I assume the Belabog story was also changed because it'd be pretty hard to resolve something that extreme by just letting the underworlders up and replacing Cocolia with her daughter. It'd be hard to leave the planet feeling like things would get better if things were that extreme, and the planet stories aren't long enough to do the kind of storytelling that'd make it actually seem like it's getting better.
that kind of feeling is sort of what they're playing with in penacony now, it feels like. like we quelled the stellaron and things are generally for the better, but the underlying problems that plague penacony (like the IPC and the other family's greed) are still present and theres not much to be done with them
@@Iwasbag but we do went back to these area one at a time.. Belobog with Topaz, Xianzhou with current story & later Tingyun reveal, and possibly Penacony with Sunday and other stuff..
The classism plotline would have been good but making it work as an ending would be MAD difficult. its like solving eulas reputation problems in the spam of 3 days except now its a whole city who we’d have to fix the reputation of on TOP of replacing its ruler. 😭
@@floridianliau35man you can really tell the difference in talent. I would NOT have been able to stand the original voice acting. No offense to her of course, but Skylar just sounds so fitting.
It was mentioned in the announcement trailer for the game though, before even the first beta test. Where Cocolia had a voice line that said "one of them is carrying a seed of ruin, which will bring about our end" In the final game bronya does call the stelleron a seed of ruin during the final confrontation. So I'm assuming that was the reason for the initial fight where bronya chases us into the underworld.
probably because they wanna introduce stellaron later in the game because the trailblazer didnt meet with stellaron hunters yet, so they don't know the name or details about the thing
I agree with most of the replies in the comments and as much as I love dark lore, old belobog doesn't fit well and doesn't leave you with a satisfying conclusion Plus it's too fast for literally being the first storyline in game for things to get so dark, honestly I'm happy with the current storyline
i agree, now that the games a little more established though id love to see them eventually go into that darker tone for future planets, put the honkai in HONKAI star rail
Something I remember from HSR CBT is that dailies used to be the same comission-like system as genshin where you had to complete 4 daily missions instead of the simple tasks we have now
you still had to do one commission post launch. the daily tasks we have now were implemented later. those commission missions are still present but they likely get ignored by everyone thanks to the daily tasks lol
@@_makoI’m playing from the launch and almost never touched that one daily quest with dialogues. You always has been able to do your dailys withot it zero problem. It become easier when they stopped to change it daily but it was always about “play a game for 10 minutes and do what you was going to do anyway” I’m sorry for my poor English if that’s unreadable but i tried my best haha
its cool to see that the challenge mode not only was repurposed for divergent universe, but also for ZZZ in a very similar fashion, where you save your progress from a run to then fight a final boss with different objectives
@@carlos-zy7vx kinda, it's the inferno reap added in 1.1, where you can use saved blessings from a hollow zero run and fight the final boss directly, receiving rewards based on ammount of dmg dealt
4:34 technically, they do appear in the game. And I say "technically" because only the png of the coin is used (known as Hertareum) so I'm not sure if it counts. I will leave that to you
AFAIK characters you met in Simulated Universe would tell you about important backstory elements about themselves (somewhat similar to Gold and Gears or Swarm Disaster Skits). Kafka, for instance, would describe more or less her 'true' answers from what would become 1.2's Truth and Lies game.
@@ShizukiShirano Per the wiki: ''“"I am your destiny." The woman replied, "It took me a long time to find you and an even longer time to become restrained and patient. I didn't act until Elio found the best of futures. He told me that you will change me." She smiled bitterly, "So, you are my destiny too."”'
Leaks sub has some arts for 6piece ones, also def body didn't get replaced by current body. You can see current body as article piece. Flat def got replaced by a split neck piece, half went to rope er and % base stats and other half to sphere dmg bonus.
I don’t have any footage but I can confirm that the achievement leveling system used to give pulls. I don’t remember which of the 2 pull types it was, but I also remember the system being really nice early on but feel worthless later since it took more and more xp to get through each level.
