I watched the video guessing at the price the whole time - I was way wrong, thought it was going to be MUCH more, so I think $90 is extremely fair. Definitely a product targeted at an enthusiast with experience building PCs. Usually that means a ludicrous price, happy to see this one is really reasonable!
I agree. It's not super cheap, but I think it hits the price point I would hope for in something that's "some assembly required." I was worried it would end up going the other direction, and be more expensive due to the R&D and/or lower production volumes. While I think they probably could have gone even lower, I'm not disappointed by the price.
With poor knowledge of PC case prices and the similar expectation of "enthusiast markup" i was honestly thinking something around 300-400 bucks. It's kinda weird to imagine PC cases being that cheap compared to something like keyboards, just by the apparent material costs.
This looks cool enough that I may consider trying it if the thermals turn out to be even remotely close to my old Corsair 5000D Airflow. I've never built a case, and honestly this looked like more fun of an experience than trying to shove everything into a prebuilt box.
I love the option. Hopefully we’ll see more DIY cases going forward, maybe options where you select only the parts you want and they don’t ship you extras [I, for example, would never use some of the colors in the featured package, so it would just be a waste for me]
So a little bit of insight from the shipping industry; couriers work on what's called 'dimensional weight'; the weight of the package is compared against what the weight of a given density of material would be for that space, to avoid undercharging for bulky light items. The dimensional weight is almost *always* used for something the size of a PC case; to use the example of a CM mastercase 500, the package (at 61cmx57cmx31cm) weighs 9kg, but would be billed as 22kg of dimensional weight. Cutting down the empty space would ABSOLUTELY reduce the shipping costs.
Reminds me so much of the sadly now failed winter one SFF case. Flatpack honestly makes so much sense for SFF cases. For my water-cooled NR200 build, it required me to take it apart as much as I could before I started where if it was flatpacked, it would not only have been easier (more access) but also faster.
The pegboard thing is nice. I mounted an Ikea "skådis" to my case and I use it every day. If I want more desk space for something not computer related I can just hang every perephial on my computer (top is already taken). Not only that, a couple of small boxes on the side of my case to store pencils, thumb drives, screw drivers, and things like that is really handy.
I've built in this case twice, and can't say enough good things about it. The most important one is SIZE for a full size ATX board. If you have just a a couple of drives, there's simply no competition. The build quality is great, NO PLASTIC panels. Assembly is EXTREMELY simple. And access to everything as you build is AMAZING... I like it's little brother 300, but that's a different case alltogether. Another FUN to build case is thermaltake v1 and v21. More people should think about the looks and the experience, and different use cases.
Just the price point of this is amazing, and including 3d models for "extras" that you might want to add to your case for free is also just amazing. Just that gives alot of room for indepentent modelers to make use of the mounts and new ideas.
Bought this for my first PC build and really enjoyed it. Very easy to figure out how stuff goes together, and building around the components makes it really easy to move cables around and such. I highly recommend this case for beginners.
Its ability to be a bunch of different case shapes, like a half cube, test bench, normal, etc, that's genuine innovation. And putting together the case looks at least as easy as an IKEA bookshelf.
I got this exact case a few weeks ago. It's a brilliant design. Whoever designed this is a genius. Because this can work as a testbench with only the motherboard stand or it can work as a full case. The fact that it can fit my old E-ATX motherboard is impressive, because those are one of the largest motherboards for gaming rigs which was designed to fit in a full tower case. I'm actually surprised Linus didn't review this, since this is a hidden gem.
I actually just got this case and I'm very happy with it. I like how its more compact compared to a mid tower and I'm an avid 3d printer and already have my side panel cover with accessories (still leaving eanough space for airflow) 9/10 wish one more fan was included and the steel plates for front top and bottom were not as closed off.
This is the 2nd build I'm ever gonna make. First was h6 flow, which went amazing and worked perfect first try, lots of tutorials and testing using an old PC.
I will use this for a water cooled build with external radiator. i always wanted a small case that could fit high end hardware and get a big radiator to place under the desk. even the largest cases have restricted airflow and you have compatibility problems from radiator size to fan mounts (those new daisy chain fans) to fitting placement. so why not put everything into a tiny box and connect it to a Mo-RA 600. no cooling issues and you can move them separatly.
If you want to mount a 280 rad in this thing, pay *very* careful attention to how *deep* the rad is. Rad depth is the primary factor of whether you can get it in with a SFF PSU. Also, you might find the default cables too short to run behind the motherboard.easily. I had to really work them. The fact that the case knocks down so quickly though really makes it easy to get everything laid out the way you want.
