Wow! I had just watched a video telling me that the Tesla wall connector was a total waste of money and I found this. So glad you posted this. Very professional and informative.
Thank you, Terry, for the video. My clothes dryer uses a 14-30 plug and it is in my garage. It will produce around 22 mph. Thanks again! UPDATE: I received it today and it is producing 27 mph.
You go to the Tesla Shop Online under charging - NEMA 2 adapters - and select the adapter that matches your dryer outlet. The standard adapter is in your mobile charger. You give it a hard pull to disconnect and push your new adapter in.
Man your just completely honest. Hats off to you. I just got a model 3 Standard range on Thursday, surgery Friday, could get outside to charge. With your vid, it is done. Thanks
Thank you so much. After watching several very long videos I was still confused and this cleared everything up. Thank you for starting at the beginning and walking us through this and it not taking you 30 minutes to do it!
Yes, thank you! Your first sentence spells out exactly what I've been trying to get answers on for the past few days with the upcoming delivery of my Tesla!
Good to note that the mobile connector that comes with the car is maxed at 32 amps. So a 40 amp breaker is fine if you are only using the mobile connector with your Tesla. Also, Model 3 Standard Range Plus can only take a max of 32 amps as well! Great video!
Matching the breaker to the max design pull of the plug type is a good safety rule, and is probably required by code. I’d still put in the 50A breaker in case an RV or something comes along (perhaps many years from now) with that kind of draw.
I used a 50amp breaker for my gen3 wall charger....the manual states you can use for 30amp, but I didn't see the point in going so low...I went with 50amp breaker
@@rishijagtap8593 been 2 years and haven’t had an issue…. You can use whatever breaker you want from 30 to 60…personally I think 50 was the best option for me.
My reason for getting the wall connector is so that I can charge my car outside of the garage since it is weatherproof. Previously I had my NEMA 14-50 inside and I would run the mobile connector with the garage door open. Now I can plug in anytime with car parked outside and the garage door closed.
Josh, I called my electrician after reading your post. My garage is pretty small and we use it for storage mostly. The wall connector will be close to my garage door, anyway. Makes sense to go with wall connector.
Thanks Terry, you explained it very very well and answered all my questions. The best Tesla wall charger 🔌 video on TH-cam so far. Thanks a bunch brotha
Everyone wants to get by with the 14-50 receptacle. If done safely and by code, there is little savings. Plug-in installs need a more expensive commercial grade outlet, the extra neutral wire and in most areas a gfci breaker. My extra cost to a customer that demands a plug-in will almost cover a wall unit. The install is cheaper, safer and allows for a higher output. Always go for a hardwired install.
Just another point --- there is a federal tax credit of 30% which covers the charger and installation so really the extra cost of installing the wall charger is about $350. As a spare mobile cable would set you back $280 (not that really needed) . Thanks for your video.
Standard Range + Model 3 can only charge up to 30 Miles per hour that is with a 40 Amp Breaker with the max output of 32 Amps. This is from the Tesla Website: "*Maximum charge rate for Model 3 Standard Range is 32A (7.7kW) - up to 30 miles of range per hour." Still pretty excited for delivery hopefully in two weeks! 2021 Model 3 SR+ White on White with Sport wheels. :)
Thanks for the feedback trying to see if the 2023 Tesla model 3 is for me or not. I guess now you have to pay for the mobile charger which is a joke. It should come with the car if you ask me. So many things I’m learning about Tesla that are upsetting. Try trading in your own vehicle at the Tesla dealer and see what the process is like but that’s another topic for you to mention. Lol
Thank You for your video. I have seen several on this subject of charging. However you gave a great, straight-forward, and practical presentation. Good Job bro!!
In the UK you can't get more than 13 amps at 240 volts out of a standard plug. Even three phase is limited to 32 amps 400 volts with the wall charger, yet in the US you can get 40amps at 240 volts with the mobile charger? This is crazy, way way better than the megre 3 miles an hour with the mobile charger in the UK. If you could get 33mph with a mobile charger in the uk not many would bother with the wall charger I think.
Nema 14-50 has 4 pings, Line1, Neutral, Line 2 and ground. The charger does not use the neutral. So tell the electrician to install a Nema 6-50 which has Line 1, Line 2 and ground. With one less conductor, the cable cost will be less, especially if it's a long run from your breaker panel to the plug.
