been saying it since master duel came out, the only person who seemed to understand the best place to put the cam was coder, but god knows I wasn't watching him for more than 5 minute bursts
I do think that the decision to reduce secret packs from 15 to 10 is starting to backfire. It was a logical move to bring down the power level, but it feels like there have been a lot of decks that would’ve been playable with another 5 pulls. Vendreads and Deskbots were both so close this week.
we do have to consider the cost element. IDK how it works exactly, but i think dzeef pays for all the pays so that's 30 MPs and 30 SPs every week. hmm now that i think about it it was 30 MPs and 30 SPs last time too but 15/15 each instead of 10/10 each XD
It's probably not cost, since Doug would be able to write these off of his income as a work expense (at least partially). But if pack openings are too long it can affect retention which in turn affects his algorithm. There are probably other reasons for it, just that cost very likely isn't one of them.
@@Dzeeffyeah its just unfortunate for pacing, I had the exact same thought as you that it would just be too long. If this was like a tournament it would be better to do 15 each but its a YT series at the end of the day.
@@Dzeeff can’t argue with that. Alternative solution: we do 15, but everytime Farfa makes a bad joke or pun about a card he pulls, we speed him up by 20%. I think you’d actually save time!
Farfa trying to get everyone else to call each other garbage but the moment Doug is like "Your deck sucks on the first few turns." Its instantly "SHUT UP!" 😂
I think this season confirms that 15 Secret packs was the sweet spot for openings. 10 just doesn't feel like enough with the quality of pulls/the amount of bans/limits.
I think Saga *may* have to go back to 15 packs, simply because 10 doesn't seem like enough to get people to switch decks unless you get *very, very* lucky.
@@Celestia282 Or they'll be stuck on a weird pile kind of like Gage is. Banning everything good just means they wind up playing a worse pile unless they get lucky again
@@BoBnfishy Exactly. Like, Gage is still on jelly Canon cuz he hasn't found anything that can take the slot. Arguably Im sure we could dig something up, but stuff like that gets pushed out pretty early simply cuz Archetypal stuff tends to take over, but that doesn't seem likely here.
hello mr dzeeff since you mentioned that farfa is playing the same decks a lot here is the stats for howmany times each of you played your decks (keep in mind sometimes they are playing a different version of the deck for example farfa played 4 different versions of shaddolls and dzeeff played 2 versions of noble knight): -dzeeff; harpies:5 noble knights : 3 earth machine : 2 burning abyss : 1 windups : 1 pend :1 -gage; lab trap pile : 7 hero lab : 2 sallad : 1 earth deck :1 go 2nd good stuff: 2 -farfa; shaddolls :5 striker math: 2 mathmeck: 2 striker: 1 hieratics: 1 infernoids: 1 sharks : 1 so each one of you guys played the same deck for at least 5 times this season 🙂
Doug's Deskbot pulls were among the most tragic of all time At this point, I wish he went into the Tellarknight/Constellar pack. At least those two archetypes have some synergy.
@@MiyaoMeow588 just looked that pack also has the normal noble knights wich he also has a decent core off (and an arthur) and its single archetype you dont need isolde for those and im fairly certain that both farfa and nimnim cant out a 4k towers
@@Nephie1984 I think that gets him into a similar situation to the Windups, Noble Knights just ain't great overall. The Windups do make a solid Rank 3/4 Engine if you can get them the payoffs though.
Why would he ban Engage? If Farfa wants to shoot himself in the foot by going into the Sky Striker pack a fifth time trying to get one, singular, UR so that he can play an already nerfed deck, I say let him.
Are we not gonna look at the elephant in the room? Dude is mopping their faces with Tear,Shaddol,Branded pile after screwing up constantly But I'm a Tear player so... TEARAMENTS STRONGEST!
34:45 it's kinda scary how many people missplay against the construction Train. Everytime I played that card, my opponents also stop attacking further and just end the battle Phase. Doug should not have told him, because it's a common mistake people make.
