The organizers and people who defended her want the spotlight on them to disappear. They insisted she didn't know he was married. But now, it has been revealed she knew all along. It's about saving as much face as possible, which is huge to Japanese. They know by next year, mostly people will have moved on to other drama, but if the crown passes to the runner up, they will continue to endure the shame all year.
No, he was not. It was only said sometimes, that he was a plastic surgeon. And also he confessed, that he didn't tell her, he was married. After all of this, she herself asked judges to take her crown
@kingfuqurmahmen6792 That's why she looks so pumped up and unnatural. She's not pretty at all! This is not beautiful for the Miss World pageant. And there was certainly nepotism in the selection for the most beautiful girl. All those Japanese women are much more beautiful than this Ukrainian woman.
@@GhastlyCretin it actually takes years of training and in some Asian countries you’ll need a doctorate or masters to do pageantry judging. Most don’t even make it passed “Hell week” when they start out and even those that make it go on to suffer PTSD later on in life.
As a Korean born in France, I can say many average European girls would be considered beautiful in east asia, especially the westernized/modernized countries. You can tell by watching the ones who get most plastic surgery (it was more Japan before but Korean surpassed, just like on other issues like low birthrates) If we consider orange most beautiful, an orange will be more popular in country of apple . Every time I went to Korea as teenager, beauty standards were easier, I looked more mature and handsome until I go back to France . Many plastic surgery clinics skyscraper in Seoul , skin whitening clinic, publicity is allowed as well. Same with growth hormone treatment during childhood and teen years it's common in Korea (obsession with size/height) I've never been in a place where people want to change so much as in. Korea .(Because I used to hang out with cool old people , it's only at 12 years old i really understood the problèm. Most situation was already existing in Japan (main influence on Korea in Americanisation/westernization) . Less common in china but still exist. In France it's not even imaginable to do plastic surgery at school , especially when teenager. It didn't surprised me when I heard about these controversial things in Japan, cause it's easy to be a celebrity in asian for a white chick just by learning language. My mom explained me long time ago and i travel a lot so , corruption or not , it doesn't surprise me .
@@alex.l5732East Asians obsession with the “white body”. Round eyes, higher nose, narrower chin, taller and more muscular body, and of course, bigger b**bs, the more “white looking”, the more attractive. From movie stars to anime characters, all protagonists look like hybrid, instead of ordinary people on streets. It’s very common that an Asian woman married a white man, but the opposite is so rare. It’s because in finding mates, women select and men are to be selected. It’s very unpleasant, even disturbing to ponder over the implications of this phenomenon. I don’t understand why people who suffer from a deep sense of inferiority want to have children. Isn’t it selfish and even morally reprehensible?
How? He was not given any awards or something that he could get back. It is not crime to cheat. Maybe his position as he broke integrity of competition if he was judjing her.
@@myentertainment55 Of course it would be his position as a judge that we're talking about. Of course, we know it's not a crime to cheat, but what does that have to do with anything? It's not like the Ukrainian woman is going to jail and we want the same for the judge...
Why isn't the judge named? He orchestrated the whole thing and only the young woman is named and shown? His face and name should be included. It takes two to tango.
I can’t figure out why she’s in trouble. The married man made the immoral choice. I wonder about age difference too, people want to drag the kid through the mud but not a married adult parent who cheated on his spouse with a pageant Queen.
@@karenabrams8986 Why are you infantilizing her? She's not a kid. Everyone in this situation are all adults and she knew the man was married. She and the cheating husband are willing participants. They're both bad, he's just worse.
@@karenabrams8986there are plenty of channels that explain laws and the way Japan works. 1 it is a highly conservative country(even though majority of them cheat on their spouses) 2 there are very strict laws about defamation of character, honor is a huge thing in Japan so even if harassed you are not allowed to mention their names at work, with anyone and in media, No matter how right you are. You will get SUED.
I don’t know to what extend, but cheating in Japan is not seen as a shameful thing as it is seen in the western world. Many Japanese women seem to be ok with it as long as there is no real love involved. At least that’s what I’ve seen online with interviews.
@@istanbuloskinot really ... cheating of any kind will result badly in Japan... Especially to those that are of celebrity status. There are actors and actresses that were never to be seen again because of the cheating scandal. This is confirmed by Haruka Nakagawa, an ex AKB48 and JKT48 member who's now working in Indonesia. She was quite surprised how both these types of scandals got different reactions in these two countries...
Yea, she's western, not japanese. If it's another contest that not represents culture/country then it'll be okay. .but this?. If it's not because this scandal that made her win then people of japan is fucked to be brainwashed with westernization standard and lost their patriotism. I'm Asian, and I'll be mad if my country let foreigners win this kind of contest.
@@joyfulzero853 By definition, you're right. It should be "runners-up". First and second runners-up are usually considered as-good-as the winner of pageants but not all three can be crowned. Hence the "fan favourite" vote I suppose. 🤝😊
And the fact the judge isnt winner of any contestant, likely he would be moved to another job instead, privately. Like how female teachers caught sleeping with boys are quietly moved to another district instead of public news.
She first played a victim not knowing he was a married man. She was actually demanding him to leave his family and harassing his wife over a year. She returned the crown only because she got busted.
Don't make up random controversy without proving it with reliable sources. I could literally say she abused him to give her the crown during the affair too but I haven't backed it up, so why should it be taken as fact?
@@Nagvanshieuswhy don’t you do some research instead of asking for a link, in which can’t be shared through a comment section. Mind blowing, the laziness of people unwilling to do their own sourcing, and wanting someone to provide a source in a comment section.
Why? Oh wait. Sorry you said you have learning difficulties and are poorly educated so that explains it. Poverty, poor education and low intelligence usually creates racism.
Why? She has spent all but the first 5 years of her life living & being raised in Japan. She's literally Japanese. This is like saying only Mohawk/Sioux/Comanche/Pawnee/other Native American women are eligible to win the title of Ms. America.
I'm European, my mom too, when i tell her this story she says if something like this happened in our side story,she said she will be first who will blow and really upset 😅 she totally not understand what a 100% European woman doing on a ASIAN fashion show?!🤔😮 Really not understand 😅 so we are on Japanese side too😅as person who lived in Asia, I'm especially confused how it's even comes to her mid 😅
As an European In Japan seeing so many extremely beautiful woman just walking the streets or working here I don't understand why she was chosen in first place because she just cannot compare to them. Didn't ment to be rude just stated the fact.
100% agree. I think in any big city she'd just be average, and I've been to Tokyo and there's no shortage of women there just walking around who are way more attractive than she is. Her win was a complete farce.
She was raised there, speaks the language fluently and is a citizen. If she was black and did the exact same thing, her race wouldn't even be a part of the conversation, and you certainly wouldn't be comparing Japanese vs. African beauty. What she did was wrong but there's no reason to make a statement of how she should be native Japanese - by that logic, no other race should ever represent a European country aside from white women... but you wouldn't like that, would you?
@@tisbutascratch2045 when was the first black miss USA crowned? 1983. When did slavery end and blacks were us citizens? 1863. But you say it’s the same because you are an anti-black racist. Now back to the story about Eurocentric false beauty standards.
@@tisbutascratch2045 Ummm the Rest of the World Wouldn’t Mind if Miss Norway Miss Belgium is a White Person 😂 It’s like Saying an East Asian winning Miss Nigeria Miss Haiti the Riot and Destruction that would happen lol! It should’ve been a Native Japanese only!
@@Americansikkunt no matter what country you live in, any foreigner can win. do you really think that this is the only case in history?😂 the most beautiful and convincing one wins
People are assuming the married man in question was one of the judges. That was never said in this video and that's probably why he wasn't mentioned in a video about Ms. Japan.
So, if she’s having an affair with a married man judge or not she should receive the consequences of that, this is why women shouldn’t act like such hos in this world as they do now
What a joke. She officially became a Japanese citizen in 2022 and by 2023 she was the most beautiful woman in Japan. WTF? Indigenous Japanese women are gorgeous. How did Japan allow this to happen?
@@marcjanverdelantar9605 most likely those men who say that black beauty isn't beauty, they certainly have not seen pretty black girls. If any of them did, their jaws would open but they would never close it after. I am an Asian but I do not know if there are such standards. Japan is just a country in Asia. There are ebony women in Asia too if one researches well enough
@@marcjanverdelantar9605 I don't know how we, the Asians prioritize fair skin, may be a portion of us but the girlfriends & wives of my childhood classmates will prove ya wrong 😂 I speak of what I see around me, the group of people who like dark skin & the group that likes fair skin are both universal to all nations. This is not specific in Asia
I don't know how her performance was but good God I've seen 10 times more beautiful and graceful Japanese women who embody their country n culture so much better.
The amount of grotesque, stupid, ignorant comments about “real Japanese” (made by mostly by what I’m assuming are not even Japanese) or have any knowledge about the makeup or the problematic history about purity and ethnicity in Japan and what defines identity is just plain depressing. Thanks BBC for reminding me that we are in fact reversing in intelligence… First this man was one of many judges. So unless he was the only Judge or strong armed or manipulated the rest his vote did not erase the other scores… Secondly, Japan is made up of several ethnicities. Is “real Japan” Okinawan/Ryukyuan? Is it Ainu? Or those hyphenated Japanese like Japanese-Koreans who lived in Japan for generations (who don’t even speak Korean?!?) like the Japanese Royal family who are predominantly ethnically Korean or even descendants of groups who like the Jews saved from China during world war 2?!? Or someone like her who has lived in Japan their entire life? What does it mean to be say “Real” anything? Real American when you are not a member of the indigenous first inhabitants? Even indigenous Americans came in waves… over thousands of years… Citizenship, nationality and ethnicity and shared cultural values are all equally valid ways to “belong” anywhere and not someone gross who thinks they can eyeball someone’s identity as long as it measures up to their ignorance and stereotypes. To have such ugly ideas about humanity is the real beauty contest. Regarding any two adults having a consenting relationship. Again “he who is without sin cast the first” vote…cause the only pageant I see anyone here winning is top hypocrite.
Its corrupt win because apparently the affair man she got with is one of the judge, not sure if thats true. But it also show how screwed up asian beauty standard, especially Japan's is. All the other Japanese women seen in this video are beautiful, but their beauty standard is strict. While she do meet them, she doesn't have the best looking face. The lips didn't help her case and i don't understand why she didn't just change her nose instead, she look stunning from the front (and with filter!), but her nose looks funny from the side, its crooked and big. And when she grins without filter she looks unhinged.
I don't care about her speaking Japanese, being Japanese enough, raised in Japan etc. My grip is how can they select her to win as the most beautiful!? Are they freaking blind???
@@princessgumbo Yes. Only those who belong to the native ethnic population of a country should be competing in such events, to represent the beauty of that specific ethnic group. Otherwise, wtf is the point of it all, if an European wins the title of "miss Japan."
@@princessgumbothen explain to me what is the point of international beauty pagents if anyone can represent any country? Like whats the point of differentiating Ukraine, Japan or Italy if it can be anyone?
