Using a Roland JV1080 for Media Composition in 2021?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ม.ค. 2021
- The Roland JV1080 is an iconic electronic instrument from the 1990s, but does it have a place in contemporary media composition in 2021?
Some links:
- Roland JV1080: www.roland.com/uk/products/jv...
- Roland JV1080 Plugin: www.roland.com/uk/products/rc...
- JV-XP Editor: ctrlr.org/jv-xp-editor-for-ro...
- LFO.store “Planet JV” Presets: lfo.store/shop/hardware-synth...
- SysEx Librarian: www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/ - เพลง
I personally have a JV-2080. I bought a few years ago for only $200 US. I have a few cards loaded in it that I also got for dirt cheap. I have the World, Asia, Vintage Synths, Keyboards of the 60s & 70s, Special FX, Orchestral and Techno. This is an awesome synth with these cards. I plan to pick up a JV-1080 to join my 2080. This was a great video. I learned alot more abouth this synth. Thanks for your video. 👍👍👍👍👍
Bargain pick up on the 2080! Have fun with them.
Thanks for your video, I learnt the existence of an editor for the Roland JV-2080, a wonderful instrument I gave up programming due to the lack of editor librarians for the Macintosh.
I just use it to get away from the computer when playing and writing songs.It's very satisfying.Excellent video.Thanks
Each Patch essentially has 4 Oscillators, 4 Filters, and at least 12 Envelopes.
Each Patch is as deep (or more) as a JD-800. Really deep voice architecture.
I just downloaded the 64-bit VST version combined with the stand alone app/editor.
Should be able to automate my XP-3080 from it in my DAW as well.
Add in support for the SR-JV80 expansion cards. This looks kick-ass!
It certainly is an impressive synth!
The JD-800 looks good, that is it. But is barely better than a Roland D-5. Is so limited, you can not sync LFOs to midi, it does not transmit/ receive CC control. I have it just because it looks good but is only 4 parts as well. Whatever it does, anything can do it better.
Very popular with video game music composers of the 1990s, too! The patches on this wonderful machine are my childhood in a box. Amazing system - still use mine :)
Same, it may sound silly but I'm so grateful to have been born during the era of the synth. So many great sounds and songs from those things. Modern garbage simply cannot compare.
The JV sounds are all over Metal Gear Solid.
@@BristecomI mean, sample libraries are much more detailed. The issue is, I think they are too detailed. The reality is, next to no composer has the time to spend hours and hours perfectly configuring articulations, drawing in realistic expression, bow changes and stuff on strings. Problem is, when you don't, any corner you cut is painfully obvious. The JV/XV synths sound beautiful out of the box and can be adjusted to measure, definitely easier on the XV-5080 as it has a much larger display than the JV-1080. The sounds are very musical, that's something most modern libraries lack... musicality.
Considering most musicians will easily be able to tell a VST performance apart from a real performance, it seems silly to me now spending so much on these libraries which never will be a real orchestra and each year a new version comes out and everyone rushes to buy it. I'm pretty much limiting myself to my existing libraries for percussion and whatnot but just going to exclusively use my XV-5080, MS-20 to make some new music.
At least for mock ups I can achieve what I want quickly and then if I really wanted it ti sound better I could spend a few weeks mixing some better modern libraries to perfection but, as said, most musicians will still be able to tell it's not real so I struggle to see the benefit anymore.
After 10 years of not using it (or only using it for "show and tell" for my university students), I decided to bring it back to my studio. Just plugged it in today. It still sounds great!! I'm excited about using it again in upcoming compositions. I have to try the editor.
Excellent! Following this video I made two tracks that featured JV1080 sounds.
I have a 1080 alongside a MS-20, modular synthesizer, and my DAW. I love it.
Thank you for this great Demo. I have had my JV-1080 since it came out and it is still plugged in and working well. I bought the sound effects card and the Nature Menu patch, Still Rules. Thanks again.
If you haven’t already, I would highly recommend getting the LFO Store patches for the JV1080 - they are really well programmed and bring it a modern character that’s really good
Absolutely! I still rock a Roland 2080 myself. Originally was going to get the 1080 but since the 2080 has twice as much expansion bays and fx, went that route.