Doug wanted gage to pop Waking with Abomination, which triggers if a monster is destroyed by battle, which is why he told him that he can continue attacking. Which did actually happen!
1:10:03 Gage... you should've summoned Beast King Barbaros, overlay him and Alpha into Heliopolis, tribute the monster in hand, pop Fog Blade, then attack and win. Come on bro
Yeah, he didn't realize it until after the duel during the deck profiles. I almost didn't know what turn he was referring to until i saw this comment and remembered Beast King's other party trick.
2:34 Funny Farfa should mention that because (as of posting this) Mikanko is going to get a Secret Pack after Maintenance alongside Purrely and Rescue-ACE. 50:52 Insane Top Deck Mill I have a feeling Memory and Fog Blade might get banned next. Those are too strong. Not really much to say about Both Farfa and Gage’s decks this time. Doug got absolutely crushed by the Abomination and Tearlament Quaeritis.
You either think Tearlament is the crowning achievement of human civilization or want to personally light every single copy of them on fire and make MBT watch. There is absolutely no middle ground.
@@Celestia282 The downfall of YGO was started by the first people who bought new cards mainly because they felt said cards would be the next meta. Those whoevers trained Konami to chase money via powercreep over game health. If we could purge this group of people entirely from every TCG community the hobby would be so much comfier.
@jshtng78 that happened literally the first set. People bought the starter decks because of staples, La Jinn and Summoned Skull. And if you don't like that answer because muh nostalgia yugi Kaiba format batchest, the very first tournament pack is infamous for powercreep because it introduced Mechanicalchaser, which hit close to 200 bucks because it was plain better than everything else.
To be fair if he's going for a go 2nd good stuff pile, aiming for a couple Bystial wasn't a bad idea. You'd hope to get at least one or maybe two if you're lucky from 10 packs, which would go nicely with the craft.
I believe twenty packs is fine when playing with two others since there are more bans and limits to go around. You can also probably ban the use of starter deck cards after the first banning, unless they pull copies of them from previous and future pack openings, to make the strategies more diverse and have more variation.
Don't know if mr. zeeff will see this but i think 15 packs was better since you were more likely to be able to make a new deck, seen from this series that everyone is kinda sticking to what they have since they simply are only able to pull 10 cards, 15 might help add more variety
35:00 Doug could have Special summoned Final Sigma, immediately targeted it with Fog blade for an unaffected 3k beater that cannot be targeted for attacks but can attack itself. Yes Gaige had an out in Abomination to pop fog blade etc, but it would have saved him for a little bit
To increase deck’s viability without leaving us with 2+ hours episodes, they could maybe introduce a pity system where you can exchange the fourth and higher copies of cards you pull with another from the pack ?
All throughout the episode, the top graveyard was covered by cam, and camera clutter seems to be an issue with three people on screen. I think a solution could be an overlay, but I'm not sure how it works, since it's live.
It doesn't matter how many packs they pull. Gage was never giving up Lab until it got banned, and Farfa was never giving up Mathmech until it got hit and now he has Tearlaments. When they high roll into the strongest packs, you could give them 30 openings of other packs they wouldn't change their decks. Why would they? If you want more variety, they should institute bans more frequently to get them to shift strategies.
