super simple change because it was in the last god damn game: Let us earn dragon crystals in Kombat League through rank so we can earn the costumes we want to buy
@brianwaterman9154 honestly this doesnt really matter. I personally agree that players should be able to earn everything instead of just swiping mommys credit card, but as long as the microtransactions dont directly affect the gameplay then its a negligable part of the game.
Imo, if they nerf the Kameos; Sonya should be the baseline of where everyone else is. She gives you good projectiles, aerial extensions, ring charge, and the leg grab for a combo extender. She ain't broke either, she's just solid.
@@christianhenry4173 Janet is one of the most used Kameos in the game, so your objectively wrong. SonicFox has gone on record saying Jax is cheap multiple times. If he's disrupting both the opponents defense and yours, you ain't doing something right.
That’s crazy bc I genuinely really like the gameplay. The biggest issues for me are how stale the top tier characters get and how much content has been missing since launch
Play different character combos. I think this game is way more interesting than 11 and just as good a mkx. I main off "Meta" kameos (Jax and Sektor) and the characters I play with them aren't as good on paper compared to the "top" kameos for those characters. I play Nitara Sektor, Geras Sektor, Baraka Jax, and Kung Lao Jax.
It is facts, I joined the scene as a casual with MKX and how they were promoting the scene/tournaments at the time. I am from South Africa. Actually the FGC Africa (for NRS games) was created like that.
Tweedy, I heavily disagree with nerfing kameos into the dirt. Devs need to appeal to the highest level and competitive circuit of their game, which means keeping the core mechanics strong- in this game, those are kameos. That said, the casual audience is important too. The ideal solution is to have the devs create a solo (no kameo) fighting mode. Casual players mostly LOVED the “kameo” system in MK11’s towers, so I don’t believe they hate kameos- I just think they hate being FORCED to use kameos. Edit: I agree with Fatal 8 being the biggest boom for the scene. That’s what got me competing too.
Most characters are heavily gimped versions of previous iterations of the characters, because of kameos. They would need to heavily tweak or even rework most of the roster and that's not happening. If they were to just add a "no kameos" mode as it is the game will just be even bare-bones version of MK11.
@@SlCKNESS_ I will take just the bare-bones version without Kameos. I play MK11 more than MK 1 because of it. As a casual MK gamer. Kameo's suck. MK has never been an assist game, and you should not need to rely on them to carry your main character. Also, I do not have time to spend hours learning a character like Homelander or any of the other complex characters along with all the crap the kameo does to make them extend combos, etc.. So they need something like Modern controls, where you can learn a character in a short amount of time and then take them online and be somewhat decent. This is appealing to the casual audience Like SF6. My take is this game was probably first designed to be the next Injustice, but things fell through so they made it the next MK game. Super rushed when it was first released and def got ripped off paying $100 for it. The customization also sucks real bad in this game. I respect MK11 a whole lot more, after this one. I will not be playing this game anymore and hope MK 2 goes back to 1 V 1 with 0 Kameos. If this is their direction for the foreseable future then I will no longer be playing MK. Pretty sad to say as this was one of the franchises I grew up with. Right now there is so many better titles out there (Street Fighter 6, Tekken 8, Multiverses). Plus, with new games on the horizon like Fatal Fury City of Wolves, this game is going to die in no time. The pro's will not even be able to save it.
@@EZUP4704 100% on par here. I've been playing MK since the first game in the early 90s. Mortal Kombat has NEVER been an assist game like you said. This doesn't even feel like MK anymore, it does feel like Injustice with MK characters imported in. It's not dark enough for MK either. It feels very...fruity.
Kameos were such a waste. Could've been fully fledged characters instead. Going back to the basics of MK9 with no variations in this entry was a big step in the right direction, but turning this into yet another assist fighter was a huge mistake.
I love the kameo system. They give combo variety to the game. But assist games are hard to balance because if a team is broken, do you nerf the kameo or the base character?
Make the kameo cool down more even balanced between the kameos or make it a meter where you have to build it up. I feel a timer is what throws a lot of players off and is out of control of the players when they can decide what will happen at a specific time but they can control what they do themselves
If it were up to me, I'd only touch the kameo recharge time. So many folks bellyached about MK11's regenerating meter, but they abuse kameos in MK1 with zero shame 😂
@@deadliftdevotion15 they wouldn’t be the same bc some kameos launchers work differently. Some let you jump cancel and some don’t which it turns gives diff combo routes. Several kameos rn don’t even have launchers so it wouldn’t make them the same lol
@@DrewDaJuiceman there’s practically like 3 options you’re suggesting. Ambush combo extender, summon launcher on ground or summon launcher that you can jump cancel. Then the other kameo moves would be just a negative summon. So there would only be 3 types of kameos and they all just add some combo damage so they’re all practically the same besides meterless launcher exists
@@censurad_not really lmao you shouldn’t need variations to spice up your own gameplay. You can easily come up with combos that are the fun if all the specials are available rather than being locked to a certain moveset like how they did in mkx/11
Kameos can work just fine, but they need tutorials for every single character. Maybe the tutorials can even include two or three suggestions for each characters best cameos
I'm a casual player and I like the Kameo system. Much more than the variation system (which is what it is). Kameo's allow for variety of gameplay while letting characters keep a majority of their signature moves instead of being a MK repeat.
