I Made The World's Largest Articulating Lamp. (Part 6)
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Alec has made hundreds of knives and swords and his giant desk lamp is the most deadly thing of them all…
I absolutely sympathise with Jamie and that jump he made at 5:52 when the lamp fell a little bit and clanged right next to him.
It's after all hazmat orange. Should be reflective orange for true hazmat warning signs though.
@@ehsnils He should have put yellow and black stripes on it too!
The amount of "the unhinged giggle of a man who knows he's making a potentially catastrophic mistake" in this episode is WONDERFUL
"I have decided that ours is bigger, with no means of actually proving it." This line was so well delivered you had me cracking up >.< love the videos and humor throughout!
You should mount some steel rods inside through the springs so if they break they don't shoot off like a rocket. That's what they do with garage door springs.
Honestly, as amazing as all this is, I couldn't help but think that at some point one or more of those springs is going to explode in the background of another video and that lamp is going to come crashing down. Seems to me that with the weights involved, skipping the engineering phase is the same as skipping the safety phase. I really hope they took the appropriate precautions and just didn't include them in the video.
The metal rods used inside garage door springs are generally for springs which are used in torsion, not in tension.
Alec's springs are used in tension.
It would not be possible to put a solid rod inside those springs (if you did, the spring wouldn't be able to stretch).
The only thing I can think of which could be added to Alec's springs for safety would be sone sort of cable tether which would need to be long enough to allow the spring to reach its full stretch. No idea where the slack would live when the spring was compressed though.
The energy in this design should frighten anyone within 10 metres of it.
cable would be easier, & safer
Just use a hydraulic system with fake springs on the outside 😉
All problems of balance solved, issues articulating solved and safety solved. If you notice, little toys that have been scaled down utilize springs that simulate the hydraulics of the original excavator/dump truck/crane so the way to scale up a spring is... You guessed it... HYDRAULICS. 😊😊
@@Finn-McCoolI was just thinking that same thing, thinking he could use long travel hydraulic or nitrogen charged shocks in place of the springs. Something from an 4x4/offroad application would probably be the ticket.
Or he could use a double acting hydraulic cylinder with the extend/retract ports linked together with a tube hose, making them essentially self acting just like a spring. That would allow him to fine tune them with different oil viscosities or orifice size to adjust flow rate for a nice smooth, easy, balanced, movement, a system like that would never see pressures high enough to cause catastrophic damage should a part fail.
Alec, mate, I was in industrial maintenance and I spotted a problem with the base you made. Do future Alec a favor and read my post:
The hole and pin in the base you are really going to want to put some anti-seize compound (it isn't grease, it has more to it than that) in case you ever want to get that pin out again or it will rust weld itself in there in a surprisingly fast amount of time. You are in England, the land of moistness, so we are talking just a few months before it will take a wheel puller and one year before a torch would be involved. If you pulled it now and put some anti-seize compound, it will just take a few whacks with a and a little heat at most in a decade or two's time to pop it out.
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Alec's responce to Jamie scaring him is perfect and pricelss
A bit of friction in your pivots would likely get you easily to the place where you can adjust it and it stays in position.
friction is most definitely what is holding the lamp stable after moving it. the springs just have a pressure balance to make the object "weightless" so that the object can be easily moved but also able to be held stable by the friction at the joints
Exactly. Tune the spring loading as best you can, and friction hinges to fine tune it, like a friction window stay or similar.
Mmmm.
Yup, that’s what she said.
The problem with this is the scale. Friction in the joints of the small version can work without requiring much force to move because the cantilevered mass is small. You need to scale that friction up to have stability with such a large mass, and that scales up the manual pushing force required to overcome it. With the amount of steel he has hanging up there, it's likely the necessary friction would be ridiculously hard to overcome by hand.
@@stevewells20 they need to remake the lamp shade in aluminum, like the original. If he makes a steel shade the size of the original and puts it on the original lamp, it won't work.
Something I'm sure others have mentioned- Some designs for these lamps use a 'pinch' force at the elbow and the shoulder to help adjust the poseability. An adjuster knob on the side of the joint squeezes the bracket holding one or more of the armatures, increasing the friction on the hinge and making it stick, but not so tight that the user can't move it with aid from the spring.
It’s insane how things scale. It’s such a massive difference
Yeah who would have thought the worlds largest would be so much bigger
If you double the linear dimensions you increase the volume by a factor 8. So say a cube that is a foot long per side is 1 cubic foot. But a cube that is 2 feet per side is 8 cubic feet. Double it again to 4 feet per side and now your volume is 64 cubic feet.
Alot of things cannot be scaled to such a degree I'm glad this worked tho
This has been the goofiest, most silly thing I’ve ever seen done. I’ve loved every minute.
If you look on the original Anglepoise lamp you can adjust the tension of the springs by winding them in to the end caps.