I ordered a Tesla 3 RWD vehicle on April 21, 2022. It will arrive in September. Thank you for the explanation of home charging. It was very helpful. I don't drive long distances on a daily basis, so I will use the 120V connector that comes with my car for the first few months. If I need to have a 240V outlet installed in my garage, I will do so after Christmas. Also, there is a Supercharger 1.5 miles from my home if I take a long trip. BTW, LOVE your Swisstrax flooring. I'm looking into this flooring as I am remodeling and insulating my garage before my Tesla arrives. I live in the Chicago area.
Thanks for this, very helpful as I do research into buying my next car. Also “but I wanted more…” are some famous last words I’ve said to my wallet too….
Keep in mind also with the 14-50 plug; the 6-50 plug is an excellent option to charge at the same rate and the wire and plug itself are cheaper by almost half. This can add up depending on how long of a run you have to have from your breaker box. The tesla charger doesn't use the center neutral wire on the 14-50 anyway so it's kind of a waste unless you really need that type of specific plug (i.e. RV, dryer).
Great video Terry. Do you have solar panels installed on your house? How much is it to charge your Tesla at home per hour with a mobile connector vs the regular outlet.
Great video and I REALLY like the detail you go into to explain the connector that comes with the car and the 14-50 connector that you can get for $35 and instantly upgrade your setup (after getting the Nema 14-50 outlet and 50 amp breaker. I see the wall unit is faster but since my wife and I are retired our daily driving is much less I think the mobile connector should do fine for us.
The hardwired wall connector has a higher max output (48 vs 40 amps) and is a less expensive install. I do EVSE installs and a plug-in outlet will cost a customer $2-300 more because of the commercial grade outlet, extra neutral wire and if necessary a GFCI breaker. You need a good reason to want the plug-in application.
Great video!! I use mobile connector plugged into a Nema 14/50 with a 50 amp. This setup has worked for me since getting the Y in 11/21. The only difference now since UMC won’t be included soon individuals need to decide whether paying $200 for MC or 500 for wall charger.
Wondering why there is difference in charging speeds for model 3 and model 3 SR+ using HPWC. And second question is that true that the slower you charge tesla the better it is for battery longevity? If yes then it is better to stay with 120 V mobile charger if you don't need faster charging
Yeah, I initially thought there was a big gap with the wall connector, but I probably would at most use a nema 14-50, depending on how my battery drains
It is my understanding that the Gen 2 Wall Connector also can talk to a second wall connector on the same circuit, to charge two Teslas without overloading the circuit. Also, the Gen 1 Wall Connector could be installed on a 100A circuit, with even faster charge speed.
Anyone from Australia know if we have that Nema-14-50 thing here? Cos I know we have 240V running in our homes, not sure if makes any difference. Picking up my MY in 3 week!!
I would consider NeMA 6-50 outlet instead since it uses 1 less wire the car doesn't use anyway, so it is a waste of money. Mainly for longer cable runs the price difference can be substantial.
New subscriber. Best content I have seen for my needs. I am looking to install a 3rd Gen Wall Connect, but need the charge cord to be much longer. Have you seen any way to put a longer cord on the unit, or use a safe extension cord? This would be from the wall connect to the car, not an extension to the wall connect from a power source. Thank you.
Thank you so much for this video. You answered several of my questions about Tesla vehicles. One, the J1772 adapter. I didn't know you could charge a Tesla at other charge stations live EV Go. I do think it sucks that the 220V adapter doesn't come with every new Tesla. They do with the Chevrolet Bolt EV and Bolt EUV.
Something to note is that a wall outlet that is used for EV charging with a plugin charger must be on a GFCI breaker - per updated US building code. If you hardwire an EV charger with built in GFCI protection then you don't need a GFCI breaker. That can offset the premium for a hardwired charger, because some GFCI breakers are much more expanse that standard breakers (depending on which brand of panel you have installed).
The Code was changed but not all areas have adopted that change. Here in NC, it is not yet required. More importantly is the need to use a commercial grade receptacle.
Personally, I think the mobile connector is exactly all that 95% of people need. Major props to Tesla for that.
They no longer include it with the car. :(
@@Acontador13 yea, but still rather spend the $230 on the mobile than 450 on wall connector
One of the best explanations I’ve seen on this subject. Thanks so much!
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Wow! I had just watched a video telling me that the Tesla wall connector was a total waste of money and I found this. So glad you posted this. Very professional and informative.
Thank you, Terry, for the video. My clothes dryer uses a 14-30 plug and it is in my garage. It will produce around 22 mph. Thanks again! UPDATE: I received it today and it is producing 27 mph.
My dryer uses a 30 amp breaker.