15 packs need to return I think... Edit: so after a long break I finished the video. yeah, I think this season of Master Saga started as the one with the most potential but with episodes going on I feel it's kinda falling down? I think the main fault of this is the lack of packs, since the power level is THIS low in the episode before the last banlist
Wanted to throw out a banlist suggestion, since the power level has felt off this season. I think it would be interesting for players get get 1 "grudge ban" against any deck they lose against at the end of each episode. They can ban any 1 card that was played in the deck that beat them that week, and these bans last until the player who issued the ban defeats the player whose card they banned. This means that when a deck goes 2-0 in a week, two cards will be banned from it temporarily, likely forcing the player to choose a new strategy next week. Should that player goes 0-2 next week, all begrudged cards will be removed from the banlist, allowing them to play the deck that was strong enough to go 2-0 the prior week once more. If they go 1-1, they would get 1 card back, and 1 new ban on their current deck, and if they someone go 2-0 again they will be forced to make another deck once more. If a player had multiple grudge bans by one other player, losing to that player will still remove all bans against them. I think this makes oppressive decks feel less bad to both play against and watch while still allowing players to use those oppressive decks multiple times per week before the real banlist. It also allows players who go 0-2 to comeback, while not punishing the total collection of the 2-0 players (winning is better in the long run, but winning will make the short term harder to win). Grudge bans probably shouldn't apply to the last episode, but it would be up to your guys if you want to remove them every banlist episode or do whatever.
Farfa: "Ugh you are playing Pacifis again!" also Farfa: "I am going to play the same deck for an eight time" (PS: I am not actually hating, i just think its really funny)
31:10 Obv Dzeeff didn't know he didn't get Parallel Exceed until he drew it with Thunderbird but I think Gage would've still been able to make Barbaros by using the timelords eff to draw 1 after linking into Beat Cop and getting to Parallel Exceed that way w/o risking losing Barbaros to Thunderbird
I think Zeef went too heavy on the bans and limits rules, because now no one has a competent strategy anymore and they're just playing with decks that are halfbaked. I guess that's supposed to be the allure to these duels but idk. I don't like seeing piles of nothing duel for 60 mins.
I think the amount of bans/limits are fine if they were doing the 15 secret packs instead of 10. They just aren't getting enough of a cardpool to make up ground.
@@PhoenixLance13 I agree. 10 packs sometimes just doesn't cut it and then you get the double dipping or even triple. I feel like you should you be put in a position where you get enough packs for a decent ratio of the archetype and that going back in wouldn't be worth it.
Honestly given how neat yet not overpowered deskbots and vendreads are, I'd support them being opened again guaranteed next ep? Maybe gage can get the vernysylphs
Suggestion : I think in next season u can make the reward into either craft/extra pulls. Like 2 wins : ur craft or extra 10 pulls 1 wins : sr craft or extra 5 packs 0 wins : 2 rare/common or extra 2 packs
That Yugioh monster typing thing you guys were talking about, I think you might have been thinking about Falsebound Kingdom on the GCN. I think that had typing
There were a few. I know dark duel stories for Gameboy color had type advantage where it instantly destroyed a monster if it was its weakness. Forbidden memories for ps1 had a weird astrology type advantage
Its kinda sad next episode is banning and gage and dzeef hasnt played real decks since the previous banning. This is just masochist challange at this point, but i have an amazing idea for banning WILD WILD BANS, each player can name 2 cards that others might name, and if a card is named in WILD BANS and WILD WILD BANS its not banned if that player can eat a irl copy of that card (highest rarity possible) (must chew 30 times) I think this change fits really well with the saga tradition of making up shit every 5 ep
Just a quick reminder that there's only one week before the next banning. I hope they hit like mbt and the mekk-knights so we can watch Gage turn up with the actual starter deck
I think instead of doing 15 packs every week like many others are saying, why not add like a "cheat ticket" system where using one lets you pull an additional 10 packs or something. Everyone starts with 3 and you can gain 1 if you lose 0-4 in a row or something. Makes it so that they have to be strategic with when they use it as they have only a limited number of them.
Why must Gage always take the bait packs? And please go back to 15 packs for each opening. Getting more chances to open key cards from each pack would go a long way
When I saw that Farfa had Quaritis in the transverser column, and Doug had the right zones and enough material, I thought he was about to do something very funny... I guess in a way I was right. 😅
I know Gage knew there was something, but I think summoning MBT > Decode Talker into EMZ pointing at Anoyatillus > attack Tribe legitimately would've won the game there.
