are some ethical caring adults who choose to foster because they genuinely desire to help children. Unfortunately, the foster care system is riddled with inadequate measures to safeguard the wellbeing of children and the potential foster parents are often not given what I think should be mandatory thorough psychological assessments. There's often very rigorous requirements for potential adoptees and it seems the foster system has quite low requirements especially by comparison which paves the way for people who are motivated by money and with psychological issues to quite easily be allowed to foster. The damage done to those who survive the abuse in foster 'care' is incalculable.
I used to work with foster children, helping socialize them, basically taking them to the mall and meet new friends their age. The reasons these kids were in the foster system in the first place, was absolutely horrible. I knew CPS that ended up quitting due to a case being too horrid for them to live with. They helped charge the father, then placed the child, quit shortly after. Just the worst shit happens to the most vulnerable of our society, then they go on to a foster home, who is supposed to give them another shot at a normal life, sometimes are abused further. Incredibly sad, and really reveals the cracks in our system.
Sorry but I think dad Rick may well have been abusing Tia himself giving his own history - also, his own younger son said his father would murder him if he tried to protect Tia! Josh knew his father was a psychopath.
the family should get more time... the fact they became a foster family and run a daycare ??? who are the social workers who approved them
It's called small government , cutting back on staff till the social workers are over loaded with work and can't do their job properly . We have money for war but no money for protecting children , mental health or homelessness .
@@romanbrandle319 well duh, we need to save all our money to give to rich people for home improvements. We can’t be wasting it on the needy.
the wife and the two sons should've gotten way harsher sentences, seeing as how they went along with the whole thing from the beginning. when they had their 'family meeting' it had to have been obvious what was going to happen. nobody is that naive
Also, this can’t have been the first time they circled the wagons; maybe not over murder, but this resolution was damned quick.
I'm glad that the inmates gave the son a nice warm welcome :)
What did they do??
@@inkeri2741 🤦♀️
@@inkeri2741 Kicked the living shit out of him.
Yeah but just 4 years for raping and ruining a girls life which also lead to her death is pretty terrible.
@@neobogard He should have got a life sentence. 4 years is pathetic for such serious child sexual abuse. Neither him nor his father should ever have the privilege or freedom to rejoin society.
I really feel for the bio mother in this case. Was she a good mum? No, clearly not. But she knew that, she loved her daughter and knew that she wasn't able to give Tiah the life she deserved. She trusted the care system to keep her safe and find her a loving home. But instead Tiah was handed over to monsters.
I admire the mothers admittance that she was incapable of looking after her child, as so many children have to suffer under the care of unfit parents. But the care system is broken. There are too many examples of tragic cases. Tiah, bless her. She deserved so much better from life.
I’m sick and tired of women like you. Her mom literally chose Dick over her own daughter. You feel sorry for her? Great. Just continue To give “mothers” like this a free ride and slap on the wrist so that the system can keep cleaning up their messes and more kids can be murdered because god forbid these worthless whores use sex toys instead of needing Dick over their own kids. Right. It’s the “system” that failed Tia.
I don't feel bad for her because she completely failed her daughter.
@@Ariadne76-k3d are you serious? She failed her by trying to give her a better life? Cindy did not and could not have known she would be MURDERED. You are disgusting. Grow up.
The mom caused this situation. She should get life in prison because she is the one that put little Tiah in this situation. Disgusting how anyone can feel sorry for th person who caused their child to be raped and murdered.
@@Ariadne76-k3d are you that arrogant?
"And Julie ran a daycare out of the house." Uh-oh...
That’s EXACTLY what I said! ‘Uh oh’ indeed 😑😬😓
And Rick was accused of sexual abuse of kids in her care.
So she was an enabler of the 'men's in her family when it came to their despicable behaviour
@@dshe8637 she must get some thrill out of it. It's like a family of psychos poor girl
Never ever leave your kids in an at home daycare! Period.
That really scared the life out of me when I heard that.