Thanx a lot - owning a JV-1080 for many years and always struggling with the editing (I published a mapping table for Cubase though) , I'm so glad for your info / link to the excellent JV-XP Editor ! 😃 and of course the "can't get no sleep" part .... relaunch in using it more !!!
Série JV e XP d Roland. Marcaram para sempre!!
I’m kinda rediscovering the XP-30 I’ve owned since 1999. 1400 patches, 28 drum kits, it’s really still a great device.
Programming digital synths is a big undertaking. Definitely a hard but rewarding rabbit hole to go down. Like anything, you learn what tends to work and what doesn’t. My tip is to use your imagination alongside just trying and listening as you experiment. Keep good records of what you do.
*WELL DONE! I never knew about that GUI.*
Interesting you mention about the FX in performance mode. Something I hadn't realised before, but kind of explains why my patches did sound different when played in multi timbral mode. Great unit though. I use it, along with some other classic digital rack synths, with my MMT-8 hardware sequencers (2 of them). I don't use a DAW. I have recently purchased the Planet JV and Analogue dreams sound sets from the LFO store. Highly recommended.
Never getting rid of mine, plus the JD-990!
JV1080 has a very good overall sound. There is something special about it. Also the Don Solaris sound set is a good collection.
Short answer: Yes.
And it will always have a place in my heart and compositions
I have a Logic multi-Timbral instrument I pickup up at some point that has the default patch names loaded for many popular synths. Works good.
Awesome video!!! Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
It's timeless. Best model out there.👍
Glad to have discovered your channel and I appreciate this discussion. Since late 2018 I have been slowly building my studio, including constructing my own customized desk. Back in 1987 I began buying numerous rack mounted synthesizers, along with a Roland 300 keyboard controller and a Yamaha DX-7. Even though my current studio setup is all digital software based, at some point I will integrate my rack mount units in the development of sound development and the creation of music. Far as I am concerned, just because it is all analogue, does not mean it cannot be utilized on ones workflow.
I have certainly enjoyed using this in my workflow, even if I digitally convert as some point to deal in just audio. Look forward to hearing about your rack mounted adventures!
@@StephenTallamyMusic , it will be a time I coming but some day. Take care and all the best to you, Egmont
I'm actually rediscovering the JV-1080 nowadays (I have it since the 90s and lost a bit of interest). I got it filled of expansions and I'm having a blast with the rich deep bass, supernice synth strings, etc. It's a remarkable little box that's very lovable. Custom sounds are a must since the presets sound very dated, but if you start making your own sounds, this machine will blow you away.
I use my JV1080 all the time to make electronic music, specifically the ambient pads lend themselves well to side chain compression, I also use external midi sequencers which allow me to have more options in how use patches that might otherwise sound "dated". The orchestra hits are fun as well.
Apologies. I don’t remember leaving that comment, or why I would say that. Must be meant for another video.
you saved me alot of time thanks for sharing mate
Thanks to you, I now know it has much more power and usable features than I imagined. I happened to pick up a very clean one a few years ago. It's collected dust..until now. (Integra 7 too)
Have fun with it!
Thanks for your great video.
I did already some comparison videos and some sound examples.
Then I sold it, together with my JV-2080 and 1010 to buy me the XV-5080.
As always....you miss something when you don't have it anymore.
So...bought one yesterday for 150€. Happy to have the JV-1080 back in my setup :D
Whilst I didn’t sell my JV1080, it has been abandoned for a while and now it is like rediscovering an old friend!
This is by far my favorite Synthesizer and Plugin. It's been in almost every one of my beats for a year now. Trying out a new roland called Zenology and its pretty good too
I typically like to use 80s and 90s synths and sample libraries on my music along with some modern VSTs like Absynth, Stylus RMX, QL Symphonic Orchestra, etc. I would also use the expansion boards that are compatible with the Roland JV-1080.
I have a synthesizer that has the exact same sounds as this machine. The Roland XV 88. During my teen years I often use this for just about everything with the occasional Yamaha TX81Z. As always, especially since 2018, I use that machine primarily for Rhodes or grand piano sounds.