buff ideas, spread the word Havoc: He needs at least five new attack strings, he needs his legacy move that titan havoc has were he takes off his head and rolls it but its a mid, has the same affect as reptiles acid ball, and also hits mid exploding on contact. he also needs another one of his legacy moves that again titan havoc has where he bends his hole body for a low projectile and the amp of that can be a knock down allowing for combo extentions for cameos like scorpion Sub-zero: he needs his attack strings made slightly faster except for his overhead, he also needs 1 or 2 new attack string launchers, both his regular and amp iceball needs to be faster to not only be able to combo with it off of normal attack strings but in juggle combos too. He should have the ability to throw his ice clone, i also think he should have his ice burst special back with the same proporties as mkx to compliment his ice clone(but just does not send you that far away). lastly he needs some of his damage scailing off ground freeze. Scorpion: should be buffed by making his amp ground tp a launcher again and make the cancel built in to both his regular and amp tp. buff the amp hellfire move by removing the damage over time and making it function like how it does in mkx allowing him to combo after hitting it. he needs new strings some mix ups(i personally want his mkx overhead back). some moves need to be sped up Quan shi: needs his mind control move from mkx back, and make half his attack strings faster. and finally his low tentacle needs to be one bar Raiden: change raiden's b2 back to the mkx launcher but make it as slow as sub'z b2. give him back his vicinity blast move back with the same properties as mkx. Give him back his mkx amp lightning projectile back for combo extentions but have his regular fully charged move have the same proportys as the amp. he also needs to be buffed by making his amp electrocute special launch no matter how many bars he uses liu kang: for starters nerf his f4 one button pressure but give him his 113 mkx launcher back along with maybe 2 or 3 more new attack strings to make up for his pressure and to make it less braindead. make his low fireball slightly faster, change his air fireball to the mkx fireball and the amp the one we have now. give him back his mk 11 dragon parry, and finally make his fatal blow start up 2 hits but the first one restands kung lao: nerf tf out of his wake up special by making it unsafe af on block. give him back his mkx or 9 spin back but have it have work the same as mk11 so he can use it more than two times in a combo. swap his dive kick now for a mix between his mkx or 9 dive kick. he needs his mkx tp, and his low hat back, but nerf his mix up buttion's he has now by making the overhead follow up slightly slower. give him his mk11 21212 attack string and his mkx 44 launcher attack string back. and also he needs his hat spin. Nitara: buff her by making her command dash like homelander so for instance all of her normal attack strings that leaves her in the air cost no bar anymore to command dash and it cost no bar when she is in the air command dashing for combos but the next one after that does. and also make fer overhead that leaver her in the air slightly faster. she should also be able plus after hitting her bf2 special allowing her to cameo combo after it. lastly give her back her legacy projectile move back. Reiko: give him his invasion boss special move, the one is like jades dead butterfly move from mk11 but it launches and he uses his spear(this is already in the game files btw). give this guy at least 1 more special move that involes his knife that's on his person but he never uses for some reason. he needs like 5 new normal attack stings involving his knife and his spear, maybe 2 of them be launchers. smoke: give him his smoke cloud move back from mk9, along having it hit low but have the same start up as the one he got now. make his command dash special cancelable anywhere instead of just near yr opponent. also another command dash sending him backwards but the max distance is half screen but he can cancel it at any time during that animation too. and lastly make it easyer to do ground combos after his amp db 4 special. Reptile: give him his acid pool amp special move back but make the amp the special and make the amp of that last longer along with his claw swipe move from mk x. give him 3 to 4 attack stings and have at least one be a launcher and at least 2 be for mixup followups. and lastly allow him to move after doing his forceball just a tad bit more almost like how mkx was but just not as broken Li mei: 4 or 5 new attack strings, 2 a launchers 1 plus frame one, the rest strings into lows. she needs a new special that let's you command detonate her lantern with one fast motion, fast enuf to do it mid combo. change her base air overhead special hit reaction on airborne opponents, instead of a knockdown it leaves li mei grounded and the opponent in the air allowing for combos like how she could in 3d mk games. also give her back her overhead command special and the amp allow for ground combos. and lastly allow her to be able to combo with one amp projectile grounded and in the air. y'all stay tune i got more heat for every character
I always said they need a mode that alternates special types of games every week like a no cameo mode one week or 50 second rounds or a beginning character mode where you have to have no games played up to 100 or fight those creative mix characters on very hard and out skins in the mode every week
At this point nobody is not going to be happy with no MK games. People complain to much about it. NRS try to do something new Something different people complain. The games does feel incomplete. I wish there was more for us to do. But I love playing this game and love the kameos. People can Either deal with it or you don't.
I actually thought of the special cancel into special before they did it for Johnny and I never said a word because I thought it was way too strong but it's here so after that I think anything can happen at this point. I mean, they already did Time travel and we're still getting different ideas and strategies for the game. I'm starting to think their willingness to try new things is wide open right now
Im not a casual and I honestly hope kameos don’t return for MK2, I like the idea of trying something new and expanding the roster in different ways, but I feel like they can have too much of a say in certain matchups and it takes away from the playable characters. That, or just nerf them hard for the next game.
I love videos like this. Instead of just bashing and attacking the game. You're giving ideas that can have a productive change that can impact the game in a better direction. I love mk1 but these changes would really help spice the game up. Less nerfs to the main characters and just buff the characters that struggle. And not the baby stuff but like you said " go hammmm." Sub has been melting since day one... He needs BUFFS. So does scorpion, Havik and many more... I want all the characters to shine. More modes would really help it out. I want the tag back. I would love itttt ❤️❤️❤️. Thank you tweedy
I feel like kameos was an attempt to satisfy the fans without fully committing to a full mk9 style tag system. Fans wanted tag along with assists but they were lazy and just went the assist only route
Imo the biggest issue with kameos is the unsafe into ambush shit. That's the type of stuff that makes kameos unappealing to casuals because to them it's too frustrating to deal with, especially when you get into the frame data/jailing shit
Yes being aggressive during your opponents cooldowns is way too daunting imo. Remove kameos so you can lose neutral and change what you complain about tbh
@geraldjohnson8814 obviously theres a solution. The problem is that CASUAL players dont want to worry about managing not only their super and kameo meters, but also their oponents super and kameo meters. People forget that most tweedy (and most other mk creators) viewers arent casual players. We might not be pros in the competetive scene, but were clearly more into the game than the average player.
Tweedy, I'm a hella casual, and I like the kameo system. However, I do agree with you about the Kano knives, Goro up-punch, etc. Basically, nothing is ever punishable with those moves.
GIVE SMOKE A DAM MID, HIS SMOKE BOMBS BACK, MAKE 1,2, 3+1 a COMMAND GRAB, OR keep him ow he is but let me spend meter to make the cancels plus AND/OR just make vicious vapors minus 5-7 range so i dont get full comboed for lag or miss inputs also sometimes i get clipped by projectiles that are obviously behind me
Tweedy normally I agree with the things you say but I completely disagree with your idea of nerfing kameos to the ground. Kameos are what make the game so interesting and if anything NRS needs to focus on balancing them not nerfing all of them as a whole. If we really want to appeal to the casual player base who do not like kameos then the most logical option is to make a no kameo game mode (that also means a no kameo kombat league option). Like thinking about it, it makes so much sense. Not only does it appeal for the casuals, it's a new mode with a new meta to explore. And loads of people were asking for it when the trailers first dropped like a year ago.
@@boblob3509 kind of disagree. Makes the game more intuitive. The right kameo can sometimes be a weakness to your opponent which makes your main character more fun to explorer new ways to play.
NRS will never do that. That's too much work that they are not willing to do. NRS would have to rebalance the entire roster and make new foward throw animations for every character. No way they are doing all that.
@@icebertz Yes a kameo change can help you against an opponent but often times that is not the case if their character/kameo synergy is busted beyond belief because kameos makes negative frames safe, lets you skip neutral by making unga bunga gap closers safe and makes zoners stupid to deal with. Add all that just from a kameo to a character's already good base kit where they are good enough to stand on their own then there is a problem
Personally i feel like people just got upset over a bunch of small issues. The core gameplay is pretty fun, and even when you lost, typically it doesnt sting so bad. Iunno, maybe this game is just my cup of tea
If you lose to a Tanya that does armour into Goro 24/7 in your face it doesn't sting so bad? 🤣 Or Lao? Or pre-nerfed Peacemaker into Egaly? Come on man there are so many cheap and unfun teams in the game.
Oh yeah people leave fighting games in droves over small minute issues all the time, totally not because the game as a whole is unbearably boring to most.
@@battlericky17 You're being condescending to prove your subjective point. Claiming people don't have "fun" because you assume they don't "hit the lab". Something tells me to not take this conversation seriously...
I feel like it’s a lot of small issues though. It feels like there’s a lot of content missing, even the core gameplay to me it feels like characters should have more moves, idk. I kind of liked MK11 though, not saying MK1 is bad per se but it could definitely be a lot more fun if NRS cared to add some more GOOD updates (stop nerfing characters and make more characters powerful and fun)
Make the blocking animations more like MK X, or MK Deception, or MK Armageddon. Where they catch the incoming punches with their forearms. While switching from arm to arm blocking with each arm individually, catching and slapping the incoming punches. Like in MKX. It makes it look more like the martial arts in the cut scenes and the actual movies.