I remember a lot of data mining that was occurring, specifically information about March and her possible original name. Because the character played way different I assumed that it was just a placeholder model, but it was really fun to see people implement them
Honestly, finding out that HSR's Belobog chapter used to be darker wasn't a surprise for me. I mean, these are the same people who worked with HI3rd. HI3rd's darkness is like, only 2nd to GGZ (which is an entirely different nightmare on its own). I guess they were a little too excited when making Belobog chapter and decided to rewrite it just to soften the story up.
Imagine if the game launched with the original Belobog storyline. You boot up the game expecting a cute spacefaring adventure, only to be thrown into Hoth With Apartheid and told to solve racism before the end of the week.
If u have more of this, or more from their other games, I’d LOVE it. Cut content and seeing what went thru their heads and what could’ve been is my favorite part abt gaming.
HSR had so much for thought in hindsight looking back in how so many early systems they've improved upon and then later brought back into the game knowing it would add to the player qol experience and just needed to polish thing's up, it really is a hallmark of a good developer who cares about they're craft vs a bad one who would rather ignore they're potential customers for giving negative feedback and then call them toxic, then improve upon they're craft
on one hand. 6 piece AND ornaments would have allowed so much customizability. on the other hand it woulda been a bitch to farm but... I hope they bring em back
Yeah but the 5 piece bonus is just another stat boost anyway. It essentially makes no difference to the current system we have now, or at least it wouldn't be as interesting. More so just annoying. Sure we don't have an off-piece but with self modeling resin it really doesn't feel like an issue.
Zenless has the 6 piece that's for sure and that alone is painful to grind and only is benefitted by the fact character kits are homogenized so there are no dead potential stats like Effect Hit Rate or Incoming Healing. I can't imagine having 6 different relic pieces to grind, AND the ornaments, AND the main stat for chest + sphere + rope, AND the substats (I don't want to run two flat stats when it could be anything more useful like effect res.
Probably because having satisfying conclusions to darker plots is extremely difficult in the story format of this game. They'd need everything to be waaaay longer and that wouldn't fly. Hoping they do some darker themes, but I understand why they wouldn't
Because the Jarilo storyline would be WAY longer than what we have since the conflict of the Underworld and the Overworld would be extremely more deep and personal (for the Underworld since they're locked away to literally die to radiation and treated like how police treat black men). In the Penacony arc, we left since the problem of politics would be up to the background characters and not us since we know jack about how to solve and we don't really have to. In Jarilo, not only would we form a connection with the characters above and below, but we'll see how they treat each other which would make it unsatisfying and just outright depressing if we just up and left for the Underworld and Overworld to fight amongst themselves. TL;DR. We'd need to solve literal racism if this version of Jarilo or else us saving the planet would be meaningless if the people kill themselves either way.
@totallyregulargiorno plus ppl just hate unfinished plot lines. We all saw how much ppl hated the Xhianzou alliance story and how "it ended" even though it didn't
because you can't really solve something like that fast. so it's best to chop out a few details and make it easier to digest in a single storyline rather than a full 1.0 - 1.9 patch for one planet.
The achievement leveling system reminds me of Tower of Fantasy they have something similar where you would get rewards for having a certain amount of points from achievements.
I don't want to sound like AK invented rock diseases, but as an arknights player, the similarities of the beta story to arknights is uncanny (crystallization and oppression of infected thing)
Would've been interesting, but I feel like the darkness of it would've immediately put most players off and make for a story that tries to do a lot of big things too fast
@@caffeinatedhypnos8048 the Fact Clara had that disease also would have been too much for some people. Me Included, the Little orphan girl having Space Rock Cancer?!
tbh, i kinda like the old version of preservation MC ult but the ending is a bit bad. having a mix of like the first couple of sec in the intro of the old till like 8:29 where in it fades black then add the new version till ends that could've been better. Also if they keep the Enhance basic attack for destruction MC they would be probably relevant or be used more in the latest version, tbh i hope they bring that back The old story in Belobog felt really dark it was great they change it because that felt a bit yeah dark
The six relic shouldn’t have been changed cause it allows you to have mistakes by not allowing this it makes the relic system one of the most grinding and difficult and upsetting part of the game.
