Ford F-150 - Stuck On Fast Idle / Hard Start When Hot
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- Come along with Eric O. and have a look at this 1994 Ford F-150 5.0 that won't come off a fast idle and is hard to restart when it is hot. We also get to play with the OBDI option of our new Actron CP9690 Elite Auto Scanner. Based on symptoms along this was a pretty easy one to diagnose to be honest with you but we still need to verify before blasting the parts cannon at it.
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I've got Parkinsons disease which makes it hard if not impossible to do some of the work I used to, which is one of the reasons I enjoy your videos so much. I can live vicariously through them. Thanks for that.
hi Mr Eric i love your show awesome, i also love how you and your Beautiful wife get along, you have a great family, i have a 1987 Nissan Hard body pickup truck d21 2.4 i
im having throttle body problems, not to many mechanics know how to fixed this Japanese engines i own this truck for 15 year is a nice little truck, im retired i Don't have money to buy a new one, this little truck got power for being automatic but is running ruff will like to fixed this problem, watt can you tell me about fixing this issued, thanks for your time.
I hope you are doing well Mr.L ! I like these videos and it is nice that Eric shares his knowledge!
You have parasites in your body eating you from the inside out. Won't be long before they eat your entire brain...do the research.
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I owe you one. I was throwing parts at my old Honda which had all the same problems. Running piss poor rich, wouldn't start hot, and high idle.Did this and all 3 problems disappeared. Thanks a million!
Thank you so very much for this video. I have a 1996 bronco with 5.0 . It started high idle , 1500 high . I couldn't get my hands on a scanner that would even power up when connected much less show a code . So I replaced the idle control valve no help.
I replaced the throttle position sensor no help ... then the mass air flow sensor no help .
Then watched your video... went back to the shop and disconnected the temp sensor and jumped the connector to closed circuit and bo-yow... purring like a kitten.
Thank you so much for your help.
Wow, obd 1 system still kicking. I had an old 1988 F-150, great truck, loved the interior layout and the body style of it. Bought it used at 75k, drove it until it had 150k or so, good ole 5.0 302. The straight six 4.9L was probably the best from that era, a legendary motor for sure.
I am not a Ford guy but I agree. The 4.9 was an outstanding engine.
You can tell it's an "old school" job when you say "cigarette lighter" instead of "12v power port."
Eric has some of the best diagnostic skills I've ever seen! Guy could fix a jet I believe!
What a classic. I miss the 90's. Great video as always Eric. 😎
I have an old OBDI F150 with fast idle. This video gave me some direction for troubleshooting. Thanks, Eric.
Hi Eric..greetings from the UK..loved your story about your son hiding all the nuts and bolts around the garage..lol... and I love watching you fix stuff. Reminds me of a story about when I was around 8/9 left to watch my dads garage while he went to the parts store. As I had been helping him all summer break, he left me and my dog in charge for about 20 mins ,unfortunately he had previously showed me how the sprayer worked and he even let me have a go on some cars from time to time. So being eager to keep busy I practised my paintwork skills by spraying the dog met silver. I got the biggest walloping and was sent to bed early. It took mum and dad hours using paint thinners to get it all off. To this day I blame him for showing me how the sprayer worked...:).I love your channel and wish I had been able to carry on with the garage when he passed away but was too young. Also hope you don't mind me saying this, but you do sound like Michael Keaton as Beetleguise..lol..its a good voice by the way. All the best from the UK...cheers Bill
I bought that Actron because of your reviews on it. I have an '89 GMC and a "13 Ford, and it works great on both of them! Thank you.
Gotta hand it to ya Mr. O, you the best dianostic savey mechanic I've ever seen. I like your style and admire your knowledge......
what a flashback
great work dr.o
You fixed my problem with a 1994 Ford Explorer. I was ready to take it to the shop. Great information and thanks for doing the video.
good to see you keeping up your skills on the old iron. these vehicles are still around. I worked with a younger tech who asked me " WHAT IS A DWELL METER?" when I was working on an older car with points. omg how far we have come. good ride cowboy ,good ride...