True kameos seem strong. I think if they had a more balanced cool down players would appreciate it, it would allow them time to use their playable character more effectively and planned out. Or maybe make it have to build up like a meter
The 6 perfect kameos in this game is Sonya, Mavado, Darrius, Tremor, Janet and Cyrax Every kameo should be like them Combo extenders Setups tools Stuff being safe very expensive and not easy to put off The rest is buffings the characters to Johnny’s level Give faster mids to everyone (9f, 10f and 11f) Strong Gimmicks Great pressure tools A real good zonning tool to zonners
Imo, they shouldn´t nerf Kameos at all and instead just make a Casual Friendly mode... Kameoless Mode... If they nerf them, again we will have just the one best single summon kameo move for all characters
I don’t think they even have to nerf kameos so much. If they added a game mode where you play without kameos a lot of people would be happy. I love kameos but for people who haven’t played or don’t like team fighters I get how it would be annoying.
Instead of nerfing Kameos, just add an option in the setting to Turn On/Off the kameo system. That way you can satisfy both sides. As for the main cast, I rather they focus more on buffs to unleash every characters full potential instead of “balancing” them (aka make them boring) This game is meant to be crazy and fun. Let them loose!
This doesn't solve the problem at all because then multiplayer literally will not function correctly. Imagine some casual turns off kameos and picks havik or some kinda low tier character and gets matched up against a johnny khameleon. All they're gonna do is complain and play the game even less even tho they chose to handicap themselves. This game was built around the kameo system due to characters lacking in certain departments specifically for kameos to fill the gaps, I just don't see that working super well it would prolly only have to be in offline modes but then again that's literally just invasions lol
Kameos are not an add on. THEY ARE THE GAME. From breakers to intros to outros to the final boss arcade cinematic to the way every character has a gap in their moves that is covered by Kameos . They are the game. They'd have to completely rework the game from the ground up, which is pointless. Take the Kameos out of this game and it's a equally as hollow MK11
I don’t see balancing as making the characters more boring to play lmao, it just means you have to work harder for your win which I mean you should want to earn your wins anyway
Legacy is what MK needs. Between mk9-mk1, sub zero has had 16 different special moves, and non of them (outside iceball and slide) make into the next game. *Klone survived 1 game before it disappeared in mk11, and ground ice made it into mk11, but was banned*
i been a kasual since childhood and i hated the kameo system in the begenning but let me tell u something now i can't imagine this game without a kameo system . edit invasions mode let me puke
I would say im a kasual player but i find it annoying sektor and cyrax are going to base characters now but female. Wheres cetrion, jade, scarlet. In mk 7 i think i learnt how to do the combos in order to pass through to the single player mission mode, it was frustrating but at least im learning to become a better player. Also sometimes doing the special moves like blade spark with baraka and rain geyser i cant seem to perform the moves and i tried two different controls. Also allow easy brutalities instead of easy fatalities
I wish the story was more original and grounded focusing on Raiden and Kung Lao instead of becoming the whole multiverse thing. Especially now that Onaga was rumored but became a prefight line for Reiko, I would've preferred him be a main villain over "original timeline Shang Tsung"
Dam tweedy bringing back my childhood talking about motor kombat that mode was dope! Mk1 really needs a complete overhaul I agree with just about everything you said bro it’d be amazing
I disagree and I'm a casual. I think ambush assists add variety to the game and let people play with different playstyles. I feel like if assists are all the same, then they wouldn't matter at all. Maybe it is because I prefer games like DBFZ, summon assists to me just feel like variations in MK11. Maybe I am wrong, but these are my honest thoughts
True but he's talking about super casual who don't play online or any other fighting game besides mk. They hate the kameos and don't want to learn. All they care about is getting gear and unlocking more gear for whatever reason.
@@dec2567 You are totally right. I guess that's my frustration with MK, if you cater to these people the game becomes shit, but they have the loudest voices on the internet. No one differentiates between the different types of casuals, we are all put into the same box
If anyone knows nrs they don’t care about any of us unless it cause them to lose money . I wish people threw hope and the nostalgic memories because clearly nothing changed for you to still have hope .
Yeah 100% Agree that was what I was saying. They need to nerf all ambush Kameos into 45s cooldown meaning once or twice use per round. This will make neutral more important.
Such an elite game mode would be an online game mode with random character select, I’m sick of playing everyone on their mains when I enjoy learning everyone
Oh. That's interesting! Hmm yeah that would solve specific meta issues. Or maybe give them a limit to how many times they can choose a certain character. Like a token system
As a kasual player i agree 100%. The one thing that killed the game for me are the stupid ambush kameos such as goro up punch, kano knives, stryker grenades etc. So much block pressure is just stupid imo. The only ambushes that should excist are ofcourse the combo extensions and the setup ones such as sareena meter drain or ice armor. And then ofcourse the cast should be buffed. We even have less strings than we did in mk11 which is just crazy. Give more tools to all the characters so you can actually see different playstyles on the same character.
I agree. Kameo damage should be very minimal and all fighters should have full kits so they arent dependent on them and the kameos just serve as either a combo starter, extension, or ender. That would being a lot more life back into the game in my opinion. And like you were saying this would draw attntion to the weaker characters and they would get buffed
If you you had 2 Kameos instead of 1 and half the meter for each kameo, I think that would open a whole new door to giving the player options and see different match ups. Would stop people just spamming one kameo move all game, at worst it would be 2 but the combos of kameos would help reduce that.
The kameos make character have a fair match in certain point. The another important thing is prize tournaments if they put like high prize every time the game would not die . Is a business you have to invest first
It's not the kameos. It's the lack of single player content and the mobile game level grind where it takes forever to unlock skins and gear. Most casuals don't even pay attention to buffs/nerfs or even play Online. Being a single player in MK1 gets boring fast because they have been nerfing all the fun stuff in Invasions every season since launch.
@trebeezy16 many reasons man , I hated this feature even before release when they announced it. Before release they seem silly visually running in and out the screen I didn't like how they took away from the main characters by sharing the fatal blow, throws ,intros etc it made me think what a waste of resources for unplayable assist characters. They could've uses those resources to add more to the main characters or include a few more fully playable characters and add tag team instead ? Nope we got unplayable assist characters with no option to turn off it bothers me as a mma trainee 1v1 is what every fight should be aesthetically and competitively
@trebeezy16 also it soo messy to look at , I feel like having those characters pop in and out makes the fight hard to follow with all the kind of moves they can do , maybe it's just a me thing cuz I play the game casually but have you played the game as subzero and subzero as a kameo ,done the forward throw and watch how subzero freezes unfreezes freezes the opponent some match ups are soo messy to look at
Fatal 8 was amazing. As someone who had never played an mk before, I remember I thought mkx looked kinda interesting maybe when I saw the e3 trailer but that was it and completely forgot about it shortly after. Then I happened to stumble on fatal 8 on youtube and then I was like 'oh i gotta get this game!'
Yo Tweedy, I agree with a lot of what you say. For me as a casual player, cameos has ruined mk1. I also think the character designs were far better in mk11. It's because of the cameos, I gave up playing mk1.
Maybe make MK1 be the trilogy and Armageddon of the reboot era. Have every character and guest from MK9-MK11 in MK1. Even the stages, costumes, etc. and add an arcade mode similar to Street Fighter 5: Arcade Edition in MK1. And bring back friendships, babalities, animalities, brutalities, and hara-kiris. And maybe add mini-games like Puzzle Kombat, motor kombat, and chess kombat.
