thank you so much for making this video. i have a sparco evo l seat coming for my sim lab p1x pro and this video is giving me the confidence to drill dayton bst1s directly to my seat. im going to put one under the bum and one on my back as you have suggested.
You are very welcome Kev 🙏🏻 I am glad I was able to guide you on the path of the drill, it is not for the faint of heart, but promises rewards for those most committed to the cause. Let me know how you get on with your quest 💪🏻
@@TraumaTeamRacing wanted to say that i successfully mounted two dayton bst1's directly to my seat. one on my lower back and one under my bum. still playing around a bit with sim hub to get the settings dialed in, could use some advice! right now i have rpms and gear shifts on my lower back, still playing around with the curve for rpms. and i have road rumble, road impacts, and wheel slip for under my bum. any suggestions or alterations?
@@TraumaTeamRacing one of the comments below this one that you answered you said you would put one under your butt, and under the pedals. in the comment above you said under your butt and behind your back. i have two bst1s coming in tomorrow - although I can test under the pedal or the back - -which one would be a better option? I am thinking about getting some sim magic phprs - which makes me think I should put one under my butt and the other at my back and let the phprs do the abs and traction loss. thoughts?
For a better feel, I recommend isolating the seat from the chassis with anti-vibration rubber. This reduces the spread of vibrations throughout the chassis. Like you, I have two bass shakers (same model) screwed under my seat. I've tested both solutions and the feel is much better !
I explored this actually with multiple solutions but I wasn't prepared to introduce any flex (albeit small) into the construct and my priority was to have seat as solid as possible (I run my load cell high). With the 4 mounted the feeling is excellent. I'm glad you're happy with you're set up👍🏻
Great video, very informative. Would it be feasible though to use heavy duty velcro instead of drilling holes? I've just ordered 2 x BST-1s and a smaller Dayton transducer, idea is to put the bigger one underneath the seat and test whether the pedal tray works better with the same one or the smaller variant, also purchased the aforementioned velcro which supports weights up to 7KG and reviews suggest it's very good at doing it;s job.
Thank you very much mate! Glad you got something out of it! I personally would not use velcro. The only reason you would do that is because you don't want to drill into your seat. You will have little air gaps with the velcro and a loss of direct contact and some insulation I would have thought. Drill them, trust me, it's great.
@@TraumaTeamRacingThanks for the response and understood. What I might do then is try the velcro first (as already have some at home anyway) and if it doesn't feel right or work well bite the bullet and get the drill out 🙂
You are very welcome. It will feel fine and you will probably be happy. But drilling will be better. If you have bought the BST-1's you owe it to the rig 💪🏻 Do it! 😏
Hello my friend, congratulations on the great video!!!! 5 months later has the seat been compromised by the vibrations or is everything still perfect? In your opinion, bass shakers are better in the seat or in the profile ring ?
Thank you Leon! Appreciate it mate! No compromise. No need to tighten. Everything is still perfect. Just got off a nice little Christmas day session on Forza Horizon 5. Ideally you would want both. If you only had the choice of one, put them on the seat. Hope that helps. Merry Christmas mate! ☃️🎅🏻🎄
@@TraumaTeamRacing would it be possible to share your configuration from simhub ? It would help me a lot with the setup, I made the shakers exactly as you did.
@milosmrihlad4439 Awesome news! How are you finding it? This is a good idea. I shall pop it on my video to do list as a follow up to this. Good thinking 💪🏻
@@TraumaTeamRacing I found it that way on youtube on your channel :D and it made the most sense to me. But I could use it quite a bit, I'm struggling with the setup :/ I think it would help a lot of people.
Thanks a lot mate! Glad you enjoyed it💪🏻 As I recall if you are based in the UK you will have to pay when receiving, courier send you an invoice. It should say in checkout if VAT has been added (it shouldn't be). A wonderful product of Brexit 🙄
I've just had 2 Aura's delivered from Sound Imports and I wasn't charged any import tax (as I was expecting to). They arrived lightening fast as well (ie, I ordered them Sunday night and they arrived Tuesday morning). Made me think they hadn't come from the Netherlands.