@@princessgumbo I mean Europeans were probably hurt inside but they are so afraid of speaking out to stay politaclly correct. And speaking against black people would mean racist in any context nowadays so🤷🏻♀️
ya i actually agree with this one, miss japan should at least be part Japanese ethnically. i just went to japan, it’s 98% Japanese ethnically. if it were america, no problem, we are a giant melting pot of people. but japan is not. there are so many beautiful japanese women too like walking down the street there i saw girls who looked like supermodels on every corner. weird asf glad she had to give it back
If the situation was reversed, say in America, an Asian woman(not half or Caucasian) was selected to represent US as Miss America, she’s born and raised in America, I doubt that she will even be chosen cause though America is a melting pot, there are some underlying issues…
That's kind of impossible, then you have to start defining what DNA markers define a person as Japanese, and it will quickly get out of hand, as the most Japanese descended from immigrants from the continent in the 6th century. So probably the best they can do is maybe require one to be born within the borders of Japan or have at least one parent who was Japanese citizen at the time of the birth... which will also have exceptions as there had been fully Japanese national football team player who was born in the US or would exclude kids of parents who retain Korean citizenship etc... So probably the citizenship requirement of the contestants is fine, but the pageant should at least tell the contestants to not sleep with the judges, maybe.
You would not keep this energy for any other place on the planet. Imagine if we say asians cant be Miss America, or only Indigenous Americans. Or that you needed to prove you were ethically Germany to be Miss Germany. Bizarre race realism shit happening
To be honest, I would never ever even consider participating when I don't have Japanese origin. I would far be too humble. With that dirt on your heels, too. People always find out if something isn't right nowadays.
Japan is a free country. She came as a child. Shes Japanese. What would you say to a Japanese woman who came to the US when she was five? Can she participate in Miss America?
I agree with your sentiment and disagree with the comments underneath--- like yes it's fine and dandy but she doesn't fit the beauty standards in Japan NEVERMIND her dirty laundry. Japan is a very homogeneous unlike in the West where we celebrate different cultures etc (which... I kinda digress with how racist everyone has been since 2016 and even before that but we don't talk about Bruno and that's not what we're talking about 😊)
@@marydotjpeg Exactly, and the difference in phenotype + the relation does give unfair bias advantage to the foreigner. Plus being nationally japanese isn't the same as being ethnically japanese. People tend to mix up the 2 a lot and in other context, people also mix up culture and religion with ethnicity and nationality. Given this specific context, it does send the wrong message of "if you want to be beautiful, you have to fit eurocentric norms" and this creates self hate. Plus everyone traveling to japan, and even people outside of japan, we've all seen how beautiful japanese women are and can 100% agree that subjectively, you can find much better looking japanese women that can fit the criterias.
When she was a university student, she apparently discriminated against and ridiculed women with disabilities in public. Beauty pageant judges could not judge the beauty of the heart.
duh? about a WHITE woman representing Japan? HELLO our races could not be more different from each other! Get the f out of our asian spaces!@@GoogleAreEnemyCombatants
The affairs made it obviously not right and the fact she doesn't represent japanese demographic. All if this feels quite disingenuous. There are many better looking japanese women and this just feel biased. I think every country should have their phenotype represented. Mostly when it comes to a grant title such as miss JAPAN. The US is an exception since it wasn't necessarily the land of common ancestors, it was just europeans that came there very recently and then many immigrants/minorities came there, making it a melting pot, which in US case would make sense. Even the US boast about it being a melting pot, which would be part of US identity. I find a lot of people tend to mix up nationality, ethnicity, culture, phenotype and religion together. All those things are part of one's identity, but they are all different things. Even if someone is born in japan, it doesn't make them japanese by ethnicity, unless one or both of their parents are japanese which would make them japanese or half japanese. If a black or white person goes to japan and get a japanese citizenship, they would be considered as nationally japanese by citizenship, not ethnically. Same case for if a white couple makes a baby and the baby is born in japan, it doesn't make the baby ethnically japanese, they are still white phenotypically. A title such as miss Japan is made to represent the people of japan.
A lot of miss (country) winners don’t have heritage in the country that they win it in. The have been a lot of black girls recently winning in European countries that have no heritage there. Are you against that as well?
@@__Ess oh you mean Despicable Me. But Steve Carell played Gru. He must've meant the other female characters then. Otherwise if this is joke, i don't get it.😂
No i agree, it feels weird to look at Miss Africa, Miss Japan, or Miss India and the winners are all 3 just mixed around Heritage being treated like trading cards is weird
@@cool3884Naw, the brain likes nicotine, which is why smoking continues despite being harmful. Beauty contest are just a specific category of beauty that doesn’t connect with everyone. The two aren’t related comparably.
@@sihr07 yes he should as well. The point in the video was that SHE apologized to people but didn’t mention his wife. Of course he should. Stop with the opportunity to call someone a name. You have no idea who I am or what I’m about. All I know about you is that you’re quick to judge.
@@tna2me197 the wife said she tried to set up a meeting with Carolina but she said she didn't want to meet up with her. She said they were both pressuring her to get a divorce & she ended up being depressed & having some mental health issues.
@@onlinme7884 oh god... I can't believe I'm having to explain how pageants work. Yes, physical beauty is part of it, but they also judge you on posture, how you look wearing various outfits, and your answers to multiple questions. In brief: you don't have to be the most physically beautiful person there to win. Personally, I think they're hideous examples of patriarchal oppression, but that's neither here nor there.
People really need to keep in mind that the biggest score in the pageant is how much money you raised for charity, not your looks, charisma, or talent.
That could explain a lot - as I’ve never seen a more averaging-looking “beauty” pageant winner. When watching this video I was surprised that in a country with as many beautiful women as Japan has that she had somehow won.
As a Ukrainian - that’s disgusting. She wouldn’t not even apply for that competition!! I do not respect that. Who allowed her being there as well??? She can apply and do that in Ukraine between Ukrainian women.
So what? Should Asian people living in European countries not be allowed to compete in beauty pageants? Miss Japan needs to be a Japanese national, not ethnically Japanese. And she is a Japanese national.
@@chansantawisuk only 1 contestant was of Ukrainian descent. And you do realize that there are many Ukrainians living in Russia, right? There are Russian citizens of Ukrainian descent. They have every right to be Miss. Russia. Don't confuse ethnicity and nationality. In regards to nationality, this woman is just as Japanese as any other Japanese person.
@chansantawisuk were all of the contestants for Miss Japan of Ukrainian descent? I don't think so. So that's a dumb comparison. But if you are a Nigerian citizen, you should be allowed to compete for Miss. Nigeria regardless of your ethnicity. Nationality trumps ethnicity. Most Americans are White. Does that mean that someone who was born in Mexico but who is now a US citizen shouldn't be Miss. America?
Was there a cheating clause to the contest? People didn’t want her for there own reasons. And a grand excuse fell on their lap. A married model desecrating her marriage, you think her competitors have been so behaved? Maybe. White woman be different.
@redg2197 does it really matter where she was born though if she doesn't remember that country? If I was born in England and moved to America when I was a toddler and never went back to England I'd consider myself American. I'd have no real ties to the other country.
She admitted to having an affair with a Japanese doctor in her latest Instagram post. However, she left only a few good comments and closed the comment section. You've never regretted it.
@@Celephinn a woman winning a pageant while sleeping with 1 of the judges is massively dishonest. An that's before we get to the fact that she's white.
Where I come from we have different words… they have the rep they do literally anything for money and I had a best friend to prove it. Like anything even with things that go out of the body
Since nobody has the balls to say that: she shouldn’t have been crowned at all, not because she isn’t Japanese, not because she cheated to get it, but because she simply isn’t that pretty in the first place. Don’t get me wrong, first of all two previous reasons are super valid and I agree with them, and second I don’t think she’s ugly, she’s just not the „miss of the country” kind of pretty. Also she looks like she had some plastic surgery done, if that’s not cheating then I don’t know what is
She’s lived there since she was 5 and is a Japanese citizen. Do you say that about the children of the parents who illegally crossed into America aka ‘anker babies’?
@@user-wj9jm1ox8ibecause this event would be shown in public and on tv, and it shows that she is not ashamed of the affair, sees the wife as insignificant, even when she has been told off by the wife before.
@@user-wj9jm1ox8i what they mean is, the public backlash obviously indicates the Japanese people think she is not morally fit to become their potential representative, which she doesn’t think so, evident by her participating in the beauty pageant .
Why not? They all live, work and contribute to their country? Why shouldn't they be given the chance to represent the country? Are native americans supposed to be barred from pageants and such because they are a small fraction of the population in the US,
@@luisurdiales3091Well idk, it’s nuanced. If some blonde Danish girl moved to Kenya when she was 5, would you object to her winning Ms Kenya, or maybe being crowned Ms Africa? Maybe not, but I can see how Kenyans could take issue.
@@luisurdiales3091 this isn't as simple as a civics lesson. There's the history and demographic of a country to consider when declaring a person to be the face of country's beauty. It also sends a terrible message to girls and women when someone of an unattainable beauty is presented as the ideal. Sure, we could just throw away the whole pageant as politics, because it is, but you cannot compare the US to Japan. You'd be comparing apples to oranges.
She even taking part in the contest is unfair and offensive to Japanese women. It's ridiculous choosing somebody from another race to be miss Japan. It's like choosing an alien from Mars to be miss planet Earth!
They've already shown they don't care about where the winner is from. An Iranian woman won miss Germany, at least they're doing it to other places and not just Europe lol
I think this should be about Asian beauty. So many models in Japan too. I'm not Asian, but I think this is absurd. It's like saying to Asian women: "This girl that looks like Shreck is better looking that all Asians".
@@Sunshine_Daydream222get education about transgender people. Trans Woman has the same amount or less of testosterone as a biological woman. I ask you, if a woman is born XXY she shouldn't run for miss... Because she has a recessive Y male chromosome? If a man is born with penis and internal uterus or ovaries, yes some men have residual uterus and discover it only when treating other diseases like tumors... This man cannot run for mister?
@@mynamo12miss universe isn’t transgender. There isn’t anything wrong with that, but haters spread that as if it discredits her. You can look it up her name is Sheynnis Palacios
Miss Japan should have been Japanese! And the crown shouldn't be vacant! It should go to the runner up which in truth would have been the ACTUAL Miss Japan!
She is Japanese. Did you miss the part where she is a citizen? Do you mean that only one ethnicity can represent a multi-ethnic country in their beauty pagents?
@@Paulblartloverdude, no. She’s a Japanese citizen, if they’re a citizen of the country they have just as much right to win as anyone else that’s from the country
@@Yuki-fm6puwell, I think they are very upset… if the Japanese organization keeps on doing that, it will be hard and lessen opportunity for the Japanese women to join and to compete in international pageants because the judges prefer Western...
It's a bit ridiculous that in so many countries this year the beauty parents were won by Ukrainian girls. I understand sympathy but this was pretty silly.
She’s not that pretty. Sorry to disappoint you. Her proportion is off, her features are exaggerated and she’s not got a good heart. Her lack of support for a Japanese woman to win the title in a Japanese beauty contest shows her heart. She not pretty on the inside either.
I’ve read the comments made by the wife’s friends and family and it was terrible. This woman continued to sleep with the wife’s husband and declined to have a talk because it has no merits for her. And apparently the wife got depression and the son (still a kid) was crying. But this lady demanded they divorce so she can run in the contest without any worries. 😅 To be honest, there are multiple Miss Japan contests and the one she won doesn’t have global rounds like Miss Universe Japan etc and run by a shady company who kept on protecting her despite the evidence. That’s why many speculate she won not because of her beauty but for her connections.(The plastic surgeon she was having an affair with had been a judge for multiple beauty pageants and had connections.)
I mean it's also conceivable that the Wada pageant chose her deliberately because it would cause controversy and bring them attention, but they ended up biting off more than they could chew. Then when her affair came out they would have realized they fucked up and just tried to ignore it and hope it'd go away, since even in the West it's very rare for corporations to publicly admit wrongdoing.