I enjoy the 1080 today. I use it often. No commentary on it sounding old or outdated. I’ll often soften some sounds by layering a basic big analog type pad behind it. Analog Soft pad (korg wavestation) namely. I’ll take the patch heavenals or d50 stack, assign their velocity minimum to 75 and put either of them behind a piano. This way the harder notes have a bell like accent, almost like a sparkle. I also like to use strings with this. I also use the mentioned wavestation, the xv5080, d50 and jd800.
Great idea. I'm going to try this one day❤
I have a JV 1080 and a JV 2080 (with most of the expansion slots filled). Still love the strings sounds on both of them and the Orchestral Expansion cards sound just as good today as they did when I first used them.
For some reason the expansion slots seem to have given up working, along with the PCM card slot. Very weird
@@StephenTallamyMusic i had the same issue the card contacts can gum up especially in with humidity, a clean up with deoxit fixed the problem. If that fails then a factory reset may help
I have one of the successors to this module, the Fantom-XR which I love indeed. I’ve tried many, many times to get Logic to play nicely with it but haven’t had much luck.
Lately it’s been looking at me and feeling rather neglected so I’d like to try and give it a new lease of life.
Just hearing some of the sounds in this video has made me want to try again.
Thank you for this.
Definitely give it a go! It was lots of fun getting the JV1080 up and running properly again
The XR was one of my first hardware modules after the EMU stuff. I recently cranked it up. Use midi cables in and out instead of the old USB driver. Also works with the editor still via midi.
I wouldn't consider the Fantom-XR to be a successer. It's infact a completely different set of sounds. There's maybe only 2 percent of XV sounds in there. The Integra-7 is actually the successer that has that has the JV/XV engine. I own both the Fantom-XR and Integra-7. There are many sounds in the Fantom-XR that I still use that aren't in the Integra-7. The Integra-7 is really a re-issued XV-5080 module.
I use it for house music, awesome gear. Mine have the done solaris sounds patch ♥️
Don Solaris is the man for Roland JV stuff!
Great video!
Thanks for watching
My first pro gear back in the 90’s, and still today love to edit with free windows editor. It’s sound better than my XV5050, and Roland cloud 1080 too.
Yeh it seems like the original JV1080 has the most desirable character, despite the others having the same source PCM and architecture
It's a very useful instrument. I use mine all the time. It takes 4 expansion boards. Nice nice instrument.
Sounds great, actually one of the easier ROMplers to program once you spend a little time with it and get a feel for the architecture.
I bought my JV-1080 around 2010 so it was considered "outdated" even then but I have always loved
it's sound after hearing it on many recordings. I also have 3 SRJV expansion boards. There's still room for
both hardware and software.
It's odd isn't it? I can never quite get my head around sounds going "out of date". OK, some go out of flavour / favour, but a good sounding piano is a good sounding piano regardless. Perhaps I look at ot all a bit too simply, but... :-)
@@MatusFinchus no you're not thinking simple at all, the problem with most musos is that they're obsessed with new gear thinking that's the latest sounds but mostly just rehashed patches and copies of popular synths from the past, such is the problem with consumerism and gear s@%!$. Imo the best way to use the 1080 is to process the sounds at mastering or pre/post production with good eq and effects, I use mine with various rack effects and pedals sounds as "modern" as anyone could think
@@MatusFinchus I now also have a Roland U-220 and an E-MU Proteus/2, so now I have 3 rack modules.
@@MatusFinchus I'm with you, how can a sound be out dated? If it sounds good and it works in the song, so be it.
@@DanHomeAtLast agreed most modern synths are mimicking the old stuff, DX7, D50 and M1.
This is a great video! There's lots of helpful tips in here. I'm going to try it out with my Roland XP-30, which is the keyboard version of the JV-1080. I'll let you know what works.
I also have XP-30 with JV-1080. I use it mainly for R&B music, some great patches.
@@e-maestro Nice! I tried the JV-XP editor app on my Mac but it was pretty buggy. I couldn't get it to see any of my other banks or cards, just the general midi ones.
cloud 1080 is fantastic - I love it
Just got my 1080 with 4 expansion boards..thanks for the info sir!! Cheers
Have fun!