Alec Steele being Alec Steele absolutely love it
Scaling is a complicated affair. It can be painfully obvious and aggravatingly oblique at the same time. That said, when it comes to leverages, i don't think you're far from a solution to make it life like, but just not with a bought spring. This puppy needs its own custom springs, formulated to the specific size and extension required. UK has quite a few custom spring shops, maybe reach out to them? They'll not only be able to make it, but they'll also know what kind of spring you need. I think it's worth it.
Love the lamp! I also love the slick advertising. It's the best integration of the ad with the video I've ever seen.
I actually love projects like this that are interesting, and you’ve never seen done before
I appreciate that you wanted it to look as much like the smaller model as possible, but I really think a few changes would have been better to make it more effective and safe. Namely, the tension system.
1. Using counterweights to reduce the amount of tension in the system
2. Increasing the lever lengths to increase mechanical advantage
3. Using pneumatic cylinders instead of springs that can suck in or bleed out air to equalize pressure. This could make the system easier to balance and have a safer failure state than springs.
Now I'm not sure if I'm right here, but the antique lamp might be using the type of spring that's called a linear spring (which continues to stretch or compress under the same or very similar load). What you're using is definitely a progressive spring (which stiffens up the more you stretch or compress it from its original position). That might make the difference of the lamp being able to rest at whatever position you set it to.
I think you got that backwards. Most springs are linear. Progressive springs are indeed a thing, but not common to my knowledge. All springs follow Hooke's Law, which states that force is directly proportional to spring displacement, and those springs he use seem very linear to me. A progressive spring just has a change in geometry along its work length, whether diameter, wire size, pitch, etc. I think his problem was simply that he didn't use enough spring and counterbalanced more force.
@@duodotI assume he means constant pressure springs by linear. As in the force applied is roughly constant through a range of travel with a specific pretensioning
The angel poise design uses a spring called a zero free length spring. This means that if you draw a force to length graph the line will cross the 0 force at 0 length.
The spring are made with a pretension to get this feature.
Aside from some of the temporary things you've done to move heavy equipment, this is easily the most dangerous thing you've built. I've seen those kinds of springs explode before (garage door extension springs), and it's shocking what power is released when they do. In the ones I've been around there was no indication that failure was coming, it was just extended (ie. garage door down), then a loud bang as one snapped, and the spring was in 2-3 pieces. I honestly don't understand how the one broke into 3 pieces, but it sent a small coil out of the middle flying against the wall and then it hit the floor and rolled away.
In those cases, the garage door was down so the spring was the only hazard, but in your case that means a lot of mass suddenly unsupported high in the air. With that configuration, whichever pair of springs is holding it up will have one failure followed briefly by the other overextending and then a second failure, so you may have some warning. But I wouldn't rely on it. I strongly recommend giving this some sort of safety cable or something to catch it if it breaks loose.
Love your channel and the crazy things you make, so please don't get yourself killed with your lamp.
These arent garage door springs they gave up on thoose these are the springs used for clay disk throwing machines
@@emeraldbonsaiFair enough. Though the failure mode is the same.
Please we all need a Alec Steele and Colin Furze collaboration. The madness the 2 of you could come up with needs to be in the world. You're both so mad but capable of stunning engineering and neither of you let "it's not possible" be part of the conversation.
Also honestly not sure if "it's not going in!" "Spit on it and wiggle it about a bit!" is really something you should be saying without at least acknowledging the innuendo of the comment with a subtle raised eyebrow or something. Golden opportunities going to waste.
Hydraulics would give you the control you need.
I think adding a mechanical way of articulating it would add a lot to the functionality. Lead screws in parallel with the springs with a hand wheel/ crank on it would be pretty easy to implement. If it's added in parallel with the springs then it should take a relatively small amount of force to articulate it.
Yes, something like this would be super. I kinda want one made for out in the yard. Would be quite cool. The screw thing would be far better of an idea as you could crank them to get the light where you want it at.
That lamp is so cool. 😍
What i need now is a collab with you and Simone Giertz who also loves to make everyday objects huge. 🙏🏼
I'd put parralel stainless steel rope straps in parralel with each spring in case a spring breaks the straps will also prevent the springs from over-stretching. Wonderful lamp and i love the final look. Cheers for sharing the build, man!
You young man are crazy intelligent and I really admire that. Very fun watching the build. Stay safe.
I like that you made it orange so nobody would trip over it, good stuff.
If you don't get Pixar Studios to make you an offer on that, both of you would be missing the boat.
Could you imagine that sitting in a small roundabout island at or near the entrance of their campus entrance, or in the center of a fountain in front of the main building. Add some robotics to make it move like a spotlight shining to the sky at night,. Absolute magic!