How about the man should stop sleeping with her. Why is the man never held accountable. So if this girl is out of the way he'd have no problem sleeping with another girl that might cross his path. So he is the problem...He should get his morals straight
Nah in Miss World held this March, there was Miss Australia whose ethnicity was Indian but she had been born and living in Australia EDIT: Sorry it was New Zealand not Australia
Japan had it out for this woman because a certain percentage of the society didn't think she should represent Japan. I agree she shouldn't have won, Japan is such a homogeneous society that it doesn't make sense for her to have won BUT they were looking for a way to take her down and they didn't let up until she was.
They, the married man, and her were equally wrong. If she didn't know it in the first place....but continuing after knowing it, is so wrong. And speaking Japanese and being a citizen is normal to compete at all, isn't it ? And the competition itself ? It's quite arrogant to take a couple of women and in the end claiming someone's the most beautiful. Beauty is relative and lies in the eye of the beholder. That also goes for Miss this, Miss that etc.
I believe this contest in particular is about Japanese citizens rather than ethnic Japanese women. If it was, they would let members of the Japanese diaspora compete, but they didn’t. Frankly if they did that would have been alright, but in this case it isn’t really an issue. Also, she was raised almost all of her life in Japan. Id trust a Japanese person more about her identity as “Japanese” more than a random TH-cam comment.
Only giving it up after being exposed about something unrelated just shows how much she really cared about japanese peoples anger. She didnt. She doesn't deserve pity.
Is Japanese culture generally opposed to affairs? No. So why do they pretend to be judgmental only now, when it supports someone's racial-purity campaign? Nitpicking over her personal life is not something she owes them anything for, and she only shows how Japanese she is at heart, by taking it seriously and apologising when she is not wrong.
I think it’s totally fine to use Japanese citizens from any ethnicity…. But have you ever seen the girls in Ukraine? This girl is average. There are tons of much more beautiful girls in Ukraine.
It's like whales are the biggest fish in the world even though whales are not actually fish, but marine mammals. It's very ironic that the biggest animal in the ocean is not a fish... even though the ocean is the natural habitat of fish.
With all the beautiful Japanese girl they voted for an average girl to be their Miss? In Europe competition she will never ever pass the preliminary stage to be in the round of one competition.
Yea, that's why phenotype matters. In this specific context of a homogenous society, many foreigners know about the advantage of looking different + with a lighter skin tone. People in most homogenous societies are intrigued by foreigners appearance since it's uncommon. In this specific context/scenario, this whole situation gives off the message of "eurocentric features are the norms, so the be beautiful, you have to look white european". Many people who traveled to Japan knows that many women there are subjectively a lot more attractive than her, despite her being beautiful too. Plus, she also lives in japan and probably knows about those type of privileg, added with the whole mess about the sexual relation with one of the judge.
She passed because she actually matches japanese beauty ideals, which you have no idea of. Many things westerners deem ugly is cute or pretty in japan.
@@mekabare she passed because she had connections and personal affairs with one of the judge and later on admit she knew he was married. We all seen japanese women and subjectively speaking, they are really attractive compared to her.
@@mekabareshe tries to imitate asian women like most other insecure white woman, but honestly they should be insecure. Asian girls are goddesses at the top of the totem pole and she is white woman who is at the w Bottom of the woman totem pole
As an ethnically Japanese myself living in Japan, she won because she is a minority in Japanese society, kind of political correctness thing among the judges which is getting to far and no one can say it aloud nowadays.. Majority of Japanese won’t think of her as a Japanese even though she obtained the Japanese passport 2022. Japan is a homogenous country which makes a whole lot of difference from the rest of the world. Maybe it will change in the future but right now status quo.
Yea, context matters. Also the fact that she had those affairs with the judge makes this whole thing feeling quite disingenuous. If you have a homogenuous society with many beautiful women and having a european women representing your country's beauty? Like common, what the ... That's the thing people don't get, people tend to mix up ethnicity and nationality. Even if japan was more diversed, I wouldn't consider her japanese. In the case of US, they boast themselves being a melting pot, which is different. In this specific context, it can deliver the wrong message of "to be beautiful, you have to have eurocentric features"
I'm so surprised she was allowed to participate in the first place?? I'm an American but like...how is she winning over all the actual pretty girls lol???
Yeah that's what I thought. I was surprised she even competed knowing that the majority of Japanese people have gripes about foreigners claiming to be Japanese. Shit you can be born there and not be Japanese if you're ancestry is elsewhere. That's just the culture.
It’s always the woman who takes the blame…what about the married man, who decided to cheat on his wife? She was single and did not cheat on anyone at least. I bet this dude was not fired from his job and his crown was not revoked
That’s with almost everything in society. If a woman abandons her children for example she will be told awful things and have people more harsher on the woman vs a man who abandons his child. This is like that example.
Look at the comments, dude... They don't even care that she grew up all her life in Japan. They call her ugly or average. Like their personal opinion of beauty is the most important thing in the Peagean word. How many years does this competition last? One time, a foreign looking girl was chosen, and suddenly, they all got angry, lol, so of course, she resigned. We have black players in our basketball team representation (in my 99% white country), and I never said they were not from my country :/ Weird standards.
But she KNEW he was married and had a FAMILY. Instead of telling the wife, she chose to continue the relationship knowing it was wrong OR she knew from the beginning and just didn't care. She didn't cheat on anyone, that's true. BUT she has horrible morals clearly. She is still wrong for doing so. She needs to take several seats.
@@neko7606I would agree, except for the fact that to me it seems like she was picked for being white, not necessarily beautiful. She's very pretty, but if she represented any Western country she wouldn't be picked for Miss anything.
@@neko7606 I agree sleeping with the judges was part of it. And I also agree they have a different standard of beauty, but part of that standard is the weird focus on white features. Korea and Japan are known for skin-bleaching products and eyelid surgery which makes them look more white.
@@neko7606 You make a point with the skintone, which I will take back since after some more research it does lean more towards ancient culture than anything else. But the eyelid surgery is specifically correlated with the popularization of western beauty amongst Asian women. Many Japanese people have double eyelids but it wasn't something specifically sought after until the exposure to Western folks. It would be Eurocentric to assume the majority of Japanese women want to look white, but it would be naive to not see how Western movies, shows, culture, etc. have had their influence on Eastern beauty standards. In the same turn, there has been an influx of women and men trying to look more Korean due to Korean beauty and Kpop influence. I'm not trying to say everyone wants to look white, but you can still see some of the effects of putting white beauty on a pedestal.
@@neko7606 Then you can agree by that logic that there may be some appeal to (presumably) Japanese judges to pick someone who doesn't look like the other Japanese contestants, while still being able to naturally perform Japanese culture and characteristics?
Even as someone who thinks it’s completely fine to favour European beauty standards if that’s your preference, and who personally has that preference, I do think the representatives of each nation’s beauty should have features characteristic of that nation
@@Celephinn Of course I also think European representatives should look not only characteristically European, but also somewhat characteristic of their specific European nation
The Miss Germany situation is even worse. Picking a 39-year-old Iranian woman instead of a young beautiful German. I get that they wanted to make pro-immigrant propaganda, but they could've at least picked a young and pretty Turkish, Syrian, or Iranian girl.
What made me most disappointed was that Karolina ishii was clearly unfit to participate based on her ethics alone. This pageant is 'supposed to' be about women supporting women. Celebrating women. She does not understand that belief so she should have not participated in the first place. Secondly, she has been living in Japan since the age of 4. She should know what happens when the Japanese media reveals an affair. Therefore she should have ended the affair if she truly wanted to participate. The doctor (age 47) initially lied to her about being a divorced man when they first met but she later revealed that when they met again he was honest about having a wife and kid. However she decided to keep seeing him.* But you have to have some dignity to not be a mistress. Who knows how many more lies he was saying to keep her close. He's also 21 years older than her and four years older than her mom (age 43, teen mom). Her mom's name is Lana and she recently won Best Body Japan 2023 last Fall/Winter. The doctor and Karolina have also participated in the competition and won in categories. Therefore, they should already know how long it takes to prepare to compete. Some of these women prepared since childhood to become Miss Japan and compete in Miss World/Universe. Wasting the other pageant participant's time and resources only for the crown to be vacant this year is selfish. 😢 This could have all been avoided if she didn't participate. Clean your dirty laundry before you hang it out to dry in public. Add: Initially I tried to think maybe Karolina was a bit shocked by the marriage but turns out the doctor's wife even tried to stop them. Though they continued.
@@sanagul-origin5412its not that it's just the way culture is in Japan etc AINT no way that's NOT a huge scandal... It sucks that the crown can't just go to the runner up. Going into something that puts the public spot light on you YOU SHOULD ATLEAST keep your act together 😭
@@sanagul-origin5412 It's really stupid to label their whole relation and reduce it to simply personal business in this specific context. The relation she had with the judge affects the judge mentally, or, they could've both benefited of each other's relation. Thing is, sexual relation does have effect psychologically.
How insulting to all these beautiful Japanese contestants that missed out on the opportunities being a pageant winner gets. Pageant careers are very short and this Ukrainian woman’s scandal wasted a year for the Japanese ladies
She was born and raised there, she speaks fluently and has lived most of her life there She is Japanese Would a Japanese American who mever stepped foot in Japan would be better?
@@Riler-uc3mushe was born in Ukraine not Japan. She just gave Japan a bad name because of her scandal. She’s just naturalized and only recently was naturalized. I don’t think she spent the rest of her life without a country citizen before being naturalized
I don’t understand how a European born woman who doesn’t have Japanese blood, represent the beauty of a country from a different continent? I agree with the Japanese people here as they have their own unique charms like every other country, but “Miss Japan” has the charm of a EUROPEAN woman. No plastic surgery (or lip injections) can make her look Japanese or even Asian in general. It woukd be more acceptable if you were born in that country and your family has a long history in that country. For example an African-American woman in the US would still be valid to represent the USA’s beauty as her family has had a long history in that country and she was also born there.
I get what you mean. For Japan I feel they should be born there or be part Japanese if they are mixed. America is a multi-ethnic country filled with diversity which I’m very thankful for that. And also America shouldn’t be standardized as European. And most black people have 500 years of history in the USA and help built it so absolutely their beauty should be represented.
@@apollo1694 I identify as rich, but people can't accept that ;( Now I identify as helicopter but apprently I can't control it, is there something wrong with me? I think what's going on is you mix up nationality and ethnicity
No, she didn’t give it up all because of a “tabloid scoop”. She gave it up because she compromised her own integrity by lying that she didn’t know the man she was having an affair with was married. The fact that transgression and her lack of integrity were brought to light was not the cause of her downfall, ultimately her own actions were. Let’s not try to paint her as a victim. Responsibility is also a feature of empowerment. She did it, she owns it.
Did she also own the fact that the married man she slept with was also a judge? Or was that missing in between? There's no way in Hell that you wouldn't know who the judges are at The Miss Japan competition.
@@CellarDoorPoet She got with a man she knew was married, any normal human being would consider her morally in the wrong. Neither committed a legal wrong so I do not understand how you can judge the man alone without being a simp, ultra feminist or misogynist.
@@tylerellis9097 the man entered a moral contract with his wife when he married her. something along the lines of „to honor, in good and bad times“ yada yada. The pageant girl did not give a promise to anyone. So, the only people that do not understand that he is to blame and hold her as accountable as him are misogynistic incels that think they can rule over woman.