@@StephenTallamyMusic working out the controls LOL good thing that Jv Xp is there, a great tool. Im using a GI-10 and GK-2A with JV1080
Just got myself an XV-5080 last month and an SRX-06 Complete Orchestra card (comes with SR-JV80 Orchestra, Orchestra 2, Voices and I think some select sessions and pianos sounds). Just enjoying having yhe sounds of my childhood at my finger tips. The potential is amazing though. The synth engine is pretty fun to work with. Just glad the 5080 has a bigger display!,
Yeah that display can make a huge difference!
Great Job Sir
Thanks for watching Richard!
I had one of these back in about 1998 and loved it. I was that sad I sold it, that I just ordered one again for £240 and it's being delivered tomorrow. What a great bit of kit this was and indeed, still is. Thanks for the great video. :)
Nice one! Hope it bring back good memories on it’s return. Definitely have a look at the patch packs from LFO Store and Don Solaris.
@@StephenTallamyMusic Thanks! I shall indeed check those out. 👍
Out of interest, how much did it set you back in 1998??
@@lewisgibbs6861 I *think* it was around £899. Although my memory is a bit hazy on that now. Hehe.
@@lewisgibbs6861 I would have to go hunting for the manual and see if I kept the invoice in it. Certainly a lot more than £240!
Heavily used in the game soundtrack for Clive N Wrench coming out this year. Notably the 'Whistlevox' patch, which is extremely recognisable. However, I have never investigated the enormous engine behind the sounds, like here. Amazing.
So much good content many thanks Steve... if ever in my neck of the woods i owe you a pint ....lol
I mean if your neck of the woods has beer… how do I get there?
Still loving my JD800
An incredible synth
Hello mate, I've just been gifted one of these and completely forgot you had made this video! Might be picking your brain when it arrives!
Nice! Definitely worth trying out the editor with it to get familiar with how the synth engine works. And I can certainly recommend some of the modern patches you can get for it
I still using my almost fully expanded JV-2080, due to some specific patches (for example "temple of JV" in "Look at Sky"). Despite that I'm using also VSTs, still have somehow soft spot for HW rack modules. Paradox is, that I like to control them via editors like a VSTs, but same time I like idea, that they are physical machines with they own unique sound character, due to different D/As.
Plus no latency! That's the key I think.
researching this box because i want to buy one 2nd hand - 150.- what a steal for this machine
Great video and just what I need for my JV-2080 in Logic, would love to see your thoughts on the JV-2080 and how it compares to the 1080. I must admit i do find the external midi integration in Logic very clunky compared to something like Sonar formely cakewalk, which makes external midi so easy to work with particularly when wanting to switch a midi track from a software instrument to external unless I am missing a trick?
If you want to read the ultimate guide to all JV, JD and XP instruments I recommend Don Solaris’s guide www.donsolaris.com/?p=404
Hi I have watched this presentation a couple of times now and also your review of the Proteus 2000 . I became a little bit inspired really so thanks for that 👏👏......I have been routing through the crates in my attic , a virtual Aladdins cave of curated musical technology (and several miles of wires) dating from 1982 to about 10 years ago. So far I have excavated my JV 8080, the original Proteus , the Proteus 2000 and the Akai s1100 sampler (18 mb 🧐). I also retrieved both versions of the enigmatic Dark Star Synthesizer and a Korg M1R rack mount .
So far the JV has convinced me to find a place for it in my current studio space ..like wise temporarily the S1100 so I can review the boxes and boxes of samples...I may keep it as a studio ornament.
I’m currently studying how to create and script libraries in Kontakt and it appeals me to borrow from the JV and perhaps some of the other long forgotten instruments from the attic. If the Kontakt collection is any good I will submit it to Pianobook and also attempt Decent sampler and Exs24 versions.
The plan is to now to clear the attic by Xmas ...any working items I don’t want, I will sell in an online auction and donate the takings to the artists charity supported through Piano book.
All the best Limbic. 🙏🙏🏿👍🎩🦄
Amazing stuff. Can’t wait to hear the results! The Korg M1 was the workstation I dreamed of but never bought so I have been tempted to find a M1R. Enjoy rediscovering these synths!