The problem is like Janet or sub zero makes a character like havoc amazingly good and able to do 80% combos but without them he can only do like 25% ones
Completely agree with you Tweedy. A great example is Sonya. She's been buffed and she's very fun to fight or fight against. She has good moves but it's not like there's nothing to do against her. It opens up so many layers for both players. The way to go is buff the summons and nerf the ambush meta. It's more fun to play and more fun to watch.
#1 complaint about the game is it’s boring. That has NOTHING to do with a ‘skill issue.’ Even when ppl say a character or game mechanic is ‘annoying’, that doesn’t mean a skill issue every time. It means the challenge isn’t fun. Also, annoying = boring a lot of the time if the game feels stale or tedious.
I pretty much agree with everything here. The only thing I disagree with is the tag aspect. People are looking for couch co-op experiences now more than ever and MK1 has a great foundation to provide that. Imagine a co-op story mode? Or co-op towers? 2 v 2 pvp? People want to play MK with their partners, friends, family etc. Assists just feel like blue balls for a tag game mode, and it’s arguably less appealing. Having 2 v 2 as an option would bring players back imo even if it’s somewhat busted at a competitive level it’s just fun and people want fun. Even competitively Imagine Honeybee and Biohazard teaming up to take on the Chilean twins? People would watch just because of the potential storylines. Imagine how many more playable characters you might see on screen at a time?
I also got into competitive mk from watching fatal 8 I’ll never forget how hype that shit was! We definitely need the character variety makes the game way more enjoyable in my opinion as a player and a spectator
NRS needs to work on making a good neutral. MK11 had the right idea by trying to make a neutral focused MK game, but it was slow and boring. MK1’s neutral suffers from the same problems as MK11, they need to speed up the neutral to make the game funner to watch.
I wonder how it would go if they cange Kameleon frm a khameo to a playablr character. Shes so strong andshe was initially all the ninjas so either make another male kameleon or make the character have all the ninjas
Heres a question Tweedy... Do you think someone as dominant and prominent as sonicfox. As kinda the face of the competitive scene of your game hurts it..?? Cause I can see ppl not competing because they see no way to beat the top guys.
Best ideas yet. Kameos making weak characters good will never be more appealing than characters being good by themselves n the kameos being like a plus 1. Definitely think they should make rank ft3 with no character lock, because online kasual matches literally be lasting for like 1 or 2 matches before someone leave.
I've been wishing for test your luck to make a return from mkx. The modifiers in invasions are interesting but just feel annoying in the context of trying to progress, but some whacky games with a couple mates every now and then would be a huge draw for me.
super simple change because it was in the last god damn game:
Let us earn dragon crystals in Kombat League through rank so we can earn the costumes we want to buy
That takes effort. Why would nrs do that when they can just be lazy scum fucks and charge you 10 quid for a badly made outfit
grind ur chars/mastery & you can get 4k+ dragon krystals.
@@TracyCookie takes forever unfortunately
@brianwaterman9154 honestly this doesnt really matter. I personally agree that players should be able to earn everything instead of just swiping mommys credit card, but as long as the microtransactions dont directly affect the gameplay then its a negligable part of the game.
Absolutely this
I'm fresh off a 30 minute MK Tom Brady rant 😵
Really enjoy those 😆
Lmao. You earned a small rest for your travels
Imo, if they nerf the Kameos; Sonya should be the baseline of where everyone else is. She gives you good projectiles, aerial extensions, ring charge, and the leg grab for a combo extender. She ain't broke either, she's just solid.
Been playing Sonya on KL..and it's been fun with her grab being overhead now. I haven't played KL since December.. think I'm done again 😅
She's not solid. Her and Janet are flawed. Jax is what you call balanced because he does disrupt the defense equally
@@christianhenry4173 Janet is one of the most used Kameos in the game, so your objectively wrong. SonicFox has gone on record saying Jax is cheap multiple times. If he's disrupting both the opponents defense and yours, you ain't doing something right.
@@christianhenry4173nah both Janet and Sonya are just fine. Janet got a lil damage nerf but she still plays the same so it's cool.
@@Andigames235 gayfox's opinion doesn't matter
I hate that I spent money on this game, and I love MK, this game feels so damn stale
I felt that way about mk11, i haven't gotten an nrs game since
Same. Tried so hard to like it. Love the franchise. Kameos ruined it for me.
Yeah. This is the first time i've regretted buying a MK game.
That’s crazy bc I genuinely really like the gameplay. The biggest issues for me are how stale the top tier characters get and how much content has been missing since launch
Play different character combos. I think this game is way more interesting than 11 and just as good a mkx. I main off "Meta" kameos (Jax and Sektor) and the characters I play with them aren't as good on paper compared to the "top" kameos for those characters. I play Nitara Sektor, Geras Sektor, Baraka Jax, and Kung Lao Jax.
It is facts, I joined the scene as a casual with MKX and how they were promoting the scene/tournaments at the time. I am from South Africa. Actually the FGC Africa (for NRS games) was created like that.
All the characters feel watered down and like hollow shells of their previous selves. Start there.
Finish!!!!!!..... even kameos...all kameos are ass.... yet Tweedy is calling for nerfs
I'm a Kasual player but I do like Kameo. And I also see your point in buffing the base characters set.
Add a 1v1 mode with no kameos
Mk1 is an assist game so that doesn’t make sense
@@Oneofonejah That’s the problem though. MK was never an assist game in the first place. Should’ve never added it to begin with
@@wallyisboogie7007 well that opinion is subjective & I understand yours for sure.
YES ive been saying. Put all the johhny players in there for you and ill fight everyone else.
@@Oneofonejahhow is that subjective ?the major part of classic mortal kombat has never been an assist game
Tweedy, I heavily disagree with nerfing kameos into the dirt. Devs need to appeal to the highest level and competitive circuit of their game, which means keeping the core mechanics strong- in this game, those are kameos. That said, the casual audience is important too. The ideal solution is to have the devs create a solo (no kameo) fighting mode. Casual players mostly LOVED the “kameo” system in MK11’s towers, so I don’t believe they hate kameos- I just think they hate being FORCED to use kameos.
Edit: I agree with Fatal 8 being the biggest boom for the scene. That’s what got me competing too.
A mode like that sounds like a great idea
Most characters are heavily gimped versions of previous iterations of the characters, because of kameos. They would need to heavily tweak or even rework most of the roster and that's not happening. If they were to just add a "no kameos" mode as it is the game will just be even bare-bones version of MK11.
@@SlCKNESS_ I will take just the bare-bones version without Kameos. I play MK11 more than MK 1 because of it. As a casual MK gamer. Kameo's suck. MK has never been an assist game, and you should not need to rely on them to carry your main character. Also, I do not have time to spend hours learning a character like Homelander or any of the other complex characters along with all the crap the kameo does to make them extend combos, etc.. So they need something like Modern controls, where you can learn a character in a short amount of time and then take them online and be somewhat decent. This is appealing to the casual audience Like SF6. My take is this game was probably first designed to be the next Injustice, but things fell through so they made it the next MK game. Super rushed when it was first released and def got ripped off paying $100 for it. The customization also sucks real bad in this game. I respect MK11 a whole lot more, after this one.