My heart aches. That poor girl, tossed around in the world like a rag doll until finally that POS tossed her out like trash because she was inconvenient.
So true. They're despicable, all of them.
I went to school with tia and we were in the same grade, i remember just 1 week before he disappearance she gave me jelly beans at school and when she was missing the whole school was in shock and tears. R.I.P Tia
She's looking down from heaven.
I still remember the beautiful little Tia's picture on the news when she was missing, and hoping that nothing had happened to her. The reality was worse than I ever imagined. Thanks for sharing your memory of Tia mate, as it's our remembering that keeps people alive in our hearts.
Spiros 😢😢😭😭
That's a beautiful memory, she seemed like such a sweet girl. It really is awful and tragic that her life ended so early and so cruelly. RIP Tia.
R.I.P Tias Beautiful Soul
Just when I think I have something to complain about, I hear a tragic story like Tia's. Her mother Cindy's fatalism led her into drugs and homelessness. Sad. I don't know her story. She tried to do right by Tia given her downward spiral. Thought she was protecting Tia from herself. Didn't realize those who were to protect Tia were harmful and deadly. RIP Tia. Blessings.
She was taken from the danger of an abusive man just to be put into the danger of other abusive men AND a mother who didn't care about her. God I am so sick.
Yes, for all the ‘concern’ that mother showed when Tialeigh went missing I call fake. Dumped the kid instead of making a new life with her, nah, drugs much more important. Didn’t listen to her daughter about the sexual abuse, hope she rots in hell. Poor kid.
@@jillgarlick2122 You are confusing the bio mom and foster mom. Bio mom gave her over to ensure her safety. She had no idea about the abuse. Foster mom knew about the abuse and probably even the murder plan.
Thats the world we live in. Horrible isnt it?
The whole family was cold and calculating, no tears for Tailiegh they even carried her coffin at the funeral Allow them should have been jailed for so much longer. Poor kid paid the ultimate price for a teen boy who couldn't keep his hands to himself.
I have a feeling that the father agreed to take in Tiahleigh because he had plans to abuse her himself. He was, after all, found to have previously abused other children in the past.
@Sinan Alas
WeLl, I’d only clarify that she was never his kid, period. It wasn’t only in his mind. Fostering a child is not the same thing as them being their kid. They are just a guardian.
Thank the disease of liberalism for the slap on the wrists they got
I hope with your mindset you aren’t around children. It doesn’t take sperm to be a parent
@@davedibin2981 "life without the possibility of parole (but only for 20 years)" That's aome bullshit along with the far too short sentences of the rapist older brother and evil mother.
Indeed it is a twisted worldview that leads to laws like this.
The fact that were more than 300 sex offenders only in one locality is already appaling enough
Logan is big
Every city in the world has those kinds of numbers and just a small percentage are ever caught. I do not let my kids out of my sight.
Not surprising since between 1788 and 1868, about 162,000 convicts were transported from Britain and Ireland to various penal colonies in Australia and almost 20% of modern Australians, in addition to 2 million Britons, are descended from transported convicts.
Oh and that many convicts were also sent to the US from Britain as well. If you look up the history, you will see that around 52,000 were sent to America and they settled mostly in the US. You have a look at our crime rate and the deaths related to crime, you will see our stats is so much lower. We don't have drive by shootings or shootings in nearly every area, ha we don't have a high stabbing rate either. Its also rare for us to get any mass shootings. Our last mass shooting occurred back in 1996. We have had a few horrible incidents since then but nothing on a massive acale such as what they get in the US. Our kids are safe in school cause their is limited risk of a kid coming in and shooting each other
My thought exactly
I used to live in Logan, this case is devastating and made me realise how fucked our docs system is, as someone who grew up in foster care it really broke me hearing about this case. You’re the first channel I’ve seen cover this case, so thank you
It seems like all these foster kids who end up in shitty foster homes, just get the short end of the stick. Isn't child services supposed to check in with the child/family every so often? Maybe this could have been avoided if someone actually listened to her. Just because she was a child, doesn't mean she didn't know what she was talking about. She just needed someone to listen and love her as a human and not as a paycheck.