@@StephenTallamyMusic Stephen you can have mine for a tenor donated to the artists fund via pianobook. I will check it will power up today and advise, might need new battery.
@@Limbiclesion wow! I would be more than happy to donate.
I have a JV90 and still love many of the sounds. I wish there was a better way to integrate the sounds into my DAW other than as Audio. Any guidance or help appreciated.
I have the slightly older JV-80 and it sounds very well. It has room for only a single expansion board (I have the 01 Pop board, but the 04 vintage synths would be a nice upgrade). The synth engine is really deep, but not as convenient to program without editor software. My biggest gripe is that there is only a single stereo out, so proper multi-track recording has to be done one track at a time, so you might as well remain in patch mode.
Bought a 2080 a couple of years ago and it's definitely sticking around. My favorite patch is Warm Strings on the Orchestra card.
I went with the most modern interpretation of the Roland rack mount synth / sound module. The Integra-7. It has all the SRX cards built in plus Roland’s Super Natural engine. It’s not 100% accurate to the original 1080 but it’s close enough to get the job done. The 1080 was and still is a milestone instrument.
I owned 2 fully expended JV1080s and a fully expended XV3080. I sold them and all the expansion cards separately but have very fond music production memories between 1997 and 2007.
I was tempted to sell mine a few years ago but I’m glad I held onto it. I used it recently in two tracks that have been accepted into a production library!
@@StephenTallamyMusic in a way. I regretted selling all my synths back in the day but the proceeds were used for a house deposit and I've now got way more flexibility and a much more compact set up with my imac running Logic and Protools stuffed full of third party plug ins. I'll soon be ditching Protools because of Avid's corporate greed with their rip off subscription service that isn't a service!
Thank you SO much for making this video! I used to make EVERYTHING with this little guy! (Back in '94, '95 '96) Have pulled it out of storage now that I'm make a good deal of Retro and Synthwave... Going to have some good times with this editor! Thanks for sharing the links - extremely helpful!!! 🎹🎶
Very cool... I have the JV-2080 in the loft so I guess I know what I’m doing tomorrow
Awesome! It’s been great fun playing with it again and the JV-XP Editor plus modern patches have really inspired me.
I’ve been listening to a lot of samples of the JV-880 JD-990 and JV-1080 - All amazing really can’t decide which one to get
Get them all? 😀
Now look what you've made me do. I've just ordered a JV2080.
Ha whoops sorry Barry. Hope you have fun with it!
@@StephenTallamyMusic I am sure I will have no regrets. I should have bought one years ago. I spent a few years with a Turtle Beach Pinnacle with the Yamaha XV50XG expansion. Anyone remember this ?
This is wonderful information. Thank you Stephen for sharing. I too had forgotten about Logic's midi environment window. I'm wondering if there are modern librarians (as we called them back in the day) that connect to the device and collect all the presets via sysEx? And if there would be away to dump that into logic's midi environment? I'm trying to save the step of building the spreadsheet : ). I'm looking a the JV1080 and also the Korg M3r ... I would want to do the same for both it that type of data transfer is still a thing.
Thanks for watching. It seems like sysex is a dying art and certainly the midi environment seems neglected of late! I tend to get my patch names from sources online.
I bought 2 of them because Tomb Raider 1-3 were composed with 2x JV-1080s :)
Well, today one may decide on whether buying a piece of hardware (circuit has aged) or buying the Roland Cloud Version. I have a Roland XV-5050 but if I wouldn't need it for my SRX-05 and SRX-08 I would choose the software.
Lovely video thanks!! !! I have a question ::
I have a JV-1080 and the performance mode gets overwhelmed with very few midi messages (with Logic). When people used to compose with 16 channels, did they just only do volume and modulation automation? Any pitch bend messages and it gets overwhelmed (certain instruments not sounding and ruining the arrangement).....
as a little followup -- i just booted it up again to see if i missed something from before. but literally when there's only 2 channels playing (each monophonic and not very fast) it misses notes. I think this is something wrong with my version of Logic? anybody have experience?