I will not be playing this game anymore and hope MK 2 goes back to 1 V 1 with 0 Kameos. If this is their direction for the foreseable future then I will no longer be playing MK. Pretty sad to say as this was one of the franchises I grew up with. Right now there is so many better titles out there (Street Fighter 6, Tekken 8, Multiverses). Plus, with new games on the horizon like Fatal Fury City of Wolves, this game is going to die in no time. The pro's will not even be able to save it.
@@EZUP4704 100% on par here. I've been playing MK since the first game in the early 90s. Mortal Kombat has NEVER been an assist game like you said. This doesn't even feel like MK anymore, it does feel like Injustice with MK characters imported in. It's not dark enough for MK either. It feels very...fruity.
They ain’t gonna listen bro
Not when you people buy the game, and then complain about it. Money is what talks. Stop buying their product, and things will change.
You're right. As a casual player, I hate Kameo's. Sh*t flying around on screen & all over the place.
“Gerber Baby Buffs” 💀
Kameos were such a waste. Could've been fully fledged characters instead. Going back to the basics of MK9 with no variations in this entry was a big step in the right direction, but turning this into yet another assist fighter was a huge mistake.
I love the kameo system. They give combo variety to the game. But assist games are hard to balance because if a team is broken, do you nerf the kameo or the base character?
I’d say nerf the kameo if anything because the main character should really be doing most of work lol
Make the kameo cool down more even balanced between the kameos or make it a meter where you have to build it up. I feel a timer is what throws a lot of players off and is out of control of the players when they can decide what will happen at a specific time but they can control what they do themselves
If it were up to me, I'd only touch the kameo recharge time. So many folks bellyached about MK11's regenerating meter, but they abuse kameos in MK1 with zero shame 😂
@@arturdabrowski3976 people also need to get better at utilizing all their tools at the disposal
Ur take on kameos is interesting but I think we are way too late for that. Like what do we do with a character like kano, just nerf him beyond use?
I mean give him a new move that’s a launcher, make his laser safe and then make Kano ball a summon that works like Sonya and he’d still be viable
@@DrewDaJuicemanevery single kameo would be the same with these changes tho. Might as well just remove them at that point
They need to be reworked. So that they add a little something but main roster should do the HEAVY lifting. They need to be buffed. A LOT.
@@deadliftdevotion15 they wouldn’t be the same bc some kameos launchers work differently. Some let you jump cancel and some don’t which it turns gives diff combo routes. Several kameos rn don’t even have launchers so it wouldn’t make them the same lol
@@DrewDaJuiceman there’s practically like 3 options you’re suggesting. Ambush combo extender, summon launcher on ground or summon launcher that you can jump cancel. Then the other kameo moves would be just a negative summon. So there would only be 3 types of kameos and they all just add some combo damage so they’re all practically the same besides meterless launcher exists
The fatal 8 tournament was really something, that is exactly how I got into the fgc.
Same.
Im a casual and I like the cameo system because it gives me more opportunities to learn cool stuff and tech putting more hours in the game
Same
I hope they keep the kameo system for the next games tbh I truly enjoy it too
Same, as a kasual I find it pretty fun to explore different combos and set up with different kameos, donno why so many ppl crying about it😅
Well, if they put different skills you could choose to play with, like MKX did, it solves your problem, and everyone elses.
@@censurad_not really lmao you shouldn’t need variations to spice up your own gameplay. You can easily come up with combos that are the fun if all the specials are available rather than being locked to a certain moveset like how they did in mkx/11
tweedy talks so funny everything is just entertaining 😂
Bro said Gerber baby buffs😂
Ah, so the same people complaining about how 2v2 is not a real fighting game or whatever are the ones who want MK to be a subpar Mario Kart clone?
yup lol
Kameos can work just fine, but they need tutorials for every single character. Maybe the tutorials can even include two or three suggestions for each characters best cameos
I mean they areent exactly tutorials but they have combo trials for everyone with some unique kameos for the most part
I played the hell out of mk11.I dropped this after a month or so.Mk11 was flawed but it was better.
As a certified casual player, i very much enjoy using the kameos
i feel the same way. I feel like the casuals that don't like Kameos just have a louder voice on the internet
Im a casual but love kameos. Makes you learn different kombo routes and counter play your opponent.
Using kameos can be fun but fighting against certain teams is hell. I feel like the Kameo system makes the game unnecessarily random at times.
I will not see the hate to kameos for kasuals. They literally do everything you would want with specials but theyre one button
I’m a sweat and I do also enjoy kameos
I'm a casual player and I like the Kameo system. Much more than the variation system (which is what it is). Kameo's allow for variety of gameplay while letting characters keep a majority of their signature moves instead of being a MK repeat.
"They need to promote events"
Meanwhile NRS:
"Lets get sponsored by mountain dew" 😂😂
buff ideas, spread the word
Havoc: He needs at least five new attack strings, he needs his legacy move that titan havoc has were he takes off his head and rolls it but its a mid, has the same affect as reptiles acid ball, and also hits mid exploding on contact. he also needs another one of his legacy moves that again titan havoc has where he bends his hole body for a low projectile and the amp of that can be a knock down allowing for combo extentions for cameos like scorpion
Sub-zero: he needs his attack strings made slightly faster except for his overhead, he also needs 1 or 2 new attack string launchers, both his regular and amp iceball needs to be faster to not only be able to combo with it off of normal attack strings but in juggle combos too. He should have the ability to throw his ice clone, i also think he should have his ice burst special back with the same proporties as mkx to compliment his ice clone(but just does not send you that far away). lastly he needs some of his damage scailing off ground freeze.
Scorpion: should be buffed by making his amp ground tp a launcher again and make the cancel built in to both his regular and amp tp. buff the amp hellfire move by removing the damage over time and making it function like how it does in mkx allowing him to combo after hitting it. he needs new strings some mix ups(i personally want his mkx overhead back). some moves need to be sped up
Quan shi: needs his mind control move from mkx back, and make half his attack strings faster. and finally his low tentacle needs to be one bar
Raiden: change raiden's b2 back to the mkx launcher but make it as slow as sub'z b2. give him back his vicinity blast move back with the same properties as mkx. Give him back his mkx amp lightning projectile back for combo extentions but have his regular fully charged move have the same proportys as the amp. he also needs to be buffed by making his amp electrocute special launch no matter how many bars he uses
liu kang: for starters nerf his f4 one button pressure but give him his 113 mkx launcher back along with maybe 2 or 3 more new attack strings to make up for his pressure and to make it less braindead. make his low fireball slightly faster, change his air fireball to the mkx fireball and the amp the one we have now. give him back his mk 11 dragon parry, and finally make his fatal blow start up 2 hits but the first one restands
kung lao: nerf tf out of his wake up special by making it unsafe af on block. give him back his mkx or 9 spin back but have it have work the same as mk11 so he can use it more than two times in a combo. swap his dive kick now for a mix between his mkx or 9 dive kick. he needs his mkx tp, and his low hat back, but nerf his mix up buttion's he has now by making the overhead follow up slightly slower. give him his mk11 21212 attack string and his mkx 44 launcher attack string back. and also he needs his hat spin.