You go to the Tesla Shop Online under charging - NEMA 2 adapters - and select the adapter that matches your dryer outlet. The standard adapter is in your mobile charger. You give it a hard pull to disconnect and push your new adapter in.
thats good to know , returning back my wall connector which i dont need , i think mobile connector is way enough to charge the rwd m3 quickly
Is it safe to use dryer outlet for charging ? I have nema 10-30 outlet
@@Ken-kb6yb Yes.
30 miles of charge per hour is all I need. Thanks so much for educating me on this. You just saved me some money!
Man your just completely honest. Hats off to you. I just got a model 3 Standard range on Thursday, surgery Friday, could get outside to charge. With your vid, it is done. Thanks
Thank you so much. After watching several very long videos I was still confused and this cleared everything up. Thank you for starting at the beginning and walking us through this and it not taking you 30 minutes to do it!
I’ve watched about 100 videos now and yours was the best, most informative video- thank you!!!
Terry taught me Adobe Creative Suite back in the day now teaching Tesla! You're the best, cheers
Very nicely explained. I did not know it could be that simple to charge the Tesla car without investing money, a DIY project.
Thank you sir
Yes, thank you! Your first sentence spells out exactly what I've been trying to get answers on for the past few days with the upcoming delivery of my Tesla!
“Hello and welcome to Terry’s Tesla.”
How was that helpful?
Terry must be a teacher. Crystal clear explanations
You are a fine, calm, thorough presenter. I really enjoyed this and came out the other side much smarter on charging choices. Thanks.
Good to note that the mobile connector that comes with the car is maxed at 32 amps. So a 40 amp breaker is fine if you are only using the mobile connector with your Tesla. Also, Model 3 Standard Range Plus can only take a max of 32 amps as well! Great video!
Matching the breaker to the max design pull of the plug type is a good safety rule, and is probably required by code. I’d still put in the 50A breaker in case an RV or something comes along (perhaps many years from now) with that kind of draw.
I used a 50amp breaker for my gen3 wall charger....the manual states you can use for 30amp, but I didn't see the point in going so low...I went with 50amp breaker
@@SylvesterPotter Hi Im planning on doing the same. Have there been any problems that occured by doing so?
@@rishijagtap8593 been 2 years and haven’t had an issue…. You can use whatever breaker you want from 30 to 60…personally I think 50 was the best option for me.
OUTSTANDING video: understandable, clear, concise. Well done, Terry!
i was confused about all the adapters, power, etc and that video explained it all to me so very well. Thank you so much!
My reason for getting the wall connector is so that I can charge my car outside of the garage since it is weatherproof.
Previously I had my NEMA 14-50 inside and I would run the mobile connector with the garage door open. Now I can plug in anytime with car parked outside and the garage door closed.
Josh, I called my electrician after reading your post. My garage is pretty small and we use it for storage mostly. The wall connector will be close to my garage door, anyway. Makes sense to go with wall connector.
Finally a video that clearly explains the differences. Thanks a lot!
Agreed thanks !
Oh yeah. The video that we all needed
This explained everything I had questions about. Very helpful. Thank you!
Thanks Terry, you explained it very very well and answered all my questions. The best Tesla wall charger 🔌 video on TH-cam so far. Thanks a bunch brotha
Everyone wants to get by with the 14-50 receptacle. If done safely and by code, there is little savings. Plug-in installs need a more expensive commercial grade outlet, the extra neutral wire and in most areas a gfci breaker. My extra cost to a customer that demands a plug-in will almost cover a wall unit. The install is cheaper, safer and allows for a higher output. Always go for a hardwired install.
Thank you for this. Super helpful in giving me better questions to ask my electrician before choosing which to install.
Just another point --- there is a federal tax credit of 30% which covers the charger and installation so really the extra cost of installing the wall charger is about $350. As a spare mobile cable would set you back $280 (not that really needed) . Thanks for your video.
Thank you for the info, now I know I want a wall charger for sure.
Standard Range + Model 3 can only charge up to 30 Miles per hour that is with a 40 Amp Breaker with the max output of 32 Amps.
This is from the Tesla Website:
"*Maximum charge rate for Model 3 Standard Range is 32A (7.7kW) - up to 30 miles of range per hour."
Still pretty excited for delivery hopefully in two weeks! 2021 Model 3 SR+ White on White with Sport wheels. :)
Like what you did with the garage and the foam boards Terry. Well done.
Thanks for the feedback trying to see if the 2023 Tesla model 3 is for me or not. I guess now you have to pay for the mobile charger which is a joke. It should come with the car if you ask me.