Thanks for this vid! I'm trying to plan my flight sim setup - do you think that mounting two shakers under the seat in left/right config (not a bucket seat) would make much sense?
You are very welcome! I had 4 mounted beneath my seat at one point! See here for my standard seat set up 👉🏻 th-cam.com/video/DjIr3O7vamo/w-d-xo.html You won't get side to side separation but what you want is the distinction between different effects. You can only really program 1 or 2 effects per shaker before things get muddy and confused. So the more shakers you have mounted, the more effects you can run without things getting lost in the mix. Hope that helps and let me know how you get on 👍🏻
Such a Great setup and professional made video. May I ask which length the M4 bolts should have for a Sparco Grid Q or similar fiberglass seat? Thank you! 🖖
Thank you for the kind words Christian! Really appreciate the feedback 👍🏻 I've had a look at my invoices and I believe they were 20mm M4 bolts. Ultimately it doesn't matter if they are a bit long as they won't be coming into contact with you. Make sure you use the nylon threaded nuts. Good luck with your shakers 💪🏻
@@TraumaTeamRacing thank you so much for your answer and effort. I am still looking for a fitting amplifier with integrated soundcard, as the Nobsound seems a little too weak . Thank you again and greetings from Germany 👍
You are very welcome. The Nobsounds can drive them (I use 3 of them) and then just use an external sound card. I use a 7.1 card. It works great. Haben Sie einen guten Tag 👋🏻
@@TraumaTeamRacing now as I have seen your shoulder exercises video and know your professional background I know why your videos have that precision which I like so 👍
Thank you very much! Appreciate it 😁 I haven't found one yet. I am using a separate sound card though driven by 3x nobsound amps. This is the sound card I use and simplifies things somewhat in Sim-Hub when programming them: amzn.to/44JMGVw
@@TraumaTeamRacing Thank you, that will work. How do the Shakers feel being mounted on the back side of the fiberglass chair? meaning if the left Shakers is on does it not shake the entire chair? can you maybe post a video with more feedback? i really like your setup i think it will be really cool with my P6
Thanks a lot mate! You can feel the separation nicely as your body is in immediate contact with the chair and the fibreglass conducts the vibrations really well. I'll add that video to my to do list for you 👍🏻
There is a guy called Peter Winkler who is an expert on tactile feedback systems since years and has a big following in germany. He actually recommends attaching the bass shakers via 3m dual lock SJ 3550 CF to the seat. What is your opinion on that?
I am afraid I have never heard of him. I am sure it would work fine, but I personally would not want to introduce another interface between myself and the shaker if at all possible and would prefer something definitively fixed. The seat also has a slight radius of curvature on the back which could make it tricky depending on mounting point, I say this however without having ever tried it. For me, the drill is the way forward and they are still going strong 🔨👍🏻
@@TraumaTeamRacing Yes actually I have the Sparco Grid-Q and I feel like the curvature on the back is bigger than with your XL seat. Kinda worried because of that.
@@GabrielHaller Given the slightly smaller size I would suspect you are right. With the drilling technique you do not need to be completely flush as you can use the nuts to gently tension the shaker. Obviously reckless tightening runs the risk of fracture. The Sparco Grid-Q is a nice seat 👌🏻 Congratulations on your purchase 👍🏻
You are very welcome 👍🏻 Not off the top of my head. I remember having a range of M4 screws. More than likely between 30-40mm. The required length might differ to the thickness of your seat and chosen shaker. Hope that helps.
@@TraumaTeamRacing thanks again mate for the help, tested the shaker and turns out it works very well with the natural resonance of my seat and its mounting position, the whole of the frequency range 10-80hz of the BST-1 is usable with it. Very strong and distinct and assigned 5/6 effects on my sims with only the 1 shaker.