I have the xp30 which I layer with my ESQ1 and Emu Morpheus. Is sounds like magic
Bought my XV 3080 new back in 2000 with some SRX cards. Would never sell it.
It’s Omnisphere in a box. I find I’m using it more these days than my Super Jupiter and Super JX modules (edit: and Komplete 13 CE).. Funnily enough the 04 vintage synths expansion goes for about the same price as the synth itself these days. I think it’s aged better than the far more expensive JD-990. Haven’t been able to try JV-XP Editor yet as I wasn’t aware it existed until now, but the page isn’t working currently. Same link you have here and on gearspace. The Don Solaris patches are pretty good too.
I lot of the Omnisphere sounds came from quite a bit of Roland vintage hardware esp the JD-990 as the building block. I think the Integra-7 is more closer to the Omnisphere equivalent given that its still in production today. It combines most of all of Roland's history in one sound module. It has every sound of the JV/XV series plus all 12 SRX Expansion sounds onboard, plus the modern Super Natural Jupiter 80 sounds, and many patches from the Jupiter and JD-990. That's over 6000 sounds in one box!
Quite a helpful video, thank you.
By the way, I own a JV1010 and have just tried out the JV-XP editor, works great except when I sync the patch, the cut off time is very short, so very patch is staccato style, but when I turn the editor off, it reverts back to normal obviously. Do you know how to get rid of this?
I’ve seen that issue on macOS and I’m not entirely sure what the fix is!
Could you please run through how to set up the JVXP controller, I can't get it to work and based on your video we are running similar setups.
The Juno-DS has an engine very much like that and like nobody highlights it in reviews, I was pleasantly surprised to see how deep the control was behind the surface level rompler features I bought it for.
It’s a great part of Roland’s approach to blending sampling and synths!
Pretty much every Roland PCM-based synth engine since the LA-synthesis of the D-50 is set up in the same general way - Each "tone" is effectively its own synth, with patches being created by layering the different tones. That's the part where a lot of people get confused with Roland synths in general - thinking they are programming a "single" synth when creating a patch, when they are really programming several at the same time. Once you get your head around that it can really unlock the power of these synths, even the earlier models like the JV or D-Series.
After using roland cloud jv1080 vst guess what :D i own hardware one now.... the sound and response of hardware is far beyond my expectations... lots of patch rocks!!!
It is incredible that it still holds so much inspiration!
The Roland JV-1080 and JV-2080 was the staple sound module of 90s R&B records from Brandy & Monica - The Boy is Mine hence the Harp patch, to Dru Hill, to Whitney Houston, to Mariah Carey to Destiny Child and so on. I own the the Roland Integra-7 the successor of the JV-1080, JV-2080 and XV-5080. In fact it has every sound of all of those modules combined including some sounds form the JD-990. Its basically a modern XX-5080 plus Jupiter 80 in one rack mount unit. It was once that the JV-1080 was the longest running synth in Roland's history that sold millions and millions of those units for over 7 years in production literally in every studio around the world. Now the Integra-7 takes the lead as the longest running synthesizer sound module in Roland's history that's still in production today that came out in 2012.
A legendary synth that lives on!
Great box still… anyone know what presets Cheiron used on this in the late 90’s early 2000’s for the boy band era?
I was pleasantly surprised to find one in my 505 groovebox
Nice! I didn’t know that was available
I love my 1080, still very relevant today. Worth noting that you were saying patch instead of tone, each patch is made up of four tones. For each tone, you’ve got two lfo’s and three envelopes. That’s a total of 8 lfo’s and 12 envelopes. The only way to get that many on an analog synth would be a modular one but it would be huge, would cost so much and would only be monophonic, and no sample based sounds. so the JV really is super - super versatile and powerful
Eh idk, I can think of a fairly simple 6-7u setup that could at the very least do that w 2-4 voice polyphony. Not as cheap or quite as versatile as a 1080 but not insanely large or expensive and definitely more ~experimental~
There are so many modules these days that have 8 LFOs or 4 envelopes or whatever modulation you need in few HP. Same w VCAs
@@faycarsons How many can use any PCM sample as a sound source, and twist and wrap that sample in near-endless ways?