ok I'm a little bit mad about removing 6-pcs purely because i missed out on a cool looking revolver and harmonica to farm well the new 2 pc planar orb set has much more fun effects though ngl
ok wow the battle in the background looks so much better than the one that hoyo kept... like it looked very clean edit: the battle shown for the first point edit 2: wish they kept tb old animation... like come on, the preservation one running looks so goofy and funny and the destruction one's pose looks just as goofy
I actually like the idea of 6 pieces making a comeback together while keeping the Planar, thus allowing our characters stronger to keep up with the enemies that having more and more hp and defend
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I assume the Belabog story was also changed because it'd be pretty hard to resolve something that extreme by just letting the underworlders up and replacing Cocolia with her daughter. It'd be hard to leave the planet feeling like things would get better if things were that extreme, and the planet stories aren't long enough to do the kind of storytelling that'd make it actually seem like it's getting better.
that kind of feeling is sort of what they're playing with in penacony now, it feels like. like we quelled the stellaron and things are generally for the better, but the underlying problems that plague penacony (like the IPC and the other family's greed) are still present and theres not much to be done with them
the stellaron was sealed you forgot the most significant part
o assume that part of why the eternal freeze will start slowly disappearing instead of instantly is because they would have to make a new map for it
@@IwasbagAnd the story acknowledges that. Right now we have done what we could. Now we have to trust in Robin to trailblaze forward.
@@Iwasbag but we do went back to these area one at a time.. Belobog with Topaz, Xianzhou with current story & later Tingyun reveal, and possibly Penacony with Sunday and other stuff..
The classism plotline would have been good but making it work as an ending would be MAD difficult. its like solving eulas reputation problems in the spam of 3 days except now its a whole city who we’d have to fix the reputation of on TOP of replacing its ruler. 😭
also it makes cocolia much more evil ruining her motivations
Okay hear me out... We replace bronya to overthrow the tyranny
@@MishaXGallagher we talking about replacing the racism in the whole ass town; making bronya the only leader would NOT change that lmao
@@MishaXGallagher what did bronya do
@@MishaXGallagher wtf is that name? Is that supposed to be a ship?!
Good video! Also if you're curious about the scar on clara's neck, she was originally supposed to die because of the geomarrow
oh my god?? 😭😭
*Fate stay night flaskback*
If people were in doubt that Clara wasn't an Illya expy, this would shut them down lol
@@kristorischannel214 not really.. least she didnt die cuz some golden prick ripped out her heart :/
@@yuuunarukami7006 Damn didn't know she died like that
The way the background fades in Dan Heng’s Ult at 1:31 was so cool. I wish they kept it tbh
Domain expansion
OH
IS THE ORIGINAL CRYSTALISED MINERS THING WHY WE FIGHT MINERS AND THOSE FRAGMENTUM FROZEN SOLDIERS
Old march sounds like current paimon
That was before they got Skylar Davenport to voice March.
even current march can sound high pitched at times, and she talks so slow 😮💨
@@floridianliau35man you can really tell the difference in talent. I would NOT have been able to stand the original voice acting. No offense to her of course, but Skylar just sounds so fitting.
Something I noticed in the old belabog story was the absence or mention of ANY stellaron.
It was mentioned in the announcement trailer for the game though, before even the first beta test. Where Cocolia had a voice line that said "one of them is carrying a seed of ruin, which will bring about our end"
In the final game bronya does call the stelleron a seed of ruin during the final confrontation.
So I'm assuming that was the reason for the initial fight where bronya chases us into the underworld.
probably because they wanna introduce stellaron later in the game because the trailblazer didnt meet with stellaron hunters yet, so they don't know the name or details about the thing
@@t0x1cfire75 oh thanks.