Geez you guys are sometimes ridiculous with your criticisms. It's a joke, it's banter. Both Farfa and MBT have done this in previous saga seasons when 1st week cards are played. Both Dzeef and Gage even reciprocate the banter. Maybe I'm missing something, idk.
I love the exciment over mills we can't see because of the cam placements.
been saying it since master duel came out, the only person who seemed to understand the best place to put the cam was coder, but god knows I wasn't watching him for more than 5 minute bursts
@@MrDegan2yeah, coder is tough to watch.
@@MrDegan2 full agree on the last part. idek why. but he feels unbearable.
I do think that the decision to reduce secret packs from 15 to 10 is starting to backfire. It was a logical move to bring down the power level, but it feels like there have been a lot of decks that would’ve been playable with another 5 pulls. Vendreads and Deskbots were both so close this week.
we do have to consider the cost element. IDK how it works exactly, but i think dzeef pays for all the pays so that's 30 MPs and 30 SPs every week.
hmm now that i think about it it was 30 MPs and 30 SPs last time too but 15/15 each instead of 10/10 each XD
I'm pretty sure the reduction in the number of packs was because of the episode's duration, not the power level
It's probably not cost, since Doug would be able to write these off of his income as a work expense (at least partially). But if pack openings are too long it can affect retention which in turn affects his algorithm. There are probably other reasons for it, just that cost very likely isn't one of them.
@@Dzeeffyeah its just unfortunate for pacing, I had the exact same thought as you that it would just be too long. If this was like a tournament it would be better to do 15 each but its a YT series at the end of the day.
@@Dzeeff can’t argue with that. Alternative solution: we do 15, but everytime Farfa makes a bad joke or pun about a card he pulls, we speed him up by 20%. I think you’d actually save time!
Farfa trying to get everyone else to call each other garbage but the moment Doug is like "Your deck sucks on the first few turns." Its instantly "SHUT UP!" 😂
I think this season confirms that 15 Secret packs was the sweet spot for openings. 10 just doesn't feel like enough with the quality of pulls/the amount of bans/limits.
Farfa to Nhymnim when he cheers: yo calm down dude. Farfa when topdecking a good card: **starts screaming and laughing like crazy**
To be fair its his Joker Ark
I think Saga *may* have to go back to 15 packs, simply because 10 doesn't seem like enough to get people to switch decks unless you get *very, very* lucky.
Alternate solution: ban more cards. If the deck is ruined, then they'll be forced to switch.
@@Celestia282 Or they'll be stuck on a weird pile kind of like Gage is. Banning everything good just means they wind up playing a worse pile unless they get lucky again
@@hawkticus_history_cornerthat and lots of cards like fog blade
@@BoBnfishy Exactly. Like, Gage is still on jelly Canon cuz he hasn't found anything that can take the slot. Arguably Im sure we could dig something up, but stuff like that gets pushed out pretty early simply cuz Archetypal stuff tends to take over, but that doesn't seem likely here.
@@hawkticus_history_corner I feel like that's the point, though? It's a progression series; they're supposed to play janky piles of garbage.
farfa: yugioh is too complicated!
also farfa: lets add elemental weaknesses!
They can't read but at least are not colorblind
@@silviopaolo7282 Are we sure about that? Like, I don't know if it has come up
i do love how every single week gage rolls up with "gage's epic pile 😎"
(TM)
hello mr dzeeff since you mentioned that farfa is playing the same decks a lot here is the stats for howmany times each of you played your decks (keep in mind sometimes they are playing a different version of the deck for example farfa played 4 different versions of shaddolls and dzeeff played 2 versions of noble knight):
-dzeeff;
harpies:5
noble knights : 3
earth machine : 2
burning abyss : 1
windups : 1
pend :1
-gage;
lab trap pile : 7
hero lab : 2
sallad : 1
earth deck :1
go 2nd good stuff: 2
-farfa;
shaddolls :5
striker math: 2
mathmeck: 2
striker: 1
hieratics: 1
infernoids: 1
sharks : 1
so each one of you guys played the same deck for at least 5 times this season 🙂
Now I'm curious to who used the same deck the longest in all seasons.