Nitara: buff her by making her command dash like homelander so for instance all of her normal attack strings that leaves her in the air cost no bar anymore to command dash and it cost no bar when she is in the air command dashing for combos but the next one after that does. and also make fer overhead that leaver her in the air slightly faster. she should also be able plus after hitting her bf2 special allowing her to cameo combo after it. lastly give her back her legacy projectile move back.
Reiko: give him his invasion boss special move, the one is like jades dead butterfly move from mk11 but it launches and he uses his spear(this is already in the game files btw). give this guy at least 1 more special move that involes his knife that's on his person but he never uses for some reason. he needs like 5 new normal attack stings involving his knife and his spear, maybe 2 of them be launchers.
smoke: give him his smoke cloud move back from mk9, along having it hit low but have the same start up as the one he got now. make his command dash special cancelable anywhere instead of just near yr opponent. also another command dash sending him backwards but the max distance is half screen but he can cancel it at any time during that animation too. and lastly make it easyer to do ground combos after his amp db 4 special.
Reptile: give him his acid pool amp special move back but make the amp the special and make the amp of that last longer along with his claw swipe move from mk x. give him 3 to 4 attack stings and have at least one be a launcher and at least 2 be for mixup followups. and lastly allow him to move after doing his forceball just a tad bit more almost like how mkx was but just not as broken
Li mei: 4 or 5 new attack strings, 2 a launchers 1 plus frame one, the rest strings into lows. she needs a new special that let's you command detonate her lantern with one fast motion, fast enuf to do it mid combo. change her base air overhead special hit reaction on airborne opponents, instead of a knockdown it leaves li mei grounded and the opponent in the air allowing for combos like how she could in 3d mk games. also give her back her overhead command special and the amp allow for ground combos. and lastly allow her to be able to combo with one amp projectile grounded and in the air.
y'all stay tune i got more heat for every character
I always said they need a mode that alternates special types of games every week like a no cameo mode one week or 50 second rounds or a beginning character mode where you have to have no games played up to 100 or fight those creative mix characters on very hard and out skins in the mode every week
At this point nobody is not going to be happy with no MK games. People complain to much about it. NRS try to do something new Something different people complain. The games does feel incomplete. I wish there was more for us to do. But I love playing this game and love the kameos. People can Either deal with it or you don't.
Hopefully they will overhaul everything when story expansion comes out.
@@Theguythatshottheleaf we'll see
That's what I always say. The MK croud is just impossible to please.
@@Lance.Gardenhire you can't make everybody happy. I'm still going to enjoy the game.
I am as well. I'm happy with the game. We just got to deal with what we have. Yeah it needs some improvements. But thoroughly enjoying it.
Warrior shrine, I completely forgot about that
And apparently, so did NRS.
@@theretrogamingnerd3316yea there was literally only one thing in this season shrine. And that was a skin with differently palettes. So lame
I came back on the game to see if i can practice with a friend yet. "Coming soon" 😂 fuk that game
I had a dream that they implemented smash Brothers game play with the cameos. Hopefully that’s an actual thing.
I actually thought of the special cancel into special before they did it for Johnny and I never said a word because I thought it was way too strong but it's here so after that I think anything can happen at this point. I mean, they already did Time travel and we're still getting different ideas and strategies for the game. I'm starting to think their willingness to try new things is wide open right now
A no Kameo mode would he welcomed.
Im not a casual and I honestly hope kameos don’t return for MK2, I like the idea of trying something new and expanding the roster in different ways, but I feel like they can have too much of a say in certain matchups and it takes away from the playable characters. That, or just nerf them hard for the next game.
I tried to just read the captions but it was full of “like,” and “stuff like that.” 😂
Do you know what I am saying, this yo boy Tweedy, know what I mean
@@TheWiredWolfyea I should have seen it coming lol
And probably "yall"
I love videos like this. Instead of just bashing and attacking the game. You're giving ideas that can have a productive change that can impact the game in a better direction. I love mk1 but these changes would really help spice the game up. Less nerfs to the main characters and just buff the characters that struggle. And not the baby stuff but like you said " go hammmm." Sub has been melting since day one... He needs BUFFS. So does scorpion, Havik and many more... I want all the characters to shine. More modes would really help it out. I want the tag back. I would love itttt ❤️❤️❤️. Thank you tweedy
I feel like kameos was an attempt to satisfy the fans without fully committing to a full mk9 style tag system.
Fans wanted tag along with assists but they were lazy and just went the assist only route
kameos is actually way harder to pull off but ok bruh
its all about money, they can sell kameos as dlc u know?
Tags and assist?! They already say how assists are alot to handle by themselves
Imo the biggest issue with kameos is the unsafe into ambush shit. That's the type of stuff that makes kameos unappealing to casuals because to them it's too frustrating to deal with, especially when you get into the frame data/jailing shit
Yes being aggressive during your opponents cooldowns is way too daunting imo. Remove kameos so you can lose neutral and change what you complain about tbh
@geraldjohnson8814 obviously theres a solution. The problem is that CASUAL players dont want to worry about managing not only their super and kameo meters, but also their oponents super and kameo meters. People forget that most tweedy (and most other mk creators) viewers arent casual players. We might not be pros in the competetive scene, but were clearly more into the game than the average player.
Tweedy, I'm a hella casual, and I like the kameo system. However, I do agree with you about the Kano knives, Goro up-punch, etc. Basically, nothing is ever punishable with those moves.
So there is no cooldown on them? Or are you only holding block and waiting for your opponent to kill themselves?
@@geraldjohnson8814the cooldown (the kameo gauge needing to refill) only encourages slower gameplans and zoning.
@@geraldjohnson8814
Yes but neutral just becomes run to full screen and wait till kameo is back
I don't know about the goro punches, but the knives are high. You can duck them.
@@josephtpg7329 Yes, that's annoying, but you can't get upset about that. It is a valid game play. I still hate it though.
I agree like instead of killing the top characters GIGABUFF the baskit of everyone that’s lower tier to the upper tier characters levels
De finitely
GIVE SMOKE A DAM MID, HIS SMOKE BOMBS BACK, MAKE 1,2, 3+1 a COMMAND GRAB, OR keep him
ow he is but let me spend meter to make the cancels plus AND/OR just make vicious vapors minus 5-7 range so i dont get full comboed for lag or miss inputs also sometimes i get clipped by projectiles that are obviously behind me
Tweedy normally I agree with the things you say but I completely disagree with your idea of nerfing kameos to the ground. Kameos are what make the game so interesting and if anything NRS needs to focus on balancing them not nerfing all of them as a whole. If we really want to appeal to the casual player base who do not like kameos then the most logical option is to make a no kameo game mode (that also means a no kameo kombat league option). Like thinking about it, it makes so much sense. Not only does it appeal for the casuals, it's a new mode with a new meta to explore. And loads of people were asking for it when the trailers first dropped like a year ago.
I lot of bullshit here 😂
Kameos make the game braindead
@@boblob3509 kind of disagree. Makes the game more intuitive. The right kameo can sometimes be a weakness to your opponent which makes your main character more fun to explorer new ways to play.
NRS will never do that. That's too much work that they are not willing to do. NRS would have to rebalance the entire roster and make new foward throw animations for every character. No way they are doing all that.