@@youravghuman5231 that makes sense.
I agree with most of the replies in the comments and as much as I love dark lore, old belobog doesn't fit well and doesn't leave you with a satisfying conclusion
Plus it's too fast for literally being the first storyline in game for things to get so dark, honestly I'm happy with the current storyline
i agree, now that the games a little more established though id love to see them eventually go into that darker tone for future planets, put the honkai in HONKAI star rail
i think it’s slowly getting darker tbh, we already have 2 canonly dead characters so atleast it’s better than genshin lol
Fersman In The Current Story: Appears In Both Main Story And Side Quests
Fersman In The OG Draft: 💀💀
Something I remember from HSR CBT is that dailies used to be the same comission-like system as genshin where you had to complete 4 daily missions instead of the simple tasks we have now
And you can basically do the tasks by just.. playing. U don’t even need to try tbh.
you still had to do one commission post launch. the daily tasks we have now were implemented later. those commission missions are still present but they likely get ignored by everyone thanks to the daily tasks lol
@@_makoI’m playing from the launch and almost never touched that one daily quest with dialogues. You always has been able to do your dailys withot it zero problem. It become easier when they stopped to change it daily but it was always about “play a game for 10 minutes and do what you was going to do anyway”
I’m sorry for my poor English if that’s unreadable but i tried my best haha
@@_mako I still do the daily quest every day for the 5k credits.
@@Noahhfr when it released you still had to do daily quest i think
the fact that we would have just started and the first world we go to had SPACE CANCER is insane.
its cool to see that the challenge mode not only was repurposed for divergent universe, but also for ZZZ in a very similar fashion, where you save your progress from a run to then fight a final boss with different objectives
i havent gotten really far into zzz, is that what hollow zero is?
@@carlos-zy7vx kinda, it's the inferno reap added in 1.1, where you can use saved blessings from a hollow zero run and fight the final boss directly, receiving rewards based on ammount of dmg dealt
4:34 technically, they do appear in the game. And I say "technically" because only the png of the coin is used (known as Hertareum) so I'm not sure if it counts. I will leave that to you
Maybe they were just a placeholder?
it's the currency in the special shop of HSS
5:38 Oh god I just saw this, Luocha needing 3 stacks to activate his Field!? Sheesh.
AFAIK characters you met in Simulated Universe would tell you about important backstory elements about themselves (somewhat similar to Gold and Gears or Swarm Disaster Skits). Kafka, for instance, would describe more or less her 'true' answers from what would become 1.2's Truth and Lies game.
cuz it's quite hard to make a story dark without making it edgy. oh, and the game is kinda...kid-oriented, so...
Interesting, wanna know what she said back then.
@@ShizukiShirano Per the wiki: ''“"I am your destiny." The woman replied, "It took me a long time to find you and an even longer time to become restrained and patient. I didn't act until Elio found the best of futures. He told me that you will change me." She smiled bitterly, "So, you are my destiny too."”'
Leaks sub has some arts for 6piece ones, also def body didn't get replaced by current body. You can see current body as article piece. Flat def got replaced by a split neck piece, half went to rope er and % base stats and other half to sphere dmg bonus.
I don’t have any footage but I can confirm that the achievement leveling system used to give pulls. I don’t remember which of the 2 pull types it was, but I also remember the system being really nice early on but feel worthless later since it took more and more xp to get through each level.
i feel like that is just for beta only purpose to make players easy to get the chars to test them
I remember a lot of data mining that was occurring, specifically information about March and her possible original name. Because the character played way different I assumed that it was just a placeholder model, but it was really fun to see people implement them
I miss the old daily mission where you just had to take a photo. I had so many silly photos from doing my dailies but now i never use the feature :/
2:21 12 days ago on hsrleaks reddit, full art for the 6 piece sets was posted. Shouldve looked harder I guess
Honestly, finding out that HSR's Belobog chapter used to be darker wasn't a surprise for me. I mean, these are the same people who worked with HI3rd. HI3rd's darkness is like, only 2nd to GGZ (which is an entirely different nightmare on its own). I guess they were a little too excited when making Belobog chapter and decided to rewrite it just to soften the story up.