@@voongnz You are most welcome! I am glad it all worked out for you. Mounting them on a bucket is awesome! Sounds like you have a sweet set up. Now to add more 😉
I just bought a single AuraSound AST-2B-4 Pro and Nobsound mini and was going to place it directly under my seat (drilled) and was wondering if I should use rubber washers? And also will I need a sound card or will it work just fine plugging it in using just the USB connection ? Thanks and great video
@@TraumaTeamRacing oh I already have that video saved for a step by step lol thank you! But I have seen others post that adding rubber washers is a must and didn’t see you put any on so I was just wondering if it’s necessary or not. Also since it’s just one tactile shaker I’m assuming I won’t need a sound card and the nobsound usb connection will be sufficient
@@hbharrison1984 I wouldn't use a rubber washer personally, the shakers have already got a foam pad beneath them. If you introduce washers under the seat, you introduce unwanted movement under braking. You will be absolutely fine with just the Nobsound amp. Hope that helps 👍🏻
Hi Scott are you likely to do a follow up video on what signals are sent to each of your speakers? Currently I run with two bst-1’s and have reduced the number of inputs so as to make the make effects clearer. Nobsound make a 4 channel amp that I am currently contemplating but that’s only if I can find value in the extra effects and units.
Hi Bob! I do mate, it's in the pipe line. I have 6 mounted and wouldn't want to decrease the number. My advice would definitely be to increase from 2 to 4 if you can stretch to it. Hope that helps👍🏻
how does it feel ? im currently looking at a buttkicker myself however I have a DIY wood rig with a Acura RSX seat on it, and what I've seen people with my kind of setup don't get much feed back from it. I'm wondering if I contact my friend who builds race cars if he would have a bucket seat like this. or just move to a brand new aluminum rig first which would be a lot more expensive
Hi TTR, I have 2 Aura's mounted to my rig, one is directly onto the underneath of my seat, and one is mounted onto the rig itself (also under my seat). I just wanted to know if you think there would be much difference adding 2 further Aura's to the sides of my seat (like you have done), and whether this would be worth the upgrade (Initially, I had one under my seat and one under my pedals, but found I didn't get much feedback from the one under the pedals). Hope you can shed some light.
I would recommend mounting as many as you can in direct contact with the seat. Mount one to the back of the seat preferentially. I have 2 Auras mounted distally underneath the pedal deck which work well. The 4 points of vibration surrounding the seat are excellent. I am enjoying it👍🏻 Hope that helps.
This isn't plastic it is fibre glass. For a decent seat should be fine as long as you follow the video.
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Has anyone tried instead to put M4 threaded rivets? Would seem like a more long-term (threads won't wear out) and more professional-looking solution (less bulge inside and if removed the holes won't look that random).
I don't think this is worth the hassle personally. There would be no significant gain. The wear rate of carbon steel is excellent and the materials are not being continuously cycled so there should be no abrasive wear on the thread. The nut is also nylon threaded which obliterates micromotion and subsequent potential abrasive wear. The nuts are also not palpable when sitting down as they are M4 rounded heads.
@shawnmichalski2746 I personally would advise against this as I have had things strip and break off in rigs because of Loctite. Nylon nuts are cheap 👍🏻
@@TraumaTeamRacing There are different types of Loctite, Red 277 is used on exhaust header studs to keep them from backing out from excessive vibration and expansion and contraction.. No way a sim rig is backing them out unless it wasn't applied properly. I use grade 8 steel hardware for my rig too. Cheap chinese hardware stretches too easily. I do a once over a year on all the bolts and nuts and I haven't had any loose ones in 3 years.
I accept it can be done and have done it myself previously. But for the general user who wants a simple solution with no experience of Loctite, a nylon threaded nut is a much better option in my opinion.