@@icebertz Yes a kameo change can help you against an opponent but often times that is not the case if their character/kameo synergy is busted beyond belief because kameos makes negative frames safe, lets you skip neutral by making unga bunga gap closers safe and makes zoners stupid to deal with. Add all that just from a kameo to a character's already good base kit where they are good enough to stand on their own then there is a problem
Personally i feel like people just got upset over a bunch of small issues. The core gameplay is pretty fun, and even when you lost, typically it doesnt sting so bad. Iunno, maybe this game is just my cup of tea
If you lose to a Tanya that does armour into Goro 24/7 in your face it doesn't sting so bad? 🤣 Or Lao? Or pre-nerfed Peacemaker into Egaly? Come on man there are so many cheap and unfun teams in the game.
@@tyry_sa i dont suck so i dont really get steam rolled. And hey i mean if youre struggling hit the lab
Oh yeah people leave fighting games in droves over small minute issues all the time, totally not because the game as a whole is unbearably boring to most.
@@battlericky17 You're being condescending to prove your subjective point. Claiming people don't have "fun" because you assume they don't "hit the lab". Something tells me to not take this conversation seriously...
I feel like it’s a lot of small issues though. It feels like there’s a lot of content missing, even the core gameplay to me it feels like characters should have more moves, idk. I kind of liked MK11 though, not saying MK1 is bad per se but it could definitely be a lot more fun if NRS cared to add some more GOOD updates (stop nerfing characters and make more characters powerful and fun)
Make the blocking animations more like MK X, or MK Deception, or MK Armageddon. Where they catch the incoming punches with their forearms. While switching from arm to arm blocking with each arm individually, catching and slapping the incoming punches. Like in MKX. It makes it look more like the martial arts in the cut scenes and the actual movies.
I’ve been saying every main character needs their kits to be buffed and cameos need to not be as strong
True kameos seem strong. I think if they had a more balanced cool down players would appreciate it, it would allow them time to use their playable character more effectively and planned out. Or maybe make it have to build up like a meter
Great idea! We get watered-down characters with water cameos. This is truly what MK needs right now! DUM DOWN MOAR DOWN DOWN MOAR
The 6 perfect kameos in this game is Sonya, Mavado, Darrius, Tremor, Janet and Cyrax
Every kameo should be like them
Combo extenders
Setups tools
Stuff being safe very expensive and not easy to put off
The rest is buffings the characters to Johnny’s level
Give faster mids to everyone (9f, 10f and 11f)
Strong Gimmicks
Great pressure tools
A real good zonning tool to zonners
Make characters not so dependent on Kameo's and make a no Cameo mode.
What's your Say Tweedy.
Imo, they shouldn´t nerf Kameos at all and instead just make a Casual Friendly mode... Kameoless Mode... If they nerf them, again we will have just the one best single summon kameo move for all characters
I don’t think they even have to nerf kameos so much. If they added a game mode where you play without kameos a lot of people would be happy. I love kameos but for people who haven’t played or don’t like team fighters I get how it would be annoying.
It's not just the kameos, it's the extremely slow strings and moves in the game. Not to mention how basic and barebones all the characters feel.
Instead of nerfing Kameos, just add an option in the setting to Turn On/Off the kameo system. That way you can satisfy both sides. As for the main cast, I rather they focus more on buffs to unleash every characters full potential instead of “balancing” them (aka make them boring) This game is meant to be crazy and fun. Let them loose!
This doesn't solve the problem at all because then multiplayer literally will not function correctly. Imagine some casual turns off kameos and picks havik or some kinda low tier character and gets matched up against a johnny khameleon. All they're gonna do is complain and play the game even less even tho they chose to handicap themselves. This game was built around the kameo system due to characters lacking in certain departments specifically for kameos to fill the gaps, I just don't see that working super well it would prolly only have to be in offline modes but then again that's literally just invasions lol
Ah yes the johhny cage only playlist with no kameos. I would love ALL the johhny cages to not be in matchmaking.
Kameos are not an add on. THEY ARE THE GAME. From breakers to intros to outros to the final boss arcade cinematic to the way every character has a gap in their moves that is covered by Kameos . They are the game. They'd have to completely rework the game from the ground up, which is pointless. Take the Kameos out of this game and it's a equally as hollow MK11
@@WalkBesideMe this exactly, people don't really understand that it would be completely disfunctional
I don’t see balancing as making the characters more boring to play lmao, it just means you have to work harder for your win which I mean you should want to earn your wins anyway
Legacy is what MK needs.
Between mk9-mk1, sub zero has had 16 different special moves, and non of them (outside iceball and slide) make into the next game.
*Klone survived 1 game before it disappeared in mk11, and ground ice made it into mk11, but was banned*
i been a kasual since childhood and i hated the kameo system in the begenning but let me tell u something now i can't imagine this game without a kameo system .
edit invasions mode let me puke
I would say im a kasual player but i find it annoying sektor and cyrax are going to base characters now but female. Wheres cetrion, jade, scarlet.
In mk 7 i think i learnt how to do the combos in order to pass through to the single player mission mode, it was frustrating but at least im learning to become a better player. Also sometimes doing the special moves like blade spark with baraka and rain geyser i cant seem to perform the moves and i tried two different controls.
Also allow easy brutalities instead of easy fatalities
I wish the story was more original and grounded focusing on Raiden and Kung Lao instead of becoming the whole multiverse thing. Especially now that Onaga was rumored but became a prefight line for Reiko, I would've preferred him be a main villain over "original timeline Shang Tsung"
Dam tweedy bringing back my childhood talking about motor kombat that mode was dope! Mk1 really needs a complete overhaul I agree with just about everything you said bro it’d be amazing
I disagree and I'm a casual. I think ambush assists add variety to the game and let people play with different playstyles. I feel like if assists are all the same, then they wouldn't matter at all. Maybe it is because I prefer games like DBFZ, summon assists to me just feel like variations in MK11. Maybe I am wrong, but these are my honest thoughts
I do agree that the base kits of the main characters need to be buffed
Very much agreed
True but he's talking about super casual who don't play online or any other fighting game besides mk. They hate the kameos and don't want to learn. All they care about is getting gear and unlocking more gear for whatever reason.
Cap
@@dec2567 You are totally right. I guess that's my frustration with MK, if you cater to these people the game becomes shit, but they have the loudest voices on the internet. No one differentiates between the different types of casuals, we are all put into the same box
The same question we all ask after any patch
Or how abut having a true tag system with kamoes where they can tag in and let say they get one health bar per fight just do a straight tag mode
Kameo also taking the hit makes my ass itch
MK1 need much more Very Beautiful and Sexy Skins
I live 1hr away from Toronto where they held Final Kombat and had no idea until 2 days after
Woulda been sick to go see Ninja and them man
If anyone knows nrs they don’t care about any of us unless it cause them to lose money . I wish people threw hope and the nostalgic memories because clearly nothing changed for you to still have hope .
2v2 online would be so fun. I loved playing that in MK9 with friends. We would go online and i would carry.
If you take a walk down memory lane, you realize this is still the most balanced MK game to date.
Thats true. Well in casual play.
Hardest... ur forced to learn 2 characters 😂 in no other mk game u had to do that
@gregviews it's not even that hard to learn a majority of kameos
@@LordDarkflash not to hard but if switch kameos mid battle it kind of throws u off.
@@icebertzmmhmm it is, which is why it’s important to pick a cameo and master it first before getting new ideas.