R.I.P. Tia
Child Service ___ sucks just about everywhere.
Child services is a joke. I grew up in "state custody" and was in a terrible foster home, I would tell case workers weekly about the abuse done to myself, my sisters and all the other kids who came into that home. After 3 years they allowed the people to adopt us. It wasn't until 8 years after going through tremendous abuse did they finally do something. The foster families lie and say the children are making up the abuse or neglect because they want to go home to their families or so forth. Mine would say I was leaving bruises and wounds on myself to try to get taken off of them intentionally, my 2 older sisters were too afraid to speak up after the first year since they knew it was pointless. I was finally 16 when I watched my adopted mother be arrested and charged with child abuse. At age 20 I got into legal trouble for driving on suspended... my probation officer was my old case worker who ignored my pleas for help. She was in tears apologizing for what happened years prior and for not believing me, because she was related to the foster family and "thought she knew them". Turns out she left the line of work after feeling like she failed me and many other kids. I just wish more would open their eyes and truly investigate when children cry out for help. So many children have ended up dead because CPS failed to do their jobs.this is just 1 story. Imagine how many innocent children are out there right now dealing with pure hell due to CPS not doing their jobs!
Even if checked on, these children often clam up. Whether it is out of fear, or whatever the circumstances, they won't talk about the abuse. They pretend like everything is fine until they implode.
How can you trust an official from the agency that places you in a shifty situation to begin with? Why risk making things worse? What if the foster family finds out the child spoke up, and the abuse worsens? What if they get sent to an _even worse_ foster home?
Who _can_ you trust?
You couldn't imagine what's going through a child's head after they've been through so much. Some of these situations would be difficult for an _adult_ to process...
Just what I think 100%>
@@Ams_5590 Thank you for sharing your experience. I’m truly sorry you had to endure what must have been absolute hell for you. As a survivor of a different type of childhood abuse, I totally understand the ongoing and lifelong trauma it causes. It takes a lot of inner strength to overcome childhood trauma. My heart goes out to you and I hope dearly you come to some level of healing after all you must’ve been through. I hope life is better for you now. Hugs ❤️
“Life without the possibility of parole for twenty years”. That makes no damn sense! The son and mother’s sentences are way too short! Sickening! That poor girl. She endured so much. Truly horrible.
Why do you think the son should have been given a bigger sentence?
@@AlexV6 the justice system here is incredibly weak compared to other countries. I know someone who murdered his girlfriend he was given 7 yrs altogether...
@@leahhuntz6236 " I know someone who murdered his girlfriend he was given 6 yrs altogether..." I guess jury felt she deserved it?
There's a man who only got 56 years for raping and murdering his own daughter in Washington. The wide inconsistencies in every judicial system is sickening.
A single 'life sentence' in Australia is only 25 years 😪
That wife spent how many years covering up for her husband?? She should go down equally with him!
AMEN!!
Stuff like that pisses me off so much.
In what world was it okay to send a 12 year old girl to a home with 2 teenage boys?? As soon as I saw the family pic, it was INSTANT RED FLAG. Should have never happened, it's sickening and entirely preventable.
Not one of these people (use the term loosely) ever made mention of Tia, or exhibited any type of emotion regarding her death. It's like Tia never existed, how very sad and disturbing! This girl never had a chance in this life... Thanks Mike, again you're the best there is on youtube!!!
Hearing that Trent got beaten up in prison, fills my heart with joy😇
Shame he survived.
Yessssssss
And it annoys me that hypocritical murderers think they are better than sex offenders.