I just built my gf a pc with this exact case last week for Christmas. I was looking for reviews and you guys were the first one I came to. Guess I was a week early😂
Cooler master needs to make this idea actually cube shaped and have it be a nas option, i would buy that in a heartbeat, i love cube cases especially for storage options
Finished a built in this case 2 weeks ago and absolutely love it! Sadly mine didn’t come with the Lego kit! That was so cool! I wonder if I can track one down
Cool case! Also, I have a case with a similar concept in mind - Thermaltake Core V21. Sure, you can't build it wall-by-wall, but it is pretty configurable too - all panels, fan/rads bracings are detachable, so you start from a clean case frame and thi is very convenient!
I just transplanted an old ATX-based system from a Corsair 275R into this and it was a genuine breeze. Probably helps that my GPU is just a twin-fan model, but I don't think I've ever actually *enjoyed* a build quite so much as I did with this case. I've got a few gripes, most notably that considering it's a vaunted "modular" system, you can't buy side panels or the different coloured snap-on panels separarately (I got the white version of the case), and it would be nice if you could disconnect the front power LED (the front connector all being one block is lovely, but it does take away that ability to choose not to plug in the - as usual - obnoxious blue LED power indicator), the big gap at the back is a slight concern in a flat with two cats, and there's no reset button. But overall, I love it, and I actually found it to be the easiest case I've ever built in, so no "hard mode" for me, and I'm pretty much a novice in most ways. For £55, it's a fantastic little case and looks really cool. Have heard folk saying that removing the dust filter can drop temps by about 5-10 degrees, but again; cats, so not something I'm going to be doing.
I've been saying for years there needs to be a case like this where you can start by making sure the parts work (ie: start as a bench) then once good go, just put the case together. The days of old-school acrylic cases were something similar but obviously, over time, it became ugly or unappealing, but the airflow wasn't good, or the case was too big. This is perfect; from the choice of color plates to the (extensive) use of holes/perforation, all the way down to what you want to put into the case vs. not having them be in there without a purpose. For $90, I can somewhat justify it considering all the features and options given. Yeah, at $70-$80 I can definitely see it being an extremely competitive case in the market.
this is really cool. i have the Cooler Master Q300L for my server pc because their is a decent mod community for it. This case seems like it will grow into a massive customization community already. cant wait to see what people do.
the struggle he was going through made this video so much more interesting. its nice to see that im not the only one who gets confused all the time with builds haha
I'm amazed flat packed cases aren't more common. When you're doing freight, you always want it to travel on weight. An empty full tower case, might be travelling at double it's weight, because of the volume. Also you can fit a LOT more flat packed cases into a shipping container. So that reduces the per item bulk shipping cost too.
I will say, those instructions are still better than what Caselabs used to include in their flat pack cases. Took me forever to build my SMA-8 and wound up never using it. Still sitting in a closet with a cover.
When it comes to shipping overseas by sea, it's the volume rather than the weight that incurs costs. Therefore, being able to ship 2-3 times the amount for the exact same cost means they can include an extra 30% in weight within the shipment without incurring additional shipping expenses.
Kitguru complained about the mesh. Cooler Master already said they'd replace it with a less obstructive one. Several weeks ago. Agreed with everyone, you really want to be able to buy it without the pointless glass panel, especially as their steel panel is a pegboard and you can almost certainly mount standard pegboard fittings to it (they do seem to use similar size holes but I can't confirm it). Easier shipping is a huge bonus. You'll fit a lot more of these in a container than you will normal cases. The website doesn't show the alternative configurations that you can do and I don't think you mentioned them here either. The 'top' doesn't have to be the top, you can mount the feet on the other sides if you want different layouts. There's a document that comes with it that does show those configs but all the websites has/had was a rapidly changing gif so it's not clear how or why you'd lay it out differently.
I know that in SFF cases putting the PSU somewhere besides the back is common, one of several reasons I hate SFF, but in an ATX/mATX case I really want a rear mounted PSU. It just simplifies the whole build. Flat pack is much cheaper to ship as volume matters far more than weight until you get a load so dense that a fully loaded container exceeds the weight limit for such, which these cases will never even get close to. CM will get a lot more of these in each container and that makes each one cheaper to ship, likely why the price was so low. Shipping more per container is also much lower carbon usage, as again, there are simply more in the container. It looks like a good idea, and better than the last flat pack case I saw, Inwin IIRC, which was just mini ITX.
For a lot of comments about temperature performance and noise i was a bit disappointed there wasn't any demonstration with the pc running, but i guess that is fair enough for a shortcircuit, tbh i was expecting something around the 200usd for that thing but for 100 idk i'm loving the looks of the case.