I mean fair enough about the affair, but man, people really are being racist about this huh. Imagine if a British or American woman who had immigrated to the country at an older age won the pageant and people were saying she wasn’t _______. That would be racist, just like this is
It's always double standards. If it happens in the US, UK or other countries for ecample, where a person who immigrated from say Vietnam and is now a citizen and win became miss of that country, nobody would be saying "she shouldn't have it bcoz she doesn't look like us" etc without being called racists.
Why is the title vacant? They should let the first runner up have the title
I agree to an extent, however, them believing in luck may contribute to it. Who’s want to win due to bad luck?
i agree, thats pretty unfair to the other girls
@@notinuse01111true… is not their fault why give them unfairly
I have mixed feelings… would *I* wanna be crowned only because the winner messed up?
The organizers and people who defended her want the spotlight on them to disappear. They insisted she didn't know he was married. But now, it has been revealed she knew all along. It's about saving as much face as possible, which is huge to Japanese. They know by next year, mostly people will have moved on to other drama, but if the crown passes to the runner up, they will continue to endure the shame all year.
The married man was a judge. Why does everyone leave that part out?
Was he? I can't find any evidence of that. Do you have a source I can look up?
Tat explains.
Coz shez just average looking
@@onlinme7884 it's just a malicious rumour, from what I can find out. I'm yet to see any evidence confirming it.
Not surprised by her win then
No, he was not. It was only said sometimes, that he was a plastic surgeon.
And also he confessed, that he didn't tell her, he was married.
After all of this, she herself asked judges to take her crown
You're missing the key part of the story... the married man was one of the pagent judges.
@kingfuqurmahmen6792 That's why she looks so pumped up and unnatural. She's not pretty at all! This is not beautiful for the Miss World pageant. And there was certainly nepotism in the selection for the most beautiful girl. All those Japanese women are much more beautiful than this Ukrainian woman.
@kingfuqurmahmen6792Possibly but he could be both. I doubt there's any professional pageant judges.
@@GhastlyCretin it actually takes years of training and in some Asian countries you’ll need a doctorate or masters to do pageantry judging.
Most don’t even make it passed “Hell week” when they start out and even those that make it go on to suffer PTSD later on in life.
The married man was a pageant judge but not the one she won. So not relevant.
He was not a judge for this pageant. He was a judge in 2023 for a pageant & some people even say it was a different one.
I think my local mcdonalds cashier could win this pagent
Hmmm
Let's make this a thing. Start a gofundme page etc.
As a Korean born in France, I can say many average European girls would be considered beautiful in east asia, especially the westernized/modernized countries.
You can tell by watching the ones who get most plastic surgery (it was more Japan before but Korean surpassed, just like on other issues like low birthrates)
If we consider orange most beautiful, an orange will be more popular in country of apple .
Every time I went to Korea as teenager, beauty standards were easier, I looked more mature and handsome until I go back to France .
Many plastic surgery clinics skyscraper in Seoul , skin whitening clinic, publicity is allowed as well.
Same with growth hormone treatment during childhood and teen years it's common in Korea (obsession with size/height)
I've never been in a place where people want to change so much as in. Korea .(Because I used to hang out with cool old people , it's only at 12 years old i really understood the problèm. Most situation was already existing in Japan (main influence on Korea in Americanisation/westernization) .
Less common in china but still exist.
In France it's not even imaginable to do plastic surgery at school , especially when teenager.
It didn't surprised me when I heard about these controversial things in Japan, cause it's easy to be a celebrity in asian for a white chick just by learning language. My mom explained me long time ago and i travel a lot so , corruption or not , it doesn't surprise me .
@@alex.l5732East Asians obsession with the “white body”. Round eyes, higher nose, narrower chin, taller and more muscular body, and of course, bigger b**bs, the more “white looking”, the more attractive. From movie stars to anime characters, all protagonists look like hybrid, instead of ordinary people on streets. It’s very common that an Asian woman married a white man, but the opposite is so rare. It’s because in finding mates, women select and men are to be selected. It’s very unpleasant, even disturbing to ponder over the implications of this phenomenon. I don’t understand why people who suffer from a deep sense of inferiority want to have children. Isn’t it selfish and even morally reprehensible?
Heeeey.
I’ll do it guys. I’ll be Miss Japan
Oh thank god. Ok well get on the next flight.
I got that. genius.
You're not Ukrainian enough
I will become They/Them Japan!
Japan has been saved.
That married man needs to be punished as well because he was the judge.
How? He was not given any awards or something that he could get back.
It is not crime to cheat.
Maybe his position as he broke integrity of competition if he was judjing her.
@@myentertainment55 Of course it would be his position as a judge that we're talking about. Of course, we know it's not a crime to cheat, but what does that have to do with anything? It's not like the Ukrainian woman is going to jail and we want the same for the judge...
No it's the woman's fault.
Women control access to sex
If it’s not a crime to cheat.. it should be.
Who else didn't know it's not a crime to cheat when you're married?
Why isn't the judge named? He orchestrated the whole thing and only the young woman is named and shown? His face and name should be included. It takes two to tango.
Because patriarchy is alive and well.
I can’t figure out why she’s in trouble. The married man made the immoral choice. I wonder about age difference too, people want to drag the kid through the mud but not a married adult parent who cheated on his spouse with a pageant Queen.
@@karenabrams8986bc they don’t want the woman to represent their country to be having affairs with married men lmao and then on top lying about it
@@karenabrams8986 Why are you infantilizing her? She's not a kid. Everyone in this situation are all adults and she knew the man was married. She and the cheating husband are willing participants. They're both bad, he's just worse.
@@karenabrams8986there are plenty of channels that explain laws and the way Japan works.
1 it is a highly conservative country(even though majority of them cheat on their spouses)
2 there are very strict laws about defamation of character, honor is a huge thing in Japan so even if harassed you are not allowed to mention their names at work, with anyone and in media, No matter how right you are. You will get SUED.
I’ve honestly seen so many prettier Japanese women.
Facts
No cap
true, the same with Germany where they put the girl from Iran… oh, but everyone was supporting her, so it’s very hypocrite from this society
She’s not even Japanese! Totally insulting.
... Who are actually Japanese. It's like an African winning miss Germany
The husband has a nerve to come out to protect the side chick when he never apologizes to the wife and kid.
Yeah gross. I'm glad the title was revoked. You can't reward people from ruining the lives of the wife and children
I don’t know to what extend, but cheating in Japan is not seen as a shameful thing as it is seen in the western world. Many Japanese women seem to be ok with it as long as there is no real love involved. At least that’s what I’ve seen online with interviews.
@@chelsey8737so why is the man not responsible
@@istanbuloskithen why did they revoke her title if it not seen that wrong
@@istanbuloskinot really ... cheating of any kind will result badly in Japan... Especially to those that are of celebrity status. There are actors and actresses that were never to be seen again because of the cheating scandal. This is confirmed by Haruka Nakagawa, an ex AKB48 and JKT48 member who's now working in Indonesia. She was quite surprised how both these types of scandals got different reactions in these two countries...
Her having an affair with the judge could be the reason why she became Miss Japan in the first place.
If he was the judge at the contest....😂😂😂😂😂
Or the west meddling in Japanese affair, promoting anything Ukro.
Most likely considering she isn't that pretty
@@CountryAndProudI think she is gorgeous but they do say beauty is in the eye of the beholder of course
Yea, she's western, not japanese. If it's another contest that not represents culture/country then it'll be okay. .but this?. If it's not because this scandal that made her win then people of japan is fucked to be brainwashed with westernization standard and lost their patriotism. I'm Asian, and I'll be mad if my country let foreigners win this kind of contest.
Those lip injections aren’t fooling anyone
Neither is the "female" thing.
I seen far prettier actually “Japanese” girls who should have won over this transplant.
@@JbethGirlTransphobe.
@@roxassora2706not relly, no one is afraid of trans to be called a transphobe, but there is no such things as LGBTQIA 😂
@@IlivebyGodfor3ver Except LGBTQIA+ people have existed for centuries. Rump Supporter.
The First Runner-up should have been crowned.
By definition, isn't there only one runner up?
@@joyfulzero853 By definition, you're right. It should be "runners-up". First and second runners-up are usually considered as-good-as the winner of pageants but not all three can be crowned. Hence the "fan favourite" vote I suppose. 🤝😊
Pageant organizers are massive hypocrites.
It's all politics. Practically everything is these days. Even sports and especially eurovision.
And the fact the judge isnt winner of any contestant, likely he would be moved to another job instead, privately. Like how female teachers caught sleeping with boys are quietly moved to another district instead of public news.
They blind 2😅😅because how😅
Hm, they don't receive any titles.
Why we should judje them as harshly?
Like.... Even considering non-japense for the title.
She first played a victim not knowing he was a married man. She was actually demanding him to leave his family and harassing his wife over a year. She returned the crown only because she got busted.
Please provide a source to what you said.
Don't make up random controversy without proving it with reliable sources. I could literally say she abused him to give her the crown during the affair too but I haven't backed it up, so why should it be taken as fact?
@@Nagvanshieuswhy don’t you do some research instead of asking for a link, in which can’t be shared through a comment section. Mind blowing, the laziness of people unwilling to do their own sourcing, and wanting someone to provide a source in a comment section.
Sometimes most beautiful people can have the ugliest character.
Sounds like she wanted him to make good on his empty promises. Why isn't his name being drug through the ringer?
I am Eastern European and I understand that Japanese people are upset! I would be too.
"would be..." why?
If you were a member of an insular-to-the-point-that-your-country's-population-is-isolating-itself-to-extinction ?
Why? Oh wait. Sorry you said you have learning difficulties and are poorly educated so that explains it. Poverty, poor education and low intelligence usually creates racism.
Why? She has spent all but the first 5 years of her life living & being raised in Japan. She's literally Japanese.
This is like saying only Mohawk/Sioux/Comanche/Pawnee/other Native American women are eligible to win the title of Ms. America.
Me too
I'm European, my mom too, when i tell her this story she says if something like this happened in our side story,she said she will be first who will blow and really upset 😅 she totally not understand what a 100% European woman doing on a ASIAN fashion show?!🤔😮 Really not understand 😅 so we are on Japanese side too😅as person who lived in Asia, I'm especially confused how it's even comes to her mid 😅
As an European In Japan seeing so many extremely beautiful woman just walking the streets or working here I don't understand why she was chosen in first place because she just cannot compare to them. Didn't ment to be rude just stated the fact.
Ur totally right...and in Europe there's beautiful women too...but this one shouldn't win miss Japan or miss Ukraine either, as she's not pretty.
@@NoeliaRuiz-ls8yw Maybe she's smart lol I dunno. She isn't that pretty yea.
100% agree. I think in any big city she'd just be average, and I've been to Tokyo and there's no shortage of women there just walking around who are way more attractive than she is. Her win was a complete farce.
…somebody has yellow fever
she had a fling with one of the judges
So ,there all these stunning Japanese women and they give her the crown ?
I’m speechless.
actually,the married man she had the affair with allegedly was one of the judges for the beauty pageant
She was raised there, speaks the language fluently and is a citizen. If she was black and did the exact same thing, her race wouldn't even be a part of the conversation, and you certainly wouldn't be comparing Japanese vs. African beauty. What she did was wrong but there's no reason to make a statement of how she should be native Japanese - by that logic, no other race should ever represent a European country aside from white women... but you wouldn't like that, would you?
@@tisbutascratch2045facts!