IM SO GLAD THEY CHANGED MARCH'S VOICE ACTING. YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE RELIEF I FELT AFTER GOING FROM GENSHIN TO STAR RAIL WHEN IT RELEASED 😭
the removed mark on clara was most probably a natural stigmata. seele also had one in early versions
A commenter said that the actual reason of the mark was that it was the geomarrow's radiation killing Clara.
Imagine if the game launched with the original Belobog storyline. You boot up the game expecting a cute spacefaring adventure, only to be thrown into Hoth With Apartheid and told to solve racism before the end of the week.
If u have more of this, or more from their other games, I’d LOVE it. Cut content and seeing what went thru their heads and what could’ve been is my favorite part abt gaming.
3:57 Thank GOD they brought this back.. farming planars became SO easy after DU
HSR had so much for thought in hindsight looking back in how so many early systems they've improved upon and then later brought back into the game knowing it would add to the player qol experience and just needed to polish thing's up, it really is a hallmark of a good developer who cares about they're craft vs a bad one who would rather ignore they're potential customers for giving negative feedback and then call them toxic, then improve upon they're craft
man i would have loved a level up system for the achievements, i love achivement hunting and wish there was a little more to it like that
8:16 DON QUIXOTE FROM LIMBUS COMPANY
on one hand. 6 piece AND ornaments would have allowed so much customizability. on the other hand it woulda been a bitch to farm but... I hope they bring em back
they did! in zenless zone zero
Yeah but the 5 piece bonus is just another stat boost anyway. It essentially makes no difference to the current system we have now, or at least it wouldn't be as interesting. More so just annoying. Sure we don't have an off-piece but with self modeling resin it really doesn't feel like an issue.
@@renno2679they can just change the 5 set to anything else. so it would be really nice if it was that way
Zenless has the 6 piece that's for sure and that alone is painful to grind and only is benefitted by the fact character kits are homogenized so there are no dead potential stats like Effect Hit Rate or Incoming Healing. I can't imagine having 6 different relic pieces to grind, AND the ornaments, AND the main stat for chest + sphere + rope, AND the substats (I don't want to run two flat stats when it could be anything more useful like effect res.
the sprite for collector coins is now used a hertarium which is the regional currency for the herta space station
Why is it always CBT1 getting the dark story and then it's all just some goofy quests about saving the world in the final release...
Probably because having satisfying conclusions to darker plots is extremely difficult in the story format of this game. They'd need everything to be waaaay longer and that wouldn't fly. Hoping they do some darker themes, but I understand why they wouldn't
@@necodriver1419We would probably still be on jarilo
Because the Jarilo storyline would be WAY longer than what we have since the conflict of the Underworld and the Overworld would be extremely more deep and personal (for the Underworld since they're locked away to literally die to radiation and treated like how police treat black men).
In the Penacony arc, we left since the problem of politics would be up to the background characters and not us since we know jack about how to solve and we don't really have to. In Jarilo, not only would we form a connection with the characters above and below, but we'll see how they treat each other which would make it unsatisfying and just outright depressing if we just up and left for the Underworld and Overworld to fight amongst themselves.
TL;DR. We'd need to solve literal racism if this version of Jarilo or else us saving the planet would be meaningless if the people kill themselves either way.
@totallyregulargiorno plus ppl just hate unfinished plot lines. We all saw how much ppl hated the Xhianzou alliance story and how "it ended" even though it didn't
because you can't really solve something like that fast.
so it's best to chop out a few details and make it easier to digest in a single storyline rather than a full 1.0 - 1.9 patch for one planet.
Wow thank god they changed the plot of belobog. That's so dark it might've forced the rating up higher
Old March sounds so bitchy and I love it
Funnily enough they did the 4 piece and 2 piece sets, as well as one of the pieces being DEF only in the 3 slot and moved them to ZZZ
2:17 You gotta respect the grind for rummaging through different playthroughs to get all the images of those pieces.