@@RealCutieMutiegage probably
@@RealCutieMutie Definitely Gage.
@@RealCutieMutie probably Gage with his trap pile deck
Replacing all the “white/wight” cards with MBT is a top 5 Crush Cards bit and you cannot change my mind.
Multiple times this episode I felt like Doug was on the verge of saying far worse words than he actually did. 10/10, the Gas Leak episode of all time.
it genuinely feels like they need 5 extra packs
Doug's Deskbot pulls were among the most tragic of all time
At this point, I wish he went into the Tellarknight/Constellar pack. At least those two archetypes have some synergy.
doug already had a core for infernoble knights he was insane that he didnt double dip on them
@@Nephie1984 i figure he thinks that Infernobles are unplayable without Isolde which honestly probably isn't too far from the truth
@@MiyaoMeow588 just looked that pack also has the normal noble knights wich he also has a decent core off (and an arthur) and its single archetype you dont need isolde for those and im fairly certain that both farfa and nimnim cant out a 4k towers
@@Nephie1984 I think that gets him into a similar situation to the Windups, Noble Knights just ain't great overall. The Windups do make a solid Rank 3/4 Engine if you can get them the payoffs though.
Cat laying on farfa is the highlight of the episode until cat left
I think next weeks bans from doug need to be engage and jelly cannon. Farfa needs to be saved from himself, he was looking for that pack again.
Why would he ban Engage? If Farfa wants to shoot himself in the foot by going into the Sky Striker pack a fifth time trying to get one, singular, UR so that he can play an already nerfed deck, I say let him.
@@Celestia282 for our sake... stop him...
@@lucaslennan3356 But what if it's funny?
@@Celestia282Fair argument
Are we not gonna look at the elephant in the room?
Dude is mopping their faces with Tear,Shaddol,Branded pile after screwing up constantly
But I'm a Tear player so... TEARAMENTS STRONGEST!
We need to go back to 15 packs for sure.
The longer we stay the more and more likely the coveted 2-3 hour video becomes
34:45 it's kinda scary how many people missplay against the construction Train. Everytime I played that card, my opponents also stop attacking further and just end the battle Phase. Doug should not have told him, because it's a common mistake people make.
Doug wanted gage to pop Waking with Abomination, which triggers if a monster is destroyed by battle, which is why he told him that he can continue attacking. Which did actually happen!
It may just be that they are having awful luck this season, but I’m starting to think that 10 secret packs might not be enough.
Farfa making all of his monsters zero made me laugh.
The Pokémon quote: If its not 100% its 50%
Hail yeah!
1:10:03 Gage... you should've summoned Beast King Barbaros, overlay him and Alpha into Heliopolis, tribute the monster in hand, pop Fog Blade, then attack and win. Come on bro
You expect too much from Gage
Yeah, he didn't realize it until after the duel during the deck profiles. I almost didn't know what turn he was referring to until i saw this comment and remembered Beast King's other party trick.
2:34 Funny Farfa should mention that because (as of posting this) Mikanko is going to get a Secret Pack after Maintenance alongside Purrely and Rescue-ACE.
50:52 Insane Top Deck Mill
I have a feeling Memory and Fog Blade might get banned next. Those are too strong.
Not really much to say about Both Farfa and Gage’s decks this time.
Doug got absolutely crushed by the Abomination and Tearlament Quaeritis.
The use of Fire Emblem Fates music in this episode made me very happy. o7's to the 3DS Online servers.
You either think Tearlament is the crowning achievement of human civilization or want to personally light every single copy of them on fire and make MBT watch. There is absolutely no middle ground.
The middle ground is not playing modern Yugioh and not caring about them either way.
@@Celestia282but people don’t care about time wizard weirdos
I'm on the crowning achievement of human civilization
Tiaraments strongest
@@Celestia282 The downfall of YGO was started by the first people who bought new cards mainly because they felt said cards would be the next meta. Those whoevers trained Konami to chase money via powercreep over game health.