OK I fully expected a $250-350 price tag since these cases are usually at that price point. A $90 for B&W edition is really neat. If I had no case for a PC I build for my niece for christmas, this would be 100% it. I actually paid $130 for the case for her PC (Vetroo AL800)
I think this is a decent first attempt at the concept, either we'll see a mid-gen update or a massively improved second-gen product. I figure the airflow issue mostly comes down to rigidity, given that it's two sandwiched panels instead of the chassis and a beauty panel, there's no decent way around it, especially if you're hanging a radiator off of the interior panel. I also think they could get around the issue of extra panels if they just had a customization option, literally just choose your colorways and that's what gets packed in the box, rather than including multiple colorways in one product; this same mentality would also apply to other potential options, say if they went with a hex tessellation rather than the circles on a grid or even a HAF variant, or different interior components, or the potential for expansions on the base case such as doing a dual-chamber or extended case, etc. Teething issues aside, this is a _really_ good first attempt at a flat-packed modular case. Upgrading the case could also be fairly accessible, if you want a new colorway just order the panels needed, same with other potential parts if they expand the case's ecosystem. Now I want to see what other large manufacturers will end up doing within this space.
Not too sure about this case specifically, but I do really like that there does seem to be at least a little trend towards flat pack cases. I always wondered why so few did this. The holes and 3d printed accessories is kinda nice but I definitely doesn't seem like a mainstream feature.
That might be the same size as their Q500L. I'm using the Q500L and love how compact it is for ATX case (and I don't paticulary like aquarium type case). Only hope that I have those feet since it is taller than Q500's pre-installed
I really like that design. The price is also great. Is there no option to put the PSU on the bottom? A server rack mountable version would be nice too.
@@wherearemytesticles I believe Bitwit mentioned it in his video on the case, but I don't think he showed it in that orientation. (I could be wrong though, its been a minute since I watched his)
That was a missed opportunity, should have not mentioned the Lego set was included, and just started building it as if was the PC case it self. 😂 Then once done do the real build.
When shipping packages, the cost is either volume or weight, whichever comes out more on the calculations the carrier uses. These calculations are intentionally designed to result in higher charges for larger boxes of the same weight, because the conveyance has both a max weight and max volume, and ideally they would hit moth maximums at the same time, but most packages take up too much space for this to happen, so they want to encourage smaller packages for the same amount of weight.
I just got one of these because I liked the form factor and the carrying handle. I have a little older (so bigger) PSU, and a pretty large GPU so I was limited on fans and ended up with an intake 140 on the top and bottom, and 120mm intake on back and top aswell and have great thermals.
I would put another intake on the bottom and front, but I have hdds and my big ass PSU in the way so I just have to let the case have a little negative pressure to suck air in from the front and wherever else it feels like
got this to replace my fractal define 7 xl, large beautiful case, but... honestly, this case is just so much better IMO... now if you need a full tower yea, the 7 XL is the way to go and I am considering their smaller versions myself, but this flat pack design was just so pleasant to work with, I moved all my ATX components including a standard ATX psu and noctua nhd15 and a 6800xt AND 3 fans... into the qube, same performance, slightly warmer by like 4 Celsius but otherwise, smaller and surprisingly so easy to work with since everything is flat packed you can just lay it flat, unscrew all the panels, dust it, clean it and put them back in less than 20 min, I am considering buying another one for another mesh panel because I flipped the glass to the wires side and can custom spray paint them as well for more personal touch... just a beautiful case to work with and has EVERYTHING you need and even the front USB hub looks like its easy to upgrade if I ever wanted too in the future... and using the SAME screws for everything was just perfection.
actual thermal testing as a second video would be cool if they decide to revisit this in the next few weeks. im looking for a new case and i like the concept. but im afraid it will run too hot
for me it makes sense for an itx case to be self assemble since it removes the step of disassembling the entire case for an easy build. 8/10 itx case just need a full disassembly to be accessible.
They're definitely saving on the shipping, a lot of high volume shippers get pretty good deals and are often charged solely by dimensions unless you hit a certain threshold.
on the top i just removed the filter, no need to filter the air as its leaving the case. and the mesh isn't too bad honestly with an air cooler. fans spin at 800 rpm and cool just fine.
I really enjoyed building mine but damn that instruction booklet was confusing at some points. At least the provided videos. I also like that they provided a full CAD model you can use for customization.
Bought this case (Macaron) based just on the colours. The angled internal PSU connector poses some compatibility issues (ugly with my RM850e) and my tempered glass arrived scratched, and I wish I could add two handles to the top without blocking ports.
Very cool case, conceptually. I love building stuff like this even if its quite complicated and customizable. Maybe I'm one of those guys LTT describes as "someone who likes to set things up" though.
It's reasonably priced and sized, it's flat packed and it's a nice simple case. I love it. Was a hard decision to make not to get this over the Mechanic Master C26.
the first flatpack case that I built in is a Formd T1 case. I honestly think it's better to build your own case, especially for mini itx build because most of the time you will disassemble the case anyway.