I'm so glad we're back. The drop forge was EXCELLENT but I just cant wait for LAMP
YES NEW JAMIE VIDEO (featuring Alec) joking joking youre both great
The ones we have in Denmark are switched on top of the shade, and I was hoping to see you guys rigging up ropes to turn it on 😂 have loved this journey, it feels a lot like "the good old days"
These lamps hold themselves in place with more than just spring tension. There's a certain level of friction in all the pivots to allow it to stick in place with the HELP of the springs. If all the joints in the arm are free-moving, then you're going to keep fighting with the balance forever.
New AS vid, New ToT vid, new IM vid, New CF vid, and anticipation of tomorrow's BH vid. This has been a good week
I've seen a similar art installation once, but it was welded in position. This is absolutely bonkers and you can be proud of your work!
It's the friction in the joints that allows the lamp to hold in various positions, not balance of spring force. Balancing spring force will only hold it in the one "at rest" position that your lamp stays in. That's why you're having trouble scaling, the coefficient of friction isn't linear. You need like a wheel on the bolts at the joints to be able to loosen/tighten the joint friction. Some knurling of the opposing box-steel surfaces would also help to increase joint friction.
Nice work Alec and Jamie on this project
Hi
Replace (or support) the springs with pneumatic cylinders so you can use the shop air to position it!
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Coolest shop light ever made!!
Great video, lots of laughs. Many years ago, before Health and Safety, we used to have a metal sheet and hammer hanging in the lab. If someone was about do do something "dangerous", you would creep up behind them with the plate and give it an almighty bang with the hammer. What fun! BTW, on the website, I think the quote should be "“A grinder and paint will make me the welder I ain’t”
Well done to you both for finishing it. That must have been an absolute headache to engineer.
Also have to say, despite all the jumpscares Jamie has done to Alec, the ones Alec has done to Jamie are even more satisfying! Saying that either way it never gets old. Keep putting out cracking content lads!
If you want to do some forging again, I’d suggest making a Halligan Tool out of Damascus Steel for your local Fire Department, you could maybe even turn that project into a lesson on Workshop safety!
glad the leverage ideas helped!
I remember when you were in a small dirty shop, and now you're building these awesome crazy projects. Congratulations, Alec! You make my day every time I see your videos. Cheers 🍻 mate. Looking forward to more.
The finished lamp looks absolutely brilliant! The size of the lamps in Spain can be extrapolated, if something at a known height (or width) can be determined in the photos. Now all we need is the world's largest desk to set the lamp on, or the world's largest reading chair sitting next to it! Keep doing what you do 😁👍‼
Surely the size of lamps in other countries can be extrapolated also?
epic! this is the kind of stuff I love seeing. take something normal and scale it up to a ridiculous size. Specifically a lamp this size is something I've been dreaming about for years, and seeing someone making it happen is amazing :)
congratulations on your new desk lamp!
Good job boys you got four advertisements in this one segment first square space in fact the whole show was about square space I love it. Good job.
It's not only about spring tension, but also about JOINT FRICTION.
You should add black strips to it and make it a "WHO DEY" lamp!! As always keep up the FANTASTIC work!!!
Jamie bringing the comedy! Really laughed at him shouting bang.
I've got a sword forging idea for you. You should forge a life sized replica of "The Hand of Malenia" from Elden Ring keep in mind. Malenia from Elden Ring was apparently 8 feet tall.
Awesome project. This thing is super cool but those springs under constant tension is absolutely horrifying. That much potential energy being released in a failure could definitely maim or even kill you, never mind the thing crashing down on you. I'd lash it to the ceiling and take most of the tension off the springs just to be safe, we know it works after all!
The glow up at the end really finished this project off beautifully :)
This thing is by far the best "center piece" you could have in your shop!
Replace the springs with linear actuators so you can control it without having to get on a ladder.
Been a fan since the "videos every day" with Sam in Bakersfield. 8+ years now. Glad youre still going strong with your dreams. Miss the old style videos of forging and making things. Videos and the channel now just seem to be placeholders for sponsor ads. Hope you rekindle the flame/forge and get back to basics eventually. TH-cam kills us with ads every 2mins as it is. Make the content more than just advertising if you can.
The original is relying on the friction in the joints to act as a brake and overcome any imbalance in the spring forces at rest. Your joints are so much smaller relative to the lengths of the armatures that you're never going to achieve exactly the same result that eay.
The mounting of the arm was a great depiction of "apes together strong" 😂
Very much looking forward to the humongous desk video series you're certainly working on to go along with this lamp
You can get custom springs manufactured.
I have had small ones made in the past, but something of that scale might be difficult and be expensive.
Durham city has a giant Anglepoise lamp artwork thing left over after the Lumiere festival last weekend.