So many things I’m learning about Tesla that are upsetting. Try trading in your own vehicle at the Tesla dealer and see what the process is like but that’s another topic for you to mention. Lol
Thank You for your video. I have seen several on this subject of charging. However you gave a great, straight-forward, and practical presentation. Good Job bro!!
Thanks
Answered all the questions I spent months trying to get answers to. Thanks
Great Video!! That was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks so much!
Just the video I needed. Straight to the point & touched on everything perfectly. Great stuff!
In the UK you can't get more than 13 amps at 240 volts out of a standard plug. Even three phase is limited to 32 amps 400 volts with the wall charger, yet in the US you can get 40amps at 240 volts with the mobile charger? This is crazy, way way better than the megre 3 miles an hour with the mobile charger in the UK. If you could get 33mph with a mobile charger in the uk not many would bother with the wall charger I think.
Nema 14-50 has 4 pings, Line1, Neutral, Line 2 and ground. The charger does not use the neutral. So tell the electrician to install a Nema 6-50 which has Line 1, Line 2 and ground. With one less conductor, the cable cost will be less, especially if it's a long run from your breaker panel to the plug.
Sure you can do that, but it will not be code compliant, fail the inspection if it ever comes across, and would not be usable for other purposes
Got the tesla charger. Biggest reason is I have to charge mine outside and I can’t use my garage because it has kayaks, gym equipment etc.
Terry, nice video on the mobile charger comparison sir ! btw sweet garage ! #mancave !
Thanks
Excellent video, very informative. Straight and to the point. Looking forward to your future videos.
Thanks
Many thanks, Terry- just watched this video from Toronto, Canada. Keep it going.
This video answered all my questions. Thank you so much!
I ordered a Tesla 3 RWD vehicle on April 21, 2022. It will arrive in September. Thank you for the explanation of home charging. It was very helpful. I don't drive long distances on a daily basis, so I will use the 120V connector that comes with my car for the first few months. If I need to have a 240V outlet installed in my garage, I will do so after Christmas. Also, there is a Supercharger 1.5 miles from my home if I take a long trip. BTW, LOVE your Swisstrax flooring. I'm looking into this flooring as I am remodeling and insulating my garage before my Tesla arrives. I live in the Chicago area.
Sweet set up man! Love it.
Terry…. Awesome video. Just ordered my model Y and wall charger. Definitely gained much-needed insight. Thanks!!!!
I like how you just gave us the answer at the beginning 🙏
That garage flooring though 🔥
Thanks for this, very helpful as I do research into buying my next car. Also “but I wanted more…” are some famous last words I’ve said to my wallet too….
Thanks for this info. This is mighty helpful. I would have opted to buy a wall connector if I hadn't seen this. You saved some $$ right here..
Great video . I agree a dedicated circuit with the mobile connector is the way to go and least costly.
Agreed! I just like the Look of the wall charger
thank you for breaking it down for us
Thanks so much for this video Terry! Concise, user-friendly and helped me figure out the best option for my needs 😀!
Keep in mind also with the 14-50 plug; the 6-50 plug is an excellent option to charge at the same rate and the wire and plug itself are cheaper by almost half. This can add up depending on how long of a run you have to have from your breaker box. The tesla charger doesn't use the center neutral wire on the 14-50 anyway so it's kind of a waste unless you really need that type of specific plug (i.e. RV, dryer).
The Tesla 14-50 connector can also be used in campgrounds and RV parks. NEMA 14-50 is very common in these settings, 6-50 is not.
Great video Terry. Do you have solar panels installed on your house? How much is it to charge your Tesla at home per hour with a mobile connector vs the regular outlet.
I was about to say that doesn’t sound right but damn, you’re right. 316 vs 169 for 50ft. Makes no sense because it’s just one extra wire
I put a 60amp breaker in. charge at 48amps
Great video and I REALLY like the detail you go into to explain the connector that comes with the car and the 14-50 connector that you can get for $35 and instantly upgrade your setup (after getting the Nema 14-50 outlet and 50 amp breaker. I see the wall unit is faster but since my wife and I are retired our daily driving is much less I think the mobile connector should do fine for us.
Great info/video, thanks!
Great video. I had questions, you answered them. Thanks!
Great video! Very well explained. Thank you
Great info!! Simple and straight forward!
You are a god among men! Excellent video!!!
You the man Terry. Thanks.
I use the mobile connector with the 110 outlet, but I also have 220 outlet that I use for my welder, but for my needs I use the 110 most of the time.
BEST. EXPLANATION. EVER. 💯
The hardwired wall connector has a higher max output (48 vs 40 amps) and is a less expensive install. I do EVSE installs and a plug-in outlet will cost a customer $2-300 more because of the commercial grade outlet, extra neutral wire and if necessary a GFCI breaker. You need a good reason to want the plug-in application.