@@RenatsMC1 sure but the Terra is insanely expensive compared to this, and quite importantly, is an ITX case not an ATX case. It might be interesting if they could take this case and do an ITX version of course - especially if some of the components were interchangeable.
I bought this a month ago and I found building the setup in the case very easy considering the size with a couple of caveats. SFX PSU is pretty much a must with long graphics cards and water cooling isn't quite as versatile as they say in the product page. Installing a 280mm AIO in the top competes with the same space as the PSU and front panel IO cables and CPU power needs to be routed through the front. Everything did fit just fine in the end, but the result isn't quite as clean as in some other cases. All in all, I'm still pretty happy with the case.
It's a cool idea, but the main purpose of flatpacking stuff, is to reduce transport cost. For this case the box is hardly smaller, so flatpacking is feels like giving real flatpacked stuff the finger. They may just as well have made a normal case that happens to be customisable.
More cases should be flat packed. Brings back innovation, lowers costs, and expands customizability. Weight isn't what makes shipping cases expensive; dimensions are. If you can fit four times more cases in the same shipping container, for about the same cost, you're able to disperse the overhead waaaaay better.
you didnt show the front panel connector but its a single connector for the front panel and im trying to figure out how to hook it up to my motherboard...
I have the Q300P from coolermaster and it suffers from the same intake issues, this model is kind of like the younger sibling of the lineup. Hopefully they put in lower density mesh cause that's a huge factor.
I'm actually getting one of these cases to review and build in soon, psu at the front actually makes a lot of sense since drive bays are less common nowdays, the modularity is really cool but I wonder how many people will ACTUALLY buy this over some of the other cases..
Some thing I think you forgot to mention is that it can accomodate a full size (max. 170mm tall) air cooler PLUS 7x140mm fans OR a 280 mm radiator and 5x140mm fans (I did not include in the count the 120mm rear fan) which I think it would solve most of your cooling issues. I am currently making a build for my own computer using this case with a 280 mm radiator and a pack of 5x140 fans so I would be delighted to compare my temps with some other builds. And, yes, I know it's either the HDD's or the fans (in theory) but I think I found a workaround that issue. I will post at some point an in-depth video of the build.
The idea of a company releasing 3D models for attachments is absolutely amazing! The modular holes is something I've never seen before. I need this.
Thermaltake did it years ago
@@DukeNuggets69 what was the model?
@@Triflixfilms All of Thermaltake P series cases support this. They have a 3d Maker site that's been around since 2016.
Cooler master also made a bracket for the nr200 that allowed full ATX power supplies, and they made the 3d model available to download as well.
Crocs also have modular holes, but obviously, those aren’t computer cases.
legitimately best new case in years.
i was completely expecting this to be 250 usd.
I came down to look for this comment, never in a million years would i guess that something like this is less than 200 usd and whithin my budget
I watched the video guessing at the price the whole time - I was way wrong, thought it was going to be MUCH more, so I think $90 is extremely fair. Definitely a product targeted at an enthusiast with experience building PCs. Usually that means a ludicrous price, happy to see this one is really reasonable!
I agree. It's not super cheap, but I think it hits the price point I would hope for in something that's "some assembly required." I was worried it would end up going the other direction, and be more expensive due to the R&D and/or lower production volumes. While I think they probably could have gone even lower, I'm not disappointed by the price.
I was thinking the same thing, I figured around double what it actually costs. Either way, not for me, but the price isn't too bad for what you get.
Came here to comment this as well. I was surprised it was less than $150 USD
With poor knowledge of PC case prices and the similar expectation of "enthusiast markup" i was honestly thinking something around 300-400 bucks. It's kinda weird to imagine PC cases being that cheap compared to something like keyboards, just by the apparent material costs.
As someone with a caselab, building the case is just part of the pc building experience.
This looks cool enough that I may consider trying it if the thermals turn out to be even remotely close to my old Corsair 5000D Airflow. I've never built a case, and honestly this looked like more fun of an experience than trying to shove everything into a prebuilt box.
I love the option. Hopefully we’ll see more DIY cases going forward, maybe options where you select only the parts you want and they don’t ship you extras [I, for example, would never use some of the colors in the featured package, so it would just be a waste for me]
So a little bit of insight from the shipping industry; couriers work on what's called 'dimensional weight'; the weight of the package is compared against what the weight of a given density of material would be for that space, to avoid undercharging for bulky light items. The dimensional weight is almost *always* used for something the size of a PC case; to use the example of a CM mastercase 500, the package (at 61cmx57cmx31cm) weighs 9kg, but would be billed as 22kg of dimensional weight. Cutting down the empty space would ABSOLUTELY reduce the shipping costs.