@@tisbutascratch2045 when was the first black miss USA crowned? 1983. When did slavery end and blacks were us citizens? 1863.
But you say it’s the same because you are an anti-black racist.
Now back to the story about Eurocentric false beauty standards.
@@tisbutascratch2045 Ummm the Rest of the World Wouldn’t Mind if Miss Norway Miss Belgium is a White Person 😂
It’s like Saying an East Asian winning Miss Nigeria Miss Haiti the Riot and Destruction that would happen lol!
It should’ve been a Native Japanese only!
She has several rich and powerful dads.
Lmfaoooo 🫠
“Ukraine”. Says it all.
@@Americansikkuntя тебе открою секрет,но мисс "любая страна" может победить иностранка, это не далеко не единственный случай в истории
@@goddess.in.infinity English, please
@@Americansikkunt no matter what country you live in, any foreigner can win. do you really think that this is the only case in history?😂 the most beautiful and convincing one wins
The judges need to give up their titles as well.
For what?😂 did they know she was having an affair with a married man?
Why’s that then
People are assuming the married man in question was one of the judges. That was never said in this video and that's probably why he wasn't mentioned in a video about Ms. Japan.
So, if she’s having an affair with a married man judge or not she should receive the consequences of that, this is why women shouldn’t act like such hos in this world as they do now
For what?
This is absurd! A non japan win miss japan. This multicultural world is not multicultural at all!
@@zacharias5476 yes. She is Turkey. The globalist elite are destroying the real diversity
@@zacharias5476a 39 year old mum. Jeez, the world is falling apart.
@@ericwinnert
👉🏽 *It gets worse.. look at the person who won for The Netherlands.. who was born as a Man!* 👈🏽
Double standards 😂😂
@@ncl2580👉🏽 *About what.. it's beyond ridiculous that these 🚺♀️✖✖ contests are being won👑 by people who didn't/ don't deserve it!* 👈🏽
What a joke. She officially became a Japanese citizen in 2022 and by 2023 she was the most beautiful woman in Japan. WTF? Indigenous Japanese women are gorgeous. How did Japan allow this to happen?
bribery .. :) cuz im being honest she is not that hot ..
she is average lol
Looks good because of the war. She’s not even pretty
I heard one of the judges of the contest was the man she had an affair with.😅
Maybe she had another affairs with refs🗿
Honestly, I wish they would replace all the judges.
Exactly.
All the judges should be women.
With ME! I'm the ONLY one capable of judging and then treating these women!
Shes jewish so dont count on honest media representation of the story
@@1Plebeiantreating?????
was this married man a judge on this competition?
Yup! And a big influence to the beauty pageant…
Why am I not surprised.. 🙄
A doctor
@@sentikalalongkumer2457 Apparently cosmetic surgeon.
maybe she got the lipfiller from him @@Nymeria0
As a black woman whom has never been to Japan, feels I should be Ms. Japan 😂😂😂😂
I'm amused by the comment but not completely sure why it is funny...
@@kabysummit5801I think cause black beauty isnt the beauty standard in asian countries😂
@@marcjanverdelantar9605 most likely those men who say that black beauty isn't beauty, they certainly have not seen pretty black girls. If any of them did, their jaws would open but they would never close it after. I am an Asian but I do not know if there are such standards. Japan is just a country in Asia. There are ebony women in Asia too if one researches well enough
@@recarunu868 its a cultural trend, when white countries obsess about tan its the opposite in asian countries obsessing about fair skin.
@@marcjanverdelantar9605 I don't know how we, the Asians prioritize fair skin, may be a portion of us but the girlfriends & wives of my childhood classmates will prove ya wrong 😂
I speak of what I see around me, the group of people who like dark skin & the group that likes fair skin are both universal to all nations. This is not specific in Asia
I don't know how her performance was but good God I've seen 10 times more beautiful and graceful Japanese women who embody their country n culture so much better.
Yeah why award the title to a Caucasian? No wonder the Japanese girls where at 11 in the jealousy, bitterness & indignancy scale. 🙂
ok weeb
It's cause the "married man" she was seeing was one of the pageant judges.
It sounds like one of the judges was very impressed by her performance
The amount of grotesque, stupid, ignorant comments about “real Japanese” (made by mostly by what I’m assuming are not even Japanese) or have any knowledge about the makeup or the problematic history about purity and ethnicity in Japan and what defines identity is just plain depressing. Thanks BBC for reminding me that we are in fact reversing in intelligence…
First this man was one of many judges. So unless he was the only Judge or strong armed or manipulated the rest his vote did not erase the other scores…
Secondly, Japan is made up of several ethnicities. Is “real Japan” Okinawan/Ryukyuan? Is it Ainu? Or those hyphenated Japanese like Japanese-Koreans who lived in Japan for generations (who don’t even speak Korean?!?) like the Japanese Royal family who are predominantly ethnically Korean or even descendants of groups who like the Jews saved from China during world war 2?!? Or someone like her who has lived in Japan their entire life?
What does it mean to be say “Real” anything? Real American when you are not a member of the indigenous first inhabitants? Even indigenous Americans came in waves… over thousands of years…
Citizenship, nationality and ethnicity and shared cultural values are all equally valid ways to “belong” anywhere and not someone gross who thinks they can eyeball someone’s identity as long as it measures up to their ignorance and stereotypes.
To have such ugly ideas about humanity is the real beauty contest.
Regarding any two adults having a consenting relationship. Again “he who is without sin cast the first” vote…cause the only pageant I see anyone here winning is top hypocrite.
As an Australian man living in Australia, I believe I should be given the vacant Miss Japan title. This is 2024 after all.
😂😂
If they don't, they are evil. You are beautiful and brave 😂
Only if you’ll wear a pretty dress with glitter! 😂😂😂
Stunning and brave! You slay Kween! 👏🏻
Stand up for your human rights king! You can be whoever you want to be in this world
the fact that mid looking white girl with botched lips was deemed to be better than all the other beautiful Japanese women is soul crushing
I have serious doubts that is an actual woman. The ears, mouth, jawline, face proportions, and collarbones/shoulders are those of a biological man.
Its corrupt win because apparently the affair man she got with is one of the judge, not sure if thats true. But it also show how screwed up asian beauty standard, especially Japan's is. All the other Japanese women seen in this video are beautiful, but their beauty standard is strict. While she do meet them, she doesn't have the best looking face. The lips didn't help her case and i don't understand why she didn't just change her nose instead, she look stunning from the front (and with filter!), but her nose looks funny from the side, its crooked and big. And when she grins without filter she looks unhinged.
@@jeanneann3545 that's brutal but true 😂
Mid looking 😂😂 TRUE!
She wouldn’t have won if she had entered a Ukrainian pageant. Her only chance was entering a Japanese one instead. Funny how this turned out 😂
And here they are okay with a man winning 'Miss Holland' like fr.
🤷🏽♀️ *E x a c t l y.. like what the actual F # C K ! ?*
if hes fabulous i dont see a problem calling him miss
With how protective some Japanese people can be over their culture and customs, I was shocked to hear a European woman win “Miss Japan”.
only because she was flirting with one of the Judges.
@@Ozymondias99 the one she ended up having an affair with? Yeah, the runner up deserves the title
hes not a judge@@Ozymondias99
@@Ozymondias99that's a lie. The person was not a judge but a doctor who had his own life.
Having an affair with a married man while KNOWING he’s married it’s disgusting
Actually, it's quite Japanese of her
does the man who chose to ge married knowing he was gonna cheat not get any flack
Sounds like my exgf
@@TinyBoxBin that's even more disgusting but the news is about the one who won miss japan so it's not that relevant in this context.
No, it’s Ukrainian standards! Ugh. You have no idea what you are talking about 🇺🇦
I don't care about her speaking Japanese, being Japanese enough, raised in Japan etc.
My grip is how can they select her to win as the most beautiful!? Are they freaking blind???
Bro 💯 I was thinkin the same thing 😂 guess beauty is subjective?
Her being white and Ukrainian might play a big role. There are many other girls walking the streets in Tokyo who are prettier than her.
I guess she wouldve slept with judges as well
Because they prefer western… and one of the judge is the man who she has relationship with
😂😂😂
Good, she didn’t deserve the title anyway
Why? Would you say the same thing about the black women winning in Europe ?
@@princessgumbo Yes. Only those who belong to the native ethnic population of a country should be competing in such events, to represent the beauty of that specific ethnic group. Otherwise, wtf is the point of it all, if an European wins the title of "miss Japan."
@@princessgumbothen explain to me what is the point of international beauty pagents if anyone can represent any country? Like whats the point of differentiating Ukraine, Japan or Italy if it can be anyone?
@zoech99 exactly. My point is that people were not frustrated when black women were winning in European countries
@@princessgumbo I mean Europeans were probably hurt inside but they are so afraid of speaking out to stay politaclly correct. And speaking against black people would mean racist in any context nowadays so🤷🏻♀️
ya i actually agree with this one, miss japan should at least be part Japanese ethnically. i just went to japan, it’s 98% Japanese ethnically.
if it were america, no problem, we are a giant melting pot of people. but japan is not. there are so many beautiful japanese women too like walking down the street there i saw girls who looked like supermodels on every corner.
weird asf glad she had to give it back
If the situation was reversed, say in America, an Asian woman(not half or Caucasian) was selected to represent US as Miss America, she’s born and raised in America, I doubt that she will even be chosen cause though America is a melting pot, there are some underlying issues…
I 100% agree
That's kind of impossible, then you have to start defining what DNA markers define a person as Japanese, and it will quickly get out of hand, as the most Japanese descended from immigrants from the continent in the 6th century. So probably the best they can do is maybe require one to be born within the borders of Japan or have at least one parent who was Japanese citizen at the time of the birth... which will also have exceptions as there had been fully Japanese national football team player who was born in the US or would exclude kids of parents who retain Korean citizenship etc... So probably the citizenship requirement of the contestants is fine, but the pageant should at least tell the contestants to not sleep with the judges, maybe.
Disagree. It’s not her fault she was chosen
You would not keep this energy for any other place on the planet. Imagine if we say asians cant be Miss America, or only Indigenous Americans. Or that you needed to prove you were ethically Germany to be Miss Germany. Bizarre race realism shit happening
To be honest, I would never ever even consider participating when I don't have Japanese origin. I would far be too humble. With that dirt on your heels, too. People always find out if something isn't right nowadays.
Japan is a free country. She came as a child. Shes Japanese.
What would you say to a Japanese woman who came to the US when she was five? Can she participate in Miss America?
I agree. If she wasn't from an European country would the sentiments be the same?
Brah…. She’s japansee. More from there than African Americans who have never been to Africa
I agree with your sentiment and disagree with the comments underneath--- like yes it's fine and dandy but she doesn't fit the beauty standards in Japan NEVERMIND her dirty laundry. Japan is a very homogeneous unlike in the West where we celebrate different cultures etc
(which... I kinda digress with how racist everyone has been since 2016 and even before that but we don't talk about Bruno and that's not what we're talking about 😊)
@@marydotjpeg Exactly, and the difference in phenotype + the relation does give unfair bias advantage to the foreigner. Plus being nationally japanese isn't the same as being ethnically japanese. People tend to mix up the 2 a lot and in other context, people also mix up culture and religion with ethnicity and nationality.
Given this specific context, it does send the wrong message of "if you want to be beautiful, you have to fit eurocentric norms" and this creates self hate. Plus everyone traveling to japan, and even people outside of japan, we've all seen how beautiful japanese women are and can 100% agree that subjectively, you can find much better looking japanese women that can fit the criterias.