Another tool in the arsenal and one for me to consider. Love the older stuff with easy fixes. Thanks again Eric. The shops a lonely place without Vanessa, Hanna and Josh...although I think I heard a lift go up in the back ground.
Good info I'll remember that if my '95 F150 acts up. Thanks Eric!!
You know those Actron's are actually a really nice little scan tool for the $$$. Thanks for this old school OBD I diag video Eric!
I am blown away in the way you knew right off the bat. Is probably the sensor whatever the name it was. Amazing skill you have. A +
After replacing the TPS on my 1994 F250 5.0l, it started fine but the idle remained to high and the automatic trans wouldn’t shift out of first! Following your video, and replacing the IAC as well as the temp sensor, fixed the secondary problem and improved the trucks running wonderfully. THANK YOU for keeping TH-cam Great.
You're an excellent teacher Eric and I very much appreciate everything you do for us viewers. I sure have picked up a lot of "classic" moves from you that have helped me fix that damn old lady's "problem" lol from Canada buddy.
have a 85 bronco 5.8 4 bbl still drive daily had it 14 years now. just got a 07 town n country touring for 400 was hit by a deer found your channel with you working on the tpim when you found the bad grounds mine was 2 rotted pins in the tpim i used paper clips to replace the pins lol works fine...awsome channel you good work great mechanic thumbs up
Thanks for the videos Eric your such a good mechanic u work on any car no matter what kind it is and always get it running right again and fixed right
Thank God!!!!! For years I’ve had the hard to start when hot problem with my 1993 F150, 5.0!!! 2 garages in Colorado Springs couldn’t figure it out. Watched your video, spent $30 at O’Reilly’s, changed the sensor (after changing everything over the years) and for the first time in a decade it starts hot without burying the gas pedal!!!
Thank you soo much for this video. This is the problem in my 1987 bronco XLT ; most people talk around the fix(could be this, that) but you showed me how to fix it and the tools to use to check it & fix it! Amazon will get a sale from me for this tester. I have wanted something like this for 20yrs.. Please Keep up the Great .................Work best wishes Therin
my 9690 keeps my 94 Ranger running just fine. You can't beat this tool for OBD1 applications. Cool vid Mr. O.
I salvaged my 87 2.9L Ranger last year. Hated to see it go, but it was time. I remember OBD1 like it was yesterday. A service call I had one time for a 94 GMC P3500 7.4L RAN PIG RICH. Had to change plugs in the street! This was in L.A. finally got the vehicle going by jumpering the ECT Connector with a wire. It ran, with instructions to the driver to have his shop change the coolant sensor. Great Video!
First off I want to say that I you for the help. I like how you went into some great detail on what causes it. I have a 1996 Ford F-150 300 L6. It had the same problems and thanks to you I was able to fix it without an OBD 1 reader.
1996 should be OBD 2
Thanks for the video. I recently purchased this tool on your recommendation! Yes the tool has limitations however it works just fine for I am doing with it, Reading codes fuel trims 02 activity. I think the tool is good , screen is easy to read ,buttons easy to operate ,overall a good addition to my toolbox. Thanks Dr. O !!!!
Ain't nothin like good ol XP when doin diags. I was born in 1991 lol so any tips and pointers from older vehicles is a big help 👍
It always amazes me how quickly you recognize a diagnosis based on a few obscure symptoms. Experience counts for a lot, in old cars.
Excuse me Gentlemens I got a question for you and Mr.O I know you guys had a lot experience about cars, I got a 95 buick riviera supercharged I replaced TPS and Air Flow Meter Sensor and my rpm goes crazy high after star up so I took both sensor out and put the old ones back and still my rpm they are high but not to much so I decide to unplug the TPS and the rpm still the same so I unplug the IAC valve and my goes down little be so do you guys think my IAC valve it's bad? Thanks in advance and hope fully you guys understand me have a good day
@@homeroaguilar6163 The symptoms sound a lot like a vacuum leak, which would be easy to verify with a scan tool and a few basic tests. Unfortunately there is broad variance in aftermarket MAF sensors and your replacement sensor could be part of the problem. Before replacing any more parts I'd try to get access to a scan tool with live data for basic diagnostics. Failing that, and before replacing any more parts I'd get pro advice. Professional diagnostics are often valuable and relatively inexpensive compared to the parts swapping game.