@@TraumaTeamRacing In my experience anymore than 2 just gets muddy. Great job mounting them all to the seat though, Id love to mount mine straight to the back like yours, im just wondering how it holds up over time.
I find it only gets muddy if you are throwing too many effects at a single shaker. Hence, the multiple shakers. Slightly differing frequencies also help with the differentiation I find. 5 months and no issues so far. Very much still loving them.
@@TraumaTeamRacingI agree. Separation is very important with these. After RPM and gear shift on one shaker it’s done. Any more effects and they fight each other.
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Great video mate. Never thought about glueing the inside of the screwholes. Good idea.
Thank you buddy! Really appreciate it🙏🏻 Glue just made me feel a bit better😅
thank you so much for making this video. i have a sparco evo l seat coming for my sim lab p1x pro and this video is giving me the confidence to drill dayton bst1s directly to my seat. im going to put one under the bum and one on my back as you have suggested.
You are very welcome Kev 🙏🏻 I am glad I was able to guide you on the path of the drill, it is not for the faint of heart, but promises rewards for those most committed to the cause. Let me know how you get on with your quest 💪🏻
@@TraumaTeamRacing wanted to say that i successfully mounted two dayton bst1's directly to my seat. one on my lower back and one under my bum. still playing around a bit with sim hub to get the settings dialed in, could use some advice!
right now i have rpms and gear shifts on my lower back, still playing around with the curve for rpms.
and i have road rumble, road impacts, and wheel slip for under my bum.
any suggestions or alterations?
For budget reasons, I only want to use 2. You recommend right and left or rather under the buttocks and in the back.
Thanks for your tuto!
You are very welcome! I would recommend under the bum and back. Bigger contact area with your body 👍🏻 Let me know how you get on 💪🏻
@@TraumaTeamRacing thank you for your really fast response !
You are very welcome 💪🏻 Good luck sim racer 🫡
@@TraumaTeamRacing one of the comments below this one that you answered you said you would put one under your butt, and under the pedals. in the comment above you said under your butt and behind your back. i have two bst1s coming in tomorrow - although I can test under the pedal or the back - -which one would be a better option? I am thinking about getting some sim magic phprs - which makes me think I should put one under my butt and the other at my back and let the phprs do the abs and traction loss. thoughts?
For a better feel, I recommend isolating the seat from the chassis with anti-vibration rubber. This reduces the spread of vibrations throughout the chassis. Like you, I have two bass shakers (same model) screwed under my seat. I've tested both solutions and the feel is much better !
I explored this actually with multiple solutions but I wasn't prepared to introduce any flex (albeit small) into the construct and my priority was to have seat as solid as possible (I run my load cell high). With the 4 mounted the feeling is excellent. I'm glad you're happy with you're set up👍🏻
Great video, very informative. Would it be feasible though to use heavy duty velcro instead of drilling holes?
I've just ordered 2 x BST-1s and a smaller Dayton transducer, idea is to put the bigger one underneath the seat and test whether the pedal tray works better with the same one or the smaller variant, also purchased the aforementioned velcro which supports weights up to 7KG and reviews suggest it's very good at doing it;s job.
Thank you very much mate! Glad you got something out of it!
I personally would not use velcro. The only reason you would do that is because you don't want to drill into your seat. You will have little air gaps with the velcro and a loss of direct contact and some insulation I would have thought. Drill them, trust me, it's great.
@@TraumaTeamRacingThanks for the response and understood.
What I might do then is try the velcro first (as already have some at home anyway) and if it doesn't feel right or work well bite the bullet and get the drill out 🙂
You are very welcome. It will feel fine and you will probably be happy.
But drilling will be better. If you have bought the BST-1's you owe it to the rig 💪🏻
Do it! 😏
Hey great video!, which effect/s do you use for each shaker?
I have a video in the pipeline about this breaking them all down. Hopefully shouldn't be too long before I get it released.