GOD AND I THOUGHT MARCH RIGHT NOW WAS TOO HIGH PITCHED SOMETIMES
7:45 I will say tho, the way they didn’t even tell the old VA they replaced her and just… did it.. is rlly cruel to this day
My birthday is in April, so all us April birthdays got HSR as s birthday gift
The old March was Mickey Mouse. What the fuck was that?
The Devs made HSR knowing it was a "Honkai" game. I'd still play the original beta anyways. Seemed like it wasn't too bad.
He’s back! Yaaaaassssss!
The achievement leveling system reminds me of Tower of Fantasy they have something similar where you would get rewards for having a certain amount of points from achievements.
I don't want to sound like AK invented rock diseases, but as an arknights player, the similarities of the beta story to arknights is uncanny (crystallization and oppression of infected thing)
Honestly I would like the beta story more than the current
Would've been interesting, but I feel like the darkness of it would've immediately put most players off and make for a story that tries to do a lot of big things too fast
@@caffeinatedhypnos8048 yeah but they can and some into the current story
There's also zero way to conclude such a problem in a narratively satisfying way.
Okay... So how would that storyline end?
@@caffeinatedhypnos8048 the Fact Clara had that disease also would have been too much for some people.
Me Included, the Little orphan girl having Space Rock Cancer?!
Plamya is fire in most of slavic languages
I LOVE your videos!! Glad you’re posting again!
1:55 *sigh* still waiting
"Devil's" an image of Hook appears
Clara is secretly a Herrscher 😨😨😨
I’m glad they changed March’s voice because her current voice is so pretty. Don’t tell her I said that, tho
It's pronounced pla-mya, not pla-mi-ya. And it literally means "flame" in russian
1:25 dodge the evil word lol
3:07 so literally worse 😭
tbh, i kinda like the old version of preservation MC ult but the ending is a bit bad. having a mix of like the first couple of sec in the intro of the old till like 8:29 where in it fades black then add the new version till ends that could've been better. Also if they keep the Enhance basic attack for destruction MC they would be probably relevant or be used more in the latest version, tbh i hope they bring that back
The old story in Belobog felt really dark it was great they change it because that felt a bit yeah dark
0:02 makes me proud for having only 7 days when i havent logged in
The scrapped gun relic for Wild Wheat did look really cool though.
It's interesting how many of those things made it into ZZZ
So old ver march was paimon
You showed that they changed March's voice, but I heard that Clara's voice direction changed in 1.0 too since her original acting got a lot of hate?
10:30 ain't no way man orpathy 💀
atleast oripathy gives you superpower lol
The six relic shouldn’t have been changed cause it allows you to have mistakes by not allowing this it makes the relic system one of the most grinding and difficult and upsetting part of the game.
Fun fact: Plamya means "flame" in Russian. So Belobog is literally blessed by "Flame" lol
It ain't Honkai if the story isn't dark with people dying left and right
ok I'm a little bit mad about removing 6-pcs
purely because i missed out on a cool looking revolver and harmonica to farm
well the new 2 pc planar orb set has much more fun effects though ngl
You forgot one thing: arlan used to be good
the impact frames for the first tb preservation is so cool tho
hmm, nah, that shit is hard. Bad segment. 2:30 You should have just put the relic set name on the sides of each set
Oh hii
The old UI oof
ok wow the battle in the background looks so much better than the one that hoyo kept... like it looked very clean
edit: the battle shown for the first point
edit 2: wish they kept tb old animation... like come on, the preservation one running looks so goofy and funny and the destruction one's pose looks just as goofy
I actually like the idea of 6 pieces making a comeback together while keeping the Planar, thus allowing our characters stronger to keep up with the enemies that having more and more hp and defend
Came for Seele pog
HSR fumbled hard by making Belobog rudimentary
Himeko there giving away Hotaru her piece was actually so adorable