@@spelunkerd Thank you sir I appreciate it you answer I try one place already but that said they can't check the car cause they don't have a scanner to check the 12 pin data connector on GM cars they said it's the obd1.5 but I will take to another shop thank you sir for you time and answer
Not sure why but I cannot stop watching your videos!
Definitely buying one of those for my 93 Silverado
Sweet iv been looking for a cheap obd1 tool for my 94 jeep thanks! And keep up the great work. Don't give in to the typical tool review videos, the best tool review videos r real of world use.
Finally had to retire the old Actron 9690 when I got rid of my old truck and got a newer one and needed to view individual wheel speed sensors. But I kept it around cause you just never know.. Thanks for a great video.
Had a VERY similar issue with an '06 Chevy HHR. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the video,Eric good to see that Old Ford is still chugging along. Maybe in a few more years you could put in the third engine and keep it going.
Nice little tool. Quick and tidy diagnosis Dr. Thanks!
In and out 1 2 BBQ!
I was about to go to bed and your video popped up on my YT notifications. Must watch and like. I'll sleep in 20 minutes.
Darth Volvo me too
Your videos continue to impress me. I just watched your rusted fuel line repair vid and I have a similar issue with my niece's car. So I am going for the you can do it/I can do it thing, though I will tell you I thought a good long while about a 4 hour drive to your shop after being turned away by the locals.....
great no BS channel - makes me want to get back into wrenching
Love the old truck. Nice video Eric.
Hi Eric. Back in 86 I bought a new Ranger. It was the first year for port fuel injection 2.9. The S10 still had a carb and went to the TB fuel injection in 87. Where Ford was ahead on the FI game at that time I had to have it for that reason and to experiment/learn on before the customer ones came in. Where their was no data stream on those until the early 90's as you showed it was all hands on meter/scope tests for diagnosing issues. That was more time intense did like the challenges to be diagnosed/fixed right the first time! Their KOEO and KOER scanner tests were kinda helpful but most times not. Don't know if you worked on a few of them yet, new to your channel. A quick tale from back then. Had one guy who got a diagnosis/estimate from me and one from another shop. Totally different repairs listed between the 2. He asked who is right here. Told him to chose who he wishes. Still a great customer, I can picture you getting that on occasion too. Semi retired now, still have that Ranger in great cond. Very nice video's and work you do, wont leave such a long comment next time. Had to chime in on this one.
Good video, very helpful. Nothing like a good ole ford f-truck.
Thanks alot, keep up the good detailed videos.
Years and years ago my OBD scan tool for my 1993 Taurus SHO was to jam a paper clip in the underhood connector to make it flash out the codes on the CEL. Ah memories.
I have a '95 F150 5.8 so I enjoyed this one. Thanks!
took care of my problem,,,,i had the exact same symptoms,,,,,,,,you rock
Had same issue on a 96 f150 5.0 and you nailed my problem i jumped harness and truck started normal so i replaced sensor thanks so much for your video!!!
memory lane served you well with the intuitions, im almost willing to bet your diagnoses was completed/prescription in order before the truck even rolled in the shop lol surprised you don't have an old MT2500 dust collector on the shelf. enjoyed as always
You always bail me out, I'm having a fast idle problem on the same truck. Haven't shopped for an OBD1 scanner but since I have three older buggies here, now I will. Thx muchly!
Hi Eric a good trick for keeping the coolant in the system is put a small plastic bag in the radiator filler neck then put the cap on tight this covers the expansion tank check valve in the cap. When you remove the sensor or fitting a small amount will come out then a vacuum is created in the system & coolant stops flowing........Just dont forget to remove the bag or you will have a 50 psi cooling system pressure test.....take it from me that doesn't end well OPPS!!!!!!!!