This little girl needed just one person to help her and no one ever did RIP Tia beautiful girl 💔
Yes., poor baby was all alone surrounded by monsters from her bio mother onward. 💔
My kids went to school with Tia and her brother. Unfortunately, there was a reason they were in out of home care. It's just very sad all around
@Jim Marbaz It's FAR better than the alternative....hence why it is easy. ADULTS realized this LONG AGO. Would you rather have had her druggie mom pimping her 11-12 yr old daughter out??? No?? Then stfu about how easy it is. There is DAMN GOOD reason it's set up the way it is. To prevent harm, and in most cases, it does.
Our child safety services here are pathetic.
@Jim Marbaz Everyone needs to stop hassling Tia's mother. She knew that she wasn't capable of taking care of her (most addicts drag their children along with them to places they shouldn't even know exist). She wanted Tia to have a stable life. There is no way she could have known Tia would be sent to a foster home she would be raped and killed.
I've said it before and I'll say it again "eyewitnesses" cannot be trusted at all. No one should ever go to jail based only on an eyewitness as people make stuff or create false memories all the time. We think our memories are like recording devices but in reality, every time we think about an event we remember it differently, as we remember remembering it and not the original memory.
They send people to jail after picking someone out from photographs based on a stranger they saw for moments during a high-stress crime. Now, these kids at school knew this girl and say they saw her when she was not there. They were convinced they saw her that day. That is how unreliable our memories are as they could just as easily remember seeing someone they know at a crime scene when they were not there. So imagine how much worse it gets when they are trying to remember someone they don't know.
You are so right. Compare with science where eyewitness is the lowest form of evidence.
I have extremly good memory (99,75 %-ile) when I actively memorise. Still, when it comes to typical non spectacular eyewitness situations, I remember them as bad as everybody else.
"oh no, mate" is not an appropriate reaction to finding out a child in your care is being abused but ok
I thought the same thing. Very strange.
Stood way out to instantly... like ha?
I was just thinking that. Son or not, I’d struggle to use the word ‘mate’.
I thought that was absurd response
Isn't that just the Australian dialect?
I live on the Gold Coast where this murder took place. It's so strange watching you tell this story about my city. Thanks for telling her story.
I know the woman who was Tialeigh's foster carer before the Thorburns.. She is still traumatised by what happened, and feels terrible guilt for not being able to maintain the placement. Trent & his family took advantage of a girl who just wanted to be loved. They deserved far worse punishment.
I absolutely agree. They got off way too easy
This is literally up the road from where I live and I feel like I've learned more from this than what the local News told.
It always pisses me off when i see 100’s of people at a funeral for someone that nobody cared about when they were alive, if even a fraction of those people cared about her before she died she probably wouldn’t have.
on point!
EXACTLY. I can't stand all the false empathy these days.
Not necessarily. You can feel genuine sadness for cases like that. Last summer we got an Amber Alert that gone wrong here in Quebec, I was just crying reading the news. ( That said I don't know why people actually shows up at funerals for people they don't know.... To show their support I guess )
What makes you think any of the people who showed up at the funeral knew Tia in life?
That little girl was an independent person with feelings and an entire life ahead of her, she didn’t have the best start in life and because of that they treated her like some sort of doll they could abuse and kill when it went wrong. Absolutely heartbreaking. Rip sweetheart xx
Wow! Trent messaging a friend that Tiahleigh forced him to have sex with her otherwise she'd "kill his dog Lewis" is the absolute cherry ontop of disgusting. Even the most gullible person in the world wouldn't believe that 🤦🤢🤮
Sadly, it is plausible. I had a friend who had been abused, and her way of acting out was to get sex. I was asked to talk to her about her putting the moves on. Maybe it was a way of taking control.
@Jim Marbaz Maybe you should look up the word "plausible." If you weren't there, you can't know what happened.
@@scallopohare9431 Are you seriously that naïve? I doubt it....
@@scallopohare9431 she’s 12 and he is a 19 year old man !!!!! Don’t be ridiculous
@@scallopohare9431 Was your friend 12 ????