Hello my friend, congratulations on the great video!!!! 5 months later has the seat been compromised by the vibrations or is everything still perfect? In your opinion, bass shakers are better in the seat or in the profile ring ?
Thank you Leon! Appreciate it mate! No compromise. No need to tighten. Everything is still perfect. Just got off a nice little Christmas day session on Forza Horizon 5. Ideally you would want both. If you only had the choice of one, put them on the seat. Hope that helps. Merry Christmas mate! ☃️🎅🏻🎄
@@TraumaTeamRacing would it be possible to share your configuration from simhub ? It would help me a lot with the setup, I made the shakers exactly as you did.
@milosmrihlad4439 Awesome news! How are you finding it?
This is a good idea. I shall pop it on my video to do list as a follow up to this. Good thinking 💪🏻
@@TraumaTeamRacing I found it that way on youtube on your channel :D and it made the most sense to me. But I could use it quite a bit, I'm struggling with the setup :/ I think it would help a lot of people.
@milosmrihlad4439 Excellent idea buddy! I shall commence the planning 💪🏻🤓
Once again Great Video !!!!
Question I'm just about to buy shakers from sound imports did you had to pay the tax when receiving the parcel??
Thanks a lot mate! Glad you enjoyed it💪🏻 As I recall if you are based in the UK you will have to pay when receiving, courier send you an invoice. It should say in checkout if VAT has been added (it shouldn't be). A wonderful product of Brexit 🙄
I've just had 2 Aura's delivered from Sound Imports and I wasn't charged any import tax (as I was expecting to). They arrived lightening fast as well (ie, I ordered them Sunday night and they arrived Tuesday morning). Made me think they hadn't come from the Netherlands.
@@darrenslinger7018 That's awesome! Hope you enjoy them. I love mine! They usually get you a little later with an invoice 😅
@@TraumaTeamRacing I'm spending 💰 because of you 😜😜 ps fantastic videos keep up the good work
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I'm sorry mate! 🤣 Thanks for the kind words. I'll see what else I can get you to buy 😂😂😂
Thanks for this vid! I'm trying to plan my flight sim setup - do you think that mounting two shakers under the seat in left/right config (not a bucket seat) would make much sense?
You are very welcome! I had 4 mounted beneath my seat at one point!
See here for my standard seat set up 👉🏻 th-cam.com/video/DjIr3O7vamo/w-d-xo.html
You won't get side to side separation but what you want is the distinction between different effects. You can only really program 1 or 2 effects per shaker before things get muddy and confused. So the more shakers you have mounted, the more effects you can run without things getting lost in the mix.
Hope that helps and let me know how you get on 👍🏻
@@TraumaTeamRacing Thanks! It will take me looong time so hopefully I won't forget by then :D
Good luck 👍🏻
Such a Great setup and professional made video. May I ask which length the M4 bolts should have for a Sparco Grid Q or similar fiberglass seat? Thank you! 🖖
Thank you for the kind words Christian! Really appreciate the feedback 👍🏻 I've had a look at my invoices and I believe they were 20mm M4 bolts. Ultimately it doesn't matter if they are a bit long as they won't be coming into contact with you. Make sure you use the nylon threaded nuts. Good luck with your shakers 💪🏻
@@TraumaTeamRacing thank you so much for your answer and effort. I am still looking for a fitting amplifier with integrated soundcard, as the Nobsound seems a little too weak . Thank you again and greetings from Germany 👍
You are very welcome. The Nobsounds can drive them (I use 3 of them) and then just use an external sound card. I use a 7.1 card. It works great. Haben Sie einen guten Tag 👋🏻
@@TraumaTeamRacing now as I have seen your shoulder exercises video and know your professional background I know why your videos have that precision which I like so 👍
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Great video! is there a 6 channel amp with an intergraded audio card that we can use to make things more neat?
Thank you very much! Appreciate it 😁
I haven't found one yet.
I am using a separate sound card though driven by 3x nobsound amps.