Lol good tip :D
HAHAHA! My luck I'd forget the thing was in there, then romp it to the boards on the main road here. BANG! :D
i loosen or pull the cap, squeeze the upper rad hose gently, the fluid runs back into overflow can, then clamp the overflow hose, tighten cap, release upper hose. it now has a slight vaccum. on old iron chevys, not a drop is leaked :)
nz kgb That's a great tip, thanks! :-)
Great video and a sweet ole Ford.
Great video. I have a '93 F150 with 298,000 miles on it. Don't get to see too many diagnosis and repair videos on these old trucks anymore!
good old trucks for sure
Yep, I sure wish I could see more videos about these old F150s. Would help me keep up with my 1995 XLT 4x4. Damm!! 298000? Have 69xxx on mine!
Full disclosure: I am on my 2nd drivetrain (engine and trans).
I have 175,500 on my '96 F150 4.9 I6 4x4 with the 'Mazda' 5-Speed Manual. Looking forward to another 50,000 over the next 8 years or so (I don't drive a lot). Keep 'em between the ditches!!!
Han Skinslo
You can't kill the ol 4.9. Had an 89 f150 and beat the crap outta that thing. Didn't win any races, but that sum b!tch would pull a train.
The ol 4.9 was the only other inline 6, that was better that the Jeep 4.0 A true 500k mile engine. Thank the EPA for killing the 4.9 off. EPA will be taken apart by yours truly. 😎
Why thank you Eric! I have a 1992 f 150 with the 5.0 and it will stick in high idle, never thought of the water temp.
MAF or water temp sensor
Thanks for all the knowledge, it surely helps to listen to a Pro.
1994 truck: quick check with simple OBD1 scanner and basic info, $20 sensor, 5 minute swap out, job done.
2017 truck: check with $2000 OBD2 scanner, graphing out CANBUS traffic for half an hour to find anomaly, discover $300 module in right rear door is where the temp sensor goes to, replacement module only from dealership and $100 to program it to the car.
The march of technology. :)
true, everything is chock full of magic modules and useless garbage.
the only reliable vehicles I've owned had carburetors, go figure ;)
Old school works =K.I.S.S.!
Old School Eric!
Great Video, Eric. I would like to see more Ford Repair Videos, Please !
You just reminded me that I have an EEC-IV adaptor with my old Autoxray scanner! Wish I could hook it up to the Autel, but the adaptor plugs into the top of the old one, like the Actron (like an old computer TV screen with the 2 locking nuts).
I don't recall having that many PIDs last time I was in our '86 Grand Marquis - I remember seeing codes, and the KOEO/KOER tests. Been a long, long time - probably over 10 years now. Haven't changed ANY sensors in that car in the 14.5 years / 170k miles we've owned it - time for some tests, lol! She runs great, so I live by the old adage, " If it ain't broke, don't fix it". :D
Glad you posted this. I was brushing up yesterday on Paul's premium site on testing VR sensors, and today I get a refresher from you on thermistors. Trying to make this stuff stick, and it finally is, mostly. Tough learning as you age - not as easy as it was 26 years ago when I was in high school, lol. Thanks for the refresher!
I find I forget more than I know and it is a struggle sometime. I just say never remember any thing you can look up :D
That's a great point! Yeah, it's frightening some of the things I've forgotten over the years. As long as I never leave anything loose, I suppose it's all good. :)
I know where I'll be coming for my car repair questions 😉 well, after my dad of course, he's a retired mechanic 😊 Nice Job Eric O.
HAha L@@K at you all up trollin' on the SMA channel! Lol nice to see you here Vivian :-)
EEC-1 such a marvel , ford was very proud of it, my 91 has the same problem, its a 4.9, with 337K on it , and the poor thing was beat to death before it became mine
owner fine ford better Idear ,1990 4.9,f150 ,just solved all issues ,from long neglect ,from codes to
analysis it has been long. finally ,bad new part ,eng ,temp sens.. bad ,new air idle part ,...new ,relay
junk yard ,fomoco,new eec ,repaired ,all wire loom too injectors ,shorts ,new/repaired vac lines ,cracks
leaks ,repaired egr ,vac valve ,new injectors upgrade , rebuilt distributor ,eradic weak sprk ,ect.
finally ,runs like top.,All else checked .fuel press ,compress test ,;leakdown... circuit ID ect ect.