Getting a new PC, assembling it as a test bench and then finishing the case another day sounds pretty cool
Another year*
@@Jobey_99 I rebuilt my pc early this year, I still haven't bothered to put either side panel on yet.
It reminded me of my own PC build before I was able to get the case I wanted.
Reminds me so much of the sadly now failed winter one SFF case.
Flatpack honestly makes so much sense for SFF cases. For my water-cooled NR200 build, it required me to take it apart as much as I could before I started where if it was flatpacked, it would not only have been easier (more access) but also faster.
It was great building in it. Being able to easily remove the panels and adjust / make connections was so good.
The pegboard thing is nice. I mounted an Ikea "skådis" to my case and I use it every day. If I want more desk space for something not computer related I can just hang every perephial on my computer (top is already taken). Not only that, a couple of small boxes on the side of my case to store pencils, thumb drives, screw drivers, and things like that is really handy.
I build a pc "case" out of skadis :D
@@gregor2436 that sounds like a way to start your own TH-cam channel.
I've built in this case twice, and can't say enough good things about it. The most important one is SIZE for a full size ATX board. If you have just a a couple of drives, there's simply no competition. The build quality is great, NO PLASTIC panels. Assembly is EXTREMELY simple. And access to everything as you build is AMAZING... I like it's little brother 300, but that's a different case alltogether.
Another FUN to build case is thermaltake v1 and v21.
More people should think about the looks and the experience, and different use cases.
Wait, my box didn't come with the lego!!!
Just the price point of this is amazing, and including 3d models for "extras" that you might want to add to your case for free is also just amazing. Just that gives alot of room for indepentent modelers to make use of the mounts and new ideas.
Bought this for my first PC build and really enjoyed it. Very easy to figure out how stuff goes together, and building around the components makes it really easy to move cables around and such. I highly recommend this case for beginners.
Its ability to be a bunch of different case shapes, like a half cube, test bench, normal, etc, that's genuine innovation. And putting together the case looks at least as easy as an IKEA bookshelf.
I got this exact case a few weeks ago. It's a brilliant design. Whoever designed this is a genius. Because this can work as a testbench with only the motherboard stand or it can work as a full case. The fact that it can fit my old E-ATX motherboard is impressive, because those are one of the largest motherboards for gaming rigs which was designed to fit in a full tower case.
I'm actually surprised Linus didn't review this, since this is a hidden gem.
A 9° difference with or without the mesh is crazy. Definitely one labs should test
1:29 The numbers, Mason! What do they mean?
That is an awesome case for me and my daughter to build. I mean, the choice for pink and white cases are nill. It's priced right as well. So awesome.
I'm in love with this thing, it's actually super affordable too!
Built it for a friend a week ago, it was a really cool experience. The quality is really good. and the "little" noctua NH-D15 fits perfectly !
I actually just got this case and I'm very happy with it. I like how its more compact compared to a mid tower and I'm an avid 3d printer and already have my side panel cover with accessories (still leaving eanough space for airflow)
9/10 wish one more fan was included and the steel plates for front top and bottom were not as closed off.
Loved the music choice for this video, it’s so calming compared to the typical ones.
Absolutely, hands down, most likeable and watchable presenter at LMG.
What I loved was the front panel connector was one plug, finally :D
This is the 2nd build I'm ever gonna make. First was h6 flow, which went amazing and worked perfect first try, lots of tutorials and testing using an old PC.
I will use this for a water cooled build with external radiator. i always wanted a small case that could fit high end hardware and get a big radiator to place under the desk.
even the largest cases have restricted airflow and you have compatibility problems from radiator size to fan mounts (those new daisy chain fans) to fitting placement.
so why not put everything into a tiny box and connect it to a Mo-RA 600. no cooling issues and you can move them separatly.
I'm just saying, I would absolutely watch front to back a genuine, seriously made unboxing and build experience video of the lego kit
If you want to mount a 280 rad in this thing, pay *very* careful attention to how *deep* the rad is. Rad depth is the primary factor of whether you can get it in with a SFF PSU. Also, you might find the default cables too short to run behind the motherboard.easily. I had to really work them.
The fact that the case knocks down so quickly though really makes it easy to get everything laid out the way you want.
I just built my gf a pc with this exact case last week for Christmas. I was looking for reviews and you guys were the first one I came to. Guess I was a week early😂
I own this case and absolutely love it. Fun to build, super high quality and it looks awesome.
Cooler master needs to make this idea actually cube shaped and have it be a nas option, i would buy that in a heartbeat, i love cube cases especially for storage options
Can't wait for the Perfect Grade version of this
Finished a built in this case 2 weeks ago and absolutely love it! Sadly mine didn’t come with the Lego kit! That was so cool! I wonder if I can track one down
Cool case! Also, I have a case with a similar concept in mind - Thermaltake Core V21. Sure, you can't build it wall-by-wall, but it is pretty configurable too - all panels, fan/rads bracings are detachable, so you start from a clean case frame and thi is very convenient!