This is the sound card I use and simplifies things somewhat in Sim-Hub when programming them:
amzn.to/44JMGVw
@@TraumaTeamRacing Thank you, that will work. How do the Shakers feel being mounted on the back side of the fiberglass chair? meaning if the left Shakers is on does it not shake the entire chair? can you maybe post a video with more feedback? i really like your setup i think it will be really cool with my P6
Thanks a lot mate! You can feel the separation nicely as your body is in immediate contact with the chair and the fibreglass conducts the vibrations really well. I'll add that video to my to do list for you 👍🏻
Which effects do you use for the sides vs the seatback?
There is a guy called Peter Winkler who is an expert on tactile feedback systems since years and has a big following in germany. He actually recommends attaching the bass shakers via 3m dual lock SJ 3550 CF to the seat. What is your opinion on that?
I am afraid I have never heard of him. I am sure it would work fine, but I personally would not want to introduce another interface between myself and the shaker if at all possible and would prefer something definitively fixed. The seat also has a slight radius of curvature on the back which could make it tricky depending on mounting point, I say this however without having ever tried it. For me, the drill is the way forward and they are still going strong 🔨👍🏻
@@TraumaTeamRacing Yes actually I have the Sparco Grid-Q and I feel like the curvature on the back is bigger than with your XL seat. Kinda worried because of that.
@@GabrielHaller Given the slightly smaller size I would suspect you are right. With the drilling technique you do not need to be completely flush as you can use the nuts to gently tension the shaker. Obviously reckless tightening runs the risk of fracture. The Sparco Grid-Q is a nice seat 👌🏻 Congratulations on your purchase 👍🏻
Thanks for the informative video. Do you remember the lenght of the screws?
You are very welcome 👍🏻 Not off the top of my head. I remember having a range of M4 screws. More than likely between 30-40mm. The required length might differ to the thickness of your seat and chosen shaker. Hope that helps.
if you've only got 1 for the rear, would you prefer mounting it on the bottom or the back of the seat?
Definitely the bottom of the seat. You feel most of it through your bum. You won't go wrong.
@@TraumaTeamRacing thanks for the suggestion, I will do just that and add one to the front later. Cheers!
@voongnz Happy to help mate 👍🏻 Let me know how you get on. Good luck 💪🏻
@@TraumaTeamRacing thanks again mate for the help, tested the shaker and turns out it works very well with the natural resonance of my seat and its mounting position, the whole of the frequency range 10-80hz of the BST-1 is usable with it. Very strong and distinct and assigned 5/6 effects on my sims with only the 1 shaker.
@@voongnz You are most welcome! I am glad it all worked out for you. Mounting them on a bucket is awesome! Sounds like you have a sweet set up. Now to add more 😉
I just bought a single AuraSound AST-2B-4 Pro and Nobsound mini and was going to place it directly under my seat (drilled) and was wondering if I should use rubber washers? And also will I need a sound card or will it work just fine plugging it in using just the USB connection ?
Thanks and great video
Attach them as described in the video. This explains how to wire them. Good luck with the build 👍🏻 th-cam.com/video/4U2rx42io8k/w-d-xo.html
@@TraumaTeamRacing oh I already have that video saved for a step by step lol thank you! But I have seen others post that adding rubber washers is a must and didn’t see you put any on so I was just wondering if it’s necessary or not. Also since it’s just one tactile shaker I’m assuming I won’t need a sound card and the nobsound usb connection will be sufficient
@@hbharrison1984 I wouldn't use a rubber washer personally, the shakers have already got a foam pad beneath them. If you introduce washers under the seat, you introduce unwanted movement under braking. You will be absolutely fine with just the Nobsound amp. Hope that helps 👍🏻
@@TraumaTeamRacing thanks for the info and I’ll update you how the install went when in get to it
Hi Scott are you likely to do a follow up video on what signals are sent to each of your speakers? Currently I run with two bst-1’s and have reduced the number of inputs so as to make the make effects clearer. Nobsound make a 4 channel amp that I am currently contemplating but that’s only if I can find value in the extra effects and units.