Awesome build!! Only thought, as I sit here looking at the microphone arm on my desk, is adding a spring set at the upper joint as well. Don't think you really need it, but that was my thought. Mind you, there are a couple of differences between the mic arm and your lamp arm design, but just a thought.
Maybe someone like Mark Rober could help by coming up with creative ideas to solve the balance problem
Picked a fantastic final colour for it. Looks awesome.
This is a proper work of art, I would love to have this as an installation in my yard😍
Yeah! You are getting it!
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lol @ 5:55 when Jamie jumps. "what happened?!" "...nothin'"
Not gunna lie, this lamp turned out unnecessarily sexy. Logistically so complicated too but it's fascinating watching you problem solve.
Making the lamp head lighter might make it easier to balance. Some “vents” in the top and a bit shorter cone in front could reduce the weight substantially
Jamie’s last act in earth. Looking up at a ginormous lamp as it creaks eerily.
God damn I nearly died when he went BAAM!! 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
no way you actually finished, really loved this project
Jamie, that was the perfect timing!
I made a 2.5m high ang;lepoise patio heater a few years ago and actually did the maths and they just don't scale. You need a zero length spring which in practical terms doesn't exist. At a small scale the friction at the pivots allows the various poise angles. Even anglepoise's own giant lamp only balances at certain points. Still cool though if you get it to balance at a pleasing angle.
As a suggestion, for the base swivel to calm the swinging a bit, add a chain or belt arrangement so the swivel is controlled by a wheel that can be locked off. Would be safer and give you a reason to show off forging and creating large roller chain and gears 😅
What a flex! Tell me you're a metal worker without telling me you're a metal worker.
Good luck with it Alec. Thanks for filming the process. 😁👍🏼
You had a sympathetic thumbs up for enduring with this mad project. Something more sensible next, perhaps. If only for a break from the ludicrous. Great job hehe
I can't believe you painted it in the workshop. You're gonna have orange overspray on everything!
I feel like counterweights could help balance the lamp and take a whole lot of work off the springs
Even if they did, which in not sure, you would need some seriously heavy counterweights
Don’t complain, this is how he can provide high quality videos for free. Other TH-camrs have unskippable ads which is way more frustrating
I really love how trying to get it in the hole just devolves into you guys going caveman by yelling and banging on things to make them work.
*best David Attenborough voice I can muster*
The metalworker, in its native habitat, sees something that displeases it, and quickly rushes to rectify the mater with its signature pair of tools ; a hammer and threating war-cries. Though we know it maybe better served by sneaking up on the iron, as it is prone to bouts of inactivity for lengthy periods of time. Iron always knows when danger is near because of the near constant howls and clangs that accompany the metalworker wherever it goes.
You guys are nuts!!!! “Only touch it if you’re going to make life easier” 😂😂😂
I have been obsessively checking for this video for weeks and it did not disappoint! What’s next fellas?!
I'd bet Pixar might be interested in having that lamp in their lobby or something like that. How cool would that be!
This was a fun project to watch
Bro put 4 sponsor segments in his video, he's grinding for the whole family
Watching Alec lose it and start swearing was absolutely beautiful 😂😂
I dont think you need struts, but you could shield the springs. One spring has already been shown sufficient to support the lamp, so the lamp falling on someone seems impossible, but getting hit by the springs is still possible if it fails
I can't wait to see the desk you put it on.
I have never before enjoyed your videos more. That rhymes so it must be true.
The cable and connectors and glands need to be supersized too. How about braiding some thick rope to look like giant cable?❤😊
Replace the springs with hydrolics. You would be able to adjust it to any position with a couple of levers. Definatly more involved and expensive than the springs, but you've come this far, no turning back now 😂
Linear actuator's would probably be easier to use.
From 'Hazard Yellow' to 'Workshop Orange'. I like both, but the orange really pops!
5:54 gets all the chuckles!!! Push Repeatedly for even more chuckles
The shade is SO MUCH MORE of the weight, than a typical anglepoise (sp) lamp's shade is, that the springs in a normal one are basically irrelevant in terms of relevant transferable information for up scaling it.
I would bet your shade is like double or triple the % of the mass that the shade is on a regular anglepoise.
Looks beautiful and I love it though.
Should have made the shade aluminum like the original.
Jesus, even I jumped at that “bang!” 😂😂😂
Consider using counter weight on the arm. It should help the springs. The key to remember you want to balance like a mobile over a baby crib to creat neutral buoyancy.
Just an idea, what if you use a car jack insted of springs? So you can adjust the lenght of everything just by pumping a littlebit. btw it's so cool like this!
"⁶⁶Spit on it" lol. Alec is as innocent as he seems. Lmmfao
Oh Yeah!!! Thanks Alec!!!
Well done ... I had my doubts in the early parts of this project!
LMAO that jump scare 🤣😂🤣😂 he's a real friend