Hasent had such good treatment since grandpa .
one should never complain about a ringing phone when in business just means more $$$ coming in. I've never been to fond of those cheaper scanners but that one impressed me, I may have to pick one up for the grab n go bag.
Nice diagnosis Eric.
I have a similar scanner. It's a BOSCH 1350 and looks very similar to that scanner. The connection is not removable and only does OBD2. But it has the ability to pull OBD2, SRS and ABS codes and pids. It was very usefull to me when the ABS light came on my Cobalt. I used it to pull the C0050 code (R.R. WSS). I did some diagnosis and found the sensor to be bad. I replaced the hub as the WSS is built into the hub assembly. That scanner saved me $100+ for diagnosis and labor as I did everything.
MAN! Another ford that made it trough cash for clunkers! Love those old trucks! Have a great one!
showin ur age there lol
That's an "old" truck? :)
23 years old!
my daily is an 86 ford 5.0 with 140k to replace my last 86 5.0 daily with 350k.
Fantastic video! Keep it up!
A trick : you can watch movies on flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching lots of of movies lately.
@Ty Alejandro Yup, have been watching on Flixzone} for years myself :)
great video I think you solved my very hard to figure out problem. I will let you know of it fixed it.
THANK YOU for this a very informative video and well made......It sure helped me target on my problem to fix on my 1993 F150.... I like the Idea of the "CP9690 Elite Auto Scanner."...
Nice job. That truck reminds me of my Dad's 85 F-250. It had the 5.0 EFI with the EEC-IV computer. The interface connector for it was in front on the passenger side and you could hook a trouble light to it and it would flash trouble codes. I think they had a "scanner" for them, star or something like that.
Thanks for this video, gonna help me out on my 94 Ford 150.
Great Diagnosis Video.
Spitting facts friend.. for sure
Hey Eric, what you demonstrate quite successfully is the value of experience. Some of your diagnostic computers seem to already be on their way to 'expert systems' that look at the data, find anomalies and suggest 'fixes.' The next step will be for the technician to input the make, model and year and the 'symptoms,' have the device examine a database of known issues, compare the live data to known 'good' outputs and suggest where the problem lies and how to confirm the diagnosis and make the fix. It's come a long way from the 'swap and swindle' shops of the 'good ole' days.
Oh man I am sure that the tools will head at that direction soon enough.
Great video. I still have my 91 f150, use it strickly for scrap truck, everytime it drives it gets a little lighter.
Nice to see the EEC-IV work! I'm tooling around with a 1994 full sized Bronco myself. Very sweet truck. Used to have an 89' Bronco II that had a blown coolant temp sensor with the opposite problem. It always reported to the computer that the temp was maxed! The BWD one from the parts house was also DOA. Wound up going to U Pull and getting one off a Ford Limo Town car!
BWD that was DOA! NOoooooo haha
Broke When Delivered ... BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA! That was friggin great!
I had a very similar problem with a VW Squareback. Those had an early form of electronic fuel injection and mine started to run like the choke was stuck on, like this truck the idle was fast, and it was burning WAY too much gas. I figured out it was the temperature sensor. Well, that sensor was $80, that was a LOT of money back in the late 70's, plus it would have taken a couple of weeks to get. Now I knew what the resistance of the sensor was when the engine was hot, so I went down to Radio Shack, bought a 2 pack of resistors for 18 cents, bypassed the sensor with one of them, and then the car ran like the choke was stuck open. A little slow to start when cold, but otherwise fine. I never did replace the sensor.
This worked for my 94 e150 thanks!
Literally just thinking to myself "man I could really use an SMA video right now" and bam, youtube notification pops up! :D
TheForcedinductn Haha, It was about 515am when my alarm went off. Usually I get the ole SMA video notification at 5am ish. Next thing I know bam, I get the notification at 530am. He was a little late this morning but came through !