The sentences seem so minor in this case. I truly hope the daycare children received the help they needed to have the best chance of a healthy life after the tragedy's the had suffered in that home. As for the boys, growing up in that sort of environment obviously affected their decisions. With that said, they all had a choice and they choose poorly. Life is hard and I don’t pretend to understand the dynamics of this situation. But, I do think listening to stories that Mike puts out will help some who may be currently naïve to trouble and have others rethink their behaviors. Thank you Mike for your narratives.
And to think, Tialeigh’s mom gave her up thinking she’d have a better, more prosperous life💔
@Guerrilla Warfare COD ok incel
@Guerrilla Warfare COD what is wrong with you?
@Guerrilla Warfare COD I do realize arguing with you is going to be pointless but how is this girl's bio mother to blame whatsoever? I get that you think defending her is "tribalism" feminist bs but she did nothing wrong?
@Guerrilla Warfare COD I feel so sorry for you.
Yet she didn't take custody back when she was able to, so had more children and left Tia in foster care. Disgusting. Her "mother" is 100% to blame
That poor girl was let down by every single person in her heartbreakingly short life.
Everyone seems to care.....after it is too late. So sad.
@@englishrupe01 I know, always seems to be the case. I wish people had the courage to speak up when it's so desperately needed instead of how they thought something was off, but didn't want to interfere etc.....
I've seen great foster parents and even some men who aren't related to kids (dated their mother when the kids were young) step up and help support and mentor boys. Sadly, they seem like the minority when the news is overwhelmed with stories like this.
How Disgusting To Carry Her Casket Right After You Killed Her 😩
Psycho in my opinion
Yep that sticks in my craw too.
Poor girl breaks my heart deeply
As a former foster child I know what it's like to be abused and have nobody believe you. This poor little girl never had a chance to grow up. 💔
Me too, it was terrible! As a mother myself now I devote my life to them so they'll never have to go through what I did and what millions of other innocent children go through everyday as the system FAILS most children!
I hope you both are in a good place now. Good luck to both of you in the future.
@@Ams_5590 I'm so glad you were able to firstly survive and secondly become a good mother. Love and continued strength to you.
I'm so angry that happened to you. I wish you all the best in life.
This poor kid, everywhere she is, she is treated so badly.
the poor little girl didn't stand a chance.
@@suzyrottencrotch5132 Your surname is fitting.
@@ludibrium8154 I’m a professor of logic
@@suzyrottencrotch5132 cringe
@@suzyrottencrotch5132 nah, you're just a troll
The system failed this poor child. They were notified about the abuse and didn't immediately act.
Scary to think how many more out there that have gone under the radar thanks to such incompetence!
Yeah kinda like what happen to Gabriel Fernandez, it’s just absolutely sick sick sick sick fk up mentally deranged coward individuals. I couldn’t finish his documentary bc it pissed me off so much. It is just absolutely despicable absolutely senseless, and deranged
Euclid ave in S.D? Lol
It is worse than incompetence, it is indifference.
You have a way to bring humour into very grim stories without mocking the victims or making light of the situation. Well done 👍
The son who Sexually abused her, Trent, has just been charged with burglary. Stealing from a camping store.
Absolutely tragic story, poor girl. She was Failed in so many ways by so many people. 😥😞
I don't know the law in Australia, but in my country you could charge him with having sex with a minor. Can't you do this in Australia too?
@@jana731 absolutely, not sure if they did or not
Ya, the system really is corrupt. I wanted the whole family to spend life in jail but they basically get out with misdemeanor charges. It’s unjust
Totally agree. Poor little Tialeigh must of hated living with them. I can't imagine much love or genuine care was shown from either parent, and the teenage son's would of resented her! She must of felt sooo uncomfortable living with them!😥 Tragic. R.I.P Tialeigh 🌷💜
I hope it was because they are living in the streets. No one should ever talk to those boys again or hire that disgusting pig of a mother. They should have all been executed. Aiding in the murder of a child that was dumped in a swamp! I have no faith in the justice system whatsoever anymore. They spend more time focused on how to make money than they do protecting women and children. Disturbing beyond belief
Unfortunately, there are millions of Tia’s in the world and they are constantly overlooked. 😤🤬 Every country is overdue for decent social workers…
They do it deliberately and often steal kids from loving parents because the parents broke some shitty rules of theirs..then the kids end up with money grubbing scum
And decent funding of social workers!