Great video with a great explanation.
This is such a great and informative video! Thank you
Excellent Video Bro. You explained a lot!!
Thanks!
i like this man! great video thanks
Like your floor mat. Do you have link for it
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Great video!! I use mobile connector plugged into a Nema 14/50 with a 50 amp. This setup has worked for me since getting the Y in 11/21. The only difference now since UMC won’t be included soon individuals need to decide whether paying $200 for MC or 500 for wall charger.
Tesla's won't charge at 50 AMPS though
Thank you, this helped me understand, finally. Subscribed 👍🏾
Wondering why there is difference in charging speeds for model 3 and model 3 SR+ using HPWC. And second question is that true that the slower you charge tesla the better it is for battery longevity? If yes then it is better to stay with 120 V mobile charger if you don't need faster charging
Awesome video . Great explanation
Great info for new owners straight to the point, thanks!
Good job, Thank you for great explanation!
Thank you! This is the Best explanation
Quick 220 connector is the best of both worlds.... charges much faster than 110 and is portable and can go with you wherever you go....
Yeah, I initially thought there was a big gap with the wall connector, but I probably would at most use a nema 14-50, depending on how my battery drains
It is my understanding that the Gen 2 Wall Connector also can talk to a second wall connector on the same circuit, to charge two Teslas without overloading the circuit. Also, the Gen 1 Wall Connector could be installed on a 100A circuit, with even faster charge speed.
Yes in a load sharing mode.
this video was a god send. thank you!!
Anyone from Australia know if we have that Nema-14-50 thing here? Cos I know we have 240V running in our homes, not sure if makes any difference. Picking up my MY in 3 week!!
great info, helped me out a lot. thanks
Great video! Thx! Getting my Y any day now!
Very Informative, thank you Terry!
Thanks
Very good vlog 👌, straight and simple
Nice vid man! I just need the nema 14-50 but man that wall connector looks too clean to pass up. 👍🏼
Very informative video! Just an fyi that the 14-50 adapter is $45 now. Grr 😠
Actually the Mobile Connector is no longer included with new cars. However, if you buy it for $200 it does include the NEMA 14-50 adapter again.
I would consider NeMA 6-50 outlet instead since it uses 1 less wire the car doesn't use anyway, so it is a waste of money. Mainly for longer cable runs the price difference can be substantial.
thanks for the info! Super useful
Thank you for this video :)
I get 6 miles per hour with the included connector. That being said I have the Tesla wall connector sitting beside me that I’ll install very soon!
Awesome review
New subscriber. Best content I have seen for my needs. I am looking to install a 3rd Gen Wall Connect, but need the charge cord to be much longer. Have you seen any way to put a longer cord on the unit, or use a safe extension cord? This would be from the wall connect to the car, not an extension to the wall connect from a power source. Thank you.
I’m only aware of this one www.evseadapters.com/products/tesla-extension-cord/
The 14-50 outlet installed in a garage or outside needs a GFIC breaker.
Thanks! Very clear.
Very informative, Thanks!
Thank you so much for this video. You answered several of my questions about Tesla vehicles. One, the J1772 adapter. I didn't know you could charge a Tesla at other charge stations live EV Go.
I do think it sucks that the 220V adapter doesn't come with every new Tesla. They do with the Chevrolet Bolt EV and Bolt EUV.
Then go drive a Bolt and buy some marshmallows too.
Something to note is that a wall outlet that is used for EV charging with a plugin charger must be on a GFCI breaker - per updated US building code.
If you hardwire an EV charger with built in GFCI protection then you don't need a GFCI breaker. That can offset the premium for a hardwired charger, because some GFCI breakers are much more expanse that standard breakers (depending on which brand of panel you have installed).
The Code was changed but not all areas have adopted that change. Here in NC, it is not yet required. More importantly is the need to use a commercial grade receptacle.
6-50 plug is better for home use with mobile charger. 40amp breaker is plenty
Don't forget that with the Wall Connector you can schedule your charging times for when local hydro rates are at a minimum thus even more savings $$
Very informative! Thank you for taking the time to explain.
I just ordered a Tesla and chose both options as in the wall charger and the mobile one. The mobile charging isn't free....damn it
A couple of months ago they stopped including it.
I have the Gen 3 Wall Connector and get 44 mpr with my Model S and 40 with my Model X
We’re getting 50 mpr on a 2022 Model 3
Awesome video. Very clear. Thanks!
Great video! Thanks