Haha, glad I'm not the only one :D I think we'll let him slide on the 15 minutes ;)
I like the new scan tool 🔧
Thanks for the video.
ordering that scan tool!! I have three old Ford trucks with 4.9's OBD1. Will come in handy..
Nice Eric O Easy test showing the coolant sensor went bad by showing the -40 to 254 testing the circuit for integrity @SouthMainAutoRepairLLC
thanks, those problems have been bothering me for a while now
Just the video I needed. My son has been having problems with his F250 with the 4.9L engine stalling and getting poor gas mileage. He has replaced most everything. I am going to order one of the Actron CP9690 scanners using your link and see if this or the MAF sensor is causing the stall after the truck is warmed up. It has left him stranded twice, once a couple of years ago and last week.
yes..finally..
I been need one of those...
Great video. Had the same issue on my '95 Z28 when I brought it out of storage this spring. Found that the Coolant Sensor was reading 40 below (was 60 outside). I agree with what you said about the ECM's not having the logic to ignore faulty sensors on these "older" vehicles. When I (finally) got the car started it ran like crap but idled -- do you think the ECM would detect the car was about to overheat and turn on a cooling fan? NOPE! It thought is was still 40 below when the car was about to go into nuclear reactor core breech. Could have been bad news if I walked away and let the car idle for a bit!
Great job !
This was a great video, I have a 96F150 with over 2 hundred K on the original motor. I'm a poor boy, no way my truck is going to the Crusher, just going to keep her going for as long as possible. God willing. :-)
Great logic. Had an 89 GMC 5.7 TBI that did the same only when hot, started normal. Rich/misfire when cold. Apparently not the temp sensor as I replaced it with same results. Might resort to that scan tool for more data.
I had a '94 Ranger with...issues lol. But it was OBD1 and I remember having to use an OBD1 scanner. After I finally got rid of that nightmare (literally ended up just signing the title to the first person that could haul it away. No cash changed hands) I swore up and down that every vehicle from now on MUST have OBD2 lol.
I love that actron scanner because can see actual temp and sensor temp to computer. That will tell you if the temp switch is bad or not on the obd1 Fords.
This is why we love old iron , most of the new makes that pass through your shop is in early stages of demise due to rust and corrosion . See if any new vehicles last this long . If it ain't broken , don't replace it !
Another fine bwd part just saying good job EO. JB🐴
The Actron elite autoscanner Reminds me Of My Older Bosch Handheld Scanner Eric O @3:55 @SouthMainAutoRepairLLC
you are the man...thanks.
I happened to see the 1994 F150 repair of the temp sensor problem. 2 days later my '96 F150 exhibited the same symptom. I replaced the coolant sensor and it worked! Just wanted you know how much I appreciate your help!
Looks like a good diy tool, just enough info without going broke or needing an automotive electronics degree.
James Zivny:yes my thoughts exactly. Those more complex scanners
are very costly, but yes the
Actron is quite ✋ for the
DIY'r.
BINGO high idle on my 90 bronco finally fixed .
Hi Eric, Love you videos , watch and thumbs up them all the time. This video really got my attention as I drive a 1989 F150 300 6 cylinder 5 speed and I've had a similar issue as the pickup in your video, that is, idle fluctuates from about 1100-1450 back and forth. So far I've replaced the coolant temp sensor, the IAC, and the TPS. also removed, cleaned , checked the EGR, smoke tested for vacuum leaks and the symptoms stayed the same. Sooo, I bit the bullet and bought the Actron 9690 hoping to access all the data that you accessed BUT of course it doesn't have the pages or at least I can't access the pages that you go to in this video that show sensor data. I wrote down the steps you took and tried several times but the information just won't come up on the screen. If you know of something that will help to access the sensor data for my truck please let me/us know. My 9690 seems to have current software, burn date is 03/12/19 and the SW ID is 0b0b. Thank you in advance.
This video kinda reminds me of the blue f150 flareside you did a video on a while back Eric O with the 5.0 @SouthMainAutoRepairLLC
Very nice.