When she was a university student, she apparently discriminated against and ridiculed women with disabilities in public. Beauty pageant judges could not judge the beauty of the heart.
Wow she sounds horrible
@@ComaLies225She's a typical Eastern European gold digging Sveta, really...
Not shocking but that should have disqualified her more than anything else, as a disabled person it’s exhausting how normalised it is to hate on us
Ukrainian what not a surprise!!!
@@iamjaqx do you believe every bad comment about Ukraine/Ukrainians? You're so naive
MOST BEAUTIFUL QUEEN
By eastern European standards she would never win the crown there
Yeah because she is a jew, not slavic.
Beauty standards differ by country
Even by asian beauty standards, she wouldnt win
@@random95725 but she did 😂
Agree! I am Asian and tbh she looks above the average but she is not that hood looking AT ALL!
They have every right to be upset.
About what?
@@GoogleAreEnemyCombatants that a racial minority won the beauty pageant.
duh? about a WHITE woman representing Japan? HELLO our races could not be more different from each other! Get the f out of our asian spaces!@@GoogleAreEnemyCombatants
The affairs made it obviously not right and the fact she doesn't represent japanese demographic. All if this feels quite disingenuous. There are many better looking japanese women and this just feel biased. I think every country should have their phenotype represented. Mostly when it comes to a grant title such as miss JAPAN.
The US is an exception since it wasn't necessarily the land of common ancestors, it was just europeans that came there very recently and then many immigrants/minorities came there, making it a melting pot, which in US case would make sense. Even the US boast about it being a melting pot, which would be part of US identity.
I find a lot of people tend to mix up nationality, ethnicity, culture, phenotype and religion together. All those things are part of one's identity, but they are all different things. Even if someone is born in japan, it doesn't make them japanese by ethnicity, unless one or both of their parents are japanese which would make them japanese or half japanese. If a black or white person goes to japan and get a japanese citizenship, they would be considered as nationally japanese by citizenship, not ethnically. Same case for if a white couple makes a baby and the baby is born in japan, it doesn't make the baby ethnically japanese, they are still white phenotypically. A title such as miss Japan is made to represent the people of japan.
@@KFC431she looks Japanese to me. I’m Russian and Ukrainians basically look same. And I tell you she has Japanese style and make up.
I'm not Japanese but I'd be super angry if someone not having any Japanese heritage won MISS JAPAN title.
A lot of miss (country) winners don’t have heritage in the country that they win it in. The have been a lot of black girls recently winning in European countries that have no heritage there. Are you against that as well?
Sounds hella racist.
Cultural appropriation... Insane media.... Period...🙄
@@Blakossyou're just as insane as the people calling MEN WOMEN!!!🙄🤦🏼♀️🤣😂
@@Blakoss yes I am
She’s one of my favorite actresses! Her portrayal of Gru was absolutely heartwarming!
😭😭😭😂
Who dafuq is "Gru"? 😂
@@elianmustafathe male character out of the minion films
@@__Ess oh you mean Despicable Me. But Steve Carell played Gru. He must've meant the other female characters then.
Otherwise if this is joke, i don't get it.😂
@elianmustafa 🧠🗑️
I still think a Japanese woman should have gotten that title..my opinion!
No i agree, it feels weird to look at Miss Africa, Miss Japan, or Miss India and the winners are all 3 just mixed around
Heritage being treated like trading cards is weird
@@ohmygodbecky6829But beauty pageants aren't weird at all. 😂
Miss Netherlands is often from a different race. When we want a blonde white girl to win… we’re racist.
Africa isn't a country
@@WasNiksIsNiksWordtNiks I don’t think it’s being racist..I think everyone should have they’re own representing where ever they come from!
Can't believe we are still having these pointless beauty pageants.
it's as pointless as cigarettes
@@cool3884Naw, the brain likes nicotine, which is why smoking continues despite being harmful. Beauty contest are just a specific category of beauty that doesn’t connect with everyone. The two aren’t related comparably.
@@justabearbrowsingyoutube4968cigarettes are just a specific category of addiction that doesn’t connect with everyone.
It’s still more meaningful than your lowly existence
Beauty?
How did she get the crown in the first place? 🤣🤣
its not who you know, its who you blow
Because she won
@@astroboirap yeah I heard that helps to win 😂
Another "affair".
Well the doctor she had an affair with was apparently one of the judges..
Weird time we live in.
Aaannnnd. Did she happen to apologize to the wife?
🙄 HE should apologize to his wife….Such a misogynistic view of the world, the husband has an affair and it is her who should apologize?
@@sihr07they both should!
@@sihr07 yes he should as well.
The point in the video was that SHE apologized to people but didn’t mention his wife. Of course he should.
Stop with the opportunity to call someone a name. You have no idea who I am or what I’m about. All I know about you is that you’re quick to judge.
@@tna2me197 'Quick to judge'....pots and kettles come to mind. You're judging the person featured in the video, aren't you?
@@tna2me197 the wife said she tried to set up a meeting with Carolina but she said she didn't want to meet up with her. She said they were both pressuring her to get a divorce & she ended up being depressed & having some mental health issues.
Imagine being BORN and RAISED in Japan, having morals and avoid lip fillers....only to lose the title of Miss Japan to this woman 🫠
😂😂😂
She Could fly Away with those ears.
Imagine not realising these pageants aren't just based on you face. 🤣
@@peterclarke7006they are actually based on how a person looks
@@onlinme7884 oh god... I can't believe I'm having to explain how pageants work.
Yes, physical beauty is part of it, but they also judge you on posture, how you look wearing various outfits, and your answers to multiple questions.
In brief: you don't have to be the most physically beautiful person there to win.
Personally, I think they're hideous examples of patriarchal oppression, but that's neither here nor there.
People really need to keep in mind that the biggest score in the pageant is how much money you raised for charity, not your looks, charisma, or talent.
how much dick you suck and where you come from 🤭
That could explain a lot - as I’ve never seen a more averaging-looking “beauty” pageant winner. When watching this video I was surprised that in a country with as many beautiful women as Japan has that she had somehow won.
Seems like you can buy a victory then?
@@joeterp5615not to mention leave it to the Slavic bimbo to fuck some women's husband. They never fail to do that. Slavic women are pieces of meat.
this just isn't true
As a Ukrainian - that’s disgusting. She wouldn’t not even apply for that competition!! I do not respect that. Who allowed her being there as well??? She can apply and do that in Ukraine between Ukrainian women.
I deeply appreciate honest Ukrainians just like you :)
My first reaction really was: "THAT MF AIN'T EVEN JAPANESE!!!" 😂😂😂
So what? Should Asian people living in European countries not be allowed to compete in beauty pageants? Miss Japan needs to be a Japanese national, not ethnically Japanese. And she is a Japanese national.
@@mikesiciliano210 If Nigeria had a beauty pageant and all the contestants are Chinese do you think it makes sense?
@@mikesiciliano210What? Thats like saying Miss Russia should allowed a Ukraine to represent. Or Miss Israel should allowed Palestine to represent.
@@chansantawisuk only 1 contestant was of Ukrainian descent. And you do realize that there are many Ukrainians living in Russia, right? There are Russian citizens of Ukrainian descent. They have every right to be Miss. Russia. Don't confuse ethnicity and nationality. In regards to nationality, this woman is just as Japanese as any other Japanese person.
@chansantawisuk were all of the contestants for Miss Japan of Ukrainian descent? I don't think so. So that's a dumb comparison. But if you are a Nigerian citizen, you should be allowed to compete for Miss. Nigeria regardless of your ethnicity. Nationality trumps ethnicity. Most Americans are White. Does that mean that someone who was born in Mexico but who is now a US citizen shouldn't be Miss. America?
It’s not because of the tabloid. It’s because of her actions.
Was there a cheating clause to the contest?
People didn’t want her for there own reasons.
And a grand excuse fell on their lap.
A married model desecrating her marriage, you think her competitors have been so behaved? Maybe.
White woman be different.
@@JackieAnderson17she wasn’t married - the MAN was. HE was the one desecrating his marriage vows.
In Japan, marriage is a sacred thing, don’t trash the other culture. Not everyone is on that Woke BS, most western states are nowadays.
@@jevgeniardassovhey hater… she WON fair and square. Whatever “she did” prior to this contest means nothing.
@@evansusmcshe is a Ukrainian Jew who had sex with a judge to receive the title of Miss JAPAN lmfao.
Tbh the fact she’s not Japanese and won the tittle is a bit strange, I would understand if she born and grew up there but she didn’t.
She did grow up there. She moved there as a child but only recently became a citizen.
She said she's lived there since she was a toddler
@redg2197 does it really matter where she was born though if she doesn't remember that country? If I was born in England and moved to America when I was a toddler and never went back to England I'd consider myself American. I'd have no real ties to the other country.
@redg2197 well legally she's a citizen of Japan
@@invaderrach315not represent the Japanese, shes not Japanese 😂
Lmao minnesota 5 is a Japanese 10😂
🤣
She admitted to having an affair with a Japanese doctor in her latest Instagram post.
However, she left only a few good comments and closed the comment section.
You've never regretted it.
She only admitted it when the news came out… the organization asked her before but she didn't admit it
@@ck-bs2ms 💯!!
She even went back to dating him like nothing happened!!@@ck-bs2ms
@@ck-bs2ms Yes she only admitted when she was backed into a corner. Cheap behavior.
Im not Japanese but I feel a high level of disrespect over this.
Go on, keep being an offended white girl.
Why?
@@Celephinn a woman winning a pageant while sleeping with 1 of the judges is massively dishonest. An that's before we get to the fact that she's white.
@@Celephinni think it’s the sentiment that “white beauty standards” are “still” being promoted as superior
She's Japanese, she grew up there and speaks the language
2022 citizenship
2023 miss japan
Here something is just abrupt
‘Moved to Japan when she was 5….’
@@jamestalbot1647Yet didn’t get her citizenship until 2022? Why?
@@Wndrlnd9 not my issue to know or need to know. Is her personal life
Here in Greece Ukranian women have a reputation as "Greek Man stealer"
P.s. the same applies to women from Russia, Georgia, etc..
Where I come from we have different words… they have the rep they do literally anything for money and I had a best friend to prove it. Like anything even with things that go out of the body
Since nobody has the balls to say that: she shouldn’t have been crowned at all, not because she isn’t Japanese, not because she cheated to get it, but because she simply isn’t that pretty in the first place. Don’t get me wrong, first of all two previous reasons are super valid and I agree with them, and second I don’t think she’s ugly, she’s just not the „miss of the country” kind of pretty. Also she looks like she had some plastic surgery done, if that’s not cheating then I don’t know what is
She wouldn't have won Miss Ukraine! Those women are stunning!
I am pretty sure that her looks is just below the average where she was originally from.
THANK YOU, finally! I came here to say that. Some many Ukrainian and Japanese women are more beautiful than her smh
As the saying goes "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"
Beauty standards change from culture to culture, it's not a uniform perception.
she definitely had some surgery done
Love how she’s only ashamed because she was found out and not because of the entire situation, including participating in the pageant.
Why should she be ashamed for participating?!
She’s lived there since she was 5 and is a Japanese citizen. Do you say that about the children of the parents who illegally crossed into America aka ‘anker babies’?
@@user-wj9jm1ox8ibecause this event would be shown in public and on tv, and it shows that she is not ashamed of the affair, sees the wife as insignificant, even when she has been told off by the wife before.