Hi Bob! I do mate, it's in the pipe line. I have 6 mounted and wouldn't want to decrease the number. My advice would definitely be to increase from 2 to 4 if you can stretch to it. Hope that helps👍🏻
how does it feel ? im currently looking at a buttkicker myself however I have a DIY wood rig with a Acura RSX seat on it, and what I've seen people with my kind of setup don't get much feed back from it. I'm wondering if I contact my friend who builds race cars if he would have a bucket seat like this. or just move to a brand new aluminum rig first which would be a lot more expensive
Hope this helps!
Hi TTR, I have 2 Aura's mounted to my rig, one is directly onto the underneath of my seat, and one is mounted onto the rig itself (also under my seat). I just wanted to know if you think there would be much difference adding 2 further Aura's to the sides of my seat (like you have done), and whether this would be worth the upgrade (Initially, I had one under my seat and one under my pedals, but found I didn't get much feedback from the one under the pedals). Hope you can shed some light.
I would recommend mounting as many as you can in direct contact with the seat. Mount one to the back of the seat preferentially.
I have 2 Auras mounted distally underneath the pedal deck which work well.
The 4 points of vibration surrounding the seat are excellent. I am enjoying it👍🏻 Hope that helps.
I just got 2 of these for Christmas, if you only had 2 where would you mount? Sides or bottom and back? Thanks!
Congratulations on your present 🎁
Put one directly beneath the seat and then put one on the pedal deck. That's what I would do.
Hope that helps 👍🏻
@@TraumaTeamRacing thanks! I do have fanatec elite pedals that vibrate some. Would you still do this?
Yep. That would still be my plan. I like road impacts on the front along with ABS etc. You can always add more shakers later......which you will 😏
Will buttkicker work on plastic bucket seat like this? I'm afraid the seat will be broken after a few shake
This isn't plastic it is fibre glass. For a decent seat should be fine as long as you follow the video.
Has anyone tried instead to put M4 threaded rivets? Would seem like a more long-term (threads won't wear out) and more professional-looking solution (less bulge inside and if removed the holes won't look that random).
I don't think this is worth the hassle personally. There would be no significant gain. The wear rate of carbon steel is excellent and the materials are not being continuously cycled so there should be no abrasive wear on the thread. The nut is also nylon threaded which obliterates micromotion and subsequent potential abrasive wear. The nuts are also not palpable when sitting down as they are M4 rounded heads.
If you don't have nylon nuts go ahead and use thread locker like Loctite.
@shawnmichalski2746 I personally would advise against this as I have had things strip and break off in rigs because of Loctite. Nylon nuts are cheap 👍🏻
@@TraumaTeamRacing There are different types of Loctite, Red 277 is used on exhaust header studs to keep them from backing out from excessive vibration and expansion and contraction.. No way a sim rig is backing them out unless it wasn't applied properly. I use grade 8 steel hardware for my rig too. Cheap chinese hardware stretches too easily. I do a once over a year on all the bolts and nuts and I haven't had any loose ones in 3 years.
I accept it can be done and have done it myself previously. But for the general user who wants a simple solution with no experience of Loctite, a nylon threaded nut is a much better option in my opinion.
Diminishing returns......
Respectfully disagree.
Care to clarify?
@@TraumaTeamRacing In my experience anymore than 2 just gets muddy. Great job mounting them all to the seat though, Id love to mount mine straight to the back like yours, im just wondering how it holds up over time.
I find it only gets muddy if you are throwing too many effects at a single shaker. Hence, the multiple shakers. Slightly differing frequencies also help with the differentiation I find. 5 months and no issues so far. Very much still loving them.
@@TraumaTeamRacingI agree. Separation is very important with these. After RPM and gear shift on one shaker it’s done. Any more effects and they fight each other.