@@sarakeeet speaking way too much common-sense… the stats are there, people choose to ignore it 🤷🏾♀️
@@sheffieldamanda AGREED! However, “most” people don’t become social workers for the pay. Well my colleagues weren’t lol doesn’t negate the fact that most are underpaid (teachers and Leo’s included) 😒
@@MontanaDior LEOs make much better money than social workers and have a fraction of the training
This is absolutely horrific. I am so so for everything this little girl had to do through. She deserved a chance, she deserved someone to protect her.
Me too, I really didn't see this coming and it's..
She deserved a mother and father, but that never happened.
@@IChIDH Of course yes, tragically met this sick family instead..
@@DaveSCameron my point was she deserved a mother and a father so she would have never had to.
@@IChIDH Yes that's what I understood..
Thank you again Mike for honoring this young girl and for the story behind her murder. I love watching you Mike. 🥰
Imagine how the parents who had their children in daycare in that home feel. This is heartbreaking.
Right the father didnt want to ruin the familys name, but now theyre a whole family of felons.
Imagine how Tiahleighs parents felt?
Supposedly, their were claims that he had sexually abused some of the daycare kids.
Why is it that in every case like this, when the child goes to Child Services and tells them what's going on, Child Services NEVER DOES ANYTHING!!!
Yeah, I thought that was only in America. Not the only first world country full of lazy, incompetent people.
THEY DONT CARE ABOUT THE CHILDREN
@@prodbaxi They do. They are just underfunded and understaffed and can't PHYSICALLY cover cases. Why don't you vote for politicians who will fund them, instead of the military for example, instead of complaining on youtube?
It's the same for 911 - outdated tech, budget that hasn't increased in 30 YEARS, understaffed...
What kills me is that she probably kept running away because of the abuse... For all we know the father probably did something as well! The system failed that poor girl and justice still hasn't properly been served
@@johnandevefoster3816 They certainly do. What they can't do however is being wizards.
They PHYSICALLY can't get through all the cases being thrown their way. They are overworked, under-payed and understaffed. Years of money being taken away from those programs will do that.
Are you angry? Good. Cause you and me are more responsible than they. We keep voting for rich cocksuckers that don't give a shit about people and social programs. We created those conditions...
Cause let me assure you - you don't go into a job that is underpayed and you will be forced to do 70+ hours a week in HORRENDOUS conditions, unless you love your job and want to help people...
That poor girl. She was never given a chance in life. Completely tragic.
As a Father of a 11 year old girl this hits me on another level. God Bless you Tia and all that love her. 🙏❤
I feel bad for her mother having to live with the fact that she thought she was giving her daughter a better chance at life by putting her in foster care and having to live with that lose
I don't. She could have pulled herself together and gotten sober, or just not had a child she couldn't care for.
@@Ariadne76-k3dshe was a victim of domestic violence. Watch this again and blame the beater.
@@susanelaine1644 I have mixed feelings about the mom., I actually think I just don’t have enough information to really have an opinion … on one hand, she sent her daughter away at first bc of the abusive relationship, but then instead of working on making things better for herself so she could get her daughter back (safely), she turned to drugs … but at the same time, people DO have things happen to them that destroy their lives, and having kids doesn’t make anyone immune from that … I guess I’d really want to know more about her situation. Did she choose the abusive man over her daughter? Some people have options, but choose to stay with their abuser out of “love” 🙄 or was she in a lose/ lose situation? Was the drug use a result of wanting to party, or was she given a prescription for something and was addicted before she realized it? There are so many variables where the mom is concerned that I can’t truly sympathise with her, or blame her. Either way, I do feel badly for her in that her life was obviously a mess, and now she has to live with this, regardless of if she could have done something to stop it or not.