That's the magic of not only the Roland PCM synths, but also the ones from Yamaha and Korg, the Motif-series and the M1 descendants - the possibilities that open up with tens of thousands of PCM samples + a full synth engine to work with...
Hi, thanks so much for this video! Is the JX-VP Editor free for mac?
Yes, it is!
I have a 1010 and use it with a digitakt and some newer synths (deepmind12d, modwave) and some (semi) modular. Combi with digitakt is great!
Nice combinations - bet that sounds great!
hey what about the JV 990 vs this one ? ive heard it sounds better just less sound palette
I've never played one before but I think the reason why Roland calls the amp and filter section "TVA" and "TVF" is because velocity and keyboard tracking can be used to modulate to attack and release stages of the envelopes. Although I can't confirm.
Nice Deep dive! I might pick up one of these - a very reasonably priced synth now a days!
I love to add these add these old digi sounds (I still love my Korg M1) from their 14 -16 converters behind the pristine multi-sampled 144k orchestral sets. The crap converters and highly compressed sound sets add a quite bit - in the case of the M1 - to the low end. Is better because it is worse!
I nearly broke into a sweat when you started patch editing DX7 style. I have been on a crusade to (and by crusade I mean screaming at my computer) to get Apple to at least ass the very rudimentary bank and patch selection the MIDI track already has. Managing two different tracks seems redundant this day and age. This was solved 30 years ago - it was a doddle to copy a bit of sysex to the head of the track and done!
But I'm showing my age now!
Yeh - the whole midi environment really has lost favour to the virtual synth/sampler world. Perhaps the interest in modular synths may drive things back a little more towards midi/CV.
@@StephenTallamyMusic Testing the Editor/Librarian from @SoundQuestInc is on my list of nerdy things to do. Logic's MIDI environment is very powerful for some things and absurdly inadequate for others. While I cobbled together a script to change patches with the MIDI Processor Plugin I can not get it to change banks.
@@Voxrobot let me know how the nerding goes!
I cheated, got an XV-5080 during lockdown which does most of this but also holds 8 cards (4 SR-JV80 and 4 SRX) and loaded it up with what I could find. Sounds wonderful.
An excellent lockdown purchase!
Hi Stephen. Thanks for the upload. I'm glad that my old JV1080 will be reborn again. :) . I've downloaded the JV-XP Editor but it remains offline? Any idea why this is? Thanks again.
I've only been using it for a little while but once I use the midi settings button to set Input and Output it seemed OK. Clicking the on the word "Offline" can sometimes force it to "Online"
@@StephenTallamyMusic Thanks for the reply Stephen. I'll play with it some more to see if I can get it to go online. It all seems to work though considering I don't know what I'm doing with the editor yet. ;)
Yes, we had a thing called patch editors for these synths decades ago. Opcode on the Mac was the king. Great editors. Then Gibson bought Opcode and promptly killed off the company. But the software editors are still available for free download and old Macs can be had for only a few dollars.
I personally don't store my custom patches inside the unit. I use the preset
patches as a base to create custom patches just by changing the waveforms
and tweaking a few other parameters. I write all my custom parameters on paper,
what patch I used and the waveforms. I do the same thing with my Emu Proteus 2
because I don't want to overwrite any of the presets.
How do you link up the jv1080 to just the editor?
Nice|! Will you post a similar video about your Proteus module? Keep up the good work!
It’s in my list to dive into it sometime
@@StephenTallamyMusic nice! thanks
Your wish is my command th-cam.com/video/2b8x7PTt_fE/w-d-xo.html
@@StephenTallamyMusic wow! i'm going to check it right away! thanks a lot!
I couldn't for the life of me get that editor to work out have me fits for months, could anyone explain the set up? I have the midi in show up in the program and midi channel set to either ch1 or omni but no sounds or changes in the 1080!
2080 & 3080 here, both full of cards. love them. question- why does your p2k say "custom" on it?
Basically it was a unit sold where you could pick the ROMs you wanted in it. Given I had a JV1080 at the time I chose not to get the composer ROM but I’ve subsequently added that ROM to make it basically the same as the standard P2K plus extended ROMs.