Add a 1v1 option, buff all the base characters, make fatal blow one chance only (miss it and it doesn’t come back)
Yeah 100%
Agree that was what I was saying. They need to nerf all ambush Kameos into 45s cooldown meaning once or twice use per round. This will make neutral more important.
Such an elite game mode would be an online game mode with random character select, I’m sick of playing everyone on their mains when I enjoy learning everyone
Oh. That's interesting! Hmm yeah that would solve specific meta issues. Or maybe give them a limit to how many times they can choose a certain character. Like a token system
@@MioDoxi Everyone would quit
If I had a dollar for every time this dude said “stuff like that” and “you know what I mean” I’d be a millionaire
As a kasual player i agree 100%. The one thing that killed the game for me are the stupid ambush kameos such as goro up punch, kano knives, stryker grenades etc. So much block pressure is just stupid imo. The only ambushes that should excist are ofcourse the combo extensions and the setup ones such as sareena meter drain or ice armor.
And then ofcourse the cast should be buffed. We even have less strings than we did in mk11 which is just crazy. Give more tools to all the characters so you can actually see different playstyles on the same character.
They should make everyone broken like MKX that is what most people loved
I agree. Kameo damage should be very minimal and all fighters should have full kits so they arent dependent on them and the kameos just serve as either a combo starter, extension, or ender. That would being a lot more life back into the game in my opinion.
And like you were saying this would draw attntion to the weaker characters and they would get buffed
2 vs 2 tag battle would have been cooler than cameos
If you you had 2 Kameos instead of 1 and half the meter for each kameo, I think that would open a whole new door to giving the player options and see different match ups. Would stop people just spamming one kameo move all game, at worst it would be 2 but the combos of kameos would help reduce that.
The kameos make character have a fair match in certain point. The another important thing is prize tournaments if they put like high prize every time the game would not die . Is a business you have to invest first
I honestly love the game. You da man tweedy!
It's not the kameos. It's the lack of single player content and the mobile game level grind where it takes forever to unlock skins and gear. Most casuals don't even pay attention to buffs/nerfs or even play Online. Being a single player in MK1 gets boring fast because they have been nerfing all the fun stuff in Invasions every season since launch.
It's 100% kameos ruined it for me
@jeffpaez1997 can you explain why? I'm not gonna try and counter it or anything I genuinely would like to know
@trebeezy16 many reasons man , I hated this feature even before release when they announced it. Before release they seem silly visually running in and out the screen I didn't like how they took away from the main characters by sharing the fatal blow, throws ,intros etc it made me think what a waste of resources for unplayable assist characters. They could've uses those resources to add more to the main characters or include a few more fully playable characters and add tag team instead ? Nope we got unplayable assist characters with no option to turn off it bothers me as a mma trainee 1v1 is what every fight should be aesthetically and competitively
@trebeezy16 also it soo messy to look at , I feel like having those characters pop in and out makes the fight hard to follow with all the kind of moves they can do , maybe it's just a me thing cuz I play the game casually but have you played the game as subzero and subzero as a kameo ,done the forward throw and watch how subzero freezes unfreezes freezes the opponent some match ups are soo messy to look at
NRS should’ve never taken away Tanya’s ORIGINAL Enhanced projectile re-stand move
Fatal 8 was amazing. As someone who had never played an mk before, I remember I thought mkx looked kinda interesting maybe when I saw the e3 trailer but that was it and completely forgot about it shortly after. Then I happened to stumble on fatal 8 on youtube and then I was like 'oh i gotta get this game!'
first time I’m ever early preciate these update vids about the state of game
Make the kameo bar shared with special moves and make it bigger.Like sf6 drive rush that has the same bar as ex specials
Yo Tweedy, I agree with a lot of what you say. For me as a casual player, cameos has ruined mk1. I also think the character designs were far better in mk11.
It's because of the cameos, I gave up playing mk1.
Maybe make MK1 be the trilogy and Armageddon of the reboot era. Have every character and guest from MK9-MK11 in MK1. Even the stages, costumes, etc. and add an arcade mode similar to Street Fighter 5: Arcade Edition in MK1. And bring back friendships, babalities, animalities, brutalities, and hara-kiris. And maybe add mini-games like Puzzle Kombat, motor kombat, and chess kombat.
The problem is like Janet or sub zero makes a character like havoc amazingly good and able to do 80% combos but without them he can only do like 25% ones
Literal cap but ok - Havik main
We might or might not be able to save MK1 but Tweedy saved me
He's always coming in clutch
Completely agree with you Tweedy. A great example is Sonya. She's been buffed and she's very fun to fight or fight against. She has good moves but it's not like there's nothing to do against her. It opens up so many layers for both players. The way to go is buff the summons and nerf the ambush meta. It's more fun to play and more fun to watch.
How about a setting that allows for NO CAMEOS?
#1 complaint about the game is it’s boring. That has NOTHING to do with a ‘skill issue.’ Even when ppl say a character or game mechanic is ‘annoying’, that doesn’t mean a skill issue every time. It means the challenge isn’t fun. Also, annoying = boring a lot of the time if the game feels stale or tedious.
I pretty much agree with everything here. The only thing I disagree with is the tag aspect.
People are looking for couch co-op experiences now more than ever and MK1 has a great foundation to provide that. Imagine a co-op story mode? Or co-op towers? 2 v 2 pvp? People want to play MK with their partners, friends, family etc. Assists just feel like blue balls for a tag game mode, and it’s arguably less appealing. Having 2 v 2 as an option would bring players back imo even if it’s somewhat busted at a competitive level it’s just fun and people want fun.
Even competitively Imagine Honeybee and Biohazard teaming up to take on the Chilean twins? People would watch just because of the potential storylines. Imagine how many more playable characters you might see on screen at a time?
How about make kameo damage they do regenerative .....or make them make to be killed
I also got into competitive mk from watching fatal 8 I’ll never forget how hype that shit was! We definitely need the character variety makes the game way more enjoyable in my opinion as a player and a spectator
NRS needs to work on making a good neutral. MK11 had the right idea by trying to make a neutral focused MK game, but it was slow and boring.
MK1’s neutral suffers from the same problems as MK11, they need to speed up the neutral to make the game funner to watch.
I wonder how it would go if they cange Kameleon frm a khameo to a playablr character. Shes so strong andshe was initially all the ninjas so either make another male kameleon or make the character have all the ninjas
Heres a question Tweedy...
Do you think someone as dominant and prominent as sonicfox. As kinda the face of the competitive scene of your game hurts it..??
Cause I can see ppl not competing because they see no way to beat the top guys.
It's just hard discipline y strategy. It is said easy, but the reality is different.
Best ideas yet. Kameos making weak characters good will never be more appealing than characters being good by themselves n the kameos being like a plus 1. Definitely think they should make rank ft3 with no character lock, because online kasual matches literally be lasting for like 1 or 2 matches before someone leave.
Top eight where 6 characters are used should be the goal.
That means you need 10characters that are worth and able to get to the top. Not just Johnny.
They should have an option in the next patch to turn on/off Kameos.
I've been wishing for test your luck to make a return from mkx.
The modifiers in invasions are interesting but just feel annoying in the context of trying to progress, but some whacky games with a couple mates every now and then would be a huge draw for me.
No Kameo mode.
Game is fixed.👍
Kameos are lit.
Life long MK player...I hate the cameo system. It is not 1v1, 2v2, or 3v3. It's just a meter bar disguised as a character.