If we could purge this group of people entirely from every TCG community the hobby would be so much comfier.
@jshtng78 that happened literally the first set. People bought the starter decks because of staples, La Jinn and Summoned Skull.
And if you don't like that answer because muh nostalgia yugi Kaiba format batchest, the very first tournament pack is infamous for powercreep because it introduced Mechanicalchaser, which hit close to 200 bucks because it was plain better than everything else.
Time for the clash between Konami Employee, Professional Underdog, and Smart One, another good episode
It feels like Doug get destroyed every week but he is still like a mile ahead in wins.
It never ceases to amaze me how Gage consistently goes into all of the high roll packs even though he unlocks packs that are cracked on the low end.
To be fair if he's going for a go 2nd good stuff pile, aiming for a couple Bystial wasn't a bad idea. You'd hope to get at least one or maybe two if you're lucky from 10 packs, which would go nicely with the craft.
man, every week I fall in love with this series all over again, keep it up!
I think it’s safe to say Farfa will not be able to play the Shaddolls in the near future
Doug at the end feels like he is secretely irate with farfa and I love it
"how do you keep pulling cards from banned packs" says Doug with his nine kaijus lmao
Honestly, Gage's pile giving Shaddoll Tears an actual game was quite interesting to watch.
I believe twenty packs is fine when playing with two others since there are more bans and limits to go around. You can also probably ban the use of starter deck cards after the first banning, unless they pull copies of them from previous and future pack openings, to make the strategies more diverse and have more variation.
Don't know if mr. zeeff will see this but i think 15 packs was better since you were more likely to be able to make a new deck, seen from this series that everyone is kinda sticking to what they have since they simply are only able to pull 10 cards, 15 might help add more variety
35:00 Doug could have Special summoned Final Sigma, immediately targeted it with Fog blade for an unaffected 3k beater that cannot be targeted for attacks but can attack itself. Yes Gaige had an out in Abomination to pop fog blade etc, but it would have saved him for a little bit
To increase deck’s viability without leaving us with 2+ hours episodes, they could maybe introduce a pity system where you can exchange the fourth and higher copies of cards you pull with another from the pack ?
OVER AN HOUR?! Lets go!!!
Literally about to doublecheck the playlist to confirm if this is sarcasm or not
Edit: 9 episodes over 1 hour this season, prob sarcasm.
All throughout the episode, the top graveyard was covered by cam, and camera clutter seems to be an issue with three people on screen. I think a solution could be an overlay, but I'm not sure how it works, since it's live.
Yeah I loved them all reacting to a card being milled that we could not see
1:00:10 Lore accurate Eria saving her sister from the Shaddolls
It doesn't matter how many packs they pull. Gage was never giving up Lab until it got banned, and Farfa was never giving up Mathmech until it got hit and now he has Tearlaments. When they high roll into the strongest packs, you could give them 30 openings of other packs they wouldn't change their decks. Why would they? If you want more variety, they should institute bans more frequently to get them to shift strategies.
i love master saga so glad i found this channel really like your positivity Dzeeff
Oh they don't know about Dwayne Johnson in Farfa's deck.
The punts in this episode were unreal, on so many levels.
This episode is the biggest case for 15 packs. We need people playing more than one deck the whole season and you just can't get that
15 packs need to return I think...
Edit: so after a long break I finished the video. yeah, I think this season of Master Saga started as the one with the most potential but with episodes going on I feel it's kinda falling down? I think the main fault of this is the lack of packs, since the power level is THIS low in the episode before the last banlist
Wanted to throw out a banlist suggestion, since the power level has felt off this season.
I think it would be interesting for players get get 1 "grudge ban" against any deck they lose against at the end of each episode. They can ban any 1 card that was played in the deck that beat them that week, and these bans last until the player who issued the ban defeats the player whose card they banned. This means that when a deck goes 2-0 in a week, two cards will be banned from it temporarily, likely forcing the player to choose a new strategy next week.