@@user-wj9jm1ox8i what they mean is, the public backlash obviously indicates the Japanese people think she is not morally fit to become their potential representative, which she doesn’t think so, evident by her participating in the beauty pageant .
huh??
For me the Miss of any country should represent the vast majority of the population.. Being the face for less than 10% of any country isn't fair
Why not? They all live, work and contribute to their country? Why shouldn't they be given the chance to represent the country?
Are native americans supposed to be barred from pageants and such because they are a small fraction of the population in the US,
Asians are a small minority in the US, are you saying Asians can never win Miss USA even if she was born and raised in the US?
@@luisurdiales3091this is a great point, and in the end it might just be different between Japan and the US
@@luisurdiales3091Well idk, it’s nuanced. If some blonde Danish girl moved to Kenya when she was 5, would you object to her winning Ms Kenya, or maybe being crowned Ms Africa? Maybe not, but I can see how Kenyans could take issue.
@@luisurdiales3091 this isn't as simple as a civics lesson. There's the history and demographic of a country to consider when declaring a person to be the face of country's beauty. It also sends a terrible message to girls and women when someone of an unattainable beauty is presented as the ideal.
Sure, we could just throw away the whole pageant as politics, because it is, but you cannot compare the US to Japan. You'd be comparing apples to oranges.
She even taking part in the contest is unfair and offensive to Japanese women. It's ridiculous choosing somebody from another race to be miss Japan. It's like choosing an alien from Mars to be miss planet Earth!
They've already shown they don't care about where the winner is from. An Iranian woman won miss Germany, at least they're doing it to other places and not just Europe lol
I think this should be about Asian beauty. So many models in Japan too. I'm not Asian, but I think this is absurd. It's like saying to Asian women: "This girl that looks like Shreck is better looking that all Asians".
She never should’ve been Miss Japan in the first place, it’s ridiculous.
I find it extremely ironic that people feel a Ukrainian woman can't be Miss Japan yet the Miss Universe winner was a biological male 😂
@@Sunshine_Daydream222get education about transgender people.
Trans Woman has the same amount or less of testosterone as a biological woman.
I ask you, if a woman is born XXY she shouldn't run for miss... Because she has a recessive Y male chromosome?
If a man is born with penis and internal uterus or ovaries, yes some men have residual uterus and discover it only when treating other diseases like tumors... This man cannot run for mister?
@@Sunshine_Daydream222I didn’t know that about miss universe, damn
@@Sunshine_Daydream222she’s not even Ukrainian she’s Jewish
@@mynamo12miss universe isn’t transgender. There isn’t anything wrong with that, but haters spread that as if it discredits her. You can look it up her name is Sheynnis Palacios
Shouldn’t the runner up get the title?
I think because of the huge scandal, they probably just want 2024’s Miss Japan story to die ASAP.
Miss Japan should have been Japanese!
And the crown shouldn't be vacant! It should go to the runner up which in truth would have been the ACTUAL Miss Japan!
She is Japanese. Did you miss the part where she is a citizen? Do you mean that only one ethnicity can represent a multi-ethnic country in their beauty pagents?
She is Japanese. You would say to a black Brit that they’re not British because of their race?
She’s lived in Japan since she was 5…. Stop being racist dude
@@jamestalbot1647still doesn't make her ethnically Japanese. At the very least contests should have to be born in Japan
@@Paulblartloverdude, no. She’s a Japanese citizen, if they’re a citizen of the country they have just as much right to win as anyone else that’s from the country
People shouldn't talk about her behind her back
The former miss Japan of Black-Japanese biracial was more beautiful.
I get the feeling that all woman beside real Japanese woman are winning that title
Ariana Miyamoto
@@NineDiamonta least she has some Japanese blood
@@NineDiamontthat's pretty racist
@@NineDiamont you're fucked up. She was born Japanese, and because she's part black she's not her own blood? Racist much?
日本人として、こんな茶番のような出来事を世界中に知られたくはありませんでした
Yo entiendo
秘密主義ってダメじゃない？
Nice joke from japan😂
日本人女性がもっと怒るべきだと思う
@@Yuki-fm6puwell, I think they are very upset… if the Japanese organization keeps on doing that, it will be hard and lessen opportunity for the Japanese women to join and to compete in international pageants because the judges prefer Western...
If I were Japanese I would be pissed about the fact she won that shit. Smh
I wouldn't lol
Miss Ireland 2021 was Nigerian. Gotta wonder if you would've been pissed about that...
It's a bit ridiculous that in so many countries this year the beauty parents were won by Ukrainian girls. I understand sympathy but this was pretty silly.
Guess who won Miss Germany....
True.
Theres like a million Japanese women I'd considered more beautiful than her just walking around, the fact she won, screams "fixed".
As an eastern european myself, let me tell you…just by going on a walk in the park you will find women just as beautiful as her.
Lots of big noses in your park, woodpeckers I assume.
She’s not that pretty. Sorry to disappoint you. Her proportion is off, her features are exaggerated and she’s not got a good heart. Her lack of support for a Japanese woman to win the title in a Japanese beauty contest shows her heart. She not pretty on the inside either.
she is 6/10 imo. prob. that park will have way more prettier women.
You right. Probably can find better looking female at the park of any Eastern European countries
Absolut corect i șaw her house its Like uddy the pecker :)))
Soooo.. Japanese people voted and expressed that one Ukrainian woman is more beautiful than all Japanese women
that's not a woman, IMO
@@JbethGirl lol I refrain from agreeing or disagreeing
@@JbethGirl I see, we have some transvestigators over here; I'm sure you can "always tell", right?
@@Sebastian_Terrazas"Only women I personally find attractive are women".
That fool 😂
Basically yes
I’ve read the comments made by the wife’s friends and family and it was terrible. This woman continued to sleep with the wife’s husband and declined to have a talk because it has no merits for her. And apparently the wife got depression and the son (still a kid) was crying. But this lady demanded they divorce so she can run in the contest without any worries. 😅 To be honest, there are multiple Miss Japan contests and the one she won doesn’t have global rounds like Miss Universe Japan etc and run by a shady company who kept on protecting her despite the evidence. That’s why many speculate she won not because of her beauty but for her connections.(The plastic surgeon she was having an affair with had been a judge for multiple beauty pageants and had connections.)
Meanwhile average Asian girl being so much prettier than average Caucasian... Japan really should be represented by someone with that type of beauty
I mean it's also conceivable that the Wada pageant chose her deliberately because it would cause controversy and bring them attention, but they ended up biting off more than they could chew. Then when her affair came out they would have realized they fucked up and just tried to ignore it and hope it'd go away, since even in the West it's very rare for corporations to publicly admit wrongdoing.
How about the man should stop sleeping with her. Why is the man never held accountable. So if this girl is out of the way he'd have no problem sleeping with another girl that might cross his path. So he is the problem...He should get his morals straight
@@tmule424 I wouldn't say Asians overall but Japanese are very pretty, also Russians.
Japanese are racist & very nationalistic. I never support them. You shouldn't either! It must end.
If you are going to represent your country on a world stage, you should be a native of that country.
Nah in Miss World held this March, there was Miss Australia whose ethnicity was Indian but she had been born and living in Australia EDIT: Sorry it was New Zealand not Australia
@@Mary-kv9sl born in the country she represented, that's what I said. I made no mention of ethnicity.
"I'm sorry for betraying you all"
And nobody considered it was the husband who had actually betrayed his wife?
Japan had it out for this woman because a certain percentage of the society didn't think she should represent Japan. I agree she shouldn't have won, Japan is such a homogeneous society that it doesn't make sense for her to have won BUT they were looking for a way to take her down and they didn't let up until she was.
the husband is not miss japan 😂
They, the married man, and her were equally wrong. If she didn't know it in the first place....but continuing after knowing it, is so wrong. And speaking Japanese and being a citizen is normal to compete at all, isn't it ? And the competition itself ? It's quite arrogant to take a couple of women and in the end claiming someone's the most beautiful. Beauty is relative and lies in the eye of the beholder. That also goes for Miss this, Miss that etc.
why do you act like those are mutually exclusive? of course both is true
they DID , thats why she was punished.
there is nothing they can do about the husband.
She shouldn't be miss japan anyway. Sorry not sorry.
"The most beautiful Japanese woman" isn't even Japanese
Go figure. SMDH.
I believe this contest in particular is about Japanese citizens rather than ethnic Japanese women. If it was, they would let members of the Japanese diaspora compete, but they didn’t. Frankly if they did that would have been alright, but in this case it isn’t really an issue. Also, she was raised almost all of her life in Japan. Id trust a Japanese person more about her identity as “Japanese” more than a random TH-cam comment.
she’s a citizen
@@pptenshi3900disapora deserve a chance but that woman is 100% ukranian
@@Mirage-pzshe is a jew
It’s not the real Miss Japan. It’s a private title made by a dubious company.
Only giving it up after being exposed about something unrelated just shows how much she really cared about japanese peoples anger. She didnt. She doesn't deserve pity.
Is Japanese culture generally opposed to affairs? No. So why do they pretend to be judgmental only now, when it supports someone's racial-purity campaign? Nitpicking over her personal life is not something she owes them anything for, and she only shows how Japanese she is at heart, by taking it seriously and apologising when she is not wrong.
I think it’s totally fine to use Japanese citizens from any ethnicity…. But have you ever seen the girls in Ukraine? This girl is average. There are tons of much more beautiful girls in Ukraine.
Not a girl, IMO.
It's like whales are the biggest fish in the world even though whales are not actually fish, but marine mammals. It's very ironic that the biggest animal in the ocean is not a fish... even though the ocean is the natural habitat of fish.
She's a beautiful Ukrainian to Japanese standards. Small face, sticky out ears. Ukrainian beauty standards obviously differ.
@@Okhariza_Fahriawaninteresting 🤔
Or Japan.
With all the beautiful Japanese girl they voted for an average girl to be their Miss?
In Europe competition she will never ever pass the preliminary stage to be in the round of one competition.
Yea, that's why phenotype matters. In this specific context of a homogenous society, many foreigners know about the advantage of looking different + with a lighter skin tone. People in most homogenous societies are intrigued by foreigners appearance since it's uncommon.
In this specific context/scenario, this whole situation gives off the message of "eurocentric features are the norms, so the be beautiful, you have to look white european". Many people who traveled to Japan knows that many women there are subjectively a lot more attractive than her, despite her being beautiful too.
Plus, she also lives in japan and probably knows about those type of privileg, added with the whole mess about the sexual relation with one of the judge.
She passed because she actually matches japanese beauty ideals, which you have no idea of. Many things westerners deem ugly is cute or pretty in japan.
@@mekabare she passed because she had connections and personal affairs with one of the judge and later on admit she knew he was married. We all seen japanese women and subjectively speaking, they are really attractive compared to her.
@@KFC431
And they aren't s**** either.
@@mekabareshe tries to imitate asian women like most other insecure white woman, but honestly they should be insecure. Asian girls are goddesses at the top of the totem pole and she is white woman who is at the w
Bottom of the woman totem pole
It is tricky isn’t it, when moral standards are subjective.
As an ethnically Japanese myself living in Japan,
she won because she is a minority in Japanese society, kind of political correctness thing among the judges which is getting to far and no one can say it aloud nowadays..
Majority of Japanese won’t think of her as a Japanese even though she obtained the Japanese passport 2022.
Japan is a homogenous country which makes a whole lot of difference from the rest of the world.