I just transplanted an old ATX-based system from a Corsair 275R into this and it was a genuine breeze. Probably helps that my GPU is just a twin-fan model, but I don't think I've ever actually *enjoyed* a build quite so much as I did with this case. I've got a few gripes, most notably that considering it's a vaunted "modular" system, you can't buy side panels or the different coloured snap-on panels separarately (I got the white version of the case), and it would be nice if you could disconnect the front power LED (the front connector all being one block is lovely, but it does take away that ability to choose not to plug in the - as usual - obnoxious blue LED power indicator), the big gap at the back is a slight concern in a flat with two cats, and there's no reset button.
But overall, I love it, and I actually found it to be the easiest case I've ever built in, so no "hard mode" for me, and I'm pretty much a novice in most ways. For £55, it's a fantastic little case and looks really cool. Have heard folk saying that removing the dust filter can drop temps by about 5-10 degrees, but again; cats, so not something I'm going to be doing.
I've been saying for years there needs to be a case like this where you can start by making sure the parts work (ie: start as a bench) then once good go, just put the case together. The days of old-school acrylic cases were something similar but obviously, over time, it became ugly or unappealing, but the airflow wasn't good, or the case was too big. This is perfect; from the choice of color plates to the (extensive) use of holes/perforation, all the way down to what you want to put into the case vs. not having them be in there without a purpose. For $90, I can somewhat justify it considering all the features and options given. Yeah, at $70-$80 I can definitely see it being an extremely competitive case in the market.
if they had options for polygon cut-outs instead of circles i would consider it. And i don't think i like having the PSU up front
this is really cool. i have the Cooler Master Q300L for my server pc because their is a decent mod community for it. This case seems like it will grow into a massive customization community already. cant wait to see what people do.
the struggle he was going through made this video so much more interesting. its nice to see that im not the only one who gets confused all the time with builds haha
Volume is usually more expensive on container ships than weight.
I'm amazed flat packed cases aren't more common.
When you're doing freight, you always want it to travel on weight. An empty full tower case, might be travelling at double it's weight, because of the volume. Also you can fit a LOT more flat packed cases into a shipping container. So that reduces the per item bulk shipping cost too.
The case build is cool and all, but I really want to see that Lego Pico case!
I will say, those instructions are still better than what Caselabs used to include in their flat pack cases. Took me forever to build my SMA-8 and wound up never using it. Still sitting in a closet with a cover.
As a custom PC builder, I like this case as you can paint every piece before assembly.
When it comes to shipping overseas by sea, it's the volume rather than the weight that incurs costs. Therefore, being able to ship 2-3 times the amount for the exact same cost means they can include an extra 30% in weight within the shipment without incurring additional shipping expenses.
Kitguru complained about the mesh. Cooler Master already said they'd replace it with a less obstructive one. Several weeks ago.
Agreed with everyone, you really want to be able to buy it without the pointless glass panel, especially as their steel panel is a pegboard and you can almost certainly mount standard pegboard fittings to it (they do seem to use similar size holes but I can't confirm it). Easier shipping is a huge bonus. You'll fit a lot more of these in a container than you will normal cases.
The website doesn't show the alternative configurations that you can do and I don't think you mentioned them here either. The 'top' doesn't have to be the top, you can mount the feet on the other sides if you want different layouts. There's a document that comes with it that does show those configs but all the websites has/had was a rapidly changing gif so it's not clear how or why you'd lay it out differently.
I know that in SFF cases putting the PSU somewhere besides the back is common, one of several reasons I hate SFF, but in an ATX/mATX case I really want a rear mounted PSU. It just simplifies the whole build.
Flat pack is much cheaper to ship as volume matters far more than weight until you get a load so dense that a fully loaded container exceeds the weight limit for such, which these cases will never even get close to. CM will get a lot more of these in each container and that makes each one cheaper to ship, likely why the price was so low. Shipping more per container is also much lower carbon usage, as again, there are simply more in the container.
It looks like a good idea, and better than the last flat pack case I saw, Inwin IIRC, which was just mini ITX.
For a lot of comments about temperature performance and noise i was a bit disappointed there wasn't any demonstration with the pc running, but i guess that is fair enough for a shortcircuit, tbh i was expecting something around the 200usd for that thing but for 100 idk i'm loving the looks of the case.