Should that player goes 0-2 next week, all begrudged cards will be removed from the banlist, allowing them to play the deck that was strong enough to go 2-0 the prior week once more. If they go 1-1, they would get 1 card back, and 1 new ban on their current deck, and if they someone go 2-0 again they will be forced to make another deck once more. If a player had multiple grudge bans by one other player, losing to that player will still remove all bans against them.
I think this makes oppressive decks feel less bad to both play against and watch while still allowing players to use those oppressive decks multiple times per week before the real banlist. It also allows players who go 0-2 to comeback, while not punishing the total collection of the 2-0 players (winning is better in the long run, but winning will make the short term harder to win). Grudge bans probably shouldn't apply to the last episode, but it would be up to your guys if you want to remove them every banlist episode or do whatever.
It would be better to simplify things a little making the temporary ban last only 1 episode regardless, but overall a nice idea
Farfa going off and laughing about it is a highlight. Those draws and mills were incredible.
this series has made me learn to play around geonator transverser
PepeLaugh they didn't look at Farfa's decklist so they don't know about Nibiru
Farfa: "Ugh you are playing Pacifis again!"
also Farfa: "I am going to play the same deck for an eight time"
(PS: I am not actually hating, i just think its really funny)
Doug played harpy just as many times and Gage played lab pile more
13:17 Dude holy shit I was just thinking about this video last night
31:10
Obv Dzeeff didn't know he didn't get Parallel Exceed until he drew it with Thunderbird but I think Gage would've still been able to make Barbaros by using the timelords eff to draw 1 after linking into Beat Cop and getting to Parallel Exceed that way w/o risking losing Barbaros to Thunderbird
Moment when he could've summoned barbaros and kept bubble reef there
10:07 Judgment Dragon: am i a joke to you?
That wasn't originally a Structure deck Boss though.
Farfa pulling a farfa is the most YOU moment ever.
I think Zeef went too heavy on the bans and limits rules, because now no one has a competent strategy anymore and they're just playing with decks that are halfbaked. I guess that's supposed to be the allure to these duels but idk. I don't like seeing piles of nothing duel for 60 mins.
I think the amount of bans/limits are fine if they were doing the 15 secret packs instead of 10. They just aren't getting enough of a cardpool to make up ground.
@@PhoenixLance13 I agree. 10 packs sometimes just doesn't cut it and then you get the double dipping or even triple. I feel like you should you be put in a position where you get enough packs for a decent ratio of the archetype and that going back in wouldn't be worth it.
@@PhoenixLance13 yeah it's low card opening count, everyone get sorta unlucky or want high roll
These really brighten my day when I see them. I hope you will be able to get a new series going with MBT soon as well
Honestly given how neat yet not overpowered deskbots and vendreads are, I'd support them being opened again guaranteed next ep? Maybe gage can get the vernysylphs
Getting a Mikanko and a Purrly one day before Mikanko and Purrly secret pack drops. The terrible luck.
Gage and the tunel = true love
Suggestion : I think in next season u can make the reward into either craft/extra pulls. Like
2 wins : ur craft or extra 10 pulls
1 wins : sr craft or extra 5 packs
0 wins : 2 rare/common or extra 2 packs
Flip the 0 and 2 around and it's near perfection.
This video is a prime example of why music should sound like pot of greed
That Yugioh monster typing thing you guys were talking about, I think you might have been thinking about Falsebound Kingdom on the GCN. I think that had typing
There were a few. I know dark duel stories for Gameboy color had type advantage where it instantly destroyed a monster if it was its weakness. Forbidden memories for ps1 had a weird astrology type advantage
I swear to god they make each other duel worse somehow and it is amazing
Without MBT, reading comprehension drops to playground level
Its kinda sad next episode is banning and gage and dzeef hasnt played real decks since the previous banning. This is just masochist challange at this point, but i have an amazing idea for banning WILD WILD BANS, each player can name 2 cards that others might name, and if a card is named in WILD BANS and WILD WILD BANS its not banned if that player can eat a irl copy of that card (highest rarity possible) (must chew 30 times) I think this change fits really well with the saga tradition of making up shit every 5 ep
29:49 ah yes the golden rule,if it's not 100% accurate it's 50% accurate
Just a quick reminder that there's only one week before the next banning.