Maybe it will change in the future but right now status quo.
Yea, context matters. Also the fact that she had those affairs with the judge makes this whole thing feeling quite disingenuous.
If you have a homogenuous society with many beautiful women and having a european women representing your country's beauty? Like common, what the ...
That's the thing people don't get, people tend to mix up ethnicity and nationality. Even if japan was more diversed, I wouldn't consider her japanese. In the case of US, they boast themselves being a melting pot, which is different.
In this specific context, it can deliver the wrong message of "to be beautiful, you have to have eurocentric features"
I'm so surprised she was allowed to participate in the first place?? I'm an American but like...how is she winning over all the actual pretty girls lol???
Sad to see Japan copying the virus of the West that is radical political correctness. It is ruining and will ruin your society like it did ours.
Yeah that's what I thought. I was surprised she even competed knowing that the majority of Japanese people have gripes about foreigners claiming to be Japanese. Shit you can be born there and not be Japanese if you're ancestry is elsewhere. That's just the culture.
@@KFC431Where does it say she had an affair with a judge?
Not because of the tabloid scoop, it was because of herself.
“Beauty pageants” should be abolish altogether.
These beauty paegants make females depressed and highlight superficial culture and values. 😔
Nah thats some nazi shit. Cant just make everything illegal which youre not a fan of.
She shouldn’t have won on the first place
She never deserved that in the first place.
Exactly 🙄
This is miss Japan?!? Damn, she looks like a character from the Simpsons.
😂😂😂😂 definitely beauty standards are not very high over there 😅
Exactly rofl😂😂😂
You aint a treat yourself
@@marvin2678 you whiteknighting hard
It’s always the woman who takes the blame…what about the married man, who decided to cheat on his wife? She was single and did not cheat on anyone at least. I bet this dude was not fired from his job and his crown was not revoked
That’s with almost everything in society. If a woman abandons her children for example she will be told awful things and have people more harsher on the woman vs a man who abandons his child. This is like that example.
@@iwuvpiesgaming9164 Because this world is ruled by selfish men.
Look at the comments, dude... They don't even care that she grew up all her life in Japan. They call her ugly or average. Like their personal opinion of beauty is the most important thing in the Peagean word. How many years does this competition last? One time, a foreign looking girl was chosen, and suddenly, they all got angry, lol, so of course, she resigned. We have black players in our basketball team representation (in my 99% white country), and I never said they were not from my country :/ Weird standards.
They both suck tbh it doesn’t really matter if one was “more wrong” and it’s just a shame that they’re not getting equal treatment.
But she KNEW he was married and had a FAMILY. Instead of telling the wife, she chose to continue the relationship knowing it was wrong OR she knew from the beginning and just didn't care.
She didn't cheat on anyone, that's true. BUT she has horrible morals clearly. She is still wrong for doing so. She needs to take several seats.
She doesn’t strike me as a Japanese woman. Perhaps 1/16?
There are soooo many beautiful gorgeous Japanese women why would they choose a Ukrainian she should’ve represented her own country
Because she is Japanese and represents her own country? Your comment is kinda racist ngl…
@@neko7606I would agree, except for the fact that to me it seems like she was picked for being white, not necessarily beautiful. She's very pretty, but if she represented any Western country she wouldn't be picked for Miss anything.
@@neko7606 I agree sleeping with the judges was part of it. And I also agree they have a different standard of beauty, but part of that standard is the weird focus on white features. Korea and Japan are known for skin-bleaching products and eyelid surgery which makes them look more white.
@@neko7606 You make a point with the skintone, which I will take back since after some more research it does lean more towards ancient culture than anything else. But the eyelid surgery is specifically correlated with the popularization of western beauty amongst Asian women. Many Japanese people have double eyelids but it wasn't something specifically sought after until the exposure to Western folks. It would be Eurocentric to assume the majority of Japanese women want to look white, but it would be naive to not see how Western movies, shows, culture, etc. have had their influence on Eastern beauty standards. In the same turn, there has been an influx of women and men trying to look more Korean due to Korean beauty and Kpop influence. I'm not trying to say everyone wants to look white, but you can still see some of the effects of putting white beauty on a pedestal.
@@neko7606 Then you can agree by that logic that there may be some appeal to (presumably) Japanese judges to pick someone who doesn't look like the other Japanese contestants, while still being able to naturally perform Japanese culture and characteristics?
Even as someone who thinks it’s completely fine to favour European beauty standards if that’s your preference, and who personally has that preference, I do think the representatives of each nation’s beauty should have features characteristic of that nation
Europeans feel the same about non-Europeans winning European beauty pageants, but they get called “Racist” for saying it.
@@Celephinnbecause you all messed up the world earlier. Nothing like this sort would have happen if your ancestors were civilized.
@@Celephinn Japanese people also get called racist but they don't care, so it doesn't affect them. Europeans should also stop caring.
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If we don’t care, we get called “Nazi”.
@@Celephinn Of course I also think European representatives should look not only characteristically European, but also somewhat characteristic of their specific European nation
As a white man I think I speak for everyone when I say why??
jjeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwishh she be
Yeah I don't get it either. Definitely not prettier then most Japanese girls. Those judges were just tired of looking at their own kind.
The Miss Germany situation is even worse. Picking a 39-year-old Iranian woman instead of a young beautiful German. I get that they wanted to make pro-immigrant propaganda, but they could've at least picked a young and pretty Turkish, Syrian, or Iranian girl.
@@dreamcatcher2718 s h e is aa jj e w
Because white people are like that.
Considering every other culture claws it’s way into things in western countries, I don’t see the problem.
What made me most disappointed was that Karolina ishii was clearly unfit to participate based on her ethics alone. This pageant is 'supposed to' be about women supporting women. Celebrating women. She does not understand that belief so she should have not participated in the first place. Secondly, she has been living in Japan since the age of 4. She should know what happens when the Japanese media reveals an affair. Therefore she should have ended the affair if she truly wanted to participate. The doctor (age 47) initially lied to her about being a divorced man when they first met but she later revealed that when they met again he was honest about having a wife and kid. However she decided to keep seeing him.* But you have to have some dignity to not be a mistress. Who knows how many more lies he was saying to keep her close. He's also 21 years older than her and four years older than her mom (age 43, teen mom). Her mom's name is Lana and she recently won Best Body Japan 2023 last Fall/Winter. The doctor and Karolina have also participated in the competition and won in categories. Therefore, they should already know how long it takes to prepare to compete. Some of these women prepared since childhood to become Miss Japan and compete in Miss World/Universe. Wasting the other pageant participant's time and resources only for the crown to be vacant this year is selfish. 😢 This could have all been avoided if she didn't participate. Clean your dirty laundry before you hang it out to dry in public.
Add: Initially I tried to think maybe Karolina was a bit shocked by the marriage but turns out the doctor's wife even tried to stop them. Though they continued.
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Maybe don't have this obsession with somebody's laundry? Is this your business?
It's a private life. You are all yucky
@@sanagul-origin5412its not that it's just the way culture is in Japan etc AINT no way that's NOT a huge scandal... It sucks that the crown can't just go to the runner up.
Going into something that puts the public spot light on you YOU SHOULD ATLEAST keep your act together 😭
@@sanagul-origin5412 It's really stupid to label their whole relation and reduce it to simply personal business in this specific context. The relation she had with the judge affects the judge mentally, or, they could've both benefited of each other's relation. Thing is, sexual relation does have effect psychologically.
How insulting to all these beautiful Japanese contestants that missed out on the opportunities being a pageant winner gets. Pageant careers are very short and this Ukrainian woman’s scandal wasted a year for the Japanese ladies
She was born and raised there, she speaks fluently and has lived most of her life there
She is Japanese
Would a Japanese American who mever stepped foot in Japan would be better?
EXACTLY, was a insult
@@Riler-uc3mushe was born in Ukraine not Japan. She just gave Japan a bad name because of her scandal. She’s just naturalized and only recently was naturalized. I don’t think she spent the rest of her life without a country citizen before being naturalized
If an ethnically African women won miss Denmark or something, how would you react? Similarly?
Do you feel the same way about a man winning miss universe?
I don’t understand how a European born woman who doesn’t have Japanese blood, represent the beauty of a country from a different continent? I agree with the Japanese people here as they have their own unique charms like every other country, but “Miss Japan” has the charm of a EUROPEAN woman. No plastic surgery (or lip injections) can make her look Japanese or even Asian in general.
It woukd be more acceptable if you were born in that country and your family has a long history in that country. For example an African-American woman in the US would still be valid to represent the USA’s beauty as her family has had a long history in that country and she was also born there.
Why should someone's identity be 100% defined by something they can't control?
I hate that she keeps squinting her eyes. She has issues.
It’s a beauty pageant, not a President election. Woman is a citizenship of Japan, thus, she is qualified to take part in the pageant. Duuhhh🙄
I get what you mean. For Japan I feel they should be born there or be part Japanese if they are mixed.
America is a multi-ethnic country filled with diversity which I’m very thankful for that. And also America shouldn’t be standardized as European. And most black people have 500 years of history in the USA and help built it so absolutely their beauty should be represented.
@@apollo1694 I identify as rich, but people can't accept that ;(
Now I identify as helicopter but apprently I can't control it, is there something wrong with me?
I think what's going on is you mix up nationality and ethnicity
Can’t win for losing when there’s prejudice.
Japan is very patriarchal society. To the point that men cheating is regarded as less controversial than a woman cheating
Isn't that the case everywhere?
@@iamcleaver6854get a life i’ve seen you in every reply
@@PascualSmith Get a life, I have only made two.
@@iamcleaver6854nah, depends whose married
why TF do you care? weirdo lol@@PascualSmith
No, she didn’t give it up all because of a “tabloid scoop”. She gave it up because she compromised her own integrity by lying that she didn’t know the man she was having an affair with was married. The fact that transgression and her lack of integrity were brought to light was not the cause of her downfall, ultimately her own actions were. Let’s not try to paint her as a victim. Responsibility is also a feature of empowerment. She did it, she owns it.
Not to Feminist anymore. 😅
Did she also own the fact that the married man she slept with was also a judge? Or was that missing in between? There's no way in Hell that you wouldn't know who the judges are at The Miss Japan competition.
@@wn385 lol… the gift that keeps on giving.
Damn she got evolved with a married man while SHE KNEW he was married.. How low.... no respect for her self or the other woman
Damn HE got involved with a woman while HE KNEW he was married… how low… no respect for himself or his wife
@@CellarDoorPoet2 Wrongs does not make a right
@@tylerellis9097 only one wrong is the husband.
@@CellarDoorPoet She got with a man she knew was married, any normal human being would consider her morally in the wrong. Neither committed a legal wrong so I do not understand how you can judge the man alone without being a simp, ultra feminist or misogynist.
@@tylerellis9097 the man entered a moral contract with his wife when he married her. something along the lines of „to honor, in good and bad times“ yada yada. The pageant girl did not give a promise to anyone. So, the only people that do not understand that he is to blame and hold her as accountable as him are misogynistic incels that think they can rule over woman.
I mean fair enough about the affair, but man, people really are being racist about this huh. Imagine if a British or American woman who had immigrated to the country at an older age won the pageant and people were saying she wasn’t _______. That would be racist, just like this is
It's always double standards. If it happens in the US, UK or other countries for ecample, where a person who immigrated from say Vietnam and is now a citizen and win became miss of that country, nobody would be saying "she shouldn't have it bcoz she doesn't look like us" etc without being called racists.