OK I fully expected a $250-350 price tag since these cases are usually at that price point. A $90 for B&W edition is really neat. If I had no case for a PC I build for my niece for christmas, this would be 100% it. I actually paid $130 for the case for her PC (Vetroo AL800)
I think this is a decent first attempt at the concept, either we'll see a mid-gen update or a massively improved second-gen product. I figure the airflow issue mostly comes down to rigidity, given that it's two sandwiched panels instead of the chassis and a beauty panel, there's no decent way around it, especially if you're hanging a radiator off of the interior panel. I also think they could get around the issue of extra panels if they just had a customization option, literally just choose your colorways and that's what gets packed in the box, rather than including multiple colorways in one product; this same mentality would also apply to other potential options, say if they went with a hex tessellation rather than the circles on a grid or even a HAF variant, or different interior components, or the potential for expansions on the base case such as doing a dual-chamber or extended case, etc. Teething issues aside, this is a _really_ good first attempt at a flat-packed modular case. Upgrading the case could also be fairly accessible, if you want a new colorway just order the panels needed, same with other potential parts if they expand the case's ecosystem. Now I want to see what other large manufacturers will end up doing within this space.
Not too sure about this case specifically, but I do really like that there does seem to be at least a little trend towards flat pack cases. I always wondered why so few did this.
The holes and 3d printed accessories is kinda nice but I definitely doesn't seem like a mainstream feature.
That might be the same size as their Q500L. I'm using the Q500L and love how compact it is for ATX case (and I don't paticulary like aquarium type case). Only hope that I have those feet since it is taller than Q500's pre-installed
Ltt missed the chance to call it dark souls of pc building 😂
I used to have a Q300L and this case is pretty much a modular Q300L with add-ons. And Im not saying it’s bad, because I loved my case!
I have this case still and love it, this might be my next upgrade
I had a q300l too. Worst airflow ever.
I really like that design. The price is also great. Is there no option to put the PSU on the bottom? A server rack mountable version would be nice too.
Yes, the PSU can be mounted in the bottom. I don't know why nobody shows it.
@@wherearemytesticles I believe Bitwit mentioned it in his video on the case, but I don't think he showed it in that orientation. (I could be wrong though, its been a minute since I watched his)
That was a missed opportunity, should have not mentioned the Lego set was included, and just started building it as if was the PC case it self. 😂 Then once done do the real build.
When shipping packages, the cost is either volume or weight, whichever comes out more on the calculations the carrier uses. These calculations are intentionally designed to result in higher charges for larger boxes of the same weight, because the conveyance has both a max weight and max volume, and ideally they would hit moth maximums at the same time, but most packages take up too much space for this to happen, so they want to encourage smaller packages for the same amount of weight.
It'd be really cool if you made and showcased a few of the 3D-printable accessories, too! :)
I just got one of these because I liked the form factor and the carrying handle. I have a little older (so bigger) PSU, and a pretty large GPU so I was limited on fans and ended up with an intake 140 on the top and bottom, and 120mm intake on back and top aswell and have great thermals.
I would put another intake on the bottom and front, but I have hdds and my big ass PSU in the way so I just have to let the case have a little negative pressure to suck air in from the front and wherever else it feels like
i would love to see them make an itx version of this. or even an updated nr200p using this kind of design/system.
got this to replace my fractal define 7 xl, large beautiful case, but... honestly, this case is just so much better IMO... now if you need a full tower yea, the 7 XL is the way to go and I am considering their smaller versions myself, but this flat pack design was just so pleasant to work with, I moved all my ATX components including a standard ATX psu and noctua nhd15 and a 6800xt AND 3 fans... into the qube, same performance, slightly warmer by like 4 Celsius but otherwise, smaller and surprisingly so easy to work with since everything is flat packed you can just lay it flat, unscrew all the panels, dust it, clean it and put them back in less than 20 min, I am considering buying another one for another mesh panel because I flipped the glass to the wires side and can custom spray paint them as well for more personal touch... just a beautiful case to work with and has EVERYTHING you need and even the front USB hub looks like its easy to upgrade if I ever wanted too in the future... and using the SAME screws for everything was just perfection.
Thanks for the vid, I was quite interested in this case, looks fun :D
love this case and idea , and the end of the video was so funny to me lol
Ah, the classic "putting the tempered glass on the wrong side to show off the worst side of the computer" routine
actual thermal testing as a second video would be cool if they decide to revisit this in the next few weeks. im looking for a new case and i like the concept. but im afraid it will run too hot
for me it makes sense for an itx case to be self assemble since it removes the step of disassembling the entire case for an easy build. 8/10 itx case just need a full disassembly to be accessible.
Kind of like a Lego that you get to play games on when you are done! I could see getting this for my kids to build their first PC “from scratch”
Seems like a nice case. Cooler Master has good products indeed
i like the handle the best! but great video thanks i wish there were more cases with handles
They're definitely saving on the shipping, a lot of high volume shippers get pretty good deals and are often charged solely by dimensions unless you hit a certain threshold.
next year "testing the first foldable pc case" - there is so much karagamii inspired stuff right now, would just make sense :D
on the top i just removed the filter, no need to filter the air as its leaving the case. and the mesh isn't too bad honestly with an air cooler. fans spin at 800 rpm and cool just fine.