I hope they hit like mbt and the mekk-knights so we can watch Gage turn up with the actual starter deck
54:31 petition to use the zoom in of the bugging trap hole during the timer zoom in montage when there is slow playing afoot
I think instead of doing 15 packs every week like many others are saying, why not add like a "cheat ticket" system where using one lets you pull an additional 10 packs or something. Everyone starts with 3 and you can gain 1 if you lose 0-4 in a row or something. Makes it so that they have to be strategic with when they use it as they have only a limited number of them.
Why must Gage always take the bait packs? And please go back to 15 packs for each opening. Getting more chances to open key cards from each pack would go a long way
21:34 HAAAAANK! HAAAAAAAAANK! DONT PUT IN EVEN A MILLISECOND OF BABY SHARK THEYLL COPYRIGHT STIKE YOU! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!
Fog blade getting alot of love this episode
48:19- I'm dying of laughter 🤣🤣🤣🤣
When I saw that Farfa had Quaritis in the transverser column, and Doug had the right zones and enough material, I thought he was about to do something very funny... I guess in a way I was right. 😅
Ahhh the classic farfa fuck up. As soon as It was turn I was screaming ACTIVATE IT BEFORE YOU FLIP THEM.... I knew he wouldn't 🤣
Clockwork night with System down is a nasty combo in a deck I like to play on the rare occasion.
New Top Tier Line: “Every week is The Gas Leak Episode!”
Man I was so hyped to see vendreads
Whelp, ig Farfa needs another 10 packs to complete the rest of Vandread pieces
Damn Farfa getting it twisted. That fog blade was clutch though in game 3.
56:55 Long long Geehh!!!😂😂
The thunderbird thunderbirded who saw that coming
in Doug and Gages duel why didnt fog blade work?
did i miss something?
I love how cup of aces has just become pot of greed at this point
Master Saga Season 5 scoreboard
Doug 15-11
Farfa 13-13
Gage 11-15
Totally balanced
@@javsandarts as all things should be
Eid Mubarak guys. Hope you all are having a wonderful day
I know Gage knew there was something, but I think summoning MBT > Decode Talker into EMZ pointing at Anoyatillus > attack Tribe legitimately would've won the game there.
The fact Doug, the only person to bring a new deck, went 0-2… I'm just stunned
The moment he went into the wind up pack ik he screwed up as a wind up player myself
Damn really cool series Doug, going just as good as Progression right now 🙃
This is definitely one of the episodes of all time
Damn everyone had some rough pulls this week.
Gage basically pulled a Yusei, a bunch of cards basically at the bottom of the barrel or thrown out and manages to win with it regardless
Do not think I am not still salty about that Regulus ban. That was pulled post-banlist, and should not have been hit.
Did you know that zenmaines can be material for astraloud.
Wow Doug is so mad. Doesn't even look at farfas list
why is Farfa complaining about the others using day 1 cards when he has been using the same deck since he started his youtube channel.
Geez you guys are sometimes ridiculous with your criticisms. It's a joke, it's banter. Both Farfa and MBT have done this in previous saga seasons when 1st week cards are played. Both Dzeef and Gage even reciprocate the banter. Maybe I'm missing something, idk.
He's played shadolls just as often as Doug played harpies
Episode where
If it is not 100% chance, it is 50%. Thats a rule with every %.
Crush cards editing was so good this episode my god
Gods. That 2nd game hurt. He Had Game and misplayed HARD. MBT Better roast him in the reaction for Missing Game