I did not know that- I've never seen another one, & I go way way back with this chassis. my oldest is an audity 2k, & when I nagged emu for the second soundset, they had to burn one for me on the same sort of flash SIMM, more or less, as the blanks I later bought to authour stuff for my other proteus stuff- two keyboards, an XL7 & (I think) ten various of the modules, loads of the ROMs. so I bought a 2080 & then a 3080 & filled them both up, looking to challenge myself with a different sound design workflow. I have never really got comfortable with them, though sonically they're lovely, of course. but your video & the editor have changed all that- thanks!
I remember when trance producers used the Roland JV1080 a lot back in the day.
Still cool today like a lot of the old vintage gear.
Yeah lots of dance, trance and electronic music has this plus the Korg M1!
@@StephenTallamyMusic Just been playing with the Korg M1 and it has some really good sounds just like the Roland D50.
@@darrenhirst9900 nice one. Did you check out my video on it?
@@StephenTallamyMusic I watched a lot of your videos.
All good good videos.
@@darrenhirst9900 great stuff … glad you enjoyed!
are you using the jv-xp editor with a mac? i always get notes that are doubled which makes the notes short and i cannot edit while the part i playing is highlighted. if you are which i think you are how is this not happening to you. several people are saying the same with the problem with the editor and mac
Hi, I have the JV1080 and the downloaded JV-XP Editor for Roland JV1080 I'm using Midiface 16x16!! But the editor keeps saying offline all the time and I cannot change the sound on JV1080
using the software. Any help would be great guys.
Freaking A, this is what I live for
thanks for this.. I use the The keyboard version (The xp80)..The one EFx in performance mode is a bummer but I always seem to work around it. maybe overdub sometimes. Im thinking of getting a mpc one to sequence it in future as I want to get away from DAWS
Yup! I use my MPC Live to sequence my beloved JV-1010. It works well!
It beggars belief that Roland didn't simply bite the bullet and add 3 insert fx and 8 x expansion into the XP80 that has the large LCD and hardware.
@@madness8556 very true..
@@bradleylinemihler I would have bought an XP80 if it was a true keyboard workstation version of the JV2080 with 3 x insert fx and 8 x expansion slots. I bought a Korg Trinity Plus and didn't look back.
Good Choice !
Hey guys, anyone recommend a 61 key controller to use with these things? I'm not much of a tweaker, I just want one that has program buttons that can facilitate patch changes on the JV, but preferably also that has a USB connection for my Mac for non-JV situations. Thanks!
It is still great 👍
It certainly is!
One of these days I'll find a JD or XV module on a deal i can afford. Been wanting one for about 30 years.
Fingers crossed. There are deals to be had if you keep watching eBay etc
The problem with these samples is they all cut out at around 12 kHz. A few surpass that, but the effect of stacking 1080 2080 3080 5050 5080 orchestral patches (say) is that the ear doesn't hear anything in the frequency spectrum above the limit. As a result the sounds tend to mush together. They no longer have a distinct formant in the upper frequencies. And yeah, I owned 3 XV3080.
JV1080 users, a few questions;
1. Are the 128 User Banks the only sounds that can be altered/overwritten? Or can expansion cards be overwritten also?
2. Is this editor the best freeware editor available?
3. I have a Midi Sequencer (Squarp Pyramid) between my DAW and my JV1080. Will I have to connect directly from Interface to JV to send and receive sysex?
1. You can alter the user banks and also insert a data card into the front to save more. Expansion cards can’t be overwritten but you can create user banks from their sounds.
2. It’s the best free one I’ve found!
3. I don’t really know much about these devices. Hopefully they pass through all Midi including sysex
Which do you think sounds better the External Version of the 1080 or the Vst plug-ins? Cause I would get the plug ins but since nobody has the plugins for the Vintage Keys, The Sound Super Set, 60s & 70s & the Session card is probably better getting the actual hardware
I think they will both sound good. There will be some sonic differences (people often say the external units sound warmer) but it’s really a personal taste and workflow question
I have both 1080's., the rack-mount sounds
significantly more realistic. *It's quite* *noticably more thicker, Spatial (3D).*