I really enjoyed building mine but damn that instruction booklet was confusing at some points. At least the provided videos. I also like that they provided a full CAD model you can use for customization.
Bought this case (Macaron) based just on the colours. The angled internal PSU connector poses some compatibility issues (ugly with my RM850e) and my tempered glass arrived scratched, and I wish I could add two handles to the top without blocking ports.
Where's the LTT meteor lake review?
Very cool case, conceptually. I love building stuff like this even if its quite complicated and customizable. Maybe I'm one of those guys LTT describes as "someone who likes to set things up" though.
It's reasonably priced and sized, it's flat packed and it's a nice simple case. I love it. Was a hard decision to make not to get this over the Mechanic Master C26.
For this price? Sure!
Great idea and design solutions 👍 I love it!
the first flatpack case that I built in is a Formd T1 case. I honestly think it's better to build your own case, especially for mini itx build because most of the time you will disassemble the case anyway.
Fractal Design Terra is also a good case for its build small form factor and you can put in even RTX 4090 if you wanted to and i9
@@RenatsMC1 the Formd T1 is better tho
@@RenatsMC1 sure but the Terra is insanely expensive compared to this, and quite importantly, is an ITX case not an ATX case. It might be interesting if they could take this case and do an ITX version of course - especially if some of the components were interchangeable.
actually it was pc building on easy mode. much easier than building in a normal case. you build it as you go.
Definitely considering 2 of these for my kids computers.
I'm extremely tempted to grab a few of these and then design and 3d print components to build a mini-sized rack.
I bought this a month ago and I found building the setup in the case very easy considering the size with a couple of caveats. SFX PSU is pretty much a must with long graphics cards and water cooling isn't quite as versatile as they say in the product page. Installing a 280mm AIO in the top competes with the same space as the PSU and front panel IO cables and CPU power needs to be routed through the front. Everything did fit just fine in the end, but the result isn't quite as clean as in some other cases. All in all, I'm still pretty happy with the case.
Yeah it seems to me to be a mesh case as in no glass panel since like you said hiding the cable is harder
There are environmental benefits if the boxes take up less volume. So they can ship more units per container/truck.
It's a cool idea, but the main purpose of flatpacking stuff, is to reduce transport cost. For this case the box is hardly smaller, so flatpacking is feels like giving real flatpacked stuff the finger. They may just as well have made a normal case that happens to be customisable.
Built this for a dedicated streaming rig I wanted really small, this did the job fantastically. case feels real nice too.
CONGRATS!
More cases should be flat packed. Brings back innovation, lowers costs, and expands customizability. Weight isn't what makes shipping cases expensive; dimensions are. If you can fit four times more cases in the same shipping container, for about the same cost, you're able to disperse the overhead waaaaay better.
the Qube 500 seems like a great case for lan parties, especially cause of that handle
Looks are good enough, and I do like the idea of building the case. But now gonna need us some thermal and air flow testing!
Bravo adam, your presentation and energy has become so good, it seems so natural to you! keep it up!
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Finally a case that makes us feel the pain that our fathers and/or mothers experienced when they had to set up a dollhouse for their daughters!
Or anyone assembling Ikea furniture, present day.
you didnt show the front panel connector but its a single connector for the front panel and im trying to figure out how to hook it up to my motherboard...
I have the Q300P from coolermaster and it suffers from the same intake issues, this model is kind of like the younger sibling of the lineup. Hopefully they put in lower density mesh cause that's a huge factor.
Honestly looks like a pretty fun case to build in. I'm too basic and use a Corsair 4000d airflow.
I'm actually getting one of these cases to review and build in soon, psu at the front actually makes a lot of sense since drive bays are less common nowdays, the modularity is really cool but I wonder how many people will ACTUALLY buy this over some of the other cases..
"Lets not let that, distract from the fact, that it is a flat pact computer." 🔥🔥
I have it for a week and I really really like it. :)
Great video Adam! When's Shea gonna host a Short Circuit?
Some thing I think you forgot to mention is that it can accomodate a full size (max. 170mm tall) air cooler PLUS 7x140mm fans OR a 280 mm radiator and 5x140mm fans (I did not include in the count the 120mm rear fan) which I think it would solve most of your cooling issues. I am currently making a build for my own computer using this case with a 280 mm radiator and a pack of 5x140 fans so I would be delighted to compare my temps with some other builds. And, yes, I know it's either the HDD's or the fans (in theory) but I think I found a workaround that issue. I will post at some point an in-depth video of the build.
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